Key caught out

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1. out of bed 1

   5 March 2008 at 11:04 am

   OMG John Key Slippery who would have thought?

   The captcha is Key Antonio???
2. Billy 2

   5 March 2008 at 11:13 am

   If laboru were so concerned about protecting these so-called “vital assets” why did they wait until the end of the sale process? Was it only to cause maximum grief and cost to the shareholders, compnay and potential purchasers?
3. Billy 3

   5 March 2008 at 11:16 am

   I can spell, I just can’t type.
4. infused 4

   5 March 2008 at 11:18 am

   The whole Auckland airport thing is stupid.
5. Steve Pierson 5

   5 March 2008 at 11:20 am

   Billy. It’s hardly the end of the process, and anyway, is that the best National can come up with? ‘we wouldn’t have done it but Labour did it too late?’ Can’t have it both ways.
6. Robinsod 6

   5 March 2008 at 11:21 am

   Billy – if you bothered to read about an issue before opening your mouth and making yourself look stupid you’d realise that the CPF’s full intention was only made clear on the 25th of Feb. I’d say that six working days to make a government position clear and enacted is actually very fast (especially considering it took John key a day and a half just to get his personal opinion straight. When is KT back from holiday anyway?)

   Perhaps if business was a bit more open about it’s intentions ahead of time this could have been done “better”.
7. insider 7

   5 March 2008 at 11:26 am

   What I don’t get is 75% of the shares are held privately, and as private shareholders they are free to sell their shares to whomever they want, NZ resident or not.

   So why has there been no concern about the shares being sold piecemeal to a range of overseas shareholders? We had a Dubai company bidding last year. So this is not about foreign investment per se, it is about the sale to a single purchaser.

   What if the purchaser was infratil and then infratil got sold? Would there be as many problems?
8. Billy 8

   5 March 2008 at 11:26 am

   Steve, you are confused. I do not speak for the National Party. They do not speak for me.

   ‘sod. Where’s the love? You’re all angry little man, lately. So it never occurred to those brave protectors of our essential strategic assets that the Dubai Aerospace bid might have resulted in a sale? That fell over in August. In that case, add being thick to all of their other crimes.
9. insider 9

   5 March 2008 at 11:27 am

   Robinsod

   The airport is privately owned. Why would the board have to bemore open about intentions? What could be more open than publicly announcing them?
10. Monty 10

    5 March 2008 at 11:31 am

    Knee jerk reaction by a desperate party looking for a distraction from the bungle and corruption at the HBDHB. The reality is that this announcement has written $300m off the value of the share valaue of the Auckland Airport. A popularist move that will lead to unintended consequences – including sending a very bad message to the markets that we have a government who will interfere in private ownership issues. John Key was right to step back and analyse the situation and basically say – the rules would not have bneen changed (and I doubt they would have been changed if Labour was not 20 points behind in the polls.
11. all_your_base 11

    5 March 2008 at 11:37 am

    “And basically say” Monty? I don’t think he *basically said* anything he was so busy writhing around his own words.

    Why can’t John Key just give a straight answer?
12. Robinsod 12

    5 March 2008 at 11:42 am

    Oh no! A bad message to the markets! Traders are already leaping out of windows. Capital is fleeing to other markets! Quick sell, sell, sell! Um no. Wait a minute, scratch than eveything’s fine. My advice to you? If you’re so worried sell out of our market and invest in somewhere else like the US. No hold on they’re not doing too good, um how about… Japan…no same story um I know we’ll find the top two nations for ease of business and invest there. Sweet that’ll work! What are they? Oh? New Zealand’s one of them??? Shit – I guess it’s not so bad after all…

    You hyperbolic little fools – for a bunch of folk who predicate your philosophy on “rational man” you are very prone to bout of hysteria. Have a cup of tea and a lie down before you next comment, eh?
13. Steve Pierson 13

    5 March 2008 at 11:48 am

    Billy. I know you don’t speak for the Nats you’re just repeating their lines.

    Insider. The issue is foreign control, not foreigners having some ownership. Which is a pretty strong case against the xenophobia argument put up by the Herald editorial.
14. slightlyrighty 14

    5 March 2008 at 11:56 am

    Hang on, but isn’t Auckland Airport already a privately owned publically listed company?

    If this was the thinking of the Government, why has it let the process go on for so long?

    Isn’t the Government the majority Shareholder of the Auckland Airport’s biggest customer? Isn’t that a conflict of interest?

    What about the NZ investors who have had the value of their share substantially eroded by this governments actions?

    Given that this isuue was never about foreign control, only about foreign investment, and also given that a major company, Infratil, has shares in a number of airports overseas, and that some 40% of Auckland Airport shares are already in foreign hands, what was the point of all this?
15. Steve Pierson 15

    5 March 2008 at 12:12 pm

    slighty. It is about foreign control. Currently 40% of the airport is owned overseas but not as a block, those foreign shareholders exert no real control over the company. A 40% block owned by the CPF would be effectively controlling, it would dwarf all other sharehodlers and only need 10.1% more support to do whatever it wants.

    captcha: tory Heavan – is where foreigners own everything?
16. Phil 16

    5 March 2008 at 12:30 pm

    I think you’re all missing one important unintended bad consequence of this decision – it sends a clear message to the current board of directors that they can do a rubbish job and avoid the risk of a sharper crowd taking over.

    That, quite simply, is the single biggest motivating factor of Board of Directors and Management – do a good job, keep the share price consistent with underlying asset value, and no-one swoops in and takes your job when they see a bargain.
17. higherstandard 17

    5 March 2008 at 12:33 pm

    Steve

    Sorry but I disagree with your views on CPF –
    They are on record as below (while I don’t think there should be majority foreign control of Auckland Airport I believe that the CPF bid is being pilloried somewhat unfairly)

    CPPIB representative Graeme Bevans said the board had from the outset carefully structured its proposal to take into account that the airport was a sensitive asset of national importance.

    CPPIB’s intention had always been to be a long-term minority shareholder without a controlling interest, he said.

    It had entered into a deed which restricted its ability to vote on resolutions to appoint and remove directors of the airport company.

    Independent adviser Grant Samuel had also confirmed in its report that CPPIB would not control AIAL following a successful offer, Mr Bevans said.

    In late 2007, the airport board had approached CPPIB asking it to make a full takeover offer for the airport, which CPPIB declined because of its belief that it was appropriate for it to have only a non-controlling interest.

    “We have always been clear that our desire is to hold a minority stake in the airport, not a controlling one,’ he said.
18. insider 18

    5 March 2008 at 12:41 pm

    Phil you are dead right.

    I am wondering, is AIA a good buy or not. The govt intervention potentially removes a discipline on the management of the company. It may even result in degradation of the asset as they may decide to not invest because they don’t need to compete anymore as they are the anointed airport.

    Or as a “strategic asset” they may feel untouchable and pursue a range of vanity projects that cost more than they are worth – see the history of many of the SOEs.

    Steve

    If it’s about foreign control, what’s to stop a couple of companies buying up less than 40% each but having a joint approach to managing their interests, eg Ameritech and Bell Atlantic with Telecom?
19. Travellerev 19

    5 March 2008 at 3:11 pm

    Thank you for that video.
20. chris 20

    5 March 2008 at 5:08 pm

    Travellerev, great read hope you don’t mind me link whoring this from your blog.

    http://aotearoaawiderperspective.wordpress.com/questions-i-would-like-john-key-to-answer/

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1. Reactions to New Zealand Fast Forward at thestandard.org.nz: posted on 12 March 2008 at 10:39 am
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