Acclaim for Jacinda Ardern

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1. Tamati Tautuhi 1

   2 August 2017 at 6:43 am

   Yesterday I was critical of Labour’s decision however in hindsight I believe it was a good decision especially with the elevation of Kelvin Davis to Deputy PM, the guy is educated intelligent and sincere.

   Hopefully Labour can get the numbers to effect a change in Government, then the country has to set the reset button to begin the rebuild of the NZ Economy after 30-40 years of Neoliberalism, which has stripped the guts out of the country ?

   Going from one of the top 5 countries in the OECD to number 26 or 27 in 30-40 years is not a good look ?
   • srylands 1.1

     2 August 2017 at 7:24 am

     The current policy settings are about right. I don’t see any plans by Labour to change them, except for window dressing. (Remember Paul Keating and the “embroidery on the fabric of policy”?) He argued that his opponents really had no alternative and simply manufactured points of difference with the public around policy settings that are unimportant.

     We don’t need a reset button. But there are some things that must change if we are to consolidate the benefits of our internationally competitive policies. Unfortunately I don’t see those in the Labour policy planks. Perhaps these could be revisited but how is there time to do that in the next 4 weeks? The best they could do would be to signal direction
     • One Anonymous Bloke 1.1.1

       2 August 2017 at 7:50 am

       The current policy settings are about right.

       Which is why all the indicators that matter are getting worse. Poverty, inequality, homelessness, mental health, cruelty.
       • marty mars 1.1.1.1

         2 August 2017 at 8:17 am

         + 1 Yep so true
       • Draco T Bastard 1.1.1.2

         2 August 2017 at 11:20 am

         The only point that sorry lands and National care about is that the rich are getting richer.
   • srylands 1.2

     2 August 2017 at 7:30 am

     Sorry for the break in posts. To continue, there is no reset button needed but there are some blockages. Just take housing as an example.

     Housing. Where to start. Need a comprehensive capital tax and root and branch changes to urban planning. Reduce house prices back to 2007 levels and compensate those who end up with negative equity. It would be worth it.

     Reform rental laws to give renters security of tenure. Water quality.
     • Tamati Tautuhi 1.2.1

       2 August 2017 at 7:37 am

       +100%
     • KJT 1.2.2

       2 August 2017 at 9:32 am

       Srylands. You’re a closet socialist?
       • McFlock 1.2.2.1

         2 August 2017 at 12:31 pm

         damn, that closet’s so deep it goes to freaking Narnia…
     • LivinInTheBay 1.2.3

       2 August 2017 at 5:40 pm

       What will a capital gains tax archive? What has it achieved anywhere it’s been tried?

       Housingnisna supply and demand issue. Nothing more nothing less.

       Reform the RMA for a start. Remove the hoops and crap developers have to go through. Make councils make it easier to develop land.

       That’s how you help house prices come back – changing to 2007 levels would mean you’re giving huge amounts of money away, any coatings on that?
       • Nic the NZer 1.2.3.1

         2 August 2017 at 8:17 pm

         “Housingnisna supply and demand issue. ”

         It’s highly unlikely that aggregate housing demand curves slope down because house price rises provide an investment return. In this situation the more supply the more income possible and the demand can rise as the price shoots up. Housing (and other investmentments) isn’t an asset class amenible to the assumptions needed to have supply and demand work in your favour.
       • One Anonymous Bloke 1.2.3.2

         2 August 2017 at 8:23 pm

         “hoops and crap”

         What specific clauses in the Resource Management Act would you repeal and/or replace?

         Start with Section 5. Let’s hear your brighter fucktard (sp?).

         Edit: to be clear: I’m done with hearing how obeying the law is inconvenient for you. You and the Mongrel Mob.
       • ropata 1.2.3.3

         3 August 2017 at 2:57 am

         CGT is a step in the right direction but I like Gareth Morgan’s CCIT proposal better. It works for the Netherlands…

         Turning to his proposal for a “Comprehensive Capital Income Tax” (CCIT), Morgan says Parliament’s “decision to turn a blind eye” to the very real economic benefits received by home-owners “instills a massive unfairness in our tax regime”.

         http://www.interest.co.nz/property/81975/gareth-morgan-presents-fresh-case-taxing-capital-and-foreign-entities-residential
     • Muttonbird 1.2.4

       2 August 2017 at 6:48 pm

       compensate those who end up with negative equity

       Like hell!
   • srylands 1.3

     2 August 2017 at 7:38 am

     Stupid android.

     Other areas of policy reform .. Accelerate introduction of 68 as age of qualifying for National Superannuation. Abolish all prison sentences of less than five years, phase in a universal basic income. A comprehensive plan to stop intergenerational transfer of poverty and disadvantage. Using agents that people trust to deliver help. Personally I think the giant social welfare beuracracy has had its day.

     Things that are mostly right.. Monetary policy, company law, Tertiary Education.
     • Nic the NZer 1.3.1

       2 August 2017 at 8:18 am

       So to sum up, following this change in leadership Labour should,
       A) propose nothing too radical and
       B) revert major policy propositions to their ‘hard left’ 2014 election platform.
       Is that the gist?
       • Chris 1.3.1.1

         2 August 2017 at 9:03 pm

         Labour had no major left policy propositions in 2014. They supported Key and Bennett’s welfare cuts around that time FFS. Ardern is an unknown quantity when it comes to the poor. Back then I remember questioning her after a public meeting about Labour’s anti-beneficiary stance and she was slippery and non-committal as heck. With Davis at her side and Nash in the background I wonder where she wants to take Labour on poverty issues. She’s in lots of ways talking the talk, but whether the proof really is in the pudding is another thing. I really hope it is.
     • LivinInTheBay 1.3.2

       2 August 2017 at 5:43 pm

       From memory burglary sentences are less than 5 years – good luck selling that.
   • srylands 1.4

     2 August 2017 at 7:44 am

     BTW one change I would add is addressing labour productivity and low skill immigrants. Right now we bring in low skill migrants to milk cows. Long term that is nuts. We are already seeing the impact :

     https://croakingcassandra.com/category/new-zealand-economic-performance/
2. marty mars 2

   2 August 2017 at 7:37 am

   Very earliest days and great start – thank you.
3. Pat 3

   2 August 2017 at 8:21 am

   Listening to RNZ this morning it appears to have instilled huge sense of purpose and confidence in everyone…..right down to how interviews are handled……all I can say is people are weird….and change the government!
4. Korero Pono 4

   2 August 2017 at 8:36 am

   I am really glad I watched Jacinda’s press conference, she came across as very capable and I really admired how she handled the questions, she will be a formidable opponent. I am sure this change will bode well for the Labour party and I look forward to the next few days to see what Jacinda presents to tackle inequality and poverty. Hopefully she will present something new/different and help the party deliver something beyond what they’ve dished up to us over the last 30 years. I guess only time will tell but in my view it will take more than a change of leader to earn voter confidence, though putting Jacinda at the helm may just be a good start.
   • Draco T Bastard 4.1

     2 August 2017 at 11:26 am

     Hopefully she will present something new/different and help the party deliver something beyond what they’ve dished up to us over the last 30 years. I guess only time will tell but in my view it will take more than a change of leader to earn voter confidence, though putting Jacinda at the helm may just be a good start.

     Hopefully but I’m not going to hold my breath.
5. One Two 5

   2 August 2017 at 9:04 am

   Another ‘careerist’ with a resumè so light on weight, the mainstream media are beaming over it..

   Adern has done nothing to earn or warrant the DP position, let alone to be the ‘leader’

   Potential PM…Not by any measure which makes sense…a marketing plan does not count

   Light weight centrists won’t be making the changes required!
   • Delia 5.1

     2 August 2017 at 9:19 am

     So just carry on with Bill, jesus anything is better than the torture that is the National govt.
   • aom 5.2

     2 August 2017 at 9:22 am

     Bet you said the same about that other political lightweight – John …. ah what was his name?
     • McFlock 5.2.1

       2 August 2017 at 12:35 pm

       to be fair, dunnokeyo always was just a fucking dilettante
   • Nick 5.3

     2 August 2017 at 9:41 am

     Jacinda has a heart 12, so that alone puts her miles ahead of the nat bots…. Go Labour!
     • WILD KATIPO 5.3.1

       2 August 2017 at 9:15 pm

       🙂

       Its whats in the heart that counts. always.

       And from what comes out of it comes either good things or bad things. And I think both Jacinda and Metiria have good hearts.
   • simbit 5.4

     2 August 2017 at 1:38 pm

     What’s a good CV for running NZ? Currency trader for a big bank? Farmer? C’mon, any halfway decent person should be able to do 8/10ths of it, and the last 2/10ths, well there’s over 100 others in Parliament or you could just roll the dice.

     Getting in is the hard part, and at the risk of sounding like a sexist pig, Ms Ardern is one of the best lookin’ MPs we’ve ever had. I reckon she’ll pull it off.

     And I could well vote for Labour…
     • paul andersen 5.4.1

       2 August 2017 at 5:58 pm

       english has never been a farmer, thats just a line to suck in the rubes. went to victoria uni, then treasury, then parliament. played at family farm on the holidays cause he was laughed at on the beach
   • One Anonymous Bloke 5.5

     2 August 2017 at 6:38 pm

     *résumé
6. Tamati Tautuhi 6

   2 August 2017 at 9:20 am

   Looks like Winston and NZF are the best alternative then ?
   • Johan 6.1

     2 August 2017 at 9:52 am

     A vote for Winston is a vote for National?
     Best to stay and strongly support Labour!
     Thank you Andrew, opportunity knocks for Jacinda and Labour.
     • WILD KATIPO 6.1.1

       2 August 2017 at 9:20 pm

       Andrew Little was the often unsung and unappreciated worker that laid the groundwork. He should always be held in the highest regard for his humility , honesty and integrity.

       Jacinda Adern has acknowledged this and most certainly Andrew Little should be given a prominent place in the new government.
7. Psycho Milt 7

   2 August 2017 at 9:24 am

   I’m in two minds about this:

   1. I’ll settle for anything that increases the chances of a Labour/Green government coming out of this election, so this is great.

   2. It’s also horribly depressing. Yesterday, Labour changed its leader, a move only panic-stricken and desperate people would make two months out from an election, or that only duplicitous right-wing weasels within the caucus would make within the three-month period when they can change leader without reference to the membership. Either way, that’s terrible, not something I’d be interested in voting to put into government.

   Under the new leader, policies will stay pretty much the same, albeit somewhat less left-leaning, and the MoU with the Greens will stay intact, albeit with more sniping from the right of the caucus. Not much will change. And yet, support and donations are now flooding in, and the media has adopted a fawning tone and is talking Labour up, entirely because the new leader is relaxed and confident with journalists. And also good-looking, which is apparently an important qualification for holding office in the minds of many voters. Yet again I’m embarrassed to belong to the same species as such shallow dumb-asses.
   • Carolyn_nth 7.1

     2 August 2017 at 9:28 am

     Yep.

     Short term, good for the left(ish)

     Long term, not so good for the left
   • outofbed 7.2

     2 August 2017 at 9:42 am

     Yes that sums up how I feel
     Also very perturbed about Kelvin Davis as DP
     He alone means I could not vote Labour
     • greywarshark 7.2.1

       2 August 2017 at 10:49 am

       Remind us why? Was it that Davis stood against Hone? I can’t remember at the moment.
   • Gabby 7.3

     2 August 2017 at 10:42 am

     Well sure, but even more embarrassing that Labour has taken so very long to figure it out.
   • Louis 7.4

     2 August 2017 at 10:42 am

     Yep that says it for me too Psycho Milt. Cynical move when the lives of thousands of kiwis doing it real tough out there are at stake. Not sure or how long or even if I have it in me to forgive that bunch again, my faith and trust in the party is broken. We’ll find out soon enough if that massive risk was worth taking, and hope for our sakes it pans out and the Greens have the muscle to temper those self interests within Labour. Right now I dont hold out much hope.
   • AB 7.5

     2 August 2017 at 12:25 pm

     Very similar feelings – though I’m trying not to write other voters off as shallow dumb-asses. I think we have to accept that most people have no conscious theoretical or ethical framework for their political opinions – so they are much more susceptible to influence by the personalities of politicians.
     It is a bit depressing, but we have to work with it.
   • McFlock 7.6

     2 August 2017 at 12:48 pm

     I dunno. Leadership energy is a big part of winning an election. It’s quite possible that making Labour solid again was an exhausting task in itself, and Little’s batteries were just run down, and he knew it.

     I’m not rejecting the possibility that he walked into the caucus room with a bold plan to revitalise the campaign and deliver an astounding motivational speech to the team, only to find that they’d already taken the vote and Ardern was leader.

     But equally likely is that we’ve all been in situations where you’ve tried everything, gotten a certain distance, but you just have nothing left and you know it. Maybe it’s a shitloop where you’re trying to find a flaw in your code and can’t see it, or you’re sparring and people are yelling “get your guard up” but the arms just won’t go above shoulder height.

     At that point it’s someone else’s turn to have a go (except for sparring – in that situation the other guy is probably as fucked as you are lol).

     I’m just impressed that it wasn’t treated like a poisoned chalice, with a caretaker phoning it in for six weeks or so – Ardern seems to be taking the baton and honestly running with it.
     • weka 7.6.1

       2 August 2017 at 1:48 pm

       That’s pretty much my take too. I saw a video of Little a few days before and he looked haggard. Not tired from too much adrenaline and excitement, but just worn out. It reminded me of the image of Cunliffe in those debates with Key where he looked liked he’d been punched too many times. People won’t vote for that. It’s not Little’s fault (or DC’s), it’s the brutal system we have including a vicious and vacuous MSM at times. But it’s still a real dynamic.

       I don’t know Ardern so don’t know if she has the stamina to sustain herself over the next months and years. She’s looking good on it do far though, which is a good sign.
       • One Anonymous Bloke 7.6.1.1

         2 August 2017 at 6:32 pm

         I doubt the National Party hate speech machine has laid enough ground beyond the existing “mens rights” gobshite.

         Their narrative was based on Little leading Labour into the election. Part of that narrative was all about how much better his deputy was. 🙂
   • Sanctuary 7.7

     2 August 2017 at 1:29 pm

     Dude, that’s democratic politics. The folks have gotta like the goods on the shelves, and the goods on the shelves have to shiny cellophane and bright colours. And you know what? It works. A good politician is good at being popular, gives people hope that they are being heard and in turn listens to the people and keeps the experts in their place.
     • Psycho Milt 7.7.1

       2 August 2017 at 2:05 pm

       I do get all that. But it’s one thing knowing it in an abstract sense and sneering at National for basing three terms of government on it, and another seeing it happening on our side. I won’t complain about the result if it puts National out of power, though.
       • One Anonymous Bloke 7.7.1.1

         2 August 2017 at 6:37 pm

         It is what it is. To quote Homer J Simpson, “Just another bunch of stuff that happened”.
   • LivinInTheBay 7.8

     2 August 2017 at 5:45 pm

     Why Labour/Green?

     Why not just Labour?

     Why do Labour *need* another party?
     • lprent 7.8.1

       2 August 2017 at 6:19 pm

       So what you are saying is that you have a certain amount of either ignorance or stupidity about politics. Hopefully for you it may be the former rather than the latter.

       Try google about coalition politics and MMP. Then look at electionresults.govt.nz to look at the results for all general elections since 1996. Then see if you can explain it to us.

       We won’t deride your (simpleton) explanations too much.
       • One Anonymous Bloke 7.8.1.1

         2 August 2017 at 6:36 pm

         I will 😈
     • Psycho Milt 7.8.2

       2 August 2017 at 7:01 pm

       Why Labour/Green?

       Because they’re both parties of the left and neither will get enough votes to govern on their own.

       Why do Labour *need* another party?

       Why does National? It doesn’t get enough votes to govern on its own either. The answer’s pretty straightforward, if you look for it.
     • WILD KATIPO 7.8.3

       2 August 2017 at 9:24 pm

       @ LivinInTheBay ,… Some mothers do have em….

       But Geez , mate… you take the cake…

       Every day, in every way… Frank Spencer – YouTube
       you tube▶ 0:07
       https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vb5zwLbwds
       • greywarshark 7.8.3.1

         3 August 2017 at 11:12 am

         Thanks Wild Katipo haven’t seen Frank Spencer for years – must watch him because it’s quite poignant like watching the Left painfully lifting themselves out of the Slough of Decades.
   • One Anonymous Bloke 7.9

     2 August 2017 at 6:41 pm

     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiGZQHgWqzM
8. Andre 8

   2 August 2017 at 9:24 am

   Those teeth aren’t just for show, she really knows how to use them. Tearing chunks out Richardson is a damn good demonstration. Keep it up, Jacinda.

   http://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/ardern-it-is-totally-unacceptable-to-ask-women-about-baby-plans/ar-AApgmGv?li=BBqdg4K&ocid=mailsignout
   • ianmac 8.1

     2 August 2017 at 10:19 am

     Thanks Andre. That Richardson is an archaic monstrosity and didn’t Jacinda handle the debate so well but still manage to be charming towards him at the end.
     Great interview Jacinda.
     http://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/ardern-it-is-totally-unacceptable-to-ask-women-about-baby-plans/ar-AApgmGv?li=BBqdg4K&ocid=mailsignout
     • AB 8.1.1

       2 August 2017 at 12:35 pm

       Yep. Will be fascinating to see in what form the misogyny aimed at Clark re-surfaces with Jacinda. Being young and attractive she’s a more difficult proposition in terms of misogynist attack. Some form of the condescending “pretty little thing” line is the most likely. We might get some interesting insights into the foetid recesses of minds like Richardson’s.
       • Carolyn_nth 8.1.1.1

         2 August 2017 at 12:38 pm

         Well, there’s those that have gone very quickly to pressure Ardern about “baby plans”.
         • Robert Guyton 8.1.1.1.1

           2 August 2017 at 5:25 pm

           The “baby talk” has swung heavily in favour of jacinda Ardern and those who pushed it will be feeling foolish; talk-back radio gave the misogynists bloody nose after bloody nose all through the day.
           • In Vino 8.1.1.1.1.1

             2 August 2017 at 7:08 pm

             You are brave Robert. I normally avoid talkback radio because it gives me high blood pressure. But I do like the RNZ satire, “Go Ahead Caller’, where the pretentious intro screams out, “The voice of reason!” and the redneck host then takes the piss out of of the whole vile rubbish that one hears on talkback..
9. Carolyn_nth 9

   2 August 2017 at 9:36 am

   the post is a selective cherry picking of the acclaims, and leaves out the criticisms.

   e.g. The Finlay McDonald piece (entitled “Ardern’s new role: ‘People’s Princess versus Dreary of Dipton'”) linked to and quoted from. here’s some of the rest of the article:

   Well, dreams are free. Ardern’s popularity and charm currently fit the script our political drama writers have been pitching for some time: out with the old and dowdy, in with the young and funky, the people’s princess versus Dreary of Dipton.

   And this may play well if Ardern can do what her colleagues seem to think the main problem has been so far – getting the “messaging” right. It’s the nature and substance of the message, however, that will prove critical in the long-term.

   Right now the perception of Labour’s message is that it represents a kinder, gentler version of the status quo. That may be unfair, depending on how you view the promise of greater social spending, but they have yet to spark the collective imagination with a single, simple proposition such as “for the many, not the few”.

   And from the Toby Manhire, Spinoff piece linked in the above post:

   It is terrible because it merely papers over the cracks, and they will get pilloried for collective inexperience.

   …

   It is terrible because Labour will continue to be bedevilled with questions around leadership and unity. As MP Stuart Nash put it just yesterday, “If we did change the leadership, we would absolutely implode – it would be a disaster.”
10. Reality 10

    2 August 2017 at 9:43 am

    Very smart reply on news hub this am – asked about what Matthew Hooten had been alleging, she just said “who” (Hoo). That put Hooten back in his hole.
    • weka 10.1

      2 August 2017 at 10:39 am

      ha ha, nice one.
11. patricia bremner 11

    2 August 2017 at 9:46 am

    When did the Nash family get things right?? Like Grandfather like grandson.

    He’s full of self interest and was smartly checked by Jacinda.

    Toby Manhire isn’t always correct imo.
    • swordfish 11.1

      2 August 2017 at 7:31 pm

      Geez Louise ! thats a bit hard on Walter !
    • WILD KATIPO 11.2

      2 August 2017 at 9:30 pm

      Indeed. She rounded on him and basically shut him down before he had a chance to open his mouth and go further.

      The Omega wolf tried to usurp his social position in the pack and got warned by the Alpha.
12. Matiri 12

    2 August 2017 at 9:47 am

    I donated to Labour yesterday even though I’m a Greens supporter. I want a change of government.
    • r0b 12.1

      2 August 2017 at 10:34 am

      On ya. I sometimes donate to The Greens, though I’m a Labour member. I support both parties and I want a change of government.
    • Ovid 12.2

      2 August 2017 at 12:59 pm

      Just sent $50 their way. That should cover a new hoarding.
    • mary_a 12.3

      2 August 2017 at 1:37 pm

      @ Matiri (12) … Good one. If nothing else, it’s important to get Labour over the line if we want a change of government. When that happens, the Greens will be in too.
13. Cynical jester 13

    2 August 2017 at 10:20 am

    Yay. after 9 years labour has an actual real life leader not a stuttering timid seat warmer.

    However Grant Robertson must be ousted from the party he is a compulsive backstabber who has now played a hand in destroying several consecutive leaders.
    • greywarshark 13.1

      2 August 2017 at 10:46 am

      Would you say GR is the biggest problem like that? Who else needs watching and moving on so we don’t get white-anted by these hollow people?
      • Michael 13.1.1

        2 August 2017 at 4:26 pm

        I nominate Clare Curran (Fearless Fighter From the South) for the prize of Labour’s Greatest Liability. The woman has just been reported as saying the party membership and unions should not be allowed to pick the leader any more because the last two were hopeless.
        • greywarshark 13.1.1.1

          2 August 2017 at 4:39 pm

          I have heard of Clare Curran’s fighting spirit before from when we had CV on the blog. I don’t know much about her but I thought she was twitching definitely to the Right with that moan about unions etc.
        • LivinInTheBay 13.1.1.2

          2 August 2017 at 5:52 pm

          She’s right though….
          • One Anonymous Bloke 13.1.1.2.1

            2 August 2017 at 6:28 pm

            Then I suggest you vote for her.
            • WILD KATIPO 13.1.1.2.1.1

              2 August 2017 at 9:34 pm

              @One Anonymous Bloke

              L0L !

              That was quick and to the point !

              Nice !
          • In Vino 13.1.1.2.2

            2 August 2017 at 7:15 pm

            She’s right-wing – nothing to do with being correct.
14. Penny Bright 14

    2 August 2017 at 10:22 am

    Wonder how Matthew Hooton’s feeling this morning?

    Got a massive stomach ache from ‘word-eating’ indigestion?

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11897541

    Matthew Hooton: Jacinda Ardern ‘will fail, I think she’s a flake’ – NZ Herald

    Did one of his clients PAY him to say that?

    Just asking – nicely 🙂

    Penny Bright

    ‘Anti-privatisation/ anti-corruption campaigner’.

    2017 Independent candidate for Tamaki.

    Exposing the $1.6 BILLION Tamaki ‘Regeneration’ – GENTRIFICATION $CAM.
    • WILD KATIPO 14.1

      2 August 2017 at 9:37 pm

      Heheehe… I would say Hooten is afraid of Nationals funding cut policy’s being lost when Labour and the Greens win the election … no more getting lucrative contracts to go on tax payer funded media and spout off his pro National party vomit…
15. Karen 15

    2 August 2017 at 10:41 am

    That takedown of Mark Richardson had me cheering, as did her response to some of the media questions in yesterday’s press conference.

    I like Andrew and am really sad for him, but there is no doubt that he was not good at media. In person he is great but he can’t meet every voter personally. I would listen in dread to his weekly appearances on Morning Report – sometimes he was okay, but more often than not he was terrible. In an election campaign this is essential, and I you need to get cut-through and I don’t think Andrew was going to do that.

    I think many people here have underestimated Jacinda (including myself). I think she has held herself back up until now. I found this article from Lamia Imam very interesting.

    http://thewireless.co.nz/articles/jacinda-ardern-was-always-a-star-now-she-s-the-leader
16. DoublePlusGood 16

    2 August 2017 at 11:01 am

    I can’t for the life of me see why everyone is so excited, but sure, whatever, those excited people can vote for Labour and get a Labour-Green government over the line.
    • Sable 16.1

      2 August 2017 at 11:16 am

      So true. In my view this looks like a lack of unity and I wonder if others will feel the same. Also concerned by Labours lack of strong comment over key issues like TPPA when other parties such as NZ First are all over it.
      • Jack P 16.1.1

        2 August 2017 at 3:09 pm

        I agree…NZ first came out strong against the TPPA while Labour was waddling. I’m voting NZ first because I like their policies and that TPPA is at the head of my list. It should be on everyone’s since our sovereignty is at stake. I wonder what Jacinda will say about it. Nash actively protested against it.
17. Sable 17

    2 August 2017 at 11:15 am

    Good luck Labour but my prediction and I take zero joy in saying this is National will win again and things will go from bad to worse.
18. Draco T Bastard 18

    2 August 2017 at 11:17 am

    the people’s princess versus Dreary of Dipton.

    Just imagine if that headline had used Double Dipton instead.
19. Sanctuary 19

    2 August 2017 at 1:21 pm

    I just listened to Jacinda take on Mark Richardson on breakfast radio and ZOMG SHE WAS SO GOOD!!!!!!!

    Having strongly questioned her ability in the past I am now going home, immediately, to whip up an enormous humble pie which I will eat facing the corner of the room.

    Duncan Garner “…Political commentator Matthew Hooton…”

    JA: “Who?”

    Oh yes, fetch the popcorn.
    • Shona 19.1

      2 August 2017 at 1:40 pm

      Great start . Not enough though. What else has she got?
      Andrew’s biggest failing was his inability to handle the media.
      This is a media coup.
      Ardern has been pushed by the ruling class thru the msm for 2 or 3 years.
      She’s right wing and totally part of the ruling neo liberal clique.

      Seen too much of these Blairites to be fooled .
      Helen Clark without the heft of vision.
      Unsurprising to see the media manipulated generations being sucked in.
      • Sanctuary 19.1.1

        2 August 2017 at 1:48 pm

        “…Seen too much of these Blairites to be fooled .
        Helen Clark without the heft of vision.
        Unsurprising to see the media manipulated generations being sucked in…”

        Possibly, but if your ship has just about gone under in a storm any lifeboat that might save you starts to look like an aircraft carrrier.
        • weka 19.1.1.1

          2 August 2017 at 3:30 pm

          +1

          And am tending to agree also with the value of the popcorn moments. God knows the left needs a lift at this time.
    • Anne 19.2

      2 August 2017 at 1:46 pm

      Yep, I’m coming round fast. Just been told Jacinda wants Andrew on the front bench so he’s going to get a good list placing and drumroll… the money’s pouring in.
      • WILD KATIPO 19.2.1

        2 August 2017 at 9:45 pm

        That’s the story , – this is a time when all the stops are pulled out. And we will be seeing a lot more of Andrew Little after Lab / Greens win this election for sure.

        You dont throw away hard working talent with organizational skills like Andrew Little if you know whats good for you.
20. Karen 20

    2 August 2017 at 1:31 pm

    The fabulous Kiri Allan and how she sees the last 24 hours:

    https://thespinoff.co.nz/politics/02-08-2017/labours-emerging-star-kiri-allan-on-the-day-of-chaos-which-elevated-jacinda/

    Jacinda’s performance has given me, and a lot of other people, hope.
21. Gabby 21

    2 August 2017 at 1:44 pm

    It’s looking a bit ‘we made you and we can break you’.
22. savenz 22

    2 August 2017 at 1:53 pm

    Feeling better about Labour’s decision. Jacinda seems to be on fire with positive news all round.
23. tc 23

    2 August 2017 at 2:44 pm

    If she glavanises the female portion of non voters to show up and support her that could be the swing required in a nutshell.

    Kelvin on the front foot serving nact their track record and bs back to them with the peoples princess being positive and inclusive could be a winner.
    • Venezia 23.1

      2 August 2017 at 5:14 pm

      There is something really important for all who post here over the next few weeks. Get young people enrolled to vote. They can do it online. (it is actually compulsory to be enrolled.)
      I found myself with 20 enrolment forms (with Freepost envelopes), after being involved in a community event recently. Yesterday I took them with me shopping at local mall. After dumping my shopping, I took my bundle around the shops. I asked young, mostly female shop assistants the question :”Are you enrolled to vote?” and got rid of all 20 in no time. Some had heard about Jacinda’s rise to fame. Others said they had no idea who to vote for. A couple took a form for their partner. This mall has a convenient post box in the Paper Plus shop.
      Point is – there are a lot of young people old enough to vote who are not enrolled out there. If I can get hold of more forms, I will do another trawl.
      I challenge everyone to do the same.
      • Carolyn_nth 23.1.1

        2 August 2017 at 5:20 pm

        Excellent!
24. Ad 24

    2 August 2017 at 3:53 pm

    Forget the media standup performance; this is the one that really puts the shits up the National Party campaign on to the NZHerald front page.

    The head of Westpac New Zealand comes out for Ardern:

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz

    When the 1 per centers start climbing onto your side after one day, you have the Mo’.
25. Michael 25

    2 August 2017 at 4:23 pm

    Yes – but where’s the beef? Ardern is a breath of fresh air into a tired, stale political machine; she has some fine personal qualities that she has displayed to impressive advantage, too. But without a genuine and progressive alternative to neoliberalism, Labour is doomed. I get the feeling that many Labour supporters are slightly hysterical with relief that a saviour has arisen from the ranks, while conveniently overlooking the fact so much of the electorate regards their brand as toxic. If the Party imagines that cosmetic change, albeit an attractive change, is all that it takes for them to score the baubles of office again, they are in for a rude awakening on 23 September.
    • garibaldi 25.1

      2 August 2017 at 5:02 pm

      Don’ t hold your breath Michael. Jacinda may well be more than “a cosmetic change”.
      • NewsFlash 25.1.1

        3 August 2017 at 12:06 am

        garibaldi

        Correction

        Don’ t hold your breath Michael. Jacinda will be more than “a cosmetic change”.
        • Michael 25.1.1.1

          3 August 2017 at 3:03 am

          We’ll see. I hope you and garibaldi are correct (“right” doesn’t seem appropriate). But I’ve been around Labour for a long, long time … .
26. Ed 26

    2 August 2017 at 5:30 pm

    “But you…..”

    Great to see that jumped up sports player Mark Richardson put in his place by Ardern.

    http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/election/2017/08/jacinda-ardern-it-is-totally-unacceptable-to-ask-women-about-baby-plans.html
    • Tamati Tautuhi 26.1

      2 August 2017 at 5:54 pm

      Boring cricketer, boring brainless reporter, radio jock ?
      • AB 26.1.1

        2 August 2017 at 10:47 pm

        Most boring opening batsman in history (Chris Tavare excepted) backs the most boring PM in history.
      • scotty 26.1.2

        3 August 2017 at 6:35 am

        Yeah, he was our Boycott – minus the runs,
        • srylands 26.1.2.1

          3 August 2017 at 6:53 am

          Stop spreading lies. He had a test average of 45. Which openers since have matched that?

          http://m.espncricinfo.com/newzealand/content/player/38251.html
      • Ed 26.1.3

        3 August 2017 at 6:40 am

        And right wing bigot.
        • srylands 26.1.3.1

          3 August 2017 at 6:54 am

          What is the evidence that he is right wing?
          • Ed 26.1.3.1.1

            3 August 2017 at 6:05 pm

            What he says
    • One Anonymous Bloke 26.2

      2 August 2017 at 6:27 pm

      Dad4Justice won’t be pleased 😈
      • Michael 26.2.1

        3 August 2017 at 3:04 am

        And we should be concerned about that?
    • Union city greens 26.3

      2 August 2017 at 7:26 pm

      On that nasty home renovation show he’s the biggest tool in a tool belt.
27. One Anonymous Bloke 27

    2 August 2017 at 5:42 pm

    “There will nothing blanc-mange about this campaign.” That means it won’t be beige or insipid…

    What’s that guy’s name again? Used to hang around here for a while…
    • Psycho Milt 27.1

      2 August 2017 at 7:03 pm

      Had a blog called “Your blancmange,” IIRC.

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