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NRT: A circus of self-mutilation

Written By: - Date published: 9:47 am, July 22nd, 2014 - 103 comments
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no-right-turn-256Reposted from No Right Turn.

The political weekend: the Greens announce serious, sensible, and popular policy, Internet-Mana packs out another public meeting, andLabour’s self-mutilation continues:

However, Labour MPS are disgusted by Cunliffe’s skiing holiday just two months before the election and will question his work ethic at a caucus meeting on Tuesday, a senior party insider said.

Labour is trailing National by 30 percentage points, polling just 24.9 per cent in the latest Stuff-Ipsos poll.

“A lot of MPs are really f….. off about it,” the insider said.

“They are all working hard up and down the country, and f…… Cunliffe is on holiday. Guys like [Phil] Goff and [Annette] King and [David] Shearer, these guys really want it badly and they are working like their lives depend on it. And I think they are a little incredulous about what the guy is doing.”

Yes, faced with an election they’re trying to convince us they need to win or National will privatise your kidneys and sell your children to a charter school, Labour’s “senior insiders” are sabotaging their own campaign and focusing on positioning themselves for the post-loss leadership struggle. Why would anyone vote for such a clown-show? More importantly, why would anyone volunteer for them? They’re clearly not worth the time and effort.

Meanwhile, Labour hacks are talking about the need for everyone on the left to work “hard, seamlessly, together, and well” (meaning “STFU and stop criticising Labour”). But its clear which party isn’t pulling its weight here. The Greens are on track to equal or better their 2011 performance. Internet-Mana is doing so well even John Armstrong has to notice. If the left loses this election, it will be because of Labour.

103 comments on “NRT: A circus of self-mutilation”

  1. Sable 1

    Labour are not really a left leaning party anymore. Their biggest shortcoming is they are trying to be an every-man party and they are predictably failing as there have no clear message and as a result no clear consensus from voters as to why they should vote Labour. Except perhaps that they voted Labour in the past which is not necessarily a good reason to do so in the future.

    I would never once have voted for anyone else. I come from a working class background of people who helped found what became Labour in Blackball once upon a time. Now I have not idea who Labour is or what they stand for. They seem on the one hand to want to be a socialist party but on the other hand have neo liberal aspirations which are at odds.

    I think this shows when it comes time for an election. You have factionalism breaking out with core Labour politicians at odds with the “new breed” of business focused Labourites. The fact is this is a “Labour” party not a business party. Those who want neo liberalism to thrive should really leave and join National.

    Yet here we are. I personally believe Labour as a party are finished. The Greens are professional, have good policy and are forward thinking. This is why I defected. Well to be honest I walked away from Labour back in mid 80’s when Lange’s government in my opinion betrayed everything Labour stood and moved over to the Alliance. I feel little has changed since.

    Labour will loose this election and with it they will loose any remaining credibility. I suspect in years to come the Greens will take their place and they will become a minor presence on the NZ political landscape.

    • swordfish 1.1

      Good old Blackball !!!

      Despite rose-tinted mythology to the contrary, Labour didn’t do particularly well in most West Coast mining towns until after the Great Depression. But there were 3 or 4 mining strongholds where Labour (and before it, the SDP) did indeed do spectacularly well right from the start – and Blackball was pre-eminent amongst them. The Left were winning Blackball overwhelmingly from WWI on.

      (slightly off-topic, I know. But I simply could nae resist a little stroll down memory-lane. Always good to remember the Lefties that came before us).

      • DS 1.1.1

        Labour won Buller from 1919 onwards. The other electorate (Westland) was held by Richard Seddon’s son for the Liberals into the 1920s. King Dick ran a pub on the Coast, remember, and people remembered him fondly.

        • swordfish 1.1.1.1

          True, DS.

          Although, if I was being pedantic, I’d say one of Labour’s precursor parties (the SDP – and, specifically, Paddy Webb) actually won the Grey seat in a pre-WWI By-Election, retained the seat at the 1914 General Election, and then (after Webb was jailed for refusing military service) soon-to-be Labour Party leader, Harry Holland won it for Labour in a 1918 By-Election and then took Buller in 1919, holding it until his death. (for quite a while, there were 3 seats on the West Coast, Buller in the north, Grey in the centre, and Westland in the south).

          Historically, there’s been a North-South divide to political loyalties on the West Coast. If you take the major towns, for instance, the most northern – Westport was always (at least from the Great Depression) overwhelmingly Labour (and it’s still the most Left-friendly of the Coast’s larger towns), Reefton (second most northerly) was usually strongly-but-not-overwhelmingly Labour, Greymouth’s usual colour was orange rather than red (ie marginal-to-moderately-strong Labour) and the most southern of the bigger towns, Hokitika, was usually the mirror image of Greymouth (marginal National). So not entirely surprising that Westland (Hokitika + the mainly rural southern two-thirds of Westland) remained out of Labour’s grasp for quite some time. If I remember rightly, though, it was usually a pretty closely fought contest in Westland. The secondary town of Ross was always Labour-leaning.

          But what struck me when I was analysing the booth-by-booth stats back in the 90s was that, despite the general assumption of historians that the mining towns were staunchly left-leaning/Socialist from the start, it was much more complex than that. The SDP and then Labour tended to do pretty well in some of the smaller mining towns, but were not particularly strong in the larger ones until the Great Depression caused a bit of a ideological upheaval. Blackball was one of a small group of towns that comprised a Left bastion pretty much from the start.

    • greywarbler 1.2

      @Sable
      I hope your prognosis is as incorrect as your spelling is loose.

    • Draco T Bastard 1.3

      Their biggest shortcoming is they are trying to be an every-man party and they are predictably failing as there have no clear message and as a result no clear consensus from voters as to why they should vote Labour.

      It’s not so much that they’re trying to be an every man party but that they’re still kowtowing to the rich while trying to be an every man party. They’re saying Yes, we’re going to change everything while keeping it the same for these select few just doesn’t work and comes across as being totally false.

    • David H 1.4

      Nice essay, but you really need to know the difference between LOSE and Loose. Clue: one of them means your pants are falling down.

      http://www.ross.net/notes/loose.shtml

      This is worse than the Moron/Moran debacle.

    • Murray Olsen 1.5

      I broadly agree with your analysis of the present Labour Party, but I think it will be Greens and Mana together who will take over from them. Mana have inherited the old radical social democratic values that Labour used to hold, while the Greens will be strong as a response to a different world view which we must develop. I think Mana and Greens are complementary in many ways.

      If the election is lost, it will be due to the pseudo-ACT MPs in Labour and the inability of the left wing to counter them. However, I hope we will win. I just hope we don’t have to depend on Winston First. I’d hate that :-(

  2. greywarbler 2

    This is today’s heading in Radionz News.

    Labour leader David Cunliffe plans a comeback ( 7′ 35″ )

    07:36 The Labour Leader David Cunliffe insists he is leading a united team and says he has no plans to hunt down the person who sparked headlines by criticising his three-day skiing holiday last week.

    If I found who spoke to a ‘source’ that person’s nose would be like tomato sauce. Violence is justified occasionally with adults. And it is all some understand. It can be more efficacious than words of sorrow and instruction or appealing to the person’s better nature. Which supposes they have one.

    Or perhaps a split lip would be more appropriate.

    • Pete 2.1

      Violence is justified occasionally with adults

      Unless you’re defending yourself or someone else from immediate physical harm (and I don’t mean the economic and social harm of a right-wing government), I’m going to have to disagree with you there. Use your words.

      • greywarbler 2.1.1

        @Pete
        I am defending myself and a lot of others too when I suggest a bloody nose. Perhaps I’ll get Trevor Mallard to carry out the punishment, though self flagellation it may be.

    • Richard McGrath 2.2

      “I walked away from Labour back in mid 80′s when Lange’s government in my opinion betrayed everything Labour stood and moved over to the Alliance. I feel little has changed since.”

      Sable, I’m curious as to why you would shift away from the Alliance – they are still a registered political party here. They haven’t deviated from their far left socialism, and I thought they would have lots of fans from the readership of this group.

      I agree with you that Labour are finished… Cunliffe never had the testicular fortitude to dump all free market policies, cannabilise Alliance policies and distance Labour from National.

    • Richard McGrath 2.3

      Violence against others, or the desire to inflict it, has always been an integral part of leftist activism. I’m sure there are non-violent ways of settling the situation you describe, such as enforcing a contract and expelling the person concerned from the party. You don’t have to resort to thuggery.

      • felix 2.3.1

        “Violence against others, or the desire to inflict it, has always been an integral part of leftist activism. “

        In the entire history of left vs right protest/industrial action in NZ, how many have been killed by those on the left?

        • Richard McGrath 2.3.1.1

          I have no idea, I haven’t been keeping a tally. Perhaps someone here might have that information. There has been a lot of less serious injury and property damage caused by protestors over the years.

          • felix 2.3.1.1.1

            The answer is none.

            And by those on the right?

            • Colonial Viper 2.3.1.1.1.1

              Thank you Felix. The global neoliberal movement which have caused untold numbers of deaths. Fuckers.

              • Richard McGrath

                As opposed to global communism which only killed between 85 and 100 million during the 20th century. Fuckers.

                • Colonial Viper

                  Compared to corporate capitalism, which is going to ecologically destroy the planet.

                  By the way, please account for your 85M figure.

                  • Richard McGrath

                    65 million in Red China
                    20 million in the USSR
                    2 million in Cambodia
                    2 million in North Korea
                    1.7 million in Africa
                    1.5 million in Afghanistan
                    1 million in Eastern Europe
                    1 million in Vietnam
                    150,000 in Latin America

                    • Richard McGrath

                      VTO’s response to the itemised list of deaths directly attributable to communist governments: “lol”.

                      Says it all, really.

                    • Harry

                      Richard – good point – conservative estimates there. For your trouble you get personal attacks from those who care about humanity so much that they can’t admit that communists ever did anything bad.

                      Forward comrades! To the gulag!

          • vto 2.3.1.1.2

            What? You have no idea? But you just claimed that the left does that violent shit – then immediately declare that you have no idea……

            no idea

            The left has killed nobody in NZ in its activism.

            The right has killed Mr Abbot in Wellington in 1982, a Mr Evans was killed by the right in Waihi in I think 1912, and another has also been killed by the right in industrial action.

            You may also want to check out various right wing attack mobs and vigilantes http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJj3Kx1eCO8

            It is the right wing that is violent.

            Go learn some basics you great useless ignoramus. Your type is dangerous in its ignorance

            • Richard McGrath 2.3.1.1.2.1

              Gosh you lot are pleasant people. VTO, it is perfectly valid for me to claim that those on the left use thuggery, without knowing precisely how many people were killed by them. Thuggery and murder are different degrees of violence. Even if the number murdered by leftists in New Zealand was zero, that doesn’t equate to them being non violent.

    • Murray Olsen 2.4

      I am not a pacifist and I can sympathise with your lust for tomato sauce, even though I try to use words these days. Possibly mainly due to illness, I’ve been successful for about 8 years.

      Cunliffe should make sure that the idiot, if they are in Labour, is shamed and expelled. By not doing this, he’s not doing any of us any favours.

  3. Tiger Mountain 3

    Now is the time to ‘snatch victory from the jaws of defeat’ as the saying goes. All efforts should be put into mobilising a “change the government” voter turnout.

    The agonising over and flaying of Labour can surely wait a few more weeks, the torys are certainly doing a decent enough hatchet job without left energy going there too. If the Internet Mana roll and the Greens mini tsunami like quiet achiever performance plus what Labour can pull out of the bag during the campaign does deliver then a different type of struggle just begins. But in a way better political climate than relentless tory attacks.

    • Re Labour;
    Lets be clear. Labour is a class collaborationist third way social democratic party, but still supported by many working class and middle class people.
    –Many firm lefties departed Labour long ago and the new leader ranks are predominately managerialists which makes things like party democracy that are so obvious to some of us a difficult concept to them.
    –Super at 67–a sure vote loser, blank out the bennies ditto. Dumping the Reserve Bank Act–not on your…
    This will not change before September 3–20 so lets get on with doing the best we can in whatever party or part of the community you operate in. If Labour can’t sit on the zoo that is the left over Rogernomes we are all going to suffer. So I am both critical of and supportive of Labour in this election as part of the needed left bloc.

  4. Mike Smith 4

    Speaking of witless fools, what’s the point of keeping these stories running?

    • Tom Gould 4.1

      Because blaming everyone else for their own spectacular failure is all the real ‘witless fools’ can do, perhaps?

    • ghostwhowalksnz 4.2

      You are totally right. The original report referred to ‘party insider’, which is weak attribution. Even DPF says he been called a party insider. So we could have had someone who writes on blogs having a bitch about something. Think about it, the journalist has space to fill with their name on it.
      National doesnt get these stories because they have a full time cohort looking into and giving this sort of background info to journalists

    • McFlock 4.3

      good for mana and the greens.

      Benefits to the left as a whole are therefore debatable one way or t’other, I guess. Shame for folk to regurgitate tory propaganda, though – leaves a bit of a foul aftertaste.

      • Sacha 4.3.1

        How is Labour repeatedly putting its foot in its mouth helping any party on the left? Unless they’d rather be in opposition for another 3 years.

        • McFlock 4.3.1.1

          I read the question as being “what’s the point of no right turn recycling tory beatups about alleged discontent within the Labour party?”

          • Sacha 4.3.1.1.1

            Because some of us have been hoping they’d listen, so we can get a functioning left government. And look:

            http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/10294305/Cunliffe-The-fightback-begins-now

            “Cunliffe said this afternoon’s caucus meeting, postponed to allow him to get back from delivering a speech in Nelson, would have some “earnest conversations about how we can do better”.

            “I am sure that the caucus will be as determined as I am that we stick to our knitting and to our core messages about jobs, homes and families, and avoid distractions,” Cunliffe said.”

    • deep throat 4.4

      Exactly Mike Smith.
      something has happened here.
      and I mean here on the Standard.
      Instead of being a vehicle for the party this blog is turning into a blab fest for anybody who is agaisnt the party and furthermore the editors who say they support the party are letting the creeps get away with it.
      How can we win an election if the creeps are allowed free access to run riot with their opinions and vitriol.
      The editors here better wake up.

      • fender 4.4.1

        Oh dear, you may be new around here and although it’s not my place to tell you, you better read the about and the policy

        If you don’t get a tune up from Lprent, count yourself lucky.

      • mickysavage 4.4.2

        The Standard has always had an open policy on debate. Keep it to the point and obey the rules and robust discussion is allowed. I don’t see any breach of those rules here.

        FWIW I did not put this post up. We often use IS’s posts so it is no surprise here. I agree with Mike that we should be discussing important issues such as what is wrong with the country and what we can do to fix it up.

        • The Fan Club 4.4.2.1

          And just last night you were reassuring me that we were all about happy winning election stuff, and here’s another story run specifically to rark up the readership here about how much we hate those evuullll ABCs, and look, there’s people threatening to bludgeon Labour MPs in the face up there.

          Is it Annette King who’s going to have “a nose like tomato sauce”? Or maybe it’ll be Clare Curran who gets the bash? Or shall we batter Chris Hipkins until he’s gushing blood? You choose, based on whatever prejudices you have available.

          You know exactly what running these stories will do, you know exactly the response they’ll get, and still you run them, all so that if Cunliffe leads the party to the worst defeat ever this election he can still cling on to the leadership in a death grip. It’s disgusting.

          [Did you read my comment where I said I did not put this post up? It was not my choice and I would have preferred something less inflamatory. The Standard is a large collective with different writers. One of the others put it up. To be frank I do wish the misbehaviour by some MPs/candidates would stop. Someone is leaking like crazy and if they are within the party then they need to be dealt to, within the rules of course. Comment held for now because you appear to be trying to start a flame war – MS]

          [lprent: I put the post up. It needed to be said because there is some fuckwit dickhead(s) around inside Labour and they are causing some real damage to the left. Some fools are letting their personal ambition to get the better of their common sense in my opinion. This site is here to express opinions on the left. Clearly you don’t respect that. I guess you don’t like it. So live with that.

          Fuck off and be a dumb wanker elsewhere. You are banned until september 21st. ]

      • swordfish 4.4.3

        You seem to be playing the role here of some sort of deeply loyal long-time Labour Party activist, DT. But wasn’t it just yesterday that you informed us all you “…used to vote national but after they said they would give colin craig a membership deal I will not vote for them anymore>” ?

        Here…http://thestandard.org.nz/herald-says-weird-things-about-cunliffe-and-labour-clutha-southland-candidate/#comment-852666

        In other words, National right up until recent weeks ?

        So why all this sudden fierce loyalty to “The Party” ? And why this sudden concern that “the real party people are leaving in droves because they are disgusted with the tone that has crept in here” ?

    • Blue 4.5

      what’s the point of keeping these stories running?

      The point is akin to holding a blowtorch to the privates of the fucking idiots who can’t keep their mouths shut.

      I can understand the desire to sweep it all under the carpet, I really can. But then I see headlines like this and it just brings all the anger to the surface again.

      David Cunliffe, a father of two young children and a man leading a party that believes in allowing people to have time with their children is slammed for taking a three day holiday with them knowing that he won’t see much of them for the next two months. And he is forced to apologise because some fuckwit thinks he’s lazy for taking three days. This fuckwit further thinks that the ‘damage’ done by David’s three day holiday miraculously outweighs the damage done by said fuckwit criticising their leader in public and making Labour look like a divided mess destined for disaster, again.

      We had been doing so well – the leaks had stopped, Labour was presenting a reasonably united front in public, there had been some good policy and speeches coming out and then BAM, it’s back to ‘geez, what a fucking mess Labour are, they can’t even run their own party, let alone a country’.

      Infighting is the kiss of death at the ballot box. See what happened to Australian Labor for reference. Voters cannot abide disunity and they will vote for pretty much anything (see Tony Abbott) over a divided party where MPs spend all their time fighting with each other.

      The absolute fucking imbecile who blabbed to the media has done more damage in one day than all of the other distractions combined. It doesn’t seem to matter how often and how loud we shout it – the message to SHUT THE FUCK UP doesn’t seem to get through the thick skulls in caucus.

      There had better not be a repeat of this incident.

  5. Michael 5

    Better luck next time then?

  6. deep throat 6

    the proprietors of the Standard brand are letting creeps walk in here and shit all over the floor and the real party people are leaving in droves because they are disgusted with the tone that has crept in here and the barbed threats.
    The original standard people would not have stood still for a minute for this sort of nonsense.

    [lprent: Actually you can’t get any more original than me. I installed the wordpress, and registered the domain name. ]

    • just saying 6.1

      the barbed threats.

      People say what they like within the constraints of the stated rules, and the unstated – not bullying, unduly abusing, or intimidating others.

      If you feel you or someone else in being threatened, you need to be more explicit. But if it is dissent that you are worried about…. well, a left-wing blog is probably a worrying place.

      • deep throat 6.1.1

        I’m just saying that I agree with dissent %100 percent.
        as for the barbed threats and who made them then I will save that for later when they are needed.
        If you cant be bothered to keep up with the play then thats your problem.
        keep talking.
        as for NRT there was no “senior labour MP”.
        all that was a barefaced lie supplied to the press and picked up with glee with no attribution.
        that is the KEY to this election.
        Who is making up the lies and who is telling them.
        if you keep going after them one by one then all energy will be dissipated in a pointless and unwinnable activity.
        Not just one lie like the Zinoviev letter but an unending succession of them wholesale that are being retailed for full priced for buying special shoot yourself in the foot bullets.

        • Colonial Viper 6.1.1.1

          I’m just saying that I agree with dissent %100 percent.

          Don’t really sound like you are loving it in practice.

    • David H 6.2

      So what DT we just let you Right wing Trolls just come in here and shit everywhere?

      If you want to shit everywhere just piss off back to whaleslime and TricKeys Fantasy site. (God that just sounds UGGGGgggggg)

      • Te Reo Putake 6.2.1

        I don’t think DT is a right winger, David. His comment history is quite consistently left.

  7. emergency mike 7

    On the front page of TS this post references “the witless fool “senior” MP in Labour”, but the stuff article is quoting a “senior party insider”, which might not be, and probably isn’t a MP I’m guessing.

    I’ve heard Richard Prebble presented as a ‘Labour insider’ ffs.

    • lprent 7.1

      On the front page of TS this post references “the witless fool “senior” MP in Labour”, but the stuff article is quoting a “senior party insider”, which might not be, and probably isn’t a MP I’m guessing.

      The actual bit that points to the “senior party insider” (as it was in the original article (which has now been extensively amended)) in the SST being a MP is:-

      We will be having a talk to David at caucus about his work ethic on Tuesday.”

      The problem for your thesis is that is quite a specific statement. The people in a caucus meeting are the MPs, the party secretary, and often the party president. I don’t think it would have been Tim Barnett or Moira Coatsworth leaking that kind of destabilising crap to a reporter.

      So either the reporter (Steve Kilgallon) was simply making crap up (ie lying) in one of more parts of his article before Simon Day got into it, or someone was stirring shit up inside caucus in exactly the same manner as happened in 2012 – which ultimately was the reason why this story was believable.

      If it was the former case, then Steve Kilgallon has now entered my shit list as a outright liar and unworthy of being a journalist..

      It it was the latter case, then from the quotes it would appear that the unnamed source was trying to destabilize the result of this election for the left to get some kind of positioning advantage post-election. If I ever find out who that was, I will be making a formal request to boot them out of Labour.

      In any case I’m really pissed off with the caucus for having played the types of past antics that made this story believable.

      I really don’t care either way

  8. I’m not a fan of NRT’s depressing tendency to label anyone and everyone he can as a “Labour hack” rather than engage with their actual arguments. This now probably extends to every Labour Party volunteer who chooses to continue working hard in the election campaign because they believe in it.

    • No, I’d call those people “suckers”. But if they want to work for a party organisation which seems intent on undermining their efforts, that’s their problem.

      • One numpty-saboteur =/= the entire party organisation.

        • Colonial Viper 8.1.1.1

          It takes but one saboteur to open the city gates and lose the entire war.

          • Richard McGrath 8.1.1.1.1

            … or to lance the festering boil and squeeze out the fetid cheesy contents.

          • Stephanie Rodgers 8.1.1.1.2

            Yes, but the point is that one saboteur’s actions are not reflective of total systemic failure.

            I/S would probably argue that there’s been total systemic failure as well, but one is still not proof of the other.

            • Colonial Viper 8.1.1.1.2.1

              Yes, but the point is that one saboteur’s actions are not reflective of total systemic failure.

              I think you are taking a somewhat optimistic view of this. This type of sabotage behaviour doesn’t usually occur in isolation from a permissive/provocative organisational context and culture. And as lprent has pointed out, this most recent sabotage behaviour looks more like a continuing pattern rather than a one off.

              I agree with you in that it may not point to a “total systemic failure” per se, but it does suggest that serious re-engineering and democratisation within the Labour Party has to continue.

      • lprent 8.1.2

        But if they want to work for a party organisation which seems intent on undermining their efforts, that’s their problem.

        I have no particular problem with putting up your post. It made a useful point. However this statement demands a rejoinder.

        I guess that never working for any party in particular in a campaign (as far as I can see) makes you an expert on the subject? It must be like never being disappointed in a relationship by never having any?

        What it points to is some fool(s) being more concerned about their own objectives and less concerned (as you pointed out) with those of either the party or of cause of the left in general.

        Basically egotist fools are pretty common in all political organisations, left, right or in any other axes you care to name.

    • Anne 8.2

      I think Jenny Kirk has put it in a nut-shell.

      Herald 22nd July- Letter to the Editor.

      Labour grizzlers

      I am fed up with cowardly Labour MPs grizzling anonymously about David Cunliffe’s performance.

      These MPs need to front up and show themselves as brave enough to withstand the barrage of protest that will come their way when volunteer Labour supporters – all working their guts out for the party’s election campaign – find out who they are.

      I could take an educated guess who they are. But they really should show themselves to be men and not wimps by hiding behind the anonymity of “Labour spokesperson”.

      Jenny Kirk
      Former Labour MP.

      Well said Jenny.

      While the reporter’s source may not have been a parliamentarian, he was acting at the behest of a small group of ABCers. They have used a black ops. campaign – run in the first instance by Jason Ede and Cameron Slater – to further undermine David and regain their control of caucus. They have to go!

      • Richard McGrath 8.2.1

        Well said, Jenny. These Labour Party ABCers need to crawl out from under their rock and get on with the business of rolling Cunliffe… if they want Labour to stop its slide toward oblivion.

  9. Sacha 9

    “talking about the need for everyone on the left to work “hard, seamlessly, together, and well” ” – at least one party offered Labour such an arrangement and was rebuffed. Top strategy, chaps.

  10. deep throat 10

    you guys just aren’t up with it.
    haven’t you been reading the posts?
    the favourite ploy of the righties that lurk is the old I used to vote labour but now I dont because ….fill in the gaps.
    if you dont recognise irony then you are stunted persons.
    as far as being committed to the party I am totally committed but I dont see this interweb pseudo objectivity being allowed to descend into turning a blind eye to reality.
    see sometimes this place feels like a hobby project for middle class labour party would be intellectuals/media barons and you guys have to wake your ideas up.
    and I gave you the details on the contact us email but you dont seem to have read it.

    • emergency mike 10.1

      That sure is lot of concern you’ve got there.

    • Te Reo Putake 10.2

      Well, I’d have to say there’s a lot here who do get irony, dt, but if your comments are in written in a way that gives no clue that irony is intended then the mistake is not the reader’s. And of course, your line about “I used to vote …” isn’t irony, anyway, it’s parody. But, no matter.

      Try using things like fullstops, commas and quotation marks, or even smileys, so that we can know which bits are the ironical and which bits are the serious. We already have one stream of unconsciousness practitioner here busily dumbing …. down the language …

      in a way …

      that’s completely ….

      un …. reada … ble….

      (see what I did there?)

      • swordfish 10.2.1

        chrs 4 that there…trp…

        i…dunno…..d’ya reckon ?…..

        me ?……i’ve …grown…….

        accustomed… 2…

        phil…..ure’s…….

        um…..er…..creative….tendencies…..eh ..?

        he has some…ur…bits n bobs that r…ok…

        ..in his…y’know…stream of…whatsits…….

        he cd be a…poster child…

        ..for a vegan diet…I reckon…eh…?

        or…at least…he wd b a …potential customer 4……

        …an ethical…cruelty-free….

        ..meat-less…diet…then….eh…?

        …so…there ya go…!

        …but wait…!…there’s more…!

        • greywarbler 10.2.1.1

          @ swordfish 3.59
          The pen is even mightier when the swordfish has it.

      • deep throat 10.2.2

        trp.
        another one that wants to tell everyone else what to do.
        you know what I am saying so dont fudge it.
        or are you just another troll?

    • David H 10.3

      Oh DeepThroat why don’t you go back to your NAT bosses and live up to your name. Sucker!!

      • deep throat 10.3.1

        Oh stop making up lies dh.
        you just another obfuscator who cant read or comprehend anything above dat, dere, dem and dese.

        • greywarbler 10.3.1.1

          @deep throat 6.38
          What a waste of a good intellect – bang. Don’t be so touchy. You could be easier to read you know, which would be clearer for everyone else. You seem to be saying something interesting, even important, but well one can’t be sure.

          We actually don’t want to kill the bouzouki player. If I’m being too obscure I’ll explain.

  11. TeWhareWhero 11

    ‘Guys like ….Annette King …’ certainly indicates someone whose thought processes owe a bit more to his amygdala than his prefrontal cortex.

  12. ianmac 12

    This time I think No Right Turn is so wrong to promote the “self-mutilation” myth.
    It is based on what exactly? A covert mystery one person?
    Gavin Ellis on 9 to Noon gives a rousing condemnation of journalist who published without verification.
    1 How much does the source know?
    2. Does the source have a motive?
    3. Can it be verified by more than one source? Triangulate.
    Gavin reckons this item failed at all levels.
    I think NRT has also failed in this case.
    http://www.radionz.co.nz/audio/player/20142606

    • wtl 12.1

      IS at NRT has pretty much decided “everything Labour does is wrong”, it’s blatantly obvious from his recent posts. I agree that some of his posts on Labour are pretty irrational, as you’ve pointed out, but if he wants to keep being a “sucker” and falling for media spin, that’s his problem.

      • One Anonymous Bloke 12.1.1

        Pundit to pull head in, predicts partisan patron.

        Don’t be captured by media spin, accept that the left is many people with many voices and the worst possible political philosophy apart from all the other ones.

    • deep throat 12.2

      Of course it failed on all points yet it gets repeated here as gospel.
      have the editors here gone mad or are they just derelict in their duties.

    • mickysavage 12.3

      Ellis was very good. And it makes you wonder if we are getting played …

    • lprent 12.4

      Problem is that this article fits into a pattern of behaviour far too well. It is exactly the same kind of dumbarse whisper campaign from inside Labour that we have seen far too often already. I’m quite tired of it. I was tired of it at the end of 2012. I’m completely intolerant about it now.

      If Labour want to stop these anonymous leak stories then they have to do one of two things. Metaphorically stake out and burn the source(s) inside Labour or stake out the dickhead reporters making up stories and burn them. I really don’t care which.

      Even if this particular case was a dickhead reporter (which I have my doubts on), the problem was that it is a believable pattern of behaviour.

      In the meantime if I see similar stories coming out or “senior” Labour sources. I’m going to be getting blunter about the need to roast the Labour caucus and the entire Labour establishment.

      Their job is to not allow dipshits like Hipkins did in 2012 to add fuel for future flames for ‘jonolists’ years later.

      • Sacha 12.4.1

        “the problem was that it is a believable pattern of behaviour” – exactly. Everyone deserves better than this by now, surely. Lance the boil/s. Get on with winning an election.

      • john 12.4.2

        You problem is more fundamental than the leakers – it’s that you have a leader that most of the public and some MPs don’t back.

        I talked to a taxi driver yesterday who considered himself a lifetime labourite, but said he couldn’t vote for David Cunliffe.

        Like Goff and Shearer (and English), Cunliffe is probably a very capable and effective MP, but he’s simply not a leader that people will back – not many are.

        Once you find the right person, things can change quickly. Even Brash got over twice the votes and twice the percentage that National got under Bill English. And he wasn’t exactly inspiring.

        • Sacha 12.4.2.1

          “Once you find the right person, things can change quickly” – as head of strategy and communications, yes.

  13. john 13

    Most people I know didn’t see anything wrong with Cunliffe taking three days off with his children – it was a bit of a non-story.

    What is it with the trend of apologising when you haven’t done anything wrong? Key is now supposed to apologise despite having nothing to do with the Malaysian diplomat getting away.

    What could possibly do more damage for Cunliffe, is that he has now apologized for taking a very small and much needed break. It looks pretty wishy-washy and not very leader-like.

    He needs his own moral compass and to stop blowing with the wind and saying whatever he thinks people want to hear.

    • Colonial Viper 13.1

      What is it with the trend of apologising when you haven’t done anything wrong? Key is now supposed to apologise despite having nothing to do with the Malaysian diplomat getting away.

      Key’s responsibility is having not brought McCully and McCully’s performance into line, as well as doing sweet F.A. to help. That’s what Key wears as his responsibility and his fuck up to apologise for.

      And just from a general sense of humanity (hard for a sociopath I know) whose government has badly let down a young woman through BS at the state/diplomatic level.

      • vto 13.1.1

        I think he should apologise simply because the organisation he leads, the government, fucked up a serious alleged assault case on a young woman.

        Pretty bloody simple. Out here in the real world if something our organisation does had that sort of result we would immediately be on the phone trying to put things right and apologising for the damage caused.

        Problem is John Key.

        not sure what
        world he lives in
        he’s a bit weird really

        and dangerous

  14. anker 14

    John @13……..except it was written by Claire Trevitt……….I don’t believe a word she says……..

  15. Pissed off Leftie 15

    So as it looks increasingly unlikely that the Labour Party is not going to get its shit together,
    Please please do not elect Grant Fucking Robertson as leader in October

    • Kiwiri 15.1

      Grant would be too shrewd to go into the leader’s seat so quickly. Arrangements will see Parker in to hold the seat for a bit. And then, part way through an increasingly very unpopular third term National Party, Grant will declare his hand to be carried by the victorious red tide of 2017. The more the membership and broad support peals away from the Party, the better that would work out for the Parker-Grant plan.

      At the rate the rubbish of the past few weeks carry on, it would not be surprising if a shadow of doubt about Cunliffe is starting to creep upon the staunchest of Cunliffe’s supporters. Cunliffe needs to awaken his instincts and reactivate his wider source of advice and support if he wants to win for 20 Sep 2014.

  16. Foreign Waka 16

    How very sad the whole saga is. Mr Cunliffe, a great mind and very intelligent is, and never will be able to withstand the lowlifes that run the campaign of late. Young people will watch, laugh their heads off and see it for what it is. Politics driven by politics for the sake of politics and no one gives a damn about the people who loose their jobs, struggle to keep food on the table, if they have a table at all. Indeed it looks like that some want to loose the election on purpose. I wish Mr Cunliffe the best but I think he hasn’t got a show in hell, better to use the talent somewhere where it actually is wanted and needed. Sad for NZ, sad for the people who are part of the party and really try and work hard. But better to walk away, the rot has bitten too deep.

  17. Doughty 17

    For a Left/Labour orientated website most (not all) of you seem to have fallen for the rights smear campaign.
    Most of what is put out in the news are/is just a hatchet jobs on labour and it appears to be working when the party faithful begin to believe the lies. The main stream news is bias, the political reporting is bias, the polls are slanted, there is a massive amount of NLP in news articles, and a hell of a lot of manipulative Delphi technique going on, and now of course divide and rule. I’m voting Labour TWO ticks Come hell or high water, stay the course people for fuck sake.

    PS: the spelling and grammar Nazi’s, grow up there are more important issues atm

    • lprent 17.1

      I/S at No Right Turn isn’t a Labour person and doesn’t look like he ever has been. I announced my intention to party vote Green back in 2012 for exactly this type of “smear campaign” which was done by people inside Labour – in that case from a manufactured ‘coup’ that didn’t exist by people such as the whip and the leader at the time. My trust of the caucus was diminished as a direct result.

      This looks horribly familiar. As far as I am concerned as a long-time decades long Labour supporter, a party that does that type of crap to itself needs a good solid purge in its caucus. The problem with this “smear” is that it is entirely plausible to have come from inside Labour. I’m sick and tired of it.

    • Sacha 17.2

      “For a Left/Labour orientated website most (not all) of you seem to have fallen for the rights smear campaign.”

      No, some silly folk inside the tent have fallen for the FPP-style media coverage of polls, etc and are not believing their side can win. Voters tend to punish lack of confidence so it’s wastefully self-fulfilling behaviour if not promptly and decisively corrected.

      • Colonial Viper 17.2.1

        Voters tend to punish lack of confidence so it’s wastefully self-fulfilling behaviour if not promptly and decisively corrected.

        And the confidence and self-assuredness of the Labour Leader is absolutely critical, in this regard.

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  • Briefing reveals Defence facilities ‘increasingly unfit for purpose’
    The Defence Briefing to the Incoming Minister reveals a deteriorating state in Defence facilities that are no longer fit for purpose, says Labour’s Defence spokesperson Phil Goff.  “The briefing is heavily censored but still reveals that Defence camps, bases and...
    Labour | 12-11
  • New projections show New Zealand missing climate target
    Briefings to Incoming Ministers released today reveal the Government's climate policy is failing with projected emission more than double what is needed to meet National's 2050 target, the Green Party saidProjections released by the Ministry for the Environment, as part...
    Greens | 12-11
  • National’s highways far less efficient
    National’s new state highways have a far lower cost-benefit ratio than motorways built under the last Labour Government, making a mockery of the Government’s bluster that its road building will boost the economy, says Labour's Transport spokesperson Phil Twyford. “New...
    Labour | 12-11
  • Governor points finger at National on supply
    The Reserve Bank Governor has admitted he had to keep loan to value mortgage restrictions in place because the Government’s attempts to increase housing has fallen ‘a long way short’, says Labour's Housing spokesperson Phil Twyford. “The thousands of first...
    Labour | 12-11
  • Did Collins cover up Slater’s OIA requests?
    Disgraced former Cabinet Minister Judith Collins must explain why she appears to have tried to hide Official Information Act requests she fulfilled for Whale Oil blogger Cameron Slater, Labour MP Megan Woods says. “New documents obtained by Labour show Judith...
    Labour | 11-11
  • Reserve Bank’s dairy warning must be heard
    The Reserve Bank’s warning that falling dairy prices are creating greater risks for the New Zealand economy must be taken seriously by Bill English and John Key, says Labour’s Finance spokesperson David Parker. “Dairy prices have nearly halved since February...
    Labour | 11-11
  • National’s housing failure keeps LVRs in place
    The Reserve Bank’s decision to leave loan-to-value ratio mortgage restrictions in place is further confirmation of National’s housing policy fiasco, Labour’s Housing spokesperson Phil Twyford says. “The Reserve Bank would have lifted LVRs if they had seen any increase in...
    Labour | 11-11
  • Let’s see if it is plane sailing Mr Bridges
    Comments by Transport Minister Simon Bridges that Far North residents' anger over cutbacks to regional flights will be allayed by larger planes and cheaper fares out of Kerikeri, are just pure arrogance, says Labour’s Te Tai Tokerau MP Kelvin Davis....
    Labour | 11-11
  • Commerce Commission inquiry needed into building supplies monopoly
    The Commerce Commission must stop dragging the chain and urgently investigate the anti-competitive practices in the building industry that are driving up the cost of building materials, says Labour's Housing spokesperson Phil Twyford. “Competition in the building materials market is...
    Labour | 11-11
  • Air New Zealand grounds Far North
    The announcement by Air New Zealand to close services from Kaitaia to Auckland will be an absolute disaster for the Far North, Labour MP for Te Tai Tokerau Kelvin Davis says.  “Air New Zealand is sending a signal to the...
    Labour | 11-11
  • Pulling West Coast flights a savage blow
    Air New Zealand’s decision to withdraw its Westport service is another kick in the guts for an already struggling community, West Coast-Tasman MP, Damien O’Connor says.   “Having been involved in the West Coast’s efforts to get Air Nelson to return...
    Labour | 11-11
  • Air NZ cuts economic lifelines to neglected regions
    Air New Zealand’s plans to cut its Eagle Air regional services to already struggling regions is a hammer blow to Westport, Whakatane and Kaitaia, says Labour's Transport spokesperson Phil Twyford. “The regions of New Zealand are being abandoned by this...
    Labour | 11-11
  • Christchurch on the rent rack
    A jump of 20 per cent in weekly rents in the past year is a disaster for Christchurch, says Associate Housing spokesperson Poto Williams. “The Trade Me Property Rental Price index has rightly described the city as being a ‘...
    Labour | 11-11
  • Past time to act on warnings about palliative care
    Health officials have been warning the Government about a critical shortage of palliative care specialists for years, Labour’s Acting Deputy Leader and Health spokesperson Annette King says. A stocktake carried out for the Ministry of Health shows New Zealand’s end...
    Labour | 10-11
  • Report must spur Government into action
    The soaring cost of domestic violence and child abuse highlight the need for the Government to prioritise and act on the issue, says Labour's spokesperson for Social Development, Sue Moroney.“Findings from the Glenn Inquiry that show the problem is estimated...
    Labour | 10-11
  • Family safety paramount, then urgent review
    Corrections Minister Peseta Sam Lotu-Iiga has some serious questions to answer over why a dangerous prison escapee, convicted of further crimes while in jail, managed to abscond while he was on approved temporary release, Labour’s Corrections spokesperson Jacinda Ardern says.“Phillip...
    Labour | 09-11
  • LVRs a failed experiment from Bill English
    Loan to value mortgage restrictions are a failed experiment from Bill English to tame Auckland house prices, that have caused collateral damage to first home buyers and other regions, says Labour's Housing spokesperson Phil Twyford. “The possible end of LVR...
    Labour | 09-11
  • Govt books getting worse as economy slows
    National’s economic credibility is under serious scrutiny with its search for surplus becoming harder due to an economy far too reliant on the dairy industry, says Labour’s Finance spokesperson David Parker. “National promised New Zealanders would get into surplus by...
    Labour | 06-11
  • Kiwis in pain because of Government underfunding
    New research showing one in three people needing elective surgery are being denied publicly-funded operations shows the Government must properly fund the health sector, Labour’s Health spokesperson Annette King says. “For almost two years Labour has been warning about the...
    Labour | 06-11
  • National’s promised surplus looking doubtful
    Budget figures for the first quarter of the financial year released today by Treasury show the Government's goal of achieving a budget surplus is looking doubtful, the Green Party said today."National has staked its credibility on achieving a budget surplus...
    Greens | 06-11
  • Kevin Hague speaks on the Gambling Amendment Bill (No 3)
    I rise to give this speech on behalf of Denise Roche, who handles the gambling portfolio for the Green Party. This bill deals with class 4 gambling—pokies in pubs and clubs—and it is the result of changes that were suggested...
    Greens | 06-11
  • Kevin Hague speaks on the Health (Protection) Amendment Bill
    I would like to start off where the previous speaker left off, on the issue of balancing rights or balancing harms. All law is in some way a restriction of personal liberty. That is the point of law. When we...
    Greens | 06-11
  • Joyce backs away from yet another target
    Steven Joyce has backed away from two targets in two days, refusing to acknowledge that his Government has an unambitious aim to get unemployment down to 4 per cent in 11 years’ time, says Labour Associate Finance spokesperson David Clark....
    Labour | 06-11
  • Pacific peoples incomes and jobs falling under National
    The Minister of Pacific Peoples is attempting to bury the ugly facts of Pacific unemployment and income levels worsening since National took office in 2008, said Labour’s Pacific Affairs spokesperson, Su’a William Sio. “If the Minister doesn’t acknowledge how bad...
    Labour | 06-11
  • The Block NZ doing a better job than Nick Smith
    Nick Smith should consider calling in producers of The Block NZ with participants in the TV series completing more houses in two seasons than the Government’s failed Special Housing Area policy, says Labour's Housing spokesperson Phil Twyford. “The Block NZ...
    Labour | 06-11
  • Meridian moves to kill competition from solar homes
    Big electricity companies are using their power to make it harder for families and businesses wanting to go solar and the National Government is doing nothing to help them, the Green Party said today. Meridian Energy announced today a 60-72...
    Greens | 06-11
  • Has John Key done all he could for Pike families?
    It will be forever on the conscience of John Key whether he did all he could to recover the remains of the 29 miners who died in Pike River, Labour’s MP for West Coast-Tasman Damien O’Connor says.  “The Prime Minister...
    Labour | 05-11
  • National further dashes hopes of new parents
    The National Government has once again shown its disdain for working parents by voting down proposals to extend paid parental leave, Labour MP Sue Moroney says.  “The Government vetoed an amended proposal that substantially reduced the cost of extending PPL...
    Labour | 05-11
  • GUEST BLOG: Anjum Rahman – what are they afraid of: the erosion of democ...
    Today the Hamilton City Council has put on a big party to celebrate the 150th anniversary of European colonisation of the area.  There have been a series of events during the year to mark this event, including a civic ceremony. ...
    The Daily Blog | 22-11
  • #JohnKeyHistory
    John Key has done it again. This week our lovely Prime Minister has showed us how little he knows about the history of the country he is supposed to be running. Apparently “New Zealand was settled peacefully”. Was it really?...
    The Daily Blog | 22-11
  • G20 growth targets and growth model offer more problems than they solve
    At the recent G20 in Brisbane, member countries agreed to accelerate growth to an additional 2% on top of current trajectories. But ongoing public sector cuts, asset sales, and reducing workers’ rights indicate that at least part of the growth...
    The Daily Blog | 22-11
  • GUEST BLOG: Bill Courtney – Charter Schools: The Shroud of Secrecy Contin...
    The Ministry of Education yesterday released another batch of information relating to the five existing charter schools and the four new ones proposed for opening in 2015. As we have seen before, the release of such information, often requested under...
    The Daily Blog | 22-11
  • EXCLUSIVE: Campaign reflection, Laila Harré reaching out for radical minds
    Today I’ve announced that I will be stepping down from the Internet Party leadership in December. This will happen once options for the future have been developed for discussion and decision among members. My absolute focus in this election was...
    The Daily Blog | 21-11
  • The Ebola crisis, capitalism and the Cuban medical revolution
    “Ebola emerged nearly 40 years ago. Why are clinicians still empty-handed, with no vaccines and no cure? Because Ebola has been, historically, geographically confined to poor African nations. The R&D incentive is virtually non-existent. A profit-driven industry does not invest...
    The Daily Blog | 21-11
  • MEDIA WATCH: TVNZ Reveals Insane Deadlines For Māori and Pacific Island Pr...
    Last Tuesday, November 18th, TVNZ requested proposals from producers for the four Māori and Pacific Island programmes they will no longer be making in-house. Marae, Waka Huia, Fresh and Tagata Pasifika will keep their existing names, existing formats and existing...
    The Daily Blog | 21-11
  • The Daily Blog Breakfast Club Ep. 1
    TDB Video, Live from Verona Cafe on K-Rd, Auckland – a weekly current affairs show with TDB Editor Martyn Bradbury. This week’s panel: Chris Trotter & Selwyn Manning.The issues: 1 – What now for the New Labour leader? 2 –...
    The Daily Blog | 21-11
  • Performance-demonstration at Auckland’s High Court to demand justice for ...
    People outraged at the lack of justice in the so-called ‘Roast Busters’ case and 99% of other rape cases in this country are holding a visually powerful mass action at the Auckland High Court at 1 o’clock on Saturday. They...
    The Daily Blog | 21-11
  • IES vote may weaken defense of public education
    PPTA announced today that secondary teachers have voted to include the IES (Investing in Education Success) as a variation to their collective employment agreement with the government. At one level it’s an understandable decision by PPTA members because through engaging in a consultation...
    The Daily Blog | 21-11
  • NZ History lesson on Planet Key – the lies white people tell themselves
    John Key’s bizarre claims about our ‘peaceful history’ comes across like the apartheid history of South Africa where white people discovered Africa first… New Zealand ‘settled peacefully’ – PM New Zealand was “settled peacefully” by the British, the prime minister...
    The Daily Blog | 20-11
  • Universal Basic Income and Labour Policy
    On Radio New Zealand’s None-to-Noon on Wednesday (19 November), new Labour leader Andrew Little intimated that he would like to put Universal Basic Income (UBI) on his policy agenda (What policy changes will Andrew Little usher in?) Predictably Kathryn Ryan, despite being...
    The Daily Blog | 20-11
  • The New Notes : They Ain’t Mint
    Hulk Queen Angry. Hulk Queen smash.   Yesterday, the Reserve Bank announced its new designs for our banknotes. Now, I’ve historically been pretty sketch about this entire process; variously feeling affronted that the government could find eighty million dollars to fund a...
    The Daily Blog | 20-11
  • MSM under-mining of new Labour Leader already begun?
    . . It did not take long. In fact, on the same day that Andrew Little won the Labour leadership*, the first media reporter was already asking if he would be stepping down  if Labour failed to lift in the...
    The Daily Blog | 20-11
  • GUEST BLOG: Simon Buckingham – invisible disability voices
    Today I am ranting. The Disability Advisory Group has been announced by Auckland Council. This is the body that represents the interests and views of people with disabilities in Auckland. Whilst I would not have applied this time as I...
    The Daily Blog | 20-11
  • Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking rant on Radio Hauraki: Today, Andrew Little
    Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking rant on Radio Hauraki: Today, Andrew Little...
    The Daily Blog | 20-11
  • Why labelling Little as a ‘Unionist’ is a joke and how he beats Key in ...
    The line being used to attack Andrew Little as a ‘Unionist’ is just an absurd joke, and it comes from people who clearly don’t understand the modern NZ Union movement. Andrew ran the EPM Bloody U, they are easily one...
    The Daily Blog | 19-11
  • 5AA Australia – Labour’s New Leader + China’s President In New Zealan...
    Recorded on 20/11/14 – Captured Live on Ustream.tv. 5AA’s Peter Godfrey and Selwyn Manning.ISSUE ONE: The New Zealand Labour Party has elected its new leader, the vote going to a third round after no clear outright winner was found in...
    The Daily Blog | 19-11
  • Did Roger Sutton think he was running the Rock Radio Station?
    Visible G-String Fridays? Full body hugs? Jokes about who you would and wouldn’t have sex with? Honey? Sweety? It’s like Roger thought he was running the Rock Radio Station, not a Government Public Service department set up to rebuild a...
    The Daily Blog | 19-11
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    The Daily Blog | 19-11
  • Amnesty International – The conversation that needs to be had with China
    Caption: Police officer watching Hong Kong pro-democracy march, 01 July 2014 © Amnesty International    Yesterday’s edition of The New Zealand Herald features an open letter to all New Zealander’s from Xi Jinping, President of the People’s Republic of China. Along...
    The Daily Blog | 19-11
  • GUEST BLOG: Patrick O’Dea – “Liar”
    LIAR! ‘Privatised social housing to benefit tenants’ English “Housing Corp was a poor performer and about a third of its housing stock was the wrong size, in poor condition and in the wrong place. That stock was worth about $5...
    The Daily Blog | 19-11
  • Too Close For Comfort: Reflections on Andrew Little’s narrow victory over...
    THE TRAGIC SCREENSHOT of “Gracinda” in defeat bears eloquent testimony to the bitter disappointment of the Grant Robertson-led faction of the Labour Party. And, yes, ‘Party’ is the right word. The Robertson machine has now extended its influence well beyond...
    The Daily Blog | 19-11
  • How to defeat child poverty
      How to defeat child poverty...
    The Daily Blog | 18-11
  • Little’s Shadow Cabinet
    Now the horror of trying to pacify the factions begins. The only thing Little’s new shadow cabinet must do is create the pretence of unity. The reason voters didn’t flock to Labour wasn’t the bloody CGT or Superannuation, it was...
    The Daily Blog | 18-11
  • A pilgrimage with my sister – Rethink the System
    We’ve both wanted to do a pilgrimage for many years. But, unlike many modern pilgrims, we wanted to be pilgirms in our own country and get closer to our communities, rather than seek greater distance from them. We are both...
    The Daily Blog | 18-11
  • Lack of policy ambition is Andrew Little’s main problem
    I’ve met Andrew Little a few times and he’s a pleasant man who will make a reasonable job leading what the Labour Party has become in recent decades. He will preside over a much less divided caucus and will be...
    The Daily Blog | 18-11
  • Journos, film makers, media freedom advocates join Asia-Pacific political j...
    A candlelight vigil for the 58 victims of the 2009 Maguindanao massacre – 32 of them media people. Still no justice for them today. Renowned investigative journalists, film makers, academics and media freedom campaigners from across the Asia-Pacific region will...
    The Daily Blog | 18-11
  • And the new Labour Leader is ZZZZZZZZZZ
    The victory lap by Caucus over the members choice of Cunliffe has ended and the new leader of the Labour Party is Andrew Little. Yawn. The dullness and caution of the latest Leadership race will be served well by Andrew,...
    The Daily Blog | 18-11
  • Allow the Facts to Get in the Way of the Neolib Stories
    One of the weaknesses of the political left in New Zealand over the last 30 years has been to allow the neoliberal storytellers to get away with lots of fibs and half-fibs. On TVNZ’s Q+A on 16 November, in a...
    The Daily Blog | 17-11
  • Defending The Boomers: A Response to Chloe King
    THE BABY-BOOM GENERATION (49-68 year-olds) currently numbers just under a quarter of New Zealand’s population. Even so, there is a pervasive notion that the generation of New Zealanders born between the end of World War II and the mid-1960s exercises...
    The Daily Blog | 17-11
  • This weeks Waatea news column – Waitangi Tribunal ruling enshrines Treaty...
      This weeks Waatea news column – Waitangi Tribunal ruling enshrines Treaty as a living document...
    The Daily Blog | 16-11
  • Key now says SAS will be needed to protect ‘trainers’ behind the wire
    Well, well, well. What do we have here? Government could send SAS to Iraq New Zealand’s elite Special Air Service (SAS) could be deployed to Iraq to protect Kiwi troops sent to train local forces. Prime Minister John Key confirmed...
    The Daily Blog | 16-11
  • Do You Want to Build a Meth Lab? (Frozen x Breaking Bad Parody)
    Do You Want to Build a Meth Lab? (Frozen x Breaking Bad Parody)...
    The Daily Blog | 16-11
  • Soft soap for the rich – harsh taxes for the poor
    It’s no surprise to see New Zealand has one of the world’s lowest tax rates for the rich and the superrich. A survey by the global accounting network UHY shows New Zealand’s highest tax rates are lower than even Australia,...
    The Daily Blog | 16-11
  • Phillip Smith and the rehabilitation process
    The dominant media narrative in horrible murder cases is that the perpetrator is unlikely ever to be rehabilitated. When it appears the offender may get parole the media turns first to family members of the victim who commonly (and understandably)...
    The Daily Blog | 16-11
  • The Nation review: Finlayson’s terrifying definition of who is on terror ...
    Terrifying Nation today on TV3. Chris Finlayson is on justifying the Government’s Muslim fear mongering and extension of even more surveillance powers. It was jaw dropping. Finlayson says ‘alienated people with a chip on their shoulder’ is the threshold to get...
    The Daily Blog | 14-11
  • A brief word on The Block NZ
    Is it just me or did The Block manage to sum up everything that is wrong about our culture and economy? Fetishised property speculation as mass entertainment in a country of homelessness & poverty. I wonder if State House tenants...
    The Daily Blog | 14-11
  • Waitangi Tribunal ruling
    That spluttering choking sound of a thousand rednecks being informed Maori still have sovereignty is a hilarious cacophony of stupid… Crown still in charge: Minister Chris Finlayson on Waitangi Treaty ruling The Waitangi Tribunal’s finding that Maori chiefs who signed...
    The Daily Blog | 14-11
  • A brief word on Phillip Smith
    We can arrest student loan & fine defaulters at the airport – but not convicted child molesting killers? Before we ban manufactured ISIS ‘terrorists’ from having passports, how about we just manage to stop child molesting killers from fleeing first?...
    The Daily Blog | 14-11
  • Free Me From Religion
          The meeting begins – or at least it’s supposed to begin – but someone interrupts proceedings. She wants everyone to pray with their heads bowed while she can “thank our Father who art in Heaven.” I close...
    The Daily Blog | 14-11
  • Key capitulates on TPPA while big money NZ set up propaganda fund
    So Key has capitulated on the ‘gold standard’ of free trade deals… The primary objective for New Zealand at Apec was to see some urgency injected into the TPP talks and to keep leaders aiming for a high quality deal....
    The Daily Blog | 13-11
  • Why Phillip Smith is the least of our worries
    Well, it turns out Phillip Smith wasn’t half as clever as he thought he was, and he’s been arrested within a week. If the Prime Minister is through with making tasteless jokes, perhaps we can ramp down the media hysteria...
    The Daily Blog | 13-11
  • Constraining Credibility
      Most economists and members of the public – on both the right and the left – believe that economies are constrained by resource scarcity most of the time. In this view, economies are supply-constrained, and that the economic problem...
    The Daily Blog | 13-11
  • Migrant Labour, exploitation and free markets
    Once more we read about a horror story of virtual slavery for a migrant worker in a restaurant in Christchurch. The silver lining that in this case compensation should be paid is not assured. Often in situations like this the employer winds up...
    The Daily Blog | 13-11
  • On baby boomers who give my generation unhelpful advice: JUST DON’T
    One of my mum’s colleagues recently told her that there is no money in what her daughter was doing; volunteering at a women’s refuge and writing on politics. This guy, dispensing all his pearls of wisdom, told my mother that...
    The Daily Blog | 13-11
  • Morbid Symptoms: Can Labour Be Born Anew?
    THE CHAIRS in the final meeting venue have been stacked away. All that expensive signage, commissioned for the benefit of the television cameras, no longer has a purpose. For the second time in just 14 months, Labour’s Leadership Contest is...
    The Daily Blog | 12-11
  • What’s Small, White, and Having Trouble Attracting New People?
    If your answer was something intimately connected to the person of Peter Dunne … then you’d be right. Last night, P-Dunney decided to bring his comedy and/or hair stylings to the twitterverse; penning a potentially somewhat ill-advised tweet in which he compared...
    The Daily Blog | 12-11
  • LATE at the Auckland Museum review – Slacktivisim: Its not just for Slack...
    Monday night is my yoga night. I’m not really very good it, I don’t really have the bendy, but I made a New Years resolution. This Monday however, I decided to put the yoga on prone and attend a gig...
    The Daily Blog | 12-11
  • This weeks Waatea news column – Nanaia Mahuta – the Princess who roared
      This weeks Waatea news column – Nanaia Mahuta – the Princess who roared...
    The Daily Blog | 11-11
  • Patrick Gower interviews Laila Harre
    Patrick Gower interviews Laila Harre Headlines: Laila Harre to quit as Internet Party leader by Christmas when the party has completed its review, but would love to return to parliament Says party considering options for its future including winding...
    Scoop politics | 22-11
  • Lisa Owen interviews Labour leader Andrew Little
    Lisa Owen interviews Labour leader Andrew Little Headlines: Andrew Little says the shape of his front-bench for the 2017 election may not be clear until the end of next year Indicates next week’s appointments may be temporary: “So I may...
    Scoop politics | 22-11
  • Phillip John Smith – statement
    Police and the New Zealand Embassy in Brasilia are aware of a decision from the Brazil Federal Court requiring the deportation of Phillip Smith within 10 days. Further assessment is required to ensure there is a full understanding of this...
    Scoop politics | 22-11
  • Green’s ‘not speaking out about human rights abuses in China
    Right to Life challenges Russell Norman the co-leader of the Green Party to explain why, he was prepared to ask Prime Minister John Key to talk to Chinese President Xi Jinping about human rights abuses in countries bordering China but...
    Scoop politics | 21-11
  • Goodfellow congratulates Key on IDU election
    Goodfellow congratulates Key on IDU election National Party President Peter Goodfellow has congratulated Prime Minister John Key on his election today as Chairman of the International Democrat Union (IDU)....
    Scoop politics | 21-11
  • Taxpayers’ Union Congratulates PM on IDU Appointment
    The Taxpayers’ Union is today congratulating Rt. Hon. John Key on becoming the Chair of the International Democrat Union , as former Australian Prime Minister John Howard retires from the role after 12 years. Taxpayers’ Union Executive Director...
    Scoop politics | 21-11
  • High demand for Consumer NZ’s “Do Not Knock” stickers
    Consumer NZ has distributed nearly 100,000 “Do Not Knock” stickers since the launch of its campaign to fight back against dodgy door-to-door sellers.The “Do Not Knock” campaign was launched on 3 November 2014. Free “Do Not Knock” stickers...
    Scoop politics | 21-11
  • Phillip Smith decision still pending
    Detective Superintendent Mike Pannett is returning to Washington DC where he will continue to closely monitor a pending decision from the Brazilian authorities on the process to return Phillip Smith to New Zealand....
    Scoop politics | 21-11
  • High Court demonstration to demand justice
    People outraged at the lack of justice in the so-called ‘Roast Busters’ case and 99% of other rape cases in this country are holding a visually powerful mass action at the Auckland High Court at 1 o’clock on Saturday. They...
    Scoop politics | 21-11
  • NZ Society Wins Global Award For Fighting Animal Testing
    New Zealand banning animal testing of legal highs has been acknowledged with an award given in London. The New Zealand Anti-Vivisection Society (NZAVS) was awarded the 2014 LUSH Prize for lobbying against animal testing. The prize was given at the...
    Scoop politics | 21-11
  • Poor govt advice to workers on petrol station drive-offs
    The New Zealand Council of Trade Unions has raised concerns with the Ministry of Business, Innovation and Employment ('MBIE') regarding their reported advice to workers about the petrol station drive away issue....
    Scoop politics | 21-11
  • New Ombudsman opinion
    The Ombudsman has published his opinion on a complaint concerning the Police refusal to release information about a charging decision....
    Scoop politics | 20-11
  • Kindergarten support staff achieve pay rise in tough climate
    The valuable contribution of kindergarten support staff has been recognised with a pay increase, despite the significant funding cuts that the kindergarten associations are experiencing....
    Scoop politics | 20-11
  • Democracy and Conservative Religion: The Case of Islam
    “Is Islam compatible with democracy?” is a frequently-asked question. Recent rethinking of secularism and democracy have opened up new possibilities to think about religion and democracy. This question is important particularly in the case...
    Scoop politics | 20-11
  • NZ fiscal watchdog needed to guard the public purse
    New Zealand needs tighter fiscal rules and an independent watchdog to improve the quality of government spending and reduce the risk of a return to deficit spending as the country’s population ages, if not before....
    Scoop politics | 20-11
  • NZSMI disappointed ANZTPA proposal shelved
    November 20, 2014: Consumer healthcare products industry body, the New Zealand Self-Medication Industry Association (SMI) says it is disappointed Government has once again shelved plans to create one medicines regulatory agency for both New Zealand and Australia....
    Scoop politics | 20-11
  • Democracy Action Welcomes Tauranga Vote
    Responding to Tauranga Council’s unanimous vote not to establish separate Council seats on the basis of ethnicity, Lee Short, Democracy Action founder says: “The establishment of a Maori ward would have damaged the relationship between Maori and...
    Scoop politics | 20-11
  • Employer caught abusing new ‘teabreaks law’
    Employer caught abusing new ‘teabreaks law’ to exploit workers The government passed the controversial ‘teabreaks’ legislation only a few weeks ago and already Unite Union has caught an employer using this law as an excuse for ill-treating their...
    Scoop politics | 20-11
  • FGC response to Commerce Commission report
    The New Zealand Food & Grocery Council is not surprised by the Commerce Commission’s findings, given New Zealand’s current legal framework....
    Scoop politics | 20-11
  • Bascand: Brighter Money
    Seeing people’s initial reactions to the new banknote designs is a heartening reminder of what an important role currency plays in our lives, and what a sense of pride and heritage our notes evoke....
    Scoop politics | 20-11
  • RBNZ releases Brighter Money designs
    New Zealand’s banknotes are getting brighter and better, with the Reserve Bank today unveiling more vibrant and secure banknote designs which will progressively enter circulation later next year....
    Scoop politics | 20-11
  • 25 years of children’s rights
    UNICEF and OFC celebrate 25 years of children’s rights with Just Play Sports Days On Universal Children’s Day (20 November) and as part of the Oceania Football Confederation’s (OFC) inaugural President’s Cup, UNICEF will celebrate 25 years of children’s...
    Scoop politics | 20-11
  • Xiamen delegation to Wellington has business focus
    Stronger business, education and cultural ties with our Chinese partners will be the focus when a 20-strong government and business delegation led by Xiamen Mayor Mr Liu Keqing which visits Wellington tomorrow (Friday) and Saturday as part of the...
    Scoop politics | 19-11
  • Warriors promote White Ribbon Day message
    Warriors promote White Ribbon Day message Shine and Orakei Health Services On Tuesday, the Vodafone Warriors will promote the White Ribbon Day message to the community at Eastridge Shopping Centre, Mission Bay. The Warriors are supporting their charity...
    Scoop politics | 19-11
  • Superannuitants to protest unethical investments
    A delegation of Auckland superannuitants will deliver a protest-card petition and protest letter to the New Zealand Super Fund this Thursday afternoon to call on the fund to divest from companies which support the Israeli occupation of Palestinian...
    Scoop politics | 19-11
  • Manukau job cuts ‘running the place into the ground’
    Manukau Institute of Technology (MIT) confirmed to its staff yesterday that 54 jobs will go before Christmas....
    Scoop politics | 19-11
  • Newcore Looks Pretty Rotten for Ratepayers
    Responding to the NZ Herald report that the IT system commissioned by Auckland Council to consolidate the eight systems the Super City inherited from its precursor councils could be facing a budget blowout of $100 million, Taxpayers’ Union Spokesman Ben...
    Scoop politics | 19-11
  • Accountability following quake response inquiry not achieved
    Lessons still need to be learned from the search and rescue efforts following the February 2011 earthquake in Christchurch, a leading New Zealand lawyer, Nigel Hampton QC, says....
    Scoop politics | 19-11
  • Our kids say: We are failing in our duty to protect them
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    Scoop politics | 19-11
  • PARS & Turuki Health Care collaborate on health and services
    Auckland-based PARS (People at Risk Solutions) have partnered with the Turuki Health Care Trust, to offer improved healthcare services to those in need. PARS works closely with former prisoners, providing mentoring, housing, and social services to ensure...
    Scoop politics | 19-11
  • Children’s Plea
    A plea has been sent to all Members of Parliament, regardless of party affiliation, to accord urgency and priority to children's issues. These issues include vulnerability, safety and childhood poverty....
    Scoop politics | 19-11
  • Treasury off track in search for sound policies
    Treasury is unlikely to find the ideas it is looking for to improve outcomes for children while its primary driver is cost-cutting, says Child Poverty Action Group....
    Scoop politics | 19-11
  • Commission calls for answers on handling of CERA harassment
    EEO Commissioner Dr Jackie Blue is deeply concerned about the way in which the State Services Commission has handled sexual allegations made against CERA chief executive Roger Sutton this week and is calling for answers....
    Scoop politics | 19-11
  • Ashley Dwayne Guy v The Queen: Appeal Upheld
    The appellant, Mr Guy, was found guilty by a jury of a charge of sexual violation by unlawful sexual connection. After the verdict it was discovered that, by error, the jury had been provided in the jury room with two...
    Scoop politics | 19-11
  • Zonta Club to Take a Stand Against Gender-Based Violence
    During the 16 Days of Activism against Gender Violence (25 November – 10 December), the Zonta Club of Wellington, along with members of the local community, will join nearly 1,200 Zonta clubs in 67 countries for the Zonta Says NO...
    Scoop politics | 19-11
  • New UNFPA report links progress and power to young people
    A UN report launched today calls for investment in young people as they are essential to social and economic progress....
    Scoop politics | 19-11
  • The Resignation with the Golden Handshake?
    Commenting on the settlement the State Services Commission has reached with former CERA CEO Roger Sutton, Taxpayers’ Union Executive Director, Jordan Williams, says: "Only in the public sector do you receive a payout for ‘resigning’....
    Scoop politics | 18-11
  • NZ must not turn a blind eye to China’s human rights record
    Amnesty International is calling on New Zealand’s Prime Minister John Key to raise China’s shameful human rights record during President Xi Jinping’s visit to New Zealand this week....
    Scoop politics | 18-11
  • The Resignation with the Golden Handshake?
    Commenting on the settlement the State Services Commission has reached with former CERA CEO Roger Sutton, Taxpayers’ Union Executive Director, Jordan Williams, says:...
    Scoop politics | 18-11
  • Treasury’s covert & extremely odd welfare consultation
    A report this morning that Treasury is ‘crowd sourcing’ ideas on welfare policy is news to Auckland Action Against Poverty, even though we are currently one of the most active groups in the area....
    Scoop politics | 18-11
  • NZ invites Pacific peers to review development cooperation
    New Zealand has volunteered to be the first development partner in the Pacific region to undergo a review of its aid programme by Pacific island peers. The review will focus on New Zealand’s development cooperation and will give greater insight...
    Scoop politics | 18-11
  • EPMU joins Pike River families to mark fourth anniversary
    Representatives of the Engineering, Printing and Manufacturing Union are proud to stand with the Pike River families to mark four years since 29 men lost their lives. “This is a particularly solemn day given the recent announcements of Solid Energy...
    Scoop politics | 18-11
  • 2013 Assessment of New Zealand’s National Integrity Systems
    SPEAKER TUILOMA NERONI SLADE: Former Judge, International Criminal Court in the Hague, former legal counsel at the Commonwealth Secretariat, Secretary-General of the Pacific Islands Forum 2008-2014. Introduced by Helen Sutch, Victoria University Council,...
    Scoop politics | 18-11
  • Green Party ignoring Waimea’s environmental benefits
    Green Party MP Catherine Delahunty has overlooked the environmental benefits the proposed Waimea Community Dam will bring the Tasman community, says IrrigationNZ Chairperson Nicky Hyslop....
    Scoop politics | 18-11
  • Women’s use of violence in violent relationships
    More than 80 percent of women who live with a physically violent partner will not initiate violence when they are not being hit, according to new research....
    Scoop politics | 18-11
  • Poor credit rating linked to poor cardiovascular health
    Poor credit rating linked to poor cardiovascular health A credit score doesn’t only boil down a person’s entire financial history to a single number and somehow predict their credit-worthiness, it might also be saying something about a person’s...
    Scoop politics | 18-11
  • State Services Commissioner on Roger Sutton Investigation
    State Services Commissioner Iain Rennie today said the investigation into Roger Sutton’s conduct was robust. Roger Sutton chose to resign as Chief Executive of the Canterbury Earthquake Recovery Authority (CERA) yesterday....
    Scoop politics | 18-11
  • Predator Free NZ project welcomed
    Federated Farmers and the conservation organisation Forest & Bird are welcoming the Predator Free New Zealand initiative as an ambitious but achievable project that will have real benefits for conservation and the economy....
    Scoop politics | 18-11
  • Stock rustling set to continue under lax laws
    The theft and illegal slaughter of farm stock can only be expected to continue if tougher laws are not introduced, said ACT Leader David Seymour today....
    Scoop politics | 18-11
  • Visit of President Xi Jinping to New Zealand
    As president Xi Jinping of China pays short visit to New Zealand, of Friends of Tibet (NZ) has called upon Foreign Minister Hon Murray McCully and the Prime Minister Rt Hon John Key to raise the issue of Human Rights...
    Scoop politics | 18-11
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