Daily review 22/06/2020

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1. weka 1

   22 June 2020 at 6:31 pm

   anyone got a tl;dr for the state of NZ and covid in the past few days? I haven't kept up.
   • McFlock 1.1

     22 June 2020 at 6:39 pm

     a couple of cases a day, all during isolation. Probably because they're testing everyone sooner – apparently they were only testing towards the end of isolation, [edit after scanning the covid media releases] and possibly only likely cases at that.
     • solkta 1.1.1

       22 June 2020 at 7:03 pm

       and also a big increase in the numbers coming in including more from high covid countries.
       • McFlock 1.1.1.1

         22 June 2020 at 9:18 pm

         good point
     • weka 1.1.2

       22 June 2020 at 8:54 pm

       ta. That's what I thought but thought I must be missing something because passing by twitter lots of people seem upset.
       • solkta 1.1.2.1

         22 June 2020 at 9:07 pm

         lots of twits on twitter.
         • Sacha 1.1.2.1.1

           23 June 2020 at 8:33 am

           we're flighty
   • Pingao 1.2

     22 June 2020 at 7:13 pm

     I use the Ministry of Health summary

     https://www.health.govt.nz/our-work/diseases-and-conditions/covid-19-novel-coronavirus/covid-19-current-situation/covid-19-current-cases
   • gsays 1.3

     22 June 2020 at 8:50 pm

     Still about the best country to be in.
     • weka 1.3.1

       22 June 2020 at 11:26 pm

       indeed.
2. ianmac 2

   22 June 2020 at 6:39 pm

   Why would there be a surge in those seeking Novid testing recently? There has been no community infections to date. Is the unease caused by the National disinformation and media stirring behind it all?
   • Herodotus 2.1

     22 June 2020 at 6:48 pm

     Out east Auckland there are a large number of families where there are 3 generations living in one place, the same area that the woman who helped out the 2 sisters gym is located. During March the few teachers I have contacts with, all mentioned pre lock down that attendances were below 50%.
   • Anne 2.2

     22 June 2020 at 7:00 pm

     Is the unease caused by the National disinformation and media stirring behind it all?

     Yes. National and their media acolytes are playing mind games with the public and when you add a dose of ignorance of the true state of play, they are running around like scared possums caught in the headlights.

     I have a friend who has fallen for their game and is convinced that Jacinda Ardern and Ashley Bloomfield exclusively have acted irresponsibly and put everyone at risk of catching the virus. She cited the same points that the Nats have been running for the past week.

     If this government think the majority of people are going to see through their game they had better think again.
     • aj 2.2.1

       22 June 2020 at 7:18 pm

       I endorse people getting tested if they think they have symptoms, and it puts their mind at rest. Even if their minds are being screwed around by Woodhouse Hosking et al
       • Anne 2.2.1.1

         22 June 2020 at 7:39 pm

         Fair enough aj.

         But not all of them will have symptoms. Like the friend I mentioned, they have been frightened by the disinformation that the Nats are currently running. They are the ones acting irresponsibly, and they should be called out once and for all by the government and the experts in the field.
         • aj 2.2.1.1.1

           22 June 2020 at 8:04 pm

           I don't disagree Anne, but getting to where we are has relied on people having the brains to front up for tests. And it is essential this continues, so any subterranean covid hiding in the community is found.

           I'm not giving the Nats a break here. They are running a disgusting line while the govt, the public service, and the general public are breaking their backs to keep on top of everything. Reprehensible.
           • Anne 2.2.1.1.1.1

             22 June 2020 at 8:26 pm

             
   • Sacha 2.3

     22 June 2020 at 7:21 pm

     Why would there be a surge in those seeking Novid testing recently?

     Number of people coming back in has doubled.
     • ianmac 2.3.1

       22 June 2020 at 8:42 pm

       Not quite the same question Sacha. It is the general population who are lining up in bigger numbers. This is different from those who are under quarantine.

       Somewhere I came across Bryce whatsit's column and he had rounded up the dozen or so of the most critical writers who all wrote about the "disaster" that Government had created. Just one lonely column in support of keeping things in perspective right at the end.
       • Sacha 2.3.1.1

         23 June 2020 at 8:34 am

         It is the general population who are lining up in bigger numbers.

         Ah, I see what you mean.
   • Draco T Bastard 2.4

     22 June 2020 at 10:18 pm

     Is the unease caused by the National disinformation and media stirring behind it all?

     More than likely. That is, after all, the whole purpose of National's disinformation campaigns.
3. observer 3

   22 June 2020 at 6:47 pm

   David Seymour thinks he's really clever comparing the government to Dad's Army.

   Somebody should tell him they were much-loved characters. And they won.
   • mac1 3.1

     22 June 2020 at 6:58 pm

     They were also volunteers, selfless, community welfare and civic minded, proactive, willing, from all sectors of the community and under-rated.

     Bit like our Labour-led government in many ways.

     At 56% voter support just a trifle under-rated……….
   • Sacha 3.2

     22 June 2020 at 7:41 pm

     'e must be doing the rest home circuit again.

     #HiHiHi
   • Leighton 3.3

     22 June 2020 at 9:13 pm

     "Act was calling for the border to be closed in January and February, but it took the Government until March to act."

     In which alternate universe did that happen, because I'm pretty sure it wasnt the one I have been living in? Is that just a brazen lie?
4. Andre 4

   22 June 2020 at 7:48 pm

   Brutal. "The walk of shame"

   https://twitter.com/riotwomennn/status/1274691849559642115

   https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-helicopter-walk_n_5ef00de1c5b676360572df00
   • Ad 4.1

     22 June 2020 at 10:24 pm

     wooch that's tough
5. ScottGN 5

   22 June 2020 at 7:52 pm

   It’s a terrible thing to say but looking out a couple of weeks from now at the National Party’s strategy, they really need an outbreak of community transmission for their argument to work. If, in a couple of weeks, we’re still only getting cases of new arrivals at the quarantine centres then their whole argument will start to look like overkill. Like it did at the start of the crisis when Ardern put the country into lockdown. And we know how the public reacted to that. They’re charting a dangerous course.
   • observer 5.1

     22 June 2020 at 8:27 pm

     Their problem is that eventually the debate shifts from 1) gov't v opposition, to 2) gov't v alternative gov't (AKA an election campaign).

     I don't blame them for accepting a free hit when there's a screw-up, any opposition party would do that. But then they pivot to "our quarantine would be totally different from the current government's quarantine, except there would be a lot more people to quarantine". As if they would somehow invent new officials, new hotels, new health workers, etc.

     That's a hard sell, even for a much smoother salesman than Todd Muller.
     • ScottGN 5.1.1

       22 June 2020 at 9:18 pm

       I don’t think their thinking goes that far observer. I think they assume that some sort of second wave is inevitable and they are positioning to try and ride that wave into office. Time will tell.
   • Ad 5.2

     22 June 2020 at 10:36 pm

     Health is now National's best attack vector for the election.

     They won't win on it, but they can make good inroads.

     Ardern's government has finally been exposed as brittle and with just one effective leader within Labour.

     All National have to do is keep chipping at the narrow base of the weakest ministers.

     The border outbreaks will keep coming, and public anxiety will increase as well as disbelief when they thought it was over. The Simpson Report now opens up vast fields of further attack lines for National. Whether Woodhouse has the wit to exploit them, well…

     Collins can keep shipping away at Twyford. No one bothers to attack Jones – because he's a total political animal and really hard to outflank.

     Goldsmith just has to sound competent and calm against the stolid but directionless Robertson.

     They made a real mistake putting Chris Bishop into transport. They needed a total animal like Brownlee to monster into Genter and Twyford.

     It's too late for Ardern to fire Clark, so maybe it's just enough for National to roast him slowly. It's their best shot at illustrating the government as brittle: all heart and no spine.
6. anker 6

   22 June 2020 at 8:03 pm

   Yes I have a hunch Nats desperate for community outbreak….

   Still a bit concerned that cases snuck through when people were isolating but not tested.

   But if they are coming from Oz only or mainly then it is credible no cases.
7. McFlock 7

   22 June 2020 at 8:16 pm

   In retrospect, some of these "me, and me, and metoo" guys had pretty lousy poker faces that should have been a giveaway much earlier. Here's one discovering snapchat videos can be saved. The end credits have been added 🙂
   • maggieinnz 7.1

     22 June 2020 at 10:43 pm

     Hahaha, Omg, that was too good! TY for sharing that!
8. Peter Chch 8

   22 June 2020 at 9:07 pm

   'My breakfast was late'.

   Ok, now I am p***** off. They were issued endless warnings to return to NZ before it was too late, but choose to not return until now. They return knowing full well the conditions they will be subject to. Their flights are heavily subsidised by the taxpayer. There motel stay and food are entirely paid for by same taxpayers. Selfish, entitled idiots.

   https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12341861
   • observer 8.1

     22 June 2020 at 9:56 pm

     "Lockdown hell". Try "ICU hell" instead. I'm sure they serve great breakfasts there.

     I mean, having a rant is kind of understandable if they're having a bad day, we've all done that, but to make it some kind of headline news is just … (expletive deleted).

     Breakfast at 9.42 a.m. Somebody call Amnesty International!

     FFS.
   • maggieinnz 8.2

     22 June 2020 at 10:46 pm

     Yep, that was unbelievable – breakfast 12 minutes late and she's in hell.
9. Anker 9

   22 June 2020 at 9:16 pm

   God the my breakfast was late complaint defies belief.

   people need to be told in no uncertain terms if they return to NZ it’s going to be tough. Take it or leave it
   • Janet 9.1

     22 June 2020 at 9:57 pm

     Yes that lament made me irate too –

     "I have done my 14 days, I have tested negative and I am basically being held hostage with no breakfast," she told the Herald.

     Maybe they should have to be quarantined for 14 days before they fly home .. and then quarantined again here – and pay for it all themselves as some returning home to Pacific Islands have had to do.

     Better we shut the gates and wait to Covid subsides around the world.
     • Anne 9.1.1

       22 June 2020 at 10:05 pm

       A 21 year old entitled brat! Needs a metaphorical kick up the backside.
10. Patricia Bremner 10

    22 June 2020 at 10:39 pm

    Listening to Jack Tame's guest Rodney Jones "Those whingeing have made the Lifeboat and moaning about getting wet" Yes Yes I couldn't agree more. They are saved.
    • mac1 10.1

      22 June 2020 at 10:46 pm

      Make ’em row!

      That’s ‘ow’ as in ‘though’ not as in ‘bough’. They already can do that………
11. Adrian 11

    22 June 2020 at 11:53 pm

    The more of them that complain the m ore the Nat’s look opportunistic and the attacks will backfire.

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