Vigano. Trump fan. Totally reliable guy. Not much support from Catholics at all.
Many Catholic leaders further distanced themselves from Viganò and his remarks, which the Catholic News Agency described as "apocalyptic claims about a looming spiritual battle and a globalist conspiracy pursuing a one-world government." Viganò accused Pope Francis of following the 'homosexual agenda of the New World Order conspiracy theory. (Wikipedia)
Many Catholic leaders further distanced themselves from Viganò and his remarks…
'Many', yes, they do. But there is good reasoning behind that. Namely, funding.
Even my local priest supports Vigano, thus many others do to. Some openly, others behind closed doors so to speak.
By the way, associating him with Trump claiming he is unreliable is called playing the man. And most know what that means, thus what game your playing.
The Chairman, there is a reason, and I emphasise that word 'reason', why some of us, having left the Church for disagreeing with homophobic, misogynist. child-molesting, planned-giving taking, authoritarian teachings and practice, are glad that we left then, for we surely should now…..
I'm not so sure they are seeing the Light, The Chairman. The Chairman is, of course, the Pope as he sits on St Peter's Chair, Cathedra Petri, did you know?
Oh dear, read a letter from Vigano November 2020. Biden, electoral fraud, deep state, an enslaved deep Church, Masons, satan, unholy pacts, Jesuits, covid a seasonal 'flu, the "Great Reset".
"It also calls for decisions, mechanisms and processes directed to a better distribution of wealth, the creation of sources of employment and an integral promotion of the poor which goes beyond a simple welfare mentality."
Whether either Franciscus PP or Klaus Schwab agrees with Vignano has not been addressed.
How has the segregation, vaccines and mandates impacted upon your life?
What segregation? The 5% unvaccinated are among us wherever we go.
My booster laid me flat the next day, but am all good now. Apparently it's a sign of good immune response.
I know a couple of former co-workers have been mandated out but struggle to pick who they were. They will be back.
So, no impacts apart from a little inconvenience having to turn up 15 minutes earlier to work for RAT testing, and having to wear a mask at work all day.
The one Jacinda so happily announced. You know? It is what it is. Seem you have no problem with that as it is only 5%. And of course not you. Is that correct?
I know a couple of former co-workers have been mandated out
Seems you don't care about them either. Is that correct?
But good to know it's only a little inconvenience for you
Tell me, do you struggle to put ones self into someone else shoes?
As you are very well aware these Vaers posts are self reported and any and all sorts of rubbish not caused by the vaccines are posted there.
The only things worth looking at are the figures that have been analysed. It is just raw data. I only pay attention to the analyses. As the topic has been discussed on here exhaustively I can only assume that you are disregarding the value and limitations of this reporting for your own purposes.
So I am very happy with my vaccination experiences.
As you are very well aware these Vaers posts are self reported and any and all sorts of rubbish not caused by the vaccines are posted there.
Again. Where are the moderators when someone is writing rubbish? Telling lies and spreading gross misinformation?
The links I provided….did you actually bother to open and read them?
This is NZ…not the US where VAERS is the official government vaccine adverse reaction reporting system. Reporting to VAERS, incidentally, is by no means a simple process and some argue it is made even more difficult for doctors and others who are time constrained as if the multi- page form is not completed in one session and you are timed, out all your entries are lost and you have to begin again. However, I digress.
If you had bothered to open the links and actually read your way through the reports you would have found the very handy list of how many of which type of person is reporting. Public…less than half. Professionals make up the majority of the balance.
A bit rude and disrespectful dismissing their reports as "rubbish".
This is not 'raw data' in the main. It has been sorted and categorized and the huge bulk of reports have been deemed inconsequential.
The the facts remain…the total number of reported cases of anaphylaxis has tripled in one month.
Of that you have nothing to say. You are just keyboard gumbeating.
Delighted that your vaccination experience was painless and positive.
Of course, in Shanreagh world, only Shanreagh's experiences count.
Rosemary, we have been through the value or not of these reports many many times on TS.
I actually follow them too.
Public patients are by far the most 21, 000 odd. This is what I call raw data and these are among the ones that will be researched to see if they meet the criteria.
We have had two deaths, subject to Coroners opinions. Many treatments or procedures have averse consequences, just try reading the Medsafe leaflet for any commonly prescribed tablets etc.
Unlike you I don't have any great faith in my fellow country people to know the causation/correlation between the vaccines and illnesses. However without anyone providing the raw data we would not have the material for professionals to work through.
I think that for people in the street to make conclusions when they know nothing about the topic is what I call rubbish.
From what I can see the database is just being sorted by the owners of the database. This is commonly done when any public comments are sought and people are looking through them.
Any day of the week you can look at local authorities/govt depts who have sought comments or input from the public. Any day of the week these are being sorted and any day of the week they are being analysed after they have been grouped. Some of the comments/input sought are time limited others are ongoing.
Until the reports behind the collection of inputs are analysed then it is just that, a collection of inputs. The so-called analysing at this stage by unqualified members of the public and the extrapolation that goes on is what I call 'rubbish'
The Pope, who surely is worth more than the rest put together, has supported the vaccines.
I am not a Catholic but surely the view of the Pope is more important that the view of a couple of Bishops?
Do unto others as you would have them do unto you is a key tenet…….as mentioned by Muttonbird.
Not following the views of anyone other than what I can read & digest myself on the Canadian occupation. That a Bishop has spoken does not mean their views are better or worse than anyone else ie the view that opinions are like aXXholes and everybody has them.
I must say though I would be dissuaded from thinking highly of anyone who supported Trump though you can find erudite and thoughtful writing from Republicans in days gone by.
No don't 'hate' Trump but fully declare and accept he is a nutter. Others often follow nutters, fact of life, unfortunately.
Actually to be quite honest I am not really keen on religion being discussed here.
I accept that clergy have opinions, as we all do. Theirs are no better or worse than my own…ie I give them no greater standing than those of my next door neighbour…..no actually I would probably give him greater acceptance as he is a surgeon .
Oh dear Alex Jones you say…say no more …..taps side of nose.
You look at as many brain-optional pages as I do.
I don’t need a brain to follow the pages of those whose workings are the product of being brain optional. I find it lessens the time spent trying to fit their works into a rational framework.
What about the other 'segregation' that would exist if there wasn't a vaccine mandate? – the isolation of people particularly vulnerable to the virus? How do you feel about that one?
It's a contest of rights. We're all choosing a side and there will always be losers until this pandemic is over. On the other hand, the mandates for workers facing the public also have the benefit of reducing spread and reducing the chance of another wicked mutation, and overwhelming the health system and its workers.
Of course, there are difficulties that I acknowledge. None worse than those that would be imposed on people vulnerable to the virus, if vaccine mandates that are required for certain jobs and requirements for visiting public places, didn't exist.
We've been here before, with the same challenges around vaccinations and mandates, especially in health emergencies. It won't be forever, but people who lose their lives in this pandemic won't know that, will they?
What about the other 'segregation' that would exist if there wasn't a vaccine mandate? – the isolation of people particularly vulnerable to the virus? How do you feel about that one?
It is already happening under the current mandates. A number are already making that choice as the vaccines aren't 100% safe or effective.
One thing about the mandates, it has shown people how much the vaccinated can still catch and pass it on. Moreover, still end up in hospital.
Many are reliant on a functioning health system. "A number" would be a very low number among people with underlying conditions, indeed.
The effectiveness and risk of disease from vaccinated people has been debated elsewhere, so I'll leave that misleading statement alone for now.
Crazy how some people think high risk severe ill health is fine for some but a vaccine that mostly causes a sore arm (yes, I'm aware of the extremely small risk of severe reactions) is too much for others to bear. It's like people don't know how numbers work.
I don't think anything is likely to come from the talks with the protesters, but I think if people feel shut down and no one is prepared to hear their concerns it makes things worse.
The Govt would do well to discuss with the protesters at what point the mandates will end, or even say, they will end we just don't know when.
Also what about trying to get people like the paramedic re deployed into a role where there is no contact with others? Even answering emergency calls?
"Two of the girls held me and one hit me and after I fell on the ground, she … was still hitting my face and my body. I was waiting for the teacher to help me," Hoda said.
A couple of the kids reflect the sort of attitudes prevalent in our society and you wonder what their school "actually teaches"?
The schools of the fraudsters we read about regularly, the schools of the murderers often in the news, the schools of those who rob dairies, the sexual offenders in the news: do you wonder what their schools taught them/teach them?
399 deaths in Queensland so far, up from 7 reported in mid December last year. Most of the deaths do appear to be in aged care homes and accompany other illnesses. Queensland dealt with the southern states' Delta outbreaks very well, but at the cost of keeping families apart due to strict border controls. The Omicron wave struck before the booster drive really kkicked into gear and caught the state (as elsewhere by surprise. How many long Covid illnessess and deaths would have happened if Queensland hadn't had such a relatively high vax rate and vaccination mandates in key industries as well as mandated mask wearing in public places no-one will ever know.
I am concerned about Omicron in ECE centres, schools, rest homes and hospitals. The disruption is going to take a lot of management. Either people think for theirselves or they wait to be told what to do.
I don't think anything is likely to come from the talks with the protesters, but I think if people feel shut down and no one is prepared to hear their concerns it makes things worse.
The Govt would do well to discuss with the protesters at what point the mandates will end, or even say, they will end we just don't know when.
Also what about trying to get people like the paramedic re deployed into a role where there is no contact with others? Even answering emergency calls?
I imagine protesters will be asking for justification for vaccine mandates. Protesters could point out that more than 900 fully vaccinated people contracted the virus today, so the vaccine mandates are redundant and need to be rescinded immediately.
Protesters could point out that more than 900 fully vaccinated people contracted the virus today, so the vaccine mandates are redundant and need to be rescinded immediately.
looks to me, at a rough count, like unvaccinated people were three and a half times more likely to test positive yesterday than people who had received some vaccination. Sure, it's back of the envelope math with massive holes in it, but a sensible person might want more data on that before we call it "redundant".
The steampunk in me wants a brass slide-rule to try and bounce all these factors around. There were some amazing slide-based analogue computers before chips came in.
One of my favourite moments was looking through the ICD codes (because neeerrrrd), the international classification of diseases so if someone gets a stubbed toe, the ED notes can be translated into an alphanumeric code for analysis. Saves computer space/workload, and makes it possible to distribute anonymous data.
Code Y365 relates to the cause of injury being the effects of nuclear weaponry in a time of war. The classification is decades old. Bureaucrats not only planned for "The Day After", they catered for hospitals to be able to still do patient notes, code the data, and then a bureaucracy to have analysts available just how many people were injured and killed by the apocalypse.
It was just an observation that tickled me years ago.
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The National-led Government continues its fiscal jiggery pokery with its Pharmac announcement today, Labour Health spokesperson Ayesha Verrall says. “The government has increased Pharmac funding but conceded it will only make minimal increases in access to medicine”, said Ayesha Verrall “This is far from the bold promises made to fund ...
This afternoon’s interim Waitangi Tribunal report must be taken seriously as it affects our most vulnerable children, Labour children’s spokesperson Willow-Jean Prime. ...
Te Pāti Māori are demanding the New Zealand Government support an international independent investigation into mass graves that have been uncovered at two hospitals on the Gaza strip, following weeks of assault by Israeli troops. Among the 392 bodies that have been recovered, are children and elderly civilians. Many of ...
Our two-tiered system for veterans’ support is out of step with our closest partners, and all parties in Parliament should work together to fix it, Labour veterans’ affairs spokesperson Greg O’Connor said. ...
Stripping two Ministers of their portfolios just six months into the job shows Christopher Luxon’s management style is lacking, Labour Leader Chris Hipkins said. ...
Tonight’s court decision to overturn the summons of the Children’s Minister has enabled the Crown to continue making decisions about Māori without evidence, says Te Pāti Māori spokesperson for Children, Mariameno Kapa-Kingi. “The judicial system has this evening told the nation that this government can do whatever they want when ...
It appears Nicola Willis is about to pull the rug out from under the feet of local communities still dealing with the aftermath of last year’s severe weather, and local councils relying on funding to build back from these disasters. ...
The Government is making short-sighted changes to the Resource Management Act (RMA) that will take away environmental protection in favour of short-term profits, Labour’s environment spokesperson Rachel Brooking said today. ...
Labour welcomes the release of the report into the North Island weather events and looks forward to working with the Government to ensure that New Zealand is as prepared as it can be for the next natural disaster. ...
The Labour Party has called for the New Zealand Government to recognise Palestine, as a material step towards progressing the two-State solution needed to achieve a lasting peace in the region. ...
Some of our country’s most important work, stopping the sexual exploitation of children and violent extremism could go along with staff on the frontline at ports and airports. ...
The Government’s Fast Track Approvals Bill will give projects such as new coal mines a ‘get out of jail free’ card to wreak havoc on the environment, Labour Leader Chris Hipkins said today. ...
The government's decision to reintroduce Three Strikes is a destructive and ineffective piece of law-making that will only exacerbate an inherently biased and racist criminal justice system, said Te Pāti Māori Justice Spokesperson, Tākuta Ferris, today. During the time Three Strikes was in place in Aotearoa, Māori and Pasifika received ...
Cuts to frontline hospital staff are not only a broken election promise, it shows the reckless tax cuts have well and truly hit the frontline of the health system, says Labour Health spokesperson Ayesha Verrall. ...
The Green Party has joined the call for public submissions on the fast-track legislation to be extended after the Ombudsman forced the Government to release the list of organisations invited to apply just hours before submissions close. ...
New Zealand’s good work at reducing climate emissions for three years in a row will be undone by the National government’s lack of ambition and scrapping programmes that were making a difference, Labour Party climate spokesperson Megan Woods said today. ...
More essential jobs could be on the chopping block, this time Ministry of Education staff on the school lunches team are set to find out whether they're in line to lose their jobs. ...
Te Pāti Māori is disgusted at the confirmation that hundreds are set to lose their jobs at Oranga Tamariki, and the disestablishment of the Treaty Response Unit. “This act of absolute carelessness and out of touch decision making is committing tamariki to state abuse.” Said Te Pāti Māori Oranga Tamariki ...
The Government is trying to bring in a law that will allow Ministers to cut corners and kill off native species, Labour environment spokesperson Rachel Brooking said. ...
Cancelling urgently needed new Cook Strait ferries and hiking the cost of public transport for many Kiwis so that National can announce the prospect of another tunnel for Wellington is not making good choices, Labour Transport Spokesperson Tangi Utikere said. ...
A laundry list of additional costs for Tāmaki Makarau Auckland shows the Minister for the city is not delivering for the people who live there, says Labour Auckland Issues spokesperson Shanan Halbert. ...
Te Pāti Māori co-leader Rawiri Waititi, and Mema Paremata mō Tāmaki-Makaurau, Takutai Tarsh Kemp, will travel to the Gold Coast to strengthen ties with Māori in Australia next week (15-21 April). The visit, in the lead-up to the 9th Australian National Kapa haka Festival, will be an opportunity for both ...
The Government is modernising insurance law to better protect Kiwis and provide security in the event of a disaster, Commerce and Consumer Affairs Minister Andrew Bayly announced today. “These reforms are long overdue. New Zealand’s insurance law is complicated and dated, some of which is more than 100 years old. ...
The coalition Government is refreshing its approach to supporting pay equity claims as time-limited funding for the Pay Equity Taskforce comes to an end, Public Service Minister Nicola Willis says. “Three years ago, the then-government introduced changes to the Equal Pay Act to support pay equity bargaining. The changes were ...
Structured literacy will change the way New Zealand children learn to read - improving achievement and setting students up for success, Education Minister Erica Stanford says. “Being able to read and write is a fundamental life skill that too many young people are missing out on. Recent data shows that ...
Trade Minister Todd McClay says Canada’s refusal to comply in full with a CPTPP trade dispute ruling in our favour over dairy trade is cynical and New Zealand has no intention of backing down. Mr McClay said he has asked for urgent legal advice in respect of our ‘next move’ ...
The rights of our children and young people will be enhanced by changes the coalition Government will make to strengthen oversight of the Oranga Tamariki system, including restoring a single Children’s Commissioner. “The Government is committed to delivering better public services that care for our most at-risk young people and ...
The Government is making it easier for minor changes to be made to a building consent so building a home is easier and more affordable, Building and Construction Minister Chris Penk says. “The coalition Government is focused on making it easier and cheaper to build homes so we can ...
New Zealand lost a true legend when internationally renowned disability advocate Sir Robert Martin (KNZM) passed away at his home in Whanganui last night, Disabilities Issues Minister Louise Upston says. “Our Government’s thoughts are with his wife Lynda, family and community, those he has worked with, the disability community in ...
Good evening – Before discussing the challenges and opportunities facing New Zealand’s foreign policy, we’d like to first acknowledge the New Zealand Institute of International Affairs. You have contributed to debates about New Zealand foreign policy over a long period of time, and we thank you for hosting us. ...
From today, passengers travelling internationally from Auckland Airport will be able to keep laptops and liquids in their carry-on bags for security screening thanks to new technology, Transport Minister Simeon Brown says. “Creating a more efficient and seamless travel experience is important for holidaymakers and businesses, enabling faster movement through ...
People with an interest in the health of Northland’s marine ecosystems are invited to a public meeting to discuss how to deal with kina barrens, Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones says. Mr Jones will lead the discussion, which will take place on Friday, 10 May, at Awanui Hotel in ...
Kiwi exporters are $100 million better off today with the NZ EU FTA entering into force says Trade Minister Todd McClay. “This is all part of our plan to grow the economy. New Zealand's prosperity depends on international trade, making up 60 per cent of the country’s total economic activity. ...
There are heartening signs that the extractive sector is once again becoming an attractive prospect for investors and a source of economic prosperity for New Zealand, Resources Minister Shane Jones says. “The beginnings of a resurgence in extractive industries are apparent in media reports of the sector in the past ...
The return of the historic Ō-Rākau battle site to the descendants of those who fought there moved one step closer today with the first reading of Te Pire mō Ō-Rākau, Te Pae o Maumahara / The Ō-Rākau Remembrance Bill. The Bill will entrust the 9.7-hectare battle site, five kilometres west ...
Energy Minister Simeon Brown has announced 25 new high-speed EV charging hubs along key routes between major urban centres and outlined the Government’s plan to supercharge New Zealand’s EV infrastructure. The hubs will each have several chargers and be capable of charging at least four – and up to 10 ...
The coalition Government will not proceed with the previous Government’s plans to regulate residential property managers, Housing Minister Chris Bishop says. “I have written to the Chairperson of the Social Services and Community Committee to inform him that the Government does not intend to support the Residential Property Managers Bill ...
The Government has announced an independent review into the disability support system funded by the Ministry of Disabled People – Whaikaha. Disability Issues Minister Louise Upston says the review will look at what can be done to strengthen the long-term sustainability of Disability Support Services to provide disabled people and ...
Justice Minister Paul Goldsmith has attended the Universal Periodic Review in Geneva and outlined the Government’s plan to restore law and order. “Speaking to the United Nations Human Rights Council provided us with an opportunity to present New Zealand’s human rights progress, priorities, and challenges, while responding to issues and ...
The Government and Rotorua Lakes Council are committed to working closely together to end the use of contracted emergency housing motels in Rotorua. Associate Minister of Housing (Social Housing) Tama Potaka says the Government remains committed to ending the long-term use of contracted emergency housing motels in Rotorua by the ...
Trade Minister Todd McClay heads overseas today for high-level trade talks in the Gulf region, and a key OECD meeting in Paris. Mr McClay will travel to Riyadh to meet with counterparts from Saudi Arabia and the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC). “New Zealand’s goods and services exports to the Gulf region ...
Education Minister Erica Stanford has outlined six education priorities to deliver a world-leading education system that sets Kiwi kids up for future success. “I’m putting ambition, achievement and outcomes at the heart of our education system. I want every child to be inspired and engaged in their learning so they ...
The new NZ Transport Agency (NZTA) App is a secure ‘one stop shop’ to provide the services drivers need, Transport Minister Simeon Brown and Digitising Government Minister Judith Collins say. “The NZTA App will enable an easier way for Kiwis to pay for Vehicle Registration and Road User Charges (RUC). ...
Whānau with tamariki growing up in emergency housing motels will be prioritised for social housing starting this week, says Associate Housing Minister Tama Potaka. “Giving these whānau a better opportunity to build healthy stable lives for themselves and future generations is an essential part of the Government’s goal of reducing ...
Racing Minister Winston Peters has paid tribute to an icon of the industry with the recent passing of Dave O’Sullivan (OBE). “Our sympathies are with the O’Sullivan family with the sad news of Dave O’Sullivan’s recent passing,” Mr Peters says. “His contribution to racing, initially as a jockey and then ...
Assalaamu alaikum, greetings to you all. Eid Mubarak, everyone! I want to extend my warmest wishes to you and everyone celebrating this joyous occasion. It is a pleasure to be here. I have enjoyed Eid celebrations at Parliament before, but this is my first time joining you as the Minister ...
Associate Health Minister David Seymour has announced Pharmac’s largest ever budget of $6.294 billion over four years, fixing a $1.774 billion fiscal cliff. “Access to medicines is a crucial part of many Kiwis’ lives. We’ve committed to a budget allocation of $1.774 billion over four years so Kiwis are ...
Hon Paula Bennett has been appointed as member and chair of the Pharmac board, Associate Health Minister David Seymour announced today. "Pharmac is a critical part of New Zealand's health system and plays a significant role in ensuring that Kiwis have the best possible access to medicines,” says Mr Seymour. ...
Hundreds of New Zealand families affected by Fetal Alcohol Spectrum Disorder (FASD) will benefit from a new Government focus on prevention and treatment, says Health Minister Dr Shane Reti. “We know FASD is a leading cause of preventable intellectual and neurodevelopmental disability in New Zealand,” Dr Reti says. “Every day, ...
Regional Development Minister Shane Jones today attended the official opening of Kaikohe’s new $14.7 million sports complex. “The completion of the Kaikohe Multi Sports Complex is a fantastic achievement for the Far North,” Mr Jones says. “This facility not only fulfils a long-held dream for local athletes, but also creates ...
Foreign Minister Winston Peters’ engagements in Türkiye this week underlined the importance of diplomacy to meet growing global challenges. “Returning to the Gallipoli Peninsula to represent New Zealand at Anzac commemorations was a sombre reminder of the critical importance of diplomacy for de-escalating conflicts and easing tensions,” Mr Peters ...
Ambassador Millar, Burgemeester, Vandepitte, Excellencies, military representatives, distinguished guests, ladies and gentlemen – good morning and welcome to this sacred Anzac Day dawn service. It is an honour to be here on behalf of the Government and people of New Zealand at Buttes New British Cemetery, Polygon Wood – a deeply ...
Distinguished guests - It is an honour to return once again to this site which, as the resting place for so many of our war-dead, has become a sacred place for generations of New Zealanders. Our presence here and at the other special spaces of Gallipoli is made ...
Mai ia tawhiti pamamao, te moana nui a Kiwa, kua tae whakaiti mai matou, ki to koutou papa whenua. No koutou te tapuwae, no matou te tapuwae, kua honoa pumautia. Ko nga toa kua hinga nei, o te Waipounamu, o te Ika a Maui, he okioki tahi me o ...
Paul Goldsmith will take on responsibility for the Media and Communications portfolio, while Louise Upston will pick up the Disability Issues portfolio, Prime Minister Christopher Luxon announced today. “Our Government is relentlessly focused on getting New Zealand back on track. As issues change in prominence, I plan to adjust Ministerial ...
Recreational catch limits will be reduced in areas of Fiordland and the Chatham Islands to help keep those fisheries healthy and sustainable, Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones says. The lower recreational daily catch limits for a range of finfish and shellfish species caught in the Fiordland Marine Area and ...
Energy Minister Simeon Brown has welcomed an important milestone in New Zealand’s hydrogen future, with the opening of the country’s first network of hydrogen refuelling stations in Wiri. “I want to congratulate the team at Hiringa Energy and its partners K one W one (K1W1), Mitsui & Co New Zealand ...
The coalition Government is delivering on its commitment to improve resource management laws and give greater certainty to consent applicants, with a Bill to amend the Resource Management Act (RMA) expected to be introduced to Parliament next month. RMA Reform Minister Chris Bishop has today outlined the first RMA Amendment ...
Overseas models for regulating the oil and gas sector, including their decommissioning regimes, are being carefully scrutinised as a potential template for New Zealand’s own sector, Resources Minister Shane Jones says. The Coalition Government is focused on rebuilding investor confidence in New Zealand’s energy sector as it looks to strengthen ...
Emergency Management and Recovery Minister Mark Mitchell has today released the Report of the Government Inquiry into the response to the North Island Severe Weather Events. “The report shows that New Zealand’s emergency management system is not fit-for-purpose and there are some significant gaps we need to address,” Mr Mitchell ...
Justice Minister Paul Goldsmith is today travelling to Europe where he’ll update the United Nations Human Rights Council on the Government’s work to restore law and order. “Attending the Universal Periodic Review in Geneva provides us with an opportunity to present New Zealand’s human rights progress, priorities, and challenges, while ...
Associate Agriculture Minister, Mark Patterson, formally reopened the world’s largest wool processing facility today in Awatoto, Napier, following a $50 million rebuild and refurbishment project. “The reopening of this facility will significantly lift the economic opportunities available to New Zealand’s wool sector, which already accounts for 20 per cent of ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Ben Beaglehole, Senior Lecturer, Department of Psychological Medicine, University of Otago niphon/Getty Images The number of people accessing medication for attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) in Aotearoa New Zealand increased significantly between 2006 and 2022. But the disorder is still under-diagnosed and ...
To celebrate the start of New Zealand music month, we look back at the best local tuneage that managed to weasel its way into Hollywood productions. There’s nothing quite like the thrilling zap of recognition when New Zealand weasels its way into a glamorous Hollywood production. Crack open a Tui ...
People trust other people more than institutions. So how can the media gain that trust through journalists without losing what’s important about the institution? Anna Rawhiti-Connell reflects on two years of curating the news for The Bulletin.Amonth ago, armed cops descended on my neighbourhood as calls to “lock your ...
A warning – suicide is discussed in this podcast New Zealand’s own long-running soap Shortland Street doesn’t hesitate to kill off its much-loved characters. But would TVNZ dare to kill off our favourite soap? That’s the fear as times get tough in television – even though it’s been pointed out ...
Essay: If the Crown harms children, how do you hold it accountable? Analysis by Aaron Smale in light of the Waitangi Tribunal court decision. The post The Crown versus Māori Children appeared first on Newsroom. ...
Opinion: PFAS – per- and polyfluoroalkyl substances – are a class of thousands of man-made chemicals used widely in everyday consumer items such as textiles, packaging, and cookware, popular for their water, grease and stain-repellent properties. However, the very properties that make PFAS so attractive to manufacturers are also what ...
NONFICTION 1 The Last Secret Agent by Pippa Latour & Jude Dobson (Allen & Unwin, $37.99)’ This is the hottest book in New Zealand, number one with a bullet in its first week, selling more than any overseas title, and demand is so huge that it’s already been reprinted. A ...
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Asia Pacific Report A West Papuan resistance leader has condemned the United Nations role in allowing Indonesia to “integrate” the Melanesian Pacific region in what is claimed to be an “egregious act of inhumanity” on 1 May 1963. In an open letter to UN Secretary-General António Guterres, Organisasi Papua Merdeka-OPM ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Michelle Grattan, Professorial Fellow, University of Canberra A key part of the Albanese government’s political strategy is to fill the news cycle with its presence and messaging. Ministers are deployed to the maximum, even when they’ve little to say. This week ...
Recent extreme weather events showed the importance of a well-functioning insurance system, says Commerce and Consumer Affairs minister Andrew Bayly. ...
By Jo Moir, RNZ News political editor, and Craig McCulloch, deputy political editor New Zealand’s Labour Party is demanding Winston Peters be stood down as Foreign Minister for opening up the government to legal action over his “totally unacceptable” attack on a prominent AUKUS critic. In an interview on RNZ’s ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Christian Brakenridge, Postdoctoral research fellow at Swinburne University, Centre for Urban Transitions, Baker Heart and Diabetes Institute The Conversation, Gorodenkoff/Shutterstock People have a pretty intuitive sense of what is healthy – standing is better than sitting, exercise is great for overall ...
The Wellington-based Reserve Force soldier is now almost three years into his New Zealand Army career with 5th/7th Battalion, Royal New Zealand Infantry Regiment. ...
"The Government needs to release the review immediately as this reckless approach to change risks disjointed decision making and creates more distress and uncertainty for staff," Fitzsimons said. ...
By Koroi Hawkins, RNZ Pacific editor Jeremiah Manele has been elected Prime Minister of Solomon Islands, polling 31 votes to 18 over rival candidate and former opposition leader Mathew Wale with one abstention. The final result of the election by secret ballot was announced by the Governor-General, Sir David Vunagi, ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Priestley Habru, PhD candidate, public diplomacy, University of Adelaide Former foreign minister Jeremiah Manele has been elected the next prime minister of Solomon Islands, defeating the opposition leader, Matthew Wale, in a vote in parliament. The result is a mixed bag for ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Shaun Eaves, Senior Lecturer in Physical Geography, Te Herenga Waka — Victoria University of Wellington Jamey Stutz, CC BY-SA How often do mountains collapse, volcanoes erupt or ice sheets melt? For Earth scientists, these are important questions as we try ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Michael Flood, Professor of Sociology, Queensland University of Technology Shutterstock Most young adult men in Australia reject traditional ideas of masculinity that endorse aggression, stoicism and homophobia. Nonetheless, the ongoing influence of those ideas continues to harm men and the people ...
The NZQA proposal released to staff today would involve a net loss of 35 roles. There are 66 roles being disestablished with 13 of those currently vacant, and 31 new roles proposed, said Fleur Fitzsimons Public Service Association Te Pūkenga Here Tikanga ...
Alex Casey talks to Loren Taylor, the writer, director and star of new film The Moon is Upside Down, about assembling her dream ensemble cast, toilet paper pads and turning literal dreams into reality. There’s a moment in The Moon is Upside Down where frazzled anaesthetist Briar (Loren Taylor) gets ...
Renters and realtors are upset with a government decision to scrap a bill meant to regulate property managers over concerns about unethical and unlawful behaviours. ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Cassy Dittman, Senior Lecturer/Head of Course (Undergraduate Psychology), Research Fellow, Manna Institute, CQUniversity Australia With winter sports swinging into action, adults around the country have volunteered or been volunteered by others (humorously known as being “volun-told”) to coach junior sports teams. ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Karleen Gribble, Adjunct Associate Professor, School of Nursing and Midwifery, Western Sydney University richardernestyap/Shutterstock Parents are often advised to burp their babies after feeding them. Some people think burping after feeding is important to reduce or prevent discomfort crying, or to ...
Workers at a major ASB contact centre in Auckland have voted to take strike action and withdraw their labour following disappointing pay negotiations with the employer and an "offer" to workers that would leave them worse off than the previous year. ...
As the government tries to get the country back on track with a school phone ban, Tara Ward has an idea for where they should turn their attention to next.New Zealand students returned to school on Monday morning, but their cellphones did not. The government’s new phone ban began ...
The Labour Party is demanding Peters be stood down, saying "he's embarrassed the country" with a "totally unacceptable" attack on a prominent AUKUS critic. ...
The Inter-Parliamentary Alliance, whose members were victims of a China-backed cyber attack, is discussing forming a standing committee to deal with foreign influence. ...
The PSA is concerned that the voluntary redundancies being offered to staff by Stats NZ will impact on the agency’s ability to deliver on its core functions. ...
Results ranged from surprisingly yum to soul-destroying. I love cooking. The kitchen is a hearth of culinary creation, of sensory delights, of gastronomic poetry. I also can’t afford anything nice. Why does a pack of instant noodles and some milk cost ten bucks? I love you, Aotearoa, but I miss ...
By Koroi Hawkins, RNZ Pacific editor Police in Solomon Islands are on high alert ahead of the election of the prime minister today. The two candidates for the top job are former foreign affairs minister Jeremiah Manele at the head of the Coalition for National Unity and Transformation, which is ...
He’s fine but it feels like I’m losing a friend and it’s making me bitter. How do I say ‘enough is enough’? Want Hera’s help? Email your problem to helpme@thespinoff.co.nzHey Hera,I’ve recently moved in with a girlfriend, her partner Steve, and his friend. We all live in a lovely little house. ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Nick Chartres, Senior Research Fellow, Faculty of Medicine & Health, University of Sydney shutterstockAhmet Misirligul/Shutterstock You go to the gym, eat healthy and walk as much as possible. You wash your hands and get vaccinated. You control your health. This is ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Jacqueline Hendriks, Research Fellow and Lecturer, Curtin University Children and young people may be seeing news headlines about men murdering women or footage of people rallying to call for action. Perhaps they or their friends have even gone to the protests. ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Jessica Balanzategui, Senior Lecturer in Media, RMIT University ABC “Bluey mania” shows no sign of abating. Bluey’s season finale, The Sign, was the most viewed ABC program of all time on iView. A “hidden” follow-up episode, aptly named The Surprise, created ...
Labour market figures came in softer than the Reserve Bank had forecast, but they won’t be enough to move the needle on interest rates, writes Catherine McGregor in this excerpt from The Bulletin, The Spinoff’s morning news round-up. To receive The Bulletin in full each weekday, sign up here. Unemployment ...
The campaign will engage the community and encourage submissions on the bill to the New Zealand government by the closing submission deadline of Friday 31st of May 2024 4pm. ...
The paper raises concerns about declining trust in New Zealand's political institutions and democratic processes, and the role that the overuse of Parliamentary urgency plays in that. ...
The Urban Habitat Collective was an attempt to built an innovative new form of apartment building in Wellington. Here’s why it failed, and why the idea could still work, writes co-founder Bronwen Newton. When we started the Urban Habitat Collective in November 2018, we thought we were starting a revolution, ...
Two decades ago this week, a controversial law that attempted to define ownership of the foreshore and seabed prompted a formidable display of outrage and kōtahitanga as 15,000 marched to parliament. Jamie Tahana looks back.‘Hīkoi, hīkoi,” they chanted by the thousands as the biggest Māori march in a generation ...
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Why has New Zealand slipped from third to 12th on Quality of Death Indexes over the past decade or so? Hospice New Zealand Chief Executive Wayne Naylor has a list of reasons. “We don’t have a current national strategy – the Government hasn’t renewed our 2001 strategy, so we don’t ...
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On an unusually hot night in January 2019, a little boy’s lifeless body was found face up in a small town’s sewage oxidation pond. To the police, it was an open and shut case: three-year-old Lachlan Jones had run away from his home in the Southland town of Gore, climbed ...
On a lighter note …
Final series of Wellington Paranormal starts tonight. Great timing for the local police!
Minogue and O'Leary are the cops we need right now.
That is good news. Minogue is one of those characters that I start smiling at when I see him.
He was great (same sort of character) in the documentary () Talkback.
That TVNZ platform has to be the worst streaming service I have used, however.
Any Catholics among us?
Did you know the Catholic Church is also divided over vaccines?
Cardinals and Bishops have been speaking out worldwide.
Here is a important message from one of them. While it is directed at the Canadian protest, it also applies to us
So for those that are interested to hear more, here is Archbishop Viganò's important message to the Canadian truckers.
And for the haters and those that aren't, please move along.
Vigano. Trump fan. Totally reliable guy. Not much support from Catholics at all.
Many Catholic leaders further distanced themselves from Viganò and his remarks, which the Catholic News Agency described as "apocalyptic claims about a looming spiritual battle and a globalist conspiracy pursuing a one-world government." Viganò accused Pope Francis of following the 'homosexual agenda of the New World Order conspiracy theory. (Wikipedia)
'Many', yes, they do. But there is good reasoning behind that. Namely, funding.
Even my local priest supports Vigano, thus many others do to. Some openly, others behind closed doors so to speak.
By the way, associating him with Trump claiming he is unreliable is called playing the man. And most know what that means, thus what game your playing.
The Chairman, there is a reason, and I emphasise that word 'reason', why some of us, having left the Church for disagreeing with homophobic, misogynist. child-molesting, planned-giving taking, authoritarian teachings and practice, are glad that we left then, for we surely should now…..
A growing number are starting to see the light and are joining Vigano.
I'm not so sure they are seeing the Light, The Chairman. The Chairman is, of course, the Pope as he sits on St Peter's Chair, Cathedra Petri, did you know?
It still exists, so they say……
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chair_of_Saint_Peter
What does Pope Francis say, about Covid?
It takes a certain type of believer to see Vigano's light.
https://twitter.com/jackmjenkins/status/1453430246053761024
The Zoroastrians are using Mishra to constrain these unholy satellites.
https://www.spaceweather.com/images2022/15feb22/farsideexplosion_strip_opt.gif
Oh dear, read a letter from Vigano November 2020. Biden, electoral fraud, deep state, an enslaved deep Church, Masons, satan, unholy pacts, Jesuits, covid a seasonal 'flu, the "Great Reset".
https://www.qoa.life/blogs/news/letter-on-biden-covid-and-the-usccb/
Makes Brian Tamaki almost look reasonable.
Yes it's pretty out there stuff for those that actually know little about what's really going on. But for us in the know, it's pretty much bang on.
Some say he is sounding like Alex Jones. But more and more are awaking to this corporate reset and the fourth industrial revolution.
As Klaus Schwab says, the future is here.
Pope Francis supports Klaus Schwab
https://holyseemission.org/contents/press_releases/55e34d372bbb38.44896435.php
I like this bit.
"It also calls for decisions, mechanisms and processes directed to a better distribution of wealth, the creation of sources of employment and an integral promotion of the poor which goes beyond a simple welfare mentality."
Whether either Franciscus PP or Klaus Schwab agrees with Vignano has not been addressed.
How has the segregation, vaccines and mandates impacted upon your life?
I have family on both sides, thus it has created a divide within the family.
I have a vaccine injured family member that can get his injurie acknowledged, thus no treatment for it.
There is more, but this will do for now.
So again, how has it impacted you and yours?
What segregation? The 5% unvaccinated are among us wherever we go.
My booster laid me flat the next day, but am all good now. Apparently it's a sign of good immune response.
I know a couple of former co-workers have been mandated out but struggle to pick who they were. They will be back.
So, no impacts apart from a little inconvenience having to turn up 15 minutes earlier to work for RAT testing, and having to wear a mask at work all day.
The one Jacinda so happily announced. You know? It is what it is. Seem you have no problem with that as it is only 5%. And of course not you. Is that correct?
Seems you don't care about them either. Is that correct?
But good to know it's only a little inconvenience for you
Tell me, do you struggle to put ones self into someone else shoes?
I always care about other people. That's why I've done my social duty and become vaccinated.
It is anti-vaxxers who refuse to put themselves in the shoes of others. It is incredibly selfish.
You care about others apart from the others who are no longer allowed into pubs, restaurants and attend their children's sports?
They should do their social duty and get vaccinated, or wait.
It is that simple.
Muttonbird 2022
"I always care about other people. "
Muttonbird 2020
I don't give a shit about Italy. The country is filthy. They all smoke. They all live with their elderly parents. Their health system is dire.
Fuck 'em.
Nice how some people improve themselves over the years, innit. Especially when they alter views in the light of new evidence.
Yep, guilty. I certainly was a sceptic for about a week. This was before the NZ government announced Covid support.
I was terrified we were all going to have to live off savings.
Shucks, another fan with all my quotes on seed dial.
Covid deaths/million:
Italy – 2515
NZ – 11
Of course you are following the
weekly fortnightlymonthly Medsafe reports?You'll be aware then that in the month covered in the latest report the number of reports of anaphylaxis has tripled. Yes, tripled.
For the year to 31st December 2021 there were 112 reports of anaphylaxis from the Pfizer product. To the 31st January…353.
Let that sink in for a bit.
The number of reports of Myo/pericarditis has gone up too…from 455 to 561…but its still very rare/sarc
Deaths up from 133 to 147… but of course they're only acknowledging two of them.
But you're all good Muttonbird?
That's all that matters then.
As you are very well aware these Vaers posts are self reported and any and all sorts of rubbish not caused by the vaccines are posted there.
The only things worth looking at are the figures that have been analysed. It is just raw data. I only pay attention to the analyses. As the topic has been discussed on here exhaustively I can only assume that you are disregarding the value and limitations of this reporting for your own purposes.
So I am very happy with my vaccination experiences.
As you are very well aware these Vaers posts are self reported and any and all sorts of rubbish not caused by the vaccines are posted there.
Again. Where are the moderators when someone is writing rubbish? Telling lies and spreading gross misinformation?
The links I provided….did you actually bother to open and read them?
This is NZ…not the US where VAERS is the official government vaccine adverse reaction reporting system. Reporting to VAERS, incidentally, is by no means a simple process and some argue it is made even more difficult for doctors and others who are time constrained as if the multi- page form is not completed in one session and you are timed, out all your entries are lost and you have to begin again. However, I digress.
If you had bothered to open the links and actually read your way through the reports you would have found the very handy list of how many of which type of person is reporting. Public…less than half. Professionals make up the majority of the balance.
A bit rude and disrespectful dismissing their reports as "rubbish".
This is not 'raw data' in the main. It has been sorted and categorized and the huge bulk of reports have been deemed inconsequential.
The the facts remain…the total number of reported cases of anaphylaxis has tripled in one month.
Of that you have nothing to say. You are just keyboard gumbeating.
Delighted that your vaccination experience was painless and positive.
Of course, in Shanreagh world, only Shanreagh's experiences count.
Be kind, eh.
Rosemary, we have been through the value or not of these reports many many times on TS.
I actually follow them too.
Public patients are by far the most 21, 000 odd. This is what I call raw data and these are among the ones that will be researched to see if they meet the criteria.
We have had two deaths, subject to Coroners opinions. Many treatments or procedures have averse consequences, just try reading the Medsafe leaflet for any commonly prescribed tablets etc.
Unlike you I don't have any great faith in my fellow country people to know the causation/correlation between the vaccines and illnesses. However without anyone providing the raw data we would not have the material for professionals to work through.
I think that for people in the street to make conclusions when they know nothing about the topic is what I call rubbish.
From what I can see the database is just being sorted by the owners of the database. This is commonly done when any public comments are sought and people are looking through them.
Any day of the week you can look at local authorities/govt depts who have sought comments or input from the public. Any day of the week these are being sorted and any day of the week they are being analysed after they have been grouped. Some of the comments/input sought are time limited others are ongoing.
Until the reports behind the collection of inputs are analysed then it is just that, a collection of inputs. The so-called analysing at this stage by unqualified members of the public and the extrapolation that goes on is what I call 'rubbish'
The Pope, who surely is worth more than the rest put together, has supported the vaccines.
I am not a Catholic but surely the view of the Pope is more important that the view of a couple of Bishops?
Do unto others as you would have them do unto you is a key tenet…….as mentioned by Muttonbird.
Not following the views of anyone other than what I can read & digest myself on the Canadian occupation. That a Bishop has spoken does not mean their views are better or worse than anyone else ie the view that opinions are like aXXholes and everybody has them.
I must say though I would be dissuaded from thinking highly of anyone who supported Trump though you can find erudite and thoughtful writing from Republicans in days gone by.
It's far more than merely a couple of Bishops supporting Vigano.
That is merely showing me your one sided view and hatred of Trump.
No don't 'hate' Trump but fully declare and accept he is a nutter. Others often follow nutters, fact of life, unfortunately.
Actually to be quite honest I am not really keen on religion being discussed here.
I accept that clergy have opinions, as we all do. Theirs are no better or worse than my own…ie I give them no greater standing than those of my next door neighbour…..no actually I would probably give him greater acceptance as he is a surgeon .
Again, showing me your one sided view.
When many clergy all of a sudden start sounding like Alex Jones, one has to start wondering why.
Oh dear Alex Jones you say…say no more …..taps side of nose.
You look at as many brain-optional pages as I do.
I don’t need a brain to follow the pages of those whose workings are the product of being brain optional. I find it lessens the time spent trying to fit their works into a rational framework.
What about the other 'segregation' that would exist if there wasn't a vaccine mandate? – the isolation of people particularly vulnerable to the virus? How do you feel about that one?
It's a contest of rights. We're all choosing a side and there will always be losers until this pandemic is over. On the other hand, the mandates for workers facing the public also have the benefit of reducing spread and reducing the chance of another wicked mutation, and overwhelming the health system and its workers.
Of course, there are difficulties that I acknowledge. None worse than those that would be imposed on people vulnerable to the virus, if vaccine mandates that are required for certain jobs and requirements for visiting public places, didn't exist.
We've been here before, with the same challenges around vaccinations and mandates, especially in health emergencies. It won't be forever, but people who lose their lives in this pandemic won't know that, will they?
It is already happening under the current mandates. A number are already making that choice as the vaccines aren't 100% safe or effective.
One thing about the mandates, it has shown people how much the vaccinated can still catch and pass it on. Moreover, still end up in hospital.
A number?
Many are reliant on a functioning health system. "A number" would be a very low number among people with underlying conditions, indeed.
The effectiveness and risk of disease from vaccinated people has been debated elsewhere, so I'll leave that misleading statement alone for now.
Crazy how some people think high risk severe ill health is fine for some but a vaccine that mostly causes a sore arm (yes, I'm aware of the extremely small risk of severe reactions) is too much for others to bear. It's like people don't know how numbers work.
I have had zero reaction from jab-jab- boost. A slight bruise on the arm is all.
All family and friends had jabs and did not need to be mandated. No divide.
More annoyingly I saw a small number of people at the supermarket today strutting around without masks.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/127791479/act-leader-david-seymour-speaks-with-parliament-protesters-as-antimandate-movement-tries-to-gain-legitimacy
David Seymour showing some maturity here, communicating with the protesters who seem well organised and are trying to keep the unruly ones in line
Well, Gordon Campbell's assessment of the situation is excellent!
http://werewolf.co.nz/2022/02/gordon-campbell-on-freedom-and-government-mandates/
That is a good article Robert.
I don't think anything is likely to come from the talks with the protesters, but I think if people feel shut down and no one is prepared to hear their concerns it makes things worse.
The Govt would do well to discuss with the protesters at what point the mandates will end, or even say, they will end we just don't know when.
Also what about trying to get people like the paramedic re deployed into a role where there is no contact with others? Even answering emergency calls?
Apparently an highly experienced negotiator is going to act as a go-between.
Kenny M, is that you trying to insert yourself?
"Two of the girls held me and one hit me and after I fell on the ground, she … was still hitting my face and my body. I was waiting for the teacher to help me," Hoda said.
https://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin/my-hijab-everything-me-oghs-pupil-speaks-out-after-attack
I feel …not anger…but sadness. The poor girl. I bet she's brave. Braver by far than her attackers.
The school would not comment. I wonder what the school actually teaches ?
that was a shocking incident psychlingLeft.Always.
A couple of the kids reflect the sort of attitudes prevalent in our society and you wonder what their school "actually teaches"?
The schools of the fraudsters we read about regularly, the schools of the murderers often in the news, the schools of those who rob dairies, the sexual offenders in the news: do you wonder what their schools taught them/teach them?
Ah, whats that about? These are pupils at a specific school now? And thats all I was specifically talking about. Anyway.
A few weeks ago QLD was where we are now. Over 1000 a day.
Now it is 5200 odd today and 500 000 cases and 9 deaths. Keep safe people.
Yep, but Mrs Hoskings says, "Omicron is mild".
Sorry, but 9 deaths out of 500000 cases?
Probably the common cold would have a higher death rate than that I suspect. Especially with elderly people who have very poor immune systems.
399 deaths in Queensland so far, up from 7 reported in mid December last year. Most of the deaths do appear to be in aged care homes and accompany other illnesses. Queensland dealt with the southern states' Delta outbreaks very well, but at the cost of keeping families apart due to strict border controls. The Omicron wave struck before the booster drive really kkicked into gear and caught the state (as elsewhere by surprise. How many long Covid illnessess and deaths would have happened if Queensland hadn't had such a relatively high vax rate and vaccination mandates in key industries as well as mandated mask wearing in public places no-one will ever know.
9 for the day.
I am concerned about Omicron in ECE centres, schools, rest homes and hospitals. The disruption is going to take a lot of management. Either people think for theirselves or they wait to be told what to do.
That is a good article Robert.
I don't think anything is likely to come from the talks with the protesters, but I think if people feel shut down and no one is prepared to hear their concerns it makes things worse.
The Govt would do well to discuss with the protesters at what point the mandates will end, or even say, they will end we just don't know when.
Also what about trying to get people like the paramedic re deployed into a role where there is no contact with others? Even answering emergency calls?
"Protesters at Parliament say they've been offered the services of a "highly-experienced" mediator to act as a go-between with the Government."
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/police-union-fears-more-confrontation-likely-with-protesters-if-vehicles-towed/VBDBKECYVAJ62OR7REDGZCGQWE/
The mediation will be fun. Imagine the starting positions on each side of the table:
One side: "There is no such thing as Covid, it's just an international plot to take over the world."
Other: "Ummmmmm…."
One side: "The vaccines are experimental, they are made from the foetuses of aborted babies and have microchips in them."
Other: "Ummmmmm…."
Peter
I imagine protesters will be asking for justification for vaccine mandates. Protesters could point out that more than 900 fully vaccinated people contracted the virus today, so the vaccine mandates are redundant and need to be rescinded immediately.
1100-odd cases announced today, no?
So 900 out of 4million, vs 200 out of a quarter million.
looks to me, at a rough count, like unvaccinated people were three and a half times more likely to test positive yesterday than people who had received some vaccination. Sure, it's back of the envelope math with massive holes in it, but a sensible person might want more data on that before we call it "redundant".
When a large majority of those getting the virus are fully vaccinated, you’ll have to do better than suggest the unvaccinated are the problem lol
The problem is covid.
There is part of the problem we can reduce with almost no effort.
Going by your number, if those 250k were vaccinated we'd have 905 cases today, not 1100.
So today the unvaccinated were an avoidable almost 20% of the problem.
Another factor, which I wouldn't know how to calculate, is that unvaccinated people are more likely to be symptomatic, and thus present for a test.
They are advising now not to get a test unless symptomatic. For asymptomatic vaccinated people the testing will not be undertaken at all.
Don't know how much of a factor this will be, but it is one.
hmmm, fair point.
The steampunk in me wants a brass slide-rule to try and bounce all these factors around. There were some amazing slide-based analogue computers before chips came in.
NZ has an opportunity at the moment to collect comprehensive and large scale data on Covid (resources permitting) that researchers will find valuable.
I hope that when we get through this outbreak we will have some meaningful data to help our national response, and others.
Oh, we'll have the data.
One of my favourite moments was looking through the ICD codes (because neeerrrrd), the international classification of diseases so if someone gets a stubbed toe, the ED notes can be translated into an alphanumeric code for analysis. Saves computer space/workload, and makes it possible to distribute anonymous data.
Code Y365 relates to the cause of injury being the effects of nuclear weaponry in a time of war. The classification is decades old. Bureaucrats not only planned for "The Day After", they catered for hospitals to be able to still do patient notes, code the data, and then a bureaucracy to have analysts available just how many people were injured and killed by the apocalypse.
It was just an observation that tickled me years ago.
Thanks for that link. Will no doubt spend more time than I should looking at codes I'll never use.
(May give me kudos when I share with my nerdy kids.)
Something for a good watch, especially for lefties who want to see the ruling elite getting slaughtered….
A really good docu-drama on Netflix: The Last Czars
Great if anyone wants to understand more about the Russian revolution. I certainly learnt a lot of stuff I didn't know.