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Cam Slater: politely being called a lying arsehole

Written By: - Date published: 2:28 am, October 22nd, 2013 - 127 comments
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I’ve been trying to think of a way of expressing my complete and utter distaste for the arsehole of the local blogs and politics. But someone beat me to it. Hamish Price has been attacked in the usual way by Cameron Slater. I’d guess it is because he doesn’t want to play politics in the dirty and disgusting way that Cam thinks it should be played. Here is his facebook statement in response to something I haven’t seen in the sewer.

This rings quite true to me from what I know of the people and timelines. In fact I’d say that it is one of the few truthful statements made in this sorry saga. It has been evident for some time that the amount of deliberate lying by the Palino team is approaching critical mass proportions. Cameron Slater of course would refuse to acknowledge The Truth is the last news spike from that sad rag penetrated to the peanut that he uses in his occasional excursions to rational thought.

But have fun reading this…. I know I did.  I even altered the banner to paraphrase a Pratchett joke while I was waiting for a server upgrade.

Hamish Price gets a bit testy with both Slaters and John Palino.

Just as a counterpoint to Cameron Slater’s statement over the weekend on The Nation where he said

Slater: Well, Auckland politics is like where any politics is, in that it’s a dirty, disgusting, despicable game. And it involves dirty, disgusting despicable people at all levels.  And to have this sort of high and mighty belief that New Zealand politics is clean, isn’t.

Only a complete political dickhead would think that. It speaks of the approach of an amateur who is too busy grasping at small victories to seek the larger ones. Politics is almost invariably a generational process when the political system is operating reasonably well and the political and economic changes aren’t jammed up. If the political system is doing its job then revolutionary changes are not required and the grubby style of politics that attracts scavenging maggots like Cameron Slater isn’t used much.

Chasing the dirt on people in the way that Cameron Slater does simply builds up a wellspring of distrust.  But politics and political change depends on a level of mutual respect and trust between people, if only so the changes that are brought in aren’t summarily chucked out by the other side as soon as they get a chance. You don’t have to look far to see this amongst politicians and activists. Looking at the videos of Mapp and Kelsey last week arguing about the TPPA is a pretty good demonstration of the way that politics actually works.

In my experience it is only the politically toxic and ineffective who think as Cameron thinks if only because they can’t work with others in anything more than a scavenger pack mode fighting over left-over offal and other peoples misery. Such hyenas become permanently politically toxic and slowly sidelined by those of us who have to work in the real worlds of business and politics. Even as rampant an individualistic and abrasive eccentric as I have been for most of my life recognises that.

But more importantly you don’t get things actually being done if you act like the moronic dickhead with a head trauma like Cameron has been doing for many years. Trying to shift things by fear may be all that the fool knows. But it isn’t effective in shifting the culture. For that you have to carry people with you. And the noisy but small minority that carefully cluster behind Cameron are neither smart enough nor socially aware enough to do anything of value for anyone else. They’re just parasites of society.

But of course there are many countries where toxic politics are the norm, mainly because they have rather bankrupted both their political and economic systems. The USA and Italy come to mind. As well as the refugees from those countries (it is noticeable the number of Americans we’re seeing moving here at present)  we also seen some of the dregs and their tactics…

But if politically toxic is where Cam has finally made it to, he has dragged or been dragged by Cook, Palino, Wewege, and probably others.

My main interest is he has succeeded in making me lose a bet I made back in 2008. He should have held out for another two years. I figured that he’d be useful to someone in National’s internal factionalism after the next election. But he was never particularly patient. As has been shown by the incompetence of this particular bit of political threatre. Imagine what someone like Winston Peters could have done with it drawing out the pain. But of course Winston isn’t a complete arsehole like Cameron, so he’d never have done shat on peoples lives for such a petty matter anyway.

127 comments on “Cam Slater: politely being called a lying arsehole”

  1. Gruntie 1

    Why doesn’t someone sue Whale Fat for slander – I’m willing to donate $100 to the legal fund

    • chris73 1.1

      Possibly because everyone involved knows you’d then have to prove it in court? Much cheaper and less burden of proof to stick to the court of popular opinion I’m guessing…

      • karol 1.1.1

        So it’s just the costs that are causing people to sit on some details in a Chuang affadavit? Russel Brown:

        I have a copy of the second Chuang affadavit, the one that seems to land John Palino squarely in the middle of the plot. There’s more in it than has been reported so far, which I suspect is partly because she directly attributes words to both Slater and Palino that could constitute grounds for a criminal prosecution. They have both denied its contents. Stephen Cook’s she-was-totally-up-for-it version of his interactions with Chuang is contradicted by her account of him demanding to know only the most salacious detals: how was Brown in bed? What’s his penis size? Journalists have been left with a situation in which no one can truly be regarded as reliable witness.

        Or maybe it’s just that it will take more time checking out all the contradictory stories?

        There does seem to be grounds for a prosecution, especially with what Price has posted publicly. Price will know what hes doing, and he is pointing out to Slater et all, that he knows a lot of details that would damn them in a court of law.

        • mickysavage 1.1.1.1

          Yep I have seen the affidavit. The B word is mentioned a couple of times. The Herald was not prepared to repeat this but the SST did in its editorial on Sunday which I can’t find on line.

          • karol 1.1.1.1.1

            Thanks for the tip, micky. Just read the SST editorial on Press display. Extracts:

            His wife and children may disagree but right now the only person in the Len Brown imbroglio who seems trustworthy is Len Brown.
            […]
            The new text messages released by Stephen Cook , who broke the story, indicate that Chuang was part of a plan to bring down Brown, to smear him enough to make him unelectable.

            The roles played in this by Auckland mayoral contender John Palino, his campaign manager john Slater, Slater’s son Cameron, Palino campaign team member Luigi Wewege (allegedly Chuang’s other lover) and Chuang herself seem, on the surface, to be far more worthy of investigation than where and when Brown and Chuang had sex or what sort of underwear Brown bought his mistress. The Palino Camp’s orchestrated campaign was designed to force Brown to quit the mayoralty but Brown called his bluff, confessed to his wife, and stayed on.
            […]

            Those manipulating and encouraging Chuang to dish dirt on Brown should exit politics in disgrace as their tactics are effectively blackmail.
            […]

            The whole thing is like a plot from a movie about ham-fisted conspirators with half a plan and no idea of how to carry it out.

            – Sunday Star Times editorial, 20 Oct 2013, p A15

            • tinfoilhat 1.1.1.1.1.1

              “His wife and children may disagree but right now the only person in the Len Brown imbroglio who seems trustworthy is Len Brown”

              Really ? Is Len Brown ghost writing for the Sunday Star Times ?

              Facts are Len brown behaved abominably and looks like he’ll stay on as auckland mayor regardless of his behaviour hopefully he’ll be kicked out next time round and we’ll have a credible and respectable left wing candidate voted in.

              All the other characters are a sideshow and the blog and political war of personalities seems to be a case of multiple pots calling each other various shades of black a pox on all their houses.

              • Draco T Bastard

                Facts are Len brown behaved abominably

                That’s not a fact, just your opinion and one backed up more, IMO, by you hatred of Brown than anything else.

                All the other characters are a sideshow
                Nope, the other actors have proven themselves completely untrustworthy by their actions and lies.

                • greywarbler

                  All the other characters are a sideshow and the blog and political war of personalities seems to be a case of multiple pots calling each other various shades of black a pox on all their houses.

                  It’s a Punch and Judy show folks. The traditional sideshow complete with a Policeman with a very long truncheon to give good measure.
                  ‘Now clear the way people, return to your homes, nothing to see here.’

                • tinfoilhat

                  “That’s not a fact, just your opinion and one backed up more, IMO, by you hatred of Brown than anything else.”

                  I had reflected on the whether it was the behaviour or the person that was affecting my opinion and thought whether my opinion would change if the behaviour was attached to my political preference and I can assure you it would not.

              • Hanswurst

                I disagree. Neither do I see Len Brown as a particularly left-wing candidate, nor do I see how an extramarital affair affects his ability to be mayor. Similarly, if such a fate had befallen a more decidedly right-wing candidate such as John Banks or Christine Fletcher, I’d have been vocally opposing their policies while resoundingly failing to give a shit where or with whom they slept.

                • tinfoilhat

                  “Neither do I see Len Brown as a particularly left-wing candidate”

                  Oh I agree completely he’s more to the right than the left and will change his story depending on which groups he’s talking to.

                  I also agree that an extramarital affair in and of itself is not of itself a hangable offence but having conducted it on council premises and time is very poor and the possibility of further impropriety/favourtism in terms of freebies and favours is very bad.

            • Rhinocrates 1.1.1.1.1.2

              “It was worse than a crime; it was a blunder.”

              And for historical pedants (like me):

              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Antoine,_Duke_of_Enghien

              [On Napoleon's execution of duc d'Enghien] Either Antoine Boulay de la Meurthe[3] (deputy from Meurthe in the Corps législatif) or Napoleon’s chief of police, Joseph Fouché,[4] said about his execution “C’est pire qu’un crime, c’est une faute”, a statement often rendered in English as “It was worse than a crime; it was a blunder.” The statement is also sometimes attributed to French diplomat Charles Maurice de Talleyrand-Périgord. Sometimes the quote is given as, “It was worse than a crime; it was a mistake.”

    • ghostwhowalksnz 1.2

      He has no assets ?

    • AsleepWhileWalking 1.3

      I’ll donate! If nothing else I’m sure I’ll get my monies worth through entertainment value alone.

    • Murray Olsen 1.4

      Probably because he’s got no worthwhile income and would have all his assets protected in some sort of trusts. The case would be easy to prove, but collecting on any judgment would be difficult.

      What would be more interesting would be to take him to court with a view to seeking a penalty along the lines of what was served up to Derryn Hinch. He was banned from accessing the internet for a period. Now, if someone can come up with a plan with a reasonable chance of success to achieve that, I’d certainly help with funding it.

  2. tc 2

    Good points and yet again the hollowmen show the depth of talent they draw on to get what they want.

    Slater, banks etc were all needed at some point but unlike the likes of farrar who keeps his cool and doesnt bite the hand that feeds whereas cameron needs help/therapy on a few fronts.

  3. geoff 3

    Wow, the National Party is imploding.

  4. Tracey 4

    I posted last week on narcissistic personality. Slater fits so many traits. I have always struggled to understand how someone with a mental illness expects to find health and peace embroiling themselves in a hate filled vitiolic site like wo and the vengeful way he pursues his ideology.

    brett dale disputes he is narcissistic. I stand by it. His use and abuse of people to achieve his own engrandisement shows little or no empathy.

    • Rhinocrates 4.1

      I could recommend a psychiatrist. Unfortunately he lives in Baltimore but he does throw excellent dinner parties.

    • repateet 4.2

      re “shows little or no empathy.”

      I attended a most enlightening session about the autism spectrum. I am sometimes reminded of things I heard there when I see Cameron Slater talking and responding to questions and relate them to people I have been in contact with who fit the autism profiles. I don’t know about narcissism but another commentator said Slater was a sociopath. Slater’s writings might give an indication as to the accuracy of that.

      • Rhinocrates 4.2.1

        My comment above was a dark joke, no more. A chocolate fish for those who get the reference (OK… Hannibal Lecter eats the rude).

        I attended a most enlightening session about the autism spectrum. I am sometimes reminded of things

        Beware confirmation bias.

        As someone with autism and an anxiety disorder, I really get disturbed by amateur medical diagnoses AND the branding that goes with it.

        Simon Baron-Cohen, director of the Cambridge Autism Research Centre has often noted in interviews that autists are almost always very moral people. My own experience is that I’m awkward in reading cues in real time, but people credit me with very high emotional intelligence – it’s just that the inputs are SO overwhelming (stick your head inside a pinball machine and you’ll get the idea), that as a survival mechanism I have to erect layers of filtering and rules to get by (hence Baron-Cohen’s comment about morality – we need rules that work).

        Please leave the amateur diagnoses to Shearer… or not even that idiot.

        • NickS 4.2.1.1

          THIS.

          People who are otherwise normal are also perfectly capable of being complete arseholes, and while depression can make sufferers more grumpy/angry, in Slater’s case he was just as much a douche before developing depression. Only now he’s much more open about it and has time to kill…

          Also – I’m sort of the same, though my filters are more there to deal with depression triggers.

        • Molly 4.2.1.2

          Agree +100.

          I have a son on the spectrum and he has one of the usual traits of being unable to lie. This trait makes him a social timebomb occasionally, but his integrity and honesty are without fault.

          • Rhinocrates 4.2.1.2.1

            If someone asks “How are you?”, I struggle to say “Fine”, because I want to be accurate.

            Them: “How are you?”

            Me: [Internally: well, I have this persistent strain in my right popliteal fascia due to the posture I keep at my desk and my left foot is half a size bigger than my right, so that there is this constriction in my boot and my left big toe always feels as though there's something under it and the little toe has a corn, and there's this pale patch on my jacket that really upsets the colour scheme and I really should lay out that rug again and did you know that Gliese 667C has three planets in the Goldlilocks Zone, though solar wind combined with weak magnetic fields - due to them most likely being tidally locked - suggest that the inner two might be uninhabitable due to atmosphere loss, just like Mars, which has only a fragmentary magnetic field, though life might exist underground, even if it is a Godawful small affair to the girl with the mousy hair and...]. “Urgh… fine, thanks for asking.”

            And I’m “high functioning”.

            • Molly 4.2.1.2.1.1

              Wow – I knew there was a reason why my son is one of my favourite people.

              • Rhinocrates

                Hi Molly – that’s good! My best wishes for you and your son.

                By the way, those “bombs” (see below – 4.2.1.2.1.2) are FUN.

            • Rhinocrates 4.2.1.2.1.2

              The short version being, if anyone with autism gives you a blank stare, it’s not because there’s nothing going on behind their eyes – on the contrary, a bomb of associations has just detonated, once again, and they’re trying to assemble the pieces into a simple object that they can give back to you.

        • ianmac 4.2.1.3

          In my experience Autistics and ADHD seem to take “rules” literally and get upset when a grey interpretation of a rule is so unsettling.
          You seem well able to manage your autism Rhino.

          • Rhinocrates 4.2.1.3.1

            grey interpretation of a rule is so unsettling.

            Everything that is automatic for neurotypical people has to be manual for us, I like to say. It makes us more aware in some ways, but requires a bit of (legal) self-medication due to the effort it requires…

            I’ve had time to learn the tricks at least. I feel sorry for those who haven’t yet.

      • emergency mike 4.2.2

        Slater, autism? Nah, can’t see it. As Rhino said, those on the autism spectrum usually have a strong moral code, and as far as I can see don’t generally covet the limelight.

        To me Slater, Banks, and Brownlee are both textbook cases of narcissistic personality disorder. Otherwise known as ‘being a complete arsehole’.

        Also as Rhino said, be careful about labeling people with psychological disorders, it’s very easy to work backwards from a conclusion about someone and see what you want to see to confirm that conclusion. It’s probably best avoided.

        However I’m happy to make exceptions for the turds I’ve mentioned. And for good measure – John Key: sociopath.

        • dpalenski 4.2.2.1

          If Slater is autistic, I’m one super out going party people in this altervative universe and I have girlfriend too. In this universe Slater properly suffers from arsehole disorder like Micheal Laws does when he claimed to be autistic.

          BTW does else’s ablity to spell go backwards when they write about Micheal Laws the guy dumbs me just writing about him in passing :p

    • SpaceMonkey 4.3

      Actually I think Cameron Slater oscillates between narsissist and psychopath…

    • Mary 4.4

      Yes, and part of that will be loving the attention he’s getting.

    • Tracy:

      I dont think he is narcissistic, he maybe something else, but not this.
      Also why oh why do you feel the need to use my full name when writing a
      message?

      • Mary 4.5.1

        Because it’s got a nice ring to it.

      • the pigman 4.5.2

        If Tracey just said “Brett” you might be confused with any number of other TS users (whose names might be Brett).

        I mean you chose the name, are you seriously complaining when people call you by it?

  5. Tiger Mountain 5

    Well it is rather refreshing to read Hamish Price’s words. Articulate and thoughtful. There are old fashioned decent torys in the modern world as contradictory as that seems.

    Don’t agree with them and the damage their comprador (crony) capitalism does to our country in so many ways but Price’s remarks are fresh air after the Whalespew stench. Cam Slater really needs to be “sectioned” for assessment at least.

  6. karol 6

    Ha! I didn’t know about the Terry Prachett thing before, but it does suit your reworking of it in TS banner above:

    The Standard
    Because The Truth will make you fret
    especially if a misogynist creep ran it.

    Indeed.

    Such a sloppy conspiracy to undermine Brown using a smear that is all tabloidish bluster and sleaze, with little real ammunition. Meanwhile Slater, Cook,Wewege and Palino were leaving track marks all over town.

    That Price and many others knew of the attempt to “embarrass” Brown makes a lie of Slater claiming only people close to Brown would have known, and therefore someone in the Brown camp must have sent the texts.

    And WO claimed on The Nation that he hadn’t lied about anything? Didn’t he first say Chuang came to him with the story? And then later claimed, after Wewege’s role was exposed, that Wewege brought Chuang to him?

    How many more lies?

    • lprent 6.1

      Not quite..

      The Standard
      Because The Truth will make you fret.
      Especially if a misogynist creep still ran it.

      For the space of one word I could add the boot.. And in the best tradition of the Ankh-Morpork Times could I do less. The book is called The Truth and it stands out even amongst his many other books. I was reading it last night while waiting, and it seemed so appropiate

    • Such a sloppy conspiracy to undermine Brown using a smear that is all tabloidish bluster and sleaze, with little real ammunition.

      Brown flies the flag of family values during his campaign and then has initiates an affair in which his role as mayor played a significant part.

      Is hypocrisy an accepted part of politics now?

      • karol 6.2.1

        Show me where Brown campaigned on “family values” – whatever that term may mean?

        As an Auckland voter, I’d never heard the term “family values” being associated with Len Brown before this news of the affair broke.

      • amirite 6.2.2

        qI; is hypocrisy an accepted part of politics now?

        a: Yes it is, cue: Banks voting for gay marriage and the casino laws while being a fundy Bible basher, Dunne voting for the very law that allowed the GCSB to spy on him too and cause him a massive tantrum.
        There are countless other examples, I’m sure everyone can contribute with theirs,

        • Ugly Truth 6.2.2.1

          Yes it is

          This hypocrisy is consistent with the perversion of law which is sold by the state. It isn’t restricted to either the left or the right of the political arena. The perversion is the atheistic interpretation of law which is fundmentally theistic.

          Incidentally hypocrisy is connected to Christianity via Paul. Paul was a Pharisee, and they were collectively characterised as being hypocrites. The connection between Christianity and the state is underscored by the fact that the NZ head of state is also the “Supreme Governor” of the Anglican Church.

  7. bad12 7

    i quite like this bloke Hamish Price, i just listened to Him on RadioNZ National saying much the same things as what the Facebook page does,

    Price isn’t afraid to air nationally His belief that Slater/Cook and Palino are lying their faces off about their knowledge of and involvement in the sub-plot surrounding Len’s dalliance to force Him from the Mayoralty,

    Isn’t it great tho to see them take to each other, the right that is, it can be heard from down here in Wellington, riiiiippp, as the National Party power base in Auckland tears itself apart, the laughable mainstream media at pains to try and distance the Party from the blood-bath among the ‘activist’ cadre tasked with holding the lefts feet to the fire, have in reality shown the whole country that National are now riven with intercine factional fighting out-side of the Parliament and i would suggest that while patently not involved in this ugly mess, Slippery’s National Government will not avoid being splashed in the offal as the blood-letting continues…

    • SpaceMonkey 7.1

      What I know of Cameron Slater… if Price wasn’t right, Slater would be in like a robber’s dog suing Price for defamation and slander.

  8. Tracey 9

    Yup…. eating their young. Certain nats will be bemoaning how clumsy this was. It shows you get what u pay for even when playing dirty…

    has collins tweeted cam recently…

    I saw cactus kate commented here when it broke but no comment since it turned on her boy?

    • Pascal's bookie 9.1

      nah. the SOP is to lay low until it all blows over and then to start being public friends with him again when he says something funny about a greenie.

      And if anyone ever says ‘how about all that crap?’ you go on about how ‘no one can control Cameron, but to those who know him, they know he is a big lovely and you just don’t understand.’

    • Murray Olsen 9.2

      A person less trusting than myself would be wondering if the prickly one, with her links to Hong Kong, actually played some role with Bevan Chuang, also from Hong Kong. Of course, they would be totally wrong, and Cam is one of the nicest people you could ever hope to meet.

  9. JK 10

    Have a look at Richard Harman’s comments on Front Page. Its about the factions in National. And Harman having been a press gallery journo for years, and right-wing leaning – it sounds credible to me. Sorry – don’t know how to do links, but the link is in Bryce Edwards’ column in today’s Herald – somewhere down near the end of it.

  10. Tat Loo 11

    “As well as the refugees from those countries (it is noticeable the number of Americans we’re seeing moving here at present) we also seen some of the dregs and their tactics…”

    There’s no doubt that NZ is seen as a “lifeboat” by some Americans seeking shelter from the fallout of a struggling empire. As tides rise in the pacific and the Washington DC gridlock worsens (next budget showdown is being replayed in Jan) we’ll have to carefully consider what this lifeboat status means for us.

    • vto 11.1

      Yep. One of the biggest and most unavoidable issues of our time.

      Our population will soar at some few points in time over the next period to a density comparable to most other similar nations (UK? Japan? Fancy 50million living here?).

      And there virtually nothing a government or a nation can do at those points in time.

      • Tat Loo 11.1.1

        I think NZ should implement policies to maintain a hard cap on total population of 9M or less. That’s double today’s and a high limit, but we are in an over populated world living beyond its carrying capacity, where these issues have to be thought about.

        To put that into perspective, that’s an Auckland with over 3M people. All I can say is… Good luck with that :)

    • Rogue Trooper 11.2

      The number of mass shootings in the US has tripled in recent years- A.G Eric Holder. The apart, hide.

    • greywarbler 11.3

      Tat
      Yes, who will come. I keep thinking of the Ossies and writing about them. I wonder how bad things have to get there before they overcome their illogical prejudices and start seeing us as a green alternative. After their houses have burnt down three times? Water gets very expensive?
      They have been feeding themselves a good life story for a long while, with nights out to sometimes lavish RSL clubs built with gambling profits.

      But is it a house of straw? The gambling profits were an incentive for us to get them by the past governments of Tw’dee and dumb. The whole mindset is addictive and hard to cure.

      Chinese are so smart and focussed they can run twice as fast as us on half the breath. They are coming too, and I hope they bring the better part of Mao’s Revolution with them but fear that they will revert to looking after No.1 Family first. Which means they may be drawn to the Right here. Patsy Wong and hubby are go-getters, probably examples of the industrious, ambitious achievers.

      South Africans. I think I catch a hint of the accent in many leaders voices in business, public roles.

      And USA. They have been sliding to the Right so long they probably have scoliosis and we could ban them as being health risks. They will bring all their bad habits with them, won’t have learned a thing from the crunchie bar strength of their country.

  11. Saarbo 12

    Absolutely agree!

    • Tat Loo 13.1

      Thx!

    • miravox 13.2

      Slater’s comment on Harman’s blog:

      Actually the point remains tenuous at best Richard…there are no factions, only bitter people like Boag and Price.

      So that’s ok then. That’s not making Harman’s point for him at all…

    • bad12 13.3

      Lolz, what a excellent piece of journalism, all i could think while reading it was ‘fight you bastards fight’,

      A fight like this isn’t going to disappear anytime soon, it’s a smouldering ruin spurred on by Nationals abysmal polling and it will now morph into the dog chasing it’s tail as the support base in Auckland walks away from National not being able to stand the stench,

      The ramifications of this explosion within Nationals elite arm of movers and shakers will sooner or later become apparent in the Parliament,

      I picked Slippery the Prime Minister’s recent prolonged sojourn into the heady realm of international diplomacy as Judith Collin’s best chance to roll Him for the leadership position and i am going to assume here it is in fact the abysmally low polling numbers that have in fact stopped Her leadership challenge albeit temporarily so,

      Having picked Maurice Williamson quite some time ago as one quietly painting a large target on the back of Slippery the PM i am not surprised now that He is showing up in more mainstream commentary as the ‘other half’ of the Collins leadership ticket, it was obvious when Slippery urged Maurice to take up the Speakers role in the Parliament that He was trying to get rid of Maurice and just as obvious from Williamson’s refusal to take the Speakers Chair(usually followed by a plum ambassadorial role), that He had ‘unfinished business’,

      i am picking that Collins/Williamson, one or the other astutely reading the political landscape, have decided amidst the National Governments dramatic fall from electoral grace that they will face after November 2014 a Labour/Green Government of at least two terms and that there is far more to be gained by playing the waiting game,

      Should this be true i would expect Collins/Williamson to ‘allow’ Bill English to take the National Party leadership into the first term of Opposition in what is beginning to have the faint whiff of a total electoral rout for National,

      Expect then a woeful election fought by Bill English as leader in 2017 followed by a Collins/Williamson takeover soon after, of course they just might be able to scrape together the numbers to roll Slippery prior to the 2014 election but time for this to gain the pair any political traction is fast running out,

      i can only add again, fight you bastards, fight….

      • gnomic 13.3.1

        I bow to your apparent superior knowledge of the factions in the National Party, but I for one will not be putting any money on Mozza W as a future contender for its leadership. He may slip the odd dagger between the ribs no doubt, but surely not a face for prime time? Perhaps his bungling incompetence across a range of portfolios would not be an impediment alas.

      • Murray Olsen 13.3.2

        One thing to watch for with NAct’s Auckland support base if the stench becomes unbearable is that they will look for Labour MPs to do their filthy work for them again. It worked better than they could have dreamed of with Douglas and co. The pressure really needs to be kept on Labour from its support base.

  12. captain hook 14

    is there anyway of politely calling a lying arsehole a lying arsehole?

  13. Natwest 15

    Ah! got it – Slater, Cooke and company are lying arseholes – because Len didn’t really have an affair after all. Glad we have cleared that mess up!

    [lprent: It looks like the Palino team have been systematically lying in order to do what? That is politically interesting.

    Len Brown boning looks a whole lot less interesting for people who are actually interested in politics. It is probably more of an issue for gossips - you perhaps?. ]

    • karol 15.1

      Bwhahahahaha!

      It’s curious to keep seeing the strange (il)logicality of Slater’s supporters, making comments that have little relation to the evidence as it has been presented, and still trying to hammer the line that the mere having of an affair is the biggest sin a politician can commit. Welcome to the 19th century!

    • framu 15.2

      “because Len didn’t really have an affair”

      no ones saying that! –

      this is yet another thread where your stinking up the place repeating things that exist only in your head

      Do you actually have anything to say?

  14. Sable 16

    Personally sick and tired of hearing about the Slater/Brown affair.

    If the polls are anything to go by most people, including myself, believe the attack is politically motivated.

    Time to ignore little creepy crawlies like the Slater’s of this world and get on with the job of running Auckland.

  15. Mary 17

    Referring to Slater as “Cam” reminds me of that horrible photo of Mallard and Slater with their arms around each other after that silly bike race.

  16. lez howard 18

    Sperm Oil Does not have an a-hole rating.Hes regarded in Tauranga as an ankle,much lower

  17. Natwest 19

    Oh Karol get a grip – this is about the man’s integrity (or lack of it), it’s not the first affair he has been involved in. He cheated on his first wife, with his now second – and now he’s cheated on her (for 2 years). He then provided his mistress with a reference and then personally endorsed her into that council position. He also had her appointed to a board. Thirdly, he abused his position by using the council credit card for personal use – for which he stated was unnaceptable behaviour and, nothing would again occur to tarnish his reputation. He is a proven liar – so stop being an “excuser” for his lack of moral judgement. Mayor of our largest and most strategic city – what a joke. This story ain’t going away any time soon, because where there is smoke there is fire – and I’m absolutely certain there is more revelations to come – watch this space.

    • Te Reo Putake 19.1

      Who are you talking about? The first couple of lines made me think you were dissing Cam Slater, then you drifted off into rant mode.

      On an unrelated matter, nice to see a poll on stuff showing only a minority of people think Len Brown has handled the revelations badly. Looks like he’ll be mayor for many, many more terms now.

    • framu 19.2

      well you made a comment at least – pity its still you interviewing your imagination

    • McFlock 19.3

      :roll:
      In order:
      mind your own business
      being investigated
      dealt with years ago
      wouldn’t be surprised if you are, too

      This story ain’t going away any time soon, because where there is smoke there is fire – and I’m absolutely certain there is more revelations to come – watch this space.
      no matter how hard you fan the embers, this is going to be a short dog-end of a cigarette, compared to the bushfire of which muckrakers knew what in Camp Palino – and why on earth would someone send a threatening text to Williamson?

      • greywarbler 19.3.1

        McFlock
        what a fine summation of a rambling rant you make. And totally right. It’s definite ly the way to go through a lot of verbiage for the nub. I guess if I had done my critical thinking paper better I wouldn’t be struck by that thought.

  18. Natwest 20

    Deluded deniers – pathetic, pitiful responses.

    • Varity 20.1

      ok, fine, you’re right … except slater and you supporters … nobodies cares about the affair anymore and you lot banging on about it isn’t going to change that.

      it’s been kind of amusing seeing slater become more n more unhinged but i do have a heart and think for his own sanity he needs to stop. he lost, he should just accept that and move on.

    • Galrandra 20.2

      @ NW
      The mayor’s probity in relation to responsibilities mayoral is currently being examined elsewhere; this post is about the lack of moral compass in a considerable section of the Auckland’s National party machine.
      Do spend a little time and tell us why you see only shine where the rest of us see sleaze.
      So what appears very much like coercion, blackmail, calumny and the subversion of the democratic process is acceptable, in order to punish what you judge to be sexual transgression?

  19. tricledrown 21

    Ratnest Brown did what the right can never do Hey came out and told the horrible truth.
    Now those who flung the dung have been sprung.
    They have not been able to lie in unison so they have been the arhitects of their own demise.
    It would have been far more effective to just say len had an affair and leave it at that.
    Let the media have a feilday.
    But the bunch of slippery shisters wanted to maximise the damage it has backfired and the shit has largly bounced off len and stuck to the palino slater wewege cook .
    LoL poor little natwest !

  20. NickS 22

    I see Slater is spewing on his blog again, probably would have been wiser for him to take a vacation.

    *grabs popcorn*

    • Rhinocrates 22.1

      Ever read or seen Sartre’s Huis Clos or No Exit as it’s known in English? That’s where the famous Existentialist quote “Hell is other people” comes from – the torture being the eternal desire to be right, to have the last word, no matter what one has done, no matter what the means. Whalecum is in that Hell right now.

      • NickS 22.1.1

        *chuckle*

        Except that’s usually fractally wrong, even more so in this case, so he’s also cursed with the hell that is that delusion of being right and the lack insight to see just how wrongzors he be :evil:

  21. captain hook 23

    was that from the front or the back?

  22. phil 24

    Will JK jump b4 the election? He appears more stressed by each passing day. Leaving the party to fight it out, in private? Hahaha. Sadly we are paying for this veneer of Dumocravy.

  23. captain hook 25

    well if he is going then he is doing his best to make sure no MP gets a rise this year.
    what a turkey.
    Some MP’s work extremely hard and deserve what ever emolument they can get.

  24. Rodel 26

    A. I object to your calling Slater an arsehole.
    B. Sorry. Are you a friend of his?
    A. No. I’m an arshole.

  25. Rogue Trooper 27

    a little Cameo Creme from Karloff :-D

  26. amirite 28

    I lol at the MSM comparing Len Brown’s affair to the army guy’s – conveniently forgetting that the army have been threatening to ruin the lives and the livelihoods of his former mistress and her daughter.
    Also, the Righwingers request for investigation into the SkyCity gift of freebie hotel room use to Len- let’s see what sort of freebies has ShonKey received in return for the Convention Centre and the 300 + pokies deal. This weeks picture in the Sunday Herald supplement shows him and Bronwyn smiling like possums in the headlights in front of the camera just before they were to go to dinner at the Skycity restaurant.
    Yeah, let’s look into both cases, for the sake of consistency and fairness.

  27. Hamish 29

    Dear Whale Blubber, I know you read these comments:

    “237 Blackmail

    (1) Every one commits blackmail who threatens, expressly or by implication, to make any accusation against any person (whether living or dead), to disclose something about any person (whether living or dead), or to cause serious damage to property or endanger the safety of any person with intent—

    (a) to cause the person to whom the threat is made to act in accordance with the will of the person making the threat; and

    (b) to obtain any benefit or to cause loss to any other person.

    (2) Every one who acts in the manner described in subsection (1) is guilty of blackmail, even though that person believes that he or she is entitled to the benefit or to cause the loss, unless the making of the threat is, in the circumstances, a reasonable and proper means for effecting his or her purpose.

    (3) In this section and in section 239, benefit means any benefit, pecuniary advantage, privilege, property, service, or valuable consideration.”

    Punishment of blackmail

    238 Every one who commits blackmail is liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 14 years.

    http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1961/0043/latest/DLM330263.html
    http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1961/0043/latest/DLM330268.html

    • toad 29.1

      Not sure which Hamish you are in this story (or you may be none of them), but you are onto it with that comment.

      There is a serious stench of criminal offending here if we accept what Bevan Chuang is reported as having said.

  28. Just Like Tiger Woods 30

    Get ready, Comrades.

    Incoming……

    Tomorrow, by the looks of it.

  29. Hamish 31

    I’m Sorry Comrade, but I’m too busy working to care whether Len was boning other people on the side. That’s between him and his family, and the people involved…

    Meanwhile, Blubber boy spends the whole day masturbating and getting off on this affair. Is he still a sickness beneficiary? If not where does he get his income from?

  30. gobsmacked 32

    Anyone who thinks this is Left vs Right (like one or two t/rollies above) really needs to wake up. This is the Right fighting themselves – the establishment versus the embarrassment.

    And you should read the latest from inside the Palino camp … heartfelt, frustrated and deserving a response from Palino.

    Will there ever be one?

    http://www.radiolive.co.nz/Hamish-Coleman-Ross-Palino-Auckland-must-hear-you/tabid/721/articleID/38516/Default.aspx

  31. appleboy 33

    Slater is scum – he’s been boasting of his web site getting lots of hits – yeah well xxxtube porn site gets more than Whaleoil, so he’s in good company.

  32. georgecom 34

    The more gets revealed, the more words like “incompetent”, “ham-fisted”, “bumbling” etc come to mind.

  33. hoom 35

    I find it quite fascinating how this affair which was obviously thought to be a knock out blow to the Left on Auckland Council has so quickly reversed into an exposé of & shitfight within the internal workings of the Right.

  34. Cactus Kate 36

    Murray
    Up until the day her name was published in the Herald I had never heard of Bevan Chaung. Funnily enough I don’t know everyone living in Hong Kong let alone those Hong Kong born people not living here. I’m also not a Nat or a Tory.

    Try again.

    I’ve lost track of the story and it’s diversions at the time Brown was accused of writing a reference for a woman he had the hots for/was shagging.

    Nick Smith resigned for such and at that point so should Len. Then there’s the Sky City murk as well.

    I’ve changed my mind now as for a man as weird as Len is this rooting is absolutely legendary and he’s just the sort of person I think should be Mayor. It’s not a very important job anyway.

    • unsol 36.1

      “Nick Smith resigned for such and at that point so should Len”. Not so. If it comes out that he was only on general/acquaintance terms with Chuang then the whole issue is moot. Surely you know more than anyone that it is best to draw conclusions based on facts, not hearsay.

      “I’ve changed my mind now as for a man as weird as Len is this rooting is absolutely legendary and he’s just the sort of person I think should be Mayor. It’s not a very important job anyway.”

      You’re wrong about legendary – girls keen to get their leg over to procure political leverage no doubt require very little persuasion and 2 minutes is hardly indicative of someone who really knows their way around.

      But if dirty politics is how NZ wants to progress then what we need now, you know, so that it is a level playing field, is for Slater’s ex mistress Debbie Brown (funny she shares not only the same surname as Len, but his lack of common decency) to come out sharing how many times she slept with him & his prowess….or lack thereof. After all, the political commentators are in the public arena so surely we should be holding their personal lives up to the same scrutiny, otherwise how do we know they can be trusted?

      “…and he’s just the sort of person I think should be Mayor. It’s not a very important job anyway”.

      I agree. The role of mayor is no more than a simple mouthpiece.

    • Tat Loo 36.2

      Nick Smith resigned for such and at that point so should Len. Then there’s the Sky City murk as well.

      Nick Smith resigned?

      How come he is still in Parliament, then?

    • gnomic 36.3

      ‘I’ve changed my mind now as for a man as weird as Len is this rooting is absolutely legendary and he’s just the sort of person I think should be Mayor. It’s not a very important job anyway.’

      OMG! Agree with the Cactus, oh noes. Len is a headcase, no doubt about it. Up there with JFK and Slick Willy on the flopping it out front it seems.

      And anyway who cares who is the ‘Mayor’ since as Penny Bright has pointed out, certain dark forces actually call the shots anyway. She mentioned the Committee for Dorkland and the Property Council.

  35. unsol 37

    Nice response from Price – he is not only much better looking (mind you, most people are), but classier when he responds to accusations.

    I don’t consider politics to be an honourable profession, but Cameron Slater’s gutter politics is a whole new low. It is one thing to expose the affair, but entirely another to provide the kind of information he has.

    The whole thing is embarrassing – not only for Brown & NZ politics, but for Slater & his family. How can he, as a father & so-called Christian justify this kind of garbage to his family? His church?

    The irony of course is that his actions have pretty much guaranteed zero chance of his desired result coming to fruition – Brown will stay as mayor.

  36. captain hook 38

    it’s really great to see banks whining on the telly that the whole country is agianst him.
    Well the thing is that the whole country is just about sick of banks and slater and their vitriol and hatred that passes for politicis.

  37. gnomic 39

    Did some one mention Cameron Slater? How strange that the king of the ratbags (imho) hates ratbags. Most perverse, psychologically. Depressed was it, after his business failed? Diddums. Well worth big sums of cash. Or not, as the insurers eventually decided, last I heard. Daddy was a nasty piece of work too, or perhaps he was a lovely bloke? Despite being a senior official in the ‘National’ party which some might think meant he was scum floating on the surface..

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    “There is something really sick about a National Party Prime Minister coming out in support of a Labour candidate” said MANA leader and Tai Tokerau MP, Hone Harawira, after hearing that John Key is urging voters to back Labour in...
    Mana | 16-09
  • SHUT DOWN THIS GOVT NOT KAITI WINZ – Nikora
    “I’m going to make it as hard for you to get help as I can” is Paula Bennett’s message to the people of Kaiti  said MANA candidate Te Hāmua Nikora today in response to the news that National will close...
    Mana | 16-09
  • Winegums make for better polling – Harawira
    I wanted to laugh when I saw the Native Affairs poll the other night (Hone Harawira 38%, Kelvin Davis 37%) because it was almost the same as the one they did back in 2011”, said MANA leader and Tai Tokerau...
    Mana | 16-09
  • The Leadership of MTS Lied – Harawira
    “Normally I’m happy to tell people that I was right but when I received the news about the staff cuts at Maori Television, I had nothing but sympathy for the three Maori media leaders who are going to be made...
    Mana | 16-09
  • Privileges Complaint Laid against Prime Minister – Harawira
    MANA Movement Leader and Te Tai Tokerau MP Hone Harawira has today lodged a Privileges Complaint with the Speaker regarding the Prime Ministers denials in parliament that he knew anything about Kim Dotcom before 2012. “Information made public today appears...
    Mana | 15-09
  • Sharples’ new appointments are out of order
    The new appointments to the Waitangi Tribunal announced by Dr Pita Sharples this morning are completely out of order given the election is just five days away, says Labour's State Services spokesperson, Maryan Street. “This Government continues to show disdain...
    Labour | 15-09
  • MANA Movement Housing Policy
    “When families are living in cars, garages, cockroach-infested caravans and three families to a house then we have a housing crisis”, said MANA leader and MP for Te Tai Tokerau, Hone Harawira. “When you have a housing crisis for low-income...
    Mana | 15-09
  • Bigger than the Foreshore and Seabed – Sykes
    “Over the past week I have received some disturbing information that has led myself and a number of Maori lawyers to conclude that this National - Maori Party - ACT and United Future Government are going to put an end to both...
    Mana | 14-09
  • MANA wants Te Reo Māori petition fulfilled
    Hone Harawira, MANA Leader and MP for Te Tai Tokerau Annette Sykes, MANA candidate for Waiariki Te Hāmua Nikora, MANA candidate for Ikaroa Rāwhiti  “More than four decades have passed and the petition calling for Te Reo Māori in schools...
    Mana | 14-09
  • Primary focus on the critical issues
    A Labour Government will prioritise New Zealand’s agricultural sectors by recreating a Rural Affairs Minister and appointing a Primary Industry Council and a Chief Agricultural Adviser. Releasing Labour’s Primary Sector and Rural Affairs policies today, spokesperson Damien O’Connor says the...
    Labour | 12-09
  • Maori Television fears confirmed – Harawira
    ...
    Mana | 12-09
  • More ghost houses from National
    The Government’s desperate pre-election announcement of more ghost houses won’t fool Aucklanders wanting action on the housing crisis, says Labour’s Housing spokesperson Phil Twyford. “These are ghost houses, to go with National’s ghost tax cut. Families cannot live in ghost...
    Labour | 12-09
  • National bows to union pressure over travel time
    National has reluctantly bowed to pressure from unions and adopted Labour’s fair and sensible policy to pay home support workers for the time they spend traveling between clients, Labour’s Associate Health spokesperson Iain Lees-Galloway says. “This decision is long overdue...
    Labour | 12-09
  • I feel sorry for Labour Party members and supporters
    I feel really sorry for the members and supporters of the Labour Party as they watch their caucus tear itself to shreds. And no matter what the outcome of the coming leadership race Labour members and supporters will be the...
    The Daily Blog | 01-10
  • Ummmm, why is Auckland Transport spying on Aucklanders?
    Ummm. What? Sophisticated surveillance coming to Auckland Surveillance technology that uses high definition cameras and software that can put names to faces and owners to cars is coming to Auckland. The surveillance has the capability to also scan social media...
    The Daily Blog | 01-10
  • It. Is. About. The. Economy. Stupid.
    Liam Dann does a good job of explaining the positive and negative issues looming for the NZ economy and as dairy prices plunge again overnight alongside a large Wall st sell off  and China Bank rumours begin, his case for the negative...
    The Daily Blog | 01-10
  • Don’t think of it as reinvading Iraq, think of it as redecorating Iraq
    I think some NZers view Iraq like an episode of The Block. Yes Iraq is the worst country on the street, but with a bit of elbow grease by our SAS and some great deals down at Bunnings, hey presto we...
    The Daily Blog | 01-10
  • GUEST BLOG: Joe Trinder – Mana Maori alliance
    Most Maori you speak to on the street can’t understand why Mana movement and  Maori Party don’t combine it confuses them why Maori are divided cross benches in Parliament instead of a unified political power that represents 15% of the...
    The Daily Blog | 01-10
  • Party members and affiliates – the real losers in Labour’s leadership f...
    Hey, wanna do a back room deal that cuts the members and affiliates out? Cunliffe must be reeling. He has lost failed Ilam candidate James Dann. It must cut as deep as the loss of Steve Gibson. Apart from providing Claire...
    The Daily Blog | 30-09
  • Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking rant on Radio Hauraki: Today, the election res...
    Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking rant on Radio Hauraki: Today, the election result...
    The Daily Blog | 30-09
  • The rich get richer
    Nobel prize winner Paul Krugman highlights the growing inequality in this article in the New York Times. The left wing slogan that the “the rich get richer” is a fact of almost perverse power. The most recent period of expansion in the...
    The Daily Blog | 30-09
  • A brief word on reinvading Iraq
    So after telling the country before the election that NZ would not send forces to Iraq, lo and behold now he’s won the election with a full spectrum dominance political majority, Key is suddenly now looking to join the re-invasion of...
    The Daily Blog | 29-09
  • A brief word on the importance of ACT, Maori Party and United Future to Nat...
    I’m a far right wing clown who attacks tax money going on anything collective, gimmie some cash and privilege.  One of the great successes of National has been to implement hard right policy but have it sold as moderate. For some NZers,...
    The Daily Blog | 29-09
  • Labour’s Angst
    Was Labour’s predictably low vote David Cunliffe’s fault? Was it policy? Was it something else that has aroused perceptions of electoral carnage? My analysis of the numbers suggests that, as uncertain voters made up their minds, there was a late...
    The Daily Blog | 29-09
  • Information wars: Gaza as “the last taboo”, the threat of mass surveill...
    “When the truth is replaced with silence” wrote the soviet dissident Yevgeni Yevtushenko, “the silence is a lie.” There has been a silence these past months full of noise, static and sound bites of those in power justifying their violence,...
    The Daily Blog | 29-09
  • When the media say they covered Dirty Politics – did they?
    I was watching The Nation in the weekend, and watched the defenders of NZ media up against Minto telling him he was wrong in his claims of media bias and that the media covered Dirty Politics. I laughed. When the...
    The Daily Blog | 29-09
  • GUEST BLOG – P Campbell – To the Left with love
    A week after the general election results I feel wrung out emotionally, having been through the disappointment, depression and anger of seeing  another right wing government elected overwhelmingly by winning support from the parts of NZ that will never benefit...
    The Daily Blog | 29-09
  • GUEST BLOG: Kate Davis – I will be the new Labour Leader!
    One week after the election, while I was still waiting to be consulted about contributing to the review on what went wrong, what do you know? There is a leadership challenge. So instead of opting for a united, thoughtful and...
    The Daily Blog | 29-09
  • GUEST BLOG: Pat O’Dea – A Prescient Post
    A very prescient pre-election post by Martyn Bradbury tells us why the Labour Party are at war now. “The NZ First-Labour Party attack strategy against Internet MANA better work” Despite Martyn Bradbury warning them this Right Wing strategy “Better Work”...
    The Daily Blog | 29-09
  • GUEST BLOG: Curwen Rolinson – W(h)ither Labour (!/?)
    There’s an old saying that success has many fathers, but failure is an orphan. Not so in the Labour Party, wherein soul-crushing defeat on a scale unseen since 1925 definitely has many fathers (and more than a few mothers and...
    The Daily Blog | 29-09
  • At the end of the day…
    At the end of the day…...
    The Daily Blog | 29-09
  • Cynicism towards Key’s sudden desire to help children in poverty
    Cynicism towards Key’s sudden desire to help children in poverty...
    The Daily Blog | 28-09
  • Internet MANA the election and the media
    I’ve been very critical of media reporting of Internet MANA during the election campaign and not surprised at the predictable response from representatives of the corporate media establishment. I wasn’t going to carry this further but was asked at the...
    The Daily Blog | 28-09
  • GUEST BLOG: Rachel Jones – A superficial discourse analysis of a superfic...
    On Sunday there was a story about Paddy Gower and his detached retina in the Herald on Sunday. Really? I hear you ask. Really? Yes, really. Pam Corkery will have sprayed toast crumbs over her dressing gown. The reporter has become...
    The Daily Blog | 28-09
  • Terrorising Australia’s Muslim population
    We should be suspicious when 800 police conduct “terror” raids across Australia, but only one person is charged with a relevant terrorism offence (of which we know few details). We should be suspicious of the lurid tales of terrorists planning...
    The Daily Blog | 28-09
  • Another Labour leader has resigned and as per usual, the media lost its min...
    Another Labour leader has resigned and as per usual, the media lost its mind. I know the Labour party has its problems and I’m not even going to try to prescribe what should be done about it. But what I...
    The Daily Blog | 28-09
  • GUEST BLOG: Anjum Rahman – Loyalty, Leadership and the Labour Party
    My first after the election and I can only say I’m feeling pretty sad.  It was a terrible result, and feels even more so knowing the number of volunteers hours, hard work & sacrifice made by so many people who...
    The Daily Blog | 27-09
  • A Study in Party Stability
    . In terms of long-term stability, one party above stands above all others, with the exception of personality-driven groups such as NZ First and United Future. That party is the Greens. If the Labour Party wants to look elsewhere for...
    The Daily Blog | 27-09
  • Cunliffe vs Robertson – Round 2
    Much to the disappointment of the NZ Herald and other right wing pundits who have decided they would like to appoint the next Labour leader, Cunliffe has surprised by deciding to damn the Caucus and appeal directly to the members...
    The Daily Blog | 27-09
  • The tasks before the left and labour movement
    Anyone on the left would have been disappointed at the result of the election. There was an opportunity to win, but that got lost through a combination of factors. There were tactical decisions made by Labour, the Greens and Internet-Mana...
    The Daily Blog | 27-09
  • From Fiji’s dictatorship to ‘democracy’ – the AUT student team on t...
    Mads Anneberg’s profile on Ricardo Morris and Repúblika. David Robie also blogs at Café Pacific. THREE STUDENTS from AUT University covered Fiji’s historic “from dictatorship to democracy” general election this month. While the election arguably legitimised Voreqe Bainimarama’s so-called 2006...
    The Daily Blog | 27-09
  • David Cunliffe Resigns As Labour Leader – Forces Robertson Out of the Bel...
    David Cunliffe has made a smart move, resigning as the leader of the Labour Party so as to force a leadership primary campaign. The move draws rival Grant Robertson out of the beltway to parts of the country where he...
    The Daily Blog | 27-09
  • Deep thought vs Deep prejudice
    . . This letter to the editor appeared in The Listener, on 27 September, and caught my attention; . . Mr Dawson wrote in response to one of those typically unthinking comments which  condemned the poor for their “unbridled, reckless...
    The Daily Blog | 27-09
  • The NZ National voters elected
    The NZ National voters elected...
    The Daily Blog | 26-09
  • GUEST BLOG: Kate Davis – The post election postmortem is giving me post p...
    I feel the need to contribute to the discourse. This is a new experience for me. Not having an opinion, but expressing it on a popular forum in a public sphere. That’s why I have waited till now and put...
    The Daily Blog | 26-09
  • A dictionary of education terms and definitions, brought to you by the let...
    Free to all TDB readers, please enjoy your very own cut-out-and-keep handy primer of terms that I predict you will need to know over the next three years… Achievement Gap (noun) Synonym for wealth gap. ACT (abstract noun) Intangible. Reported to exist in...
    The Daily Blog | 26-09
  • A Mines Rescue brigadesman’s perspective on the Pike River Mine
    My husband and I lived in Greymouth in 2010, we were a coal mining family.  The day Pike River Mine blew up and the days following changed us profoundly, as it did for so many.  This is a Mines Rescue...
    The Daily Blog | 26-09
  • The Left Triumphant! A Counterfactual History of the Last Twelve Months.
    DID IT REALLY HAVE TO END LIKE THIS? Reading through the commentary threads of the left-wing blogs it is impossible to not feel the anger; the sense of betrayal; the impression of having had something vital ripped from their grasp;...
    The Daily Blog | 26-09
  • GUEST BLOG – Myles Thomas: The media won it!
    Make no mistake, John Key is a clever communicator – reasonable, authoritative and relaxed – but without the media he wouldn’t be PM. Depending on your viewpoint, New Zealand’s news media are either a bunch of Grey Lynn lefties or...
    The Daily Blog | 25-09
  • Not Learning Lessons Past: the West’s Response to IS
    In an earlier posting Ukraine, United Kingdom, Ireland, Scotland, I noted that the first lesson of conflict learned by Robert McNamara was “understand your adversary”. If we have honourable objectives, our first and most important weapon is empathy. In the Vietnam War,...
    The Daily Blog | 25-09
  • GUEST BLOG: Dr Jarrod Gilbert – Proof of David Farrar’s deception: my ...
    In the lead up to the election the Minister of Corrections Anne Tolley launched a gang policy. In order to justify the government’s approach she used gang figures that overstated the gang problem. Not by a little bit, but a...
    The Daily Blog | 25-09
  • SPECIAL FEATURE: Stuart Nash – Red To The Rescue?
    SPECIAL FEATURE by Selwyn Manning. IF THE ELECTION RESULT which was dished out to Labour was not enough to incite an immediate leadership primary, then the caucus’ refusal to recognise David Cunliffe as the leader should cement it. Now is...
    The Daily Blog | 25-09
  • Has the one party state crackdown begun already? Left wing NZ activist grou...
    Well known left wing activist social media group, ‘John Key Has Left Down NZ’ has been shut down on Facebook. At 11.40pm last night, Facebook, without any warning shut the group down siting a breach of terms of service as...
    The Daily Blog | 24-09
  • Why Cunliffe should probably just let Nash & Robertson win
    We have to face some very unpalatable home truths. If you are a left wing political person, best you put your vote now to the Green Party, although you’ll have to do that all the while the Greens frantically tell you...
    The Daily Blog | 24-09
  • The graceless win of Kelvin Davis
    The graceless win of Cameron Slater’s mate in the North, Kelvin Davis is difficult to swallow. Here Cameron Slater’s mate in the North is shitting on Hone Harawira by calling Hone all steam, no hangi as Kelvin rubs his ganged up win into...
    The Daily Blog | 24-09
  • So Labour shifted too far to the left?
    So Labour shifted too far to the left?   Here’s the ill-judged view of Josie Pagani in the Pundit “Labour must change”: “At the last election I made myself a heretic when I wrote a column mentioning how unpopular the...
    The Daily Blog | 24-09
  • Uncomplicated Loyalties: Why Cunliffe and the Labour Left Cannot Win
    THE STORY of David Cunliffe’s leadership of the Labour Party has been one of missed opportunities and unforced errors. That he was the only choice available to those who wanted to rid the Labour Party of its neoliberal cuckoos is...
    The Daily Blog | 24-09
  • So we can expect this now?
    So we can expect this now?...
    The Daily Blog | 23-09
  • Can Labour be saved? Why Whaleoil & National won and why we need a new ...
    As the shock of my optimism that NZers would recoil from the real John Key as exposed by Dirty Politics and mass surveillance duplicities wears off, I am surprised to find that the right in NZ are not content with...
    The Daily Blog | 23-09
  • Three more years (up shit creek and paddling hard)
    “If the future is not green, there is no future. If the future is not you, there is no future”. Emma Thompson’s stirring words to the climate marchers in London last Sunday are worth considering in the aftermath of the...
    The Daily Blog | 23-09
  • One Party State
    In years to come this election will be seen as a historic turning point towards one party rule. I don`t mean this literally, absolute single party dictatorship is not in prospect. In the New Zealand context though, one party has...
    The Daily Blog | 23-09
  • No More. The Left Falls.
    . We cannot be beaten down Because we are down already. We can only rise up and if you should beat us down, We will rise again. And again. And again… And when you tire of beating us down, We...
    The Daily Blog | 23-09
  • Hang tight everyone – Marama Davidson campaign reflection
    To the many people who had expressed their overwhelming support for me to enter Parliament this election – thank you. That the Greens held steady in a big loss for progressive politics is an achievement. We are hopeful that after...
    The Daily Blog | 22-09
  • How You Can Help the Homeless
    At any one time, there are an estimated 357 homeless people in Central Auckland alone, many enduring hardships beyond the rain, wind and cold of sleeping rough. October 10 is World Homeless Day when the public are invited to learn...
    Scoop politics | 02-10
  • Over 20% of Gold Production Now Pledged to Kiwifruit Claim
    Kiwifruit growers representing over 20% of New Zealand gold kiwifruit production have already pledged to join The Kiwifruit Claim, the chairman of the claim’s grower committee, John Cameron, said today....
    Scoop politics | 02-10
  • ‘Creepy’ Decision on Up-Skirt Filming Slammed
    Family First NZ says that a discharge without conviction given to a man who filmed up a woman's dress in a Wellington department store is a ‘creepy’ decision that should concern all people who value their privacy. “This decision by...
    Scoop politics | 02-10
  • Speaker leads delegation to CPA Conference
    Strengthening New Zealand’s ties with parliaments from across the world will be the focus of the upcoming delegation to the 60th Commonwealth Parliamentary Association (CPA) Conference in Yaoundé, Cameroon from 4-10 October and the 131st Inter-Parliamentary...
    Scoop politics | 02-10
  • Response to Russell Brown and Tertiary Education Union
    The allegation that I have worked with others to discredit public health efforts is wrong. My public comments in relation to public health researchers have been where academics have mislead the public about official support or endorsement, and where...
    Scoop politics | 02-10
  • 17 jobs lost as Bridon/Cookes reaches the end of its rope
    Seventeen workers at the iconic Bridon/Cookes wire rope company in Auckland are to be made redundant as the company ceases production in New Zealand. The company has blamed the high New Zealand dollar for making it uncompetitive to keep the...
    Scoop politics | 02-10
  • Slip in University Rankings – Funding Not the Problem
    Responding to the slippage of New Zealand universities' rankings , Jordan Williams, Executive Director of the Taxpayers’ Union says:...
    Scoop politics | 02-10
  • Time to rethink police chases, says safety campaigner
    Police chases are dangerous and generally unnecessary, says the American Federal Bureau of Investigation....
    Scoop politics | 02-10
  • Robertson now expected to be Labour leader by Xmas
    Grant Robertson is now overwhelmingly picked to become the next leader of the Labour Party by the end of the year, according to the combined wisdom of the 8000+ registered traders on New Zealand’s predictions market, iPredict. Another potential Labour...
    Scoop politics | 01-10
  • Documenting historic Māori land law cases for the first time
    A new book from Victoria University of Wellington’s Faculty of Law will continue to put the spotlight on Māori Land Law judgments which have never before been published....
    Scoop politics | 01-10
  • ‘Oily’ people greet Petroleum Summit diners
    Greenpeace activists smeared in fake oil have greeted guests arriving at the part-Statoil sponsored Petroleum Summit dinner this evening....
    Scoop politics | 01-10
  • Key Decisions Made About Labour’s Leadership Election
    Labour’s New Zealand Council has made the key decisions about the timetable and process around the election of Labour’s Party Leader. The result will be announced on Tuesday 18th November, following a comprehensive and extensive process unique...
    Scoop politics | 01-10
  • Suspected $6 Million Dollar Wananga Fraud Alarming
    The Taxpayers’ Union is calling on on the Te Whare Wananga o Awanuiarangi to front up over claims the Wananga has pocketed government overpayments amounting to $6 million of taxpayers' money. Jordan Williams, Executive Director of the Taxpayers’ Union...
    Scoop politics | 01-10
  • Submissions sought on herbicide for weed control in maize
    The Environmental Protection Authority is calling for submissions on a herbicide to improve broadleaf weed control in maize. The substance CADET contains 100g fluthiacet-methyl in the form of an emulsifiable concentrate and would contain a new active ingredient...
    Scoop politics | 01-10
  • Jesse Mulligan Lives Below Poverty Line
    Jesse Mulligan Lives Below Poverty Line TV personality Jesse Mulligan will live on the equivalent of the extreme poverty line this October in order to raise awareness of sex trafficking. Mulligan will survive on $2.25 for his food from October...
    Scoop politics | 01-10
  • Narratives from the 2014 Election: What do we learn?
    Narratives from the 2014 Election: What do we learn? - Sue Bradford, Russell Brown & Kirk Serpes discuss....
    Scoop politics | 01-10
  • Voices from Oceania to speak out on climate change
    Voices from Oceania to speak out on climate change at launch of Pacific environment report...
    Scoop politics | 01-10
  • Changes to Pacific Tsunami Warning Centre messages
    The Ministry of Civil Defence & Emergency Management advises that while changes to Pacific Tsunami Warning Centre messages come into effect from today (Wednesday 1 October), the Ministry has been, and remains, the authoritative voice for tsunami...
    Scoop politics | 01-10
  • Police remove banner at Statoil Offices in Wellington
    Oil Free Wellington hung a banner at 9:30 this morning at the Statoil office headquarters in Wellington as the Petroleum Summit opened in Auckland. The banner, which read 'Statoil out of Northland: Stop Deep Sea Oil', has now been removed...
    Scoop politics | 01-10
  • Mixed massages raise concerns
    Mixed massages raise concerns for Te Taumata Kaumatua Ngapuhi nui tonu, and Te Wakaminenga O nga Hapu Ngapuhi....
    Scoop politics | 01-10
  • Union Slams Port Boss’s Pay Rise
    The Rail and Maritime Transport Union (RMTU) says Lyttelton Port CEO Peter Davie’s 18% wage rise, taking his pay packet to $1.24m, is unjustified and inflammatory. ‘Lyttelton port has an appalling health and safety record, with three deaths on...
    Scoop politics | 30-09
  • Prisons expert Ron Nikkel to speak in Auckland October 15
    Prison Fellowship NZ and JustSpeak have the privilege of hosting the former president of Prison Fellowship International, Ron Nikkel....
    Scoop politics | 30-09
  • Hundreds of educators protest IES in Rotorua
    Four hundred educators from around the country took their opposition to the Government's controversial Investing in Educational Success policy to the public today....
    Scoop politics | 30-09
  • Crime drops by 3.2 % in the 2013 / 2014 financial year
    Criminal offences dropped by 3.2 % in the last financial year according to figures released today through Statistics New Zealand....
    Scoop politics | 30-09
  • Narratives from the 2014 Election: what do we learn?
    I would like to invite you to a Fabians Reflection on "Dirty Politics, Dotcom and Labour’s worst result" with Colin James, Keith Ng, Stephanie Rodgers and Richard Harman. They will provide a debrief of analysis and lessons from the 2014...
    Scoop politics | 30-09
  • Oil Free Wellington drops banner from Statoil headquarters
    Today members of Oil Free Wellington have targeted the offices of Statoil, by attaching a banner reading 'Statoil out of Northland: Stop Deep Sea Oil' to the entrance of Vodafone on the Quay Midland Park, where Statoil's New Zealand office...
    Scoop politics | 30-09
  • Media Statement from Karen Price
    “After a period of intense media attention and scrutiny of our family, I set up and used an anonymous Twitter account over the weekend and made a number of comments that I deeply regret....
    Scoop politics | 30-09
  • Greenpeace disrupts Simon Bridges’ speech to oil industry
    Greenpeace activists have disrupted the opening speech by Energy and Resources Minister Simon Bridges at the Petroleum Summit in Auckland this morning....
    Scoop politics | 30-09
  • New Zealand Red Cross Responds to Drought in Tonga
    New Zealand Red Cross has sent an aid worker and two desalination units, to turn seawater into safe drinking water in the drought-hit Ha’apai islands of Tonga....
    Scoop politics | 30-09
  • Can you ever tell if an email is real or forged?
    Computer industry veteran Brian Eardley-Wilmot warns that we should never take claims about stolen emails at face value....
    Scoop politics | 30-09
  • NZ MPs to attend the ASPG Annual Conference in Sydney
    New Zealand MPs to attend the Australasian Study of Parliament Group Annual Conference in Sydney...
    Scoop politics | 30-09
  • Independent Maori seats still needed in Parliament
    “He’s got to be joking!” is the reaction of the president of the Maori Party, Rangimarie Naida Glavish to a call by a former Labour Minister of Maori Affairs, Dover Samuels, for debate by Maori on whether the Maori electorates...
    Scoop politics | 30-09
  • Support for Democratic Rights in Hong Kong
    Rallies supporting the rights for universal suffrage will take place all over New Zealand today and tomorrow...
    Scoop politics | 29-09
  • Trout Mass-Poisoned in New Zealand
    Trout Mass-Poisoned in New Zealand The Graf Boys New Zealand has some of the best trout fishing in the world! Every year thousands of international visitors wade pristine rivers in search of the freshwater game fish....
    Scoop politics | 29-09
  • New Zealand’s 2014 Hottest Vegetarians Crowned
    With winter gone things are heating up, and things just got even hotter with the crowning of New Zealand’s hottest vegetarians, says animal advocacy group SAFE. Marking World Vegetarian Day, 1st October, director James Napier Robertson and actor...
    Scoop politics | 29-09
  • A day to remember our duty to look after our senior citizens
    Human Rights Commissioner Dr Jackie Blue says International Day of the Older Person (1 October) is a United Nations day to celebrate our senior citizens, but also acknowledge the need to protect our kaumatua, or older people from abuse and...
    Scoop politics | 29-09
  • Clear data needed on impact of benefit sanctions on children
    A lack of data on benefit sanctions means there is no way of knowing whether welfare reform is helping or harming children, says Child Poverty Action Group....
    Scoop politics | 29-09
  • The socialist alternative to austerity and war
    Public meeting: After the New Zealand election—the socialist alternative to austerity and war By Tom Peters 29 September 2014...
    Scoop politics | 29-09
  • New recruits to boost border protection
    Twenty six new recruits began an intensive nine-week training course in Auckland today that will see them graduate as Customs officers in time for the busy summer season....
    Scoop politics | 29-09
  • Dwindling Mallard population shows up ‘pest’ myth
    The pro hunting organisation Fish & Game is researching the causes of the decline of the mallard duck population, upset at the prospect of fewer ducks to kill....
    Scoop politics | 29-09
  • Support for Democratic Rights in Hong Kong
    New Zealanders in Auckland will gather on Wednesday to support the rights for universal suffrage in Hong Kong....
    Scoop politics | 29-09
  • Campbell Live Exclusive Interview with David Cunliffe
    David Cunliffe resigned as leader of the Labour party on Saturday; but he still wants the top job....
    Scoop politics | 29-09
  • Action needed on cycling safety
    “Clearly we aren't doing enough to protect the 1.5 million New Zealanders who ride bikes,” said Mr Morgan....
    Scoop politics | 29-09
  • World Rivers Day Passes Without A Whimper
    Sunday 28 September was World Rivers Day to celebrate clean, flowing rivers and caring about them. But a recreation-conservation advocacy the Council of Outdoor Recreation Associations of NZ (CORANZ) says the day seems to have slipped by without...
    Scoop politics | 29-09
  • The Kiwifruit Claim: Q&A
    1. Who is running The Kiwifruit Claim? The Kiwifruit Claim was founded by kiwifruit growers representing well in excess of 10% of the industry. 2. Why are you running this claim? The introduction of Psa into New Zealand had devastating...
    Scoop politics | 29-09
  • Fed Farmers Need to Be Weaned
    The Taxpayers’ Union is calling on Federated Farmers to make a firm commitment to reject any future Government funding, after it was revealed that the lobby group had received over $200,000 of payments in recent years....
    Scoop politics | 29-09
  • Children paying the price for charter school stitch up
    New Zealand children will be paying a high price for a one-seat deal between ACT and National, with an expansion of the beleaguered charter school system says education union NZEI Te Riu Roa....
    Scoop politics | 29-09
  • Hikoi From North Reaches Oil Conference Tomorrow
    Today: The Hikoi opposing Statoil plans for seismic testing and deep sea oil drilling has marched through Dargaville and later be welcomed to Piringatahi Marae, West Harbour,Tamaki Makaurau/Auckland....
    Scoop politics | 29-09
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lprent: At the request of Tim Barnett, Labour's returning officer, the Karen Price/Clayton Cosgrove post has been withdrawn during the primary.