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NRT: A circus of self-mutilation

Written By: - Date published: 9:47 am, July 22nd, 2014 - 103 comments
Categories: accountability, election 2014, labour, Left, Politics - Tags:

no-right-turn-256Reposted from No Right Turn.

The political weekend: the Greens announce serious, sensible, and popular policy, Internet-Mana packs out another public meeting, andLabour’s self-mutilation continues:

However, Labour MPS are disgusted by Cunliffe’s skiing holiday just two months before the election and will question his work ethic at a caucus meeting on Tuesday, a senior party insider said.

Labour is trailing National by 30 percentage points, polling just 24.9 per cent in the latest Stuff-Ipsos poll.

“A lot of MPs are really f….. off about it,” the insider said.

“They are all working hard up and down the country, and f…… Cunliffe is on holiday. Guys like [Phil] Goff and [Annette] King and [David] Shearer, these guys really want it badly and they are working like their lives depend on it. And I think they are a little incredulous about what the guy is doing.”

Yes, faced with an election they’re trying to convince us they need to win or National will privatise your kidneys and sell your children to a charter school, Labour’s “senior insiders” are sabotaging their own campaign and focusing on positioning themselves for the post-loss leadership struggle. Why would anyone vote for such a clown-show? More importantly, why would anyone volunteer for them? They’re clearly not worth the time and effort.

Meanwhile, Labour hacks are talking about the need for everyone on the left to work “hard, seamlessly, together, and well” (meaning “STFU and stop criticising Labour”). But its clear which party isn’t pulling its weight here. The Greens are on track to equal or better their 2011 performance. Internet-Mana is doing so well even John Armstrong has to notice. If the left loses this election, it will be because of Labour.

103 comments on “NRT: A circus of self-mutilation”

  1. Sable 1

    Labour are not really a left leaning party anymore. Their biggest shortcoming is they are trying to be an every-man party and they are predictably failing as there have no clear message and as a result no clear consensus from voters as to why they should vote Labour. Except perhaps that they voted Labour in the past which is not necessarily a good reason to do so in the future.

    I would never once have voted for anyone else. I come from a working class background of people who helped found what became Labour in Blackball once upon a time. Now I have not idea who Labour is or what they stand for. They seem on the one hand to want to be a socialist party but on the other hand have neo liberal aspirations which are at odds.

    I think this shows when it comes time for an election. You have factionalism breaking out with core Labour politicians at odds with the “new breed” of business focused Labourites. The fact is this is a “Labour” party not a business party. Those who want neo liberalism to thrive should really leave and join National.

    Yet here we are. I personally believe Labour as a party are finished. The Greens are professional, have good policy and are forward thinking. This is why I defected. Well to be honest I walked away from Labour back in mid 80’s when Lange’s government in my opinion betrayed everything Labour stood and moved over to the Alliance. I feel little has changed since.

    Labour will loose this election and with it they will loose any remaining credibility. I suspect in years to come the Greens will take their place and they will become a minor presence on the NZ political landscape.

    • swordfish 1.1

      Good old Blackball !!!

      Despite rose-tinted mythology to the contrary, Labour didn’t do particularly well in most West Coast mining towns until after the Great Depression. But there were 3 or 4 mining strongholds where Labour (and before it, the SDP) did indeed do spectacularly well right from the start – and Blackball was pre-eminent amongst them. The Left were winning Blackball overwhelmingly from WWI on.

      (slightly off-topic, I know. But I simply could nae resist a little stroll down memory-lane. Always good to remember the Lefties that came before us).

      • DS 1.1.1

        Labour won Buller from 1919 onwards. The other electorate (Westland) was held by Richard Seddon’s son for the Liberals into the 1920s. King Dick ran a pub on the Coast, remember, and people remembered him fondly.

        • swordfish 1.1.1.1

          True, DS.

          Although, if I was being pedantic, I’d say one of Labour’s precursor parties (the SDP – and, specifically, Paddy Webb) actually won the Grey seat in a pre-WWI By-Election, retained the seat at the 1914 General Election, and then (after Webb was jailed for refusing military service) soon-to-be Labour Party leader, Harry Holland won it for Labour in a 1918 By-Election and then took Buller in 1919, holding it until his death. (for quite a while, there were 3 seats on the West Coast, Buller in the north, Grey in the centre, and Westland in the south).

          Historically, there’s been a North-South divide to political loyalties on the West Coast. If you take the major towns, for instance, the most northern – Westport was always (at least from the Great Depression) overwhelmingly Labour (and it’s still the most Left-friendly of the Coast’s larger towns), Reefton (second most northerly) was usually strongly-but-not-overwhelmingly Labour, Greymouth’s usual colour was orange rather than red (ie marginal-to-moderately-strong Labour) and the most southern of the bigger towns, Hokitika, was usually the mirror image of Greymouth (marginal National). So not entirely surprising that Westland (Hokitika + the mainly rural southern two-thirds of Westland) remained out of Labour’s grasp for quite some time. If I remember rightly, though, it was usually a pretty closely fought contest in Westland. The secondary town of Ross was always Labour-leaning.

          But what struck me when I was analysing the booth-by-booth stats back in the 90s was that, despite the general assumption of historians that the mining towns were staunchly left-leaning/Socialist from the start, it was much more complex than that. The SDP and then Labour tended to do pretty well in some of the smaller mining towns, but were not particularly strong in the larger ones until the Great Depression caused a bit of a ideological upheaval. Blackball was one of a small group of towns that comprised a Left bastion pretty much from the start.

    • greywarbler 1.2

      @Sable
      I hope your prognosis is as incorrect as your spelling is loose.

    • Draco T Bastard 1.3

      Their biggest shortcoming is they are trying to be an every-man party and they are predictably failing as there have no clear message and as a result no clear consensus from voters as to why they should vote Labour.

      It’s not so much that they’re trying to be an every man party but that they’re still kowtowing to the rich while trying to be an every man party. They’re saying Yes, we’re going to change everything while keeping it the same for these select few just doesn’t work and comes across as being totally false.

    • David H 1.4

      Nice essay, but you really need to know the difference between LOSE and Loose. Clue: one of them means your pants are falling down.

      http://www.ross.net/notes/loose.shtml

      This is worse than the Moron/Moran debacle.

    • Murray Olsen 1.5

      I broadly agree with your analysis of the present Labour Party, but I think it will be Greens and Mana together who will take over from them. Mana have inherited the old radical social democratic values that Labour used to hold, while the Greens will be strong as a response to a different world view which we must develop. I think Mana and Greens are complementary in many ways.

      If the election is lost, it will be due to the pseudo-ACT MPs in Labour and the inability of the left wing to counter them. However, I hope we will win. I just hope we don’t have to depend on Winston First. I’d hate that :-(

  2. greywarbler 2

    This is today’s heading in Radionz News.

    Labour leader David Cunliffe plans a comeback ( 7′ 35″ )

    07:36 The Labour Leader David Cunliffe insists he is leading a united team and says he has no plans to hunt down the person who sparked headlines by criticising his three-day skiing holiday last week.

    If I found who spoke to a ‘source’ that person’s nose would be like tomato sauce. Violence is justified occasionally with adults. And it is all some understand. It can be more efficacious than words of sorrow and instruction or appealing to the person’s better nature. Which supposes they have one.

    Or perhaps a split lip would be more appropriate.

    • Pete 2.1

      Violence is justified occasionally with adults

      Unless you’re defending yourself or someone else from immediate physical harm (and I don’t mean the economic and social harm of a right-wing government), I’m going to have to disagree with you there. Use your words.

      • greywarbler 2.1.1

        @Pete
        I am defending myself and a lot of others too when I suggest a bloody nose. Perhaps I’ll get Trevor Mallard to carry out the punishment, though self flagellation it may be.

    • Richard McGrath 2.2

      “I walked away from Labour back in mid 80′s when Lange’s government in my opinion betrayed everything Labour stood and moved over to the Alliance. I feel little has changed since.”

      Sable, I’m curious as to why you would shift away from the Alliance – they are still a registered political party here. They haven’t deviated from their far left socialism, and I thought they would have lots of fans from the readership of this group.

      I agree with you that Labour are finished… Cunliffe never had the testicular fortitude to dump all free market policies, cannabilise Alliance policies and distance Labour from National.

    • Richard McGrath 2.3

      Violence against others, or the desire to inflict it, has always been an integral part of leftist activism. I’m sure there are non-violent ways of settling the situation you describe, such as enforcing a contract and expelling the person concerned from the party. You don’t have to resort to thuggery.

      • felix 2.3.1

        “Violence against others, or the desire to inflict it, has always been an integral part of leftist activism. “

        In the entire history of left vs right protest/industrial action in NZ, how many have been killed by those on the left?

        • Richard McGrath 2.3.1.1

          I have no idea, I haven’t been keeping a tally. Perhaps someone here might have that information. There has been a lot of less serious injury and property damage caused by protestors over the years.

          • felix 2.3.1.1.1

            The answer is none.

            And by those on the right?

            • Colonial Viper 2.3.1.1.1.1

              Thank you Felix. The global neoliberal movement which have caused untold numbers of deaths. Fuckers.

              • Richard McGrath

                As opposed to global communism which only killed between 85 and 100 million during the 20th century. Fuckers.

                • Colonial Viper

                  Compared to corporate capitalism, which is going to ecologically destroy the planet.

                  By the way, please account for your 85M figure.

                  • Richard McGrath

                    65 million in Red China
                    20 million in the USSR
                    2 million in Cambodia
                    2 million in North Korea
                    1.7 million in Africa
                    1.5 million in Afghanistan
                    1 million in Eastern Europe
                    1 million in Vietnam
                    150,000 in Latin America

                    • Richard McGrath

                      VTO’s response to the itemised list of deaths directly attributable to communist governments: “lol”.

                      Says it all, really.

                    • Harry

                      Richard – good point – conservative estimates there. For your trouble you get personal attacks from those who care about humanity so much that they can’t admit that communists ever did anything bad.

                      Forward comrades! To the gulag!

          • vto 2.3.1.1.2

            What? You have no idea? But you just claimed that the left does that violent shit – then immediately declare that you have no idea……

            no idea

            The left has killed nobody in NZ in its activism.

            The right has killed Mr Abbot in Wellington in 1982, a Mr Evans was killed by the right in Waihi in I think 1912, and another has also been killed by the right in industrial action.

            You may also want to check out various right wing attack mobs and vigilantes http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJj3Kx1eCO8

            It is the right wing that is violent.

            Go learn some basics you great useless ignoramus. Your type is dangerous in its ignorance

            • Richard McGrath 2.3.1.1.2.1

              Gosh you lot are pleasant people. VTO, it is perfectly valid for me to claim that those on the left use thuggery, without knowing precisely how many people were killed by them. Thuggery and murder are different degrees of violence. Even if the number murdered by leftists in New Zealand was zero, that doesn’t equate to them being non violent.

    • Murray Olsen 2.4

      I am not a pacifist and I can sympathise with your lust for tomato sauce, even though I try to use words these days. Possibly mainly due to illness, I’ve been successful for about 8 years.

      Cunliffe should make sure that the idiot, if they are in Labour, is shamed and expelled. By not doing this, he’s not doing any of us any favours.

  3. Tiger Mountain 3

    Now is the time to ‘snatch victory from the jaws of defeat’ as the saying goes. All efforts should be put into mobilising a “change the government” voter turnout.

    The agonising over and flaying of Labour can surely wait a few more weeks, the torys are certainly doing a decent enough hatchet job without left energy going there too. If the Internet Mana roll and the Greens mini tsunami like quiet achiever performance plus what Labour can pull out of the bag during the campaign does deliver then a different type of struggle just begins. But in a way better political climate than relentless tory attacks.

    • Re Labour;
    Lets be clear. Labour is a class collaborationist third way social democratic party, but still supported by many working class and middle class people.
    –Many firm lefties departed Labour long ago and the new leader ranks are predominately managerialists which makes things like party democracy that are so obvious to some of us a difficult concept to them.
    –Super at 67–a sure vote loser, blank out the bennies ditto. Dumping the Reserve Bank Act–not on your…
    This will not change before September 3–20 so lets get on with doing the best we can in whatever party or part of the community you operate in. If Labour can’t sit on the zoo that is the left over Rogernomes we are all going to suffer. So I am both critical of and supportive of Labour in this election as part of the needed left bloc.

  4. Mike Smith 4

    Speaking of witless fools, what’s the point of keeping these stories running?

    • Tom Gould 4.1

      Because blaming everyone else for their own spectacular failure is all the real ‘witless fools’ can do, perhaps?

    • ghostwhowalksnz 4.2

      You are totally right. The original report referred to ‘party insider’, which is weak attribution. Even DPF says he been called a party insider. So we could have had someone who writes on blogs having a bitch about something. Think about it, the journalist has space to fill with their name on it.
      National doesnt get these stories because they have a full time cohort looking into and giving this sort of background info to journalists

    • McFlock 4.3

      good for mana and the greens.

      Benefits to the left as a whole are therefore debatable one way or t’other, I guess. Shame for folk to regurgitate tory propaganda, though – leaves a bit of a foul aftertaste.

      • Sacha 4.3.1

        How is Labour repeatedly putting its foot in its mouth helping any party on the left? Unless they’d rather be in opposition for another 3 years.

        • McFlock 4.3.1.1

          I read the question as being “what’s the point of no right turn recycling tory beatups about alleged discontent within the Labour party?”

          • Sacha 4.3.1.1.1

            Because some of us have been hoping they’d listen, so we can get a functioning left government. And look:

            http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/10294305/Cunliffe-The-fightback-begins-now

            “Cunliffe said this afternoon’s caucus meeting, postponed to allow him to get back from delivering a speech in Nelson, would have some “earnest conversations about how we can do better”.

            “I am sure that the caucus will be as determined as I am that we stick to our knitting and to our core messages about jobs, homes and families, and avoid distractions,” Cunliffe said.”

    • deep throat 4.4

      Exactly Mike Smith.
      something has happened here.
      and I mean here on the Standard.
      Instead of being a vehicle for the party this blog is turning into a blab fest for anybody who is agaisnt the party and furthermore the editors who say they support the party are letting the creeps get away with it.
      How can we win an election if the creeps are allowed free access to run riot with their opinions and vitriol.
      The editors here better wake up.

      • fender 4.4.1

        Oh dear, you may be new around here and although it’s not my place to tell you, you better read the about and the policy

        If you don’t get a tune up from Lprent, count yourself lucky.

      • mickysavage 4.4.2

        The Standard has always had an open policy on debate. Keep it to the point and obey the rules and robust discussion is allowed. I don’t see any breach of those rules here.

        FWIW I did not put this post up. We often use IS’s posts so it is no surprise here. I agree with Mike that we should be discussing important issues such as what is wrong with the country and what we can do to fix it up.

        • The Fan Club 4.4.2.1

          And just last night you were reassuring me that we were all about happy winning election stuff, and here’s another story run specifically to rark up the readership here about how much we hate those evuullll ABCs, and look, there’s people threatening to bludgeon Labour MPs in the face up there.

          Is it Annette King who’s going to have “a nose like tomato sauce”? Or maybe it’ll be Clare Curran who gets the bash? Or shall we batter Chris Hipkins until he’s gushing blood? You choose, based on whatever prejudices you have available.

          You know exactly what running these stories will do, you know exactly the response they’ll get, and still you run them, all so that if Cunliffe leads the party to the worst defeat ever this election he can still cling on to the leadership in a death grip. It’s disgusting.

          [Did you read my comment where I said I did not put this post up? It was not my choice and I would have preferred something less inflamatory. The Standard is a large collective with different writers. One of the others put it up. To be frank I do wish the misbehaviour by some MPs/candidates would stop. Someone is leaking like crazy and if they are within the party then they need to be dealt to, within the rules of course. Comment held for now because you appear to be trying to start a flame war - MS]

          [lprent: I put the post up. It needed to be said because there is some fuckwit dickhead(s) around inside Labour and they are causing some real damage to the left. Some fools are letting their personal ambition to get the better of their common sense in my opinion. This site is here to express opinions on the left. Clearly you don't respect that. I guess you don't like it. So live with that.

          Fuck off and be a dumb wanker elsewhere. You are banned until september 21st. ]

      • swordfish 4.4.3

        You seem to be playing the role here of some sort of deeply loyal long-time Labour Party activist, DT. But wasn’t it just yesterday that you informed us all you “…used to vote national but after they said they would give colin craig a membership deal I will not vote for them anymore>” ?

        Here…http://thestandard.org.nz/herald-says-weird-things-about-cunliffe-and-labour-clutha-southland-candidate/#comment-852666

        In other words, National right up until recent weeks ?

        So why all this sudden fierce loyalty to “The Party” ? And why this sudden concern that “the real party people are leaving in droves because they are disgusted with the tone that has crept in here” ?

    • Blue 4.5

      what’s the point of keeping these stories running?

      The point is akin to holding a blowtorch to the privates of the fucking idiots who can’t keep their mouths shut.

      I can understand the desire to sweep it all under the carpet, I really can. But then I see headlines like this and it just brings all the anger to the surface again.

      David Cunliffe, a father of two young children and a man leading a party that believes in allowing people to have time with their children is slammed for taking a three day holiday with them knowing that he won’t see much of them for the next two months. And he is forced to apologise because some fuckwit thinks he’s lazy for taking three days. This fuckwit further thinks that the ‘damage’ done by David’s three day holiday miraculously outweighs the damage done by said fuckwit criticising their leader in public and making Labour look like a divided mess destined for disaster, again.

      We had been doing so well – the leaks had stopped, Labour was presenting a reasonably united front in public, there had been some good policy and speeches coming out and then BAM, it’s back to ‘geez, what a fucking mess Labour are, they can’t even run their own party, let alone a country’.

      Infighting is the kiss of death at the ballot box. See what happened to Australian Labor for reference. Voters cannot abide disunity and they will vote for pretty much anything (see Tony Abbott) over a divided party where MPs spend all their time fighting with each other.

      The absolute fucking imbecile who blabbed to the media has done more damage in one day than all of the other distractions combined. It doesn’t seem to matter how often and how loud we shout it – the message to SHUT THE FUCK UP doesn’t seem to get through the thick skulls in caucus.

      There had better not be a repeat of this incident.

  5. Michael 5

    Better luck next time then?

  6. deep throat 6

    the proprietors of the Standard brand are letting creeps walk in here and shit all over the floor and the real party people are leaving in droves because they are disgusted with the tone that has crept in here and the barbed threats.
    The original standard people would not have stood still for a minute for this sort of nonsense.

    [lprent: Actually you can't get any more original than me. I installed the wordpress, and registered the domain name. ]

    • just saying 6.1

      the barbed threats.

      People say what they like within the constraints of the stated rules, and the unstated – not bullying, unduly abusing, or intimidating others.

      If you feel you or someone else in being threatened, you need to be more explicit. But if it is dissent that you are worried about…. well, a left-wing blog is probably a worrying place.

      • deep throat 6.1.1

        I’m just saying that I agree with dissent %100 percent.
        as for the barbed threats and who made them then I will save that for later when they are needed.
        If you cant be bothered to keep up with the play then thats your problem.
        keep talking.
        as for NRT there was no “senior labour MP”.
        all that was a barefaced lie supplied to the press and picked up with glee with no attribution.
        that is the KEY to this election.
        Who is making up the lies and who is telling them.
        if you keep going after them one by one then all energy will be dissipated in a pointless and unwinnable activity.
        Not just one lie like the Zinoviev letter but an unending succession of them wholesale that are being retailed for full priced for buying special shoot yourself in the foot bullets.

        • Colonial Viper 6.1.1.1

          I’m just saying that I agree with dissent %100 percent.

          Don’t really sound like you are loving it in practice.

    • David H 6.2

      So what DT we just let you Right wing Trolls just come in here and shit everywhere?

      If you want to shit everywhere just piss off back to whaleslime and TricKeys Fantasy site. (God that just sounds UGGGGgggggg)

      • Te Reo Putake 6.2.1

        I don’t think DT is a right winger, David. His comment history is quite consistently left.

  7. emergency mike 7

    On the front page of TS this post references “the witless fool “senior” MP in Labour”, but the stuff article is quoting a “senior party insider”, which might not be, and probably isn’t a MP I’m guessing.

    I’ve heard Richard Prebble presented as a ‘Labour insider’ ffs.

    • lprent 7.1

      On the front page of TS this post references “the witless fool “senior” MP in Labour”, but the stuff article is quoting a “senior party insider”, which might not be, and probably isn’t a MP I’m guessing.

      The actual bit that points to the “senior party insider” (as it was in the original article (which has now been extensively amended)) in the SST being a MP is:-

      We will be having a talk to David at caucus about his work ethic on Tuesday.”

      The problem for your thesis is that is quite a specific statement. The people in a caucus meeting are the MPs, the party secretary, and often the party president. I don’t think it would have been Tim Barnett or Moira Coatsworth leaking that kind of destabilising crap to a reporter.

      So either the reporter (Steve Kilgallon) was simply making crap up (ie lying) in one of more parts of his article before Simon Day got into it, or someone was stirring shit up inside caucus in exactly the same manner as happened in 2012 – which ultimately was the reason why this story was believable.

      If it was the former case, then Steve Kilgallon has now entered my shit list as a outright liar and unworthy of being a journalist..

      It it was the latter case, then from the quotes it would appear that the unnamed source was trying to destabilize the result of this election for the left to get some kind of positioning advantage post-election. If I ever find out who that was, I will be making a formal request to boot them out of Labour.

      In any case I’m really pissed off with the caucus for having played the types of past antics that made this story believable.

      I really don’t care either way

  8. I’m not a fan of NRT’s depressing tendency to label anyone and everyone he can as a “Labour hack” rather than engage with their actual arguments. This now probably extends to every Labour Party volunteer who chooses to continue working hard in the election campaign because they believe in it.

    • No, I’d call those people “suckers”. But if they want to work for a party organisation which seems intent on undermining their efforts, that’s their problem.

      • One numpty-saboteur =/= the entire party organisation.

        • Colonial Viper 8.1.1.1

          It takes but one saboteur to open the city gates and lose the entire war.

          • Richard McGrath 8.1.1.1.1

            … or to lance the festering boil and squeeze out the fetid cheesy contents.

          • Stephanie Rodgers 8.1.1.1.2

            Yes, but the point is that one saboteur’s actions are not reflective of total systemic failure.

            I/S would probably argue that there’s been total systemic failure as well, but one is still not proof of the other.

            • Colonial Viper 8.1.1.1.2.1

              Yes, but the point is that one saboteur’s actions are not reflective of total systemic failure.

              I think you are taking a somewhat optimistic view of this. This type of sabotage behaviour doesn’t usually occur in isolation from a permissive/provocative organisational context and culture. And as lprent has pointed out, this most recent sabotage behaviour looks more like a continuing pattern rather than a one off.

              I agree with you in that it may not point to a “total systemic failure” per se, but it does suggest that serious re-engineering and democratisation within the Labour Party has to continue.

      • lprent 8.1.2

        But if they want to work for a party organisation which seems intent on undermining their efforts, that’s their problem.

        I have no particular problem with putting up your post. It made a useful point. However this statement demands a rejoinder.

        I guess that never working for any party in particular in a campaign (as far as I can see) makes you an expert on the subject? It must be like never being disappointed in a relationship by never having any?

        What it points to is some fool(s) being more concerned about their own objectives and less concerned (as you pointed out) with those of either the party or of cause of the left in general.

        Basically egotist fools are pretty common in all political organisations, left, right or in any other axes you care to name.

    • Anne 8.2

      I think Jenny Kirk has put it in a nut-shell.

      Herald 22nd July- Letter to the Editor.

      Labour grizzlers

      I am fed up with cowardly Labour MPs grizzling anonymously about David Cunliffe’s performance.

      These MPs need to front up and show themselves as brave enough to withstand the barrage of protest that will come their way when volunteer Labour supporters – all working their guts out for the party’s election campaign – find out who they are.

      I could take an educated guess who they are. But they really should show themselves to be men and not wimps by hiding behind the anonymity of “Labour spokesperson”.

      Jenny Kirk
      Former Labour MP.

      Well said Jenny.

      While the reporter’s source may not have been a parliamentarian, he was acting at the behest of a small group of ABCers. They have used a black ops. campaign – run in the first instance by Jason Ede and Cameron Slater – to further undermine David and regain their control of caucus. They have to go!

      • Richard McGrath 8.2.1

        Well said, Jenny. These Labour Party ABCers need to crawl out from under their rock and get on with the business of rolling Cunliffe… if they want Labour to stop its slide toward oblivion.

  9. Sacha 9

    “talking about the need for everyone on the left to work “hard, seamlessly, together, and well” ” – at least one party offered Labour such an arrangement and was rebuffed. Top strategy, chaps.

  10. deep throat 10

    you guys just aren’t up with it.
    haven’t you been reading the posts?
    the favourite ploy of the righties that lurk is the old I used to vote labour but now I dont because ….fill in the gaps.
    if you dont recognise irony then you are stunted persons.
    as far as being committed to the party I am totally committed but I dont see this interweb pseudo objectivity being allowed to descend into turning a blind eye to reality.
    see sometimes this place feels like a hobby project for middle class labour party would be intellectuals/media barons and you guys have to wake your ideas up.
    and I gave you the details on the contact us email but you dont seem to have read it.

    • emergency mike 10.1

      That sure is lot of concern you’ve got there.

    • Te Reo Putake 10.2

      Well, I’d have to say there’s a lot here who do get irony, dt, but if your comments are in written in a way that gives no clue that irony is intended then the mistake is not the reader’s. And of course, your line about “I used to vote …” isn’t irony, anyway, it’s parody. But, no matter.

      Try using things like fullstops, commas and quotation marks, or even smileys, so that we can know which bits are the ironical and which bits are the serious. We already have one stream of unconsciousness practitioner here busily dumbing …. down the language …

      in a way …

      that’s completely ….

      un …. reada … ble….

      (see what I did there?)

      • swordfish 10.2.1

        chrs 4 that there…trp…

        i…dunno…..d’ya reckon ?…..

        me ?……i’ve …grown…….

        accustomed… 2…

        phil…..ure’s…….

        um…..er…..creative….tendencies…..eh ..?

        he has some…ur…bits n bobs that r…ok…

        ..in his…y’know…stream of…whatsits…….

        he cd be a…poster child…

        ..for a vegan diet…I reckon…eh…?

        or…at least…he wd b a …potential customer 4……

        …an ethical…cruelty-free….

        ..meat-less…diet…then….eh…?

        …so…there ya go…!

        …but wait…!…there’s more…!

        • greywarbler 10.2.1.1

          @ swordfish 3.59
          The pen is even mightier when the swordfish has it.

      • deep throat 10.2.2

        trp.
        another one that wants to tell everyone else what to do.
        you know what I am saying so dont fudge it.
        or are you just another troll?

    • David H 10.3

      Oh DeepThroat why don’t you go back to your NAT bosses and live up to your name. Sucker!!

      • deep throat 10.3.1

        Oh stop making up lies dh.
        you just another obfuscator who cant read or comprehend anything above dat, dere, dem and dese.

        • greywarbler 10.3.1.1

          @deep throat 6.38
          What a waste of a good intellect – bang. Don’t be so touchy. You could be easier to read you know, which would be clearer for everyone else. You seem to be saying something interesting, even important, but well one can’t be sure.

          We actually don’t want to kill the bouzouki player. If I’m being too obscure I’ll explain.

  11. TeWhareWhero 11

    ‘Guys like ….Annette King …’ certainly indicates someone whose thought processes owe a bit more to his amygdala than his prefrontal cortex.

  12. ianmac 12

    This time I think No Right Turn is so wrong to promote the “self-mutilation” myth.
    It is based on what exactly? A covert mystery one person?
    Gavin Ellis on 9 to Noon gives a rousing condemnation of journalist who published without verification.
    1 How much does the source know?
    2. Does the source have a motive?
    3. Can it be verified by more than one source? Triangulate.
    Gavin reckons this item failed at all levels.
    I think NRT has also failed in this case.
    http://www.radionz.co.nz/audio/player/20142606

    • wtl 12.1

      IS at NRT has pretty much decided “everything Labour does is wrong”, it’s blatantly obvious from his recent posts. I agree that some of his posts on Labour are pretty irrational, as you’ve pointed out, but if he wants to keep being a “sucker” and falling for media spin, that’s his problem.

      • One Anonymous Bloke 12.1.1

        Pundit to pull head in, predicts partisan patron.

        Don’t be captured by media spin, accept that the left is many people with many voices and the worst possible political philosophy apart from all the other ones.

    • deep throat 12.2

      Of course it failed on all points yet it gets repeated here as gospel.
      have the editors here gone mad or are they just derelict in their duties.

    • mickysavage 12.3

      Ellis was very good. And it makes you wonder if we are getting played …

    • lprent 12.4

      Problem is that this article fits into a pattern of behaviour far too well. It is exactly the same kind of dumbarse whisper campaign from inside Labour that we have seen far too often already. I’m quite tired of it. I was tired of it at the end of 2012. I’m completely intolerant about it now.

      If Labour want to stop these anonymous leak stories then they have to do one of two things. Metaphorically stake out and burn the source(s) inside Labour or stake out the dickhead reporters making up stories and burn them. I really don’t care which.

      Even if this particular case was a dickhead reporter (which I have my doubts on), the problem was that it is a believable pattern of behaviour.

      In the meantime if I see similar stories coming out or “senior” Labour sources. I’m going to be getting blunter about the need to roast the Labour caucus and the entire Labour establishment.

      Their job is to not allow dipshits like Hipkins did in 2012 to add fuel for future flames for ‘jonolists’ years later.

      • Sacha 12.4.1

        “the problem was that it is a believable pattern of behaviour” – exactly. Everyone deserves better than this by now, surely. Lance the boil/s. Get on with winning an election.

      • john 12.4.2

        You problem is more fundamental than the leakers – it’s that you have a leader that most of the public and some MPs don’t back.

        I talked to a taxi driver yesterday who considered himself a lifetime labourite, but said he couldn’t vote for David Cunliffe.

        Like Goff and Shearer (and English), Cunliffe is probably a very capable and effective MP, but he’s simply not a leader that people will back – not many are.

        Once you find the right person, things can change quickly. Even Brash got over twice the votes and twice the percentage that National got under Bill English. And he wasn’t exactly inspiring.

        • Sacha 12.4.2.1

          “Once you find the right person, things can change quickly” – as head of strategy and communications, yes.

  13. john 13

    Most people I know didn’t see anything wrong with Cunliffe taking three days off with his children – it was a bit of a non-story.

    What is it with the trend of apologising when you haven’t done anything wrong? Key is now supposed to apologise despite having nothing to do with the Malaysian diplomat getting away.

    What could possibly do more damage for Cunliffe, is that he has now apologized for taking a very small and much needed break. It looks pretty wishy-washy and not very leader-like.

    He needs his own moral compass and to stop blowing with the wind and saying whatever he thinks people want to hear.

    • Colonial Viper 13.1

      What is it with the trend of apologising when you haven’t done anything wrong? Key is now supposed to apologise despite having nothing to do with the Malaysian diplomat getting away.

      Key’s responsibility is having not brought McCully and McCully’s performance into line, as well as doing sweet F.A. to help. That’s what Key wears as his responsibility and his fuck up to apologise for.

      And just from a general sense of humanity (hard for a sociopath I know) whose government has badly let down a young woman through BS at the state/diplomatic level.

      • vto 13.1.1

        I think he should apologise simply because the organisation he leads, the government, fucked up a serious alleged assault case on a young woman.

        Pretty bloody simple. Out here in the real world if something our organisation does had that sort of result we would immediately be on the phone trying to put things right and apologising for the damage caused.

        Problem is John Key.

        not sure what
        world he lives in
        he’s a bit weird really

        and dangerous

  14. anker 14

    John @13……..except it was written by Claire Trevitt……….I don’t believe a word she says……..

  15. Pissed off Leftie 15

    So as it looks increasingly unlikely that the Labour Party is not going to get its shit together,
    Please please do not elect Grant Fucking Robertson as leader in October

    • Kiwiri 15.1

      Grant would be too shrewd to go into the leader’s seat so quickly. Arrangements will see Parker in to hold the seat for a bit. And then, part way through an increasingly very unpopular third term National Party, Grant will declare his hand to be carried by the victorious red tide of 2017. The more the membership and broad support peals away from the Party, the better that would work out for the Parker-Grant plan.

      At the rate the rubbish of the past few weeks carry on, it would not be surprising if a shadow of doubt about Cunliffe is starting to creep upon the staunchest of Cunliffe’s supporters. Cunliffe needs to awaken his instincts and reactivate his wider source of advice and support if he wants to win for 20 Sep 2014.

  16. Foreign Waka 16

    How very sad the whole saga is. Mr Cunliffe, a great mind and very intelligent is, and never will be able to withstand the lowlifes that run the campaign of late. Young people will watch, laugh their heads off and see it for what it is. Politics driven by politics for the sake of politics and no one gives a damn about the people who loose their jobs, struggle to keep food on the table, if they have a table at all. Indeed it looks like that some want to loose the election on purpose. I wish Mr Cunliffe the best but I think he hasn’t got a show in hell, better to use the talent somewhere where it actually is wanted and needed. Sad for NZ, sad for the people who are part of the party and really try and work hard. But better to walk away, the rot has bitten too deep.

  17. Doughty 17

    For a Left/Labour orientated website most (not all) of you seem to have fallen for the rights smear campaign.
    Most of what is put out in the news are/is just a hatchet jobs on labour and it appears to be working when the party faithful begin to believe the lies. The main stream news is bias, the political reporting is bias, the polls are slanted, there is a massive amount of NLP in news articles, and a hell of a lot of manipulative Delphi technique going on, and now of course divide and rule. I’m voting Labour TWO ticks Come hell or high water, stay the course people for fuck sake.

    PS: the spelling and grammar Nazi’s, grow up there are more important issues atm

    • lprent 17.1

      I/S at No Right Turn isn’t a Labour person and doesn’t look like he ever has been. I announced my intention to party vote Green back in 2012 for exactly this type of “smear campaign” which was done by people inside Labour – in that case from a manufactured ‘coup’ that didn’t exist by people such as the whip and the leader at the time. My trust of the caucus was diminished as a direct result.

      This looks horribly familiar. As far as I am concerned as a long-time decades long Labour supporter, a party that does that type of crap to itself needs a good solid purge in its caucus. The problem with this “smear” is that it is entirely plausible to have come from inside Labour. I’m sick and tired of it.

    • Sacha 17.2

      “For a Left/Labour orientated website most (not all) of you seem to have fallen for the rights smear campaign.”

      No, some silly folk inside the tent have fallen for the FPP-style media coverage of polls, etc and are not believing their side can win. Voters tend to punish lack of confidence so it’s wastefully self-fulfilling behaviour if not promptly and decisively corrected.

      • Colonial Viper 17.2.1

        Voters tend to punish lack of confidence so it’s wastefully self-fulfilling behaviour if not promptly and decisively corrected.

        And the confidence and self-assuredness of the Labour Leader is absolutely critical, in this regard.

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    Mana | 09-09
  • Housing in Waiariki – Sykes
    Fact:  Under this National-Maori Party-ACT-United Future Government 61% of Maori in Waiariki do not own their own home and nearly 70% of Maori rentals in Waiariki pay $200 or more per week. “Maori in Waiariki have low rates of home ownership...
    Mana | 09-09
  • Charter school crisis shows time to axe costly experiment
    Dysfunction from day one at a Northland charter school shows it is time to dump this costly and failed experiment by the National-ACT Government, Labour’s Education spokesperson Chris Hipkins says. “Te Kura Hourua ki Whangaruru received $27,000 in government funding...
    Labour | 08-09
  • Labour will crack down on loan sharks
    A Labour Government will crack down on predatory loan sharks by making it illegal both to charge exorbitant interest rates and to exploit uninformed borrowers, Labour’s Consumer Affairs Spokesperson Carol Beaumont says. Labour today released its Consumer Affairs policy which...
    Labour | 08-09
  • Let’s do the FEED before the weed
    “Last week I put out a very strongly worded email to my colleagues about an online promotion about cannabis law reform” said MANA leader and Tai Tokerau MP, Hone Harawira “and I stand by that criticism today.” My concern was...
    Mana | 08-09
  • TE KAEA and NATIVE AFFAIRS live to fight another day
    “I understand that both the chair of the Board of Maori Television, Georgina Te Heuheu, and new CEO, Paora Maxwell, are now saying that my comments this morning about their plans to cut Te Kaea and Native Affairs, were wrong, and that...
    Mana | 08-09
  • How come the PM only pays 2.8% of his income in tax – Harawira
    “Before John Key talks about the piddling tax cuts he plans for low and middle income families today he needs to explain why he only pays 2.8% of his income on tax while a minimum wage worker pays 28% tax,”...
    Mana | 07-09
  • THE DEATH OF INDEPENDENCE FOR MAORI TV
    “If what I’m hearing is true, tomorrow Maori Television Service (MTS) will dump its news programme, Te Kaea, and staff will lose their jobs” said MANA Leader and MP for Te Tai Tokerau, Hone Harawira “and the Minister of Maori...
    Mana | 07-09
  • Labour recommits to Pike River families
    An incoming Labour-led government will do everything possible to recover the bodies of the Pike River Miners and return them to their families, says Labour Leader David Cunliffe. “This tragedy and its aftermath has left the families of the 29...
    Labour | 06-09
  • Voting has started and still no tax plan or fiscal budget for voters to see
    "Even though voting for the election has already begun, National still refuses to provide any details of its proposed tax cuts. And Bill English admitted this morning that he won’t provide any specifics until after the election", Labour’s Finance spokesperson...
    Labour | 06-09
  • National’s partners’ tax plans cost at least $42 billion
    If National forms the next government its partners’ tax plans will cost the country at least $42 billion, and maybe as much as $50 billion, wreaking havoc with the books, says Labour’s Finance spokesperson David Parker. “National claims to be...
    Labour | 05-09
  • Labour: Providing more opportunities for young Kiwis
    A Labour Government will ensure every young Kiwi under the age of 20 is given the opportunity to be in work, education or training, and plans to develop a conservation apprenticeship scheme to help do that, Labour’s Youth Affairs spokesperson...
    Labour | 04-09
  • Candles out on teachers’ slice of birthday cake
    Today may be Novopay’s second birthday, but there’s little to celebrate, Labour’s Education spokesperson Chris Hipkins says. “Novopay has cost the taxpayer tens of millions of dollars already, and the cost is still climbing....
    Labour | 04-09
  • National’s blatant broadband pork barrelling misses the mark by a country...
    National’s blatant pork-barrelling ICT announcement today should reinforce a growing sceptical electorate’s view that they are all about the gift wrap and not the present, Labour’s ICT spokesperson Clare Curran says. “Instead of addressing the real issues - the woeful...
    Labour | 04-09
  • More evidence of the need to clean up the system
    The latest release of emails and messages between disgraced Minister Judith Collins and blogger Cameron Slater are more evidence of the urgent need to clean up politics, Labour MP Grant Robertson says. "This new evidence confirms a near constant flow...
    Labour | 04-09
  • Labour commits to stable funding for voluntary sector
    A Labour Government will establish long-term funding and streamline contract accountability for community and voluntary groups, says Labour’s spokesperson for the sector Louisa Wall. Announcing Labour’s policy for the community and voluntary sector, she said this would give much greater...
    Labour | 04-09
  • Better trained and skilled workforce under Labour
    Labour is committed to a skilled workforce that benefits businesses as well as their workers, and will increase workplace training to improve productivity and drive innovation, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. “Labour believes the Government should support New Zealanders into...
    Labour | 03-09
  • Labour will make renting a better option
    Labour will provide greater security of tenure for renters, and build more state and social housing, says Labour’s housing spokesperson Phil Twyford. “Labour believes every kid deserves a decent start in life. That means a warm, dry and secure home....
    Labour | 03-09
  • At least 15 new taxes under National
    John Key is the last person to talk about creating taxes, presiding over a Government that has imposed at least 15 new taxes, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. “John Key tried a novel line in the debate last night claiming...
    Labour | 03-09
  • Labour will strengthen New Zealand’s democracy
    A Labour Government will act quickly to protect and enhance New Zealand’s reputation as one of the most open and least corrupt countries in the world, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. “The health of any democracy is improved by greater...
    Labour | 02-09
  • MANA Movement says tax cut on GST must be first priority – Minto
    “If Prime Minister John Key has money available for tax cuts then cutting GST must be the first priority”,  said MANA Movement Economic Justice Spokesperson John Minto. GST is a nasty tax on low-income families”, said Minto. “People in the...
    Mana | 02-09
  • The Maori Party’s Mana-Enhancing Relationship with National – Minto
    “First we had Cameron Slater and David Farrar backing Labour’s Kelvin Davis bid to unseat MANA Movement Leader and MP for Te Tai Tokerau Hone Harawira.  Now we have Slater writing a pro-Te Ururoa Flavell article on his website, Whale...
    Mana | 02-09
  • There’s Only One Poll That Counts
    “One of the oldest sayings in politics is that there is only one poll that counts – the one on Election Day – and that’s the one that I am focusing on” remarked the MANA Movement candidate for Waiariki, Annette...
    Mana | 02-09
  • Local communities critical to Civil Defence
    Labour will focus on empowering New Zealand communities to be resilient in Civil Defence disasters, says Labour’s Civil Defence spokesperson Clare Curran. Announcing Labour’s Civil Defence policy, she says that Labour will work with schools, voluntary agencies and community groups...
    Labour | 02-09
  • Labour looks to long-life passports, gambling harm review
    A return to 10 year passports and a review of gambling laws are highlights of Labour’s Internal Affairs policy released today. “More than 15,000 New Zealanders signed a petition calling on the Government to revert to the 10 year system...
    Labour | 02-09
  • MANA Movement Leadership stands strong behind Internet MANA relationship
    “There is now, and always will be, a range of views about many issues within our movement and members are free to express them, but Georgina’s views on Kim Dotcom are not shared by the MANA Movement leadership or the vast majority...
    Mana | 01-09
  • Rebuilding the New Zealand Defence Force
    A Labour Government will make it a priority to rebuild the capacity of the Defence Force to carry out the tasks expected of it, says Labour’s Defence Spokesperson Phil Goff. Releasing Labour’s Defence Policy today he said the NZDF has...
    Labour | 01-09
  • Speech to Canterbury Chamber of Commerce
    Today I'm going to talk about our policy package to upgrade and grow our economy and how we turn that growth into a foundation for a decent and fair society. But first I want to address the issue of our...
    Labour | 01-09
  • Commission of Inquiry must have bipartisan support
    The Labour Party is drafting terms of reference for a Commission of Inquiry, Labour’s Shadow Attorney-General David Parker says. “It is abundantly clear there is a need for an independent Commission of Inquiry, chaired by a High Court Judge, into...
    Labour | 01-09
  • As if you needed another reason to boycott Telecom/Spark – they sold NZ d...
    It should read ‘never stop spying’. As if you needed another reason to boycott Telecom/Spark – they sold us down the river to the US by allowing the Southern Cross cable to be tapped… The ability for US intelligence agencies...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • The NZ First-Labour Party attack strategy against Internet MANA better work
    The final days of the campaign are ticking down and Labour and NZ First are manoeuvring to kill off the Internet MANA Party by both backing Kelvin Davis for Te Tai Tokerau. It’s a risky gambit that they better pray to Christ...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • Bill English’s latest insult to beneficiaries – apparently they are lik...
    National’s hatred towards the poor continues unabated as National desperately try to throw raw meat to their reactionary voter base in the hope to inspire enough hate and loathing to win back their redneck voters from the Conservative Party and from...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • Eminem ain’t happy with John Key
    Eminem ain’t happy with John Key...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • Key claims he did not inhale
    Key claims he did not inhale...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • Final prediction on election result 2014
    What an election campaign. The character assassination of David Cunliffe kicked things off with the Herald on Sunday falsely claiming $100 00 bottles of wine, $15 000 books and $150 000 in donations  from a donor that turned out to be...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • Live blog: Bainamarama takes commanding lead in Fiji elections
      Interview with Repúblika editor Ricardo Morris and Pacific Scoop’s Mads Anneberg. PACIFIC SCOOP TEAM By Ricardo Morris, Mads Anneberg, Alistar Kata and Biutoka Kacimaiwai in Suva WHILE the results are provisional at this stage, it is clear today that...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • 5AA Australia: NZ Elections Two Days To Go! + Edward Snowden + Julian Assan...
    Recorded live on 18/09/14 – Captured Live on Ustream at http://www.ustream.tv/channel/multimedia-investments-ltd 5AA Australia’s Peter Godfrey and Selwyn Manning deliver their weekly bulletin: Across The Ditch. This week, they discuss the latest news as New Zealanders go to the polls on...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • What has Colin Craig done for his Press Secretary to quit 2 days before ele...
    This is VERY strange.  Colin Craig’s Press Secretary Rachel McGregor, has quit 2 days before the election, allegedly telling ZB that Colin Craig was a “very manipulative man”. I’ve met Rachel many times in the past as Colin’s Press Secretary, she is...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • “If you want steak, go to the supermarket and buy steak,” – A brief w...
    “If you want steak, go to the supermarket and buy steak,” said Key in the final leaders debate. Problem of course is that the 250 000 – 285 000 children living in poverty can not afford steak, milk, butter, eggs...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • National’s final bash of beneficiaries before the election
    On cue, whenever National feel threatened, they roll out a little bennie bash just to keep their redneck voter base happy. Nothing like a bit of raw meat policy to keep National voters focused on the evil threat solo parents...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • With All Of This In Mind, I Vote
    This is my last blog before the election and I really just want to speak from the heart. Right now in this country it seems to me that a lot of people consider the “essentials” in life to be simply...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • Left has to vote strategically this election
    The dedication, loyalty, and tribalism of party politics means that sometimes the left lets itself down by not voting strategically. We all want our favoured party to get maximum votes, naturally, but the winner-takes-all approach doesn’t always suit multi-party left...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • Dear NZ – as you enter the polling booth, stand up for your rights
    The last days before a NZ general election are a busy time as politicians make their pitch and party activists prepare to get out the vote. It is sort of weird watching from the distance of Europe the strangest election...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • What is Waihopai, John, if it isn’t a facility for “mass surveillance...
    John Key assured us on RNZ’s Nine to Noon programme yesterday that “In terms of the Fives Eyes data bases… yes New Zealand will contribute some information but not mass wholesale surveillance.” How does this square with the operation of the...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • GUEST BLOG: Catherine Delahunty – Mass Surveillance and the Banality of E...
    Renowned journalist and intellectual Hannah Arendt coined the phrase “the banality of evil” to describe the normalisation of genocide in Nazi Germany. I thought of her phrase when I was listening to Glenn Greenwald and other international whistle-blowers talking about...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • Election. Down. To. The. Wire
    Funny how last week it was John Key winning by 50%, now it’s neck and neck. I have always believed this election would be down to the wire and it is proving so. The flawed landline opinion polls the mainstream...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • 3rd Degree uses Whaleoil for story ideas as if Dirty Politics never happene...
    TV3s 3rd Degrees smear job on Kim Dotcom last night doesn’t bear much repeating. It was pretty pathetic journalism from a team who have brought us some great journalism in the past. It is sad to see 3rd Degree stooping...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • Live blog: Bainimarama takes early lead in Fiji’s election
    Pacific Scoop’s Alistar Kata reports from yesterday’s voting. By Alistar Kata of Pacific Scoop in Suva Prime Minister Voreqe Bainimarama took an early lead in provisional results in the Fiji general election last night. With provisional results from 170 out...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • Has The NSA Constructed The Perfect PPP?
    Former intelligence analyst and whistleblower, Edward Snowden – speaking live to those gathered at the Auckland Town Hall on Monday September 17, 2014. Investigation by Selwyn Manning. THE PRIME MINISTER JOHN KEY’s admission on Wednesday that whistleblower Edward Snowden “may...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • No way – Key admits Snowden is right
    After claiming there was no middle ground. After claiming there was no mass surveillance. After calling Glenn Greenwald a henchman and a loser. After all the mainstream media pundits screamed at Kim’s decision to take his evidence to Parliamentary Privileges...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • Bad luck National
    ...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • The incredible changing John Key story on mass spying – why the Moment of...
    While the mainstream media continue to try and make the Moment of Truth about Kim’s last minute decision to prolong his battle against John Key past the election into the Privileges Committee, the reality is that the Moment of Truth...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • GUEST BLOG: Curwen Rolinson – Themes of the Campaign
    There’s one area of a political campaign that just about everyone, at some point, falls afoul of. The campaign song. I’m not sure quite why it is, but it seems to be almost impossible for political parties to come up...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • GUEST BLOG – Denis Tegg – The NSA slides that prove mass surveillance
    The evidence presented by Glenn Greenwald and Edward Snowden on The Intercept of mass surveillance of New Zealanders by the GCSB is undeniable, and can stand on its own. But when you place this fresh evidence in the context of...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • Ukraine, United Kingdom, Ireland, Scotland
    The Ukrainian civil war discomforts me. It seems to me the most dangerous political crisis since the Cuban missile crisis of 1962. And it’s because of our unwillingness to examine the issues in a holistic way. We innately prefer to...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • John Key’s love affair with a straw man – the relationship intensifies
    John Key’s love affair with the straw man is now a fully-committed relationship. It’s now the first love of his life. Sorry Bronagh. Yesterday I pointed to Key’s constant assurances that there is no mass surveillance of New Zealanders by...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • A brief word on why Wendyl Nissen is a hero
    Wendyl Nissen is a hero. The sleazy black ops attack on her by Slater and Odgers on behalf of Grocery Council chief executive Katherine Rich is sick. All Nissen is doing in her column is point out the filth and...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • She saw John Key on TV and decided to vote!
    . . NZ, Wellington, 15 September – ‘Tina’* is 50, a close friend,  and one of the “Missing Million” from the last election. In fact, ‘Tina’ has never voted in her life.  Not once. In ‘Tina’s’ own words, politics has...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • Eminem sues National Party for unlawful use of ‘Lose yourself’ bhahahah...
    …ahahahahahahahaha. Oh Christ this is hilarious… National Party sued over Eminem copyright infringment US rapper Eminem is suing the National Party for allegedly breaching copyright by using his song Lose Yourself in its campaign advertisements. The Detroit-based publishers of Eminem’s...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • Are the Greens about to be snookered by a Labour-NZ First Government?
    I wrote last week that it was smart politics that the Greens pointed out they could work with National, the soft blue vote that’s looking for a home in the wake of Dirty Politics isn’t going to Labour, so the...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • BLOGWATCH: Fonterra join 2Degrees and boycott Whaleoil
    In the wake of Dirty Politics, advertisers are pulling their advertising out of Whaleoil. PaknSave, Evo Cycles Pukekohe, Localist, 2 Degrees, Fertility Associates, iSentia, NZ Breast Cancer Foundation, Maori TV, Bookme.co.nz, Dobetter.co.nz and the Sound are now joined by Fonterra...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • PM Key accused of allowing secret ‘spook’ cable sensors to spy on citiz...
    Pulitzer prize-winning journalist Glenn Greenwald (left) and Kim Dotcom at the “moment of truth” political surveillance meeting in Auckland last night. Image: PMW By ANNA MAJAVU of Pacific Media Watch NEW ZEALAND Prime Minister John Key has been accused of...
    The Daily Blog | 15-09
  • Fiji pre-election ‘politics’ blackout stirs media protests, frustration
    BLACKOUT DAY – Monday, day one of the “silence window” in Fiji leading up to the close of polling in the general election at 6pm on Wednesday. And this is under the draconian threat of a $10,000 fine or five...
    The Daily Blog | 15-09
  • “Now the work of movements begins”: government corruption, media bias, ...
    I am so tired of the dirty politics of the National government, aren’t you? I am tired of John Key and his pathetic attacks on award-winning journalists who have spent their careers fighting and digging for truth and good. The...
    The Daily Blog | 15-09
  • Moment of Truth review, smoking guns and the awful coverage by the NZ msm
      There were queues unlike any the Town Hall has seen, 1000 were turned away once it became full…     …full to the rafters. The energy and atmosphere within the room was extraordinary, and it begun…   …Glenn Greenwald...
    The Daily Blog | 15-09
  • Why Maori TV’s Te Tai Tokeraou Poll will be proved wrong
    If Hone Harawira had a dollar every time the media wrote off his chance of winning Te Tai Tokeraou, he would have more money than Kim Dotcom. Remember the by-election? Hone was 1 point ahead of Kelvin in an exact...
    The Daily Blog | 15-09
  • September 15 RNZ interviews – and then the Moment of Truth
    . Acknowledgement: Emmerson . 15 September – Leading up to the Moment of Truth public meeting this evening, these Radio NZ interviews are worth listening to; . Alt link . Alt link . Alt link . Alt link . Alt...
    The Daily Blog | 15-09
  • Live Stream: Moment of Truth Tonight 7pm
    Live Video Stream by eCast: The Daily Blog will Live Stream the Moment of Trust public meeting from 7pm. The meeting will feature Glenn Greenwald, Kim Dotcom, Robert Amsterdam, and a very special guest…...
    The Daily Blog | 15-09
  • The proof Key lied about GCSB mass surveillance
    And we start getting to the evidence that proves Key has lied about mass surveillance. The article by Glenn Greenwald is out and it is beyond damning… Documents provided by NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden show that the government worked in...
    The Daily Blog | 15-09
  • A brief word on the Ede-Slater emails
    Every day I have rushed to read the paper to see if a breaking story on the Ede-Slater emails had broken yet. They haven’t. Day after day, where are these emails? We know Rawshark sent the emails to David Fisher...
    The Daily Blog | 15-09
  • The email that proves Key is a liar
    This is the Email proving Key knew about Kim Dotcom before he claims he did… “We had a really good meeting with the Prime Minister. He’s a fan and we’re getting what we came for. Your groundwork in New Zealand...
    The Daily Blog | 15-09
  • Henchmen
    Henchmen...
    The Daily Blog | 14-09
  • Why it simply isn’t credible that Key stepped in and shut down the mass s...
    Key’s staggering admission that yes there was a year long business model by the GCSB to mass spy on all of NZ but  that he stepped in and shut it down after Cabinet had signed it off just sounds like make...
    The Daily Blog | 14-09
  • John Key’s love affair with a straw man
    Politicians like putting up straw men for the purpose of self-righteously knocking them over. Prime Minister John Key has a particular straw man he loves to punch over. He raises it whenever he’s asked about mass surveillance of New Zealanders...
    The Daily Blog | 14-09
  • John Armstrong turns on Glenn Greenwald
    Where does a mediocre journalist like John Armstrong get off attacking a journalist with the credibility of Glenn Greenwald as he has in his ridiculous column today? Armstrong has the audacity to try and play the terrorism card to justify why...
    The Daily Blog | 14-09
  • GUEST BLOG: Denis Tegg – Which of John Key’s many statements on the GC...
    We already have Glenn Greenwald’s assertion on The Nation that John Key has misled New Zealanders as to whether the GCSB has engaged in mass surveillance of Kiwis. But Key has made many other statements about the GCSB’s powers and...
    The Daily Blog | 14-09
  • Election 2014: Numbers and Faces
    Democratic politics is a game of numbers and faces. How can we translate the numbers into the 120 or more faces that will be in the next Parliament? Below is my prediction of a likely result: 120 people, divided by...
    The Daily Blog | 14-09
  • Scotland the brave
    The possibility that Scotland will vote for independence this Thursday has panicked the British establishment. An unholy alliance of Tory, Labour, Liberal and corporate leaders has resorted to fear-mongering and bullying on grand scale in a last ditch effort to...
    The Daily Blog | 14-09
  • Why Key’s denials sound so off and why Dotcom’s fight is all our fight
    The shrillness of Key is the issue. His denials just too forced and rehearsed. Key has gone from Hollow Man to Shallow Man with his lashing out at Pulitzer Price winning Journalist Glenn Greenwald by calling him a ‘henchman’. This...
    The Daily Blog | 14-09
  • Judge’s Decision Disappoints Fish & Game
    Today’s decision to give a Temuka man 100 hours of community service for selling sports fish to the public has disappointed Fish & Game, which believes the sentence handed down was “too lenient and will not go far enough to...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Cutting-Edge Graphics Fire up TV3’s Election Night Coverage
    TV3’s Election Night coverage, hosted by John Campbell, will be enhanced by cutting-edge graphics that will showcase the night’s results....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Govt rushes to open charter schools in New Year
    The government’s decision to approve four new charter schools last week to open in January next year goes against the Minister of Education’s own advice that the schools ought to have at least a year’s preparation time....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • 7 Days And Jono And Ben at Ten Hijack Election Weekend
    The 7 Days and Jono and Ben at Ten (JABAT) comedians are running their own version of election coverage, with a schedule of entertainment and comedy across TV3, Kiwi FM, the web and social media this Friday and Saturday under...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Fewer Prisoners Equals Less Crime
    In its latest blog, ‘Abolishing Parole and other Crazy Stuff’,’ at http://blog.rethinking.org.nz/2014/09/krill-and-womble-independent-policy.html , Rethinking Crime and Punishment urges government to rethink its approach to releasing prisoners. “The public expectation is that the excellent reductions in the crime...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • McVicar slams his political opponents
    I want a safe and prosperous society and that can only be achieved if we have strong and vi-brant families – McVicar...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Falling economic growth – wage rises overdue
    “The lower GDP growth in the three months to June is further evidence that growth has peaked. New Zealand’s economy is on the way down to mediocre growth rates,” says CTU economist Bill Rosenberg. “Yet wage rises are still weak...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Get Out and Vote campaign a success
    Tens of thousands of workers from all around New Zealand have embraced the Get Out and Vote campaign and have created their own personalised voting plan, the CTU said today. “With three days of voting left in the 2014 General...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Animal Research Failing – So Do More Animal Research?
    Victoria University of Wellington is about to host a lecture on why the success rates of pharmaceutical development is so low and what can be done about it. The New Zealand Anti-Vivisection Society (NZAVS) welcomes discussion on this important...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • ALCP welcomes Prime Minister’s cannabis comments
    Mr Abbott's comments came on the same day as New South Wales and Victoria states announced they would be doing clinical trials of cannabis....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Conservative Party Press Secretary Resignation
    The Conservative Party is given to understand that this morning Press Secretary, Miss Rachel Macgregor resigned althought no formal advice of this has yet been received....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • By ACT’s logic, Epsom should vote for Conservative Candidate
    “Polling released late in the campaign shows that ACT is a busted flush and that by ACT’s own logic, centre-right Epsom voters should vote for the Conservative candidate”, says Labour candidate for Epsom Michael Wood....
    Scoop politics | 17-09
  • New online medical system
    Immigration New Zealand (INZ) is seeking registrations of interest for a new onshore panel physician network to support an online immigration health processing system....
    Scoop politics | 17-09
  • Students, You Have a Choice, Vote!
    The New Zealand Union of Students’ Associations (NZUSA) is imploring students to ensure they make their voices heard this election, and join the many thousands who have already heeded the call....
    Scoop politics | 17-09
  • Party vote ACT for three years of stability.
    Voters who are concerned that on the latest polls we may be heading for three years of instability have it in their hands to deliver a decisive result....
    Scoop politics | 17-09
  • Women’s Suffrage Movement – Get Out and Vote!
    Tomorrow, Friday 19th September, MANA Movement Candidate for Waiariki, Annette Sykes, will cast her vote at 12 noon at the Zen’s Building, Rotorua. This will follow a march through Rotorua that will assemble at 10am at City Focus, Rotorua. The...
    Scoop politics | 17-09
  • iPredict Daily Update
    David Cunliffe and Labour have made gains over the last 24 hours, according to the combined wisdom of the 8000+ registered traders on New Zealand’s predictions market, iPredict, but John Key’s National is still strongly expected to lead the next...
    Scoop politics | 17-09
  • Conservative’s Proposal to Abolish Parole Fatally Flawed
    The Conservative Party’s proposal to abolish parole doesn't stack up, however which way you look at it, concludes Kim Workman in Rethinking Crime and Punishment latest blog, ‘Abolishing Parole and Other Crazy Stuff’ at http://blog.rethinking.org.nz/2014/09/krill-and-womble-independent-policy.html...
    Scoop politics | 17-09
  • Special Edition : The letter 18 September 2014
    Dr Jamie Whyte has been giving thoughtful speeches largely unreported. So we thought we would put out an edited version on the speech he gave yesterday. The full speech is on the website....
    Scoop politics | 17-09
  • Differences in educational level reflected in voter choice
    Differences in educational level reflected in voter preferences The Green party has the highest proportion of tertiary educated supporters and NZ First has the least according to an analysis by the Election Data Consortium. The Consortium is made...
    Scoop politics | 17-09
  • Renters need assistance to improve poor housing conditions
    Thursday 18 September 2014 Renters are living in poorer conditions than homeowners and are less empowered to improve their housing situation according to a study by medical students at the University of Otago, Wellington. The fourth year medical...
    Scoop politics | 17-09
  • Pacific Island Affairs & NZ Police to work more closely
    The Ministry of Pacific Island Affairs Chief Executive, Pauline Winter, and The Commissioner of Police, Mike Bush, are this afternoon signing a Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) between the Ministry and the New Zealand Police....
    Scoop politics | 17-09
  • Te Hira Paenga sets the record straight
    In recent days there has been much speculation about my campaign in Te Tai Tokerau. Some commentators have suggested that I should step down or endorse the Labour candidate in an attempt to stop the Internet Party riding on the...
    Scoop politics | 17-09
  • Last Chance to Enrol to Vote – Don’t Miss Out
    Last Chance to Enrol to Vote – Don’t Miss Out If you’re not enrolled now, you need to hurry or you won’t be able to vote in this Saturday’s general election. “Election day is almost here, and it’s your last...
    Scoop politics | 17-09
  • Stuart Nash voted against wishes of Napier Electorate
    Napier Conservative Party Candidate Garth McVicar says the recent decision by the Advertising Standards Authority in reply to a complaint laid by Stuart Nash’s campaign manager confirms that Nash voted against the wishes of the Napier electorate. Robert...
    Scoop politics | 17-09
  • What price life asks Conservative Party
    The Conservative Party are asking what is the price of life if the killer of a defenceless homeless man who was viciously beaten and left to die was jailed for just 11 and a half years....
    Scoop politics | 17-09
  • National Stands To Lose Votes If Animal Welfare Is Ignored
    SAFE has presented Prime Minister John key with a 40,000 signature-strong petition calling for a farrowing crate ban....
    Scoop politics | 17-09
  • Statement From Kim Dotcom
    Tonight Third Degree broadcast issues raised by three former staff members who are in dispute with us....
    Scoop politics | 17-09
  • Three Internet-Mana Policies Blow the Bribe-O-Meter to Bits
    The Taxpayers’ Union has received advice that the cost of just three Internet-Mana policies is $17.6 billion - higher than the entire policy packages of the three main political parties combined. Taxpayers’ Union Executive Director Jordan Williams...
    Scoop politics | 17-09
  • Pregnancy Help Welcomes Green Party Packs for Newborn Babies
    Pregnancy Help applauds Metiria Turei acknowledging that “for many parents the birth of a new child is a highly stressful and financially straining time” and the desire for every child to thrive....
    Scoop politics | 17-09
  • McVicar Welcomes ASA Decision
    Napier Conservative Party Candidate Garth McVicar welcomes the Advertising Standards Authority’s decision to not uphold the pamphlet complaint of Robert Johnson, Campaign Manager for Napier Labour candidate Stuart Nash. The ASA acknowledged that one complaint...
    Scoop politics | 17-09
  • Whyte: In 12 months’ time, here is what will matter
    In three days’ time I will be elected along with a number of ACT MPs. I think the media will be surprised and ask how it happened?...
    Scoop politics | 17-09
  • Internet MANA Will Grant Special Residency to Edward Snowden
    Internet MANA will put the case to the new government to welcome global surveillance whistle blower Edward Snowden, granting him safe passage and residency in New Zealand....
    Scoop politics | 17-09
  • Ten millionth traveller uses SmartGate
    The 10 millionth traveller to pass through SmartGate, Customs’ automated passenger processing system, was greeted by Customs Manager Passenger Operations, Peter Lewis today at Auckland International Airport....
    Scoop politics | 17-09
  • Key vs. Cunliffe: Final Live NZ Election Reactor 7pm Tonight
    John Key and David Cunliffe go head to head for the last time tonight and you can decide who wins by driving the worm. This is the last live Election Reactor covering the debate tonight at 7pm on TV One....
    Scoop politics | 17-09
  • Offenders Get Road Safety Message
    Wellington Community Corrections partnered with emergency services, government agencies, organisations and Kapiti Coast District Council to deliver an innovative road safety programme to 70 community-based offenders at Southwards Car Museum on Tuesday 16...
    Scoop politics | 17-09
  • Proposed law to decriminalise Abortion
    http://images.tvnz.co.nz/tvnz_images/news2011/politics_news/12/q_a_interview__list_mp_jan_logie_n2.jpgRight to Life is disappointed that the Green Party is refusing to provide a response to the seven very important questions that have been addressed to Jan Logie, spokesperson...
    Scoop politics | 17-09
  • Election 2014 Will Be Costly
    The Taxpayers’ Union has today released the final update for its ' Bribe-O-Meter ' election costing website in the lead-up to Saturday’s general election. Taxpayers’ Union Executive Director Jordan Williams says:...
    Scoop politics | 17-09
  • Roy Morgan Poll September 17
    John Key set to win narrow election victory on Saturday as Labour/Greens slump puts Winston Peters in powerful position as NZ First surge to 8% Today’s New Zealand Roy Morgan Poll shows National (46.5%, up 1.5%) set to win a...
    Scoop politics | 17-09
  • Wahakura Package would provide warm welcome for babies
    The Greens Wahakura Welcome package announced yesterday is a wonderful example of child-centred policy which would help all children get a fair and equal start in life, says Child Poverty Action Group. CPAG health spokesperson Innes Asher says,...
    Scoop politics | 17-09
  • TPPA a Sellout to American Corporate Greed
    New Zealand will become a permanent prisoner to the United States’ greed and global arrogance if the Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement (TPPA) isn’t stopped, warns Internet MANA....
    Scoop politics | 17-09
  • Wintry showers and blustery winds for Election Day
    As we head towards the weekend, it is time to look at what the weather will be for New Zealand's "Have Your Say" Day....
    Scoop politics | 17-09
  • New national secretary announced
    The PSA is pleased to announce the appointment of Erin Polaczuk to the role of national secretary....
    Scoop politics | 17-09
  • Public Secotr & TISA: On the cusp of something very special?
    Is the National Party keeping some things out of sight in case they frighten the electorate? Here is some worrying evidence that this may be the case....
    Scoop politics | 17-09
  • MPI ups yacht biosecurity ante
    Yachts arriving in Northland from overseas this season will face greater biosecurity scrutiny, says the Ministry for Primary Industries (MPI)....
    Scoop politics | 17-09
  • iPredict Election Update
    John Key’s National Party now has an 88% probability of leading the next government , most probably with the support of NZ First, according to the combined wisdom of the 8000+ registered traders on New Zealand’s predictions market, iPredict. There...
    Scoop politics | 17-09
  • Crowdfunding to Save Native Fish
    NZ Landcare Trust is offering an exciting project designed to assist native fish, as part of the launch of a new global crowdfunding category called 'The Landcare & Environment Collection.' This exciting step, aims to help raise funds and support,...
    Scoop politics | 17-09
  • New methods needed to reach non-voters
    Non-voters are much heavier users of the internet than those who do vote, while 43 per cent of non-voters say they never read a newspaper according to research released today by the Election Data Consortium....
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • Parties sent home with report cards
    More than 2000 New Zealanders came together to run a full page ad in the Herald today asking all Parties what they will commit to do to clean up politics. The answers are in, and ActionStation has graded Parties on...
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • One in 10 Kiwis want Winston Peters to Run the Country -Poll
    New Zealand First leader, Winston Peters has seen his personal popularity reach a three-year high in the final 3News/Reid Research poll ahead of Election Day....
    Scoop politics | 16-09
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