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NRT: A circus of self-mutilation

Written By: - Date published: 9:47 am, July 22nd, 2014 - 103 comments
Categories: accountability, election 2014, labour, Left, Politics - Tags:

no-right-turn-256Reposted from No Right Turn.

The political weekend: the Greens announce serious, sensible, and popular policy, Internet-Mana packs out another public meeting, andLabour’s self-mutilation continues:

However, Labour MPS are disgusted by Cunliffe’s skiing holiday just two months before the election and will question his work ethic at a caucus meeting on Tuesday, a senior party insider said.

Labour is trailing National by 30 percentage points, polling just 24.9 per cent in the latest Stuff-Ipsos poll.

“A lot of MPs are really f….. off about it,” the insider said.

“They are all working hard up and down the country, and f…… Cunliffe is on holiday. Guys like [Phil] Goff and [Annette] King and [David] Shearer, these guys really want it badly and they are working like their lives depend on it. And I think they are a little incredulous about what the guy is doing.”

Yes, faced with an election they’re trying to convince us they need to win or National will privatise your kidneys and sell your children to a charter school, Labour’s “senior insiders” are sabotaging their own campaign and focusing on positioning themselves for the post-loss leadership struggle. Why would anyone vote for such a clown-show? More importantly, why would anyone volunteer for them? They’re clearly not worth the time and effort.

Meanwhile, Labour hacks are talking about the need for everyone on the left to work “hard, seamlessly, together, and well” (meaning “STFU and stop criticising Labour”). But its clear which party isn’t pulling its weight here. The Greens are on track to equal or better their 2011 performance. Internet-Mana is doing so well even John Armstrong has to notice. If the left loses this election, it will be because of Labour.

103 comments on “NRT: A circus of self-mutilation”

  1. Sable 1

    Labour are not really a left leaning party anymore. Their biggest shortcoming is they are trying to be an every-man party and they are predictably failing as there have no clear message and as a result no clear consensus from voters as to why they should vote Labour. Except perhaps that they voted Labour in the past which is not necessarily a good reason to do so in the future.

    I would never once have voted for anyone else. I come from a working class background of people who helped found what became Labour in Blackball once upon a time. Now I have not idea who Labour is or what they stand for. They seem on the one hand to want to be a socialist party but on the other hand have neo liberal aspirations which are at odds.

    I think this shows when it comes time for an election. You have factionalism breaking out with core Labour politicians at odds with the “new breed” of business focused Labourites. The fact is this is a “Labour” party not a business party. Those who want neo liberalism to thrive should really leave and join National.

    Yet here we are. I personally believe Labour as a party are finished. The Greens are professional, have good policy and are forward thinking. This is why I defected. Well to be honest I walked away from Labour back in mid 80’s when Lange’s government in my opinion betrayed everything Labour stood and moved over to the Alliance. I feel little has changed since.

    Labour will loose this election and with it they will loose any remaining credibility. I suspect in years to come the Greens will take their place and they will become a minor presence on the NZ political landscape.

    • swordfish 1.1

      Good old Blackball !!!

      Despite rose-tinted mythology to the contrary, Labour didn’t do particularly well in most West Coast mining towns until after the Great Depression. But there were 3 or 4 mining strongholds where Labour (and before it, the SDP) did indeed do spectacularly well right from the start – and Blackball was pre-eminent amongst them. The Left were winning Blackball overwhelmingly from WWI on.

      (slightly off-topic, I know. But I simply could nae resist a little stroll down memory-lane. Always good to remember the Lefties that came before us).

      • DS 1.1.1

        Labour won Buller from 1919 onwards. The other electorate (Westland) was held by Richard Seddon’s son for the Liberals into the 1920s. King Dick ran a pub on the Coast, remember, and people remembered him fondly.

        • swordfish 1.1.1.1

          True, DS.

          Although, if I was being pedantic, I’d say one of Labour’s precursor parties (the SDP – and, specifically, Paddy Webb) actually won the Grey seat in a pre-WWI By-Election, retained the seat at the 1914 General Election, and then (after Webb was jailed for refusing military service) soon-to-be Labour Party leader, Harry Holland won it for Labour in a 1918 By-Election and then took Buller in 1919, holding it until his death. (for quite a while, there were 3 seats on the West Coast, Buller in the north, Grey in the centre, and Westland in the south).

          Historically, there’s been a North-South divide to political loyalties on the West Coast. If you take the major towns, for instance, the most northern – Westport was always (at least from the Great Depression) overwhelmingly Labour (and it’s still the most Left-friendly of the Coast’s larger towns), Reefton (second most northerly) was usually strongly-but-not-overwhelmingly Labour, Greymouth’s usual colour was orange rather than red (ie marginal-to-moderately-strong Labour) and the most southern of the bigger towns, Hokitika, was usually the mirror image of Greymouth (marginal National). So not entirely surprising that Westland (Hokitika + the mainly rural southern two-thirds of Westland) remained out of Labour’s grasp for quite some time. If I remember rightly, though, it was usually a pretty closely fought contest in Westland. The secondary town of Ross was always Labour-leaning.

          But what struck me when I was analysing the booth-by-booth stats back in the 90s was that, despite the general assumption of historians that the mining towns were staunchly left-leaning/Socialist from the start, it was much more complex than that. The SDP and then Labour tended to do pretty well in some of the smaller mining towns, but were not particularly strong in the larger ones until the Great Depression caused a bit of a ideological upheaval. Blackball was one of a small group of towns that comprised a Left bastion pretty much from the start.

    • greywarbler 1.2

      @Sable
      I hope your prognosis is as incorrect as your spelling is loose.

    • Draco T Bastard 1.3

      Their biggest shortcoming is they are trying to be an every-man party and they are predictably failing as there have no clear message and as a result no clear consensus from voters as to why they should vote Labour.

      It’s not so much that they’re trying to be an every man party but that they’re still kowtowing to the rich while trying to be an every man party. They’re saying Yes, we’re going to change everything while keeping it the same for these select few just doesn’t work and comes across as being totally false.

    • David H 1.4

      Nice essay, but you really need to know the difference between LOSE and Loose. Clue: one of them means your pants are falling down.

      http://www.ross.net/notes/loose.shtml

      This is worse than the Moron/Moran debacle.

    • Murray Olsen 1.5

      I broadly agree with your analysis of the present Labour Party, but I think it will be Greens and Mana together who will take over from them. Mana have inherited the old radical social democratic values that Labour used to hold, while the Greens will be strong as a response to a different world view which we must develop. I think Mana and Greens are complementary in many ways.

      If the election is lost, it will be due to the pseudo-ACT MPs in Labour and the inability of the left wing to counter them. However, I hope we will win. I just hope we don’t have to depend on Winston First. I’d hate that :-(

  2. greywarbler 2

    This is today’s heading in Radionz News.

    Labour leader David Cunliffe plans a comeback ( 7′ 35″ )

    07:36 The Labour Leader David Cunliffe insists he is leading a united team and says he has no plans to hunt down the person who sparked headlines by criticising his three-day skiing holiday last week.

    If I found who spoke to a ‘source’ that person’s nose would be like tomato sauce. Violence is justified occasionally with adults. And it is all some understand. It can be more efficacious than words of sorrow and instruction or appealing to the person’s better nature. Which supposes they have one.

    Or perhaps a split lip would be more appropriate.

    • Pete 2.1

      Violence is justified occasionally with adults

      Unless you’re defending yourself or someone else from immediate physical harm (and I don’t mean the economic and social harm of a right-wing government), I’m going to have to disagree with you there. Use your words.

      • greywarbler 2.1.1

        @Pete
        I am defending myself and a lot of others too when I suggest a bloody nose. Perhaps I’ll get Trevor Mallard to carry out the punishment, though self flagellation it may be.

    • Richard McGrath 2.2

      “I walked away from Labour back in mid 80′s when Lange’s government in my opinion betrayed everything Labour stood and moved over to the Alliance. I feel little has changed since.”

      Sable, I’m curious as to why you would shift away from the Alliance – they are still a registered political party here. They haven’t deviated from their far left socialism, and I thought they would have lots of fans from the readership of this group.

      I agree with you that Labour are finished… Cunliffe never had the testicular fortitude to dump all free market policies, cannabilise Alliance policies and distance Labour from National.

    • Richard McGrath 2.3

      Violence against others, or the desire to inflict it, has always been an integral part of leftist activism. I’m sure there are non-violent ways of settling the situation you describe, such as enforcing a contract and expelling the person concerned from the party. You don’t have to resort to thuggery.

      • felix 2.3.1

        “Violence against others, or the desire to inflict it, has always been an integral part of leftist activism. “

        In the entire history of left vs right protest/industrial action in NZ, how many have been killed by those on the left?

        • Richard McGrath 2.3.1.1

          I have no idea, I haven’t been keeping a tally. Perhaps someone here might have that information. There has been a lot of less serious injury and property damage caused by protestors over the years.

          • felix 2.3.1.1.1

            The answer is none.

            And by those on the right?

            • Colonial Viper 2.3.1.1.1.1

              Thank you Felix. The global neoliberal movement which have caused untold numbers of deaths. Fuckers.

              • Richard McGrath

                As opposed to global communism which only killed between 85 and 100 million during the 20th century. Fuckers.

                • Colonial Viper

                  Compared to corporate capitalism, which is going to ecologically destroy the planet.

                  By the way, please account for your 85M figure.

                  • Richard McGrath

                    65 million in Red China
                    20 million in the USSR
                    2 million in Cambodia
                    2 million in North Korea
                    1.7 million in Africa
                    1.5 million in Afghanistan
                    1 million in Eastern Europe
                    1 million in Vietnam
                    150,000 in Latin America

                    • Richard McGrath

                      VTO’s response to the itemised list of deaths directly attributable to communist governments: “lol”.

                      Says it all, really.

                    • Harry

                      Richard – good point – conservative estimates there. For your trouble you get personal attacks from those who care about humanity so much that they can’t admit that communists ever did anything bad.

                      Forward comrades! To the gulag!

          • vto 2.3.1.1.2

            What? You have no idea? But you just claimed that the left does that violent shit – then immediately declare that you have no idea……

            no idea

            The left has killed nobody in NZ in its activism.

            The right has killed Mr Abbot in Wellington in 1982, a Mr Evans was killed by the right in Waihi in I think 1912, and another has also been killed by the right in industrial action.

            You may also want to check out various right wing attack mobs and vigilantes http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJj3Kx1eCO8

            It is the right wing that is violent.

            Go learn some basics you great useless ignoramus. Your type is dangerous in its ignorance

            • Richard McGrath 2.3.1.1.2.1

              Gosh you lot are pleasant people. VTO, it is perfectly valid for me to claim that those on the left use thuggery, without knowing precisely how many people were killed by them. Thuggery and murder are different degrees of violence. Even if the number murdered by leftists in New Zealand was zero, that doesn’t equate to them being non violent.

    • Murray Olsen 2.4

      I am not a pacifist and I can sympathise with your lust for tomato sauce, even though I try to use words these days. Possibly mainly due to illness, I’ve been successful for about 8 years.

      Cunliffe should make sure that the idiot, if they are in Labour, is shamed and expelled. By not doing this, he’s not doing any of us any favours.

  3. Tiger Mountain 3

    Now is the time to ‘snatch victory from the jaws of defeat’ as the saying goes. All efforts should be put into mobilising a “change the government” voter turnout.

    The agonising over and flaying of Labour can surely wait a few more weeks, the torys are certainly doing a decent enough hatchet job without left energy going there too. If the Internet Mana roll and the Greens mini tsunami like quiet achiever performance plus what Labour can pull out of the bag during the campaign does deliver then a different type of struggle just begins. But in a way better political climate than relentless tory attacks.

    • Re Labour;
    Lets be clear. Labour is a class collaborationist third way social democratic party, but still supported by many working class and middle class people.
    –Many firm lefties departed Labour long ago and the new leader ranks are predominately managerialists which makes things like party democracy that are so obvious to some of us a difficult concept to them.
    –Super at 67–a sure vote loser, blank out the bennies ditto. Dumping the Reserve Bank Act–not on your…
    This will not change before September 3–20 so lets get on with doing the best we can in whatever party or part of the community you operate in. If Labour can’t sit on the zoo that is the left over Rogernomes we are all going to suffer. So I am both critical of and supportive of Labour in this election as part of the needed left bloc.

  4. Mike Smith 4

    Speaking of witless fools, what’s the point of keeping these stories running?

    • Tom Gould 4.1

      Because blaming everyone else for their own spectacular failure is all the real ‘witless fools’ can do, perhaps?

    • ghostwhowalksnz 4.2

      You are totally right. The original report referred to ‘party insider’, which is weak attribution. Even DPF says he been called a party insider. So we could have had someone who writes on blogs having a bitch about something. Think about it, the journalist has space to fill with their name on it.
      National doesnt get these stories because they have a full time cohort looking into and giving this sort of background info to journalists

    • McFlock 4.3

      good for mana and the greens.

      Benefits to the left as a whole are therefore debatable one way or t’other, I guess. Shame for folk to regurgitate tory propaganda, though – leaves a bit of a foul aftertaste.

      • Sacha 4.3.1

        How is Labour repeatedly putting its foot in its mouth helping any party on the left? Unless they’d rather be in opposition for another 3 years.

        • McFlock 4.3.1.1

          I read the question as being “what’s the point of no right turn recycling tory beatups about alleged discontent within the Labour party?”

          • Sacha 4.3.1.1.1

            Because some of us have been hoping they’d listen, so we can get a functioning left government. And look:

            http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/10294305/Cunliffe-The-fightback-begins-now

            “Cunliffe said this afternoon’s caucus meeting, postponed to allow him to get back from delivering a speech in Nelson, would have some “earnest conversations about how we can do better”.

            “I am sure that the caucus will be as determined as I am that we stick to our knitting and to our core messages about jobs, homes and families, and avoid distractions,” Cunliffe said.”

    • deep throat 4.4

      Exactly Mike Smith.
      something has happened here.
      and I mean here on the Standard.
      Instead of being a vehicle for the party this blog is turning into a blab fest for anybody who is agaisnt the party and furthermore the editors who say they support the party are letting the creeps get away with it.
      How can we win an election if the creeps are allowed free access to run riot with their opinions and vitriol.
      The editors here better wake up.

      • fender 4.4.1

        Oh dear, you may be new around here and although it’s not my place to tell you, you better read the about and the policy

        If you don’t get a tune up from Lprent, count yourself lucky.

      • mickysavage 4.4.2

        The Standard has always had an open policy on debate. Keep it to the point and obey the rules and robust discussion is allowed. I don’t see any breach of those rules here.

        FWIW I did not put this post up. We often use IS’s posts so it is no surprise here. I agree with Mike that we should be discussing important issues such as what is wrong with the country and what we can do to fix it up.

        • The Fan Club 4.4.2.1

          And just last night you were reassuring me that we were all about happy winning election stuff, and here’s another story run specifically to rark up the readership here about how much we hate those evuullll ABCs, and look, there’s people threatening to bludgeon Labour MPs in the face up there.

          Is it Annette King who’s going to have “a nose like tomato sauce”? Or maybe it’ll be Clare Curran who gets the bash? Or shall we batter Chris Hipkins until he’s gushing blood? You choose, based on whatever prejudices you have available.

          You know exactly what running these stories will do, you know exactly the response they’ll get, and still you run them, all so that if Cunliffe leads the party to the worst defeat ever this election he can still cling on to the leadership in a death grip. It’s disgusting.

          [Did you read my comment where I said I did not put this post up? It was not my choice and I would have preferred something less inflamatory. The Standard is a large collective with different writers. One of the others put it up. To be frank I do wish the misbehaviour by some MPs/candidates would stop. Someone is leaking like crazy and if they are within the party then they need to be dealt to, within the rules of course. Comment held for now because you appear to be trying to start a flame war - MS]

          [lprent: I put the post up. It needed to be said because there is some fuckwit dickhead(s) around inside Labour and they are causing some real damage to the left. Some fools are letting their personal ambition to get the better of their common sense in my opinion. This site is here to express opinions on the left. Clearly you don't respect that. I guess you don't like it. So live with that.

          Fuck off and be a dumb wanker elsewhere. You are banned until september 21st. ]

      • swordfish 4.4.3

        You seem to be playing the role here of some sort of deeply loyal long-time Labour Party activist, DT. But wasn’t it just yesterday that you informed us all you “…used to vote national but after they said they would give colin craig a membership deal I will not vote for them anymore>” ?

        Here…http://thestandard.org.nz/herald-says-weird-things-about-cunliffe-and-labour-clutha-southland-candidate/#comment-852666

        In other words, National right up until recent weeks ?

        So why all this sudden fierce loyalty to “The Party” ? And why this sudden concern that “the real party people are leaving in droves because they are disgusted with the tone that has crept in here” ?

    • Blue 4.5

      what’s the point of keeping these stories running?

      The point is akin to holding a blowtorch to the privates of the fucking idiots who can’t keep their mouths shut.

      I can understand the desire to sweep it all under the carpet, I really can. But then I see headlines like this and it just brings all the anger to the surface again.

      David Cunliffe, a father of two young children and a man leading a party that believes in allowing people to have time with their children is slammed for taking a three day holiday with them knowing that he won’t see much of them for the next two months. And he is forced to apologise because some fuckwit thinks he’s lazy for taking three days. This fuckwit further thinks that the ‘damage’ done by David’s three day holiday miraculously outweighs the damage done by said fuckwit criticising their leader in public and making Labour look like a divided mess destined for disaster, again.

      We had been doing so well – the leaks had stopped, Labour was presenting a reasonably united front in public, there had been some good policy and speeches coming out and then BAM, it’s back to ‘geez, what a fucking mess Labour are, they can’t even run their own party, let alone a country’.

      Infighting is the kiss of death at the ballot box. See what happened to Australian Labor for reference. Voters cannot abide disunity and they will vote for pretty much anything (see Tony Abbott) over a divided party where MPs spend all their time fighting with each other.

      The absolute fucking imbecile who blabbed to the media has done more damage in one day than all of the other distractions combined. It doesn’t seem to matter how often and how loud we shout it – the message to SHUT THE FUCK UP doesn’t seem to get through the thick skulls in caucus.

      There had better not be a repeat of this incident.

  5. Michael 5

    Better luck next time then?

  6. deep throat 6

    the proprietors of the Standard brand are letting creeps walk in here and shit all over the floor and the real party people are leaving in droves because they are disgusted with the tone that has crept in here and the barbed threats.
    The original standard people would not have stood still for a minute for this sort of nonsense.

    [lprent: Actually you can't get any more original than me. I installed the wordpress, and registered the domain name. ]

    • just saying 6.1

      the barbed threats.

      People say what they like within the constraints of the stated rules, and the unstated – not bullying, unduly abusing, or intimidating others.

      If you feel you or someone else in being threatened, you need to be more explicit. But if it is dissent that you are worried about…. well, a left-wing blog is probably a worrying place.

      • deep throat 6.1.1

        I’m just saying that I agree with dissent %100 percent.
        as for the barbed threats and who made them then I will save that for later when they are needed.
        If you cant be bothered to keep up with the play then thats your problem.
        keep talking.
        as for NRT there was no “senior labour MP”.
        all that was a barefaced lie supplied to the press and picked up with glee with no attribution.
        that is the KEY to this election.
        Who is making up the lies and who is telling them.
        if you keep going after them one by one then all energy will be dissipated in a pointless and unwinnable activity.
        Not just one lie like the Zinoviev letter but an unending succession of them wholesale that are being retailed for full priced for buying special shoot yourself in the foot bullets.

        • Colonial Viper 6.1.1.1

          I’m just saying that I agree with dissent %100 percent.

          Don’t really sound like you are loving it in practice.

    • David H 6.2

      So what DT we just let you Right wing Trolls just come in here and shit everywhere?

      If you want to shit everywhere just piss off back to whaleslime and TricKeys Fantasy site. (God that just sounds UGGGGgggggg)

      • Te Reo Putake 6.2.1

        I don’t think DT is a right winger, David. His comment history is quite consistently left.

  7. emergency mike 7

    On the front page of TS this post references “the witless fool “senior” MP in Labour”, but the stuff article is quoting a “senior party insider”, which might not be, and probably isn’t a MP I’m guessing.

    I’ve heard Richard Prebble presented as a ‘Labour insider’ ffs.

    • lprent 7.1

      On the front page of TS this post references “the witless fool “senior” MP in Labour”, but the stuff article is quoting a “senior party insider”, which might not be, and probably isn’t a MP I’m guessing.

      The actual bit that points to the “senior party insider” (as it was in the original article (which has now been extensively amended)) in the SST being a MP is:-

      We will be having a talk to David at caucus about his work ethic on Tuesday.”

      The problem for your thesis is that is quite a specific statement. The people in a caucus meeting are the MPs, the party secretary, and often the party president. I don’t think it would have been Tim Barnett or Moira Coatsworth leaking that kind of destabilising crap to a reporter.

      So either the reporter (Steve Kilgallon) was simply making crap up (ie lying) in one of more parts of his article before Simon Day got into it, or someone was stirring shit up inside caucus in exactly the same manner as happened in 2012 – which ultimately was the reason why this story was believable.

      If it was the former case, then Steve Kilgallon has now entered my shit list as a outright liar and unworthy of being a journalist..

      It it was the latter case, then from the quotes it would appear that the unnamed source was trying to destabilize the result of this election for the left to get some kind of positioning advantage post-election. If I ever find out who that was, I will be making a formal request to boot them out of Labour.

      In any case I’m really pissed off with the caucus for having played the types of past antics that made this story believable.

      I really don’t care either way

  8. I’m not a fan of NRT’s depressing tendency to label anyone and everyone he can as a “Labour hack” rather than engage with their actual arguments. This now probably extends to every Labour Party volunteer who chooses to continue working hard in the election campaign because they believe in it.

    • No, I’d call those people “suckers”. But if they want to work for a party organisation which seems intent on undermining their efforts, that’s their problem.

      • One numpty-saboteur =/= the entire party organisation.

        • Colonial Viper 8.1.1.1

          It takes but one saboteur to open the city gates and lose the entire war.

          • Richard McGrath 8.1.1.1.1

            … or to lance the festering boil and squeeze out the fetid cheesy contents.

          • Stephanie Rodgers 8.1.1.1.2

            Yes, but the point is that one saboteur’s actions are not reflective of total systemic failure.

            I/S would probably argue that there’s been total systemic failure as well, but one is still not proof of the other.

            • Colonial Viper 8.1.1.1.2.1

              Yes, but the point is that one saboteur’s actions are not reflective of total systemic failure.

              I think you are taking a somewhat optimistic view of this. This type of sabotage behaviour doesn’t usually occur in isolation from a permissive/provocative organisational context and culture. And as lprent has pointed out, this most recent sabotage behaviour looks more like a continuing pattern rather than a one off.

              I agree with you in that it may not point to a “total systemic failure” per se, but it does suggest that serious re-engineering and democratisation within the Labour Party has to continue.

      • lprent 8.1.2

        But if they want to work for a party organisation which seems intent on undermining their efforts, that’s their problem.

        I have no particular problem with putting up your post. It made a useful point. However this statement demands a rejoinder.

        I guess that never working for any party in particular in a campaign (as far as I can see) makes you an expert on the subject? It must be like never being disappointed in a relationship by never having any?

        What it points to is some fool(s) being more concerned about their own objectives and less concerned (as you pointed out) with those of either the party or of cause of the left in general.

        Basically egotist fools are pretty common in all political organisations, left, right or in any other axes you care to name.

    • Anne 8.2

      I think Jenny Kirk has put it in a nut-shell.

      Herald 22nd July- Letter to the Editor.

      Labour grizzlers

      I am fed up with cowardly Labour MPs grizzling anonymously about David Cunliffe’s performance.

      These MPs need to front up and show themselves as brave enough to withstand the barrage of protest that will come their way when volunteer Labour supporters – all working their guts out for the party’s election campaign – find out who they are.

      I could take an educated guess who they are. But they really should show themselves to be men and not wimps by hiding behind the anonymity of “Labour spokesperson”.

      Jenny Kirk
      Former Labour MP.

      Well said Jenny.

      While the reporter’s source may not have been a parliamentarian, he was acting at the behest of a small group of ABCers. They have used a black ops. campaign – run in the first instance by Jason Ede and Cameron Slater – to further undermine David and regain their control of caucus. They have to go!

      • Richard McGrath 8.2.1

        Well said, Jenny. These Labour Party ABCers need to crawl out from under their rock and get on with the business of rolling Cunliffe… if they want Labour to stop its slide toward oblivion.

  9. Sacha 9

    “talking about the need for everyone on the left to work “hard, seamlessly, together, and well” ” – at least one party offered Labour such an arrangement and was rebuffed. Top strategy, chaps.

  10. deep throat 10

    you guys just aren’t up with it.
    haven’t you been reading the posts?
    the favourite ploy of the righties that lurk is the old I used to vote labour but now I dont because ….fill in the gaps.
    if you dont recognise irony then you are stunted persons.
    as far as being committed to the party I am totally committed but I dont see this interweb pseudo objectivity being allowed to descend into turning a blind eye to reality.
    see sometimes this place feels like a hobby project for middle class labour party would be intellectuals/media barons and you guys have to wake your ideas up.
    and I gave you the details on the contact us email but you dont seem to have read it.

    • emergency mike 10.1

      That sure is lot of concern you’ve got there.

    • Te Reo Putake 10.2

      Well, I’d have to say there’s a lot here who do get irony, dt, but if your comments are in written in a way that gives no clue that irony is intended then the mistake is not the reader’s. And of course, your line about “I used to vote …” isn’t irony, anyway, it’s parody. But, no matter.

      Try using things like fullstops, commas and quotation marks, or even smileys, so that we can know which bits are the ironical and which bits are the serious. We already have one stream of unconsciousness practitioner here busily dumbing …. down the language …

      in a way …

      that’s completely ….

      un …. reada … ble….

      (see what I did there?)

      • swordfish 10.2.1

        chrs 4 that there…trp…

        i…dunno…..d’ya reckon ?…..

        me ?……i’ve …grown…….

        accustomed… 2…

        phil…..ure’s…….

        um…..er…..creative….tendencies…..eh ..?

        he has some…ur…bits n bobs that r…ok…

        ..in his…y’know…stream of…whatsits…….

        he cd be a…poster child…

        ..for a vegan diet…I reckon…eh…?

        or…at least…he wd b a …potential customer 4……

        …an ethical…cruelty-free….

        ..meat-less…diet…then….eh…?

        …so…there ya go…!

        …but wait…!…there’s more…!

        • greywarbler 10.2.1.1

          @ swordfish 3.59
          The pen is even mightier when the swordfish has it.

      • deep throat 10.2.2

        trp.
        another one that wants to tell everyone else what to do.
        you know what I am saying so dont fudge it.
        or are you just another troll?

    • David H 10.3

      Oh DeepThroat why don’t you go back to your NAT bosses and live up to your name. Sucker!!

      • deep throat 10.3.1

        Oh stop making up lies dh.
        you just another obfuscator who cant read or comprehend anything above dat, dere, dem and dese.

        • greywarbler 10.3.1.1

          @deep throat 6.38
          What a waste of a good intellect – bang. Don’t be so touchy. You could be easier to read you know, which would be clearer for everyone else. You seem to be saying something interesting, even important, but well one can’t be sure.

          We actually don’t want to kill the bouzouki player. If I’m being too obscure I’ll explain.

  11. TeWhareWhero 11

    ‘Guys like ….Annette King …’ certainly indicates someone whose thought processes owe a bit more to his amygdala than his prefrontal cortex.

  12. ianmac 12

    This time I think No Right Turn is so wrong to promote the “self-mutilation” myth.
    It is based on what exactly? A covert mystery one person?
    Gavin Ellis on 9 to Noon gives a rousing condemnation of journalist who published without verification.
    1 How much does the source know?
    2. Does the source have a motive?
    3. Can it be verified by more than one source? Triangulate.
    Gavin reckons this item failed at all levels.
    I think NRT has also failed in this case.
    http://www.radionz.co.nz/audio/player/20142606

    • wtl 12.1

      IS at NRT has pretty much decided “everything Labour does is wrong”, it’s blatantly obvious from his recent posts. I agree that some of his posts on Labour are pretty irrational, as you’ve pointed out, but if he wants to keep being a “sucker” and falling for media spin, that’s his problem.

      • One Anonymous Bloke 12.1.1

        Pundit to pull head in, predicts partisan patron.

        Don’t be captured by media spin, accept that the left is many people with many voices and the worst possible political philosophy apart from all the other ones.

    • deep throat 12.2

      Of course it failed on all points yet it gets repeated here as gospel.
      have the editors here gone mad or are they just derelict in their duties.

    • mickysavage 12.3

      Ellis was very good. And it makes you wonder if we are getting played …

    • lprent 12.4

      Problem is that this article fits into a pattern of behaviour far too well. It is exactly the same kind of dumbarse whisper campaign from inside Labour that we have seen far too often already. I’m quite tired of it. I was tired of it at the end of 2012. I’m completely intolerant about it now.

      If Labour want to stop these anonymous leak stories then they have to do one of two things. Metaphorically stake out and burn the source(s) inside Labour or stake out the dickhead reporters making up stories and burn them. I really don’t care which.

      Even if this particular case was a dickhead reporter (which I have my doubts on), the problem was that it is a believable pattern of behaviour.

      In the meantime if I see similar stories coming out or “senior” Labour sources. I’m going to be getting blunter about the need to roast the Labour caucus and the entire Labour establishment.

      Their job is to not allow dipshits like Hipkins did in 2012 to add fuel for future flames for ‘jonolists’ years later.

      • Sacha 12.4.1

        “the problem was that it is a believable pattern of behaviour” – exactly. Everyone deserves better than this by now, surely. Lance the boil/s. Get on with winning an election.

      • john 12.4.2

        You problem is more fundamental than the leakers – it’s that you have a leader that most of the public and some MPs don’t back.

        I talked to a taxi driver yesterday who considered himself a lifetime labourite, but said he couldn’t vote for David Cunliffe.

        Like Goff and Shearer (and English), Cunliffe is probably a very capable and effective MP, but he’s simply not a leader that people will back – not many are.

        Once you find the right person, things can change quickly. Even Brash got over twice the votes and twice the percentage that National got under Bill English. And he wasn’t exactly inspiring.

        • Sacha 12.4.2.1

          “Once you find the right person, things can change quickly” – as head of strategy and communications, yes.

  13. john 13

    Most people I know didn’t see anything wrong with Cunliffe taking three days off with his children – it was a bit of a non-story.

    What is it with the trend of apologising when you haven’t done anything wrong? Key is now supposed to apologise despite having nothing to do with the Malaysian diplomat getting away.

    What could possibly do more damage for Cunliffe, is that he has now apologized for taking a very small and much needed break. It looks pretty wishy-washy and not very leader-like.

    He needs his own moral compass and to stop blowing with the wind and saying whatever he thinks people want to hear.

    • Colonial Viper 13.1

      What is it with the trend of apologising when you haven’t done anything wrong? Key is now supposed to apologise despite having nothing to do with the Malaysian diplomat getting away.

      Key’s responsibility is having not brought McCully and McCully’s performance into line, as well as doing sweet F.A. to help. That’s what Key wears as his responsibility and his fuck up to apologise for.

      And just from a general sense of humanity (hard for a sociopath I know) whose government has badly let down a young woman through BS at the state/diplomatic level.

      • vto 13.1.1

        I think he should apologise simply because the organisation he leads, the government, fucked up a serious alleged assault case on a young woman.

        Pretty bloody simple. Out here in the real world if something our organisation does had that sort of result we would immediately be on the phone trying to put things right and apologising for the damage caused.

        Problem is John Key.

        not sure what
        world he lives in
        he’s a bit weird really

        and dangerous

  14. anker 14

    John @13……..except it was written by Claire Trevitt……….I don’t believe a word she says……..

  15. Pissed off Leftie 15

    So as it looks increasingly unlikely that the Labour Party is not going to get its shit together,
    Please please do not elect Grant Fucking Robertson as leader in October

    • Kiwiri 15.1

      Grant would be too shrewd to go into the leader’s seat so quickly. Arrangements will see Parker in to hold the seat for a bit. And then, part way through an increasingly very unpopular third term National Party, Grant will declare his hand to be carried by the victorious red tide of 2017. The more the membership and broad support peals away from the Party, the better that would work out for the Parker-Grant plan.

      At the rate the rubbish of the past few weeks carry on, it would not be surprising if a shadow of doubt about Cunliffe is starting to creep upon the staunchest of Cunliffe’s supporters. Cunliffe needs to awaken his instincts and reactivate his wider source of advice and support if he wants to win for 20 Sep 2014.

  16. Foreign Waka 16

    How very sad the whole saga is. Mr Cunliffe, a great mind and very intelligent is, and never will be able to withstand the lowlifes that run the campaign of late. Young people will watch, laugh their heads off and see it for what it is. Politics driven by politics for the sake of politics and no one gives a damn about the people who loose their jobs, struggle to keep food on the table, if they have a table at all. Indeed it looks like that some want to loose the election on purpose. I wish Mr Cunliffe the best but I think he hasn’t got a show in hell, better to use the talent somewhere where it actually is wanted and needed. Sad for NZ, sad for the people who are part of the party and really try and work hard. But better to walk away, the rot has bitten too deep.

  17. Doughty 17

    For a Left/Labour orientated website most (not all) of you seem to have fallen for the rights smear campaign.
    Most of what is put out in the news are/is just a hatchet jobs on labour and it appears to be working when the party faithful begin to believe the lies. The main stream news is bias, the political reporting is bias, the polls are slanted, there is a massive amount of NLP in news articles, and a hell of a lot of manipulative Delphi technique going on, and now of course divide and rule. I’m voting Labour TWO ticks Come hell or high water, stay the course people for fuck sake.

    PS: the spelling and grammar Nazi’s, grow up there are more important issues atm

    • lprent 17.1

      I/S at No Right Turn isn’t a Labour person and doesn’t look like he ever has been. I announced my intention to party vote Green back in 2012 for exactly this type of “smear campaign” which was done by people inside Labour – in that case from a manufactured ‘coup’ that didn’t exist by people such as the whip and the leader at the time. My trust of the caucus was diminished as a direct result.

      This looks horribly familiar. As far as I am concerned as a long-time decades long Labour supporter, a party that does that type of crap to itself needs a good solid purge in its caucus. The problem with this “smear” is that it is entirely plausible to have come from inside Labour. I’m sick and tired of it.

    • Sacha 17.2

      “For a Left/Labour orientated website most (not all) of you seem to have fallen for the rights smear campaign.”

      No, some silly folk inside the tent have fallen for the FPP-style media coverage of polls, etc and are not believing their side can win. Voters tend to punish lack of confidence so it’s wastefully self-fulfilling behaviour if not promptly and decisively corrected.

      • Colonial Viper 17.2.1

        Voters tend to punish lack of confidence so it’s wastefully self-fulfilling behaviour if not promptly and decisively corrected.

        And the confidence and self-assuredness of the Labour Leader is absolutely critical, in this regard.

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  • Traffic Jam Tax must be given the red light
    Auckland Council’s proposed Traffic Jam Tax could cost some households thousands of dollars a year just to use roads they had already paid for with their taxes and must be rejected, says Labour’s transport and Auckland Issues spokesperson Phil Twyford....
    Labour | 29-10
  • National has chance to show leadership on limos
    The National Party has the opportunity to show leadership by transitioning our vehicle fleet towards renewable electricity when a new contract to supply Government limousines for VIPs goes to tender next month, the Green Party said today. "This is a...
    Greens | 29-10
  • The Māori Party can’t have it both ways over labour laws
    The Māori Party has to fess up over its voting record on the Employment Relations Amendment Bill, says Labour’s Māori Caucus.  “It’s simply not good enough to oppose the bill at the same time  as they helped speed up its progress through...
    Labour | 29-10
  • Equal pay and the aged care sector
    Today the High Court upheld the historic ruling by the Employment Court that our Equal Pay Act could be used to consider work of equal value cases; the government has been telling the UN and ILO that it could for...
    Greens | 29-10
  • Court case perfect opportunity for Government to improve gender pay gap
    If the Government wants to halt New Zealand’s slump in international rankings on the gender pay gap it should act on the court finding that women deserve equal wages, Labour’s Women’s Affairs spokesperson Sue Moroney says. “The World Economic Forum’s...
    Labour | 28-10
  • All Auckland transport options should be considered
    All options for meeting Auckland's transport needs should be considered, including reprioritising the transport budget away from wasteful spending on motorways, the Green Party said today.Auckland mayor Len Brown is today releasing a transport report by the Independent Advisory Board,...
    Greens | 28-10
  • Another report highlights Govt failure on child poverty
    An international report measuring the impact of the Global Financial Crisis (GFC) on child poverty rates, showing children in New Zealand have done worse than children in other countries, is further proof the Government needs to urgently take additional steps...
    Greens | 28-10
  • Address and Reply Debate Part 55: Inequality and Disability
    I rise on behalf of the Green Party to talk about inequality and disability.The recent census showed that nearly one in four New Zealanders lives with a disability—up from one in five in the previous census. These figures include some...
    Greens | 28-10
  • Address and Reply Debate Part 55: Inequality and Disability
    I rise on behalf of the Green Party to talk about inequality and disability.The recent census showed that nearly one in four New Zealanders lives with a disability—up from one in five in the previous census. These figures include some...
    Greens | 28-10
  • Child poverty: No more wake-up calls
    A new report which shows the National Government has made no inroads whatsoever into child poverty should do more than just set alarm bells ringing, Labour’s Acting Deputy Leader Annette King says. “UNICEF’s  latest Innocenti Report Card highlights the fact...
    Labour | 28-10
  • Eugenie Sage speaks in the 2014 Address in Reply Debate
    I congratulate you, Assistant Speaker Mallard, as Assistant Speaker and look forward to your knowledge, your fairness, and your light touch in being a referee of proceedings in this House. I congratulate also the other Assistant Speaker, Lindsay Tisch; the...
    Greens | 28-10
  • James Shaw’s Maiden Speech
    Tena Koe, Mr Speaker. I would like to take this opportunity to speak a little of the past, the present and the future. The privilege to serve in this Parliament was given to me by all those who gave their...
    Greens | 28-10
  • Govt airs real views on public broadcasting
    An admission by the Government that it is happy to experiment with Pacific and Maori audiences shows just how weak its vision for public broadcasting in New Zealand is, Labour’s Broadcasting spokesperson Kris Faafoi says. “National today admitted it doesn’t...
    Labour | 28-10
  • Does Judith Collins have a get out of jail card?
    Former justice minister Judith Collins appears to have been gifted a get out of jail free card based on the Prime Minister’s answers in Parliament today, Labour’s Acting Deputy Leader Annette King says. “Judith Collins claimed in an Official Information...
    Labour | 28-10
  • Solid Energy decision delay sensible
    Today’s announcement by the Board of Solid Energy that it will delay making a final decision on re-entering the Pike River mine is a sensible move, Labour’s MP for  West Coast-Tasman Damien O’Connor says. “It has been clear for some...
    Labour | 28-10
  • New York Green Bank off to a $1B start
    New York Governor Andrew Cuomo announced late last week the New York Green Bank’s first NZD$1 billion tranche of green energy investments. The projects, which are difficult for the private sector to finance, are now possible by New York Green...
    Greens | 28-10
  • Bartlett case means Govt must act on equal pay
    The Court of Appeal victory for Lower Hutt caregiver, Kristine Bartlett demonstrates that both the Government and employers have been ignoring and not fully implementing equal pay law, the Green Party said today.The Court of Appeal today upheld earlier rulings...
    Greens | 27-10
  • Rotorua shift for Maori TV a bizarre move
    The bizarre idea to move Maori TV to Rotorua is either poor planning or possible political interference that adds to the perception of a service in crisis, says Labour MP for Tamaki Makaurau Peeni Henare. “Moving Maori TV to Rotorua...
    Labour | 27-10
  • Second rate deal a no go – Goff
    A second rate deal on dairy in the TPP would totally contradict the agreed purpose of the Pacific trade agreement, Labour’s Trade spokesperson, Phil Goff says. “Both the origin of the trade negotiations and leaders’ statements on its objectives emphasise...
    Labour | 27-10
  • Legal victory a boost for all working women
    Today’s legal victory for equal pay is a much-needed boost for working women at a time when the Government is pushing through reforms which will make it harder for them to get pay rises, Labour’s Women’s Affairs spokesperson Sue Moroney...
    Labour | 27-10
  • National’s failed commodities export strategy exposed
    National's strategy to rely on commodities such as milk powder and logs has been exposed in the September trade figures released today, the Green Party said."National's strategy to hang all economic hope on exporting ever-increasing volumes of milk powder and...
    Greens | 23-10
  • Caution needed on calls to arm police
    There is no justification for routinely arming our police and doing so would change forever the way officers interact with their communities, Labour’s Associate Police spokesperson Kelvin Davis says. “As one of the few organisations distinguished by its unarmed status,...
    Labour | 23-10
  • Govt strains to get tea break law through
    The Government has been left with egg on its face - failing to get its much-vaunted, but hugely unpopular, meal break law passed in the first week of its new term, Labour spokesperson on Labour Issues Andrew Little says.“National desperately...
    Labour | 23-10
  • How low can you go? Mining the depths
    The company says there will be economic benefits, which the EEZ Act says the EPA must consider, but even these benefits are in doubt. The royalties while not set will be tiny, the profits will flow offshore, and whatever phosphate...
    Greens | 23-10
  • Fed Farmers defend GE Agriculture
    Federated Farmers, which represents a minority of farmers, appears to be captured by a pro-GE clique hell bent on increasing unsustainable technologies for the benefit of the herbicide and patent controlling seed companies. That there are better more sustainable farming...
    Greens | 23-10
  • Government loses the affordable housing race
    Nick Smith is dreaming if he thinks he can deliver affordable housing to Cantabrians on his current figures, says Labour’s Associate Housing spokesperson Poto Williams. “The Minister’s announcement that the Government will build 237 new homes, most of which will...
    Labour | 23-10
  • Labour’s thoughts with Canadians
    Labour has offered its sympathies to the family and friends of the Canadian soldier who died in what appears to be a premeditated and unprovoked attack while standing at guard at the Ottawa National War Memorial. “Our thoughts are also...
    Labour | 23-10
  • What next for TVNZ? Outsourcing the news?
    Television New Zealand’s decision to outsource Māori and Pacific programming is a real blow to the notion that our state broadcaster is a public broadcaster, says Labour. “CEO Kevin Kenrick has said today that TVNZ has ‘a very long and...
    Labour | 22-10
  • Green Party expresses sympathy for Canadian shooting victims
    The Green Party expressed its solidarity with Canadians and the Canadian Parliament today, offering its sympathy for family and friends of the soldier killed in the attack. "Our thoughts are with all those caught up in the shooting in Canada...
    Greens | 22-10
  • City Transport: A Taxing Matter
    This week the prospect of paying tolls on Auckland motorways became a hot topic. (See Mathew Dearnaley:Motorway tolling could hit some hard, NZ Herald, 30 Oct 2014.) As we might expect, the kneejerk response has been quite negative. But, as with...
    The Daily Blog | 30-10
  • Open Letter to Amy Adams: Please Reopen The Review Into Sexual Violence Cou...
    Ms Amy Adams, Justice and Courts Minister, Right now in this country it seems that although rape is illegal, it is not being prevented by the agents who uphold the law. It almost feels like rape is only illegal on paper,...
    The Daily Blog | 30-10
  • MEDIA WATCH: Does ‘No-Surprises’ Also Apply To TVNZ News?
    When you stand back and look at NZ media outlets, most of them have at least one or two people who attempt to hold the government to account: John Campbell on TV3, Guyon Espiner and others at Radio NZ, David...
    The Daily Blog | 30-10
  • Things That Make You Go Hmmmmmmm
    Every so often in politics, a public figure comes out with something so absurd and so outlandish … that it really does just make you go “Hmmmmmmmmmm”. We’re accustomed to this from certain quarters – by mid point through the...
    The Daily Blog | 30-10
  • Poverty & inequality don’t need protest marches – they need a riot:...
    The global level of inequality continues to skyrocket… Number of billionaires doubled since financial crisis The number of billionaires has doubled since the start of the financial crisis, according to a major new report from anti-poverty campaigners. According to Oxfam,...
    The Daily Blog | 30-10
  • If Key knows who Rawshark is…
    I’m sorry, what? John Key ‘given Rawshark’s name’The Prime Minister believes he knows who hacked Whale Oil blogger Cameron Slater’s computer and produced the source material for Nicky Hager’s Dirty Politics, according to a new edition of a recently published...
    The Daily Blog | 30-10
  • Child Poverty stats in NZ
    Child Poverty stats in NZ...
    The Daily Blog | 30-10
  • Crimes Act + Police Investigation = WTF
    Just to frame the farce that is the Roastbuster’s investigation and conclusion – here are the parts of the Crime Act http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1961/0043/latest/whole.html#DLM329057  the Roastbusters are proven to have violated – that the police (and some suspects!) themselves acknowledge occurred: Crimes...
    The Daily Blog | 29-10
  • Publishing Journalists’ Home Addresses Is A Tactic Of The Right, Not The ...
    I think I’m starting to get rather annoyed with the conduct of some pro-MANA people over this ongoing Parliamentary Services crew complement issue. Yes, we get that there are legitimate issues to be raised with how some political reporters in...
    The Daily Blog | 29-10
  • Aucklanders caught between a tarseal-addicted government and a weak mayor
    Len Brown’s proposal for motorway tolls to reduce congestion and provide funding for better public transport is a weak response to a critical issue. The $12 billion dollar shortfall on transport funding he talks about is mainly for projected new...
    The Daily Blog | 29-10
  • A Very Weird Story: Deconstructing Darren Aronofsky’s Noah.
    NOAH is a curious movie. Conceived as a biblical epic, it’s target audience was originally the millions of Americans who regard the Bible as God’s inerrant word. With the sin-filled works of Hollywood forbidden to these true-believers, Christian movie-makers have developed...
    The Daily Blog | 29-10
  • You Can Get Away With Rape In New Zealand
    Jessie Hume with last years petition against rape     The police have sent a strong message today.  In fact they’ve been sending a strong message for a while; a message that our government supports. “You can literally get away...
    The Daily Blog | 29-10
  • Roast Buster case – no charges. In the immortal words of NWA…
    Roast Busters case: No prosecutions Police are to make an announcement this afternoon on Operation Clover, the investigation into the “Roast Busters” allegations. The Herald understands the victim has been told that the alleged offenders will not be prosecuted due...
    The Daily Blog | 29-10
  • Key’s flag change distraction to cost $26million!
    No. Way. Bid to change NZ flag to cost millions The cost of holding two referendums and consulting on a change of flag has been estimated to be just under $26 million. Look. We all appreciate that the sleepy hobbits...
    The Daily Blog | 29-10
  • Why NZ Herald’s Labour Party crocodile tears are so audacious
    The front page the NZ Herald would use if they thought they could get away with it No one can take the recent columns by NZ Herald seriously… John Armstrong: Shadow lingers on National John Roughan: Labour’s leadership vote matters...
    The Daily Blog | 28-10
  • The beginning of the end of Cameron Slater?
    Slater postings on man bizarre, court told A businessman has changed his appearance and had to install extra security at his home after Whale Oil blogger Cameron Slater posted his business and personal documents online, he says. Mr Slater has...
    The Daily Blog | 28-10
  • We are a milk power republic and Fonterra our unelected senate
    Wow. Just wow… Deputy mayor says he’ll be sacked South Taranaki deputy mayor Alex Ballantyne says he expects to be sacked because he has spoken out about the impact gasses coming from dumped Fonterra dairy products have had on his...
    The Daily Blog | 28-10
  • MEDIA WATCH: “…But *actually* this is about ethics in political-game jo...
    Yesterday, a piece of mine on the recent revelations about Hone Harawira employing several gentlemen either accused or convicted of sex offences was published on The Daily Blog. Predictably, given the fierce loyalty which Hone inspires in his party faithful and...
    The Daily Blog | 28-10
  • Privilege cheque
    There was no race problem in my childhood. Living in central Wellington I was well-insulated from what was going on not so far away. This was the 60s and 70s, where the teachers enjoyed free love in the staff room...
    The Daily Blog | 28-10
  • A brief word on Key’s claim that it will be raining carnage
    Isis will ‘rain carnage on the world’ – John Key Left unchecked Isis would “rain carnage on the world”, Prime Minister John Key says, but he has yet to make a decision on whether New Zealand troops will join a...
    The Daily Blog | 28-10
  • Meanwhile…
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    The Daily Blog | 27-10
  • How does Andrew Little win Labour Leadership and unify the caucus?
    Audrey Young’s excellent column on how the Caucus vote  is shaping up shows how Andrew Little becomes the next leader of the Labour Party. She identifies the factions as the following… Andrew Little 6: Andrew Little, David Cunliffe, Iain Lees Galloway,...
    The Daily Blog | 27-10
  • GUEST BLOG: Joe Trinder – Right of response to Curwen
    You have asked that Hone Harawira deserves to explain what happened, how would he explain when his next door neighbour is an alleged sex offender. What explanation can Hone offer he wasn’t involved, Hone had no idea this offending was...
    The Daily Blog | 27-10
  • MEDIA WATCH: That Hella-Weird Feeling When You Defend Tova O’Brien
    Oh dear. Yesterday morning I blogged that Hone deserved a chance to explain what exactly had happened as applies his office’s Parliamentary Services crew complement – and, importantly, that we deserve to be able to judge him on the strength of...
    The Daily Blog | 27-10
  • Canadian Green MP warns against harsh anti-terror measures
    Canada’s Green Party has provided a welcome counterpoint to Prime Minister Harper’s call for tougher anti-terrorism laws in the wake of a soldier outside the Canadian Parliament. On October 22, while she was still locked in her parliamentary office, Green...
    The Daily Blog | 27-10
  • When is an asset sale not an asset sale? When it robs from the poor and ste...
    National have turned state housing on its head. At no time during the 2014 election did the Key Government even hint that they were going to privatise 30% of the Housing NZ stock of state homes. Not once. Key even...
    The Daily Blog | 27-10
  • Housing; broken promises, families in cars, and ideological idiocy (Part To...
    . . Continued from: Housing; broken promises, families in cars, and ideological idiocy (Part Rua) . Bill English comes clean on National’s intentions for HNZ privatisation . On 14 October, in a report on The Daily Blog, I wrote, In...
    The Daily Blog | 27-10
  • The Questions Have Been Asked – They Deserve An Answer
    A few days ago, allegations that had been percolating for some time about Hone Harawira employing three either accused or convicted sex offenders on his Parliamentary pay-roll came to light. (one imprisoned before working for MANA; one who found himself convicted and...
    The Daily Blog | 26-10
  • I have seen one future, and it is bleak
    . . Back in  March 2012, I wrote this story regarding a march to support striking workers at Ports of Auckland. It appears there was some prescience about some of my observations at the time… . | | 18 March...
    The Daily Blog | 26-10
  • US air strike war Key wants us in has killed a civilian a day so far
      The US air strike war that John Key wants us to join has killed a civilian a day so far. From the Washington Post... The United States launched its first airstrikes on militants in Syria on Sept. 23, and has continued...
    The Daily Blog | 26-10
  • The instant Jihad syndrome
    My favourite new term is ‘self-radicalised’ – it suggests the reasons for terrorism are totally divorced from the actions of the West. This need to suddenly ramp up terror laws because of lone wolf, self-radicalised Jihadists seems convenient and counter-productive....
    The Daily Blog | 25-10
  • We have nothing to fear from Ebola but fear itself
    I suspect most Americans perceive Ebola like this   I can’t work out if the fear being spread within the media about Ebola is deliberate or just ignorance. Yes Ebola is a terrible plague that kills a large percentage of...
    The Daily Blog | 25-10
  • GUEST BLOG: Anjum Rahman – “Meritocracy? I wish.”
    I’d like to start by linking to a post I had published at another site in support of Nanaia Mahuta for the Labour Party leadership election.  She has a reasonable chance, given that she already has the endorsement of Te...
    The Daily Blog | 25-10
  • Chocolate milk shortage and creepy Santa? Let’s talk about real news
    Child poverty is still a scarily serious problem in this country and house prices are soaring through the roof to the point where it is simply impossible for the average New Zealander to buy a home. There is also little...
    The Daily Blog | 25-10
  • It’s time to celebrate Kiwi schools and teachers
    Some would have you believe that New Zealand’s schools are in a state of collapse, that your children are not being educated well and that things are going to hell in a hand basket.  That there is no innovation, no...
    The Daily Blog | 25-10
  • Ideological Blitzkrieg – Privatization of state housing, more charter sch...
    Pundits in pundit land will tell you that this Government is boring, that Key is the great pragmatist and that it is his ability to create elegant solutions that keeps him the firm favourite in many Kiwi eyes. This ability...
    The Daily Blog | 24-10
  • Hegemony rules but resistance is fertile
    The Prime Minister is a puppet. Not just our current Prime Minister, but given the forces of multinational globalisation, the role of any head of state, is less as independent actor, and more as a puppet of international trends and...
    The Daily Blog | 24-10
  • An open Letter to Sir Bob Jones: demanding a ‘liveable wage’ is not “...
    How out of touch with reality is Sir Bob Jones? You know, that white dude who invested in privatised SOEs after the selling off of our assets in the eighties and made a ludicrous and disgusting amount of money and is...
    The Daily Blog | 24-10
  • My insecurity about the Security Council
    As I write this (on 24 October) it is international UN Day. Of course, you all knew that already, right? Well, the day celebrates the entry into force of the UN Charter in 1945. With the ratification of this founding...
    The Daily Blog | 24-10
  • GUEST BLOG: Catherine Delahunty – Back in That House
    Parliament opened this week and I still find it a very odd place. Most of the people are reasonably courteous and friendly, but the rituals are archaic and the rules around issues like the swearing in oath are oppressive and...
    The Daily Blog | 23-10
  • Marae Investigates No More
    TVNZ yesterday announced the closure of their Māori and Pacific programmes department. That means they’ve chosen to stop making Fresh, Tagata Pasifika, Waka Huia and Marae Investigates to let independent producers get their hands on these lucrative contracts. This is...
    The Daily Blog | 23-10
  • BLOGWATCH: An Un-Civil War in Labour, eh?
    Earlier today, my attention was directed to an entry that’s just recently appeared on the Slightly Left of Centre blog. It purports to contain the ‘inside word’ from a highly placed NZF source – which is funny, because I’m pretty sure...
    The Daily Blog | 23-10
  • Santanomics 101
    Santanomics could mean a number of things. It could be the study and practice of giving. Or it could mean the study and practice of rampant end-of-year commercialism. However, for me today it is the economics of erectingAuckland’s giant Santa...
    The Daily Blog | 23-10
  • SkyCity boss misleads public over workers lost shifts
    SkyCity CEO Nigel Morrison has defended the employment practices at his company in an “Opinion” piece entitled “Human Capital key to corporate success” in the NZ Herald on Thursday. A number of his claims are misleading, contain only partial truths...
    The Daily Blog | 23-10
  • Review: Perfect Place
    I went to a Perfect Place on Tuesday night, and what a delight it was. The marshmallows sweetly (and forcefully) handed out pre-show, set the tone for the next hour. Walking up the stairs at The Basement was a complete...
    The Daily Blog | 23-10
  • 5AA Australia – NZ on UN Security Council + Dirty Politics Lingers On
    5AA Australia: Selwyn Manning and Peter Godfrey deliver their weekly bulletin Across The Ditch. General round up of over night talkback issues: Thongs, Jandals and flip-flops… ISSUE 1: New Zealand has been successful in its campaign to become a non...
    The Daily Blog | 22-10
  • When I mean me, I mean my office & when I call whaleoil I mean not as m...
    This. Is. Ludicrous. Green Party co-leader Russel Norman put the first of what are likely to be many questions about Mr Key’s relationship with Slater, asking him how many times he had phoned or texted the blogger since 2008. “None...
    The Daily Blog | 22-10
  • A brief word on describing the Government as ‘boring and bland’
    The narrative being sown is that this Government will be a boring and bland third term. Boring and bland. Since the election, Key has announced he is privatising 30% of state houses without reinvesting any of that money back into housing society’s most...
    The Daily Blog | 22-10
  • More Latté Than Lager: Reflections on Grant Robertson’s Campaign Launch.
    BIKERS? SERIOUSLY! Had Grant Robertson’s campaign launch been organised by Phil Goff? Was this a pitch for the votes of what few Waitakere Men remain in the Labour Party? Was I even at the right place? Well, yes, I was....
    The Daily Blog | 22-10
  • About Curwen Ares Rolinson
    Curwen Ares Rolinson – Curwen Ares Rolinson is a firebrand young nationalist presently engaged in acts of political resistance deep behind enemy lines amidst the leafy boughs of Epsom. He is affiliated with the New Zealand First Party; although his...
    The Daily Blog | 21-10
  • CTU Runanga calls on iwi leaders
    Maori workers are calling on iwi leaders to speak out against the employment law changes expected to go through today. “Iwi leaders have previously spoken out when workers in Aotearoa have been under attack, we believe they should do so...
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • Educating children not the best solution to alcohol harm
    Alcohol Healthwatch says we need to look beyond educating children and young people to address deeply embedded attitudes and behaviours concerning alcohol....
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • New code of welfare for rodeos released
    New standards to strengthen the animal welfare requirements for rodeos have been issued today by the Minister for Primary Industries, Nathan Guy....
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • IPCA report riddle with inaccuracies, say students
    A report by the Independent Police Conduct Authority into the policing of student protests in 2012 is riddled with inaccuracies, say students who laid the original complaint with the IPCA....
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • CT v The Queen – indecency convictions quashed
    This summary is provided to assist in the understanding of the Court’s judgment. It does not comprise part of the reasons for that judgment. The full judgment with reasons is the only authoritative document. The full text of the judgment...
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • Rameka v The Queen – murder convictions quashed
    This summary is provided to assist in the understanding of the Court’s judgment. It does not comprise part of the reasons for that judgment. The full judgment with reasons is the only authoritative document. The full text of the judgment...
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • Auckland Council Out of Control
    Responding to the NZ Herald article that some Auckland households will face a rates rise of up to 9.6 per cent next year, Taxpayers’ Union Executive Director Jordan Williams says: “Len Brown’s pledge to cap rates rises at 2.5 per...
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • Stats NZ staff escalate action with ‘no more meetings’ rule
    Statistics NZ staff have voted to escalate their ongoing industrial action in an effort to get Stats NZ back to the bargaining table with a reasonable offer. The staff, who are members of the Public Service Association (PSA), have been...
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • Rape Crisis calls for changes to criminal justice system
    Wellington Rape Crisis has added its voice to the public outcry following the announcement that there will be no charges in the teen rape gang case. Butterworth says the decision not to lay charges will not have been a surprise...
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • Police action justified in Blockade the Budget demonstration
    Police actions in dealing with a demonstration in Central Auckland known as Blockade the Budget on 1 June 2012 were justified and appropriate, an Independent Police Conduct Authority report released today found....
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • NZDF Joins with Australia to Commemorate WWI Centenary
    A contingent of New Zealand Defence Force (NZDF) personnel will join their Australian counterparts at Australia’s first major commemoration of the First World War centenary in Albany, Western Australia this weekend....
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • Reserve Bank should reduce interest rate
    “The Reserve Bank should be reducing its policy interest rate, the OCR”, says CTU Economist Bill Rosenberg in response to the Bank’s announcement today that it is not increasing it....
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • 2015 Stout Fellow will write about Māori & Criminal Justice
    Kim Workman, founder and advocate for the Robson Hanan Trust, which administers the Rethinking Crime and Punishment and Justspeak initiatives, has been awarded the 2015 John David Stout Fellowship at Victoria University....
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • What John Key thought about ‘dirty politics’
    On September 20, John Key swept to victory to become one of New Zealand’s most successful and popular Prime Ministers. Rocked by scandal, the 2014 election campaign was one of the most brutal – and riveting – in recent history....
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • Trade Deal Threatens Farmers and Food Businesses
    The secret Trans Pacific Partnership negotiations are a direct threat to food businesses and farmers, and a moratorium on the release of GE crops must be enshrined in law before the TPP is signed....
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • CTU announces election of new Secretary
    The contested election for the position of CTU Secretary has been won by Sam Huggard. Sam officially takes office on Monday 1 December 2014. Sam has worked in the union movement and brings a wealth of experience and a commitment...
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • Kim Workman awarded 2015 J.D. Stout Fellowship
    The Victoria University of Wellington 2015 J.D. Stout Fellowship, funded by the Stout Trust, has been awarded to justice reform advocate Kim Workman. Mr Workman (Ngati Kahungungu ki Wairarapa, Rangitaane) is well known for his work on criminal justice,...
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • TPPA causing concern
    Concern over the secretive Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement (TPPA) negotiations is being expressed in two public meetings over the next week; one at a presentation on 5th November by former councillor Robin Gwynn to the Napier City Council, the...
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • Kiwis rally to demand justice for ‘Roast Buster’ survivors
    Over 1,500 kiwis have rallied to demand justice after the announcement of the NZ Police decision not to lay charges in the ‘Roast Busters’ saga....
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • New employment law will hurt the most vulnerable NZers
    The Public Service Association (PSA) says changes to the Employment Relations Act, expected to be passed in Parliament tonight, will hurt vulnerable workers and their families more than anyone....
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • Consultation to close on proposed place names
    The New Zealand Geographic Board (NZGB) Ngā Pou Taunaha o Aotearoa today advised that only one month remains before public consultation closes for 18 name proposals for geographic features and places around Te Ika ā Māui (the North Island)....
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • Operation Clover – Statement from Police Commissioner
    I have taken a close interest in this investigation and I am confident police have conducted a thorough and professional enquiry in what has been a challenging and complex case. The Operation Clover team has ensured that victims have been...
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • Better policy would have protected children from recession
    Child Poverty Action Group says an international report released by UNICEF today shows good policy can protect and improve child well-being, even during a recession....
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • Outcome of Operation Clover investigation
    Police have completed a multi-agency investigation, Operation Clover, into the activities of a group calling themselves “The Roast Busters”. The 12 month enquiry focused on incidents involving allegations of sexual offending against a number of girls...
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • False birth registration brings home detention
    A Whangarei woman who attempted to register the birth of a fictitious child to claim a sole parent benefit was sentenced to six months home detention in the Whangarei District Court today....
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • Family of Robert Ellis demand a proper investigation
    The family of a New Zealander killed in Indonesia are growing increasingly concerned at the lack of information they’ve received, and the handling of the investigation into his murder....
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • Minister of Health must account for aged care workers’ pay
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  • Labour leadership candidates in Invercargill
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  • Public now needs to have its say over new tolls
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  • Kiwis to fight back against TPPA ‘corporate trap’
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  • Taxpayers’ Union Welcomes NZ First MP’s Resignation
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  • Stopping unnecessary roading projects solution to transport
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  • Fixing Auckland’s transport
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  • The New Zealand Gazette Moves into the Digital Age
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  • Labour leadership candidates in Dunedin
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  • UNICEF Report a Waste of Paper
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  • Press Council opens doors to digital media
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  • Tolls Should Be for New Roads, Not Old Ones
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  • Media freedom in West Papua: Protest at Indonesian embassy
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  • Lack of leadership blamed for decline in Gender Equity
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  • Richard Falk visit to NZ
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  • Apprehension for meat workers as employment law bill passes
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  • “Yes to Children, No to Poverty” Says Commissioner
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  • UNICEF report card highlights need for action
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  • Children of the Recession: NZ’s shame
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  • TPP Too Important for Compromised Finish
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  • Labour leadership candidates in Nelson
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    The New Zealand Nurses Organisation (NZNO) congratulates Kristine Bartlett and the Service and Food Workers Union: Ngā Ringa Tota on their historic win. Today the Court of Appeal dismissed an appeal from Kristine’s employer; opening the way for...
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