Worlds apart

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1. travellerev 1

   1 September 2011 at 12:30 pm

   Your kidding!!!! ROFL
2. aerobubble 2

   1 September 2011 at 12:34 pm

   TV clip…
   cut to worker leaving large factory premises, looks
   around 1970, interviewer asks them, create much
   wealth today? Worker cites ACT Brash propaganda about
   unproductivity in 30 years time how bad its going to get.
   cuts to the same factory, empty, covered in graffiti,
   clearly taken recently.
   and then to the same worker thirty years older
   sitting on an Australia beach
   leaving us guessing how productive he has been for
   the thirty years interim.

   How much we lost
   by not keeping up with the regulatory framework
   of our competitors, no CGT, no GST off fresh food,
   books, and baby stuff, no tax free threshold, no
   deposit guarentee on bank accounts.

   Why? Why has NZ fallen so far so fast?

   Could it be another regulatory change?
   The loss of a forward, long term, looking upper
   chamber, that stops rushed legislation.

   Now the secret is out of the bag, why would you
   invest for the long term in NZ when its patently
   obvious the bottlenext to growth is its
   shallow hollow parliament.
   • Draco T Bastard 2.1

     1 September 2011 at 12:41 pm

     The loss of a forward, long term, looking upper chamber, that stops rushed legislation.

     Why do people continue with the stupid belief? An Upper House in government makes government worse. You just have to look at the farce in the US to see that.
     • tc 2.1.1

       1 September 2011 at 1:48 pm

       Works in OZ where the greens/democrats hold the balance and the electorate keeps it that way, half their senate is up every general election.

       US voters chose to give the upper house back to the republicans but then they voted for Reagan and George doublyah twice in enough numbers so like NZ is hardly an electorate that knows what’s good for it and also has a very biased media.
       • KJT 2.1.1.1

         1 September 2011 at 2:08 pm

         You only have to look at the prosperity and success of Switzerland to see what the best system would be. Real Democracy!
         • aerobubble 2.1.1.1.1

           2 September 2011 at 1:32 pm

           Yes. I agree. Swiss democracy would be far preferable. But some extra
           oversight in parliament, slowing the process makes legistlators more
           inclided to take their job more seriously. At the moment parliamentarians
           know when they make a mistake they will quickly amend their mistakes.
           This leads to them ignoring the hard problems, like growing a manager
           class that doesn’t have it so easy.
     • Jum 2.1.2

       1 September 2011 at 8:49 pm

       Draco T Bastard

       Simple, bastard, a Youth Upper Parliament – it’s their future they’re dealing with. At least if and when things go wrong we can blame them! It is so the other way at present…
3. Tangled up in blue 3

   1 September 2011 at 12:37 pm

   If it wasn’t for the spelling mistake that would be perfect.
   • Sam 3.1

     4 September 2011 at 9:26 pm

     Another example of uneducated labourites thinking that they can score points over trivia! That is why Labour will be consigned to a question in “trivial pursuit”:
     question – why is Phil Goff leading Labour to oblivion?
     answer- because hs caucus is tO weak to kick him out!
4. Treetop 4

   1 September 2011 at 12:51 pm

   Is this a beauty contest? Pig vs Farrar
5. Policy Parrot 5

   1 September 2011 at 12:53 pm

   yeah I think he’s been a capitalist a lot longer than that.
6. bigbruv 6

   1 September 2011 at 1:00 pm

   Is it the Chris Carter award for serial troughing and stealing from the tax payer?

   Seriously, how can any of you defend the useless United Nations when they are happy to offer jobs to low life’s like Clark and Carter?
   • The Voice of Reason 6.1

     1 September 2011 at 1:05 pm

     Yeah, why aren’t they offering you a job, BB? Something to do with your fundamental dishonesty perhaps?  Your moral, political and financial bankruptcy, maybe?
      
     Like it or not HC has got the highest diplomatic post ever held by a kiwi because she is bloody good at what she does. I reserve my judgement on CC’s appointment, though.
   • ianmac 6.2

     1 September 2011 at 1:44 pm

     So so predictable. Boring Big Bruiser!
     • Bored 6.2.1

       1 September 2011 at 6:33 pm

       Oi Macker, he is not boring, he is far LESS interesting than that.
   • KJT 6.3

     1 September 2011 at 2:10 pm

     How can you defend a national party that is intent on acting as puppets for those who intend to steal billions from the tax payers of New Zealand??
     • Sam 6.3.1

       4 September 2011 at 9:29 pm

       It was Clark and Cullen who stole taxpayer’s money to make them “feel good”.
       They raided the treasury to fund pooftas and no hopers.
       • lprent 6.3.1.1

         4 September 2011 at 10:50 pm

         You mean that they really couldn’t be bothered with irredeemably stupid bigots like yourself? I wonder why…

         In fact I don’t even think that the Nats would have you. Looks like you’re restricted to either Act or the skinheads. Better go with Act – the entrance standards are lower.
   • Ianupnorth 6.4

     2 September 2011 at 3:02 pm

     Could be because they are actually effective, unlike the current government.
      
7. bigbruv 7

   1 September 2011 at 1:09 pm

   Yeah, she is good at breaking the law, great at changing the law to make her crimes legal and even better at telling blatant lies.

   In other words she is perfect for the corrupt United Nations.

   Oh…and there is nothing wrong with my political morals Voice, I am not the one who defends corrupt unions, I am not the one who makes excuses for the corrupt Labour party and the corrupt government of Helen Clark. I am not the one who defends tax cheats like Matt McCarten.

   Check your own morals Voice.
   • KJT 7.1

     1 September 2011 at 2:11 pm

     A dead ringer for Key, Joyce and Double Dipton then?
     • Craig Glen Eden 7.1.1

       1 September 2011 at 4:21 pm

       Do you think that if you say the word corrupt enough big bruv that it makes you………….morally right with your political view. Capitalism just in case you haven’t notice is totally corrupt. Herd of that scripture the love of money is the root of all evil. So before you start throwing shit at the likes of HC or the Unions (which you obviously no nothing about) maybe just maybe you might want to take a look at how John the con has made (so called) his money. Who is it the bows at the alter of money again ?

       Earth to bigbruv wake up.
       • bigbruv 7.1.1.1

         1 September 2011 at 6:28 pm

         I know all about unions Craig, they dont pay taxes.
         • Bored 7.1.1.1.1

           1 September 2011 at 6:34 pm

           In which case, without evidence to substantiate you know fuck all.
           • Bazar 7.1.1.1.1.1

             1 September 2011 at 10:36 pm

             Since i’d hate for ignorance to go uncorrected…

             http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/4418030/Union-asked-to-explain-36k-debt
             • Colonial Viper …

               4 September 2011 at 10:56 pm

               Westpac must pay $961M in back taxes

               http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/2944357/IRD-wins-against-Westpac

               Hey, we can go toe to toe on this all night and see who the real tax bludgers are.

               Big money and Corporate NZ or unions.

               What do you think???
         • bbfloyd 7.1.1.1.2

           2 September 2011 at 12:16 pm

           little bruvvv…. i think it’s time you took stock, and did something about that deathgrip you’ve got your extremities in… it seems to be having a detrimental effect on your ability to recognise the obvious flaw in your logic….

           there isn’t any… your clogging up the comments column with vile diatribe is not the therapy you seem to believe it is… not for you, and certainly not for your victims… you obviously have problems that need urgent attention…. that is what psychiatrists are for….. despite what the voices tell you, this isn’t the place to find a cure for what ails you…

           seriously, before it’s too late…. get some help dude….
8. framu 8

   1 September 2011 at 2:00 pm

   yet you wont pay your debts?
9. Irascible 9

   1 September 2011 at 3:31 pm

   This article from The Australian gives some good arguments why people like BB think that they’re owed everything under the NACT govt of Key & Deipton. He is but one of the selfish generation that aspires to taking all and paying for nothing.
   http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/opinion/its-all-about-me-the-rise-and-rise-of-individualism/story-e6frg9jx-1226126824512
   • aerobubble 9.1

     2 September 2011 at 2:06 pm

     For want of a horse the kingdom was lost. People had to work hard to achieve their homes,
     the luxuries in their homes. But with the advent of Thatcherism and cheap high density fuel,
     people got the luxuries earlier and easier. Even easier when they borrowed to buy a home in
     a bubbling market. However, this masters of the universe personality, take no prisoners ethos,
     zombie free market visionaries, will have lesser value to the winners in the next 30 years,
     and after oil it will be back to quality.
10. tc 10

    1 September 2011 at 4:44 pm

    I can see the altar BB kneels down and prays at with cute pic’s of Sideshow, Brashy and Blinglish maybe even Wodney’s still there just for old times sake…..sycophants are us! like frogs in water being heated they will not realise they’re being boiled alive as the spin and rhetoric is oh so lovely.
11. randal 11

    1 September 2011 at 4:58 pm

    he is more a fawning capitalist sychophant, a running dog.
    • Bored 11.1

      1 September 2011 at 6:34 pm

      Try lickspittle……
12. renderer 12

    1 September 2011 at 6:45 pm

    Well blow me down KiwiBlog takes the Standard to the cleaners.
    http://openparachute.wordpress.com
    • Bored 12.1

      1 September 2011 at 6:48 pm

      Zombies and vampires proliferate…we live amongst a vast cloud of darkness, woe is us…..
    • The Voice of Reason 12.2

      1 September 2011 at 7:20 pm

      Check the page views, doofus. Standard readers actually hang around on the site, which is an indication of quality blogging.
      • renderer 12.2.1

        1 September 2011 at 8:31 pm

        The “hanging around the site” is not really an indication of the “quality” but more the anticipation of being slagged off for a contrary view, or checking to see who else has. The way the pages are set up on a site can also skew the numbers
        • The Voice of Reason 12.2.1.1

          1 September 2011 at 8:41 pm

          Nope. Page views indicate engagement with the site’s home page and, importantly, click throughs to other pages. At 2.2 page views on average, the Standard is way ahead of Kiwiblog and really should be charging more for its advertising space. It really looks as if readers go to KB, see what’s on offer and leave (presumably holding their noses).
           
           
        • Jum 12.2.1.2

          1 September 2011 at 9:13 pm

          renderer
          You really must stay off kiwiblog; boiling fat down is obviously injurious to your mental health.

          This site provides another viewpoint to politics other than the paper rags purporting to be the eyes and ears for the people. You may be happy with fifth rate commentary in the herald or from the donkey’s mouth; I am not.

          There are many good blogs to check out apart from The Standard. However, The Standard is a regular reporter of the ‘other point of view’ which New Zealanders don’t receive from the fairfax media. Every day I know that whatever NActU are spouting I can get another view of it on The Standard, and The Standard is more accurate..

          Long live the Standard. At least it has standards; kiwiblog never did – it is a sewer run by rats for the benefit of stinking moneytraders and money launderers.
          • mik e 12.2.1.2.1

            1 September 2011 at 9:55 pm

            At least the standard allows opposing point of views .not just right wing spew.
            • Vicky32 12.2.1.2.1.1

              2 September 2011 at 6:56 pm

              At least the standard allows opposing point of views

              Not so much really…
              Or, to a very limited extent! (Especially as  some favoured people choose to define views that don’t match theirs as “right wing”… )

              [lprent: I suspect that you’re talking at cross purposes and since it involves how the site is run….

              I think that there is a big difference from my perspective between what moderators will not tolerate (trolling, blatant off-topic jacking, excessive link-whoring, and the like) and what commentators will object to with other commentators.

              We will often intervene harshly in the former to ensure that it doesn’t gain too much of a foothold and make the comments boring to read.

              We seldom intervene in the latter unless we think that it is getting a bit over heated. Or where we see people making comments that are simply abusive and where there is no particular point made. That is the point of the robust statement in the policy – you are reasonably free to argue and disagree with each other.

              This isn’t a site where people tend to be particularly nice to each other. It is a place to discuss and argue freely. But just as importantly it is a place where you may not bore the moderators with the repetitively mindless slogans and outright waffle like that the trolls bring.

              After all we have to read more of the comments than anyone else does – so we set the minimum standard as the worst that we can be bothered to put up with. But we’re a bit like cats in the sun – a lazy lot until either food or pests appear. Whereapon the activity has a tendency to be swift and lethal (unless we start playing with the food/pests).

              This leads to a reasonable degree of freedom provided comments stay away from things that irritate moderators and attract their attention. Mere bickering between commentators usually doesn’t attract our attention unless it is either amusing (a unusual event) or starts getting boring and repetitive. ]
    • Deadly_NZ 12.3

      2 September 2011 at 7:59 am

      Ahhhh but they only count visits, not the content. And Kiwiblog always leaves me wanting a shower when ever I visit it. That is if I am not banned for calling DPF a poison lying dwarf.
    • lprent 12.4

      2 September 2011 at 3:48 pm

      First time for months that our page views have been less than KB’s. I guess he had a faster jump out of winter mode.

      But August is usually our lowest mid-winter month on a page view per day basis. It kicks up in September in the last couple of years.

      But KB’s overall growth has been pretty slack this year whereas we’ve been consistently about 35-40% up on our daily page views this year compared to last year for the same month and 25-30% on visits in analytics. It is election year, people are reading more pages….

      There is a hell of difference between packages on how they calculate visits. I looked at sitemeter and google analytics just now for August and there was a third difference between them in terms of numbers. The difference is pretty extreme. That is why I tend to ignore visits, it depends too much on what package is reporting. I saw the same issue between sitecounter and sitemeter when I was testing them.
13. Ianupnorth 13

    2 September 2011 at 3:03 pm

    The resemblance is striking
    • mik e 13.1

      2 September 2011 at 7:48 pm

      Wrong end though IUP
14. HC 14

    2 September 2011 at 7:33 pm

    SUPERB and fitting!
15. lyndon 15

    8 September 2011 at 10:17 am

    Since nobody else seems to have linked to the artist:

    http://www.davidfarrer.com/chapters/introframeset.htm

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