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Bryce Edwards needs to find a clue

Written By: - Date published: 1:04 pm, September 13th, 2013 - 22 comments
Categories: blogs, leadership - Tags: , ,

Of all the self-hating “Lefties” who comment on politics, Bryce Edwards has got to be one of the worst. Here’s a gem from his latest NZ Politics Daily:

Blogs have, of course, weighed in heavily on Labour’s contest. Traditionally The Standard has been the main leftwing site to watch, and it now strongly favours Cunliffe. Until recently the main blogger on the site was Anthony Robins, who pushed a resolutely pro-Shearer/ABC line. Robins, who happens to be the brother of Labour’s chief media spindoctor Julian Robins, departed the site after Shearer was pushed out of the leadership, leaving the ‘Cunliffistas’ in control of The Standard.

I just sent Bryce the following email:

Honestly Bryce – you are so full of crap it’s unbelievable!

My comments on Labour leadership have been few and muted (for obvious reasons), and I am certainly not ABC:
http://thestandard.org.nz/2c-on-the-leadership/

I request that you publish a retraction.

Cheers
Anthony

My break from The Standard is for health and work reasons. As you can see, I’m not “departed”, and I have every expectation of being back to writing next year to help Labour’s new leader to victory in 2014. Honestly Bryce – please find a clue.

Update: Bryce Edwards has kindly agreed to delete from The Herald version of the relevant post the sentences describing me as “ABC”. For the record once again, I am not, and if anyone has any doubts on that matter could they please read my post on the previous Labour leadership battle linked in the email above, where I came down in the Cunliffe camp. I now regard this matter as closed, and I’m switching off comments on this post. Thanks Bryce for the correction, and thanks all for your support. Now – back to work…

22 comments on “Bryce Edwards needs to find a clue”

  1. just saying 1

    Bryce – what utter bollocks.

    If you want to use the search engine, you can read threads of commentary from the Standard community on your repeated errors of both fact and interpretation regarding this site.

    Ever heard of the confirmation bias? Not a good look for an academic.

  2. Bryce Edwards 2

    Here’s the full column, if anyone’s interested:

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=11124244

    [r0b: Releasing this from moderation. No response to my email yet Bryce…]

    • Sable 2.1

      Given you write for the NZ Herald I wouldn’t trust anything you have to say chum.

    • beGone Craven Spy Bill leopard 2.2

      @Bryce Edward,
      It is bizarre that you seem to think sharing the link to your article is an appropriate answer to what R0b writes here. The section of your article that R0b has pointed out re his stance seems plain wrong to me from having read many of R0b’s articles.

      ??

      Were you simply after hits to the herald website? Do you get bonuses per hit or something?

      One only usually has to spend a few minutes doing a search on this site to see the persuasion of a writer. How could you get it so wrong?

    • the pigman 2.3

      Thanks for the link, Bryce. I thought your column was ill-founded rubbish but it did have a link to an interesting article by Chris Trotter.

      Still claiming the LP leadership is a stitch up with DC for leader and GR for deputy? Let’s hope so.

  3. BLiP 3

    . . . Until recently the main blogger on the site was Anthony Robins, who pushed a resolutely pro-Shearer/ABC line . . .

    You know, if you’re a political analyst AND you comment about the political blogosphere, wouldn’t it be a good idea to actually, you know, read the blog you are commenting about? Just askin’.

  4. mickysavage 4

    Wow.

    I always thought your views were considered and carefully expressed. And there is no way that you could be described as being pro ABC.

    Edwards description is overhyped. The leadership tour has been a positive uniting experience and my perception is that the morale of the party has lifted considerably. This hyping up of a supposed civil war is just silly.

    Stand by though as the right wing blogs Edwards’ comments up …

    • David H 4.1

      With all this ABC crap Cant the Lec’s say Thanks but No thanks to them,or do they have to get voted out?

    • r0b 4.2

      I have always been respectful and supportive of the Labour leader – Clark, Goff, Shearer – I’ll be respectful and supportive of the next one too. That’s what I do.

      To paint me as ABC is just part of Edwards’ dishonest narrative building style, and it is most inconsiderate to my brother (who has only been in that role for a few months) to boot.

      • karol 4.2.1

        Also, why does Edwards assume that you are your brother’s keeper?

        I respect my brother who is a very kind individual, but our politics are very different.

      • lprent 4.2.2

        I have always been respectful and supportive of the Labour leader…

        You sure have. Unfortunately I don’t have your patience….

        Ummm interesting that I can still leave comments.

  5. stever 5

    I think Edwards is a good example of what happens when academics forget their role in society and start thinking like (NZ) journalists. Cherry-pick, sensationalise and use hyperbole.

    Admittedly NZ academia is going that way too under pressure from govt and the funding bodies, but it’s sad to see someone give in so easily.

  6. bad12 6

    Bryce Edwards left wing??? that deserves to have us all giggling, it’s pretty obvious that any left wing tendencies that that particular individual might have once possessed have been jettisoned quick smart by Edwards, i would assume at the behest of His pay-masters over at the Herald,

    Like a running dog Bryce will bark long and loud as He chases the bone that is the job currently occupied by John Armstrong, comparing both their writing in that rag i can barely spot the difference…

    • Greywarbler 6.1

      Spot the Running Dog – a new chapter in the Edwards juvenile oeuvre. 😆

      Is there any connection between Bryce Edwards and Brian Edwards?
      Of all the surnames in all the towns of the world, why do two political journos have to have the same surname!

    • Bearded Git 6.2

      You beat me to it bad12. I think BE likes his status as the Herald’s political commentator and may well have been “given the nod” when old-man Armstrong finally calls it a day (anybody able to find out how old he is? Judges have to retire at 70) but the “nod” will come with subtle (or not so subtle) pressure from the editor to toe-the-line….show so-called balance……reflect the Herald’s view of the world.

  7. gobsmacked 7

    “who happens to be the brother of Labour’s chief media spindoctor Julian Robins”

    If Bryce is going to go down that path, then there’s a long list of relationships in Wellington that readers would need to be told about, every time he blogs. Blood or bed.

    I’m not going to list them here, I think there’s there’s a clear line between disclosure and innuendo. Bryce might want to think a little about which side of the line he stands.

  8. Anne 8

    Edwards description is overhyped.

    I’ve had enough of these political commentators and journos who have consistently over-hyped every mortal action or word that comes out of Labour. It seems to me it has become a gladiator sport where nearly every Tom, Dick and Harry journo/commentator is getting in on the act because they think it’s the *right* thing to do. I was reading Colin Espiner’s latest diatribe and he totally misconstrued the Clare Curran nonsense. He chose to portray Curran as the injured party, and blatantly claimed Jenny Michie was the one who was dog-whistling… and that the Cunliffe camp was behind it. No attempt by him to properly investigate (eg. listen to the Rachel Smalley interview) the circumstances around Jenny’s comment, and the fact it happened before the contest even began and the actual contestants were not known.

    And r0b’s choice to have a break from blogging was fully revealed by him on this site in a clear and honest way. We look forward to him returning when his health issues have been sorted.

  9. Stephen 9

    I think a big issue here is that “ABC” is not the same as preferring Grant. I myself am an “ABJ” and will happily work hard for either of the other two.

  10. Blue 10

    Like most online jonolism the column was likely written in haste and not edited or fact-checked in any way. It also uses the time-honoured jonolist technique of presenting opinions as facts and not taking much care when forming said opinions.

    How anyone who reads the Standard regularly could think Anthony is pro-ABC is impossible to credit. In fact, it’s only really possible if the person is a) a bit thick and b) is so lazy they automatically lump anyone who didn’t totally dismiss Shearer into the ‘pro-ABC’ movement.

    This entire leadership contest has been characterised by a lazy media who can’t be bothered finding out the facts when an ill-informed opinion will do.

  11. r0b 11

    Folks – I’m closing comments on this thread, as noted in the post update above.

    Thanks all…

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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago
  • An abuse of the Speaker’s chair
    Last week NewsHub revealed leaked MPI reports which showed that MPI had been turning a blind eye to widespread criminal behaviour in the fishing industry. Today was the first day of Parliament since those revelations, and given their seriousness, it… ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago
  • Punakaiki Fund invests in Populate
    Crosspost from Punakaiki Fund. New Investment: Populate One of our core motivations at Punakaiki Fund is being able to help and watch companies create a large number of sustainable new jobs. And one of the best people around at hiring… ...
    Lance WiggsBy Lance Wiggs
    2 days ago

  • How the budget fails new New Zealanders
    Greens co-leader James Shaw was absolutely correct to say the 2016 budget is just papering over the cracks. There’s nothing in this budget to increase wages, address inequal pay for carers or deal with the shocking pay rates and employment… ...
    GreensBy Denise Roche
    4 hours ago
  • Parents will pay more as school budgets frozen
    Parents will pay more for their kids’ education as a result of this year’s Budget after the Government froze operational funding for schools, Labour’s Education spokesperson Chris Hipkins says. “This means schools are effectively going backwards. They will need to… ...
    6 hours ago
  • Sticking Plaster Budget fails the test
    Bill English’s penultimate Budget fails to tackle the structural challenges facing the economy – a housing crisis, rising unemployment, underfunded health and creaking infrastructure, says Labour’s Finance spokesperson Grant Robertson. “This Budget applies a sticking plaster to a compound fracture.… ...
    7 hours ago
  • John Key fails middle New Zealand with no fix for housing crisis, more underfunding of health
    Middle New Zealand has again missed out in this year’s Budget with not a single fix for the housing crisis, and health and education woefully underfunded again, Leader of the Opposition Andrew Little says. “This Budget is just a patchwork… ...
    7 hours ago
  • Labour Bill would back Kiwi jobs
    The Government’s $40 billion of buying power would go towards backing Kiwi businesses and jobs under a Labour Member’s Bill which will be debated by Parliament, Leader of the Opposition Andrew Little says. “My Bill – which was pulled from… ...
    9 hours ago
  • Julie Anne Genter: My Budget 2016 wish is fairness
    When my parents first visited me in Auckland ten years ago, they remarked on how there were no homeless people on the streets. Coming from Los Angeles, they were used to seeing the impacts of horrendous inequality and a lack… ...
    GreensBy Julie Anne Genter
    11 hours ago
  • Steffan Browning: Pesticide reduction and Organic Growth Strategy in Budget 2016
    Pesticide reduction The Budget is an opportunity for the Government to launch a pesticide reduction strategy that multiplies the Environmental Protection Authority’s (EPA) and the Ministry for Primary Industries’ capacity to reassess pesticides and other toxins.  The Agricultural Compounds and… ...
    GreensBy Steffan Browning
    12 hours ago
  • Steffan Browning: Pesticide reduction and Organic Growth Strategy in Budget 2016
    Pesticide reduction The Budget is an opportunity for the Government to launch a pesticide reduction strategy that multiplies the Environmental Protection Authority’s (EPA) and the Ministry for Primary Industries’ capacity to reassess pesticides and other toxins.  The Agricultural Compounds and… ...
    GreensBy Steffan Browning
    12 hours ago
  • Minister won’t fess up on wrong figures
    The Minister of Health was caught out telling porkies in Parliament today when he was asked about the number of people getting access to mental health and addiction services, says Labour’s Health spokesperson Annette King. ...
    1 day ago
  • Budget 2016 and our LGBTQI communities
    LGBTI people make up about a tenth of our population, and our communities face a unique set of needs and challenges. These challenges are caused or exacerbated by discrimination, invisibility and barriers to appropriate support. We have a long way… ...
    GreensBy Jan Logie
    1 day ago
  • Budget 2016 and our LGBTQI communities
    LGBTI people make up about a tenth of our population, and our communities face a unique set of needs and challenges. These challenges are caused or exacerbated by discrimination, invisibility and barriers to appropriate support. We have a long way… ...
    GreensBy Jan Logie
    1 day ago
  • Scrambled announcement policy on the hoof
    Paula Bennett’s scrambled desperate announcement that she will pay homeless people to move to the regions is just the latest evidence of the disarray this Government’s housing policy is in, Leader of the Opposition Andrew Little says. “This is policy… ...
    1 day ago
  • Police Minister admits resolution rates fall short of expectation
    Police Minister Judith Collins has admitted in Parliament current burglary resolution rates are not meeting the expectations of our communities, says Labour’s Police spokesman Stuart Nash “Out of 284 police stations in New Zealand in 2015, 24 stations recorded zero… ...
    1 day ago
  • Mojo Mathers: A better deal for animals in Budget 2016
    Currently we are failing animals in NZ. On the face of it farmed and domestic animals in this country have strong legal protection from abuse, cruelty and neglect. In reality it seems that only the very worst, most extreme cases… ...
    GreensBy Mojo Mathers
    1 day ago
  • Metiria Turei: What we need from Budget 2016
    Every family deserves a warm decent home.  Everyone believes that. This housing crisis is just the latest consequence of a Government who puts the interests of the few wealthy people above the needs of NZ families.  Families are doing it… ...
    GreensBy Metiria Turei
    1 day ago
  • Dairy exports fall of 11%: Budget action on diversification needed
    Dairy exports have fallen 11 per cent compared to this time last year, a fall of almost $1.5b, showing the Government must take clear action on diversifying the economy in tomorrow’s Budget, says Labour’s Trade and Export Growth spokesperson David… ...
    1 day ago
  • Investors driving families out of homes in South and West Auckland
    Investors cashing in on skyrocketing Auckland house prices are driving families out of homes in South and West Auckland and causing homeownership rates in some of our poorest suburbs to plummet, Labour’s Housing spokesperson Phil Twyford says. “New analysis shows… ...
    2 days ago
  • Budget must deliver on paid parental leave
    Budget 2016 must deliver 26 weeks paid parental leave by April 2018 – anything less will be short-changing families, says Labour MP Sue Moroney. “My Bill which is before Parliament this afternoon has majority support and does just that. I… ...
    2 days ago
  • Key’s “brain fart” on tax cuts news to English
    John Key didn’t tell his own Finance Minister he was about to go on radio and announce he wanted $3b of tax cuts, just days after Bill English ruled them out, says Labour’s Finance spokesperson Grant Robertson. “In Parliament today… ...
    2 days ago
  • What I’m looking for in Budget 2016 – A better start for our tamariki
    Ensuring the best start for our tamariki is a priority for me in everything I do. And so in Budget 2016, my first budget as an MP, I looking for the Government to make a real investment in the wellbeing… ...
    GreensBy Marama Davidson
    2 days ago
  • What I’m looking for in Budget 2016 – A better start for our tamariki
    Ensuring the best start for our tamariki is a priority for me in everything I do. And so in Budget 2016, my first budget as an MP, I looking for the Government to make a real investment in the wellbeing… ...
    GreensBy Marama Davidson
    2 days ago
  • Denise Roche: What I’m looking for in Budget 2016 Pt II
    Aotearoa’s new New Zealanders,  come to our country in vulnerable position: – often away from the culture, communities and families they know, sometimes in neighbourhoods without familiar faces and often encountering barriers to employment. With net migration at 50,000+ a… ...
    GreensBy Denise Roche
    3 days ago
  • Equal Pay and Budget 2016
    The last few years we’ve seen equal pay for women flagged as an undefined risk in the budget. This year we should expect to see this, as well as budgeted money to deliver equal pay to caregivers and funding for,… ...
    GreensBy Jan Logie
    3 days ago
  • Equal Pay and Budget 2016
    The last few years we’ve seen equal pay for women flagged as an undefined risk in the budget. This year we should expect to see this, as well as budgeted money to deliver equal pay to caregivers and funding for,… ...
    GreensBy Jan Logie
    3 days ago
  • A great Budget would
    A great Budget would embrace the challenge of our polluted rivers and move the money away from justifying the status quo water rules into cleaning up waterways. A great Budget would take the Ministry for the Environment freshwater budget and… ...
    GreensBy Catherine Delahunty
    3 days ago
  • Budget building materials policy backfires
    On the eve of this year’s Budget official figures show Nick Smith’s Budget 2014 centrepiece to reduce the cost of building materials has backfired, says Labour’s Housing spokesperson Phil Twyford. “Ministry of Business, Innovation and Employment officials have spent the… ...
    3 days ago
  • Smarter, Better, Cleaner, Stronger
    This Thursday Bill English will deliver his eighth Budget. Will it continue the trend of previous National budgets, making tertiary education less affordable, putting only token funds into innovation, and subsidising polluters? Budgets aren’t what they used to be. Once… ...
    GreensBy Gareth Hughes
    3 days ago
  • Govt must come clean on tax cuts in Budget
    National is making a mockery of the Budget process by dangling the promise of tax cuts but failing to include them in the Budget, says Labour’s Finance spokesperson Grant Robertson. “National’s tax cut promises have turned into a farce. One… ...
    4 days ago
  • Grant Robertson Pre-Budget Speech
    Today I want to talk about success. As we know success can come in many different forms, from the fact you all made it here at such an early hour on a Monday, for which I am very grateful, to… ...
    4 days ago
  • Budget must deliver for middle New Zealand
    The Government must ensure next week’s Budget stops the squeeze on middle New Zealand and delivers shared prosperity for all New Zealanders, Leader of the Opposition Andrew Little says. The call follows new research commissioned by Labour that shows working… ...
    4 days ago
  • Our housing emergency – why we have to act
    Marama and Metiria at Homes Not Cars launch On Thursday, Metiria Turei announced the Green Party’s plan to start addressing the emergency housing crisis facing our country. Too many people are without homes right now – homeless. It is the… ...
    GreensBy Marama Davidson
    5 days ago
  • Will funding boost for sexual violence services go to the right places?
    This week the Government announced $46million for sexual violence services. This announcement was a result of decades of work by advocates and everyone who submitted to the Select Committee inquiry into funding for sexual violence services that I initiated with… ...
    GreensBy Jan Logie
    6 days ago
  • Will funding boost for sexual violence services go to the right places?
    This week the Government announced $46million for sexual violence services. This announcement was a result of decades of work by advocates and everyone who submitted to the Select Committee inquiry into funding for sexual violence services that I initiated with… ...
    GreensBy Jan Logie
    6 days ago
  • Denise Roche – What I’m looking for in this year’s Budget
    Two of the things I’ll be looking for in the Budget next week are more funding for refugees and for our arts and culture sector. More funding for refugees I’m a strong supporter of the #DoubleTheQuota campaign and its goals… ...
    GreensBy Denise Roche
    6 days ago
  • Denise Roche – What I’m looking for in this year’s Budget
    Two of the things I’ll be looking for in the Budget next week are more funding for refugees and for our arts and culture sector. More funding for refugees I’m a strong supporter of the #DoubleTheQuota campaign and its goals… ...
    GreensBy Denise Roche
    6 days ago
  • Car rego victims must get a refund
    Motorists who have been overcharged for their car registration should get a refund, says Labour’s Transport spokesperson Sue Moroney.  “Minister Nikki Kaye’s ‘faulty risk’ rating scheme has blown up in her face with over 170 different models of car having… ...
    6 days ago
  • Council statement shows they just don’t get it
    The Auckland Council’s statement today shows they don’t understand the problems created by the urban growth boundary, says Labour’s housing spokesperson Phil Twyford.  “I have been the first to defend the Auckland City Council when Bill English has been blaming… ...
    6 days ago
  • Inspecting electronic devices a potential privacy threat
    Labour is expressing concern for New Zealanders’ privacy rights as the Government signals Customs will have the power to inspect electronic devices coming across the border, says Labour’s Customs Spokesperson Rino Tirikatene. “We agree that customs officers should have the… ...
    6 days ago
  • The Price of Water
    This week I hosted a public meeting at EIT in Hawkes Bay to discuss how we might put a price on the commercial use of water, so that water may be valued and treated more sustainably. I invited a… ...
    GreensBy Catherine Delahunty
    7 days ago
  • Caption It NZ!
    Today I received a petition from the NZ Captioning Working Group urging the government to legislate for accessibility via closed captioning for deaf and hard of hearing New Zealanders. It was timely because today is the fifth Global Accessibility Awareness… ...
    GreensBy Mojo Mathers
    1 week ago
  • Older Kiwis to miss out on electives
    The Government is not doing enough elective surgery to keep up with New Zealand’s ageing population, says Labour’s Health spokesperson Annette King.  “It’s damning that the targeted national intervention rate for cataract and knee and hip surgery is the same… ...
    1 week ago
  • Most principals say their college is underfunded
    The Government must substantially increase funding for secondary schools in next week’s Budget after a new survey found 86 per cent of principals consider their college under-resourced, Labour’s Education spokesperson Chris Hipkins says. “Just 14 per cent of secondary principals… ...
    1 week ago
  • Bill English and Nick Smith on different pages
    The Government’s support for Labour’s policy to remove the Auckland urban growth boundary is good news, but National needs to clarify its position, Labour’s Housing and Auckland Issues spokesperson Phil Twyford says. “The Acting Prime Minister has acknowledged our position… ...
    1 week ago
  • Bill English and Nick Smith on different pages
    The Government’s support for Labour’s policy to remove the Auckland urban growth boundary is good news, but National needs to clarify its position, Labour’s Housing and Auckland Issues spokesperson Phil Twyford says. “The Acting Prime Minister has acknowledged our position… ...
    1 week ago
  • Labour calls for independent inquiry into illegal fish dumping
    The Labour Party is reiterating its call for an independent inquiry into New Zealand’s fishing industry after two reports revealed the Ministry for Primary Industries turned a blind eye to widespread fish dumping in New Zealand waters, says Labour’s Fisheries… ...
    1 week ago
  • Mt Karangahake and Newcrest Mining
    On Wednesday and Sunday of last week the local residents of the Karangahake mountain in the Karangahake gorge of Hauraki/Coromandel peacefully protested against a gold mining drill rig on private land adjacent to the DOC land. The drilling rig was… ...
    GreensBy Catherine Delahunty
    1 week ago
  • Robbing Aucklanders to pay Rio Tinto
    New Zealand’s national electricity grid stretches the length of the country and contains some 11,803 kilometres of high-voltage lines and 178 substations. It wouldn’t make sense for competing power companies to duplicate and build their own expensive electricity transmission system… ...
    GreensBy Gareth Hughes
    1 week ago
  • Government should abolish Auckland urban growth boundary
    The Government should rule out any possibility of an urban growth boundary in Auckland Council’s Unitary Plan if it is serious about fixing the housing crisis, says Labour’s Housing spokesperson Phil Twyford. “Over 25 years the urban growth boundary hasn’t… ...
    1 week ago
  • Kiwis don’t want iPads for Land deals
     It is outrageous that schools are relying on money and iPads from foreign land investors to meet the learning needs of their students, says Labour’s Education spokesperson Chris Hipkins.  “Several OIO land applications by offshore investors have claimed that without… ...
    1 week ago
  • Homelessness – National has failed all of us
    A young South Auckland Māori woman recently tried to get hold of me around midnight. I missed her call. The woman wanted me to know the sharp reality facing too many families looking for a stable place to live. Things… ...
    GreensBy Marama Davidson
    1 week ago

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