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At least 225,000 Nats said “No” to asset sales

Written By: - Date published: 10:19 am, December 14th, 2013 - 88 comments
Categories: democratic participation, national, referendum - Tags: , ,

polity_square_for_lynnRob Salmond  is currently running a business selling data based political advice. But he also runs the Polity blog and has given us permission to syndicate his posts when we find something interesting to repeat. Long time readers will remember him from the brilliant posts on 08wire.org during bthe 2008 campaign, so expect us to often find something of interest. Like this post looking at who voted No on the referendum. That number of previously National voters must be scaring the National party at present.  

The results are in on asset sales, with an overwhelming rejection of National’s programme. I estimate at least 225,000 of the No votes came from National voters.

Among the very strong rejection of National’s asset sales programme is another problem for the government – about a third of the votes against them likely came from their own 2011 supporters. In this post I outline an evidence-based estimate about what kind of people voted in the referendum, and how their asset sales position lines up against their 2011 ballots.

Which people voted?

Turnout in the referendum was 44%, which is very good for a postal ballot just before Christmas in conjunction with no other election. But who are they? You have to be something of a political animal to vote in a referendum like this one. A good working assumption is that these were the 44% of people who are the most interested in politics.1

Who did those people support in 2011?

The New Zealand Election Study can give us a good idea who the likely referendum voters supported in 2011. 44% of the population represents all the people in the NZES who said they were “very interested” in politics, along with a little under two thirds of the people who said they were “fairly interested.” That group of the population has a partisan preference broadly the same as the rest of the population, as you can see in the Table below.

Party in 2011 Estimated Support across… Estimated referendum voters
Likely referendum voters New Zealand
National 48.5% 47.3% 646,000
Labour 26.0% 27.5% 347,000
Greens 13.4% 11.1% 178,000
NZ First 7.5% 6.6% 100,000
ACT 1.3% 1.1% 17,000
United 0.5% 0.6% 7,000
Maori Pty 1.7% 1.4% 23,000
Mana 1.1% 1.1% 15,000

How did each party’s former supporters vote?

We know for sure that 895,000 of these people voted “No” to asset sales, while 433,000 voted “Yes.” So what is the minimum number of National supported who must have voted no? Let’s start by assuming that absolutely all the 2011 Labour, Greens, NZ First, United, Maori Party, and Mana voters voted “No.” That is probably an overstatement. Then assume all the ACT voters voted yes.

That adds up to 17,000 Yes votes and 670,000 No votes, leaving only National voters unassigned. As the Table below shows2, at least 225,000 National voters – over a third of all the National supporters who likely voted, said No.

Party in 2011 Likely referendum votes
Yes No Total
Labour 0 347,000 347,000
Greens 0 178,000 178,000
NZ First 0 100,000 100,000
ACT 17,000 0 17,000
United 0 7,000 7,000
Maori Pty 0 23,000 23,000
Mana 0 15,000 15,000
National 416,000 227,000 646,000

This has to be enormously concerning for National. The people who voted for National then rejected National’s flagship policy are very much at risk come 2014. Many are likely centrists, part of the “squeezed middle”who National hasn’t delivered for so far this term. They’ve now already rejected National at the ballot box once.

If National loses these same people to the left again in 2014, it is curtains for John Key.

UPDATE: There are also good clues from the detailed results that the turnout was not just leftie strongholds lining up to say no. Cases in point: National strongholds Clutha-Southland, Taranaki-King Country and Wairarapa had above average turnout, while Labour fortresses Mangere, manukau East, and Manurewa all came in with less than 30% turnout.

1. I know Labour’s turnout targeting was focused on people who we thought had high political interest, so Labour’s campaign didn’t expand the turnout universe into low interest people
2. Some numbers in the table below do not sum properly, due to rounding

88 comments on “At least 225,000 Nats said “No” to asset sales”

  1. Disraeli Gladstone 1

    I don’t think the original assumptions quite hold up to scrutiny. I consider myself very interested in politics. I didn’t vote. Honestly, I have no ideological position against asset sales. If they’re done correctly. However, I’m against how and why the government has undertaken the sales. Also, throw in a poorly worded question (obviously Solid Energy can’t be sold; Air NZ should perhaps be over 49% and the energy companies done in smaller parcels) and I just shrugged my shoulder and decided that either a yes or no wasn’t enough to accurately state my position. I know a few others are thinking like me.

    Furthermore, you have some very right-wing people who are very interested in politics who simply didn’t vote. Heck, apparently Farrar himself didn’t send in a ballot. You look at some of the right-wing votes, a lot of them said they weren’t voting or spoiling them.

    I think what you’ll find is that National voters simply didn’t turnout as much as Labour voters. Obviously, some National voters did vote ‘No’. In fact, I suspect a lot of them did. But I think we’re probably overestimating how many exactly.

    As much as it pains me to say it, oh it pains me to say, but Bomber probably has a pretty good analysis. It’s a good win for the left. It sends out a message. But overall, the turnout wasn’t that great, a lot of people ignored it… don’t get too excited.

    • lprent 1.1

      Umm you might be very interested in politics. However you’re not very good at it.

      The process towards a referendum is long and tortuous. First you have to get signatures to get a referendum… So the question was pretty well established before that could happen.

      Therefore it was also established before Solid Energy imploded

      I think what you’ll find is that National voters simply didn’t turnout as much as Labour voters.

      I guess that you’ve never looked at the results from any postal vote (or for that matter the charts above). The conservative and elderly voters are just about the only ones who do turn out in postal votes. Trying to get Labour and Green voters to send in their forms is bloody hard both in local body elections, and even on an issue like this.

      Whereas National voters turn out even if they disagree (a few high profile publicity stunts like Farrar aside). I suspect that Rob Salmond has actually under estimated the National voters turnout. Based on studies like the long running NZES series, it wouldn’t surprise me if the percentage of turnout in this election for previously National voters was far higher than it is in a general election when it is a lot easier to get lower income voters out.

      Sounds to me like you’re very uninterested in politics. Otherwise you’d know some basics.

      • Indeed, Lprent.

        The few National voters I’ve spoken to were unequivocal in their opposition to asset sales. Not for ideological reasons, but because they understood commercial reality; these are cash cows and it made no financial sense to lose them (or part of them).

        This is something that Key, English, Brownlee, et al, have conveniently decided to ignore. And National voters cannot fathom why supposedly “prudent fiscal managers” are behaving in such an unwise, irrational manner.

        This was a real dent in National’s (undeserved) reputation for “prudent fiscal management”.

        • Wayne 1.1.1.1

          The Nat voters who voted “no” may not like asset sales, but based on recent polls they are not shifting their votes to Labour in an overall sense. May people support parties without agreeing with everything they do.

          In fact I thought the number who supported assets sales was quite respectable at 34%. The Nats will not be that unhappy with the result.

          A huge effort was put in to get a No vote, and no effort to get a Yes vote. I was anticipating the No vote would exceed 70% in the circumstances.

          • Draco T Bastard 1.1.1.1.1

            In fact I thought the number who supported assets sales was quite respectable at 34%. The Nats will not be that unhappy with the result.

            What, even though it shows that their mandate is non-existent?

            • Colonial Viper 1.1.1.1.1.1

              I wonder what National voters in very blue districts like Waitaki and Clutha Southland feel about their anti-asset sales sentiment being ignored by the Key Government.

              • Linz

                Probably a bit miffed. Some interesting stats from the Waitaki electorate:
                Percentage voted in general election 78.66% = 38, 879 with 338 informals – so make that 38, 541.
                Votes of pro-asset sales parties: National, Act, United Future, Libertarianz
                = 22,084 = 57%
                Votes of anti-asset parties – Green, Conservative, Labour, Democrats for Social Credit, Alliance, Aotearoa Legalise Cannabis, Mana, Maori, NZ First
                = 16,795 = 44%
                In the referendum: Pro-assets (yes): 8,837 = 34.3%
                Anti- assets (no): 16, 864 = 65.4%

                Two possibilities:
                Only 40% of the National, Act, United Future, Libertarianz general election voters bothered to vote in the referendum i.e. 8837 out of the 22,084.

                An unlikely 100% of those who voted Green, Conservative, Labour, Democrats for Social Credit, Alliance, Aotearoa Legalise Cannabis, Mana, Maori, NZ First in the general election voted in the referendum and voted No, plus an additional 69 new voters.

                Or some National supporters voted no in the referendum. But how many?

                Total votes in referendum: 25701
                If the same proportion of pro-asset general election voters had voted yes in the referendum, i.e. 57% of 25701, there would have been 14,649 yes votes.
                Instead there were 8837, a reduction of 34%.
                Will it make a difference in the next election? It could do. People in the rural Deep South don’t like being ignored by smart-arsed Aucklanders.

                http://www.electionresults.govt.nz/electionresults_2011/electorate-58.html
                http://www.electionresults.govt.nz/2013_citizens_referendum/2013_preliminary_referendum_results.html

                • Colonial Viper

                  And Waitaki is home to a shit load of hydro generation – part of the local electorate furniture.

                • Tracey

                  Epsom also makes interesting reading. turnout approx 40% and about 50/50 on yes/no

                  As fr smart-arsed aucklanders, Mr Key is a south islander.

          • newz 1.1.1.1.2

            Bang on. No effort made to mobilise a 1/3 pro-privatization vote, 2 years of very hard work to get a 2/3 anti vote. Shows it’s not a voting issue, even if it’s one that matters to people.

          • Tracey 1.1.1.1.3

            “May people support parties without agreeing with everything they do.”

            Yet John Key says they voted for National for asset sales Wayne.

          • Tracey 1.1.1.1.4

            selling the air new zealand assets right when referendum papers went out was quite an effort to influence the vote wayne, making it all but a foregone conclusion…

            how did you reach “exceed 70%” Wayne?

        • Draco T Bastard 1.1.1.2

          And National voters cannot fathom why supposedly “prudent fiscal managers” are behaving in such an unwise, irrational manner.

          I know exactly why and the reason is the same reason for the Enclosure Acts in Britain – it shifts wealth from the commons to the few which then allows those few control over those resources giving them power and wealth.

      • Disraeli Gladstone 1.1.2

        Well, first of all, the referendum process is irrelevant to how I answer the referendum question. I know the question was established before hand, but that doesn’t change the question that I was faced with answering. Also, that’s only the issue in regard to Solid Energy. There’s other issue with the question as well (position of Air NZ, etc). But anyway, the issue of the referendum question was only brought up by me to explain my own (and some others) apathy toward the whole vote. Yes, the referendum process makes it hard to get the perfect question, but that doesn’t change the fact that it wasn’t a great question.

        As I said to Frank below, I’m happy to stand corrected. I was applying my own experience to a nationwide viewpoint and really, that’s not the most intelligent thing to do. I stand by the fact that the National vote turnout was lower than what it could have been. I also think that you can’t just take past trends and apply them straight onto a new result. I agree conservative and the elderly are generally the highest turnout in postal voters. Also, the conservative and the elderly are the exact type of National voter who are going to vote ‘No’. So the percentage is internally leaning within the National Party. As I even acknowledged in my original post, I don’t question the fact that a lot of National voters voted ‘No’. They did. Actually, I think my own post was worded poorly and that’s entirely my fault. I stand corrected. I think a stronger line of reasoning is that the National vote is skewed because those who did support the asset sales didn’t vote, and those who opposed did. So it seems like a higher percentage.

        But I didn’t say that, so fair call. I said I doubt that 225,000 Nats voted and I may/probably be wrong on that.

        I also appreciate the snide remarks, because you know, it’s not politics unless we get snippy at each other!

        • lprent 1.1.2.1

          I also appreciate the snide remarks, because you know, it’s not politics unless we get snippy at each other!

          :twisted: It is also how we all learn.

        • blue leopard (Get Lost GCSB Bill) 1.1.2.2

          @ Disraeli

          I am unsure whether I am understanding you correctly or not but it appears that you are putting forward the view that there are more people supporting the asset sales than this referendum indicates but these supporters didn’t vote. This just doesn’t stand up to scrutiny.

          What stands up to scrutiny is that any poll that I’ve come across came out with similar results – around 70% of the population are against the selling of our assets.

          Please realise that there are also a lot of people who would have been against asset sales but thought there was no point in voting because the government sent a clear message they weren’t going to heed the results.

          You mention ‘conviction’ in one of your comments to someone else – what one can say pretty confidently about this referendum is those that voted were the NZers that had conviction on the issue and those that didn’t vote had a lack of conviction on the matter whatever stance they held. And out of the numbers that had conviction – a lot less people supported asset sales than voted in this government in 201.

          This outcome supports the consistent argument and statistics that have been presented that there were many people who voted this government in whilst not agreeing with asset sales.

          Would have been excellent if this government could have been responsive to public opinion on this matter which they have known all along despite the sophistry they have employed.

    • Furthermore, you have some very right-wing people who are very interested in politics who simply didn’t vote. Heck, apparently Farrar himself didn’t send in a ballot. You look at some of the right-wing votes, a lot of them said they weren’t voting or spoiling them.

      But, Disraeli, aren’t you using the same argument that Key and other National Ministers have used to dismiss anti-asset sales critics? That if you don’t vote, you can’t expect to have an opinion or voice?

      Key has used that mantra so often that it’s ingrained in our collective consciousness.

      • Disraeli Gladstone 1.2.1

        Oh, no. I’m not trying to silence anything.

        The ‘No’ vote won. It won clearly. It won big. And the people who didn’t vote (like myself) can’t go “oh, well sure it won because only the people voting in favour voted”. If Labour and Greens want to use this as a stepping board to buying back the shares, good on them. It won’t stop me voting for them. New Zealand has spoken.

        My post was mainly just looking at the assertion here that at least 225,000 Nats voted ‘No’. Heck, I have zero doubts that there aren’t 225,000 Nats who would vote no. Asset sales is not popular across the political spectrum in New Zealand. It was more a very practical point that I just don’t think they turned out to vote. I’m willing to say that perhaps I was wrong on that and they did.

        That’s the problem with basing politics nationwide on what you know in your community! So I stand corrected.

        • Frank Macskasy 1.2.1.1

          @ Disraeli,

          Thanks for clarifying. I take your point.

        • Yeah, I’d say that “don’t generalise based purely on your local communities” is almost the golden rule of national-level politics, to be honest, so I can understand why that would lead you astray- that said it’s also very hard to completely avoid, because your communities are where you get your social context from in the first place…

          • Rogue Trooper 1.2.1.2.1

            bracketing-out comes in helpful, not reading too much of the local parochial press also.

    • swordfish 1.3

      @ Dis Glads: “I think what you’ll find is that National voters simply didn’t turnout as much as Labour voters. Obviously, some National voters did vote ‘No’. In fact, I suspect a lot of them did. But I think we’re probably overestimating how many exactly.”

      Nyet, Comrade, Nyet.

      Rob* estimates that over a third of 2011 Nat supporters voted ‘No’. You suggest this is an overestimate. Problem is: Rob’s Nat-No estimate (as well as the overall ‘No’ figure from the referendum itself) dovetail very closely with opinion poll figures on this issue.

      Polls from 2011-early 2012, for instance, suggested about a third of Nats opposed, rising to 37% in more recent polls. Similarly, 60-62% of New Zealanders opposed National’s partial privatisation plans in 2010-early 2012, rising to almost 70% in 2013.

      The result simply confirms poll after poll after poll…

      *(I’m honoured to inform you that I was in many of the same Vic Uni Pol Sci papers as the both the said Rob and Hone Johannson)

    • blue leopard (Get Lost GCSB Bill) 1.4

      Actually I consider what SPC said on the No Asset Sales thread to be most telling.

      Only 432 950 of the 1 058 363 Nat voters voted in support of the Asset sales. (Of course some of the Yes votes may have voted for Act or other parties) This spells a big fail for National and shows their spin re partial asset sales being supported by the majority of voters up for what it is – utter rubbish

    • Pascal's bookie 1.5

      I give pretty much zero credence to DPF saying he didn’t vote, and likewise to partisan RWers on the internet saying they spoiled their votes yada yada yada. “They would say that”.

      The result came in pretty much in line with all the polling on the issue. You have to stretch a bloody sight further than Salmond has to make the numbers work in a way that doesn’t show there being a couple of 100k Nat voters voting no on this.

      • Disraeli Gladstone 1.5.1

        Oh no, they definitely voted no. It’s a sizable amount of people who voted ‘No’ or would have potentially voted ‘No’ but didn’t that voted for National in 2011.

        I think the real question is how strong is that opposition in centrist votes. How many people voted ‘No’ but not with too much conviction. That’s something which Labour needs to start looking at when deciding if they need to go after those voters or if they need to go after the 800,000 missing voters.

        I don’t think Shearer (or indeed, more relevant, Phil Goff during the actual campaign) ever really considered that question. The centre doesn’t support asset sales. But they don’t seem to oppose it by enough for them to leave National. So what is a sensible approach (and what Cunliffe is doing) is to consider: well, what else do those voters care about, while also looking at what caused the 800,000 to stay at home.

        Goff just went “well, if they oppose asset sales, they won’t vote National.”

        They do.

        And they still voted for them.

        • Pascal's bookie 1.5.1.1

          Yeah i agree with that.

          I think the potential messaging win is less about the asset sales per se than about the government’s attitude to its voters.

          The more the government says, ‘if you don’t like it you shouldn’t have voted for us’, the better. Obviously that’s not the words they use, but it’s the message.

          • gobsmacked 1.5.1.1.1

            PB +1

            John Key’s Radio Live soundbite, just now:

            “Three in four voters agreed with us”.. Yes, he really said that.

            That’s beyond even the fantasies of right-wing bloggers. So it seems a referendum is a good stick to poke Key with, it exposes his nasty, arrogant side, dismissive of the pesky people, and that’s not the nice Mr Key who won in 2008.

            • One Anonymous Knucklehead 1.5.1.1.1.1

              The coward’s way out.

              A leader would say “We know this is an unpopular policy but we’re doing it anyway because it’s the right thing to do”, instead of hiding behind some mythical silent majority.

        • There’s also the issue of follow-through to consider. If Labour says they oppose asset sales but don’t have a plan to undo them after Key goes ahead and rams them through anyway, what use is their opposition? It leaves Labour looking ineffective and not like a credible alternative government. NZ Power is a good solution, but it’s clearly not yet respresenting enough of an economic package to swing voters away from National.

          It’s not just a matter of opposing unpopular things. You also have to fire back with popular alternatives, and have enough of them to make the comparison obvious, especially with the hostile treatment that Labour is getting from the news media.

  2. Ad 2

    It’s good for the base. But now that Greens/NZF/Labour have made that many approaches to actual citizens, can they turn them into electoral sales? From the way the actual referendum publicity was done, I’d say they don’t have the capacity to convert. So far there’s no sign even that Labour could convert its new members into activists.

    The more accurate question is whether the National government will corrode in public faster than the economy improves. Asset sales are part of the corrosion of the government, nothing else.

    • Ad 2.1

      Wow. Key’s dismissive tone this afternoon in dismissing that many citizens is the best present Labour and the Greens have had all term. Who needs a Labour party when National converts all the petition voters into National opponents?

  3. Colonial Viper 3

    Outstanding by electorate charts on the referendum here.

    http://imgur.com/a/qn7Pg#0

    • lprent 3.1

      Showing big turnouts in affluent National held electorates and poor turnouts in Labour held poorer electorates, right?

      I don’t even need to look to know that is what happened.

      • Matthew Hooton 3.1.1

        No, not really. Turnout fairly even throughout country. It is a good chart. You should look at it.

        • blue leopard (Get Lost GCSB Bill) 3.1.1.1

          “turn out is fairly even”

          No its not

        • Paul 3.1.1.2

          29 – 54 % fairly even?
          Do you use stats to form your political propaganda for the Tories?
          Looks like it.

          • gobsmacked 3.1.1.2.1

            Hooton has to pretend the turnout was fairly even, because he’s smart enough to work out the big problem he has, when people see that it wasn’t.

            The “only lefties voted” narrative depends on high turnout in Labour seats, low turnout in National seats.

            Since that didn’t happen, the logical conclusion that is that there are still many more Lab/Grn/Mana voters out there. People who didn’t turn out to vote in the referendum, but could vote in an election. And a lot of them are brown – just look at the electorates.

            This scares Matthew so much he needs to shut it down.

        • Unlike your articles we do actually have the ability to instantly point out how wrong you are on this site, Hooton, so it’s not exactly tenable to do your usual dryer impression and spin things as hard as you possibly can.

          There’s a clear dip of turnout in the electorates with the highest “No” vote, and a lot of noise in turnout in the rest of the electorates, so we can fairly say that National voters were likely over-represented (as usually happens in postal votes due to the older and more rural demographic of the right-wing) compared to a general election given the voting tendancies of the electorates that had high “No” votes and low turnout. It’s rather clear from this that, as the Opposition argued, a lot of people supported the government but not their asset sales policies. Quelle surprise.

          • Rogue Trooper 3.1.1.3.1

            lol

          • Francis 3.1.1.3.2

            Those with the highest “No” vote portion were the Maori electorates. These electorates also often get a lower turnout in general elections (around 50-60% last election, compared to 70-80% in the general electorates).

            • Matthew Whitehead 3.1.1.3.2.1

              That would matter if the lowest turnout electorates were all Maori electorates, and there was a gap between them and the other electorates, however this is not the case. Also, you have to count past ten strong left-leaning electorates to find the first National electorate with low turnout. It’s very clear what’s going on here- the rural National Party does not like this policy, it’s only the Auckland wing of the National Party that thinks it’s a good idea. It’s even deeply unpopular in conservative areas of Wellington like Ohariu, so it’s really hard to argue that National voters support the sales.

    • Ad 3.2

      Serious electoral gold, for all those campaign managers and E9 evaluators out there.
      Great find.

  4. deemac 4

    well the MSM have had no problem calling the result as a blow to the government. Not a killer blow, but part of the steady erosion of support that you can’t afford when you have a wafer thin majority.

  5. gobsmacked 5

    I think the real value of the referendum is that it’s our version of the ‘mid-terms’.

    In most (and larger) democracies, there are votes between the general elections. If it’s a federal system (Aus, Ger, USA) then there are state elections with the same national parties competing. If it’s the UK, there are Euro-elections, and the annual local elections, both seen (to some extent) as a giant opinion poll. Or there’s a second chamber (Senate etc) which has off-year elections.

    NZ is unusual, in having no ballot box tests between the general elections – apart from parliamentary by-elections, which are too infrequent and local to be more than a very rough guide. So in the absence of real evidence of public opinion, the media are reduced to citing meaningless text polls, talkback, taxi drivers and the like.

    When there are “mid terms”, then the government doesn’t fall, but the parties have to take stock, and adapt their policy platforms for the next election. The voters can “send a warning shot across the bows” (a cliche every commentator is contractually obliged to use).

    That is what has happened here. It is not just about the last election, it is about the next one. As a result of this referendum, National will not go into the next campaign promising more asset sales. In fact, Key will probably have to explicitly rule them out, as he did in 2008 (in order to win his first term).

    So that is a good outcome, not just for opponents of the sales, but for democracy. It’s a blunt instrument, but in our system, it’s all we’ve got.

    • Will@Welly 5.1

      Remember, in 1951 the Nats did away with our second chamber. It may not have been perfect, but it was there for a reason. That’s what is missing with our Parliamentary process. The select committees today are a joke. Key has said he will push ahead with the sale of Genesis next year.
      Holland, Muldoon, Douglas, Prebble, Bolger & Richardson, even Clark, now Key, have all proven how vital it is to have checks and balances in place.
      A 4 yearly electoral cycle with elections alternating between the two houses every 2 years would keep the bastards honest. Lose power in one house, and alot of contentious bills wouldn’t pass.
      And as much as we all hate Colin Craig, he has one valid point – it ain’t the “moon landings – but all referendums should be binding – screw the bastards.

      • The select committees are actually helpful, and better than our second chamber was. That said, I do think there’s an argument that we could do with a second chamber of parliament again if it were directly elected this time, and on a sensible schedule. Alternatively of course, we could always try to sneak BORA supremacy through in a constitutional reform, but I imagine that Labour and National would not likely leave the door open for that, unfortunately.

  6. Fisiani 6

    Yawn Pass me a sausage and a beer. National are polling as high as ever and no one wants to risk ruining the economy and the brighter future by letting the Greens kill the cows and close the mines.

  7. Food for thought;

    Key has dismissed the referendum,

    “Well, the numbers don’t look like they’re that significant. I mean at the moment it’s sitting at around about 40 per cent.

    That’s not absolutely amazing, it’s not overwhelmingly opposed. But the people who are motivated to vote will be those who are going to vote against.”

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/9515170/PM-playing-down-voter-turnout

    1,297,281 voting papers were returned in the Referendum.

    Contrast that to the 1,058,638 who voted National in 2011.

    So according to Key, 1,058,638 National voters are not “significant”?

    Key’s spin doctors seem to have shot themselves in the foot. Not very bright of Dear Leader to so casually dismiss 1,058,638 voters…

  8. swordfish 8

    @ 1prent “…the long-running NZES series…”

    The buggers used to produce very interesting, detailed books (up to 2002 General Election), but now you need SPSS – which I have nae got. Very, very frustrating.

  9. greywarbler 9

    TS Gets more interesting and useful day by day.

  10. infused 10

    I thought the no vote would be much higher to be honest. I was expecting 80% myself.

    In the end, none of us got around to voting.

  11. Lanthanide 11

    And just like the Green’s poster said he would, Key is lumping non-votes in with the yes-vote:

    “Three-quarters of eligible New Zealanders said no they either weren’t going to engage or voted for them.

    “Three in four New Zealanders said no we don’t agree with Labour and the Greens. I think it will be a dismal failure from their point of view.”

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/9518362/key-is-a-monkeys-uncle-on-asset-sales

  12. Philj 12

    Xox
    Infused. I didn’t think John Key allowed staff time to blog on T. S.

  13. Amazing how many right wingers say they couldn’t be bothered to vote – then feel the urge to complain/comment…

    What’s that old saying; if you don’t vote…

    • Paul 13.1

      And interesting that it was wealthier areas whose vote was the highest.
      I’m sure a statistician could show that those who did not vote, on the whole, came from areas extremely unlikely to support asset sales. Not voting is far more likely to be an act of no support for asset sales than support for them.

    • infused 13.2

      I’m not complaining, why can’t I comment?

    • One Anonymous Knucklehead 13.3

      Those who participate in the process must accept the outcome.

      You’re off the hook Infused.

  14. Scott1 14

    Results were in line with the polls. Anyone (like Mathew Hooton) who expected 80:20 or claim/imply the results hide a much better percentage in favour than 67% are just revealing that they are terrible at predicting election results, and that we should take that into account next time they comment.

    Also for what it is worth I know a lot of national voters who would be against asset sales. The thing however, is that those people will mostly still vote national this time around just like they did last time.

  15. cricklewood 15

    If anything this confirms just how piss poor labour were in 2011… a couple of hundred thousand voters swallowed a dead rat and voted John Key and his asset sales rather than vote labour. You can only hope we wont see a repeat next time round…

  16. Philj 16

    Xox
    Labour’s issue is to be seen as a credible alternative. There is a lot of hard work to be done to convince the electorate. The old saying “governments get voted out rather than in” comes to mind.

  17. David Craig 17

    Where the Neoliberals live: As far as I can see, the only 2 electorates in the country where the yes vote in the asset sales referendum was above 50% were Epsom (54%) and Tamaki (53.2%). Electorates with support in the 40%s included Helensville (47.7%), North Shore (48.1%), Rodney (46%), East Coast Bays (44%), Pakuranga (45.9%), Botany (44%) and Hunua (43.7%): all urban and periurban Auckland. Bay of Plenty (42.7%) and Waikato (40.2%) were the only mostly rural electorate in the 40s yes vote. Tauranga (40.9%) is the only provincial city, and Ilam (42.1%)- upper Christchurch is the only South Island or other major NZ city to crack 40%. Most of conservative rural NZ was at least 60% opposed: check out Clutha Southland, where 61.2% voted No. One of the safest Nat seats, and look at that outcome. The winners, however, are the Maori seats: all in the mid 90% for No. Nga Mihi Nui!

    http://www.electionresults.govt.nz/2013_citizens_referendum/2013_preliminary_referendum_results.html

    • Tat Loo (CV) 17.1

      Gotta love the good common sense peeps of Clutha Southland. I wonder how English justifies ignoring his constituents strong opinions against asset sales.

    • Ad 17.2

      The biggest dog-whistle you guys could provide against English in that seat isn’t asset sales, but its wider corollary: land sales.

      Dairy business dominance over the Clutha seat can drive fear into their hearts that they will lose their hills and flats to the Chinese and American food companies. Only New Zealanders should be entitled to $8.10 per kilo ;-)

      When Goff’s private members bill hits the select committee, wrap yourself in that patriotic flag and tell them “They shall not pass” the Overseas Investment Office.

      • Rogue Trooper 17.2.1

        hmmm, is there a renewed land grab occurring….We need The Milky Bar Kid. “Nestles Milky Bahhh”

  18. emergency mike 18

    John Key trying to spin this as a loss for Lab/Green.

    A couple of days ago there was a post here with a pic of him with the caption “If you don’t vote no, John Key will claim you voted yes.” On cue:

    John Key: “Three in four New Zealanders said no we don’t agree with Labour and the Greens.”

    Oh but hang on, by that logic 68% of the voting public said they didn’t want National at the last election. So either that logic is crap, or their ‘mandate’ is crap. Or both, which is my pick. Regardless, if you can count to ten then John Key is insulting your intelligence here folks.

    • blue leopard (Get Lost GCSB Bill) 18.1

      That ‘three in four’ comment Key made is laughable, wrong on so many levels and makes him look both incompetent, desperate and like he can’t count… of course I realise he can count, however do think the dude is incompetent and has no understanding let alone appreciation of democratic principles.

      • Yep, it’s really bad spin to try and claim three quarters of people actively support you when you lost a vote where more people participated than voted for your party at the general election. Only the wingnuts will be liking that line.

        • North 18.1.1.1

          That Key as predicted would resort to the risible spin he presently engages proves this:
          Key came here to do a job on New Zealand; to lock-in even more securely the neo-liberal game in this small part of the world; to effect the transfer of wealth upwards. To the Merrill Lynch ideologue that is a noble purpose.

          Key has run into an emerging consensus that he cares not for NZ in its broadness and that he is cynically dishonest. Still he has the present power to march on with it and he will. He will hunker down and go on regardless. Still more or less assisted by an MSM only just emerging from the inertia of some years of pap-piece passing for analysis. “Wheeee……..Mr Key !”

          You’ve got a fight on your hands Mr Now-Not-So-Smiley-Boy. The times are changing. Please do keep on with the bullshit lines. They simply underline the entitled arrogance that was always there. Your tired, peeved little boy face and your idiot assertions on TV are powerful ammunition against you. You are becoming “unlikeable” in a palpable way.

          And this is without Dotcom in April/May next year. Liar Liar !

          • blue leopard (Get Lost GCSB Bill) 18.1.1.1.1

            Yep well said Mathew Whitehead and North (+ your comment below at 19) I thoroughly agree.

            • blue leopard (Get Lost GCSB Bill) 18.1.1.1.1.1

              [Sorry spelled your name wrong, Matthew, and the edit function failed when I went to correct it!]

  19. North 19

    Latest cover-all advice from Crosby Textor –

    “John – at this stage of the game the best political stunt is to define anything against your own political stunts as a petty political stunt then claim barefaced that you won anyway – this best-practice stunt must be utilised broadly but particularly when it’s dogs’ balls that far from winning you actually lost – please disseminate to all with special emphasis on our safe-hands in the MSM and our tawdriest wannabes and cargo-cultists with extant profile in blogs/social media.”

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    Labour | 28-10
  • New York Green Bank off to a $1B start
    New York Governor Andrew Cuomo announced late last week the New York Green Bank’s first NZD$1 billion tranche of green energy investments. The projects, which are difficult for the private sector to finance, are now possible by New York Green...
    Greens | 28-10
  • Bartlett case means Govt must act on equal pay
    The Court of Appeal victory for Lower Hutt caregiver, Kristine Bartlett demonstrates that both the Government and employers have been ignoring and not fully implementing equal pay law, the Green Party said today.The Court of Appeal today upheld earlier rulings...
    Greens | 27-10
  • Rotorua shift for Maori TV a bizarre move
    The bizarre idea to move Maori TV to Rotorua is either poor planning or possible political interference that adds to the perception of a service in crisis, says Labour MP for Tamaki Makaurau Peeni Henare. “Moving Maori TV to Rotorua...
    Labour | 27-10
  • Second rate deal a no go – Goff
    A second rate deal on dairy in the TPP would totally contradict the agreed purpose of the Pacific trade agreement, Labour’s Trade spokesperson, Phil Goff says. “Both the origin of the trade negotiations and leaders’ statements on its objectives emphasise...
    Labour | 27-10
  • Legal victory a boost for all working women
    Today’s legal victory for equal pay is a much-needed boost for working women at a time when the Government is pushing through reforms which will make it harder for them to get pay rises, Labour’s Women’s Affairs spokesperson Sue Moroney...
    Labour | 27-10
  • National’s failed commodities export strategy exposed
    National's strategy to rely on commodities such as milk powder and logs has been exposed in the September trade figures released today, the Green Party said."National's strategy to hang all economic hope on exporting ever-increasing volumes of milk powder and...
    Greens | 23-10
  • Caution needed on calls to arm police
    There is no justification for routinely arming our police and doing so would change forever the way officers interact with their communities, Labour’s Associate Police spokesperson Kelvin Davis says. “As one of the few organisations distinguished by its unarmed status,...
    Labour | 23-10
  • Govt strains to get tea break law through
    The Government has been left with egg on its face - failing to get its much-vaunted, but hugely unpopular, meal break law passed in the first week of its new term, Labour spokesperson on Labour Issues Andrew Little says.“National desperately...
    Labour | 23-10
  • How low can you go? Mining the depths
    The company says there will be economic benefits, which the EEZ Act says the EPA must consider, but even these benefits are in doubt. The royalties while not set will be tiny, the profits will flow offshore, and whatever phosphate...
    Greens | 23-10
  • Fed Farmers defend GE Agriculture
    Federated Farmers, which represents a minority of farmers, appears to be captured by a pro-GE clique hell bent on increasing unsustainable technologies for the benefit of the herbicide and patent controlling seed companies. That there are better more sustainable farming...
    Greens | 23-10
  • Government loses the affordable housing race
    Nick Smith is dreaming if he thinks he can deliver affordable housing to Cantabrians on his current figures, says Labour’s Associate Housing spokesperson Poto Williams. “The Minister’s announcement that the Government will build 237 new homes, most of which will...
    Labour | 23-10
  • Labour’s thoughts with Canadians
    Labour has offered its sympathies to the family and friends of the Canadian soldier who died in what appears to be a premeditated and unprovoked attack while standing at guard at the Ottawa National War Memorial. “Our thoughts are also...
    Labour | 23-10
  • What next for TVNZ? Outsourcing the news?
    Television New Zealand’s decision to outsource Māori and Pacific programming is a real blow to the notion that our state broadcaster is a public broadcaster, says Labour. “CEO Kevin Kenrick has said today that TVNZ has ‘a very long and...
    Labour | 22-10
  • Green Party expresses sympathy for Canadian shooting victims
    The Green Party expressed its solidarity with Canadians and the Canadian Parliament today, offering its sympathy for family and friends of the soldier killed in the attack. "Our thoughts are with all those caught up in the shooting in Canada...
    Greens | 22-10
  • Poverty & inequality don’t need protest marches – they need a riot:...
    The global level of inequality continues to skyrocket… Number of billionaires doubled since financial crisis The number of billionaires has doubled since the start of the financial crisis, according to a major new report from anti-poverty campaigners. According to Oxfam,...
    The Daily Blog | 30-10
  • If Key knows who Rawshark is…
    I’m sorry, what? John Key ‘given Rawshark’s name’The Prime Minister believes he knows who hacked Whale Oil blogger Cameron Slater’s computer and produced the source material for Nicky Hager’s Dirty Politics, according to a new edition of a recently published...
    The Daily Blog | 30-10
  • Child Poverty stats in NZ
    Child Poverty stats in NZ...
    The Daily Blog | 30-10
  • Crimes Act + Police Investigation = WTF
    Just to frame the farce that is the Roastbuster’s investigation and conclusion – here are the parts of the Crime Act http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1961/0043/latest/whole.html#DLM329057  the Roastbusters are proven to have violated – that the police (and some suspects!) themselves acknowledge occurred: Crimes...
    The Daily Blog | 29-10
  • Publishing Journalists’ Home Addresses Is A Tactic Of The Right, Not The ...
    I think I’m starting to get rather annoyed with the conduct of some pro-MANA people over this ongoing Parliamentary Services crew complement issue. Yes, we get that there are legitimate issues to be raised with how some political reporters in...
    The Daily Blog | 29-10
  • Aucklanders caught between a tarseal-addicted government and a weak mayor
    Len Brown’s proposal for motorway tolls to reduce congestion and provide funding for better public transport is a weak response to a critical issue. The $12 billion dollar shortfall on transport funding he talks about is mainly for projected new...
    The Daily Blog | 29-10
  • A Very Weird Story: Deconstructing Darren Aronofsky’s Noah.
    NOAH is a curious movie. Conceived as a biblical epic, it’s target audience was originally the millions of Americans who regard the Bible as God’s inerrant word. With the sin-filled works of Hollywood forbidden to these true-believers, Christian movie-makers have developed...
    The Daily Blog | 29-10
  • You Can Get Away With Rape In New Zealand
    Jessie Hume with last years petition against rape     The police have sent a strong message today.  In fact they’ve been sending a strong message for a while; a message that our government supports. “You can literally get away...
    The Daily Blog | 29-10
  • Roast Buster case – no charges. In the immortal words of NWA…
    Roast Busters case: No prosecutions Police are to make an announcement this afternoon on Operation Clover, the investigation into the “Roast Busters” allegations. The Herald understands the victim has been told that the alleged offenders will not be prosecuted due...
    The Daily Blog | 29-10
  • Key’s flag change distraction to cost $26million!
    No. Way. Bid to change NZ flag to cost millions The cost of holding two referendums and consulting on a change of flag has been estimated to be just under $26 million. Look. We all appreciate that the sleepy hobbits...
    The Daily Blog | 29-10
  • Why NZ Herald’s Labour Party crocodile tears are so audacious
    The front page the NZ Herald would use if they thought they could get away with it No one can take the recent columns by NZ Herald seriously… John Armstrong: Shadow lingers on National John Roughan: Labour’s leadership vote matters...
    The Daily Blog | 28-10
  • The beginning of the end of Cameron Slater?
    Slater postings on man bizarre, court told A businessman has changed his appearance and had to install extra security at his home after Whale Oil blogger Cameron Slater posted his business and personal documents online, he says. Mr Slater has...
    The Daily Blog | 28-10
  • We are a milk power republic and Fonterra our unelected senate
    Wow. Just wow… Deputy mayor says he’ll be sacked South Taranaki deputy mayor Alex Ballantyne says he expects to be sacked because he has spoken out about the impact gasses coming from dumped Fonterra dairy products have had on his...
    The Daily Blog | 28-10
  • MEDIA WATCH: “…But *actually* this is about ethics in political-game jo...
    Yesterday, a piece of mine on the recent revelations about Hone Harawira employing several gentlemen either accused or convicted of sex offences was published on The Daily Blog. Predictably, given the fierce loyalty which Hone inspires in his party faithful and...
    The Daily Blog | 28-10
  • Privilege cheque
    There was no race problem in my childhood. Living in central Wellington I was well-insulated from what was going on not so far away. This was the 60s and 70s, where the teachers enjoyed free love in the staff room...
    The Daily Blog | 28-10
  • A brief word on Key’s claim that it will be raining carnage
    Isis will ‘rain carnage on the world’ – John Key Left unchecked Isis would “rain carnage on the world”, Prime Minister John Key says, but he has yet to make a decision on whether New Zealand troops will join a...
    The Daily Blog | 28-10
  • Meanwhile…
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    The Daily Blog | 27-10
  • How does Andrew Little win Labour Leadership and unify the caucus?
    Audrey Young’s excellent column on how the Caucus vote  is shaping up shows how Andrew Little becomes the next leader of the Labour Party. She identifies the factions as the following… Andrew Little 6: Andrew Little, David Cunliffe, Iain Lees Galloway,...
    The Daily Blog | 27-10
  • GUEST BLOG: Joe Trinder – Right of response to Curwen
    You have asked that Hone Harawira deserves to explain what happened, how would he explain when his next door neighbour is an alleged sex offender. What explanation can Hone offer he wasn’t involved, Hone had no idea this offending was...
    The Daily Blog | 27-10
  • MEDIA WATCH: That Hella-Weird Feeling When You Defend Tova O’Brien
    Oh dear. Yesterday morning I blogged that Hone deserved a chance to explain what exactly had happened as applies his office’s Parliamentary Services crew complement – and, importantly, that we deserve to be able to judge him on the strength of...
    The Daily Blog | 27-10
  • Canadian Green MP warns against harsh anti-terror measures
    Canada’s Green Party has provided a welcome counterpoint to Prime Minister Harper’s call for tougher anti-terrorism laws in the wake of a soldier outside the Canadian Parliament. On October 22, while she was still locked in her parliamentary office, Green...
    The Daily Blog | 27-10
  • When is an asset sale not an asset sale? When it robs from the poor and ste...
    National have turned state housing on its head. At no time during the 2014 election did the Key Government even hint that they were going to privatise 30% of the Housing NZ stock of state homes. Not once. Key even...
    The Daily Blog | 27-10
  • Housing; broken promises, families in cars, and ideological idiocy (Part To...
    . . Continued from: Housing; broken promises, families in cars, and ideological idiocy (Part Rua) . Bill English comes clean on National’s intentions for HNZ privatisation . On 14 October, in a report on The Daily Blog, I wrote, In...
    The Daily Blog | 27-10
  • The Questions Have Been Asked – They Deserve An Answer
    A few days ago, allegations that had been percolating for some time about Hone Harawira employing three either accused or convicted sex offenders on his Parliamentary pay-roll came to light. (one imprisoned before working for MANA; one who found himself convicted and...
    The Daily Blog | 26-10
  • I have seen one future, and it is bleak
    . . Back in  March 2012, I wrote this story regarding a march to support striking workers at Ports of Auckland. It appears there was some prescience about some of my observations at the time… . | | 18 March...
    The Daily Blog | 26-10
  • US air strike war Key wants us in has killed a civilian a day so far
      The US air strike war that John Key wants us to join has killed a civilian a day so far. From the Washington Post... The United States launched its first airstrikes on militants in Syria on Sept. 23, and has continued...
    The Daily Blog | 26-10
  • The instant Jihad syndrome
    My favourite new term is ‘self-radicalised’ – it suggests the reasons for terrorism are totally divorced from the actions of the West. This need to suddenly ramp up terror laws because of lone wolf, self-radicalised Jihadists seems convenient and counter-productive....
    The Daily Blog | 25-10
  • We have nothing to fear from Ebola but fear itself
    I suspect most Americans perceive Ebola like this   I can’t work out if the fear being spread within the media about Ebola is deliberate or just ignorance. Yes Ebola is a terrible plague that kills a large percentage of...
    The Daily Blog | 25-10
  • GUEST BLOG: Anjum Rahman – “Meritocracy? I wish.”
    I’d like to start by linking to a post I had published at another site in support of Nanaia Mahuta for the Labour Party leadership election.  She has a reasonable chance, given that she already has the endorsement of Te...
    The Daily Blog | 25-10
  • Chocolate milk shortage and creepy Santa? Let’s talk about real news
    Child poverty is still a scarily serious problem in this country and house prices are soaring through the roof to the point where it is simply impossible for the average New Zealander to buy a home. There is also little...
    The Daily Blog | 25-10
  • It’s time to celebrate Kiwi schools and teachers
    Some would have you believe that New Zealand’s schools are in a state of collapse, that your children are not being educated well and that things are going to hell in a hand basket.  That there is no innovation, no...
    The Daily Blog | 25-10
  • Ideological Blitzkrieg – Privatization of state housing, more charter sch...
    Pundits in pundit land will tell you that this Government is boring, that Key is the great pragmatist and that it is his ability to create elegant solutions that keeps him the firm favourite in many Kiwi eyes. This ability...
    The Daily Blog | 24-10
  • Hegemony rules but resistance is fertile
    The Prime Minister is a puppet. Not just our current Prime Minister, but given the forces of multinational globalisation, the role of any head of state, is less as independent actor, and more as a puppet of international trends and...
    The Daily Blog | 24-10
  • An open Letter to Sir Bob Jones: demanding a ‘liveable wage’ is not “...
    How out of touch with reality is Sir Bob Jones? You know, that white dude who invested in privatised SOEs after the selling off of our assets in the eighties and made a ludicrous and disgusting amount of money and is...
    The Daily Blog | 24-10
  • My insecurity about the Security Council
    As I write this (on 24 October) it is international UN Day. Of course, you all knew that already, right? Well, the day celebrates the entry into force of the UN Charter in 1945. With the ratification of this founding...
    The Daily Blog | 24-10
  • GUEST BLOG: Catherine Delahunty – Back in That House
    Parliament opened this week and I still find it a very odd place. Most of the people are reasonably courteous and friendly, but the rituals are archaic and the rules around issues like the swearing in oath are oppressive and...
    The Daily Blog | 23-10
  • Marae Investigates No More
    TVNZ yesterday announced the closure of their Māori and Pacific programmes department. That means they’ve chosen to stop making Fresh, Tagata Pasifika, Waka Huia and Marae Investigates to let independent producers get their hands on these lucrative contracts. This is...
    The Daily Blog | 23-10
  • BLOGWATCH: An Un-Civil War in Labour, eh?
    Earlier today, my attention was directed to an entry that’s just recently appeared on the Slightly Left of Centre blog. It purports to contain the ‘inside word’ from a highly placed NZF source – which is funny, because I’m pretty sure...
    The Daily Blog | 23-10
  • Santanomics 101
    Santanomics could mean a number of things. It could be the study and practice of giving. Or it could mean the study and practice of rampant end-of-year commercialism. However, for me today it is the economics of erectingAuckland’s giant Santa...
    The Daily Blog | 23-10
  • SkyCity boss misleads public over workers lost shifts
    SkyCity CEO Nigel Morrison has defended the employment practices at his company in an “Opinion” piece entitled “Human Capital key to corporate success” in the NZ Herald on Thursday. A number of his claims are misleading, contain only partial truths...
    The Daily Blog | 23-10
  • Review: Perfect Place
    I went to a Perfect Place on Tuesday night, and what a delight it was. The marshmallows sweetly (and forcefully) handed out pre-show, set the tone for the next hour. Walking up the stairs at The Basement was a complete...
    The Daily Blog | 23-10
  • 5AA Australia – NZ on UN Security Council + Dirty Politics Lingers On
    5AA Australia: Selwyn Manning and Peter Godfrey deliver their weekly bulletin Across The Ditch. General round up of over night talkback issues: Thongs, Jandals and flip-flops… ISSUE 1: New Zealand has been successful in its campaign to become a non...
    The Daily Blog | 22-10
  • When I mean me, I mean my office & when I call whaleoil I mean not as m...
    This. Is. Ludicrous. Green Party co-leader Russel Norman put the first of what are likely to be many questions about Mr Key’s relationship with Slater, asking him how many times he had phoned or texted the blogger since 2008. “None...
    The Daily Blog | 22-10
  • A brief word on describing the Government as ‘boring and bland’
    The narrative being sown is that this Government will be a boring and bland third term. Boring and bland. Since the election, Key has announced he is privatising 30% of state houses without reinvesting any of that money back into housing society’s most...
    The Daily Blog | 22-10
  • More Latté Than Lager: Reflections on Grant Robertson’s Campaign Launch.
    BIKERS? SERIOUSLY! Had Grant Robertson’s campaign launch been organised by Phil Goff? Was this a pitch for the votes of what few Waitakere Men remain in the Labour Party? Was I even at the right place? Well, yes, I was....
    The Daily Blog | 22-10
  • About Curwen Ares Rolinson
    Curwen Ares Rolinson – Curwen Ares Rolinson is a firebrand young nationalist presently engaged in acts of political resistance deep behind enemy lines amidst the leafy boughs of Epsom. He is affiliated with the New Zealand First Party; although his...
    The Daily Blog | 21-10
  • About Kelly Ellis
    Kelly Ellis.Kelly Ellis – As a child, Kelly Ellis didn’t so much fall into the cracks, but willfully wriggled her way into them. Ejected from Onslow College – a big job in the 70s – Kelly worked in car factories,...
    The Daily Blog | 21-10
  • About Kate Davis
    Kate Davis.Kate Davis – Having completed her BA in English and Politics, Kate is now starting her MA. Kate works as a volunteer advocate at Auckland Action Against Poverty and previously worked for the New Zealand Prostitutes Collective. Kate writes...
    The Daily Blog | 21-10
  • Parker does a Shearer – oh for a Labour Leader who can challenge msm fals...
    Sigh. It seems David Parker has done a Shearer… Like a cult and too red – Parker on LabourLabour leadership contender David Parker says Labour borders on feeling like “a cult” and must look at its branding – including its...
    The Daily Blog | 21-10
  • A brief word on the hundreds of millions NZ is spending on the secret intel...
    The enormity of the mass surveillance state NZ Government’s have built carries a huge price tag… Kiwis pay $103m ‘membership fee’ for spyingThe $103 million taxpayer funding of New Zealand’s intelligence agencies is effectively a membership fee for joining the...
    The Daily Blog | 21-10
  • CTU Runanga calls on iwi leaders
    Maori workers are calling on iwi leaders to speak out against the employment law changes expected to go through today. “Iwi leaders have previously spoken out when workers in Aotearoa have been under attack, we believe they should do so...
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • Educating children not the best solution to alcohol harm
    Alcohol Healthwatch says we need to look beyond educating children and young people to address deeply embedded attitudes and behaviours concerning alcohol....
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • New code of welfare for rodeos released
    New standards to strengthen the animal welfare requirements for rodeos have been issued today by the Minister for Primary Industries, Nathan Guy....
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • IPCA report riddle with inaccuracies, say students
    A report by the Independent Police Conduct Authority into the policing of student protests in 2012 is riddled with inaccuracies, say students who laid the original complaint with the IPCA....
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • CT v The Queen – indecency convictions quashed
    This summary is provided to assist in the understanding of the Court’s judgment. It does not comprise part of the reasons for that judgment. The full judgment with reasons is the only authoritative document. The full text of the judgment...
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • Rameka v The Queen – murder convictions quashed
    This summary is provided to assist in the understanding of the Court’s judgment. It does not comprise part of the reasons for that judgment. The full judgment with reasons is the only authoritative document. The full text of the judgment...
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • Auckland Council Out of Control
    Responding to the NZ Herald article that some Auckland households will face a rates rise of up to 9.6 per cent next year, Taxpayers’ Union Executive Director Jordan Williams says: “Len Brown’s pledge to cap rates rises at 2.5 per...
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • Stats NZ staff escalate action with ‘no more meetings’ rule
    Statistics NZ staff have voted to escalate their ongoing industrial action in an effort to get Stats NZ back to the bargaining table with a reasonable offer. The staff, who are members of the Public Service Association (PSA), have been...
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • Rape Crisis calls for changes to criminal justice system
    Wellington Rape Crisis has added its voice to the public outcry following the announcement that there will be no charges in the teen rape gang case. Butterworth says the decision not to lay charges will not have been a surprise...
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • Police action justified in Blockade the Budget demonstration
    Police actions in dealing with a demonstration in Central Auckland known as Blockade the Budget on 1 June 2012 were justified and appropriate, an Independent Police Conduct Authority report released today found....
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • NZDF Joins with Australia to Commemorate WWI Centenary
    A contingent of New Zealand Defence Force (NZDF) personnel will join their Australian counterparts at Australia’s first major commemoration of the First World War centenary in Albany, Western Australia this weekend....
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • Reserve Bank should reduce interest rate
    “The Reserve Bank should be reducing its policy interest rate, the OCR”, says CTU Economist Bill Rosenberg in response to the Bank’s announcement today that it is not increasing it....
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • 2015 Stout Fellow will write about Māori & Criminal Justice
    Kim Workman, founder and advocate for the Robson Hanan Trust, which administers the Rethinking Crime and Punishment and Justspeak initiatives, has been awarded the 2015 John David Stout Fellowship at Victoria University....
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • What John Key thought about ‘dirty politics’
    On September 20, John Key swept to victory to become one of New Zealand’s most successful and popular Prime Ministers. Rocked by scandal, the 2014 election campaign was one of the most brutal – and riveting – in recent history....
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • Trade Deal Threatens Farmers and Food Businesses
    The secret Trans Pacific Partnership negotiations are a direct threat to food businesses and farmers, and a moratorium on the release of GE crops must be enshrined in law before the TPP is signed....
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • CTU announces election of new Secretary
    The contested election for the position of CTU Secretary has been won by Sam Huggard. Sam officially takes office on Monday 1 December 2014. Sam has worked in the union movement and brings a wealth of experience and a commitment...
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • Kim Workman awarded 2015 J.D. Stout Fellowship
    The Victoria University of Wellington 2015 J.D. Stout Fellowship, funded by the Stout Trust, has been awarded to justice reform advocate Kim Workman. Mr Workman (Ngati Kahungungu ki Wairarapa, Rangitaane) is well known for his work on criminal justice,...
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • TPPA causing concern
    Concern over the secretive Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement (TPPA) negotiations is being expressed in two public meetings over the next week; one at a presentation on 5th November by former councillor Robin Gwynn to the Napier City Council, the...
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • Kiwis rally to demand justice for ‘Roast Buster’ survivors
    Over 1,500 kiwis have rallied to demand justice after the announcement of the NZ Police decision not to lay charges in the ‘Roast Busters’ saga....
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • New employment law will hurt the most vulnerable NZers
    The Public Service Association (PSA) says changes to the Employment Relations Act, expected to be passed in Parliament tonight, will hurt vulnerable workers and their families more than anyone....
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • Consultation to close on proposed place names
    The New Zealand Geographic Board (NZGB) Ngā Pou Taunaha o Aotearoa today advised that only one month remains before public consultation closes for 18 name proposals for geographic features and places around Te Ika ā Māui (the North Island)....
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • Operation Clover – Statement from Police Commissioner
    I have taken a close interest in this investigation and I am confident police have conducted a thorough and professional enquiry in what has been a challenging and complex case. The Operation Clover team has ensured that victims have been...
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • Better policy would have protected children from recession
    Child Poverty Action Group says an international report released by UNICEF today shows good policy can protect and improve child well-being, even during a recession....
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • Outcome of Operation Clover investigation
    Police have completed a multi-agency investigation, Operation Clover, into the activities of a group calling themselves “The Roast Busters”. The 12 month enquiry focused on incidents involving allegations of sexual offending against a number of girls...
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • False birth registration brings home detention
    A Whangarei woman who attempted to register the birth of a fictitious child to claim a sole parent benefit was sentenced to six months home detention in the Whangarei District Court today....
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • Family of Robert Ellis demand a proper investigation
    The family of a New Zealander killed in Indonesia are growing increasingly concerned at the lack of information they’ve received, and the handling of the investigation into his murder....
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • Minister of Health must account for aged care workers’ pay
    The New Zealand Federation of Business and Professional Women (BPW NZ) congratulates rest-home worker Kristine Bartlett on her landmark claim for equal pay from her employer and successfully pursuing this to the Court of Appeal....
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • Labour leadership candidates in Invercargill
    The four candidates for Labour Leader – Andrew Little, Nanaia Mahuta, David Parker and Grant Robertson - will be in Invercargill on Friday evening for a Husting meeting with members, as part of fourteen Husting Meetings being held nationwide as...
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • Public now needs to have its say over new tolls
    “I welcome the likes of new tolls and fuel taxes going out for public consultation after these matters have been talked about for 20 years. However the timing is not ideal as it comes on top of the likes of...
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • Kiwis to fight back against TPPA ‘corporate trap’
    New Zealanders in at least sixteen different locations around the country are organising for an International Day of Action against the Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement (TPPA) on 8 November, co-ordinated by It's Our Future NZ. This is part of an international...
    Scoop politics | 28-10
  • Taxpayers’ Union Welcomes NZ First MP’s Resignation
    The Taxpayers’ Union is welcoming NZ First MP, Clayton Mitchell’s resignation from the Tauranga City Council, despite Party Leader Winston Peters' public comments in July that Mr Mitchell would do both jobs if elected to Parliament. The Union's...
    Scoop politics | 28-10
  • Stopping unnecessary roading projects solution to transport
    Today Auckland Council released the Funding Auckland’s Transport Future report which claims Aucklanders need to choose higher rates, petrol taxes or tolls to pay for future transport projects, when the real issue is the prioritisation of unnecessary...
    Scoop politics | 28-10
  • Fixing Auckland’s transport
    Today marks a critical step in the most important funding debate Auckland has ever had: whether or not Aucklanders are willing to pay for the transport system this city desperately needs to keep it moving, says Mayor Len Brown....
    Scoop politics | 28-10
  • The New Zealand Gazette Moves into the Digital Age
    On Monday 20 October, the New Zealand Gazette was published completely online bringing to a close 173 years as a purely printed publication. First published in 1841 as the official government newspaper, the Gazette website gazette.govt.nz , replaces...
    Scoop politics | 28-10
  • International report shows NZ struggling with child poverty
    A report by UNICEF International shows that child poverty rates in New Zealand have scarcely changed since 2008 – this stands in contrast to a number of other countries that managed to significantly reduce child poverty in this time, including...
    Scoop politics | 28-10
  • Labour leadership candidates in Dunedin
    The four candidates for Labour Leader – Andrew Little, Nanaia Mahuta, David Parker and Grant Robertson - will be in Dunedin on Thursday evening for a Husting meeting with members, as part of fourteen Husting Meetings being held nationwide as...
    Scoop politics | 28-10
  • UNICEF Report a Waste of Paper
    In response to the hysteria coming from the far left, Josh Forman of slightlyleftofcentre.co.nz writes the following:...
    Scoop politics | 28-10
  • Press Council opens doors to digital media
    The New Zealand Press Council, the body which handles complaints against newspapers and magazines and their websites, is offering associate membership status to news and commentary-oriented digital media including bloggers....
    Scoop politics | 28-10
  • Tolls Should Be for New Roads, Not Old Ones
    The Taxpayers’ Union is slamming Auckland Council for wanting to introduce a motorist tax under the guise of ‘tolls’. Taxpayers’ Union Executive Director, Jordan Williams, says:...
    Scoop politics | 28-10
  • Media freedom in West Papua: Protest at Indonesian embassy
    Today, Wednesday 29 October, there will be a peaceful protest at the Indonesian Embassy in Wellington to call on new Indonesian President Joko Widodo to honour his election promise to ensure greater media freedom in West Papua....
    Scoop politics | 28-10
  • Lack of leadership blamed for decline in Gender Equity
    BPW NZ challenges NZ’s lack of leadership with the decline in Gender Equity Ranking...
    Scoop politics | 28-10
  • Richard Falk visit to NZ
    Professor Richard Falk, who recently completed a six-year term as United Nations Special Rapporteur on Palestinian human rights, will deliver a public lecture in Dunedin on Monday 10 November....
    Scoop politics | 28-10
  • Apprehension for meat workers as employment law bill passes
    The passing of the Employment Relations Amendment Bill today will send a wave of apprehension through the workers in the NZ meat industry says the Meat Workers Union....
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  • “Yes to Children, No to Poverty” Says Commissioner
    Children’s Commissioner, Dr Russell Wills will describe impacts of poverty on children, with a focus on local solutions at the Tū Kaha biennial conference for Māori health for the central region DHBs at the Hawke’s Bay Racing Centre in Hastings...
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  • UNICEF report card highlights need for action
    Unicef’s child poverty report released today shows that New Zealand needs to be more proactive in pursuing policies to protect our most vulnerable members of society....
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  • Children of the Recession: NZ’s shame
    Children of the Recession : NZ’s shame Media release Wednesday 29 October 2014 “It is to New Zealand’s deepest shame that the latest Unicef report on children living in poverty ranks us 16th out of 41 developed countries. “Every day...
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  • UNICEF cautions NZ child poverty rates are “stagnating”
    An international report by UNICEF has found that child poverty rates in New Zealand have barely changed since 2008, despite similar sized countries significantly reducing child poverty during the recent recession....
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  • TPP Too Important for Compromised Finish
    The New Zealand dairy industry is urging Trans Pacific Partnership (TPP) partners not to compromise on the quality of the deal to get it done quickly....
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  • Labour leadership candidates in Nelson
    Labour leadership candidates in Nelson The four candidates for Labour Leader – Andrew Little, Nanaia Mahuta, David Parker and Grant Robertson - will be in Nelson on Tuesday evening for a Husting meeting with members, as part of fourteen Husting...
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  • History is made. Equal pay not just legal but possible!
    The New Zealand Nurses Organisation (NZNO) congratulates Kristine Bartlett and the Service and Food Workers Union: Ngā Ringa Tota on their historic win. Today the Court of Appeal dismissed an appeal from Kristine’s employer; opening the way for...
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