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National’s litany of economic failure

Written By: - Date published: 1:30 pm, November 10th, 2013 - 132 comments
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I finally got up the courage to trawl through Tracy Watkins’ hagiography to John Key and found something interesting at the end. The Dom has made a table of main economic and fiscal measures comparing where they are now to where they were in 2008 and, crucially, where they were projected to be now in the forecasts Treasury made immediately after National came to power. It’s a list of National failure.

BY THE NUMBERS

Debt:

2008 $10.3b

The 2008 forecast for 2013: $29b

Actual 2013: $55b

The Budget:

2008: $5.6b surplus.

Forecast 2013: deficit $3.3b

Actual 2013: deficit $4.4b

Current account deficit:

2008: -7.8 per cent

Forecast 2013: -5 per cent

Actual 2013: -4.7 per cent (there has been a major methodology change to the CAD that has brought it lower)

Economic growth:

2008: -0.6 per cent

Forecast 2013: 3.1 per cent

Actual: 2013: 2.5

Unemployment:

2008: 4.3 per cent

Forecast 2013: 4.6 per cent

Actual 2013: 6.2 per cent

Economic rebalancing:

The gap between income from the tradeable sector and the non-tradables sector has widened since 2008.

 

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I’ve had a look at the December Economic and Fiscal Update 2008 that the Dom has used myself. Remember, it was written at the deepest point of  the Global Financial Crisis.

It projected growth over the past five years would have been 13%. Under National, it was just 5%.

132 comments on “National’s litany of economic failure”

  1. tamati 1

    December 2008 wasn’t the deepest point in the GFC for New Zealand. The severity of the crises wasn’t truly felt and recognised until early 2010.

    • Draco T Bastard 1.1

      [citation needed]

      • tamati 1.1.1

        Seriously?

        Do I need to reference if I think the sun will rise tomorrow too? It’s common knowledge that the depth and breadth of the GFC wasn’t fully understood until late 2009/ early 2010. For the record

        -GDP contraction peaked in Q2, 2009 at -3.4%
        -We remained in recession until Q2, 2010

        • Draco T Bastard 1.1.1.1

          When you go round making assertions like that, yes. The GFC was in 2007/8 and the world was, supposedly, coming out of it by late 2009 and we should have been as well especially considering how well the 5th Labour government left the books in.

          In fact, we’ve had RWNJs on here telling us the we entered recession before the rest of the world.

    • infused 1.2

      Pretty much.

      • aerobubble 1.2.1

        I disagree, obvious tarp mattered, and had the immediate effect on boards who are paid large salaries to look forward at the consequences. So sure in the media and public there is a lag, from lazy financial journalists, but your keen eyed forecaster would be factoring tarp into their outlooks immediately or be flushed out with the large exodus of financial workers globally.

        Its also one of the reasons I don’t trust Key, he could never get ahead of the GFC, and is unwilling to get ahead of the China slow down. We need our leaders to be held to account, yet the financial and other press just buys shit and so serves it up.

  2. QoT 2

    With statistics like these I feel that a party (no, not Labour) could do very well campaigning on a platform of defunding Treasury. Or at least forcing them to register as a third party promoter for the purposes of election advertising.

    • Draco T Bastard 2.1

      Treasury has become the most powerful of the government departments and it really does need to be declawed.

    • Dumrse 2.2

      You need to careful what you wish for, the Govt is more likely to change the rules re party funding. And, make union subscription collection a job of the union, not the employer.

  3. Tat Loo (CV) 3

    It’s not entirely clear whether this is a criticism of National, or of Treasury. Or of the rest of us who take Treasury forecasts seriously, when a dart board is just as good.

    edit QoT beat me to it.

  4. Ad 4

    If unemployment dips below 6% Labour will not be able to run a credible attack about “economic mismanagement”. Labour will need a whole new attack approach.

    Labour tried appeals to economic nationalism re the asset sales and it was nowhere near enough in 2008.

    No one particularly the media should feel obliged to give John Key his due. But he wins. So they back him with money and votes.

    What Labour strategy will beat John Key? A presumption of a coalition simply isn’t enough.

    • Chocolate 4.1

      That is a good question.
      National is already looking at handing out some election bribes to those not naturally of their voting constituency.
      Labour needs be ready and to think strategically, while being prepared to move tactically.

    • Naturesong 4.2

      Given that Labour was MIA last election, and the last term and a half the Greens have been the only party performing their parliamentary role as “loyal opposition”, the next election looks like it will be properly contested.

      Over the past 18 months I’ve seen more and more people that I know to be apathetic to politics express a strong desire to get rid of “that slimy bastard” (my Mum, who never normally swears, calls him that!!).

      The election will be won on the ground, engaging with all the folks who have suffered under the current government’s legislation.
      Other things that opposition parties can run on are:
      – The not corrupt party – Chorus, Ruataniwha dam, Tiwai Point, Sky City
      – Education – National has done serious damage to our education system
      – New Zealand as an independant country, with it’s own foriegn policy
      – Housing – Restrict non-residents from buying existing stock, CGT, and building low cost housing
      – We’re not big brother, and we’ll stop spying on New Zealanders
      – Fixing the Police force – A strong Minister to force the police to enact the recommendations in the Bazley report. And refocus the Police on supporting communities. Changing the culture there might involve firing a fair amount of long serving members. Funding them properly. Reporting crime properly.
      – Regional Development – What if, instead of giving 30M of tacpayers money to Rio Tinto, they had invested that in Invercargill itself, promoting small business startups etc
      – Being able to swim in New Zealand rivers without getting sick, like when I was growing up
      – Being able collect shellfish from the coastline without having to check for algal bloom every time
      – Fixing the Health system – Not made news yet, but there’s trouble brewing there. There’s a siege mentality in DHB’s, staff are stretched past breaking.
      – Commitment to evidence based policy – that’d be a massive change
      – Revisiting the tax system, reducing GST, higher tax for top earners
      – Transport – Fix up existing roads that are in disrepair instead of pouring money into holiday highways. Commitment to Public Trasnport.
      – Reversing the massive power grab by Central Government and returning appropriate decision making back to elected councils.

      There’s more than enough to go on.

      However, since Cunliffe has become leader, there has been a constant refrain from the press that he’s arrogant, making stuff up as he goes along, doesn’t have the support of his collougues or is unable to lead them etc. Expect to see the press to get even more shrill over the next year.

      • MrSmith 4.2.1

        All this “it will be won on the ground” repetition is old hat, yes there is a place for it but really Labour need to campaign through the screen you are looking at right now and I think Cunliffe is young enough and smart enough to realize that.

        And Treasury need a complete overhaul or maybe it might be better to crush them and start from scratch.

        • Francis 4.2.1.1

          The two certainly aren’t mutually exclusive. I doubt that David Cunliffe will simply decide not to attend the media debates, not to comment on issues when asked by the media, or not to utilise election advertising. But the fact is that the media is no friend of the Left. This is shown by the fact that John Key is still under the so-called “honeymoon” period, while David Cunliffe has been under attack by the media since the first time he contested the Labour Party leadership.

          That’s where I would argue strongly for delivering the Labour Party message in person, where it cannot be warped and pulled apart by the media (while National gains no such criticism, or to a much lesser extent). That’s why there is a real strong focus on energising the Labour Party membership, who will be the ones delivering this message in-person.

          I agree also that there needs to be much more involvement by the Labour Party via online means, since it is a really good way of portraying direct messages, without being manipulated by the MSM, and without needing the time and resources to undertake them in person. However, many New Zealanders either do not have internet access, or do not use it very often at all. Those people will need to have the in-person communication, unfortunately.

        • Draco T Bastard 4.2.1.2

          really Labour need to campaign through the screen you are looking at right now

          Presently sitting in my in box:
          Annette King
          Shane Jones
          Jacinda Adern
          Moana Mackey
          Grant Robertson
          Phil Twyford

      • Rogue Trooper 4.2.2

        a comprehensive tune-up Naturesong

    • Tat Loo (CV) 4.3

      What Labour strategy will beat John Key?

      A government in waiting with a vision of the future, one with a willingness to deal with economic and environmental megatrends that National doesn’t have.

      If unemployment dips below 6% Labour will not be able to run a credible attack about “economic mismanagement”. Labour will need a whole new attack approach.

      You are right Labour needs to be prepared for this. The short answer is: it’s not just the quantity of jobs which National has failed at. It’s the poor quality of those jobs – including the low rates of pay given to workers.

      • Foreign Waka 4.3.1

        Labour need to do its own findings, i.e. how many of those additional jobs are positioned in Christchurch with the rebuild? This has nothing to do with economic growth and even the international commentators know that. In fact without Christchurch NZ is pretty much stagnant as it has no new revenue streams other than selling the family silver.
        How many of these “new” jobs are temporary, contract based and/or part time (zero hour?)
        How much of the wealth generated in NZ stays with the wage earners in NZ? How does this bode with other countries – and please don’t add third world economies with human rights records. We are not stupid.
        What are the plans for future alignment of education and economic growth? Is there a measure what work needs to be done, what services offered, how many people will enter the country, the education system, the workforce and what the connected need for a functioning infrastructure is? How does this bode with environmental issues and sustainability?
        I hear a lot of rhetoric and political attacks but what about the “get on with it” attitude? So many highly paid “professionals” so little to show for it.

        • Tat Loo (CV) 4.3.1.1

          So many highly paid “professionals” so little to show for it.

          Yep. Look at what the First Labour Government achieved by, as you say, simply getting on with it.

      • David H 4.3.2

        “What Labour strategy will beat John Key?”

        Solid Policy properly costed.
        Good social Policy.
        A ready to win party, that shows it’s a credible alternative to the Status Quo.
        A party that communicates with it’s voters and the non voters.
        An engaging leader.
        The ability to win over the swing voter.

        And then if you win. Don’t backtrack on promises you made, don’t screw over the little man who is looking at you to try to repair some of that, which was taken away, under this Government

      • JonL 4.3.3

        “If unemployment dips below 6% Labour will not be able to run a credible attack about “economic mismanagement”. Labour will need a whole new attack approach. ”

        So look out for some “inventive” approaches to unemployment measuring from the Nats…..as has happened in the USA…….

  5. Tigger 5

    To me, the information is less interesting than how it was presented. Dumped at the bottom of a long piece that looks like it was pulled from various different articles – it can only be described as a ‘grab-bag’ (I’m surprised no one thought to add a recipe for their aunt’s chicken quiche). It is easy to miss this. I certainly did the first time I read this.

    And it is buried below that cloying piece that trumpets Key is ‘living the dream’.

    Why present ‘analysis’ like this? To further your own delusion that you are doing a great job of being thorough and unbiased in political reporting.

    • Ad 5.1

      What Key is doing well that Cunliffe is completely missing is soft media profile. It’s what leadership feels like to most citizens. Cunliffe may possibly win just by pursuing the 800,000 that did not vote last time. Big maybe.

      But IMHO that is exceedingly risky if he does not get his picture on Women’s Weekly, Fish and Game magazine, New Idea, 1ZB, Sky sports commentaries etc.

      Political Man cannot live by policy alone. Key’s team get this. Cunliffe feels like the suit and tie guy trying to win off political set pieces that preach largely to the converted.

      So Key has seduced Tracey Watkins and a bunch of the others. Figure it out Labour team and start seducing. You won’t win hearts and minds feeding us dry policy weetbix every morning.

      • Tat Loo (CV) 5.1.1

        +1

        Political Man cannot live by policy alone.

        Yep a classic Labour trap thinking that policy is the most important tool in winning elections. National with their corporate PR/marketing resources know better. It’s not the sausage which makes the sale, it is the sizzle.

        Makes me worry about this report saying that Cunliffe turned down a regular spot on the Farming Show and instead, Russel Norman will be on.

        http://homepaddock.wordpress.com/2013/11/06/cunliffe-chickens-out-norman-steps-in/

      • Zorr 5.1.2

        I actually find this to be completely incorrect for our current situation.

        It is nice if your morning cereal comes all frosted and sweet but all too often you have a bowl or two and then you’re over it. Without any substance it doesn’t last

        As much as Cunliffe might be more policy focused than John Key, he is no Phil Goff and it definitely sounds like he’s trying to be the political leader that we need.

        The big *if* is only *if* the economy improves… on what fucking planet? Planet Key? Because that’s the only place their current economic strategies would actually work. If the status quo remains for the next year, I’m expecting a very merry red 2014 Xmas

        • Ad 5.1.2.1

          The “fucking planet” that the economy described is on is called the media. Pop up to the actual post and read the actual point of it: the media are letting John Key off the economic reality. This is supposed to be news after 5 years?

          Expect all you like. We will get reams of this wall to wall happy John Key coverage unless Labour do something even more persuasive than he is being. At the moment they are not.

          • Zorr 5.1.2.1.1

            The thing that I actually see happening is that what the media produces is becoming less and less representative of the reality that people spend their daily lives in and, therefore, they are becoming turned off to it. Puff pieces like this one are self-reinforcing for all readers currently because those who like John Key get to feel good about him for a bit and those who dislike him get a further example of how disconnected he is from reality.

            No matter what economic planet the media lives on, if unemployment remains where it is (or worsens) in our economic reality, I would put money on the Nats not surviving. It is a long road to the election but the discontent is very high and becoming very vocal.

            I read the piece yesterday and posted it to Open Mike Ad. It can be safely assumed I read large swathes of it in between vomiting sessions.

            • Ad 5.1.2.1.1.1

              Try the 3 News poll tonight.

              MSM reality is still the predominant reality.
              Cunliffe owned the conference, and his Preferred Prime Minister stakes versus Key have not moved one iota. Key has slipped a little, but Cunliffe is not yet within even 30 points.

              Re the unemployment numbers: Labour better have another strategy other than attacking that, because if that slips, on the current strategy Labour are toast.

              • Zorr

                “Preferred PM” is possibly the worst polling metric ever invented

                ’nuff said

                And Labour aren’t just attacking on employment. They are attacking on asset sales, “trickle down” economics, anti-democratic actions by Nact, housing shortages… etc

                Those are just from the top of my head and I’m pretty sure there are many more that others can add

              • David H

                Yeah we had the love fest between Key and English on Sunday morning. Really had to look for a bucket on that one.

                Key on TV one this morning
                Norman on TV one this Morning’
                Labour still asleep?

      • Saarbo 5.1.3

        I think you are probably right Ad…unfortunately.

  6. Chooky 6

    Ad +1…good comments

  7. infused 7

    List of failures? Maybe if Labour was in power.

    Watch next year (economy, not the election), it’s going to be a cracker.

  8. red blooded 8

    Cunliffe definitely needs to try to up his media profile. Plenty of radio time (including guest spots not related to politics, like picking songs for the Saturday morning nat rad show, or live talkback), “Family man” stuff, spots on 7 Days, Backbenchers…etc). He can’t afford to leave it too close to the election or it will look desperate. Plus, I haven’t seen much of him on shows like “The Nation” or “Q&A”. He needs to follow on from the “new boy in town” early stuff and get his identity cemented in people’s minds as a man at ease with the leadership role.

    He’s bloody good on policy and in formal interview situations; it would just be good to have a more rounded view of him established so that he’s ready to go next year and people have a warm view of him.

    • David H 8.1

      That means he needs a media secretary that gets all forms of the media. Labour have to get up on technology.

  9. Philgwellington Wellington 9

    Xox
    Is this what we have come to? Weetbix and soft sell, in the vacuous media. What I take from this is the media is king, regardless of who is in Government. Sure big business supports the Nats, but Labour has to smooch the crap media, just the same. Ironic, but it is in a Labour’s self interest to establish a, truly independent quality public broadcaster. It had the opportunity and failed. Get it together, learn to speak out of both sides of your mouth, win the election and do the right thing all New Zealanders, especially those at the bottom.
    Labour, are you up to it?

  10. Chooky 10

    What is needed is …a table thumping , soap box stumping Socialist John A Lee who speaks to the people via every form of media….Cunliffe can do it!

    (….it is just that the media has been preoccupied and swamped with the Auckland sex scene for the last few weeks…..)

    Also maybe this is the calm before the storm….Cunliffe is resting up and getting ready for the big 2014 war…… conserving his energy……working on his strategies…before he talks to vested interest groups like farmer lobbys ( I always thought it was smart he didnt go to Hooton Possums Xmas dos…unlike Shearer who was in boots and all …and he didnt go to to the Auckland casino hospitality dos…unlike some of his more thoughtless colleagues)

    …..maybe Cunliffe is keeping his gun powder dry for Election Year

    …..getting all his cannon balls together

    ….getting the cannons all oiled and greased

    ……lining them up on deck ready to go

    … …placement and strategy and timing is everything in winning war…lets hope he has good intelligence sources and networks and advisers

  11. Steve Withers 11

    National are firm in their belief that government can’t run the economy properly. They are failing to understand that THEY can’t do it properly. Labour was doing a pretty good job under Helen Clark.

  12. Draco T Bastard 12

    Chorus, the Commerce Commission, and the Common Good

    It would appear that the criteria for government intervention is very simple; privatise the profits and socialize the losses. Profits before people in other words. The government is only prepared to intervene if company profits are threatened. Massive job losses, starvation wages, and consumers paying over the odds don’t warrant any action other than a bit of hand wringing and a plaintive, “we wish there was something we could do but there isn’t”.

    That says it perfectly. Government fucks up by accepting Chorus’ tender and then looks set to bail-out Chorus at our expense. If anything proves Nationals’ inability to manage the economy that would be it.

    • photonz 12.1

      It’s the Commerce Commission that’s stuffed up. They’ve given Chorus a price that has ZERO to do with what it costs actually costs Chorus to run their network.

      All they did was take a price from a different network in a different country with different rules and a different market. The assessment is so silly that fluctuations in exchange rates from a country on the other side of the planet, which are totally irrelevant, have been one of the main factors in the Commerce Commission working out what Chorus should charge.

      In fact the Commerce Commission have breached the Telecomunications Act 2001, as they have failed to take account the fact that Chorus is building a new network – they are legally required to do this under the act, but haven’t.

      The act requires that the Commerce Commission take into account expensive capital expenditure on new technologies that will benefit the country as a whole. In addition the fibre network is an upgrade from copper – not some completely different market. When fibre gets 1000 new customers, copper gets 1000 fewer customers.

      So as people transfer to fibre, the cost per customer to run the old copper network goes UP – not down.

      • Tat Loo (CV) 12.1.1

        Few are going to leave the old copper network.

        Because Chorus can’t get its fibre one cheap enough to be competitive. That’s why they’re asking the Government for handouts. According to free market philosophy, if Chorus isn’t competitive, it shouldn’t be bailed out and should sink or swim on its own merits.

        It’s the Commerce Commission that’s stuffed up. They’ve given Chorus a price that has ZERO to do with what it costs actually costs Chorus to run their network.

        Chorus crying has nothing to do with cost of running the network. It has everything to do with their annoyance at facing reduced profits for their shareholders.

        If they don’t want to do the work, they can feel free to walk from the contract and the Govt can complete it as a public works, at cost, no mark up, way cheaper for all NZers.

        • photonz 12.1.1.1

          Hundreds of thousands of taxpayers paying billions for something they will never use would be “way cheaper for all NZers.”?

          If you have a think about what you say, rather that simply spouting a cultish anti-buisiness line, you won’t come up with such silly statements.

          If the taxpayer foots the bill, it will be way dearer for those people who don’t get fibre, as they’ve subsidise those who do.

          • One Anonymous Knucklehead 12.1.1.1.1

            You should tell Farrar and Hooten how you’ve uncovered the truth about the Commerce Commission. I’m sure they’ll withdraw their public criticism of Chorus on your say so, and when I say sure, I mean convinced, 100% certain, yes indeedy.

            Oh, no, wait, this just in, it turns out you have less than zero credibility. Never mind.

            • photonz 12.1.1.1.1.1

              What line do you expect Hooten to have ?????….he is being paid to be a mouthpiece for the consumer groups.

              The Commerce Commission will now legally be forced, for the very first time, to look at what it actually costs Chorus to provide broadband.

              Rather than the rediculous situation of some random price from some country that where the main factor in their costings is an irrelevant exchange rate of a random foreign currency,….. but NOT even the slightest input of what it actually costs to run a network in NZ.

              • KJT

                Photo. Chorus contracted to roll out fibre for a price. Now it is going to make less profit than they expected they want us, copper users, to subsidise it.

                How many of your customers allow you to increase your prices after the contract is signed and in progress.

                It has happened to me, and probably most contractors. Something changes after you start and you cannot make as much as you expected, or even a loss. Normally you just have to wear it.

                • One Anonymous Knucklehead

                  Forced? By you?

                  *ridiculous!*

                  The only judicial review in the pipeline is the one initiated by Callplus against Amy Adams. Keep dreaming.

                  • photonz

                    Duh!!!!

                    “Chorus will force the Commerce Commission to go back to the drawing board to work out broadband charges..” from

                    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11151998

                    • One Anonymous Knucklehead

                      ” …it was Chorus’ right under the law to ask for this review. This can take years to complete …If the FPP process was not complete by December next year, yesterday’s price cuts would still come into effect…”

                      Who does the review? The Commerce Commission.

                      I can see that working out exactly as you predict, no, sorry, just can’t maintain a straight face any longer :lol:

                      Chorus knew the rules when they (under)bid for the contract. The underbid was noted at the time. Now they’re cap-in-hand to the National Party (you’d hesitate to call it a government) looking for some Socialist bailout.

                      Your attempted defence of this is risible because if it weren’t for the fact that Dear Leader is up to his shonky neck in the deal you’d be howling along with Hooten and Farrar.

                      My guess is you’ve got skin in the game.

                • photonz

                  The price the Commerce Commission has come up with has nothing to do with what it costs Chorus to supply the service – nothing at all.

                  In fact they haven’t even acted lawfully coming up with it. The are required by law (Telecommunications Act 2001) to take account of expensive capital upgrades when setting prices.

                  They totally to do this – totally failed – and instead picked a price from the other side of the planet and said Chorus should charge that.

                  Already that price is wrong because currency rates have changed since last week.

                  That the price is reflective of an irrelevant exchange rate with random foreign currency, but not with what it costs Chorus to provide the service, shows just how ridiculous their figure is.

                  The would have had a better chance of coming up with the correct figure if they’d picked random figures out of a hat.

                  • photonz

                    Knucklehead says “My guess is you’ve got skin in the game.”

                    Just like 2 million kiwis with Kiwisaver accounts.

                    The irony is that we’ve got politicians on the left saying we need to invest more in NZ rather than overseas.

                    Then they show their plans to screw investors in NZ infrastructure, which leads to more and more financial advice NOT to invest in NZ, particularly if there is a likelihood of a Labour/Greens govt.

                    • Tat Loo (CV)

                      Then they show their plans to screw investors in NZ infrastructure, which leads to more and more financial advice NOT to invest in NZ, particularly if there is a likelihood of a Labour/Greens govt.

                      Those “investors” are only interested in extracting profits out from our communities and exporting that money to their overseas shareholders.

                      We can provide our own capital for necessary projects, without that wealth extraction.

                      Just like 2 million kiwis with Kiwisaver accounts.

                      Meh. Kiwisaver providers are supposed to act as fiduciaries.

                      If they put their clients money in risky investments, that is a real problem.

                      Perhaps the way to go is a government Kiwisaver scheme like they have in advanced countries, which helps cut down on the profits extracted by the financial sector.

                    • One Anonymous Knucklehead

                      You’re transparent.

                      Chorus underbid for the job and now they want shareholders to have a government bailout rather than take a bath. If they can’t fulfil their contractual obligations there is a queue of companies who can.

                      The fact that the government let this crew on board makes Dear Leader look bad even though he was kissing babies at the time. Let Double Dipton run the show, what could possibly go wrong?

                      Got another small-business homily, empty vessel?

                    • photonz

                      Knucklehead says “If they can’t fulfil their contractual obligations there is a queue of companies who can.”

                      Chorus – our largest network company by far, may not be large enough to borrow the money without breaking it’s debt limits.

                      So that either means a foreign company building and owning the network.

                      Or lots of smaller NZ companies, which as with the other 30% of the networks, is costing you, the taxpayer, considerably MORE per house to build the network.

                      So you either want a foreign company to build and own it, or a smaller Kiwi company that will cost the taxpayer much more.

                      That’s really dumb .

                    • McFlock

                      Or lots of smaller NZ companies, which as with the other 30% of the networks, is costing you, the taxpayer, considerably MORE per house to build the network.

                      You assume that the chorus sticker price is the full cost of their part of the rollout.

                      The other 30% of companies that tendered based their price around the actual cost of building the network.

                      Chorus underbid, hoping that the difference would be made up by their high copper fees for a captive market.

                      Now they either need to borrow money, get a govt bailout, or continue to charge exorbitant prices for copper.

                      Regardless of whether NZers subsidise the broadband construction via high copper use fees or just a bailout from the nats, we still pay much more than the Chorus sticker price. It’s the equivalent of cheap credit with lots of hidden fees.

                      But you refuse to admit the obvious game of silly bugger chorus are playing.
                      That’s really, really dumb.

                    • One Anonymous Knucklehead

                      Not so dumb you didn’t fall straight into the pit I dug for you: I’m glad you have finally admitted that you think Chorus are too big to fail, and note that you are arguing against foreign investment, in direct contradiction to Dear Leader.

                      Tying yourself up in knots trying to defend the National Party’s ever shifting “position”, chump.

                    • Tat Loo (CV)

                      Chorus – our largest network company by far, may not be large enough to borrow the money without breaking it’s debt limits.

                      Chorus “OUR” company? WTF? It mostly belongs to Australian investors mate.

                      BTW if it had retained some monies to reinvest in its own business instead of dishing every last dollar out in shareholder dividends, it wouldn’t need to be going cap in hand to the banksters.

                    • Rogue Trooper

                      Solution anyone? ;)

                    • One Anonymous Knucklehead

                      “Chorus “OUR” company?”

                      Perhaps Photonz is being aspirational.

                      I don’t think it’s such a bad idea myself.

                      1. Reject Chorus’ whining.
                      2. Watch as their share price plummets.
                      3. Acquire a controlling stake at a firesale price.
                      4. Rename it to Kiwifibre.

                      Isn’t that what Gordon would do?

                    • photonz

                      Tat Loo says “Chorus “OUR” company? WTF? It mostly belongs to Australian investors mate.”

                      “Latest statistics showed that 55% of shareholders were New Zealanders” from

                      http://www.odt.co.nz/news/business/263786/ownership-take-please-chorus-chief

                      Tat Loo says “BTW if it had retained some monies to reinvest in its own business instead of dishing every last dollar out in shareholder dividends”

                      Wrong again. Chorus puts the majority of it’s earnings into the fibre project – only a third is paid out in dividends.

                      Tat – you’re going to keep looking ignorant if you keep spouting off in a unquestioning cultish fashion.

                      Best look at the information BEFORE you decide on the answer.

                    • One Anonymous Knucklehead

                      The right answer is “too big to fail”, eh?

          • Draco T Bastard 12.1.1.1.2

            Hundreds of thousands of taxpayers paying billions for something they will never use would be “way cheaper for all NZers.”?

            Please point out the “hundreds of thousands” of taxpayers presently not using the telecommunications network.

            BTW, Yes, it would be cheaper. Remember taxpayers are already paying half of of the billions required. Chorus wants us to pay more so that they get higher profits.

            If the taxpayer foots the bill, it will be way dearer for those people who don’t get fibre, as they’ve subsidise those who do.

            Actually, that would be a load of bollocks. If the taxpayer was going to foot the entire bill then the first thing that would have to happen is that the entire telecommunications network got renationalised. The rate that people would get copper would be at the Commissions rate. The rate for fibre would then be slightly higher but still significantly less than whet Telecom wants to charge – no dead weight loss of profit you see.

            • photonz 12.1.1.1.2.1

              1/ The fibre network will never reach a quarter of 2 million current copper connections. Why should they pay for fibre if they’ll never get to use it?

              2/ Wrong – While taxpayer are subsidising some smaller companies, the difference with the 70% Chorus is building is the taxpayer input is a LOAN – not a grant – it has to ALL be paid back.

              3/ It’s totally false that Chorus have asked to be paid more – they haven’t. All they want is to be able to charge enough for access to their network that allows than to upgrade old copper technology to fibre before it becomes obsolete.

              Just like power companies do. Just like mobile companies to. Just like every company does.

              If no company is ever allowed use profits from older technology to upgrade, there would never be any upgrades of anything, anywhere. You’d lock NZ into the dark ages.

              • Draco T Bastard

                The fibre network will never reach a quarter of 2 million current copper connections.

                Then we have a problem as fibre should be rolled out to every house/residence in the country.

                It’s totally false that Chorus have asked to be paid more – they haven’t.

                There’s a reason why Chorus is regulated – it’s because of its monopoly position. Allowed to go their own way, as Telecom was for so long, and they will overcharge us again.

                If no company is ever allowed use profits from older technology to upgrade, there would never be any upgrades of anything, anywhere.

                I’m quite aware of that. It’s also why Chorus should not be allowed to charge any more than the regulated amount. They had the income and paid it out in dividends rather than upgrading the network. Basically, we’ve already paid for the upgrade but we just didn’t get it. This is what happens under private monopolies – theft.

                It also comes back to your 1/ If Chorus gets to charge more so as to subsidise the installation of fibre then fibre would need to be rolled out to every home and not just the 500, 000 that you mentioned. Of course, this government did promise it across 75% of houses which is a hell of a lot more than that.

                Basically, Telecom should never have been sold or deregulated because, amazingly enough, that’s how they were working prior to the sale. It’s how we now have digital exchanges and fibre across the country. Since the sale, re-investment in the network declined from 100% of surplus to ~15% which wasn’t enough to keep up with what needed to happen (it’s barely above maintenance). The other 85% went out on dividends proving the dead-weight loss of profit.

                • photonz

                  Draco says “Then we have a problem as fibre should be rolled out to every house/residence in the country.”

                  Why? Current cost is $3000 per house – AVERAGE.

                  Remote areas can cost $20,000 and even several times that, PER house.

                  You really think that’s a good idea?

                  Draco says “They had the income and paid it out in dividends rather than upgrading the network.”:

                  Total nonsense.

                  Chorus put twice as much into the new network than they pay out.

                  Why does everyone here keep making up bullshit when they obviously are totally ignorant of what they’re talking about?

                  Draco says “basically, Telecom should never have been sold or deregulated because…”

                  You’re a few decades too late to be winging about that. If you’re so anti profits, you should emigrate to that leftist paradise – North Korea.

                  Draco says “It’s also why Chorus should not be allowed to charge any more than the regulated amount. ”

                  The “regulated amount” is a figure pulled out of the sky that bears no relation to what it costs Chorus to run their network – none at all.

                  • Rogue Trooper

                    everyone you say.

                  • One Anonymous Knucklehead

                    Never “too late” too revisit previous mistakes. Never too late to start rounding up lowlife scum people who suggest exile for their political opponents and packing them off to North Korea either.

                  • McFlock

                    Draco says “They had the income and paid it out in dividends rather than upgrading the network.”:

                    Total nonsense.

                    Chorus put twice as much into the new network than they pay out.

                    Lol
                    So of the funds available for new network development, a full third is diverted into shareholder dividends?

                    Seems to support DTB’s assertion…

                  • Draco T Bastard

                    Total nonsense.

                    Chorus put twice as much into the new network than they pay out.

                    Chorus didn’t magically spring into existence. There was a before and that was Telecom with better than a href=”http://www.greens.org.nz/misc-documents/table-sales-proceeds-and-foregone-dividends-resulting-sale-bnz-telecom-and-contact”>$17b in dividends paid out.

                    You’re a few decades too late to be winging about that.

                    It was a fuckup that’s cost us billions of dollars and I’m going to keep pointing that out until we get a government that accepts reality and renationalises.

                    The “regulated amount” is a figure pulled out of the sky that bears no relation to what it costs Chorus to run their network – none at all.

                    You don’t actually know that though, do you?

                    • photonz

                      Draco says ‘You don’t actually know that though, do you?”

                      Of course I do – anybody who has any interest in the case knows that.

                      The Commerce Commission used the price of a copper network on the far side of the globe, in a different country, in a different market, with different regulations, and a different economy.

                      Then they took the current exchange rate for a currency that has plummeted, changed it to NZ$, can came up with a price.

                      None of which has anything to do with
                      1/ what the Chorus network is worth
                      2/ what it costs to run
                      3/ what it is costing to replace.

                      Under the Telecommunications Act 2001, comcom are LEGALLY REQUIRED to take account of expensive capital upgrades to new technology when setting prices.

                      They failed to do that as well.

                    • Tat Loo (CV)

                      You’re sure that this has nothing to do with Chorus’s incompetent bid which was far too low, and now needs bailing out to the tune of several hundred million dollars?

  13. SPC 13

    The GFC hit in late 2008, the extent of the economic impact only became known in 2009 and 2010. There was also the earthquake. This makes placing the blame on National for failure to reach forecasts a tough sell.

    National will get more traction claiming to have managed us through a difficult period.

    Labour should focus on those left behind by National, – in the centre there will be plenty of swing votes available: first home buyers locked out of the market (because the government did not support new building in the 2008-2013 period and their continued opposition to state led solutions), those unable to continue with study for their masters degree, and those who will be unable to buy UFB (or retain Sky packages) as their mortgage rates rise with the “economic recovery”.

  14. photonz 14

    Has there ever been a sillier comparison?

    Economic conditions after half a decade of the country spending 15% MORE then we earned EVERY year, compared to the end of five years of global financial crisis.

    If you want a comparison that is not totally meaningless, compare us to every other first world country.

    When it comes to debt, growth, unemployment etc, NZ is better than the vast majority of other countries.

  15. Tracey 15

    But only above greece on percentage of wages required for accomodation and not much better on disposable income.

    so success for whom is the labour greens mantra..

    photo on the thread where you were bemoaning the time you pay your employees to “do nothing” . I asked what you earn from all sources taking into account income maximisation methods. Would appreciate an honest answer.

    • photonz 15.1

      Here’s the 50 most expensive places to live – I can’t seem to find any NZ cities in there, but plenty in Australia..
      http://www.smh.com.au/business/the-worlds-50-most-expensive-cities-20120612-207lr.html.

      As for income, I’m the lowest paid in my company, like a lot of small business owners. We don’t get paid for holidays, sick days, stats, or tea breaks.

      • One Anonymous Knucklehead 15.1.1

        Yet another wingnut with a fucked business model seeking to smear their incompetence all over everyone else.

        • photonz 15.1.1.1

          Yet another extremist who thinks abuse is intelligent debate.

          • One Anonymous Knucklehead 15.1.1.1.1

            I’ll rephrase. Charging your time at such a low rate that you cannot afford to pay yourself a salary (including holidays etc.) is a bad business model, and yet you have the temerity to lecture others about what you imagine is their lack of understanding of the issues involved.

            Stick around. You might learn something.

            • photonz 15.1.1.1.1.1

              My business is very cyclic so I have good years and years where I don’t earn much. When that happens I my work still takes me on overseas travel, and I have income from investments, so it doesn’t bother me a great deal.

              • One Anonymous Knucklehead

                One moment they’re a typical struggling small business owner who takes no holidays, the next they have investment income and overseas travel so it doesn’t bother them a great deal.

                The insincerity is strong in this one.

                • photonz

                  You obviously missed the original point, which was employing anyone, means paying
                  – 4 weeks holiday
                  – 1.5 weeks sick pay (average taken in NZ each year)
                  – 2.2 weeks statutory holidays.
                  – 4 weeks of time in tea breaks.
                  (nearly 12 weeks total per year for zero work done)

                  And paying them even if it means dipping into your own savings, or not taking a wage yourself when cashflow is down..

                  The left want to continually make it harder and harder for small businesses to take on new employees.

                  And if they make it harder, any it’s patently obvious that FEWER new staff will be taken on.

                  Merely the other side of the coin – you can make it harder to take on new staff, or easier.

                  But if you make it harder you can’t complain about the unemployment rate.

                  • One Anonymous Knucklehead

                    Oh get a clue. Per capita GDP is always higher when the Left run the country. If they make it so hard to hire, how come the lowest unemployment in NZ history was in 2007?

                    Stop mindlessly parroting rote-learned drivel and think for yourself.

                    Whining about employment law when NZ is routinely acknowledged as one of the most business friendly countries in the world gives rise to the suspicion that your problems arise from your level of competence rather than the environment.

                    We need better wingnuts.

                    • photonz

                      Knucklehead asks “how come the lowest unemployment in NZ history was in 2007?”

                      Because the country as a whole spend 15% MORE than it earned, year after year after year.

                      In a very short time under Labour we went from having $60m mortgage debt to $160m.

                      We had a spending party of $100b, then realised we had exactly the SAME houses we had before, but owed an extra $100b in debt.

                      If we did the same now, we’d have low unemployment, a booming economy, then another bust.

                  • Draco T Bastard

                    (nearly 12 weeks total per year for zero work done)

                    Well then I suggest you buy some robots which can work 100% of the time.

                    Now, I really do suggest you work out how much it would cost to get contractors in to do the same work because they will be charging more than employees due to having to cover their own downtime (when they don’t have work to go to) as well as their holidays (overseas of course), sick pay, tea breaks, and administrative expenses.

                    You’re like most RWNJ employers. You want something but you never want to actually pay for it.

                  • Tat Loo (CV)

                    – 4 weeks of time in tea breaks.

                    Do you give your workers 20 minutes off paid for morning tea break, and 20 minutes off paid for afternoon tea break?

                    No wonder you can’t make any money!

      • Rogue Trooper 15.1.2

        “I can hide in you
        In your chestnut hair
        I’ll confide in you
        Whisper in your ear
        When the earth is ripe
        All the worms wake up
        In their stars and stripes
        And their swastikas
        There’s a cure in sight
        Set your soul at ease
        For the red and white
        And the Blue disease”

        “…got you on the handycam fits in my hand…”

  16. The Gormless Fool formerly known as Oleolebiscuitbarrell 16

    And the stupid fuckers in Treasury couldn’t even forecast an earthquake. Does their incompetence know no depths?

    • KJT 16.1

      They may have had more luck with earthquake forecasting than their economic forecasting.

      Still waiting for the brighter future treasury promised if we adopted Rogernomics.

      The only consistent thing about treasury forecasting is how wrong they have been .

      • photonz 16.1.1

        Since Rogernomics, (using 1985 as a base)
        – prices have gone up 173%.
        – wages have gone up 235%.

        http://www.rbnz.govt.nz/monetary_policy/inflation_calculator/

        • Tat Loo (CV) 16.1.1.1

          Hey keep repeating it mate, just lets every one know how disconnected you are from the reality that the majority of NZers are living through.

          • The Gormless Fool formerly known as Oleolebiscuitbarrell 16.1.1.1.1

            Yeah, photonz, fuck off with your statistics proving things that don’t suit Tat Loo. This must be stopped.

            • Draco T Bastard 16.1.1.1.1.1

              He linked to an inflation calculator, not any statistics. This would indicate that he has NFI WTF he’s talking about.

              Considering that you believed his lies would indicate that you, also, have NFI WTF you’re talking about.

              • The Gormless Fool formerly known as Oleolebiscuitbarrell

                I know. It’s tricky, isn’t it. But some of us managed to use this calculator thing to produce the actual statistics cited by photonz.

                Personally, I think it is all witchcraft. For the same reason, I never let my photograph be taken in case the photographer is stealing my soul.

                • Tat Loo (CV)

                  Au contraire. I really hope John Key bases his election campaign on how much better off people are now day to day, in his brighter future under a National Government.

              • McFlock

                I’m somewhat intrigued – the treasury calculator refers to “wages”, but the QES seems to bundle “wages and salaries”.

                I mean, we know MP’s salaries have increased, and managers’ are through the roof, but everyone else?

                • Draco T Bastard

                  Yep and that’s why we the actual statistics broken down into professions/trades and deciles. That way we’d be able to determine who’s better off and who’s worse off. Other statistics I’ve seen show that the lower deciles are worse off while the top decile is better off. everyone in between has stagnated.

                  • photonz

                    It very easy to calculate the bottom end.

                    Minimum wage has gone up 96% since 1999. ($7 to $13.75)

                    CPI Inflation which includes housing and rents has gone up 43% since 1999.

                    And in case you can’t work it out, a 96% wage increase is much bigger than a 43% inflation increase.

                    • One Anonymous Knucklehead

                      And every time the minimum wage went up, unemployment went down. Don’t forget to deny that part.

                      I note you have just debunked the standard model which postulates an inflationary effect of minimum wage increases.

                    • Tat Loo (CV)

                      CPI Inflation which includes housing and rents has gone up 43% since 1999.

                      So Auckland rents and house prices have only gone up 43% in the last 14 years?

                      Maybe you should live in the real world mate like the 60% of NZers who are struggling day to day with minimal net worth and low income.

                    • photonz

                      tat says “So Auckland rents and house prices have only gone up 43% in the last 14 years?”

                      Duh!!!! The CPI is not 100% housing.

                    • Tat Loo (CV)

                      Apparently; it’s also not representative of the loss of income share of minimum wage workers compared to the rest of the economy.

                    • McFlock

                      Oh, you’re excluding all the poor people!

                      Lol. I was trying to figure out what you weren’t counting, and then I realised that Treasury are basically only including the people lucky enough to have a job, while they have a job, and pretending that it refers to all NZers – hence the fudging of “salaries and wages” down to “wages”.

                      As for the minimum wage thing, does CPI have a different shopping basket for what poor people can afford, or is it one generic basket across all SES levels?

                      Because I know for a fact that I lived better on the dole 20 years ago than some of my relatives do now – and it wasn’t comfortable by any means even then.

                    • KJT

                      What Photo won’t tell you.

                      http://www.alternet.org/media/no-class-warfare-please-were-americans?page=0%2C1

                      “average US income rose 6 percent from 2009 through 2012, that was almost entirely absorbed by the top 1 percent of earners, whose incomes leaped by 31 percent during that time.”

                      In NZ it was 17% to the top income earners last financial year.
                      Every one else had nil or less than 2.2% wage increases.

                      Looks like we are well on the path to emulating the failed State that is the USA.

                    • KJT

                      And they now have to foot the bill for a whole lot of things that the State used to pay for.

                      The CPI is the rise in average prices over a basket of goods. It does not reflect expenses which did not exist years ago.

                      The advent of “user pays” has put a lot of extra expenses onto low income people.

            • Tracey 16.1.1.1.1.2

              He hasnt disproved oecd findings tho. We are second bottom to greece and below average on disposable income. Put those two together and the average and below average punter is struggling. Still the pm gives himself 8/10 so nothing to see here.

    • Rogue Trooper 16.2

      are you tearing into fissures G.

  17. Natwest 17

    Latest BNZ Confidence Survey – record high, with 65.7% of respondents (businesses and inviduals) very optomistic of how the economy is tracking.

    There goes next years election hopes for Labour.

    You can bang on about doom and gloom – but you can’t hide the fact from the majority that the country is performing exceedingly well.

    Labour & Cunliffe are going to have to come with something a little more economically savy than KiwiAssure, and “yeah nah” politics, because it ain’t cutting the mustard with mainstream NZ.

    • One Anonymous Knucklehead 17.1

      As all the opinion polls show, oh, no, wait.

      Business confidence is high because they’re sure things can’t get any worse. They’re wrong: Double Dipton has another twelve months in him.

    • Ad 17.2

      Confidence surveys are pretty fickle and can change with the weather.

      So can of course Preferred Prime Minister polls.

      The one I particularly watch for is the unemployment and underemployment figures, and the freight figures that accurately predict the GDP numbers.

      It’s their accumulated total that worries.

      I am OK to hold my breath while National continue to slip slowly in the polls, but as I have commented yesterday, if a series of those headline numbers start turning positive for National, it will be totally insufficient for Labour to presume it can win solely on the presumption that the 800,000 who did not vote last time will vote this time.

      We should definitely hold Key to account. But we should also hold David Cunliffe to account.

  18. Tracey 18

    Hmmmm photo

    you are the first small business owner I know of that earns less than everyone else in tge company. Despite your railing against the living wage you are already paying everyone who works for you more than 18 bucks an hour. I know this because you cannot take overseas trips once a year have investment property and a mortgage on the living wage.

    • photonz 18.1

      It’s VERY common for small business owners to have low earnings. The average income for photographers in NZ is $33,000.

      It’s well know that 50% of small businesses fail within five years. Less well known, is that by 8 years 75% have failed. Actually, just looked at stats on business.govt.nz and they say 70% fail in five years.

      “Only 25% of business owners actually receive a decent salary from their business, and only 5% actually are able to make significant drawings on top of this.” from

      http://www.mybusinessfinance.co.nz/blog/edward-mckee-wright-the-financier/Edward-McKee-Wright-Blog-1/

      Personally, I thought it would be higher than that, but many business owners I know only earn a reasonable wage by working 80 hours a week.

      • Tat Loo (CV) 18.1.1

        So all the SMEs and local manufacturers are closing down, yet a dozen large corporates are extracting a couple of hundy million out of the economy a week, and shipping the money overseas.

        And here you are fighting to keep power prices and broadband prices high for small bsuiness owners.

        Interesting.

        • photonz 18.1.1.1

          The dilema the left has is they hate foreign ownership, but if Kiwis invest in new tech (Chorus) or green tech (renewable energy power companies) like they tell us to, they make plans to screw them.

          Yeah, nah.

          Yeah, they want Kiwis to invest in NZ, but nah – not if they’ll make money from it.

          Job growth comes down to ONE single factor – companies making good profits. The left want more jobs, but they hate anyone making a profit.

          Yeah, nah.

          Yeah, they want jobs, but nah – not if it means companies will make a profit.

          Yeah they want new ultra fast broadband, but nah – they don’t want any of the users to have to pay for it.

          • One Anonymous Knucklehead 18.1.1.1.1

            What a boring tiresome litany, mindlessly scraped up from the bottom of the wingnut barrel, mindlessly spoonfed to Photonz, and mindlessly dribbling out onto Photonz keyboard.

            Not an original thought there, just the same old shite that bears no relation to the Left, or New Zealand history, or anything other than this cretinous, slow drudge.

            Hey, moran, isn’t it time you got some new lines?

          • Draco T Bastard 18.1.1.1.2

            Yeah, they want jobs, but nah – not if it means companies will make a profit.

            Nick Hanauer “Rich people don’t create jobs”

            Yeah they want new ultra fast broadband, but nah – they don’t want any of the users to have to pay for it.

            /facepalm

            Don’t need a profit to run a business. Just enough income to cover costs and a surplus to reinvest. No dividend payouts. The only way to get that is to run it as a government service. Though this will be cheaper than having the profiteers and competition it still gets paid for by the users. Exactly as it was before the sale of Telecom.

            • photonz 18.1.1.1.2.1

              Draco says “Just enough income to cover costs and a surplus to reinvest.”

              Surely you are financially literate enough to realise that a surplus IS the profit?

              Or to realise that if people don’t get a return, there’s not much point in investing their money in the first place?

              Or to realise that if there’s no profit margin, just a small downturn will send everyone bust.

              • mickysavage

                Photonz you are obviously so convinced but so lacking in understanding of reality.

                Chorus has badly underestimated the cost of the rollout and bid too cheaply.

                Chorus was told by the legislation that this Government passed that the cost of copper based broadband was going to be reduced.

                Yet you keep saying that neither is true.

                Why do you insist on arguing that reality is not what it is?

                • photonz

                  mickey savage says “Chorus has badly underestimated the cost of the rollout and bid too cheaply.”

                  No – the rollout was on target, and will continue to go fine if the copper pricing is the same as the government had indicated it would be.

                  But instead the Commerce Commission has come up with an extraordinarily low price that has not even the slightest thing to do with how much it costs Chorus to run (and replace) it’s old copper network.

                  They price they’ve used comes from a different system with different regulations in Sweden, then they’ve used a very low exchange rate to give a price for NZ that has nothing to do with costs in NZ.

                  The problem is that people don’t want the taxpayer to fork out money for the fibre network, and they don’t want internet users to fork out for the new network.

                  They are so off the planet they think private investors in Chorus should act as a charity.

                  • Tat Loo (CV)

                    Costs in NZ are inflated to prop up corporate profits.

                    Maybe we should re-tender and ask some of those operators from around the world to bid. Since you repeatedly say that they are so much more competitive and cheaper than Chorus.

                    • photonz

                      Tat loo says “You’re sure that this has nothing to do with Chorus’s incompetent bid which was far too low, and now needs bailing out to the tune of several hundred million dollars?”

                      Chorus doesn’t want a bail out. It hasn’t asked for a bail out.

                      All it wants if a fair price for use of it’s copper network, as per the range the government indicated.

                      Not some ridiculously low price the comcom pulled from some company in Sweden which has nothing to do with what it cost to run and replace the copper network in NZ.

                    • photonz

                      Duh !!! Get up to speed.

                      The comparison is with the copper network – not the fibre one.

                      If you want the copper network to be as cheap as the comparison overseas, first you’ll have to –
                      1/ bring in five million more people.
                      2/ put them all in one part of the country
                      3/ move most other people to that part of the country as well
                      4/ then tear down all the houses and make everyone live close together in apartment blocks.
                      5/ bring in another half billion people and put them in countries that have a border with NZ

                      THEN you’ll have a more even comparison with the copper networks the Commerce Commission is comparing us to.

              • Tat Loo (CV)

                Surely you are financially literate enough to realise that a surplus IS the profit?

                REINVESTED, moran. Not distributed out to wealthy shareholders so that the company is in hock to the banks to fund their next project, like Chorus is.

                Or to realise that if there’s no profit margin, just a small downturn will send everyone bust.

                Not the government. That’s the advantage governments have over private companies.

                Or to realise that if people don’t get a return, there’s not much point in investing their money in the first place?

                The government doesn’t need a financial return. The government can print money after all, why does it need “a profit”?. All the government needs to do is generate a social return. Yet another advantage governments have over private companies.

      • One Anonymous Knucklehead 18.1.2

        Ah, economic theory by the “things my mates tell me that match my existing bias and anecdotal experiences” school.

      • KJT 18.1.3

        “Only 25% of business owners actually receive a decent salary from their business”.

        Shows how many hide their real income to reduce tax.

  19. Tracey 19

    Correction to above post…

    travel overseas from time to time and have investments on 18 bucks an hour.

    the ranking of nz just above greece was the oecd so argue with them not me. We are below average in disposable income…so looking at the top 20 most expensive cities was a complete red herring

    ” While New Zealand scored “exceptionally well” overall on the latest Better Life Index, it fell behind in the income category, scoring a mere 3.3 out of 10.The country’s average household net-adjusted disposable income is US$21,892 a year (NZ$27,077), less than the OECD average of US$23,047.Household net-adjusted disposable income is the amount of money that a household earns, or gains, each year after taxes. It represents the money available to a household for spending on goods or services.”

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    An analysis of what went wrong and why, and what it means....
    Imperator Fish | 20-09
  • NZ General Election results
    Congratulations to the winners, commiserations to those who missed out. These are the results as at close of counting 1:10am today. This is where the rubber hits the road in a democracy. Check electionresults.govt.nz for latest results. {Fill the in...
    The Paepae | 20-09
  • Hard News: The sole party of government
    It turned out to be a great night for the National Party and its leader. For everyone else, the 2014 election result ran from disappointment to disaster.Even New Zealand First, which doubled the support it was showing in polls only...
    Public Address | 20-09
  • Electoral Fraud, Hacking, Law Breaking = National Winning?
    No matter which party you support, how does it make one tiny bit of sense that a party who in their own internal polling was only getting 42% support just days before the election can jump to 48%? Also, when...
    An average kiwi | 20-09
  • Election results, my first thoughts and so on
    So, the 2014 election results are in, with an emphatic win for National. Six years into his Prime Ministership, and having just been re-elected for a third term, John Key has achieved what very few NZ politicians have done before...
    Transport Blog | 20-09
  • Lessons to be learned
    As the gloating on the right wing and throughout the mainstream media begins, it's important that those who stand up for democracy don't lose heart.For a start, every defeat you can walk away from has at least one silver lining....
    The Jackal | 20-09
  • Three more years
    This election result is not the end of the world for me. I don’t have kids. I don’t have to worry about whether their school will be closed, or privatised, whether they have shoes to wear or a lunch to...
    Boots Theory | 20-09
  • The 2014 election result
    I have a few thoughts about the result last night. They are in no particular order so I’m just going to type them up and see how they fall. National appear to have won an outright majority despite being shown...
    My Thinks | 20-09
  • 2014 SkS Weekly News Roundup #38B
    2014 on track to be hottest year on record Arctic Sea Ice to reach sixth lowest extent on record China's dirty coal ban causes waves "If we want to prevent conflicts, we have to address climate change now" India's push...
    Skeptical Science | 20-09
  • ROUT!
    Triumphant! John Key leads National to its greatest victory since 1951, routing the forces of the Left in the process.  Progressive New Zealanders, we have some very serious thinking to do.This posting is exclusive to the Bowalley Road blogsite....
    Bowalley Road | 20-09
  • The Greens’ new caucus
    Despite goals of 15% and 20 MPs, the Greens only managed to just scrape over 10%, with their only new MP being James Shaw, with Steffan Browning missing out on getting back into Parliament. The Greens traditionally pick up an...
    Progress report | 20-09
  • Brief thoughts on National’s historic victory
    The National Party is an incredibly well resourced, well managed, professional political party and it turns out that these things counted for a lot last night. The phone was not off the hook for Labour. Twelve months ago, just after Cunliffe won...
    DimPost | 20-09
  • Labour’s new caucus
    It’s brutal. My expectations weren’t great, but this loss is much worse than I predicted. Labour’s worst defeat since 1922. Here is Labour’s new caucus… MP Seat David Cunliffe New Lynn David Parker List Grant Robertson Wellington Central Annette King...
    Progress report | 20-09
  • Five stages of left: a visual post election representation
      (Image source: distractify – Stuck Cats)...
    Politically Corrected | 20-09
  • Legal Beagle: Election 2014: The Special Votes
    We have a provisional result, and now await the official result after special votes are counted. Special votes are:those cast overseas;those cast on polling day by people voting outside their electorate;those cast by people who enrolled after the printed electoral...
    Public Address | 20-09
  • 2017
    .   . Bugger. Ok. We pick ourselves up, dust off, and  start working for a victory in 2017 (or earlier) tomorrow. . . = fs =Filed under: Various Tagged: 2017 Elections...
    Frankly Speaking | 20-09
  • 2017
    .   . Bugger. Ok. We pick ourselves up, dust off, and  start working for a victory in 2017 (or earlier) tomorrow. . . = fs =Filed under: Various Tagged: 2017 Elections...
    Frankly Speaking | 20-09
  • The Specials
    Based on the way the Special Votes fell in recent Elections, we might expect:- the Nats' Final Result to be about 0.5-0.7 points down, so perhaps around 47.5% or thereabouts- Labour to be up about 0.4 points, so around 25%-...
    Sub zero politics | 20-09
  • Legal Beagle: Election 2014: the no threshold counterfactual
    As I have done on election night of the last two elections, I present below the New Zealand House of Representatives, had the election been conducted with no threshold: National – 57 ACT – 1 United Future – 1 Conservatives – 5...
    Public Address | 20-09
  • I was wrong
    Of all the blogs I’ve written, I think the most off the mark was this one where I said I was “(tentatively) happy about Internet Mana.” Second would be this one where I underestimated how bad Dotcom’s failure at the Moment of Truth...
    Cut your hair | 20-09
  • A trifecta of electoral suck
    This week has been a trifecta of electoral suck. First, Fiji voted for dictatorship. Then Scotland voted to remain subjugated to Westminster. And finally, New Zealand voted for a third-term majority National government. The last boggles me. Not the fact...
    No Right Turn | 20-09
  • The Final Election Result Is – 48% of Kiwis Are Arrogant Idiots!
    Though there is still about 18% of the vote to come in, it looks fairly certain the proven incompetent, dishonest and corrupt National Party are going to get at least 48% of the vote. Incredibly we had actual evidence National...
    An average kiwi | 20-09
  • 50 Canadian climate researchers speak out in support of the People’s ...
    The Canadian government is hell-bent on exploiting the Alberta tar sands to the fullest extent possible, even at the expense of the global climate. Canada simply cannot meet its carbon pollution reduction pledges if it continues to expand tar sands...
    Skeptical Science | 20-09
  • Election 2014!! The live, rolling, increasingly intoxicated Post From Hell
    7pm - Drinking red (naturally) wine.  A 2011 Mt hector Pinot Noir.  Very nice it is too - likely the last nice thing I may experience for the next couple of hours.  We're doomed, I tell you, doomed!  And if we're...
    Left hand palm | 20-09
  • Speaker: A live peek at your cray
    On Saturday morning London time, a rag-tag bunch of left-wing weirdos will descend on my flat to huddle around the glow of livestreams, making panic pikelets and schadenfreude pie, and wishing it was evening here so we could justify sinking...
    Public Address | 20-09
  • Election Day Post # 10
    The last of my special election day posts, in which I honour our freedom to dare not say anything remotely political until 7pm...
    Imperator Fish | 20-09
  • Election Day Post #9
    The ninth of my special election day posts, in which I honour our freedom to dare not say anything remotely political until 7pm...
    Imperator Fish | 20-09
  • The Big Man
    So, Alex Salmond has announced he will step down as First Minister of Scotland.  This is, of course, being presented as throwing his toys and peevish behaviour following the independence referendum and the defeat of the 'Yes' campaign.Which is an...
    Left hand palm | 20-09
  • Election Day Post #8
    The eighth of my special election day posts, in which I honour our freedom to dare not say anything remotely political until 7pm...
    Imperator Fish | 20-09
  • Voting turnout affected by bad weather?
    . . NZ, Upper Hutt, 20 September –  Cold, wet weather in the Hutt Valley, north of Wellington may be impacting on voter turn-out. A head-count of people visiting the Trentham School Voting Station in Moonshine Rd, Upper Hutt, indicated...
    Frankly Speaking | 20-09
  • Voting turnout affected by bad weather?
    . . NZ, Upper Hutt, 20 September –  Cold, wet weather in the Hutt Valley, north of Wellington may be impacting on voter turn-out. A head-count of people visiting the Trentham School Voting Station in Moonshine Rd, Upper Hutt, indicated...
    Frankly Speaking | 20-09
  • Election Day Post #7
    The seventh of my special election day posts, in which I honour our freedom to dare not say anything remotely political until 7pm...
    Imperator Fish | 20-09
  • Election Day Post #6
    The sixth of my special election day posts, in which I honour our freedom to dare not say anything remotely political until 7pm...
    Imperator Fish | 20-09
  • Another Song For Election Day (As Requested By “Kat”)
     NOT DARK YET: Bob Dylan's haunting hymn to the failing day and advancing night.   I was born here and I'll die here against my will I know it looks like I'm movin' but I'm standin' still Every nerve in my body...
    Bowalley Road | 20-09
  • Man Steals Nun’s Blue and White Livery, Says Newspaper Made Him Do It
    Tapping into the Party Line: A prominent talkback radio listener detected a subtle right-wing tone at work in The New Zealand Herald‘s advertising.    By Hemi Iti, 20 September 2014 An Auckland man was charged with theft and impersonating a...
    Snoopman News | 20-09
  • Election Day Post #5
    The fifth of my special election day posts, in which I honour our freedom to dare not say anything remotely political until 7pm...
    Imperator Fish | 20-09
  • Looking through dirty windows into an empty room
    A colleague of mine once described how he'd felt when interviewing a particularly nasty person who'd been engaged in some very unpleasant behaviour at work. He said that looking into the man's eyes was like, 'looking through dirty windows into an empty...
    Te Whare Whero | 19-09
  • Hard News: Decision 2014: Where to watch and listen
    There were quite a few queries on the wires last night as to where a person who can't receive New Zealand broadcasts might stay abreast of today's election results. Short version: you're spoiled for choice. As I understand it, none...
    Public Address | 19-09
  • Election Day Post #4
    The fourth of my special election day posts, in which I honour our freedom to dare not say anything remotely political until 7pm...
    Imperator Fish | 19-09
  • Such A Parcel Of Rogues In A Nation (For All Those True Scots Who Voted ...
      SUCH A PARCEL OF ROGUES IN A NATION: British folk-rock group, Steeleye Span, captures the bleak bitterness of Burn's 1791 poem in their superb 1973 rendition of the traditional Scottish folk song. Farewell now to our Scottish fameFarewell our ancient glory;Farewell...
    Bowalley Road | 19-09
  • Hold fast to your Mana – Harawira
    Hone Harawira today called on the voters of Tai Tokerau to hold fast to their mana, and not be dictated to by those party leaders who have ganged together to tell them how to vote. “I call on our people...
    Mana | 18-09
  • Media Advisory – Interview availability
    This is to advise all media that Hone Harawira will be available in Auckland tomorrow, Friday the 19th of September from 7am to 4pm for interviews relating to his recent press releases. If you are interested in interviewing Mr Harawira on...
    Mana | 18-09
  • Labour stands on proud record on Suffrage Day
    Women have come a long way in the 121 years since New Zealand became the first country to give them the vote on September 19 1893, but there is still more to do, Labour’s Women’s Affairs spokesperson Carol Beaumont says....
    Labour | 18-09
  • Polling Booths asked to treat Maori voters with respect
    “Polling booths without Maori roll voting papers, Maori people not being offered assistance to vote, people getting sent from Whangarei to Wellsford to vote, Maori people getting turned away from voting because they didn’t have their ‘easy vote’ card, Maori...
    Mana | 17-09
  • Aussie Liberals embroiled in Key campaign
    John Key needs to explain why Australia’s Liberal Party is interfering in New Zealand domestic politics and is encouraging Kiwi voters across the ditch to vote for National just days out from the election, Labour’s campaign spokesperson Annette King says....
    Labour | 17-09
  • The MANA Plan for Beneficiaries and Income in Waiariki
    Median Personal Income for Waiariki is $21,700. Over 13,000 Maori who live in Waiariki rely upon a form of government benefit including the Unemployment Benefit, Sickness Benefit, Domestic Purpose Benefit and the Invalids Benefit. “If you’re lucky enough to have...
    Mana | 16-09
  • Māori development crucial to New Zealand’s future
    Labour recognises the concern of Māori about child poverty and the rising costs of living, and in Government will make a real difference to the wellbeing of whānau and iwi, Labour’s Māori Affairs spokesperson Nanaia Mahuta says. “As our Māori...
    Labour | 16-09
  • MAORI PARTY – DON’T COMPLAIN … WALK
    “If the Maori Party are serious about stopping government spying on NZ citizens then they should tell the Prime Minister to either stop doing it or they will walk away” said MANA leader and Tai Tokerau MP Hone Harawira, on...
    Mana | 16-09
  • JOHN KEY SUPPORTING LABOUR
    “There is something really sick about a National Party Prime Minister coming out in support of a Labour candidate” said MANA leader and Tai Tokerau MP, Hone Harawira, after hearing that John Key is urging voters to back Labour in...
    Mana | 16-09
  • SHUT DOWN THIS GOVT NOT KAITI WINZ – Nikora
    “I’m going to make it as hard for you to get help as I can” is Paula Bennett’s message to the people of Kaiti  said MANA candidate Te Hāmua Nikora today in response to the news that National will close...
    Mana | 16-09
  • Winegums make for better polling – Harawira
    I wanted to laugh when I saw the Native Affairs poll the other night (Hone Harawira 38%, Kelvin Davis 37%) because it was almost the same as the one they did back in 2011”, said MANA leader and Tai Tokerau...
    Mana | 16-09
  • The Leadership of MTS Lied – Harawira
    “Normally I’m happy to tell people that I was right but when I received the news about the staff cuts at Maori Television, I had nothing but sympathy for the three Maori media leaders who are going to be made...
    Mana | 16-09
  • Privileges Complaint Laid against Prime Minister – Harawira
    MANA Movement Leader and Te Tai Tokerau MP Hone Harawira has today lodged a Privileges Complaint with the Speaker regarding the Prime Ministers denials in parliament that he knew anything about Kim Dotcom before 2012. “Information made public today appears...
    Mana | 15-09
  • Sharples’ new appointments are out of order
    The new appointments to the Waitangi Tribunal announced by Dr Pita Sharples this morning are completely out of order given the election is just five days away, says Labour's State Services spokesperson, Maryan Street. “This Government continues to show disdain...
    Labour | 15-09
  • MANA Movement Housing Policy
    “When families are living in cars, garages, cockroach-infested caravans and three families to a house then we have a housing crisis”, said MANA leader and MP for Te Tai Tokerau, Hone Harawira. “When you have a housing crisis for low-income...
    Mana | 15-09
  • Bigger than the Foreshore and Seabed – Sykes
    “Over the past week I have received some disturbing information that has led myself and a number of Maori lawyers to conclude that this National - Maori Party - ACT and United Future Government are going to put an end to both...
    Mana | 14-09
  • MANA wants Te Reo Māori petition fulfilled
    Hone Harawira, MANA Leader and MP for Te Tai Tokerau Annette Sykes, MANA candidate for Waiariki Te Hāmua Nikora, MANA candidate for Ikaroa Rāwhiti  “More than four decades have passed and the petition calling for Te Reo Māori in schools...
    Mana | 14-09
  • Primary focus on the critical issues
    A Labour Government will prioritise New Zealand’s agricultural sectors by recreating a Rural Affairs Minister and appointing a Primary Industry Council and a Chief Agricultural Adviser. Releasing Labour’s Primary Sector and Rural Affairs policies today, spokesperson Damien O’Connor says the...
    Labour | 12-09
  • Maori Television fears confirmed – Harawira
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    Mana | 12-09
  • More ghost houses from National
    The Government’s desperate pre-election announcement of more ghost houses won’t fool Aucklanders wanting action on the housing crisis, says Labour’s Housing spokesperson Phil Twyford. “These are ghost houses, to go with National’s ghost tax cut. Families cannot live in ghost...
    Labour | 12-09
  • National bows to union pressure over travel time
    National has reluctantly bowed to pressure from unions and adopted Labour’s fair and sensible policy to pay home support workers for the time they spend traveling between clients, Labour’s Associate Health spokesperson Iain Lees-Galloway says. “This decision is long overdue...
    Labour | 12-09
  • Predators on Poverty – Harawira
    “As poverty has ballooned out of control, the Predators on Poverty have emerged to suck the lifeblood from whole families and communities” said MANA Movement leader and Tai Tokerau MP, Hone Harawira. “They are deliberately targeting low-income areas, particularly those...
    Mana | 11-09
  • MANA Movement Policy Launch
    Predators on Poverty (pokie machines, alcohol outlets and loan sharks) 1pm, Thursday 11th September Corner Great South Road and Criterion Street Otahuhu Shopping Centre...
    Mana | 10-09
  • Eliminating Poverty – Sir Edmund Hillary Collegiate, Otara | Internet MAN...
    A campaign to Eliminate Poverty, Feed the Kids, build more houses, and create thousands of new jobs, was outlined by Internet MANA at a public meeting in Otara this evening. When MANA and the Internet Party first sat down to...
    Mana | 09-09
  • Housing in Waiariki – Sykes
    Fact:  Under this National-Maori Party-ACT-United Future Government 61% of Maori in Waiariki do not own their own home and nearly 70% of Maori rentals in Waiariki pay $200 or more per week. “Maori in Waiariki have low rates of home ownership...
    Mana | 09-09
  • Charter school crisis shows time to axe costly experiment
    Dysfunction from day one at a Northland charter school shows it is time to dump this costly and failed experiment by the National-ACT Government, Labour’s Education spokesperson Chris Hipkins says. “Te Kura Hourua ki Whangaruru received $27,000 in government funding...
    Labour | 08-09
  • Labour will crack down on loan sharks
    A Labour Government will crack down on predatory loan sharks by making it illegal both to charge exorbitant interest rates and to exploit uninformed borrowers, Labour’s Consumer Affairs Spokesperson Carol Beaumont says. Labour today released its Consumer Affairs policy which...
    Labour | 08-09
  • Let’s do the FEED before the weed
    “Last week I put out a very strongly worded email to my colleagues about an online promotion about cannabis law reform” said MANA leader and Tai Tokerau MP, Hone Harawira “and I stand by that criticism today.” My concern was...
    Mana | 08-09
  • TE KAEA and NATIVE AFFAIRS live to fight another day
    “I understand that both the chair of the Board of Maori Television, Georgina Te Heuheu, and new CEO, Paora Maxwell, are now saying that my comments this morning about their plans to cut Te Kaea and Native Affairs, were wrong, and that...
    Mana | 08-09
  • How come the PM only pays 2.8% of his income in tax – Harawira
    “Before John Key talks about the piddling tax cuts he plans for low and middle income families today he needs to explain why he only pays 2.8% of his income on tax while a minimum wage worker pays 28% tax,”...
    Mana | 07-09
  • THE DEATH OF INDEPENDENCE FOR MAORI TV
    “If what I’m hearing is true, tomorrow Maori Television Service (MTS) will dump its news programme, Te Kaea, and staff will lose their jobs” said MANA Leader and MP for Te Tai Tokerau, Hone Harawira “and the Minister of Maori...
    Mana | 07-09
  • Labour recommits to Pike River families
    An incoming Labour-led government will do everything possible to recover the bodies of the Pike River Miners and return them to their families, says Labour Leader David Cunliffe. “This tragedy and its aftermath has left the families of the 29...
    Labour | 06-09
  • Voting has started and still no tax plan or fiscal budget for voters to see
    "Even though voting for the election has already begun, National still refuses to provide any details of its proposed tax cuts. And Bill English admitted this morning that he won’t provide any specifics until after the election", Labour’s Finance spokesperson...
    Labour | 06-09
  • National’s partners’ tax plans cost at least $42 billion
    If National forms the next government its partners’ tax plans will cost the country at least $42 billion, and maybe as much as $50 billion, wreaking havoc with the books, says Labour’s Finance spokesperson David Parker. “National claims to be...
    Labour | 05-09
  • Labour: Providing more opportunities for young Kiwis
    A Labour Government will ensure every young Kiwi under the age of 20 is given the opportunity to be in work, education or training, and plans to develop a conservation apprenticeship scheme to help do that, Labour’s Youth Affairs spokesperson...
    Labour | 04-09
  • Candles out on teachers’ slice of birthday cake
    Today may be Novopay’s second birthday, but there’s little to celebrate, Labour’s Education spokesperson Chris Hipkins says. “Novopay has cost the taxpayer tens of millions of dollars already, and the cost is still climbing....
    Labour | 04-09
  • National’s blatant broadband pork barrelling misses the mark by a country...
    National’s blatant pork-barrelling ICT announcement today should reinforce a growing sceptical electorate’s view that they are all about the gift wrap and not the present, Labour’s ICT spokesperson Clare Curran says. “Instead of addressing the real issues - the woeful...
    Labour | 04-09
  • More evidence of the need to clean up the system
    The latest release of emails and messages between disgraced Minister Judith Collins and blogger Cameron Slater are more evidence of the urgent need to clean up politics, Labour MP Grant Robertson says. "This new evidence confirms a near constant flow...
    Labour | 04-09
  • Labour commits to stable funding for voluntary sector
    A Labour Government will establish long-term funding and streamline contract accountability for community and voluntary groups, says Labour’s spokesperson for the sector Louisa Wall. Announcing Labour’s policy for the community and voluntary sector, she said this would give much greater...
    Labour | 04-09
  • Better trained and skilled workforce under Labour
    Labour is committed to a skilled workforce that benefits businesses as well as their workers, and will increase workplace training to improve productivity and drive innovation, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. “Labour believes the Government should support New Zealanders into...
    Labour | 03-09
  • Labour will make renting a better option
    Labour will provide greater security of tenure for renters, and build more state and social housing, says Labour’s housing spokesperson Phil Twyford. “Labour believes every kid deserves a decent start in life. That means a warm, dry and secure home....
    Labour | 03-09
  • At least 15 new taxes under National
    John Key is the last person to talk about creating taxes, presiding over a Government that has imposed at least 15 new taxes, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. “John Key tried a novel line in the debate last night claiming...
    Labour | 03-09
  • Labour will strengthen New Zealand’s democracy
    A Labour Government will act quickly to protect and enhance New Zealand’s reputation as one of the most open and least corrupt countries in the world, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. “The health of any democracy is improved by greater...
    Labour | 02-09
  • MANA Movement says tax cut on GST must be first priority – Minto
    “If Prime Minister John Key has money available for tax cuts then cutting GST must be the first priority”,  said MANA Movement Economic Justice Spokesperson John Minto. GST is a nasty tax on low-income families”, said Minto. “People in the...
    Mana | 02-09
  • The Maori Party’s Mana-Enhancing Relationship with National – Minto
    “First we had Cameron Slater and David Farrar backing Labour’s Kelvin Davis bid to unseat MANA Movement Leader and MP for Te Tai Tokerau Hone Harawira.  Now we have Slater writing a pro-Te Ururoa Flavell article on his website, Whale...
    Mana | 02-09
  • There’s Only One Poll That Counts
    “One of the oldest sayings in politics is that there is only one poll that counts – the one on Election Day – and that’s the one that I am focusing on” remarked the MANA Movement candidate for Waiariki, Annette...
    Mana | 02-09
  • Local communities critical to Civil Defence
    Labour will focus on empowering New Zealand communities to be resilient in Civil Defence disasters, says Labour’s Civil Defence spokesperson Clare Curran. Announcing Labour’s Civil Defence policy, she says that Labour will work with schools, voluntary agencies and community groups...
    Labour | 02-09
  • Labour looks to long-life passports, gambling harm review
    A return to 10 year passports and a review of gambling laws are highlights of Labour’s Internal Affairs policy released today. “More than 15,000 New Zealanders signed a petition calling on the Government to revert to the 10 year system...
    Labour | 02-09
  • MANA Movement Leadership stands strong behind Internet MANA relationship
    “There is now, and always will be, a range of views about many issues within our movement and members are free to express them, but Georgina’s views on Kim Dotcom are not shared by the MANA Movement leadership or the vast majority...
    Mana | 01-09
  • Rebuilding the New Zealand Defence Force
    A Labour Government will make it a priority to rebuild the capacity of the Defence Force to carry out the tasks expected of it, says Labour’s Defence Spokesperson Phil Goff. Releasing Labour’s Defence Policy today he said the NZDF has...
    Labour | 01-09
  • A Fiji democratic mandate for the coup leader – what now for the media?
    Attorney-General Sayad-Khaiyum and Rear-Admiral (Ret) Voreqe Bainimarama’s Fiji First party is poised to lead the country in the next four years. Photo: Mads Anneberg, an AUT Pacific Media Centre student on internship in Suva with Repúblika Magazine and Pacific Scoop...
    The Daily Blog | 21-09
  • Why I voted Labour and why 2017 will be different
    As a 3nd and 5th generation Kiwi-Indian (depending on which side of the family we have to go with), my relationship with New Zealand is a special one. Like other New Zealanders who are not of the Caucasian variety, the...
    The Daily Blog | 20-09
  • Humble Pie
    Oh. My. God. This was a heartbreaking nightmare. I was wrong, horribly, horribly, horribly wrong. I honestly believed that the resources, the media attention, the vile toxic politics exposed by Dirty Politics and the mass surveillance lies would have seen...
    The Daily Blog | 20-09
  • Election 2014; A Post-mortem; a Wake; and one helluva hang-over
    .   . It would be fair to say that the results for Election 2014 did not go as anticipated. The Left has had a drubbing – and some of it was of our own making. In other aspects, there...
    The Daily Blog | 20-09
  • Voting turnout affected by bad weather?
    . . NZ, Upper Hutt, 20 September –  Cold, wet weather in the Hutt Valley, north of Wellington may be impacting on voter turn-out. A head-count of people visiting the Trentham School Voting Station in Moonshine Rd, Upper Hutt, indicated...
    The Daily Blog | 20-09
  • Final total of advance voting
    And the final total for the advance voting was a staggering 717,579 advance votes against 334,558 in 2011       Tonight, I’ll be watching the TV3 election coverage because I could bare Paul Henry’s smugness one inch more than Mike Hosking’s...
    The Daily Blog | 20-09
  • Vice article on NZ election
    Here is my Vice article on the NZ election....
    The Daily Blog | 19-09
  • The attempt to kill off Internet MANA
    It’s the last day of campaigning today and the long list of those attacking Internet MANA got longer yesterday with Winston Peters backing Labour candidate Kelvin Davis against the MANA Movement’s Hone Harawira. Davis is now supported by Labour, National,...
    The Daily Blog | 19-09
  • A final word on the election – it’s now all up to you
    Brothers & Sisters, the fate of Aotearoa is now all in your hands. We here at the Daily Blog have thrown everything we can at this bloody Government and have spent every waking hour of this campaign trying to highlight...
    The Daily Blog | 19-09
  • I can’t tell what is National Party advert and what is the NZ Herald – ...
    I can’t tell what is National Party advert and what is the NZ Herald – but then again, I never could...
    The Daily Blog | 19-09
  • TVNZ election coverage – white people telling other white people why Nati...
    TVNZ election coverage – white people telling other white people why National Party is great...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • REVIEW: Royals of Kihikihi
    What an absolutely stunning show.  I had to ask twice to check I’d heard right that this is the first staged production for Samuel Christopher, who also played a raw, real, but vulnerable, Wolf Royal, home from London for his...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • 800 Cops to detain 15 ‘terrorists’ – why Australia’s hysterical Isl...
    I’m sorry but I can’t take this current Australian terror threat seriously. 800 cops to detain 15 people and arrest one of them? A week after Abbot decides to send in Australian forces to the cluster fuck of Iraq, suddenly...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • Unbelievable corruption inside Government to attack Kim Dotcom
    The corruption inside this Government just more and more filthy – we now have an ex-Customs Lawyer quitting  after being told to bury information that could embarrass the Government, specifically to do with Kim Dotcom… Curtis Gregorash said he was told...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • Coalition for Better Broadcasting – Everyone Loves A Win-Win That Keeps G...
      Permit me to quote some figures at you… -68% of New Zealanders think political news on television focuses too much on politicians’ personalities and not enough on real issues. This is the key result of a recent UMR survey commissioned by...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking rant on Radio Hauraki: Today, another week of ...
    Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking rant on Radio Hauraki: Today, another week of being the most in demand broadcaster in the country...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • EXCLUSIVE: Te Tai Tokerau independent poll (44% Hone-27% Kelvin) vs Maori T...
    The Te Tai Tokerau Maori TV poll on Monday this week painted a bleak picture for Internet MANA supporters, and it’s results have been seized upon by Labour, NZ First and even the Maori Party (who seem set once again...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • The time for TPPA weasel words is over
    Almost every day of the election campaign there has been a policy announcement that would potentially run foul of what I understand is currently in the Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement (TPPA):  more constraints on foreign investment or investors … regulation of...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • MELTDOWN – Maori Party turns on their own Te Tai Tokerau candidate – ag...
    The tensions are building in Te Tai Tokerau with the Maori Party on the verge of meltdown. Days out from the election, the Maori Party Executive has tried to heavy their own Te Tai Tokerau Electoral Committee and their own candidate, Te Hira Paenga,...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • We Can Change this Government
    We Can Change this Government – Mike Treen at the First Union stop work election meeting...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • Election 2014: For and Against
    With the general election tomorrow, we have had a very noisy campaign but little sign that the electorate wishes for a fundamental change of governmental direction. This reflects in part the fact that the economic cycle is close to its decadal...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • Eye To Eye Uploaded: Martyn ‘Bomber’ Bradbury
    This interview was filmed a couple of weeks ago between Willie Jackson and myself, I was a tad off with my prediction of NZ First....
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • The Donghua Liu Affair – The Players Revealed
      . . – Special investigation by Frank Macskasy & ‘Hercules‘ Speculation that the Beehive office of Immigration Minister, Michael Woodhouse, was behind the release of a letter linking Labour leader, David Cunliffe, with controversial Chinese businessman, Donghua Liu, is...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • As if you needed another reason to boycott Telecom/Spark – they sold NZ d...
    It should read ‘never stop spying’. As if you needed another reason to boycott Telecom/Spark – they sold us down the river to the US by allowing the Southern Cross cable to be tapped… The ability for US intelligence agencies...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • The NZ First-Labour Party attack strategy against Internet MANA better work
    The final days of the campaign are ticking down and Labour and NZ First are manoeuvring to kill off the Internet MANA Party by both backing Kelvin Davis for Te Tai Tokerau. It’s a risky gambit that they better pray to Christ...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • Bill English’s latest insult to beneficiaries – apparently they are lik...
    National’s hatred towards the poor continues unabated as National desperately try to throw raw meat to their reactionary voter base in the hope to inspire enough hate and loathing to win back their redneck voters from the Conservative Party and from...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • Eminem ain’t happy with John Key
    Eminem ain’t happy with John Key...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • Key claims he did not inhale
    Key claims he did not inhale...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • Final prediction on election result 2014
    What an election campaign. The character assassination of David Cunliffe kicked things off with the Herald on Sunday falsely claiming $100 00 bottles of wine, $15 000 books and $150 000 in donations  from a donor that turned out to be...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • Live blog: Bainamarama takes commanding lead in Fiji elections
      Interview with Repúblika editor Ricardo Morris and Pacific Scoop’s Mads Anneberg. PACIFIC SCOOP TEAM By Ricardo Morris, Mads Anneberg, Alistar Kata and Biutoka Kacimaiwai in Suva WHILE the results are provisional at this stage, it is clear today that...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • 5AA Australia: NZ Elections Two Days To Go! + Edward Snowden + Julian Assan...
    Recorded live on 18/09/14 – Captured Live on Ustream at http://www.ustream.tv/channel/multimedia-investments-ltd 5AA Australia’s Peter Godfrey and Selwyn Manning deliver their weekly bulletin: Across The Ditch. This week, they discuss the latest news as New Zealanders go to the polls on...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • What has Colin Craig done for his Press Secretary to quit 2 days before ele...
    This is VERY strange.  Colin Craig’s Press Secretary Rachel McGregor, has quit 2 days before the election, allegedly telling ZB that Colin Craig was a “very manipulative man”. I’ve met Rachel many times in the past as Colin’s Press Secretary, she is...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • “If you want steak, go to the supermarket and buy steak,” – A brief w...
    “If you want steak, go to the supermarket and buy steak,” said Key in the final leaders debate. Problem of course is that the 250 000 – 285 000 children living in poverty can not afford steak, milk, butter, eggs...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • National’s final bash of beneficiaries before the election
    On cue, whenever National feel threatened, they roll out a little bennie bash just to keep their redneck voter base happy. Nothing like a bit of raw meat policy to keep National voters focused on the evil threat solo parents...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • With All Of This In Mind, I Vote
    This is my last blog before the election and I really just want to speak from the heart. Right now in this country it seems to me that a lot of people consider the “essentials” in life to be simply...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • Left has to vote strategically this election
    The dedication, loyalty, and tribalism of party politics means that sometimes the left lets itself down by not voting strategically. We all want our favoured party to get maximum votes, naturally, but the winner-takes-all approach doesn’t always suit multi-party left...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • Dear NZ – as you enter the polling booth, stand up for your rights
    The last days before a NZ general election are a busy time as politicians make their pitch and party activists prepare to get out the vote. It is sort of weird watching from the distance of Europe the strangest election...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • What is Waihopai, John, if it isn’t a facility for “mass surveillance...
    John Key assured us on RNZ’s Nine to Noon programme yesterday that “In terms of the Fives Eyes data bases… yes New Zealand will contribute some information but not mass wholesale surveillance.” How does this square with the operation of the...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • GUEST BLOG: Catherine Delahunty – Mass Surveillance and the Banality of E...
    Renowned journalist and intellectual Hannah Arendt coined the phrase “the banality of evil” to describe the normalisation of genocide in Nazi Germany. I thought of her phrase when I was listening to Glenn Greenwald and other international whistle-blowers talking about...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • Election. Down. To. The. Wire
    Funny how last week it was John Key winning by 50%, now it’s neck and neck. I have always believed this election would be down to the wire and it is proving so. The flawed landline opinion polls the mainstream...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • 3rd Degree uses Whaleoil for story ideas as if Dirty Politics never happene...
    TV3s 3rd Degrees smear job on Kim Dotcom last night doesn’t bear much repeating. It was pretty pathetic journalism from a team who have brought us some great journalism in the past. It is sad to see 3rd Degree stooping...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • Live blog: Bainimarama takes early lead in Fiji’s election
    Pacific Scoop’s Alistar Kata reports from yesterday’s voting. By Alistar Kata of Pacific Scoop in Suva Prime Minister Voreqe Bainimarama took an early lead in provisional results in the Fiji general election last night. With provisional results from 170 out...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • Has The NSA Constructed The Perfect PPP?
    Former intelligence analyst and whistleblower, Edward Snowden – speaking live to those gathered at the Auckland Town Hall on Monday September 17, 2014. Investigation by Selwyn Manning. THE PRIME MINISTER JOHN KEY’s admission on Wednesday that whistleblower Edward Snowden “may...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • No way – Key admits Snowden is right
    After claiming there was no middle ground. After claiming there was no mass surveillance. After calling Glenn Greenwald a henchman and a loser. After all the mainstream media pundits screamed at Kim’s decision to take his evidence to Parliamentary Privileges...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • Bad luck National
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    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • The incredible changing John Key story on mass spying – why the Moment of...
    While the mainstream media continue to try and make the Moment of Truth about Kim’s last minute decision to prolong his battle against John Key past the election into the Privileges Committee, the reality is that the Moment of Truth...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • GUEST BLOG: Curwen Rolinson – Themes of the Campaign
    There’s one area of a political campaign that just about everyone, at some point, falls afoul of. The campaign song. I’m not sure quite why it is, but it seems to be almost impossible for political parties to come up...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • GUEST BLOG – Denis Tegg – The NSA slides that prove mass surveillance
    The evidence presented by Glenn Greenwald and Edward Snowden on The Intercept of mass surveillance of New Zealanders by the GCSB is undeniable, and can stand on its own. But when you place this fresh evidence in the context of...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • Ukraine, United Kingdom, Ireland, Scotland
    The Ukrainian civil war discomforts me. It seems to me the most dangerous political crisis since the Cuban missile crisis of 1962. And it’s because of our unwillingness to examine the issues in a holistic way. We innately prefer to...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • John Key’s love affair with a straw man – the relationship intensifies
    John Key’s love affair with the straw man is now a fully-committed relationship. It’s now the first love of his life. Sorry Bronagh. Yesterday I pointed to Key’s constant assurances that there is no mass surveillance of New Zealanders by...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • National-led Government wins mandate for RMA reforms
    An unprecedented increase in support for the third-term National Party, the best electoral performance since 1899, has delivered a clear mandate for reform of the Resource Management Act says Federated Farmers. “Vital reforms to the RMA have...
    Scoop politics | 21-09
  • New Zealand says no to Culture of Death
    Right to Life is pleased that the people of New Zealand have rejected a culture of death by refusing to elect a Labour/Green government that supported the decriminalisation of abortion....
    Scoop politics | 21-09
  • Q + A – Steven Joyce
    CORIN Steven Joyce if we could start with how things are going to look now with your support partners. Can you just run us through, National can technically govern alone on what you’ve got at the moment, do you think...
    Scoop politics | 21-09
  • Q + A – Kelvin Davis
    SUSAN Well earlier this morning, just before we came to air in fact, Corin spoke to Kelvin Davis, one of the big winners of the night, the new MP for Te Tai Tokerau....
    Scoop politics | 21-09
  • Q + A – David Cunliffe
    CORIN Joining me now is Labour Leader, David Cunliffe. Good morning to you Mr Cunliffe. This is a tough result for Labour, how much personal responsibility do you take for this....
    Scoop politics | 21-09
  • Grey Power congratulates Key
    Grey Power National President Terry King congratulated John Key for his party’s “resounding win “ in yesterday’s election and hoped that the new National Government would look hard at issues affecting the ever–growing number of older New Zealanders....
    Scoop politics | 21-09
  • EMA congratulates PM John Key and National
    The Employers and Manufacturers Association extend hearty congratulations to the re-election of Prime Minister John Key and National....
    Scoop politics | 21-09
  • Helen Clark Receives Inaugural Women’s Health Rights Award
    Helen Clark was honoured as the first recipient of the Women’s Health Rights Award at the 121st Woman’s Suffrage event held in Auckland....
    Scoop politics | 21-09
  • National deal with New Zealand First unlikely
    The National party is unlikely to offer a confidence and supply agreement to New Zealand First according to Dr Ryan Malone, Director Training and Research at Civicsquare....
    Scoop politics | 20-09
  • Daily Election Update #12: NZ First to hold balance of power
    Winston Peters’ NZ First Party will hold the balance of power after tomorrow’s election, according to the combined wisdom of the 8000+ registered traders on New Zealand’s predictions market, iPredict. Mr Peters is then expected to back a National-led...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Election Day is Time to Refocus on Policies
    Over the course of this election campaign there has been a lot of focus on dirty politics and spying, and not a lot on policy. With election day looming, Gareth Morgan is calling for people to refocus on the issues....
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • The Kiwi FM Alternative Election Commentary
    Saturday 20 September from 7pm on 102.2 Auckland, 102.1 Wellington, 102.5 Canterbury, or KiwiFM.co.nz...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Beneficiary Bashing unacceptable
    Kay Brereton of the Beneficiary Advocacy Federation of New Zealand says “ the comment made by Bill English yesterday comparing beneficiaries to crack addicts is shocking and incredibly poorly timed.”...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • UN Experience Beneficial
    Acclaim Otago representatives have just completed their participation at the UN Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disability examination of the New Zealand government in Geneva, Switzerland. "It was an interesting two days which we believe has...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Changing face of NZ should be reflected in newsrooms
    With Fairfax Media’s Journalism Intern search closing on Sunday, Race Relations Commissioner Dame Susan Devoy is urging aspiring journalists from Maori, Pacific and ethnic communities to apply. The deadline was recently extended to 10pm, Sunday...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • SPCA expresses concern over toxin in waterways
    Ric Odom CEO of Royal NZ SPCA has expressed concern over the toxic poison 1080 entering waterways, but DoC, Council’s and Ministry of Health have colluded to make it legal....
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • NZ 2014 Election Index – 13-18 September
    Below is iSentia’s final weekly Election Index, covering the period 13-18 September and showing the relative amount of coverage of nine Party Leaders in the lead up to the National Election across news media and social media. The methodology used...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Epsom Candidate (Adam Holland) More Liberal Than ACT
    For the past four years I, like 500,000 other New Zealanders, have been illegally smoking cannabis for medicinal purposes and/or even just for the occasional laugh with friends on the weekend. We don't hurt anybody, we don't cause nuisance, we...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Left Coalition Will Save Dolphins
    A left coalition would safeguard both Māui and Hector’s dolphins, as well as revive our inshore ecosystems. Labour, Internet Mana and the Green Party all have strong policies in place for dolphin protection. The Maori Party, and to a certain...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Waihoroi Shortland: Ngāti Hine is not standing alone
    The Chairman of Te Rūnanga a Iwi o Ngāpuhi, Sonny Tau is blowing smoke worthy of a Dotcom rally with claims that Ngati Hine is standing alone in its opposition to Tūhoronuku says the Chairman of Te Rūnanga o Ngati...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Oceania voices on environment loud and strong
    While money and energy continues to be spent on global talks about climate change, Pacific islanders are scrambling to build sea walls out of sticks, stones, shells and coral, to protect their lands and homes from erosion and rising sea...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Prime Time with Sean Plunket – Tonight
    No MPs tonight --- the campaign will be over at 9 30. Instead we will look back --- and possibly forward on what we have learned and what might happen. Listener Political Columnist Jane Clifton Editor in Chief, NZ Herald,...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Election fails to address youth financial wellbeing
    Young people don’t feel included in New Zealand’s financial success and believe inequality is a problem, according to a new survey conducted by Westpac’s Fin-Ed Centre at Massey University....
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Winston’s Waffle doesn’t hide the facts
    The Conservative Party is celebrating the ASA's finding announced today that rejected all but one of the complaints raised against its controversial “Conservatives or Peters” pamphlet. “Despite pages of complaints from Peters legal team the only...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • NZ Independent Coalition looking forward to tomorrow
    “Our team is looking forward to tomorrow. It is a real opportunity to reclaim politics for the people,” said NZ Independent Coalition leader Brendan Horan....
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Insights Issue 35/2014 – 19 September 2014
    Insights Issue 35/2014 - 19 September 2014 In This Issue • RMA reform the golden unicorn of policy | Jenesa Jeram...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Special voting arrangements made for NIWA crew
    One of the most unusual polling stations for this year’s general election is in the middle of the ocean miles from land. NIWA’s flagship research vessel Tangaroa, has been doubling as a polling booth for crew and scientists at sea....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Tourism operators urged to vote strategically
    Tourism operators should make sure they know their local candidates’ view on tourism and use their vote to support the country’s second largest export industry, says Chris Roberts, Chief Executive, Tourism Industry Association New Zealand (TIA)....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • WGTN: March for free education
    We are students, university staff, and members of the community. Whichever parties form a government after September 20th, we are demanding an end to corporatisation of education....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Evidence of Corruption a National Scandal
    Internet Party leader Laila Harré will take evidence of corruption to international forums if there is not a full Royal Commission to investigate the growing evidence of the systematic use and abuse of democratic institutions and processes for political...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Govt continues to throw money at charter school experiment
    Official documents reveal the three primary sector charter schools approved last week will cost $2 million to set up as well as divert another $1.5 million of potential taxpayer investment from local state schools next year....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • ACT Final Election Rally
    Elections campaigns are an opportunity for political parties to put candidates and policy to enable voters to choose what sort of New Zealand we want. In this campaign there have been three tests by which you can assess the electoral...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Taxpayers on Hook Again for Solid Energy
    Responding to the Fairfax article that taxpayers are extending another $103 million to keep Solid Energy afloat, Taxpayers’ Union Executive Director Jordan Williams says:...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Invermay Petition Tops 10,000 Signatures
    People across New Zealand continue to express their disgust at the downgrading of Invermay, says Dunedin North MP David Clark, as the Save Invermay petition he instigated earlier this year topped the 10,000 signature mark just days before the 2014...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • McVicar vows to continue fight for police
    Garth McVicar stated at a public meeting last week that he would fight to retain a 24/7 Police Station in Napier and no reduction in the number of police staff for the Hawkes Bay region, some said he was simply...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Party Vote Our Weapon in Fight Against Government Corruption
    Internet MANA urges New Zealanders to use their party vote to confront corruption in any new government....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Election day is tomorrow – make sure you’re a part of it!
    Tomorrow, Saturday 20 September, is election day, and New Zealanders’ last chance to have a say on who leads the country for the next three years....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Is the Shape of our Government out of the hands of Voters?
    In the last stuff.co.nz / Ipsos Political Poll before Saturdays election, National is down 5.1% to 47.7% and Labour up 3.7% to 26.15%. These results are remarkably similar to the 2011 election where National received 47.3% of the vote and...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Spirit of Suffrage a Call to Action for All Kiwi Women
    Internet MANA is drawing on the courage and integrity of New Zealand women on Suffrage Day – Friday, September, 19 – to encourage them to pay tribute to the spirit of their foremothers who gained women the vote....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Live Election Night Coverage on TV And Online
    Māori Television’s KOWHIRI 2014 – ELECTION SPECIAL kicks off at 7.00pm this Saturday with a five-hour broadcast focusing on the Māori electorates....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Judge’s Decision Disappoints Fish & Game
    Today’s decision to give a Temuka man 100 hours of community service for selling sports fish to the public has disappointed Fish & Game, which believes the sentence handed down was “too lenient and will not go far enough to...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Cutting-Edge Graphics Fire up TV3’s Election Night Coverage
    TV3’s Election Night coverage, hosted by John Campbell, will be enhanced by cutting-edge graphics that will showcase the night’s results....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Govt rushes to open charter schools in New Year
    The government’s decision to approve four new charter schools last week to open in January next year goes against the Minister of Education’s own advice that the schools ought to have at least a year’s preparation time....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • 7 Days And Jono And Ben at Ten Hijack Election Weekend
    The 7 Days and Jono and Ben at Ten (JABAT) comedians are running their own version of election coverage, with a schedule of entertainment and comedy across TV3, Kiwi FM, the web and social media this Friday and Saturday under...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Fewer Prisoners Equals Less Crime
    In its latest blog, ‘Abolishing Parole and other Crazy Stuff’,’ at http://blog.rethinking.org.nz/2014/09/krill-and-womble-independent-policy.html , Rethinking Crime and Punishment urges government to rethink its approach to releasing prisoners. “The public expectation is that the excellent reductions in the crime...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • McVicar slams his political opponents
    I want a safe and prosperous society and that can only be achieved if we have strong and vi-brant families – McVicar...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Falling economic growth – wage rises overdue
    “The lower GDP growth in the three months to June is further evidence that growth has peaked. New Zealand’s economy is on the way down to mediocre growth rates,” says CTU economist Bill Rosenberg. “Yet wage rises are still weak...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Get Out and Vote campaign a success
    Tens of thousands of workers from all around New Zealand have embraced the Get Out and Vote campaign and have created their own personalised voting plan, the CTU said today. “With three days of voting left in the 2014 General...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Animal Research Failing – So Do More Animal Research?
    Victoria University of Wellington is about to host a lecture on why the success rates of pharmaceutical development is so low and what can be done about it. The New Zealand Anti-Vivisection Society (NZAVS) welcomes discussion on this important...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • ALCP welcomes Prime Minister’s cannabis comments
    Mr Abbott's comments came on the same day as New South Wales and Victoria states announced they would be doing clinical trials of cannabis....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
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