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Mallard wtf?

Written By: - Date published: 7:52 am, February 4th, 2013 - 88 comments
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Is an absurd public endorsement by someone as politically damaged as Trevor Mallard actually an endorsement or is Trevor trying to undermine his leader? That’s a question I’m asking myself after reading Audrey Young’s piece on the caucus vote today. A piece in which a giddy sounding Trevor Mallard describes Shearer as like Norman Kirk. I kid you not:

But Mr Mallard, in his thank-you speech, likened Mr Shearer’s speech to the first he heard from Mr Kirk on the steps of the Wellington City Library in 1972, the year of his landslide win.

To be fair to Shearer he’s stuttering a bit less these days but “Norman Kirk”? What’s Trevor’s next claim? Phil Goff reminds him of Ghandi? Annette King is New Zealand’s answer to Mother Teresa? Between this and his absurd play for speaker it seems Trevor’s (hopefully imminent) retirement plan is stand-up comedy. He certainly gave me a laugh this morning…

88 comments on “Mallard wtf?”

  1. Socialist Paddy 1

    Edddie, how dare you be so disloyal to the brains trust of the party. Don’t you know that Mallard has a cunning plan that will lead the party to salvation any minute now and the 2014 election is in the bag … or is that 2017 … or is that 2020 …

  2. vto 2

    Is there anyone in the New Zealand political sphere with the potential to be a Kirk? Or a Savage, or a Ghandi, or a Churchill or a Lincoln?

    Doesn’t seem like it. Certainly not in the ‘senior’ ranks of any current political party.

    Why is that? Lack of quality and skills? Or lack of balls? I suspect balls

    edit: funny how so few great leaders come from the conservatives ……..

    • Afewknowthetruth 2.1

      Lack of intelligence, lack of knowledge, lack of integrity. lack of socialist values……and people still vote for the lying fuckwit.

      Which just goes to show there is no hope.

  3. Te Reo Putake 3

    Eddie, you probably need top expand on your difficulty with Mallard’s statement. Comparing a new leader to an previous one is pretty normal stuff. It’s you that reaches for hyperbole, not Mallard, so wtf?

    • Kevin Welsh 3.1

      Seems strange that Mallard would compare a centre right politician like Shearer to a solid left politician like Kirk.

      Bit like comparing Savage to Muldoon.

      • Tom Gould 3.1.1

        It was Kirk who embraced the super plan conceived and developed by Roger Douglas, which Muldoon subsequently dropped.

  4. karol 4

    Interesting that neither the Herald nor Stuff are now expecting a 100% support for Shearer.

    Also, I see the caucus meet and vote is happening in Henderson, Auckland. Damn! That’s my home borough!. If it’s anywhere near the centre of Henderson I could walk on down and hang out, in the entrance, with a placard saying “let the whole party vote for leader.”

    Shearer is no Kirk – not even close. And that is not just with respect to Shearer’s limitations as speaker, but in terms of what they stand for – or in Shearer’s case, that we don’t know what he stands for.

    • Wayne 4.1

      But you vote Green

      • karol 4.1.1

        Yes, but voting Green is just my decision given the state of the other parties at the moment. Also the state of the Labour caucus is crucial to the kind of government the Greens may or may not be part of .

        Furthermore, I would be more likely to party vote Labour in the future if the caucus became more democratic; decisively, explicitly and clearly ditched neoliberalism; and returned to its true Labour movement roots.

        • Tim 4.1.1.1

          “Furthermore, I would be more likely to party vote Labour in the future if the caucus became more democratic; decisively, explicitly and clearly ditched neoliberalism; and returned to its true Labour movement roots.”

          And THAT pretty much sums up the way a lot of friends and extended family I know think -even those that have never voted anything other than Labour.

          It was bad enough that Labour decided to have a lay down and a cup of tea in their third term, instead of siezing the opportunity to back out some of the previous Nats little gems. This is probably when the current ABC/old guard/hacks learned their crappy attitude.

        • Te Reo Putake 4.1.1.2

          “Furthermore, I would be more likely to party vote Labour in the future if the caucus became more democratic; decisively, explicitly and clearly ditched neoliberalism; and returned to its true Labour movement roots.”

          And, if they don’t meet your demands, Karol, you’ll vote to enable a National government?

          • IrishBill 4.1.1.2.1

            Don’t be a dick, TRP.

            • Te Reo Putake 4.1.1.2.1.1

              What’s the prob, Irish? You know the equation; either Labour wins the electorate seats or National or National’s proxy’s do. Mana honorably excepted, of course. There was one sufferer of an Infantile Disorder here recently who wanted a third term of National because it might, maybe, just possibly, against all the odds, convert the Labour Party into a democratic socialist vanguard or some-such nonsense.

              Electorate voting Labour is a practical reality under MMP, but it’s also an interesting dilemma for lefties who don’t much like Labour.

              Vote Dead Rat, You Know it Makes Sense!

              • Um TRP Karol explicitly said “party vote” and you then talk about electorate voting.

                She has made it clear that she is thinking the Green – Mana end of the spectrum for her party but has voted Cunliffe for the electorate vote.

                She has made her thinking exquisitely clear and deserves respect.

                • Te Reo Putake

                  “Yes, but voting Green is just my decision given the state of the other parties at the moment. Also the state of the Labour caucus is crucial to the kind of government the Greens may or may not be part of .

                  Furthermore, I would be more likely to party vote Labour in the future if the caucus became more democratic; decisively, explicitly and clearly ditched neoliberalism; and returned to its true Labour movement roots.”

                  – karol

                  The first para indicates karol is voting green and the second goes on to say she is ‘more likely’ to party vote Labour if …

                  Now, I’m no big city lawyer, but it appears the default position is two ticks green, but karol could be persuaded to give one tick to Labour in certain circumstances.

                  Having said that, no offence meant karol, as I said above, the dead rat option is going to make the difference this election. It’s worth talking about.

                  • felixviper

                    It’s nice of you to fauxpologise for offense, but it doesn’t seem particularly sincere having just repeated the misrepresentation.

                    Please point to the bit of karol’s comment that indicates or even implies “two ticks green”.

                  • karol

                    TRP, my electorate vote goes to (surprise?!), the candidate rather than the party. And it’s now likely that I will be back living in New Lynn by next election. Therefore, I’ll probably vote exactly the way I have done for the last 2 or 3 elections. Green Party & Cunliffe,

                    • Te Reo Putake

                      Cheers, karol, I’m sure DC will be genuinely grateful for the support and its great that you will have an MP that comes close to your own values. However, I hope others in tight electorates get the point I’m making and don’t worry so much about the quality (or otherwise) of their Labour candidate, but focus on preventing their local Tory from winning the seat.

                    • Agreed TRP but …

                      I told two of my sisters who live in the Epsom electorate to vote for Paul Goldsmith. I said that if they said two hail marys and did a sign of the cross they would be ok!

                      Both subsequently admitted to me that they got into the polling booth, obtained the papers, put the pen in their hands and … could not do it!

                    • Te Reo Putake

                      Good point, MS. I have one of my kids in Epsom too and she too struggled with that vote. I did suggest to her that the Epsom Tories would do as they were told and back Banks so it might be a waste of time voting for Goldsmith, but, if nothing else, she now understands MMP better than most.

    • JK 4.2

      Karol- they’re probably meeting at that big hotel/convention place in Lincoln Rd – somewhere near the stadium, I’ve forgotten what its called. That’s where Labour usually goes when in Waitakere.

  5. IrishBill 5

    I’m pretty sure that Trev’s comment constitutes blasphemy in Labour circles.

  6. KhandallaViper 6

    From a blog stream yesterday

    “The performance of our Party Election Strategist, Lord Trevor of Wainouimata in Hutt South is equally worrying: Party vote in 2005 48%, 2008 43% and in 201- 36%.”

    Yep you won’t win when taking advice from Trevor.

  7. bad12 7

    I think that Trev is being out-right insulting to the memory of Norm Kirk who i consider to be the last great Socialist Prime Minister of New Zealand,

    I don’t see Labour being able to make any political capital from attaching Shearer’s name to Kirk, any of us that remember Big Norm see not an iota of similarity…

  8. ak 8

    Wave your magic wand and bring back Savage, Kirk, Gandhi, JC himself: then sit back and watch them either totally ignored or subtly undermined and derided by selection of soundbite and quote.

    Dig about and listen to Savage – and try to call him a great orator.

    The media is the message. Privately owned and right-dominated for ever, obscenely blatant in recent years, from Fox right down to our own provincial give-aways.

    By-pass it via the new tech and good old-fashioned work on the streets and in the halls, or fall victim to the divide-and-conquer curse of all oppressed groups. Turn your anger inward, and welcome back feudalism.

  9. Draco T Bastard 9

    …whom Shearer loyalist Trevor Mallard is likening to the late Labour Prime Minister Norman Kirk.

    Ha, no way. Shearer hasn’t got anything close to the gravitas that Kirk had.

    • Anne 9.1

      @DTB
      Hear hear! I can think of a few former Labour politicians still alive today – all who attained greater seniority in their respective parliamentary caucuses than Mallard – who would be flabbergasted. I can also think of a former Labour politician currently ensconced in New York whose eyebrows will be significantly raised.

      How about Mallard take a few lessons from those venerable Labour pollies. They know far more than he will ever know.

  10. Te Reo Putake 10

    “But Mr Mallard, in his thank-you speech, likened Mr Shearer’s speech to the first he heard from Mr Kirk on the steps of the Wellington City Library in 1972, the year of his landslide win.”

    So not comparing Shearer and Kirk at all, but comparing two speeches on housing policy. Post Fail.

    • Pascal's bookie 10.1

      “They are both real Kiwis but both are a bit diffident.”

      Other politicians of the day such as Sir Robert Muldoon and Bob Tizard were much more in your face, “whereas Kirk and Shearer would be more like the people down at the footy club”.

    • Draco T Bastard 10.2

      No, I’d say that the fail was your in that you failed to read the linked spiel.

    • JK 10.3

      Nope TRP – Mallard is also referring to Shearer’s personality as well. Didn’t you read his final comments? This is an extraordinarily inept statement from Mallard.

      “Mr Mallard said there were other similarities too. “They are both real Kiwis but both are a bit diffident.”

      Other politicians of the day such as Sir Robert Muldoon and Bob Tizard were much more in your face, “whereas Kirk and Shearer would be more like the people down at the footy club”.

      • karol 10.3.1

        “whereas Kirk and Shearer would be more like the people down at the footy club”.

        Great. I haven’t been near those places since my youth in the company of my Muldoonist father. I guess they did have a down-to-earth ordinariness about them. However, the solidly patriarchal nature of such places put me off them for the rest of my life. Surely left wing politics have moved on from such contexts now?

        … or, on second thoughts, maybe not. Perhaps that is why Team Shearer always seems a bit male-dominated/masculinist to me. The core of that Team is harking back to a time when men were dominant and women made the tea.

        • Draco T Bastard 10.3.1.1

          +1

          Both Key and Shearer have been trying to come across the mans man.

        • JK 10.3.1.2

          Karol – at 8.46am – I totally agree. At one time, Labour attracted women’s votes which helped with its majority wins. I don’t see that happening in the future under this lot of male chauvinist ….. as leaders !

      • the sprout 10.3.2

        Superbly one eyed TRP.
        To liken Shearer to Kirk is truly absurd and somewhat insulting to the Kirk legacy, but then that’s Trevor.
        He reminds me of a cancer singing the praises of its host.

  11. hush minx 11

    What’s that saying about judging the quality of leader by those who surround him (or her)? I for one hope there’s a decent number of mps who vote to show we deserve better.

    • Draco T Bastard 11.1

      The corollary would be You can tell the quality of a person by their enemies

      but the one that Shearer should be concerned with is With friends like these, who needs enemies.

  12. So we have Mike Williams on TV3 saying Shearer is the man and he is improving he is
    also getting training for his mumbling,bumbling etc,now Mallard, if any leader is worth
    a grain of salt, they should stand tall in their own right,not have questionable mouthpeices
    that try to persuade those inside caucus, via the media.

    • …yeah, and what a pity they don’t spend more time “working the media” for hits against National rather than peer pressure messages to themselves.

  13. David H 13

    Well here’s hoping that the caucus puts the leadership vote where it belongs and thats NOT only in their hands. But I fear another bullshit vote.

  14. mike 14

    Bloody hell, there’s no one like us for bagging our own. All you hollier-than-thou’s should breeze off an vote for NACT, come on you know you want to! Why else would you try to hollow out our side from within

    • Mike, you really truly don’t understand the meaning of ‘democracy,’ yes we still have
      democracy in NZ and we can think and say what the hell we like.
      We demand better leadership for the Labour Party, we demand a democraticly elected
      leader,not a caucas installed one,until the members and affiliates are given that chance
      the rhetoric will continue.
      I and my extended family worship the memory of Kirk and Lange, The current leader
      doesn’t come anywhere near the greatness of those two leaders.

      • Smith 14.1.1

        Kirk – wow NZ could only hope that even mildly comparable talent ever graces our seat of legislative power again. A candidate Kiwis could overlook the negligible difference between our two major political parties for, somebody who could “sell” Middle NZ a future they can believe in. Johnny does well (because his critics are feckless themselves) but Goff 2.0 is rudderless and going nowhere fast.

        As for the Lange legacy – you’re not forgetting who knowingly lead us down the garden path only for Bolger et al to deliver the coup de grace in 1990 are you? A real statesman, the likes of which we’ve yet to see again, but nonetheless somebody who took a gamble on this country’s future and fucked up big time.

    • David H 14.2

      Mike. If you don’t like it, then just make like Sex and Travel.

  15. Skinny 15

    That’s it Mallard line your leader up for ridicule, comparing him to Kirk is an insult to people’s intelligence. Robertson has more in similarity with Kirk, apart from being gay. I guess the insult could have been worst, comparing him to Bill Rowling the last true left leader.

  16. Afewknowthetruth 16

    Doesn’t this all confirm that politicians are amongst the lowest forms of life on this planet, on a par with drug dealers, money-lenders and pimps?

  17. fenderviper 17

    Love is blind as they say.

    Wake up Trev, it’s not all about your future, dropkick.

  18. Ed 18

    I’d like to congratulate you Eddie on recognising the infallible, impartial and unerring political acumen of Audrey Young. Like many readers of the Standard, we hang on her every word; she is a shining light on the world of politics for us all. But I must say that your ability to select the key part of her message from other quotes that may have blurred your message is commendable, as is your ability to choose just the right graphic to accompany your article – much better than that of the Herald. Your homage to Audrey will however I am sure increase those who look for her columns.

    • mike 18.1

      Right on Ed. To me it is tragic to see this barrage of opinionated ignoramuses peddling their traitorous rubbish here – Norman Kirk would be horrified. I’m certain Kirk and many other good labour leaders would see these people for what they are – fair weather friends who don’t understand commitment or reality. They’re worse that Audrey Young could ever be, at least she doesn’t claim to be one of us.

      • emergency mike 18.1.1

        I was using that handle btw, but I guess I’ll switch to this one.

        “They’re worse that Audrey Young could ever be, at least she doesn’t claim to be one of us.”

        Eh? So if a Labour voter decides they don’t like the leader, or that the party has departed from it’s traditional values, then you reckon they should just shut up and keep voting Labour? Or else they are traitorous opinionated ignoramuses and fair weather friends who don’t understand commitment or reality?

        I think you don’t understand democracy so well. (Hint: people are welcome to change their vote if they want to.) Or blogs for that matter, (hint: it’s a place where people express opinions.)

        And who is the ‘us’ in “one of us”? Speak for yourself. Better yet, make some sort of coherent argument instead of just coming here and calling an oh so vaguely defined bunch of people names. Or just tr0ll on.

        • mike 18.1.1.1

          oh dear – must have struck a nerve

          • emergency mike 18.1.1.1.1

            So no hint of a reasoned response then. Big surprise.

            • mike 18.1.1.1.1.1

              No. Like with like

              • CV - Real Labour

                mike speaking on behalf of Big Norm and all other Labour Leaders. Thanks for your input.

              • emergency mike

                “Like with like”

                Doubt it mike. I gave reasons why I think what you wrote is nonsense. Your response was one line of empty playground argument rhetoric. You were saying something about understanding reality?

                But do carry on crying like a little girl if you wish.

  19. tc 19

    Sychopahncy, meglomania and political strategy and election campaign fails, this should go well then.

  20. Scintilla 20

    And how long do you think it will take for Key, Brownlee and co. to make mincemeat of Shearer in the house? I’m betting maybe four months tops until he’s a blithering mess. All on national TV. The MSM are licking their lips already.

  21. gobsmacked 21

    This is a common line in politics. Weak leaders are compared (or compare themselves) with previous leaders, in an atempt to give them a stature they cannnot achieve on their own.

    Nobody went around saying that Helen Clark was a Savage/Kirk/Mandela/Joan of Arc. They didn’t need to. Clark was an authoritative figure, as Clark. Nothing else needed to be said.

    Dan Quayle was like JFK, except he totally wasn’t, as Lloyd Bensen memorably said.

    Shearer is unlike anybody I can recall in democratic politics. Maybe Dubya comes closest, for linguistic limitations. But Bush had the evil genius of Karl Rove to pull his strings. Shearer has Mallard.

    It’s like Shearer’s claim to be”fired up”. If you’re fired up, you only need to show it, and let others say it. If you have to say it yourself, then … not so much. And if you have to have it written down for you on the autocue, then you really aren’t.

  22. Murray Olsen 22

    Shearer isn’t even a Bill Rowling. At best, he’s a mumbling version of Geoffrey Palmer.

    • Rhinocrates 22.1

      Actually I have a great deal of respect for Geoffrey Palmer’s intellect and integrity. I think he knew in the end that the Premiership wasn’t for him and his legal and academic career since are where he’s done his best.

  23. unpcnzcougar 23

    One of my memories as a youngster is the day Kirk died. My Mum and Dad were both in shock and in tears.
    Many years later even though my voting has changed in some elections I cried for a day when Lange died. He was a man I greatly admired and inspired me to get over my fear of public speaking. He also lived around the corner from us and was a great electorate MP.

    I can’t believe that Mallard said that. I find it incredibly disrespectful to Kirk.

  24. mallard/hater. 24

    Mallard has passed his use by date. He truley is a potty a mouth .Mr spit n dribble!!

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    GreensBy Catherine Delahunty MP
    1 week ago
  • More regional jobs go in Corrections reshape
    News that 194 Corrections staff are to lose their jobs will have ramifications not only for them and their families but for the wider community, Labour’s Corrections spokesperson Kelvin Davis says. Prison units at Waikeria, Tongariro and Rimutaka face closure… ...
    1 week ago
  • Government’s climate meetings off to a bumpy start
    On Wednesday, I attended a hui and an evening meeting that the Government had organised in Nelson as part of its climate change consultation tour, to support the Nelson community telling the Government to take meaningful action on climate change.… ...
    GreensBy Steffan Browning MP
    1 week ago
  • Taxpayers the only ones left feeling blue
    Ministry of Social Development bosses could have saved themselves thousands of dollars in consultants’ fees by providing staff with rose-tinted spectacles, Labour’s State Services spokesperson Kris Faafoi says. A report out today reveals the Ministry is spending over half a… ...
    1 week ago
  • Why are the regions still facing restrictions?
    Labour's Housing spokesperson Phil Twyford is questioning why the regions should continue to be saddled with LVR lending restrictions announced by the Reserve Bank today. “Labour has been calling for the regions to be exempted from LVRs for the best… ...
    1 week ago
  • The high costs of weak environmental regulation
    Te Waihora/Lake Ellesmere is described on the Department of Conservation website as “Canterbury’s largest and New Zealand’s fifth largest [lake], and an internationally important wildlife area.” But the lake is also polluted by nutrients leaching from farms in the catchment.… ...
    GreensBy Eugenie Sage MP
    1 week ago
  • Submissions to Wellington City Council on their Gambling Venues Policy
    Every three years Councils across the country are required to check that their gambling venue policies are still fit for purpose and they can choose to consult on their policy if they are thinking of making changes. Councils don’t have… ...
    GreensBy Denise Roche MP
    1 week ago
  • Reserve Bank action shows Govt out of touch and out of ideas
    The Reserve Bank’s unprecedented measures today show it understands the serious risks of the overheating housing market – in complete contrast to John Key’s refusal to acknowledge the crisis, Labour’s Finance spokesperson Grant Robertson says. “The Bank is right to… ...
    1 week ago
  • Send us your snaps: 25 Years of the Green Party
    This year we've hit a milestone. We're turning 25.To help celebrate a quarter of a century, please send us your photos from the last 25 years of the Green Party Aotearoa New Zealand! Note: Photos must be jpg, gif or… ...
    2 weeks ago
  • 25 Years of the Green Party
    This year the Green Party sends 25. To help us celebrate a quarter of a century please send us you photos of 25 years of the Green Party!Photos must be jpg,gif or png and smaller than 2MB. If you are… ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Bay growth plan too little too late
    Today’s Bay of Plenty growth study from MBIE is another example of Government spin - lots of talk but little action, says Labour’s Regional Development spokesperson David Cunliffe.  “This is a region that desperately needs to develop the downstream processing… ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Government bows to ACC pressure
     The Government has finally buckled to pressure from Labour and the New Zealand public in making a half billion dollar cut to ACC levies, but the full benefits are two years away,” says Opposition Leader Andrew Little.  “$500 million over… ...
    2 weeks ago
  • False figures cloud Auckland transport facts
    The Prime Minister should apologise and issue a correction after both he and Transport Minister Simon Bridges have been caught out misrepresenting facts on Auckland’s transport spending, Labour’s Housing spokesperson Phil Twyford says. "Both John Key and Simon Bridges have… ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Govt books confirm National can’t post surplus
    The last publication of the Government’s books before the budget shows National will break its promise of seven years and two election campaigns and fail to get the books in order, says Labour’s Finance Spokesperson Grant Robertson. “The Government is… ...
    2 weeks ago
  • US state joins NZ with GE food labelling
    New Zealand has a similar law making the labelling of many GE foods compulsory, but the Government seems to let it slide.  Because the government has not monitored or enforced our GE food labelling laws since 2003, it seems the… ...
    GreensBy Steffan Browning MP
    2 weeks ago
  • Labour Pays Tribute to Erima Henare
    “E ua e te ua tata rahi ana, Ko te hua i te kamo taheke i runga raa. No reira e te rangatira Erima takoto mai I roto I te ringa o Ihowa o nga Mano e moe e.” ...
    2 weeks ago

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