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An apology to David Cunliffe

Written By: - Date published: 6:00 pm, November 19th, 2012 - 121 comments
Categories: david cunliffe, david shearer, labour, making shit up, Satire - Tags:

I want to apologise.  I was one of the flood of lefties who posted anti-Shearer statements in the week ahead of the conference.  I advocated for David Cunliffe as a prospective leader – indeed, the only leader with the potential for success in 2014, by my own assessment.

And now it looks like my post, among others, has shafted David Cunliffe.  We stirred the pot.  We shook the tree.  We rocked the boat, which knocked over the pot the tree was standing in.  And this convinced otherwise well-meaning, open-minded members of the Labour caucus that a dangerous plot was underway to undermine the very foundations of the Party by mounting an attack under cover of pseudonyms and Birnam wood.

So I’m sorry, David C.  Sorry that I played a part in what’s happening to you.

Hang on.

What the fuck am I saying?

The mainstream media constantly come down on this site, and bloggers in general, for being pseudonymous anonymous cowards with axes to grind.  You couldn’t move last week for Labour MPs declaring they don’t give a damn about blogs.

And yet suddenly the word of a handful of bloggers, and some awful shillery by Patrick Gower, is enough to bring Cunliffe to the brink of expulsion?

I mean, he hasn’t done anything.  Besides deliver good speeches and be generally charismatic and kind of dashing with the whole beard thing happening, Waitakere Woman likes a bit of scruff, yes she does.

… Sorry, got distracted there.  Cunliffe has done nothing, at least publicly.  Not spoken against Shearer.  Not made increasingly more leader-ish statements to the media (when he can talk to the media).  The only “source” for Cunliffe “threatening” the leadership is blogs, and Patrick Gower’s “but WHY, daddy?” interrogation methods.

Is it just me or does that make no fucking sense?

This situation is all the proof we need that there is, indeed, an anti-Cunliffe faction in the Labour Party.  People who perceive his very presence, the very thought that he might like the look of the leadership some day, as an active, viable threat to David Shearer.  (Because ambition is such a terrible attribute in a politician.)

Especially now the membership get more say, some might note.

So, because our media in their wisdom would really much rather report on a beat-up leadership challenge than actual policy, the ABCs are pretending to believe there’s a real problem here, that Cunliffe is up in the rafters in a mask about to drop a chandelier on Shearer’s head, so they can justify punishing and humiliating one of the most talented MPs on the front bench.

Because their first and only instinct, apparently, is self-preservation.

Wow, David C.  I am sorry.

Good luck for tomorrow, mate.

121 comments on “An apology to David Cunliffe”

  1. hush minx 1

    Thanks for making me feel a bit better about this whole mess. There seems to be a parallel universe where much of Labour’s caucus reside and I was starting to think maybe their reality was the real one.

    When I think about what their actions mean for the future of Labour I despair. But you are so right to point out that in the meantime a really good man, one who is the most able to take the fight to national, is getting squashed by his own team for doing no more than what his job was. Shame.

    • Dr Terry 1.1

      hush minx – agreed that “a really good man (the best on the front bench) one who is the most able to take the fight to National, is getting squashed” (with no valid reason). Some of his own team are part of this complicity, but much of the media and a number of right wing bloggers are part of it too.

      • hush minx 1.1.1

        You are quite correct! I just set a list threshold of expectation when it comes to the media :-)

        I can never quite understand though why the media themselves are not more discriminating about the political leanings of some of their more ‘declared’ colleagues.

  2. Richard Watts 2

    ???????

  3. karol 3

    My vote for tomorrow is for the Labour Caucus to demote Patrick Gower.  

    He hasn’t served them well with his pulp fiction journalism (who has been feeding Gower and others such melodramatic lines as “Naked Ambition“?…. actually it sounds like a song).  And his Reality TV-ambushes have just been so obviously clunky – not to mention some of his reporting barely makes sense.  

    Time to vote Gower off the island. 

    • QoT 3.1

      You know, I’d be perfectly happy with Labour’s caucus demoting Cunliffe for doing nothing. Just as soon as they demote Shane Jones (who is on the front page of the “People” section of their website, FFS) for constantly going off-piste, and have a serious investigation into who the hell keeps bitching about caucus colleagues to Garner and Gower.

      Oh, wait. That would involve no patently-obvious anti-Cunliffe agenda to be at work. Darn it.

      • Richard Watts 3.1.1

        I am just very confused. All I want is for the leadership issues to be resolved. I can’t actually work out which way this post is heading, double irony?

        • lprent 3.1.1.1

          Often more like satire descending into outright stirring – but usually with an undercurrent of mockery and bitterness.

          But she is often right.

          /sarcasm on.

          For instance that there are a pack of loons somewhere in Wellington who really can’t stay on message when it comes to social media and the blogs. We’re somehow not of any political importance AND providing a dangerous destabilizing force for democracy in the world. If they can’t stay on a message on something as simple as this within a single week then how can they do anything but confuse the punters.

          /sarcasm off.

    • Well said Karol +100

    • Wayne 3.3

      Maybe Gower uses “naked ambition” because that what it looks like.

    • xtasy 3.4

      Patric GUTTER I suppose you mean!?

      Just another BAD example of good old Kiwi journalism having gone wrong and lost its tradition, I’d say, if there ever was such?!

      I was dumb to think he had something going for himself when hunting down Banksie, but he has now displayed, he has NO respect for anyone.

      Kim Dotcom deserves to get his chance to embarrass the whole lot of idiots here, journos and pollies. I am looking forward to more theatre on that side.

  4. I tried too warn ya QoT , I’m sorry too , I’ll be more f’ing right wing next time (-:

  5. What is really ironic Qot is that Gower is relying on the say so of an unnamed Labour MP as the source for his story yet the parliamentary party and MSM rails against unnamed bloggers.  The irony in this knows no limits …

    • seeker 5.1

      TV3 wheeled out Chris Hipkins to illustrate their beat up tonight. An old or new member of the smear David Cunliffe tag/nag team? Now he and tweeter Clare Curran are off my trustworthy MPs list. )Yes I do have a ‘sort’ of one, list that is.) How many more Labour MPs are to go I don’t know. 8 down, 25 to go.

      • mickysavage 5.1.1

        Chippe and Curran are former staffers parachuted into Labour seats.  IMHO no staffer should ever do this.  MPs should be local people with networks and life experiences outside of Parliament.  I have thought this for a while but their recent behaviour has reinforced my view.

        • Anne 5.1.1.1

          +1

        • Cactus Kate 5.1.1.2

          There are a few others in Labour you could add to that list.

        • saarbo 5.1.1.3

          Yes,senior caucus members have chosen a weak person that they can manipulate for their own convenience. This fact is made clear every time Duncan Garner references his sources from inside Labour. This is the major weakness of Caucus choosing their own Leader,Given Shearer is too weak to discipline these people, how should Labour sort these people out?
          Cunliffe was always the natural leader to take over from Goff but Mallard etc knew that that would mean that they would have to go back out to the real world, hence the desperate and concerted attacks against Cunliffe.
          Cunliffe is an exceptional Leader and incedibly smart, I worked with him for 12 months in the 90′s and I certainly did not witness any of the bull shit I am hearing about him from caucus members, and the media that they feed.

        • Barnsley Bill 5.1.1.4

          It only took 5 years but I have at last found a comment by you that could have been written by me.
          Your Labour party and coincidentally a Labour party that somebody like me could vote for is now gone forever.
          This situation is nothing more than the final push by the Wellington based cabal to take complete control. Your new rules voted in over the weekend have been usurped within 48 hours.
          The team that Clark left in place will gut Cunliffe like a fish today in the hope that he quits politics before February.
          If he is gone you will have nobody to promote in the proper leadership vote and the likes of Mallard and the legion of ex Clark staffers will be safe.
          Form a new Auckland centric grass roots party, vote for another party or emigrate. Those are the choices they have left you because the influence you have left is nil.

    • David H 5.2

      An unnamed Duck?

    • Tazirev 5.3

      Nailed

  6. SHG 6

    Cunliffe has grown the beard because it covers up the fact that he doesn’t have a chin. His lower lip just merges into his neck. Doesn’t look good on camera. Doesn’t look leaderly.

  7. Santi 7

    Cunliffe’s ambition is too blatant.
    Labour needs a leader who looks like one: Shearer is that person.

    • Pete 7.1

      You don’t modestly amble to a senior position in any parliamentary political party in NZ. It’s not a case of just waiting your turn. Of course Cunliffe is ambitious.

    • karol 7.2

      “Ambition” interesting concept.  People think it’s important to have, but, according to you, Santi, it shouldn’t be too “blatant”.

      And what would you say about the “ambition” of an MP who puts himself forward to lead a party after one, invisible term in parliament?  And without doing the hard yards to learn how to manage a caucus, respond quickly to media & in the House? 

    • geoff 7.3

      Yeah we need a leader who is all about image and not substance…

    • Dr Terry 7.4

      Santi. Come on, spell out exactly in what ways you think Cunliffe’s ambition is” blatant”. But aside from this, let me assure you that “ambition” is more a good thing in a leader, than a bad.

    • David H 7.5

      Oh god, now i’m throwing up.

  8. fender 8

    Cunliffe should be made deputy leader if Shearer remains leader.

    If this shit talk of him being demoted eventuates my vote will be lost to the Greens, as will many other votes I believe.

    • Tim G 8.1

      +1 – was thinking this in the shower this morning.

      The Greens or whatever ill-fated band Cunliffe breaks off with (I know that sounds like a kiss of death, but 3 – 8 bad apples (in varying degrees of rotten-ness) in the current parliamentary Labour party have really disgraced our party.

    • David H 8.2

      Yep and how many letter box stuffers etc will they have come election time?

      • xtasy 8.2.1

        A NEW left party must be thought about, real left and real progressive, with potential to integrate and absorb Greens and Mana, that is the way to go, folk!

  9. Rogue Trooper 9

    this will do; i have a soft spot for QoT

    Two political scientists (cough)
    David Slack-Shearer right through til 2014 (Lab / Green)
    Ryan Malone-Cunliffe on the correct path of development, Won’t be Shearer in 2014

  10. Bill 10

    I’ve got time to kill tonight, so I might just go and fisk those TVNZ and TV3 ‘six O’Clock slots from Sat and Sun that claimed evidence of an open challange to Shearer’s leadership from Cunliffe.

    Hardly a healthy way to deal with boredom, I know. But I reckon if it doesn’t result in brain death, then a decent post might result. Tally-ho!

    • QoT 10.1

      Take a strong drink with you …

      • Bill 10.1.1

        jeezus! I shouldn’t have clicked through to todays clips. So there was no leadership challenge and there was endorsement of Shearer as leader in response to those Gower squawks…and now (today) because he has apparently backed down from a leadership challenge that was never made he’s reportedly going to be sent to the wilderness.

        Okay. That’s somebody’s gameplay to leave a clear path for whoever it is they have in mind to roll Shearer come Febuary. That much is clear. The preference being for Roberston? Maybe Parker? Whoever. And they hope that will work? I don’t think so. I suspect it’s going to backfire quite spectacularly.

        A line in your post caught my eye. You write “our media in their wisdom would really much rather report on a beat-up leadership challenge” I have to disagree with you there. The media have been very much front and center stage in creating the beat-up…the faux crisis of confidence or whatever. And even though the whole thing doesn’t hang together – is incoherent and contradictory – the fact is, it’s the best mash up they could create. And where you or I might scratch our respective heads or just logically reject the lines being peddled, the only question we need to answer is why caucus aren’t doing the same – or failing that adding something of substance to the whole affair.

        And the answer is that they can’t. There’s just nothing there for them to work on. They worked hand in glove with aspects of the major media outlets on this and now they have to run with what they have been able to create. And it’s the fact that it’s so unconvincing that leaves me thinking it’s going to blow up in their face. Maybe not today. And maybe not tomorrow. But it’s going to happen.

        And I do so hope they ‘enjoy’ it when it does.

        Now. Back to this lovely bier.

        • dancerwaitakere 10.1.1.1

          Your later point is exactly what I was thinking while watching the news tonight.

          “And I do so hope they ‘enjoy’ it when it does.”

          A certain Senior Whip should keep that in might after his antics in front of the camera’s which we all had to endure at 6:03 this evening (and have been reading about all day).

        • weka 10.1.1.2

          I don’t normally watch the news but I watched TV1 tonight. I found the coverage scarey. Really scarey. It’s one thing to see people on TS turn up and say Cunliffe has done Bad Things but not actually say what they are. But to see the biggest news show in the country do the same thing, complete with guile and no attempt at anything close to journalistic integrity… I don’t actually give a shit who leads the Labour party so long as they do a good job, provide a decent coalition partner for the Greens and hold the ground on the left (although I feel sorry that Cunliffe is getting shafted). But what’s happened in the last day or so makes me despair. What hope is there with such disingenuous fuckwits in charge of the main left party and the MSM?
           
          I also feel for the Labour membership who did such good work on the weekend.

          • Colonial Viper 10.1.1.2.1

            The Labour Membership need to stay staunch and to grow strongly over the next few months. We have won the constitutional tools to win back the heart and soul of our party and now is the time for holding firm.

            • weka 10.1.1.2.1.1

              Makes sense. If Cunliffe gets dumped off caucus tomorrow, will he be able to come back from that next year? Or do you see someone else taking over from Shearer?

        • just saying 10.1.1.3

          I’ve asked this before but got no answer. Maybe readers thought it was rhetorical.
          Was Robertson or any other MP asked to rule out a future leadership bid?
          It’s kind of relevant.

          And yes, the next preordained interchangeable face will replace Shearer before the next election – if the fuckers can get away with it. Robertson. It seems Shearer is the only member of caucus who doesn’t know it. Lucky for them he has vanity induced blindness.

          God this is just sad

          • gobsmacked 10.1.1.3.1

            Was Robertson or any other MP asked to rule out a future leadership bid?

            I haven’t seen/heard it asked. Yes, it’s very relevant.

            Many more unasked questions by the media, partly because they’ve found the only story they want, and partly because Shearer doesn’t do long interviews (too risky).

            Questions like:

            “Is Shane Jones more loyal than Cunliffe? Was Cunliffe a good Minister? Would he be a good Minister? Are there caucus members performing better than Cunliffe in their jobs? Who?”

            etc, etc.

            Those questions will come out later, when Cunliffe has been “dealt to” and – lo and behold – Shearer’s still having trouble with his caucus, and his leadership. Shame they aren’t being asked now.

        • xtasy 10.1.1.4

          Truth is either Shearer an d supporters “shitting themselves”, or it is just an opportune chance for Shearer to wipe out any critics a la Eastern Bloc style politics, by getting them demoted and sent into isolation.

          Whatever, it is a sign of contempt and incompetence for Shearer and the willy nilly cowardly supporters like immature Hipkins, who dared to rubbish Cunliffe in front of TV cameras. That is poor and disgusting. So Labour is a divided lot, not a party anymore.

          There is only one solution: A NEW PARTY!

  11. seeker 11

    Have just listened to Chris Hipkins on Te Karere which I recorded at 4.00pm today. He really went to town on David Cunliffe saying that “he destabilised the last leader”(Goff), that he has “put his self interest ahead of the party, enough is enought this has to stop” he also said he should “put up or shut up” or “go”. Unbelievable! Who is being disloyal to who? What a party!

    I think Shearer put his self interest ahead of the party and New Zealand by saying he was ready for leadership when he patently wasn’t, and obviously still isn’t. One good speech(written by whom) and read out well does not necessarily a good leader make. Had he carried on the uplift from the conference and his speech instead of resorting to this caucus vote reminder of the past debacles, he might have gained my respect (even thought I had previously been very angry at his ‘blogging’ comments) Now I am just desperate having not only John Key, but not as” strong and principled as we were led to believe”, Shearer. Norman and Turei here I come – more Green MPs please.

    • Dr Terry 11.1

      True, seeker, Shearer has put his self-interest first from the beginning. Now, in recent days, he has dismissed and insulted members of his own party for presuming to offer criticisms. Oh, “democracy” alright! I fear that he would become a dictator!

      Might I add that defection to the Greens could be, under the circumstances, the most “honorable” thing to do!

      • Tazirev 11.1.1

        Those defecting to the Greens are the Blog reading, on the ground activists, pamphlet delivers, door knockers, Sign board erectors etc like me.

        • Colonial Viper 11.1.1.1

          Nah mate, please don’t. This weekend we won the constitutional tools required to take back this party, and to clear out the neoliberals and the careerists once and for all. We need you mate. Stick around, get your mates to re-sign up, it will be well worth it.

          • xtasy 11.1.1.1.1

            CV organise the “palace revolt” then, a.s.a.p. please, too many have the gutsful of Labour, for good!

    • Anne 11.2

      He really went to town on David Cunliffe saying that “he destabilised the last leader”(Goff),…

      Remember what that was all about? John Key asking Goff to “show him the money” in the final leaders debate. Goff didn’t see it coming and couldn’t answer the question. It cost Labour the election.

      Cunliffe was blamed and his detractors convinced themselves he did it deliberately. It turned out the paper containing the figures had been produced by Cunliffe sometime earlier, but Goff apparently didn’t have them. Other Caucus members must have seen and/or had copies of them so why blame Cunliffe? He wasn’t even around during the final stages of the campaign because he was languishing in bed with the flu so he isn’t likely to have known what was going on. If it was the same flu virus (swine flu) I caught a few months later, he would not have been up to doing anything.

  12. gobsmacked 12

    You couldn’t move last week for Labour MPs declaring they don’t give a damn about blogs.

    This. So much this.

    The blogs are totally irrelevant and meaningless. But hang on – they’re orchestrated irrelevance! Treacherous irrelevance! But … nobody pays any attention to them … because they are Scheming Bastards! … who have no power at all and represent nobody … but have tried to Destabilise the Leader! … but nobody reads them, so who cares?

    It’s so primary school: “You don’t like me? Well I don’t care, because I didn’t like you first!”

    Nobody in caucus will heed this advice (because it’s on a blog), but I’m going to give it anyway:

    Labour MPs: You do your job. Grow up. Earn our respect. Earn your pay. Stop stuffing up. Start giving this wretched government a hard time instead of a free ride, and in no time at all …

    Problem solved. Even on those bloody blogs.

  13. KJT 13

    Can I say this again.

    “This is a defining moment for Shearer.

    Either; he realizes it is up to him to show he is a viable and effective representative for Labour voters and the rest of the country by February ,and if not, it is well within Cunliff’s rights to put himself up as an alternative.

    Or; he acts like a petulant small boy, like the interview this morning, and demotes or tries to get a pledge of loyalty, past February, from Cunliff.

    Forcing out one of Labours, too few, effective front benchers would show he has not got the best interests of the party, or the country, at heart.

    If they force a vote under the old rules now, it shows total contempt for the parties wishes for a more democratic process.

    Note that Cunliff has already pledged loyalty to whoever the party decides is leader.

    It is Shearers own actions that make us doubt he can lead Labour into the next election.

    Nothing to do with Cunliff. Except that he seems the only viable and capable alternative.”

    And Shearer now proves that he and his supporters would rather Labour imploded than they lose any power. “Naked Ambition” ?.

  14. Peter 14

    No good deed goes unpunished, especially with this faction in caucus.

  15. RedBaron 15

    Agree with both gobsmacked and KJT. Playground behaviour from Shearer and co.

    When Shearer won the leadership it would have been smart to put Cunliffe in as deputy since he has the second largest following. Gives Cunliffe the appropriate amount of power and everybody moves ahead , co-operating. How on earth can Labour preach co-operation and sharing when they are playing primary school gang politics.

    QOT also mentioned something else, beat me to it in fact, Labour have a lot of women voters. Now the ones I know see DC as having the “phroar” factor over Shearer. If you don’t believe me ask the ones you know or your focus group. Shunting him too far off to the side may not go well with a bunch of voters (women) that Labour seem to be taking for granted. If this feels a little shallow look at the people who watch that Nigella cooking on the TV. Don’t ask why DC has the “phroar” factor either. Seems to be either there or not.e.g Winston has it, Russell Norman doesn’t according to my poll.

    • Dr Terry 15.1

      Maybe not Russell Norman, but think hard about co-leader Ms Turei, she has it!

    • Rhinocrates 15.2

      This reminds me of analysis of the American election. Romney is, according to more than one commentator, President of the old white male rich. This isn’t opinion, it’s demographics – there are clear areas where Romney and Obama scored utterly overwhelming victories, and Obama won in those sectors that have been growing and will continue to grow, notably African-Americans, women (particularly younger women), and Hispanics. Romney, on the other hand, rated well in those sectors that are in decline.

      Shearer and co can learn from this. Waitakere man is on the path to extinction – and soon. But they don’t know or care

      A marketing executive for General Motors once said of the Cadillac brand, “Pretty soon the average age of our customers will be ‘deceased’!” Cadillac made a change, making their styling sharp-edged, getting their cars into the Matrix sequels and so on. Now, expanding in China, they see that different design ideas are desired by the market, so they’ll again make changes.

      http://www.autoblog.com/2012/11/08/cadillac-design-to-go-soft-for-china/

      Cynical? So what? Brands survive if they can sell their product and if they can’t, they disappear. OK, GM needed a bailout, but of their brands, Cadillac is doing the best and it’s because they know what their customers want, and they’ll change to suit new markets. Claire Robinson’s simplistic blather on Natrad this morning about how Labour needs to sort itself out and stabilise quickly is naive. Yes, stability is one thing that is good, but they need to be seen to be responsive to what the political market demands, or else the average age of their voters will indeed be “deceased”.

      OK, in this postmodern world, “Labour” is a brand and that isn’t nice, but that’s the reality, so live with it and learn to work with it.

      This past weekend, the Labour PARTY told the caucus what it wants but the self-annointed nobles of the caucus are pretending that it’s Versailles circa 1788. Shearer and Mallard think that they MUST have “authoritah” because… because!

      Some people trying to excuse them draw comparisons with Helen Clark in the early 90s, as if the environment then was identical to that today, which it is not. There are voters alive today who were not even born then, who have grown up with blogs and twitter. To have that idiot Curran blathering about gramophones, wax cylinders and cave paintings now only invites laughter and derision.

      The ABC club – Shearer/Mallard – might win this battle, but in doing so, they’re guaranteeing that they’ll lose the war… and the risk is that they’ll drag Labour down with them.

      Robertson has been in America, observing the election, and hopefully he might have learned something, but from my experience as a Wellington Central constituent, the mans’s an arrogant, complacent idiot who only sees what supports his already preconceived notions, so I don’t have high hopes for him delivering any real lesson to the “nobles” of the party – not that they’d ever listen anyway.

      I’m seeing the Bourbon dynasty or Brezhnev’s Politburo trying to survive into the 21st century and getting utterly outraged because the peasants whom they really, really cared about (irony!) wanted votes, because the the kids don’t get them because they think that they really, really should, …the idiots, all of them.

      Bastards! Swine! Especially Cunliffe! He made it happen! It’s him, it’s his fault! I’m gonna scream and cry, I’m gonna pound my fists on the floor until you pick me up and cuddle me!

      All tantrums have an element of calculation to them. Labour’s self-appointed nobles are throwing a tantrum, but there’s a reason for it and it should be quite clear.

      Listen to the party, the electorate, or you’re history.

      I’d say that’s all in my own humble opinion of course, but I’m not humble.

  16. ianmac 16

    Reports from those who were at the Conference were my reference points. Looked good.
    Then I became confused and kept checking to make sure that I was still on the Standard.

    Anyway best move for Shearer would be to keep Mr Cunliffe on the front bench and not demote him.
    A sort of keep your enemies (if he is one?) close. I think Helen did that with Dr Cullen way back after his asking for Helen to step down because her ratings were around 2%.

    • Huginn 16.1

      My thoughts also.
      Lynn’s observation of how well Cunliffe and Robertson worked together on economics/finance at the conference comes to mind. Maybe it was a mistake to have taken the Finance portfolio off Cunliffe.

      • lprent 16.1.1

        Cunliffe and Parker and Clark in the workshops. I was referring for Cunliffe speaking for Parker when Parker wasn’t there. There are too many Davids.

  17. RedLogix 17

    mmm … where have I see all this polarisation between caucus and party before?

    Oh yes … 1984.

    And who benefitted?

  18. prism 18

    Reminds me of all the good people who advocated for Bill Rowling. I think they named themselves Citizens for Rowling. But it was like herding cats.

    Perhaps we should build a Guy Fawkes and throw stones at it as a symbolic mea culpa for all the unimportant, trivial, outlier matters we have brought up on this blog and no doubt others.

  19. Tanz 20

    this is getting stale. I want to see Key shafted, not the Labour infighting. I feel sorry for Shearer and like his earthy style. He can take it to Key, if given the chance.

    • QoT 20.1

      Because there have been no chances for him to do so in the past year. Good point. :roll:

    • Beryl_Streep 20.2

      Why do you assume that Key is the guy that the next Labour leader needs to “take it to”.
      I’d put money on Judith Collins leading the Nats into the next election.

  20. The the left in the Labour Party won this one, and the ABC rightwingers have been forced to expose themselves as neo-liberal zombies buried deep in the recesses of capitalism. This whole democratisation process was set in motion by the ABC overriding over the members preference for Cunliffe. The new rules mean that ABC has to destroy Cunliffe before February or lose power. How can they do that without getting more and more authoritarian? Blowback. That surge of anger in the members will become resurgent. ABC can sack C but they can’t expel him. A political martyr is a powerful force.
    Those who think that this is an unnecessary fight, or that the ABC are just a power clique, need to understand the class politics cutting right thru Labour. The global crisis has battered Labours working class base while the ABC clique are brown nosing the middle class. Labour’s rightward motion has separated it from its basic constituency. I put my money on the working class youth waking up and throwing out the ABC and all the neo-liberal zombies including the middle class student politicians sucking the blood of the Labour Party. Its either that or Labour becoming a hollowed out rump in the middle and the Gen XYZ workers transforming Greens and Mana into a new workers party.

    • freedom 21.1

      “Blowback.”
      a force not to be underestimated

    • Colonial Viper 21.2

      I put my money on the working class youth waking up and throwing out the ABC and all the neo-liberal zombies including the middle class Parliamentary Services job hunting list MP aspiring student politicians sucking the blood of the Labour Party.

      :cool:

  21. fisiani 22

    There is no need to frame it as a Win/lose scenario.
    Two years from an election there is ample time to start up another Labour party. This happens in lots of countries. Rather than two stags fighting to the death how about a divorce. The Shearer crowd in one party and the Cunliffe/Unions/activists in another. An amicable divorce in better than a winner take all battle. One faction would predominate and be the lynchpin of the Left. Under MMP – 2 parties getting 20% is the same as one party getting 40%. Neither would coalesce with National. Surely the Standardistas would get at leat 1 vote in 5.

  22. Blue 23

    Journalists have a very limited capacity for thought. They get fed an idea and they latch onto it like a dog with a bone.

    They now have their meme about David Cunliffe – he is arrogant, vain and disloyal, thinking of nothing but his image and champing at the bit every second of every day to destablise and destroy Shearer. Every single little thing he does will now be interpreted through this narrow-minded vision and the results pronounced as fact.

    • gobsmacked 23.1

      He was described in the 3News trailer as a “renegade” MP.

      In what mad world is an MP who has never (to my recollection) spoken out of turn on party policy a “renegade”, while Shane Jones, who does so all the time, isn’t?

    • peterlepaysan 23.2

      Journalists can think?

  23. xtasy 24

    Non, je ne regrette rien!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3Kvu6Kgp88

    Edith Piaff, famous historic French singer, put it well, did she not?

    I do not regret anything for uttering criticism of Shearer and the present Labour leadership here. I can try to accept that the caucus decision will want to keep Shearer in place, but it makes NO sense to me and will not make me feel comfortable at all about Labour.

    My decision is to not vote Labour ever again. I am totally disillusioned with the party, leadership and useless caucus members (largely that is, while some are OK).

    NZ can do with a truly new left of centre party, uniting green and progressive labour and other ideas. That would make me feel good. I do not feel good about NZ politics at present, it is a NIGHTMARE!

  24. Tanz 25

    The wider public will dislike this very obvious lack of unity within Labour. Key must be loving all this. Wish the caucus would sort this out once and for all, 2008 was four years ago, after all. FFS! Yep, frustrating for the general rank and file.

    • Santi 25.1

      Exactly why Shearer needs to put an end to all this today and work even harder until Election Day.
      Cunliffe can do his part by taking the punishment he deserves for being disloyal.

  25. Ksmith 26

    Get a grip. Cunliffe was given opportunities because Helen Clark could see his positives while having the ability to control his ego while he grew up. Unfortunately he never did grow up. He is just like roger Douglas – its all about him – and he is prepared to sacrifice labour. But the real problem here is that labour mps old and new need to get key on the ropes. This is not a leadership problem but a team problem and a DC doesn’t really want to share he doesn’t mind if there is no team.

    • RedLogix 26.1

      He is just like roger Douglas – its all about him – and he is prepared to sacrifice labour.

      Now that’s an interesting thesis Mr Smith.

      Any evidence to support it?

      • Colonial Viper 26.1.1

        Now, who was releasing all the threats and innuendo about leadership votes during and after Conference? Which completely detracted from the Conference message?

        Oh yes, the ABC crowd.

        • lprent 26.1.1.1

          Some interesting e-mails now floating around as well.

          • Colonial Viper 26.1.1.1.1

            Cunliffe being demoted is almost beside the point at this stage. MPs and leaders come and go and there are no saints in this business.

            But the absolute underhanded nature, fabrication and intimidation of the last few days has made it clear that a sweeping change must come.

            FFS hundreds upon hundreds of party members saw Cunliffe avoiding the cameras and journos at every opportunity, not the other way around. I saw him do a couple of formal interviews yes but they were all out in the open within earshot of everyone.

  26. Vicky32 27

    [QoT: Vicky, you have been advised on multiple occasions that you are not welcome to comment on my posts.]

    • King Kong 27.1

      [deleted]

      [lprent: And you can keep your fantasies to yourself. What is the rule about authors? ]

      • higherstandard 27.1.1

        You’d do your eyes more of a favour if you stared at the sun for a couple of hours.

  27. Treetop 28

    QoT I did not think that you were a precious princess.

    Do you not believe in freedom of speech?

    Can I suggest as a compromise that you do not respond to Vicky32 and let her comment on your posts.

    The problem I have with banning her from your posts is that she is not generally banned from the Standard.

  28. Treetop 29

    The issue has come up re banning a person permanently from a post and not a total ban from the Standard. It is my understanding that you are permitted to do this. I am questioning doing this because of how you feel about an individual’s comment from a previous post of yours.

    • QoT 29.1

      All I’m saying, Treetop, is that if you think this is about a single past comment, you are mistaken. Beyond that, this “precious princess” will continue to moderate her own posts as she deems fit, unless the powers that be (i.e. lprent) tell her otherwise.

      • lprent 29.1.1

        And I’m really unlikely to do that. The idea is to educate the moderator rather than doing an Irish on them.

        But in this case I think a separation is a pretty good idea – for all of us.

      • Treetop 29.1.2

        I am aware that there has been an ongoing clash of wills; this is unfortunate.

        • lprent 29.1.2.1

          Yep. But those are the breaks. QoT has actually been remarkably restrained in her use of moderation and I think her solution with Vicky32 has been pretty good.

          She could have just as easily just allowed it to escalate to the point that a personal attack was made. That would have triggered the rule that Santi ran into at 29.1.3

      • Santi 29.1.3

        [deleted]

        [lprent: Don't attack authors personally. Banned 2 weeks. Besides I already have copyright on that description. ]

  29. lorraine 30

    Rachel Smalley was at it again on the nation this morning. She was suggesting to Shearer that this blog should be shut down as it may be damaging to Shearer. She suggested to him that he throw Cunliff out of the party. Who the heck does she think she is. Maybe she is ok in some roles in the media but her Paul Holmes x Paul Henry approach is really annoying and distracting.
    I wish she would have asked about where the money would be coming from to building these masses of houses Shearer is promising. Sounded like he was intending borrowing the money on the Nation this morning. His latest is the lack of affordable housing is the cause of young people going to Oz. WHAT ABOUT LACK OF JOBS?
    If people have jobs they can afford to buy houses. Developers will build houses if people have the money to pay for them. They need jobs in order to pay for houses. If people have jobs they have money to pay taxes and that means the government has money to pay for expenses like health and education etc.
    LACK OF JOBS IS THE PRIMARY REASON PEOPLE ARE LEAVING FOR OZ….WHAT PART OF THAT DON’T YOU UNDERSTAND SHEARER?
    Shearer may have practiced the interview so well that he came over reasonably ok this morning and in his speech at the conference but he won’t be able to handle the questions on the fly. His brain doesn’t think that fast and it seems he can only fudge it when he has time to practice practice practice what he has to say.
    All this talk about Shearer being a match for Key….ha what a laugh. No wonder the National MP’s are so smug.
    Cunliff is someone ready made to take on Key. He just needs a chance and the media needs to stop the beatup on him.

    • just saying 30.1

      She was suggesting to Shearer that this blog should be shut down as it may be damaging to Shearer.

      A bit off topic, but I’m guessing LPrent will be dragged into the public eye by the mainstream media eventually. Albeit against his will. All this talking about TS is creating a vaccuum which nature apparently abhors (so my mum reckons anyway).

      • lprent 30.1.1

        …but I’m guessing LPrent will be dragged into the public eye by the mainstream media eventually. Albeit against his will.

        The Nation asked

        We would like to invite you to appear on The Nation, TV3, this Saturday.
        We’re really keen to look beyond Labour’s leadership dispute, and talk
        about what the core of the party wants, and the implications of
        democratising the party.

        My reply was:-

        Just been thinking this through.

        a. I don’t have time. I took considerable time off my current project at
        work to attend the conference. And we’re on a deadline. I’ll be working
        through next weekend to make up that time and the time I have used in
        fallout over the last few days.

        b. Almost everything I have done in the party is operational and is
        quite minimal at present. These days my only real association with
        politics is via The Standard which is more concerned with the labour
        movement, of which NZ Labour is a part. Since having a heart attack last
        year, something had to drop off my schedule, and working on systems for
        the party was it.

        c. I’m really not that interested in being too public outside of the
        blogs and never have been. That is why (for instance) you can’t find
        pictures of me on the net.

        And I can’t actually think of a reason to do it. So sorry…

        Cheers
        Lynn

        I actually missed out that Lyn is heading off for 3 weeks filming in the Himalayas next week. But I was deep in code and deeply antisocial when I wrote the e-mail.

        About the only thing that I could think of that would conceivably entice me into the public domain would be attacks on The Standard or on our privacy policies. I rather suspect that whoever initiated it wouldn’t like the result. I get irritated when I have to adjust systems against attacks.

        I presume that people making attacks (criticism doesn’t worry me) on systems I control will always do so again and I accordingly act to cause as much damage as possible to people doing it over subsequent decades. I’m sure that there is a RFC somewhere describing the strategy of sysops to attacks somewhere.

        People have to remember that I’m not part of a political culture except at the edge. I’m part of the net culture and the cultural reactions tend to be quite different.

  30. lorraine 31

    Rachel Smalley’s interviewing techniques remind me of those ads on TV were they shout at you. She uses far too many closed questions for my liking. I think interviews with open questions where the person has a chance say what they think is far better especially in political interviews. A few times lately I have heard her repeat the same closed question over and over and to me it just shows a lack of real skill.

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    The Internet MANA Road Trip hits Waiariki this weekend. It would be great if all MANA members in Waiariki could especially attend the public meetings and show their support for our Waiariki candidate Annette Sykes. Confirmed speakers Hone Harawira (except Taupo), Annette...
    Mana | 27-08
  • First home buyers $200 a week better off with Labour
    A couple earning around $75,000 a year would be $200 a week better off buying a two bedroom terraced Labour KiwiBuild home instead of an equivalent new build under National’s housing policy, says Labour Leader David Cunliffe.  “National’s policy to...
    Labour | 26-08
  • Another Day – Another big power profit
    The latest profit announcement from Genesis Energy shows that the power company was sold for a song to the detriment of the country’s power consumers, says Labour’s Energy spokesperson David Shearer. “A net profit of $ 49.2 million follows hard...
    Labour | 26-08
  • Labour embraces the rainbow
    Labour will work hard to ensure all New Zealanders enjoy the freedom to grow up and live their lives in dignity and security. Labour’s Rainbow policy, released tonight in Wellington, focuses on International Relations, Human Rights and Education....
    Labour | 26-08
  • National gets fast and loose with the facts
    In their desperation to make it look as though they are doing something about the housing crisis, National is playing fast and loose with the facts, says Labour’s housing spokesperson Phil Twyford....
    Labour | 26-08
  • Labour will drop power prices for Kiwi families
    New Zealanders will get cheaper power prices under NZ Power, says Labour Leader David Cunliffe. “The electricity market is clearly broken. With falling demand for electricity, prices should be going down. Instead prices are going up and companies are extracting...
    Labour | 26-08
  • Labour: Promoting sustainable tourism
    Ensuring New Zealand’s clean, green status continues to be an international tourism benchmark and reviewing MBIE’s oversight of the tourism sector will be on the radar under a Labour Government. Releasing Labour’s Tourism policy today, spokesperson Darien Fenton said tourism...
    Labour | 26-08
  • Skills shortage a result of National’s complacency
    The fact that there is still a severe shortage of skilled tradespeople, despite a growth in the number of apprentices, is a result of National’s failure to plan and develop the workforce, Grant Robertson, Labour Employment, Skills and TrainingSpokesperson says."The...
    Labour | 26-08
  • How much tax does John Key pay compared to a minimum wage worker?? – Mint...
    MANA Movement Economic Justice spokesperson John Minto is calling for a radical overhaul of New Zealand’s taxation system with calculations showing that a minimum wage worker pays a ten times higher tax rate than the Prime Minister. o Minimum wage...
    Mana | 25-08
  • Labour’s culture of science and innovation
    Labour will create a culture of science and innovation in New Zealand that will be the envy of the world, says Labour’s Innovation, Research and Development spokesperson Megan Woods. “Labour believes that good science lies at the heart of a...
    Labour | 25-08
  • Improving life for our new New Zealanders
    New Zealand’s international standing as a community that encourages and fosters all cultures will be bolstered under a Labour Government with an upgrade of the present Office of Ethnic Affairs to a Ministry. Releasing Labour’s Ethnic Affairs policy, spokesperson Phil...
    Labour | 25-08
  • South Auckland housing crisis
    National’s HomeStart package is nothing more than a political stunt designed to beguile South Auckland voters, said Labour’s Pacific Affairs spokesperson Su’a William Sio. “Few working Pasifika and Maori workers in South Auckland will be able to buy their own...
    Labour | 25-08
  • Home buyer subsidy discredited in Oz
    Treasury advised against National’s policy of ramping up home buyer subsidies after it was discredited in Australia because it pushed house prices even higher, Labour’s Housing spokesperson Phil Twyford says. “Documents released under the OIA (attached) show Treasury advised the...
    Labour | 25-08
  • Nursing hours explain turnover and high-stress culture
    A staff survey supports concerns nursing staff at Dunedin Hospital are under increasing pressure and that the emergency department is in a critical state, says Labour’s Associate Health Spokesperson David Clark.  “An ED nursing survey at Dunedin found that 80...
    Labour | 24-08
  • Underhand tactics prove case for axing donations
    Revelations that schools are using underhand tactics to coerce donations from cash-strapped parents further highlights the need for Labour's plan to increase funding so they aren't dependent on contributions from parents, Labour's Education spokesperson Chris Hipkins says. “By law New...
    Labour | 24-08
  • National applies band-aid to housing crisis
    The Government’s flagship housing announcement is a band-aid approach that will push up prices rather than solve the housing crisis, says Labour Leader David Cunliffe. “House sales to first home buyers have collapsed as a direct result of the Government’s...
    Labour | 24-08
  • Climate change focus on the now for the future
    A Labour Governmentwill put in place a comprehensive climate change strategy focusing on bothmitigation and adaptation, establish an independent Climate Commission andimplement carbon budgeting, says Labour Climate Change spokesperson MoanaMackey."This is about future-proofing our economy. Making the transition to alow-carbon...
    Labour | 24-08
  • Labour’s 21st century transport pledge
    The next Labour-led Government will create a 21st century transport system for New Zealand that promotes the most efficient and sustainable combination of transport options, says Labour’s Transport spokesperson Phil Twyford. “Labour will rebalance the Government's transport spending away from...
    Labour | 23-08
  • Housing under National: the facts
    1.       House prices in Auckland Council valuations indicate Auckland house prices have gone up by one-third over the last three years. (Auckland Council) The average Auckland house price has gone up by nearly $225,000 since 2008, up over $75,000 in...
    Labour | 23-08
  • Labour irons out low income tax issue
    The increasing casualisation of work has led to many New Zealand families being disadvantaged through the tax they pay, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. "Many low paid workers are having to work two or three jobs to make ends meet...
    Labour | 22-08
  • Cornered Government comes out swinging
    The National Government is so desperate to keep its dead-in-the-water expert teachers policy alive, it has refused to rule out forcing schools to participate through legislation, Labour’s Education spokesperson Chris Hipkins says. “John Key today attacked the Educational Institute for...
    Labour | 22-08
  • Pacific people continue to go backwards under National
    A report from Victoria University highlights the fact that Pacific people are continuing to go backwards under a National Government, said Labour’s Pacific Affairs spokesperson Su’a William Sio.  “The report shows the largest inequality increases were in smoking, obesity, tertiary...
    Labour | 22-08
  • Wellington transport plan needs to keep moving
    The failure of the Transport Agency to properly look at alternatives to the Basin Reserve flyover is not a good reason for further delays to improving transport in Wellington, Labour MPs Grant Robertson and Annette King say. “The Board of...
    Labour | 22-08
  • Labour’s focus on inequality, kids and better job prospects
    Tackling child poverty and removing barriers to people working part time to enhance their prospects of moving into a fulltime job are highlights of Labour’s Social Development policy. Releasing the policy today, spokesperson Sue Moroney said while part-time work was...
    Labour | 21-08
  • Political staff should give answers under oath
    The Inspector General of Security and Intelligence should use her full statutory powers to question witnesses under oath about the leak of SIS information, says Labour MP Phil Goff. “Leakage of confidential information from the SIS for political purposes is...
    Labour | 21-08
  • High dollar, hands-off Govt sends workers to dole queue
    The loss of up to 100 jobs at Croxley stationery in Auckland is devastating news for their families and the local Avondale community, Labour’s Employment, Skills and Training spokesperson Grant Robertson says. “The company’s inability to compete in international markets...
    Labour | 21-08
  • National’s flagship education policy dead in the water
    National’s plan to create executive principals and expert teachers is effectively dead in the water with news that 93 percent of primary teachers have no confidence in the scheme, Labour’s Education spokesperson Chris Hipkins says. “The fact that teachers are...
    Labour | 21-08
  • Dunedin will be a knowledge and innovation centre under Labour
    Dunedin will become a knowledge and innovation centre under a Labour Government that will back local businesses, support technology initiatives and fund dynamic regional projects, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. “Nowhere has the National Government’s short-sightedness been more apparently than...
    Labour | 21-08
  • Inquiry into SIS disclosures the right decision
    Labour MP Phil Goff says the Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security has done the right thing by launching an inquiry into the disclosure of SIS documents about a meeting between himself and the agency’s former director-general. “This inquiry is necessary...
    Labour | 20-08
  • Labour – supporting and valuing carers and the cared for
    Placing real value on our elderly and the people who care for them will be a priority for a Labour Government, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. Releasing Labour’s Senior Citizens policy today David Cunliffe promised that a Labour Government would...
    Labour | 20-08
  • By Hoki! It’s Labour’s fisheries policy
    A Labour Government will protect the iconic Kiwi tradition of fishing by improving access to the coast, protecting the rights of recreational fishers and reviewing snapper restrictions, Labour’s Fisheries spokesperson Damien O’Connor says. “Catching a fish from the rocks, beach...
    Labour | 20-08
  • Mighty River – Mighty Profits – Mighty hard to swallow
    Mighty River Power’s profit increase of 84 per cent is simply outrageous, says Labour’s Energy spokesperson David Shearer. “Demand for electricity is flat or declining yet the company has made enormous profits. It is the latest power company to celebrate...
    Labour | 19-08
  • Collins’ actions were wrong, not unwise
    John Key’s moral compass remains off-kilter as he cannot bring himself to declare Judith Collins’ actions outright wrong, not simply ‘unwise’, said Labour MP Grant Robertson. “Under pressure John Key is finally shifting his stance but his failure to condemn...
    Labour | 19-08
  • Voting starts tomorrow!
    On the telly, in the papers, on the Net, billboards on almost every street corner – it’s hard to miss the fact that there’s an election coming up. Everyone’s trying to win your vote on Election Day, September 20, (this...
    The Daily Blog | 02-09
  • Collins inquiry a whitewash before it has even started
    The farce whitewash that Key is trying to push through here for the inquiry into Judith Collins role in a hit on the SFO should enrage any NZer, regardless of how they vote. Whaleoil won’t be forced to appear, it’s...
    The Daily Blog | 02-09
  • Press Leaders Debate – Round 2 – 7pm tonight
    This debate is live in a Town Hall, Key has done well at these in the past, but since the hate politics exposed in Dirty Politics, expect real fury directed at Key. My guess is that Key will attempt to use whatever he...
    The Daily Blog | 02-09
  • MANA hit speed wobbles – why Annette Sykes will win Waiariki
    MANA are my favourites. But of late, their transition from crawling to sprinting has hit some speed wobbles. Hone’s and Pam’s aggressive attitude towards the media recently is very understandable in light of how connected many of the media were to...
    The Daily Blog | 02-09
  • Soz Cam – PaknSave boycott of whaleoil continues – time to start a boyc...
    Cam is so carcinogenic now, not even his mates in the Tobacco Industry are talking to him any longer. I suspect only the Israeli Defence Force propaganda department are paying for content on whaleoil now. Cam says that PaknSave have dropped their problems...
    The Daily Blog | 02-09
  • The Rock Fuels NZ Roastbuster Rape Culture
    This is making me feel pretty uncomfortable. Here we have an instance of Jono and Ben posing like “exposed celebrities”. But do you know what I’m seeing? I’m seeing two dudes who basically “roasted” a woman online (exposed pictures of...
    The Daily Blog | 02-09
  • GUEST BLOG: Kate Davis – Why beneficiaries need advocacy
    There are times when I am wrong. I was wrong recently when someone suggested to me that AAAP should be eligible for government funding to continues its advocacy work. That was before. Before dealing with advocacy on a weekly basis...
    The Daily Blog | 01-09
  • TheDailyBlog September Political Poll Has Been Kicked Off
    The Daily Blog’s August poll has concluded and the September poll has been kicked off, asking readers: What party will you likely vote for at this year’s General Election? You will see this month’s poll in the right-hand sidebar of...
    The Daily Blog | 01-09
  • GUEST BLOG: Kelly Ellis – Jamie Whyte, leave that poor seal alone!
    Worse than showing mere lip service to Rainbow inclusion, ACT leader Jamie Whyte showed stunning arrogance when appeared at a candidates debate on rainbow issues hosted by the Auckland University Students’ Association last Thursday. The stunning hypocrisy was evident as...
    The Daily Blog | 01-09
  • Right wing can’t help but use scum
    Some people have been shocked that the traditional right wing party in New Zealand politics is so deeply embedded with scum like the blogger Whale Oil. We need not be so surprised. It takes a certain type to support the...
    The Daily Blog | 01-09
  • EXCLUSIVE: National’s Ohariu candidate admits contact by Simon Lusk
    . . Wellington, NZ, 31  August – At a meet-the-candidates public meeting in the Rongotai Electorate, National’s Ohariu candidate, Brett Hudson, confirmed that he had been approached by “a mate”, who passed on a message from  National Party operative, Simon...
    The Daily Blog | 01-09
  • Coalition for Better Broadcasting – Auckland Broadcasting Debate 2014
    Coalition for Better Broadcasting – Auckland Broadcasting Debate 2014...
    The Daily Blog | 01-09
  • Petition for Governor General of New Zealand to Investigate all the allegat...
      Now we see the inquiry will be a whitewash, that is secret, won’t be consulted with the Opposition, will have limited scope and will ignore Nicky Hager’s book, we must demand the Governor General step in and demand an...
    The Daily Blog | 01-09
  • Ashburton, 1 September 2014
    I NEVER WENT BACK to Aramoana after the killing. I had been a frequent visitor to the tiny seaside village back in the late 1970s and throughout the 80s. Its tall cliffs and broad beaches providing a colourful backdrop to...
    The Daily Blog | 01-09
  • Checkmate in 1 move – how could Slater have known what was in OIA request...
    And now we get down to the final few moves before checkmate. If the following investigation is right, how could Slater and Collins have known what was in the Secret Intelligence Service Official Information Act request that hadn’t been released...
    The Daily Blog | 01-09
  • The Edge Posts Naked Photos Of Jennifer Lawrence Without Consent
    Today the Edge website – owned by Media Works – published fully naked photographs of Jennifer Lawrence without her consent. It is not OK to publish naked media of any woman without her consent, full stop. It is absolutely disgusting...
    The Daily Blog | 01-09
  • Bomber, Laila and Maggie – a highlight from Auckland Broadcasting Debate ...
    Bomber, Laila and Maggie – a highlight from Auckland Broadcasting Debate 2014...
    The Daily Blog | 01-09
  • Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking rant on Radio Hauraki: Today, how good was I i...
    Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking on Radio Hauraki...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • Maggie Barry slags Laila Harre & blogger, audience erupt
    The Coalition for Better Broadcasting held their public meeting in Auckland last night and it became a fiery shouting match when Maggie Barry decided to slag Laila Harre and me off. 250 people packed into the Pioneer Hall off High...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • It has to be a full independent public inquiry and Key MUST front
      You know things are bad when images like this start appearing in the media.  It isn’t a ‘left wing conspiracy’ to point out the over whelming evidence of what is clearly a right wing conspiracy! If it looks like a conspiracy, sounds like a conspiracy...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • Political Party social media stats – National playing Dirty Politics on s...
    Interesting data from friend of the blog, Marty Stewart, on social media likes and it shows an interesting question that post Dirty Politics should probably get asked…   …it’s interesting that Key has so many personal followers.  One wonders if...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • The depth of the National rot and the compliance of our news media
    I’m so tired. Aren’t you? I don’t want to read the news anymore. It’s awful and I feel ashamed of it. We live in a country that people all over the world would give an arm, a leg; their life...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • Conservative Party candidate links smacking ban with suicide, sexually tran...
    If Chemtrails, faked moon landings and climate change denial weren’t enough, welcome to your new Minister for Spanking,  Edward Saafi... The anti-smacking law is to blame for youth suicide, youth prostitution and even sexually-transmitted infections, a leading Conservative party candidate...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • A brief word on the canonisation of Matthew Hooton
    Before we all start the canonisation of Matthew Hooton, let’s consider some home truths here shall we? While the Wellington Ruminator Blog, the blog who was previously mates with Judith Collins, now seems to have a crush on Matthew Hooton… …I...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • A brief word on undercover cops in bars
    Dunedin police booze operation labelled ‘creepy’ Undercover police officers drank in Dunedin bars as part of an operation targeting liquor licensing offences. While police said the inaugural operation was a success — with most bars found compliant — the Hospitality...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • Judith Collins press conference
    Judith Collins press conference...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Angry Lawyer – Collins, Odgers, Williams and legal ethics
    We deserve better lawyers than Judith Collins Three of the worst offenders exposed in Dirty Politics are lawyers: Judith Collins, Cathy Odgers, and Jordan Williams. What Nicky Hager exposed them doing would be out of line for anyone, but from...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Pat O’Dea – Necessary Defence
    Increasingly climate change is becoming the main fracture line between political parties. Where political parties stand on climate change defines political parties and movements like no other issue. The Mana Movement like the Maori Party it sprang from, came out...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • Why it is all over for John Key
    Image: Melanie D I’ve been confident that National will lose this election and that our focus should be on what a progressive Government needs to establish as its agenda in the first 100 days. Past that point, the establishment pushes back...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • A brief word to everyone who voted National in 2011
    I received this interesting email from a National Party supporter today… …let me say this to anyone who voted National last election – you should be ashamed by what has been revealed and what your vote ended up enabling but...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • EXCLUSIVE: Déjà Vu All Over Again: John Ansell confirms his participation...
      THE MAN BEHIND the Iwi-Kiwi billboards that very nearly won the 2005 election for Don Brash and the National Party has confirmed his involvement in businessman John Third’s and former Act MP Owen Jennings’ campaign to drive down the...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • Public Broadcasting Auckland debate 6.30pm tonight now with Colin Craig &am...
    The Coalition for Better Broadcasting debate on public broadcasting happens tonight at 6.30pm in Auckland at the Pioneer Women’s Hall, High Street, Auckland City.  In the light of Dirty Politics and the manipulation of the media, public broadcasting is more important for...
    The Daily Blog | 30-08
  • Winners & Losers in Collins sacking plus what’s the latest on Slater...
      Make no mistake, there was no way this was a resignation, it’s a face saving way out for Collins, she was sacked.  My understanding is that National internal polls are haemorrhaging and that the powers that be within National...
    The Daily Blog | 30-08
  • Third party propaganda attacks incoming Labour-led government
    . . Further to a report by Daily Blogger, Chris Trotter, on receiving information regarding planned attack-billboards, the following billboard is highly visible to traffic on the southbound lane of the Wellington motorway, just prior to the Murphy St turn-off....
    The Daily Blog | 30-08
  • Labour wins the Internet
    I’m sure I’m not the only one who tried to vote online for the leaders debate and couldn’t because the website was down. The next option was the txt vote, 75c a pop of course. So I’m not surprised that...
    The Daily Blog | 30-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Anjum Rahman – Rotherham and the need to challenge willful bl...
    I haven’t been following the events in Rotterham too closely.  I’ve read about the basic issues and the culture of silence that stopped action been taken even after complaints were made.  That culture of silence is incredibly familiar, and described...
    The Daily Blog | 30-08
  • Review: Hairspray
      Oh Hairspray! What fun! Somehow I managed to miss the movie when it came out, I had no idea really what it was about though I felt it had a vague relation to High School Musical. In retrospect, that...
    The Daily Blog | 30-08
  • Mounting global pressure against Timor-Leste’s ‘death sentence’ media...
    East Timor’s José Belo … courageous fight against ‘unconstitutional’ media law.Image: © Ted McDonnell 2014 CAFÉ PACIFIC and the Pacific Media Centre Online posted challenges to the controversial ‘press law’ nine months ago when it emerged how dangerous this draft...
    The Daily Blog | 30-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Curwen Rolinson – Spies, Lies and When Campaigns Are Fried
    Like most of the rest of the nation’s political classes, I was eagerly affixed to TV One from 12:30 on Saturday afternoon to witness the downfall of Judith Collins.Whenever we witness the crumbling of a titan of the political landscape...
    The Daily Blog | 30-08
  • BREAKING: Whaleoil crushes Crusher
    Judith ends up shooting herself A new email has been released suggesting that Collins was attempting to undermine the head of Serious Fraud Office with the help of far right hate speech merchant Cameron Slater. Unbelievable!   She has been forced...
    The Daily Blog | 30-08
  • BREAKING: Rumours Judith Collins gone at lunchtime
    Brook Sabin first of the mark with rumours Judith Collins is about to resign – PM announcing a statement at 12.30pm… …Paddy follows… …Vance confirms..   …if Collins is gone by lunchtime, it will be because the PM understands the...
    The Daily Blog | 29-08
  • BREAKING: UPDATE on DIRT ALERT!
    Thanks to the information passed to Chris Trotter by “Idiot/Savant” from No Right Turn it is now possible to identify at least some of the persons involved in this latest example of attack politics. What follows is Chris’s response to Idiot/Savant’s timely assistance: Well done...
    The Daily Blog | 29-08
  • Comparing burning puppets, hip hop lyrics and drunk student chants to black...
    Watching the mainstream media try and obscure Cunliffe’s surprise win in the leaders debate  is a reminder the Press Gallery is in depressed shock. The current spin line from the Wellington bubble media in the wake of Dirty Politics is that...
    The Daily Blog | 29-08
  • Why has it all gone quiet on Charter Schools?
    They’re one of ACT’s flagship policies and the National Party have been gung ho in supporting them. So how come we’re not hearing Hekia Parata, Jamie Whyte, Catherine Isaac, et al singing from the rafters about what a resounding success charter...
    The Daily Blog | 29-08
  • Moment of Truth – September 15th – Auckland Town Hall
    Moment of Truth – September 15th – Auckland Town Hall...
    The Daily Blog | 29-08
  • EXCLUSIVE: Dirt Alert! Are the Greens and Labour about to become the target...
    WE’VE SEEN IT ALL BEFORE. In 2005 pamphlets began appearing all over New Zealand attacking Labour and the Greens. For a couple of days both the parties targeted and the news media were flummoxed. Who was behind such an obviously...
    The Daily Blog | 29-08
  • The Donghua Liu Affair: the Press Council’s decision
    . . 1. Prologue . The Donghua Liu Affair hit  the headlines on 18 June, with allegations that David Cunliffe wrote a letter in 2003,  on  behalf of  business migrant, Donghua Liu. Four days later, on Sunday 22 June, the...
    The Daily Blog | 29-08
  • The difference between Cunliffe & Key in the debate
    It was with much interest that I watched the leaders debate on Thursday night.  I watched with an open mind, always happy to have my opinion changed.  Maybe John Key is all the wonderful things that many say about him,...
    The Daily Blog | 29-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Denis Tegg – When Did We Agree To Our Data Being Shared with ...
    New shocking evidence has emerged from Edward Snowden’s trove of documents about a program called ICREACH under which data collected by the GCSB is shared with 23 US spy agencies. Under new sharing agreements which appear to have commenced immediately after...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • Why Internet MANA are the best political friends the Greens could ever get
    Metiria at last nights #GreenRoomNZ: standing on the shoulders and camera cases of giants  NZers, regardless of political spectrum or apathy level, have a wonderful beach cricket egalitarianism about us. If we can objectively conclude a winner, then that person...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • Independent Epsom Candidates ‘One Strike’ Crime Policy
    Best wishes to all of those who live in Epsom, Mount Eden, New Market, Remuera and of course the rest of New Zealand....
    Scoop politics | 02-09
  • Large majorities of NZ First voters would prefer Labour deal
    67% of those who voted for New Zealand First at the 2011 general election would prefer Labour to lead a coalition government if one is needed after September 20’s general election....
    Scoop politics | 02-09
  • Jointly owned urban development agency for Christchurch
    “Given the strategic importance of the Canterbury rebuild, it is logical that the transition from emergency governance arrangements is overseen by the Prime Minister’s office, but to maintain momentum in the city centre an expert development agency...
    Scoop politics | 02-09
  • Collins inquiry at best a Band-Aid, a permanent fix needed
    Collins inquiry at best a Band-Aid, a permanent fix is needed The Public Service Association (PSA) says the inquiry into Judith Collins’ behaviour must be accompanied by a process to restore the lost trust between Ministers and public servants if...
    Scoop politics | 02-09
  • Association welcomes new Chief Executive
    “The New Zealand Police Association is pleased to announce the appointment of Heather Verry to Chief Executive. Heather picks up the mantle from Chris Pentecost, who recently retired from this position,” Police Association President Greg O’Connor said...
    Scoop politics | 02-09
  • Young Voters Want Politicians to Grow Up
    Young voters want answers to the questions that directly affect them – but it seems as much as anything, they want politicians to grow up....
    Scoop politics | 02-09
  • Climate Voter election debate to get big audience
    Auckland, 2 September 2014 - Tickets to tomorrow night’s first-ever Climate Voter election debate have sold out but an online audience will also get to see the event live....
    Scoop politics | 02-09
  • The Edge show disregard for consent
    The Edge has shown complete disregard for consent, for women’s bodies and in doing so has contributed to the wider issue of rape culture in New Zealand says specialist sexual violence prevention organisation, Sexual Abuse Prevention Network. Yesterday,...
    Scoop politics | 02-09
  • The Rock is Fuelling New Zealand’s Roastbuster Rape Culture
    The Rock are still displaying without-consent images of Jennifer Lawrence and other celebrities online. They are making fun of this without-consent action, saying that she was "asking for it", etc. They appear to be supporting this kind of...
    Scoop politics | 02-09
  • HRLA Condemns Murder of Filipino Human Rights lawyer
    Attorney Rodolfo R. Felicio, a member of the National Union of Peoples Lawyers , was gunned down while working on a land dispute in Rizal, east of Manila. Two caretakers of the disputed land were also injured in the attack....
    Scoop politics | 02-09
  • SFO lays charges for procurement fraud
    Two individuals have been charged in the Auckland District Court today with Crimes Act charges laid by the Serious Fraud Office for alleged fraud against Mighty River Power Limited relating to procurement for the Company’s Southdown power station....
    Scoop politics | 02-09
  • Commitment to lifting wages good for New Zealand
    The Service and Food Workers Union has applauded the Green Party workers’ policy announced today....
    Scoop politics | 02-09
  • Sykes: There’s Only One Poll That Counts
    “One of the oldest sayings in politics is that there is only one poll that counts – the one on Election Day – and that’s the one that I am focusing on” remarked the MANA Movement candidate for Waiariki, Annette...
    Scoop politics | 02-09
  • Winston Peters Shown up by the Civilian Party
    Even the satirical 'Civilian Party' has now offered the Taxpayers’ Union more credible figures for the ' Bribe-O-Meter ' than Winston Peters’ New Zealand First. The Taxpayers’ Union Bribe-O-Meter now includes, National, Labour, the Greens,...
    Scoop politics | 02-09
  • Further criminal investigation into CTV Building collapse
    Police has today confirmed it will be advancing the criminal investigation into the collapse of the CTV building in February 2011....
    Scoop politics | 02-09
  • Greens policy to restore link between effort and reward
    The Green Party’s new workers policy articulates an alternative to wage repression and job insecurity based on restoring the link between effort and reward, according to FIRST Union. The core tenets of the policy include implementing an $18 minimum...
    Scoop politics | 02-09
  • Greens workers policy supported by union movement
    The CTU is supporting the Green Party’s policy launched today focused on improving life for working New Zealanders. “This policy shows the Greens commitment to collective bargaining as the best and fairest way to improve workers terms and conditions. It...
    Scoop politics | 02-09
  • Research Scholarships for Cannabis Treatments
    Medical cannabis research will be boosted by $140 million if the Aotearoa Legalise Cannabis Party is elected on September 20. Pediatric epilepsy treatment will be one of the main priorities for the research scholarships....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Ngai Te Rangi Change to Tribal Elections
    Ngai Te Rangi has begun a postal vote of beneficiaries to change the way representatives are elected to the two Ngai Te Rangi tribal organisations....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Greens’ commitment to pay equity welcomed by workers
    The Public Service Association (PSA) says the 58,000 workers they represent will benefit from the announcement by the Green Party of a commitment to pay equity and to a living wage for core public servants and contractors....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Real People Powering Real Policy
    New Zealanders from all walks of life have helped the Internet Party create a full platform of strong, progressive and realistic policies that will create a better future for everyone, says leader Laila Harré....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • University of Canterbury to help with forestry safety
    The University of Canterbury is to launch a new research project to make sure New Zealand’s new forestry roads are safe and are established with minimal environmental impact....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Time to get serious about ending homelessness!
    New Zealand needs a comprehensive set of policies that address the housing and support needs of homeless people as well as significantly increasing the supply of affordable, good quality houses and flats....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Hundreds to join domestic, sexual violence march
    Several social service providers from across New Zealand have come together to call for an end to the epidemic level of domestic and sexual violence in New Zealand....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Students helped with debt repayments
    New Zealand students now living in Australia are being reminded not to ignore their student loan debt as Inland Revenue expands its latest tool to help with repayments....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Launch of GenderNeutral.co.nz website
    GenderNeutral.co.nz are excited to announce the launch of their new website, GenderNeutral.co.nz ....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Factory farming debaters to look chicken in the eye
    MPs participating in a panel discussion about factory farming will come face-to-face with a real live hen, rescued from the claws of the intensive farming industry. Hettie the Hen will demonstrate to the MPs what little space is afforded to...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Leadership stands strong behind Internet MANA relationship
    “There is now, and always will be, a range of views about many issues within our movement and members are free to express them, but Georgina’s views on Kim Dotcom are not shared by the MANA Movement leadership or the...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Personal Statement by Matthew Hooton
    Personal Statement by Matthew Hooton 1 September 2014 For Immediate Release “This morning I made comments on Radio New Zealand’s Nine to Noon programme about an attempt by staff in the Prime Minister’s Office to interfere in the appointment...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • The Worm turns down for John Key
    John Key struggled to coax The Worm above the line in Thursday’s Leaders Debate, according to Roy Morgan’s Reactor, the original Worm. John Key struggled to coax The Worm above the line in Thursday’s Leaders Debate, according to Roy Morgan’s...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • The Edge Posts Naked Photos Without Consent
    The Edge website, owned by Media Works have published fully naked photographs of Jennifer Lawrence without her consent....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Statement from the Governor-General on Ashburton Shootings
    The Governor-General, Lt Gen The Rt Hon Sir Jerry Mateparae, has expressed his deep shock following the shooting of three people in Ashburton today....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Update on IGIS inquiry into release of NZSIS information
    In recognition of the public interest, the Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security, Cheryl Gwyn, took the unusual step of providing an update during the course of an inquiry and confirmed today that she would be summoning a number of individuals...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • An Open Government Plan developed in secrecy
    The State Services Commission sent NZ’s Open Government Action Plan to the international Open Government Partnership (OGP) Secretariat on 31 July. The countries involved in the OGP since its inception - from the UK and US to Indonesia and Brazil...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • KiwiRail; another year older and deeper in debt
    That is a lot of money and there are lessons that need to be learnt before we pour in another $1 billion....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Fonterra China Deal Demands Safe Supply Chain
    The future success of Fonterra’s deal to sell infant formula in China [1] requires all milk it uses be safe and for Fonterra to secure its supply chain from contamination by GE DNA and pesticide residues. There is now significant...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • HRC praises Auckland mum for speaking out
    Race Relations Commissioner Dame Susan Devoy has praised an Auckland mother of four who went public after humiliating treatment by staff at The Warehouse....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Southern DHB refers disputed issue to Serious Fraud Office
    Following advice from forensic investigation firm Beattie Varley Limited, Southern District Health Board has referred the expenditure at the centre of its long running dispute with South Link Health to the Serious Fraud Office. The parties have been...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • The Letter 1 September 2014
    Last night’s TVNZ Colmar Brunton poll puts the left and right 60 MPs each. United and the Maori Party say they will go with the side that gets to 61 MPs. ACT just needs just 1.3% or 28 thousand Party...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Shopping Giveaway Harmless Fun For Kids
    Family First NZ is rubbishing claims by critics including Gareth Morgan that the New World ‘Little Shop’ promotion is harmful for kids, and says that kids should be allowed to be kids. “Children love acting like their parents and pretending...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Red Cross launches employment service for former refugees
    New Zealand Red Cross is encouraging employers to give refugees a fresh startwith the launch of Pathways to Employment, a nationwide work assistance service....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • EDS welcomes Labour’s Conservation Policy
    The Environmental Defence Society has welcomed Labour’s Conservation Policy including the key objective of halting the current pattern of indigenous biodiversity decline within ten years....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Poverty is falling and income inequality is not rising
    “A Roy Morgan poll shows that the issue people are most concerned about is income inequality. This just goes to show how the persistent repetition of a lie bewilders the public. Income inequality is not in fact rising. And the...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Rotary NZ responding to Fiji water and sanitation issues
    Clean water and sanitation are vital to health. In Fiji Rotary New Zealand have been targeting 22 communities that are experiencing severe hardship mainly because they don’t have access to clean water for their drinking, cleaning and cooking needs....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Work & Income shooting a Tragedy
    Kay Brereton speaking on behalf of the National Beneficiary Advocacy Consultancy group says; “Two people shot and another wounded, this is a tragedy and our deepest sympathy goes out to the family and whanau of the victims, as well as...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • 1080 Poison Deer Repellent not Effective – Farmers
    Four deer have been found dead within a farmer's bush block, after an aerial 1080 poison drop applied with deer repellent. The drop was part of a 30,000 hectare drop across the Northern Pureora Forest Park....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Employment Charter will strengthen migrants’ rights
    Establishing an Employment Charter for construction companies is a critical step to strengthening the rights of migrant workers that are fast becoming the face of the Christchurch rebuild, according to an alliance of union groups. The charter has...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Global March For Elephants and Rhino
    It’s a trans-national business that funds terrorist organisations, fuels conflict in Africa, and poses environmental, development and security challenges. The illegal wildlife trade is also a lucrative business, generating an estimated USD$20 billion...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • New series of videos aimed at disengaged youth
    From the people who brought you 'NZ Idle' (NZ's favourite web series about an artist on the dole) comes a new series about election time: Choice Lolz....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Picket Of Leaders Christchurch Debate
    KEEP OUR ASSETS PICKET OF LEADERS CHRISTCHURCH DEBATE TUESDAY SEPTEMBER 2nd, 6 p.m. ST MARGARETS COLLEGE, SHREWSBURY STREET, MERIVALE...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
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