It will be interesting to see if Jan Wright’s report on Fracking, and the disposal of fracking waste on landfarms, spurs on the Labour Party to get off the fence on this issue. Her report exposes the almost total lack of controls on the oil and gas industry. So much for World Class regulations, turns out fracking wells come under the same rulings as drilling wells for water!!??Nicky Kaye needs to take the food safety issues seriously too as cattle are grazing on chemical and oil product dumps. Fonterra have acknowledged the risks as they refuse to pick up milk produced on these landfarms. Simon Bridges also needs to be taken to task for his grovelling to oil industry lobby. Ok Labour where do you stand on these issues?
I saw something Labour on Stuff last night, but can’t find it anywhere now (checked in both Politics and Environment).
This in the ODT seems to be much the same quote:
Labour’s Environment spokeswoman Moana Mackey said Dr Wright’s report concluded that while oil and gas drilling could be done safely, the oversight and regulation of the activity was inadequate, inconsistently applied and had not kept pace with the rapid advances in industry and technology.
”It is important we modernise our regulation of this industry to protect our environment, water aquifers and other industries that may be incompatible with a rapid local expansion in exploration,” Ms Mackey said.
I’m with those calling for a moratorium on both fracking and “land-farming” (spreading the toxic waste byproducts on farmland). I also note that to say; “oil and gas drilling could be done safely”, you have to completely ignore the climate consequences of burning all those fossil hydrocarbons.
I thought “oil and gas drilling could be done safely” means – with the facts that oversight/regulation is inadequate etc – that its not likely to be done safely anywhere else in NZ and therefore cannot be done until these regulations etc are put in place. Which is similar to what Labour has been saying : which, in effect, is a different way of calling for a moratorium without actually spelling it out.
another report John Key won’t read .. this is a frightening issue requiring very bright public sunlight, particularly in NZ … and yes, it’s by reputable scientists even.
Legalise it don’t criticise it Dept:
Internet Party has definite appeal, Loomio helping with tech side and membership consultation. How long would Labours super at 67 last with this type of onto it approach? https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=g93GW-2hS4A
(..tho’ i do like the pie-graphs giving real-time readings of both the members’ views..and which percentage of those members have expressed their opinions on that policy..
..last nite 71% of members had voted..and were 80% in favour of legalisation..)
..giving members the best input on policy of any party i have seen/been involved with..
..you are against that karol..?
..and as already noted..how long to you think labours’ super-age raising policy wd last..
..should labour loomio their policies..?
..policy-making in most parties is top-down driven..
..and presented to members as a fait accomplit..
..and that is not democracy in action..
..so karol..there is yr ‘innovation’..eh..?..(and the pie-graphs/real-time collating/presenting of the moods..
..yr run-of-the-mill forums dont have that facility..
..it is like the tick-up/tick down used at the daily blog..on steroids..
I’ve nothing against the discussion at all. Just asking about Loomio. I’ve used forums in the past that had real time polls running. So what’s innovative about Loomio? I keep hearing it’s some great new democratic innovation. i don’t see it as being any more democratic as a technology than any other forums.
PS: My question is about Loomio. It has nothing to do with IP consulting with members to develop policy.
I was wondering the same thing. I heard Mike Williams on rnz the other day saying he’d seen the software teh IP was using and it was like nothing anyone could have imagined or some such waffle.
In hindsight I suppose it is Williams. An internet forum is probably beyond his wildest dreams.
Only thing that I can see is that it has some built in presentation tools that forum users can use in their posts and also they have more choices of action than the old fashioned internet forum polls eg in Loomio you can choose to record your abstention from a vote being taken
On the face of it, you’re right, it’s not significantly different from other platforms.
Basically it comes down to features and usability. I assume it allows the administrators to set up the site so that certain users can create ‘polls’, and other users can easily vote and comment on those polls, and it aggregates the results for each individual poll or set of polls into a standard, easy to use/view format. The ease and power with which this can be done mean that although the actual approach and idea is not actual new or revolutionary, because the software makes it so easy to do and manage, it can actually happen in practice and be used.
Think of it like blogging software. It’s entirely possible to make your own blog, using standard HTML, but it’s much easier to go and use a blogging platform like WordPress that is specifically designed for it. It will have lots of helpful features and a standard administration panel. Because it’s standard, it’s easy to get help and support if you need it.
It’s significantly better than any previous forum discussions:
1.) You can see how you’ve voted (Quite often I’ve gone onto a discussion in a forum and not remember how I’ve voted or why)
2.) You can easily see everyone else’s arguments for or against
3.) As arguments for/against are made the proposal can be changed becoming more representative
4.) You can change how you’ve voted if the discussion hasn’t closed
It’s dynamic enough that the final result should actually be a consensus.
Yes, the point is that it’s not just about discussion. The structures to enable decision making by groups is built in. You don’t have that on other forums. For people that don’t get it, have a look at some of the other groups using it and some of the trials that loomio did. They’re better examples of the point of loomio than the IPP one, which is a bit chaotic at the moment I think.
Part of why loomio was set up was to enable real life groups to make decisions without having to all be in the same room at the same time. I don’t think it was primarily just about being another online discussion forum of people who didn’t know each other in RL.
..and as harre noted..other parties should follow this new benchmark in democratic policy-making..
..they have now sent ‘the standard’..and i can’t see how the members of other parties will not demand similar policy input..from their leaders..turning policy from top-down to bottom-up can only enhance the democratic process..
..loomio rocks..!
..christie was his usual cliche-dripping/supercillious/sneering self..(dotcom string-pulling allegations spilling from his lips..)
..but harre handled him well..
..(and earlier:..smiling approvingly at pics of shane jones troughing in the pacific islands..as keys’ wingman..
..and commenting on his new sellout-reward job..
..christie said:..with nary a trace of cynicism/sarcasm:..
“..he’s the perfect man for the job..”
..christie..staying on-message since whenever..
..i’ve been told christie does lip-puckering exercises in the studio before appearances there by key..
..and that key has said (admiringly) that christie has lips like a suction-cup..
I’d put money on it that weed won’t be legalised, and at best it’s 50/50 on decriminalising.
Decriminalising however throws up the argument that it’s a go soft on the gangs who own the pot market, which is probably likely not going to go down to well with mainstream mum and dad kiwis.
Decriminalisation is a bad idea & a half measure IMO
Its causes disrespect for the law
Eg “its still illegal, but were not going to do anything about it” just makes the law and its enforcers seem weak to me
Its legalization is inevitable, almost every other resource on the planet has been exploited by the capitalist system for profit, what makes you think drugs wont eventually follow ?
Trade Me passes under a lot of radars and it is full of tory plonkers posting every ten minutes or so gems like “rumours are swirling that Philida Bunkle, Sandra Lee and Matt Robson are due to join IMP”! Some of it is obviously beyond rational comment.
Chris trotter is basically saying that labour has blown both its feet off and wou ded everyone else on the left while doing it. That the labour party sees parties on the left as their enemy before national and ACT is beyond scarey…
“..That the labour party sees parties on the left as their enemy before national and ACT is beyond scarey…”
aye..!
..back in the 90’s @ uni doing politics..
..i argued that the rise of populism/calls for change from their left would eventually see labour embrace a grand coalition with the tories at some stage..
..and that they wd likely argue ‘stability’ as their meme to move on..
..i still stand by that argument..
..’cos the fact is that in any international ideological-spectrum visualisation..
..you can barely slide a playing card between tweedledum and tweedledee..
..with the end result for us being the neo-lib stasis we have laboured under for the last three decades..(pun intentional..)
umm no it is rational,. How old are you? “Enemies”? FFS
There are many in the Labour Party that have far more in common with their objectives than KDC, Lalalala, or R Norman. Why would they want that CF to succeed and then be thrown out of office in 2017 as it implodes.
By running dead they (the ABCs) can take over Labour and win in 2017, probably getting at least 2 terms.
Labour seems to be letting the media dictate their responses again, and like clockwork they just get jumped on from another angle once they follow the path that has been laid out for them.
It’s like they never learn that in being reactive like that, they’re always one step behind the game.
..all of the looting-bastards are making ‘record-profits’..
..and let’s not forget that our $15bn billion annual deficit..is pretty much the same amount of foreign-profits sucked out of nz..each and every year..
this is where my partial-nationalisation idea comes into play..
..the people take a 51% controlling share in those banks/supermarket duopoly etc..
..the existing shareholders have that 51% share value paid out by a mix of initial payment..followed by installments from future profits..
..nothing..aside from their ability to continue to profiteer into the future..is taken/’stolen’ from those current shareholders..
..and each near brings those partial-nationalised entities closer to freehold/people-control..
(..that takes care of half of that $15 billion..as 51% of those profits will now be returned to the people/customers..
..not sent to line the pockets of those foreign-owners..)
..and of course..having the peoples’-interests to the forefront will make it much easier to enact the raft food-regulations needed as part of the battle against the obesity epidemic that threatens to swamp out health-services/budgets..
..those bastards can no longer be allowed to just peddle sugar/salt/fat-laden crap disguised/marketed as ‘food’…
..the health-implications/outcomes from just allowing this state of the nation to continue..
I give a shit about lots of things McFlock. I give a shit about stopping damaging leftist economic policies as proposed by Mr Ure ever being implemented here in NZ.
The selling of our assets, the damping down of the RMA so that more damage can be done to the environment, the chasing of profit over everything else. The list goes on.
When you mean “us” you’re referring to the Australian shareholding owners of those banks, right? The ones who are extracting billions in profits from NZ households and SMEs and then shipping it back home to support their own lifestyles?
Yep, I reminded them of their record profits when I refixed my mortgage rate last week and said as well as not being able to afford an interest rate increase I was not prepared to line their pockets any more than I had to (all said in the most tasteful and polite possible way of course)
Got the rate reduced down from their original offer.
Cheers CV, I reckon everyone needs to go hard out with negotiations when the time comes to refix your rate. It doesn’t hurt to remind them they have profited at a time when so many are downwardly mobile and livelihoods are more insecure than previously.
The folks you’re dealing with at the call centre aren’t on great wages themselves. The person I spoke with was empathetic with our situation and didn’t deny the record profits I mentioned. Good to remember that the call centre person isn’t the director making massive bonuses and that they need to be spoken to respectfully if you want a smooth ride for your negotiation.
My concern remains around the legal issue of what banks “knew” when he signed the forms without reading them.
I find it staggering that friends testified about how honest banks is, yet he signed somthing without reading it.. Signed it as true and correct without reading it.
The legal issues covered by the decision whichever way it goes are going to be very interesting.
Don’t have time to find the relevant legislative provisions, but my understanding is that the case will probably succeed or fail on the word “knowingly” signed in the relevant legislative provision.
In other words, the relevant provision includes the word “knowingly” – and thus differs from the normal situation where ignorance is no excuse – eg in respect of contracts, general law etc.
Whichever way it goes, that word needs to be removed.
I’m wondering if a former New Zealand cricket player has made an offer David Cunliffe can’t refuse, to throw the election, after seeing him approach National about working together to get rid of coat-tailing before the election.
I disagree that it would “throw the election”. Implementing the RC’s recommendations would drop the threshold to 4% and give the IMP a pretty good underdog status to go with all that money.
4% is far far too high a threshold and is designed as a barrier to waste minor party votes. Why should a minor party not get into Parliament when it has enough votes from the electorate for an effective 3 or 4 MP size caucus.
You do realise that had this happened from the start, that you would have had the likes of Christian Heritage Party in parliament along with its leader Graham Capill. From memory, the Christian Coalition got over 4% in one of the early MMP elections
….crimes against children…crimes against women…crimes against humanity….as Christopher Hitchens said: “Where ever you find Catholicism you find fascism ”
…what does this Irish Catholic Church history of child abuse , murder and abuse of women say for the mental health of this society and religion…time to do some serious self examination!
796 Irish orphans buried in mass grave near Catholic orphanage: historian
Orphanage’s septic tank was converted to serve as body disposal site
….crimes against children…crimes against women…crimes against humanity….as Christopher Hitchens said: “Where ever you find Catholicism you find fascism ”
Just remember that Hitchens was a big supporter of the war against Saddam Hussein which eventuated in hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians dead and ongoing weekly sectarian violence.
yes I never agreed with Hitchens on that one….i was absolutely appalled by the war declared on Iraq!( scapegoating for 9/11 and false accusations of weapons of mass destruction)…i think Hitchens was sidelined in his thinking or blinded by his dislike of fundamentalist Islam and its intolerance of Gays
nevertheless Hitchens was a brilliant man and I do agree with him on that quote about Catholicism….after all there is evidence that Hitler was a Catholic to the end (check wiki)…many of his views on women, minorities , gays, the ‘immoral’ , Communists, Gypsies and the Jews were Catholic Institution views, as the feminist Gloria Steinem and numerous biographers and historians have pointed out (not his final solutions I hasten to add)…and his adviser to the end was a Catholic Priest ( incidentally there is also the suggestion that Hitler had at least one Jewish ancestor…a grandparent?)
Interesting listening to RNZ how only just now they are talking of properly recording in the LIM report if houses contain asbestos.
Gee, thank god we have ‘balanced professionals’ that come in years after the fact.
I feel so safe. Funny we are seeing the ‘lets let legislation catch up’ in the fracking industry as well.
Certain big companie,s in theory, should have some form of relationships with key supply chain companies. Now what if, in this ‘balanced & professional’ environment no one was actually recording what products came into the country containing asbestos that are used in building (there may or may not be building products). Also, is there any data that accompanies the products that details the proper handling processes?
Now consider this (I cannot comment on the accuracy of this infromation). The problem appears to me, is that we just don’t know what possible building materials etc are being imported into NZ.
How hard can it be to track stock, or for that matter compile a photographic library of past and new asbestos containing building materials…….. seriously…. I am waiting for you ” Professional & Balanced” experts to tell me this.
Deadly building materials still coming into NZ
report NZPA | Tuesday July 1 2008:
Building products with asbestos in them
are putting builders at deadly risk,
a new report commissioned by the
Department of Labour says.
The report, obtained by NZPA under the
Official Information Act,
says many builders
would not know asbestos if they saw it.
And while local manufacturing of those products
ceased in the late 1980s,
builders might also be at risk of
imported goods from countries
where there is no such ban.
New Zealand has a ban on importing
raw asbestos but no ban
on importing asbestos in goods
as long as they are labelled,
and no testing for them at ports.
Products containing asbestos
are still allowed to come into New Zealand
with absolutely no HSNO approval
from ERMA being required.
There is no comprehensive list of
the products that contain asbestos
that may currently be imported into
New Zealand
I believe most New Zealanders
who know how dangerous
asbestos is,
also believe that when the
import of raw asbestos was banned in NZ
it really meant any asbestos coming into NZ.
and did not realise that raw products meant just that.
(Who was to know that
somewhere down the line
some one with no brain whatsoever
was going to come along and say
“No problem.
It’s quite safe,
No need to worry
I’ll be long dead
before they find
out I was wrong”
IDIOTS!IDIOTS!
THAT’S WHAT WE ARE
AND THE SAD THING ABOUT IT,
IS WE JUST NEVER LEARN.
Postscript
Since the text for this article was finalized, an earthquake measuring 6.3 on the Richter Scale struck the New Zealand town of Christchurch. 14 Speaking within hours of the disaster, the country’s Prime Minister John Key said that “We may be witnessing New Zealand’s darkest day…” In the midst of strong aftershocks, emergency rescue efforts are being made to locate survivors.
Unfortunately, the ubiquity of asbestos in the country’s infrastructure adds another layer of danger to the already perilous conditions. As has been seen in the aftermath of Cyclone Yasi, the presence of asbestos-contaminated rubble in Queensland necessitated the use of specialist personnel and equipment to minimize the hazards to clean-up crews. Recalling the infamous cyclone which wiped out the Northern Territory town of Darwin in 1974, Dr. Gregory Deleuil, medical advisor to the Asbestos Diseases Society of Australia, said that, as a resident of Darwin, he had first-hand experience of the destruction. Tracy reduced his home town to “a city-sized asbestos-contaminated demolition site.” As a medical practitioner, with a specialism in asbestos-related diseases, Dr. Deleuil has diagnosed two of the emergency responders involved in the Tracy clean-up with asbestosis.15
Perhaps, the tragedy which has now occurred in New Zealand will be the incentive needed for the government to take effective action on asbestos; the first step would be a comprehensive ban on the import of all asbestos-containing products. Once this has been done, a national asbestos strategy could be implemented.
February 22, 2011
Lolz, in a comment, months ago now i commented on how ‘we’ had forced a landlord to take a rental property off the market,
Asbestos was the tool, plenty of it in old Wellington homes and the real estate company got the message that it would have to, now that Asbestos was confirmed in the building, advertise this to prospective buyers, worked a treat as well…
To succeed is to destroy ourselves. To fail is to destroy ourselves. That is the bind we have created. Ignore if you must climate change, biodiversity collapse, the depletion of water, soil, minerals, oil; even if all these issues were miraculously to vanish, the mathematics of compound growth make continuity impossible.
And that is what makes politicians and most economists delusional. They keep telling us that we need more growth despite the fact that more will destroy us.
And the sociopathic amongst them know what is coming, but think that if they can corner all the world’s resources for themselves, they will somehow get through OK. The gated community mindset writ large.
Bloody hell Draco, that’s like saying look how good building cars was for Japan and South Korea in the 60’s – 90’s, lets go building cars in Kiwiland!
I know you love the high-tech promise of the future but in an energy depleting and economically declining world – cars and spacecraft are the last things we need to double down on.
The only real problems we’re going to have in the future about energy will be cars, planes and fast ships and the reason for that will be lack of liquid fuels. Everything else? Not a problem as we don’t need to burn anything to provide them with the energy needed.
Look up the Shell refinery fire in the Netherlands which was just in the news. Look up what that refinery made for Europe and the world out of petroleum products, and with what kind of manufacturing capacity.
And then tell me that cars, planes and ships without fuel is the one and only main problem here.
Our entire global and industrial infrastructure is predicated on fossil fuels, full stop.
But that’s not a question of energy but a question of resources and, sure, hydrocarbons and their refined products are going to be in short supply but there will be substitutes for them. Can’t get the plastic for your cellphone? Not a problem, we’ll just use ceramics instead. Can’t get the synthetic fibres for that nice cloak? Just use wool (which I believe is actually better anyway).
Then there’s the concept of recycling. This also needs to be a major policy and it needs to be that everything gets recycled. We have no choice on that.
Our entire global and industrial infrastructure is predicated on fossil fuels, full stop.
You’re actually wrong there. It’s transport that predicated on fossil fuels and without that transport there’s no global economy – just local ones.
Can’t get the plastic for your cellphone? Not a problem, we’ll just use ceramics instead. Can’t get the synthetic fibres for that nice cloak? Just use wool
Some materials are somewhat fungible, in theory. But you make it sound far too easy. It comes back to the manufacturing triad of cost, quality and time. There will be major compromises in product performance and availability.
And how are you going to feed all the sheep and grow all the cotton needed to replace the millions of tonnes of polyesters used in clothing today?
Simply put – people are just going to have to make do, and most of the time, to make do without.
And we don’t need fossil fuels to get into space.
I’m happy to drill down into that if you are. As IMO you can’t build and operate a 10 person aeroplane across the Atlantic without fossil fuels, let alone get something into space.
I’m happy to drill down into that if you are. As IMO you can’t build and operate a 10 person aeroplane across the Atlantic without fossil fuels, let alone get something into space.
Hydrogen/Oxygen extracted from water using electricity produced using renewable generation.
Aluminium extracted from the Earth using electrical tools and then smelted using electricity produced using renewable generation.
Computers made the same way.
Seals and other plastics to be produced from biological sources such as hemp.
Heat shields are ceramic anyway.
No one is going to spend the money to rework any of the above to what you say. Bauxite quarries don’t run on electricity. Most modern space launch vehicles don’t run on hydrogen. The performance, reliability and knowledge of mechanical parts made of organic materials is mediocre.
Computers made the same way.
No one will be able to afford said computers. From refining silicon to obtaining rare earth metals to packaging ICs…it could theoretically all be done using renewable electricity but it won’t be.
We’ve had this debate before although it was about trains then and it comes down to one little fact – electric motors are far more powerful and reliable than diesel engines. And have the advantage of requiring less ventilation as they don’t pump the mine full of exhaust gases.
Most modern space launch vehicles don’t run on hydrogen.
That fails to prove that they can’t – especially considering that they have done before.
The performance, reliability and knowledge of mechanical parts made of organic materials is mediocre.
Then we’d better get onto the R&D.
No one will be able to afford said computers.
Renewable electricity is, as a matter of fact, cheaper than the fossil fueled stuff due to the fact that it’s not using up a finite resource for which we have more important things to do. Hell, that’s why Tiwai Point smelter was built where it is – the massive availability of cheap hydro power.
My optimism is based upon what we can do whereas you’re pessimism is based upon the delusion that it all must fall down because JMG said so.
My optimism is based upon what we can do whereas you’re pessimism is based upon the delusion that it all must fall down because JMG said so.
But JMG is right, and you’re wrong. The trajectory of the last decade (and of the end of every empire in history) clearly demonstrates that.
You keep pointing out the things which could be done hypothetically, but of course they won’t be.
For some reason you think that a modern economy will exist into the non-fossil fuel future, one which can provide us with a comparable or higher standard of living than today.
Even though you know for a fact that for most people in most nations life has been getting worse not better, for a very long time now.
Get over the bargaining stage mate you still have some way to go.
The trajectory of the last decade (and of the end of every empire in history) clearly demonstrates that.
There’s one major difference between now and every other major civilisation collapse – most people are well educated rather being ignorant. I’m quite aware that we can’t go on the way we are.
We have to get rid of the rich (and I don’t mean just getting them out of power) so that we can actually change society. If we don’t then society will collapse as it always has.
But if we get rid of the rich then that education that everyone has can be used to change our society so that it’s sustainable while maintaining a similar living standard to what we have now but with a lot less than 40 hours per week of work.
Ahem…I’m betting their tyres are made from crude oil with steel reinforcing though…but not a bad effort.
Probably but they don’t have to be. We can make plastics out of organic compounds or a combination organic and inorganic compounds. Original tyres used canvas for strengthening but the one thing we won’t be running out of is steel anyway.
There’s one major difference between now and every other major civilisation collapse – most people are well educated rather being ignorant. I’m quite aware that we can’t go on the way we are.
Yeah but education has never been a quality in the way you posit it in your statement. In fact some of the worst fuckassery of the last 20-30 years has been caused by the most qualified, best educated out of the most prestigious schools while the rest of the “educated” population sat back and believed the rational sounding intellectual nonsense and let it all happen – so were complicit with it to some degree or other.
I presume you are younger than me Draco – I am a child of the 70’s to mid 80’s – but with any luck we will both get to see how this ride turns out.
Yesterday David Cunliffe said that if elected he will take urgent action to end the danger that ‘coat tailing’ poses to NZ’s democratic process; on the same day, though, his foreign affairs spokesperson was talking blithely about Tonga’s ‘transition to democracy’, and ignoring the enormous distortion in that country’s electoral system that in 2010 allowed a handful of nobles to ignore the will of 70% of the people and form a government. With elections approaching in Tonga as well as NZ, Labour needs to add its voice to those of Tongan democrats, and help prevent a new violent crisis in the Friendly Islands: http://readingthemaps.blogspot.co.nz/2014/06/labour-and-democracy-tale-of-two.html
Mr Mallard’s asked what looked like a random question to Ms Parata about whether or not she struck a staffer. This was at a Select Committee which is in the House. Her denial is in the “House” and qualifies for the “Misleading the House” if the answer was found to be wrong. So perhaps not so random at all.
There is a personal grievance being considered.
Watch this space.
But I would hope Ducky would have a bit more than a “Romour from a reliable source” before starting down the track he has. If he can’t come up with anything concrete it just plays into the “Left use nasty politics” MeMe that is bandied around.
Dunno. All Mr Mallard did was ask a question though heavily loaded. If nothing comes of it the issue is gone by lunchtime. If National makes a fuss it will keep the possibility alive. If there is substance then look out.
(Actually weren’t there rumours about a very high turnover of staff in the Parata office a few years back? Wonder why?)
Yet the MSM already has Parata saying how offended she is. This puts the onus on Mallard to prove what he has said. This close to the election it just becomes another thing you will hear “The left are nasty and make up stuff”.
Mallard is the one with the proof, if he can get the person to come forward. But the history is certainly suggestive:
Ms Longstone quit in December [2012] over a relationship breakdown with Ms Parata. Under an exit package thrashed out with the State Services Commission, revealed this month, she received a before-tax payout of more than $425,000: $267,952 severance pay and $157,523 in outstanding holiday pay and a payment in lieu of notice.
It worked out at almost $1000 for every day she was in the job.
But Ms Parata’s relationship with Ms Longstone is not the only one under scrutiny.
Ms Parata has lost several private secretaries and a senior adviser just two months into a two-year secondment.
She also let go her senior private secretary just before Christmas.
Lots of room in there for physical bullying to have occurred. Maybe someone else wants a $1000/ day payout?
A 14% drop in house sales and no rise in rents means that there is no crisis.
Oh Dear. immigration crisis FAIL
Housing Crisis FAIL
Manufacturing crisis FAIL
Christchurch crisis FAIL
The Cunliffe FAIL
Immigration Crisis Fail = Concocted media beat up. No new policy was ever proposed just a statement that Labour would use existing tools to try and achieve a more stable net migration rate.
Housing Crises Fail = I’m not sure how a drop in house sales = no housing crisis. Perhaps that is reflective of the fact that interest rates have started to go up and the high deposits required. I know this would make you happy because it means that really only rich landlords can now afford to buy hoses in Auckland and anyone who would want to get into the market is stuffed unless they are on a very high income.
Manufacturing CRISIS Fail = I am pretty sure or economy is still largely reliant on Primary Exports and not value added products. After all it was only Manufacturers who were claiming that the sector was in Crisis and what the hell would they know that you don’t?
Christchurch Crisis Fail = Bit early to be claiming victory on this one mate. Still a lot of red zone land owners, Flooded residents and others who would argue that Vodafone moving in isn’t the end of their problems.
The Cunliff fail = Your opinion and your welcome to it.
Crammed into bad tuxedo’s and shoddy evening dresses while struggling to dine gracefully for the panning cameras – the overweight NZ glitterati and their hangers on sit ringside as the snot and gore fly from the orifices’ of the third rate palooka’s plodding lazily away from their huffing quarry. That’s all before the actually boxing begins. Spare a thought for the underpaid cleaners that have to deal to the ablusions block and car parks after that lot drain the bar. New Zealand doesn’t have it when it comes to our version of the Oscar’s or anything, really.
“National (52.5%) surges to election winning lead while Labour/ Greens (38%) slump to lowest since last New Zealand Election as Greens propose a Carbon Tax to replace the Emissions Trading Scheme”
Thats Labour on 29% and the Greens on 9% in case anyones interested
Compare the latest nat result in the “long term NZ party voting intention” chart in that poll.
Somewhere around the rough median the nats had throughout 2011.
And they could only sell assets with the assistance of an officially corrupt mp to whom they gifted an electorate.
Field defiant, Clark exposed as weakTuesday, 13 February 2007, 7:59 pm
Press Release: New Zealand National Party
Field defiant, Clark exposed as weak
Helen Clark’s leadership has been exposed as weak over Taito Phillip Field, says National Party Leader John Key.
“Helen Clark’s move tonight to start the process to expel him from the Labour Party only happened after Mr Field told the media today he was jumping ship.
“This is a Prime Minister who was prepared to cynically cling to power by continuing to exercise Mr Field’s vote, no matter what. She would have used any excuse to not act against him to maintain her slim one-vote majority.
“Mr Field, by talking to the media on Helen Clark’s big day, forced her hand.
“This is not a Prime Minister in control, but a Prime Minister in damage control.
“Helen Clark has shown no leadership. She concocted an expensive, toothless inquiry that she knew would never get to the bottom of the allegations against Mr Field.
“Then she sat on her hands when Mr Field said he would decline to co-operate with the police inquiry.
“Today, Mr Field has forced her hand by open defiance in the media.
“With a motion of no confidence in the Labour Government being voted on this Thursday, Helen Clark should immediately say whether Labour will continue to exercise Mr Field’s vote.”
Part of the Echelon system which NZ is part of and much much more, directly tapping into 9 major fibre optic cables which carry data throughout the middle east.
Note how the west is prepared to support and work with undemocratic dictators, as long as they are “our” undemocratic dictators.
Of course, this colonial behaviour while obscured by mainstream news sources in the west has been directly known and witnessed by the Middle East street for many decades.
Just a random aside about people I usually ignore for the reason that they are unpleasant and tell lies.
SSLands. Just going by the types of comments he makes, do you think he’s the kind of anti social person that believes that people in positions of service are beneath him on the social strata?
Would he talk on his phone while ordering a coffee? Would he not acknowledge the staff who brings him his coffee, not even look at them and not say thank you?
I observe this kind of behaviour on my rare outings for a coffee and wonder why these people behave the way they do. Were they not taught basic manners as a child? Are they self absorbed? Are they selfish? Or do they think that those that serve them don’t deserve their acknowledgement? Then I wonder if those people are the same RWNJ bastards that you come across on line.
RWNJ’s can still have good manners, I know some that do, but you get those that just appear to have traces of sociopathic tendencies, such as the aforementioned.
Yes that is a colossal swing towards National, but I believe it to be a rogue poll: At no point on the listed Roy Mogan results (fortnightly from Jan 2012 to present), have National polled that high nor the Greens that low. Also it doesn’t match other data I’ve seen – one of the perils of using a (nominal) 1000 person sample to extrapolate election day results from.
Interesting, though, it leads to the TV3 poll looking pretty accurate – very similar to that one.
This poll doesn’t really include the whole Internet Leadership announcement. Roy Morgan says they collected the data between 19 May -June 1st. The leadership announcement occurred on the 29th.
This poll is still reflecting the response to National’s rather left-wing flavored budget.
Labour’s policy creators should pat themselves on the back and take some of the credit for National’s bump in support – considering the inspiration for National’s budget appeared to come directly from Labour policies – Labour should be pleased that NZers respond so well to their policies; albeit watered down versions. Just next time I hope NZers give credit to whom it is due – not copycats with no ideas of their own.
I also agree that Greens are likely recorded too low, however also believe they consistently tend to get NZ First too low too and believe the same is the case here. (Greens and NZ First likely to have higher supported than indicated here).
Labour should go really very hard on driving the retirement age up. That should do more wonders. In addition, National should drop a few bombs on that proposal sometime, erm let’s say, 20 days before polling date. That should keep Labour respectably low and out of government.
Whilst you are having a bit of a laugh, please do remember that it was National imitating Labour that got National such stunning results – not the other way around.
(Just thought I had better make that clear, in case any of those Labour MPs who have currently gotten into cammo gear, so to speak, and gone AWOL shooting friendly fire might be reading and missing the sarcasm contained in your comments, get even more fueled on the righteousness of their ’cause’….whatever it might be…your guess is as good as mine….I mean…I daresay it makes sense to them in their little minds anyway….)
Remember the recent days of Labour polling in the mid to late 30% range when Cunliffe was passionately talking about a true Red Labour and how Labour wasn’t just going to be a National taking a limb off but with better anaesthetic?
“The Prime Minister must now act to restore confidence in our political system. Labour reiterates its challenge to the National government to remove the coat-tailing provisions from the Electoral Act. Our Members’ Bill is ready to go and we would support its passage prior to the election.
They just don’t seem to get that trying this this close to the election is just coming across as pure politicking, poor sportsmanship, and that they’re doing it solely to keep IMP out. Which raises the question in voters minds: Why are Labour so afraid of a left wing party?
Because it’s intimately connected with a man who’s personal background is so volatile it might explode and tarnish an entire government?
It’s not a case of being afraid of a left-wing party (though Labour’s attitude to the Greens leave much to be desire), it’s more a case of being afraid of a convicted criminal, John Banks donating, rape joke making billionaire.
They just don’t seem to get that trying this this close to the election is just coming across as pure politicking, poor sportsmanship, and that they’re doing it solely to keep IMP out.
Yep.
How many non-voters is Labour going to turn out with raising the retirement age? NONE.
How many non-voters is Labour going to turn out by cutting out coat tailing? NONE.
How many non-voters is Labour going to turn out by bashing IMP? Probably quite a few…NONE for Labour though.
It’s classic world view from the middle of the Thorndon Bubble stuff.
This is why Labour rarely sounds like it is talking to NZers out here, in the rest of the country. They’re too busy talking about inane stuff that only Thorndon bubble head types care about.
Meanwhile, the rest of the country is like, wtf is up with the Labour Party.
The numbers in bold are the Roy Morgan numbers from the second half of Sept 2011, with the differential in brackets the difference between the 2011 result and the latest Roy Morgan.
Bottom line, National are still royally fucked. In Sept 2011 the differential between Labour and National was a full eight points bigger and National still only scraped in. Plus the Greens and NZF are polling higher now than then.
Basically Labour can still win this and win it strongly, if it gets its shit sorted ASAP and presents voters with initiatives which unashamedly addresses the median New Zealanders’ concerns, not BS Thorndon bubble crap.
A sad but predictable poll. We have a mainstream media that continues to be mesmerised by JK and is rabidly anti-left. At the same time we have an ill-disciplined Labour Party focused on winning the centre by offering up a kinder-gentler moneterism (see Parker’s May announcement) while extemporising on immigration policy. None of this gives Labour a distinctive ‘brand’ with working people thereby reinforcing the widespread belief that voting is a waste of time. Meanwhile, Labour is not going to achieve any traction in the centre while National can steal their policies and scare middle class voters by painting the greens as dangerous, especially when Labour helps in the process by holding their only ally at arms length.
Some months ago Labour soared to 37% in the polls. That was when they presented themselves as a genuine left alternative. Sadly it now seems all that is forgotten as the careerists in caucus look to win in 2017. Those of us who can’t afford to wait until then have to tell them to join us or move on.
A little short documentary I just finished watching on youtube, it’s a good exploration of the consequences bad credit, pay cheque loans from an American perspective. Its mind bogglingly funded by American Express..
I think this poll shows that colmar brunton and Reid research polls, and the ipsos poll (Fairfax media) were all showing a similar result and trend, Nats up, Labs down.
We can’t keep saying that polls are rogue when they don’t suit us.
We can’t praise up roy morgan when it shows a shift the way we want and that it’s a “rogue” when it goes against what we want.
Trends are important, and currently the trend in all polls is showing Nats gaining (not that they will actually get 50%) and Labs dropping to, or below 30%.
i think the latest from Roy likes to show that ”taking the piss” is something that the Morgan organization quietly prides itself in,
If what is supposedly such a robust polling organization cannot even keep up with a small thing like the alliance between Internet and Mana Parties treating them both as separate entities in this poll then like the New Zealand based polls any belief put in such results need be accompanied with a liberal sprinkling of salt…
Polling was conducted largely, but not solely, before the merger. They couldn’t have Internet MANA because some people would have said MANA and others the Internet Party.
Anyone hear Key on National Radio news at midday – interview re the consequences if Banks decision was unfavourable.
He was saying basically that it will not affect confidence and supply. He then used an interesting term “…Parliament lifts in a few weeks anyway.” I can see the cranes being moved in already.
When his Mrs is baking and he passes through the kitchen he probably advises her not to remove the cake until it has lifted.
And that is the standard pitch – let the multiplier take effect and prosperity will ensue.
But of course from the graph we can see that isn’t really happening. And the reason is straightforward. For immigration to have a positive effect it needs to be of high value. That helps to ensure that the multiplier is large, and that the new jobs created by the cascade have a chance of being of a low enough level to soak up the remaining people on the unemployment queue.
However if you allow an unskilled migrant to come in, then the chances of creating a job that will match somebody else decrease significantly. The multiplier doesn’t have as strong an effect. More likely you will just recreate nearly the same job you just filled.
And that is what we see. Over time the number of people goes up, the number of hours demanded goes up, but the rate of under engagement stays about the same. If the total goes up and the rate stays roughly the same then the number of people unemployed, underemployed and inactive continues to go up – each one of those cases being a personal disaster for the individual involved.
And that, of course, is the effect we see when unskilled labour is brought in to NZ and we, just the same as the UK, become worse off because of it.
Unskilled labour is brought in because there is a shortage of unskilled labour, in the places they are needed.
If you are running an orchard who would you rather employ? A keen as gang from Samoa and some keen as Swedish backpackers, or some surly unskilled dope heads sent along by WINZ? It is as simple as that. These people have businesses to run.
Travel all through the South Island and you will see thousands of overseas travellers employed in cafes, marinas, and spas. Are the unemployed in South Auckland going to travel to Franz Josef to work in the tourism industry? No. Fucking. Chance.
So unless you want to see the country stop, either we will need to keep up immigration or you son will need to get your mates to start advocating policies to change society and put a rocket under the feckless and breeders. Until that happens get used to saying hi to the cute German girl when you check in for your spa session.
If you are running an orchard who would you rather employ?
Don’t really care who you’d rather employ because it’s not about what’s good for you but about what’s good for society.
Are the unemployed in South Auckland going to travel to Franz Josef to work in the tourism industry?
Wrong question. The question is actually Can they afford to travel to Franz Joseph Glacier for a minimum wage job? No. Fucking. Chance.
So unless you want to see the country stop, either we will need to keep up immigration or you son will need to get your mates to start advocating policies to change society and put a rocket under the feckless and breeders.
hes just copying and pasting from last month… in between the coalition for poverty has issued a report about the impact on kids of their parents constantly moving to follow seasonal work.
OK so the unemployed people in Christchurch can’t travel to Blenheim either?
Fuck I went to Ahipara – drowning in unemployed Maori. Stayed at the local campground where you could SEE the unemployed across the road. Who staffs the front office of the Campground, in the heart of darkest Northland? Yep, Germans.
Darkest Northland SSLands,???, the real question SSLands is not one of who you seen across the road as you communed with the Germans in the campgrounds,
You as a raving capitalist wing-nut know that the employment equation is governed by ”willing buyer, willing seller”,
Instead of pointing your scum encrusted finger at the locals for being unemployed you should have berated the owners of the camp-ground for not having hired any of the locals…
and BTW I am not talking about seasonal jobs in Westland – these are year round jobs. You are suggesting that no unemployed in the South Island can afford a bus ticket to Westland to take up jobs currently filled by thousands of temporary immigrants? Seriously, it is a fucking eye opener seeing the scale of unskilled foreigners working in these areas. Something has gone seriously wrong. But you can’t blame the employers. They are happy as can be.
Shitlands isn’t a NZer and he’s not even in NZ. It’s like he does restaurant reviews for places he’s never eaten at, while sitting in a KFC somewhere far away.
I’m in the real world. Greed and selfishness cause the decline of civilisation while cooperation builds it’s strength. This has been proven over 5000 years of recorded history.
It’s a seasonal job. So it makes no sense for them to move. There isn’t even an argument here.
Calling the Roy Morgan a rogue poll is cognitive dissonance. Will it still be a rogue when next poll shows National at 54% and the next shows 56%. Remember 64.5% agree that the country is heading in the right direction. Whacky carbon tax, rich prick tax, capital gains tax on every business , farm and bach, raising the pension age and banning coal oil and gas are hardly policies to reach 50%.
“when” the next polls shows…?
No. If you genuinely know what they’ll be, it isn’t “rogue”, it’s fraudulent.
But if the next result and the one after are in the region of 45%, then yeah, this one’s rogue.
This quote no doubt will have been written up before here. But it still stays top of the list of concerns. From Chris Trotter Bowalley Road –
The David Lange-led Labour Party won 43 percent of the popular vote in 1984 on a record turn-out of 93.7 percent of registered voters. David Cunliffe should be so lucky!
STALLED AT 30 PERCENT in the polls, Labour is still pretending it can win the General Election without help. Bluntly speaking, the party is in a state of serious, collective denial. The most frightening aspect of which, from the perspective of those New Zealanders seeking a change of government in September, is that while the condition persists National cannot possibly be defeated
I know it’s easy to make excuses for people but here in Canterbury there is huge job opportunity
When I here excuses that people can’t move to where the jobs are for some bullshit reason I just laugh
EVERYBODY in nz is descended from immigrants.
Maori sailed across the pacific to find a new life
Mine came from England/Norway/Scotland/Germany and you are telling me that some lazy arse in Auckland who is unemployed can’t move to Canterbury or south land where the jobs are because it’s to hard
The naigpuhi who in their whaka attacked Maori all round the north island in the 1820s would look at there descendents with disgust
Too lazy to travel too better their life’s
It costs thousands to move a family and their belongings from Auckland to Christchurch, Graham. Not everyone has access to that money, or wants to leave behind their friends and family.
If you weren’t such a dick you’d realise that but you’re too busy yapping on about yourself and your relatives great holiday.
I presume you’re talking about that silly “incentive” for unemployed to move from wherever (mostly Auckland?) to ChCh for the rebuild. Basically, I think that you are a just a lazy fuckwit who is too wank-arrogant or pig-stupid to think it through.
Lets completely ignore the basic risks like you have to organize a job remotely BEFORE you can get any assistance and don’t have the money for airfares. Or that there is absolutely no security on the job in the first 90 days and you can be fired at a whim. And that regardless of why you left the job, you’ll most likely have a long stand down period from WINZ.. Lets just look at the mechanics of getting you and maybe your family down to ChCh
Have you ever tried to move from rental accommodation to rental accommodation? Expensive to do because you have front up with between 4 and 8 weeks of rent in advance. Sure you are moving from a very expensive rent to a very slightly less expensive rent. But your bond from the old place is going to take between 4 and 8 weeks to arrive. You have to have money in the bank to do that. The amount that WINZ gives you is deliberately not enough to save anything.
Or you leave your family in Auckland, and just move yourself. But as soon as you do that then WINZ/CYFS starts penalising you for abandonment (the horror stories of parents trying to find work somewhere and having their kids stolen by the authorities are horrendous) and you now have two lots of rent, still a bond and advance rent.
Then you have to consider that if you take family, that you also have to cart some of your stuff. Car, kids stuff, kitchen gear, etc etc.
Last time I moved cities from Dunedin to Auckland (in 1989) with just two adults the cost was thousands, every way that I looked at it and that was just the household junk. In the end we ruthlessly pruned and I just bought a trailer. It was cheaper. Frigging hard to do that when you don’t have any savings. And I’ll bet that cost has increased a bit since then.
So effectively the government is expecting people to pick up stakes, move to a new city where there is a massive shortage of accommodation and do it with a pittance compared to the costs, to take a job that is probably at minimum wages, then offer no security of employment, and give you a good long stand-down period with no income if anything goes wrong.. Fuck off, who in their right mind would want to take that level of risk. Especially if they have kids to support.
Basically the governments plan was to have a worthless plan that virtually no-one would take up and which was pure window dressing.
It was aimed at smug lazy fuckwits like yourself who are incapable of thinking about other people and their situations without a bold dash of simple bigotry guiding your silly slogans. A pretty typical National supporter.
Perhaps you should try doing this yourself without assets, having kids, on WINZ, and being a wee bit behind in your rent. I’ll take a bet that you’d just be a complete coward and avoid every trying something that damn risky. Just another loudmouth gutless wonder…
(who will now proceed to whine that I called described him accurately, or will avoid answering)…
If you choose to turn your back on capitalism that’s your right
You don’t have to have 60 inch TVs or flash SUVs
Or expensive overseas holidays to live a happy life
But don’t ask me to fund your lifestyle
And don’t give me bullshit excuses
Have you even thought about what you said?
Or are you just sounding like an ad?
Do you not realise capitalism is coming to an end?
Neither your selfishness or your ignorant lifestyle
Will help then
My extended family arrived in Dunedin in 1848 with a suitcase
If you want to change your fate that’s what you do
You dont sit and wait for a government to help you because they never will
Only you can help your self
Everything else is just rearrangeing the deck chairs
Then you are ignorant of NZ history
Just like you are ignorant of NZ present
The 40 hour week
The break up of the big farming estates
The rural bank
NZ government has built this nation
Or at least given the people the tools to do so
Your extended family were rather laggardly weren’t they? Many families to here or Australia came over a lot earlier.
Most were economic migrants fleeing the destruction of craft jobs by mechanisation (always remember one weaver family member who arrived in aussie in the 1830s whose letters talked about the having to migrate from England to Ireland to Aussie as the mechanical mills took over) or the enclosure of the commons. Some came over after the various political purges across Europe in the 1840s.
But I guess you weren’t intelligent enough to read their letters where they laid out the desperation that caused them to migrate, preferring instead to have a mythic randian relationship with reality. I’m just surprised that you haven’t inserted a big gun (aka penis extender) in there somewhere as well.
capitalism isn’t ending
It destroyed communism
And continues to evolve
Because people like shinny cars
Big TVs
And holidays
[lprent: You appear to be astroturfing slogans rather than arguing. I have just seen a comment from you almost exactly like this one. I’d suggest you desist as it leads to inanely stupid “discussions” and I’m likely to throw you off the site (yet again) if you persist in this silly tactic.
It’d also be easier for others if you can learn to use reply or at least reference which comment you are replying to. ]
Capitalism is consuming itself
Gorging on the world’s last resources
Here that tune the piper does still play
One last song
Soon payment will be due and the younger generation will be left
With shattered dreams and desolate sacrifice zones (and your useless shiny holiday photos)
Thanks go to you
All of those were either developed by the state or unions often working against the wishes of the capitalists. If we had followed you ideology for the last 120 years or so we’d still be a poverty stricken country – just like the 19th century.
I never said anything about Dunedin. But some of my european relatives were whaling here in the 1820s and 1830s after coming over from Aussie. Many settled here by 1840. I don’t recall many coming over with the NZ Land Company settlements.
Ah.. I see. I am actually that rarity, a native born Aucklander. But I did a BSc at Waikato, and a MBA at Otago. They had better courses in my respective fields than Auckland Uni and were a lot cheaper to live in as a student.
In reply to irpent
No the reference wasn’t to some grant to move
When I was in my 20s in the late 80s
When labour was in power farming was a bit sick
I went to WA and did a seeding
Then worked in Brisbane for a while
Also moved to dunedin for a job after that
Worked in different parts of South Island for various jobs promotions etc
Only last 15 years in one place
I followed the work
Went to a city with just a bag
Had to find a job and accodomation etc
Put aside your national bad labour good hat for a second
If you don’t follow the jobs then u are stuck on the benefit and even if the government gives u a few extra bucks it’s still a shit existence
Who in the right mind wants to live in poverty
And before you say the government needs to create jobs
No government ever in New Zealand history. Has created long term sustainable jobs
We are a trading nation that can grow grass
Yes we have company’s like tait electronics or xero
But most of the country’s wealth has come from sheep or these days milk
And that won’t change any time soon
Sure you can do that and many have as single folk. But if you did, then why would you want to go to Christchurch? You are better off going to places like the Arab Emirates, as a couple of my younger Maori relatives did. Or to Aussie to run pubs. Pay is better and the bigotry is less laden with the weird overtones than Maori get here.
If you have a family as many of the skilled people required in ChCh do, then clearly Aussie is a far better bet. You will often get relocation expenses, the rules about arbitrarily firing people aren’t as draconian, and wages are better.
National has actually made the local labour market more rigid with things like the 90 day rule. It makes employees a whole lot more risk adverse when looking at employers because we have all met the arsehole ones. It is far better to go somewhere where the contracts are binding in both directions.
Also a gain Lynn
You said I was astro turfing in regards to the reply to cv
He said capitalism is dead
If you look up there is a series of
Slogans along the lines of
The end is nigh
Etc etc
From cv
It wasn’t a attempt at starting silly slogans
It was a reply
Also my understanding of nz history
Is( useing European settlement dates)
Nelson 1839
Wellington 1840
Auckland 1840
Dunedin 1848
Christchurch 1852
So 1848 not really that late
Yes there were a few traders/ whalers before that date but not many European people
So it wasn’t until the New Zealand company and their off shoots arrived that the numbers of Europeans changed
I am pleased to say the as far as I know none of my family had a free boat ride to NSW
We skipped that part and went straight to god zones
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This is a re-post from Yale Climate Connections by Sarah SpengemanPeople wait to board an electric bus in Pune, India. (Image credit: courtesy of ITDP) Public transportation riders in Pune, India, love the city’s new electric buses so much they will actually skip an older diesel bus that ...
The infrastructure industry yesterday issued a “hurry up” message to the Government, telling it to get cracking on developing a pipeline of infrastructure projects.The hiatus around the change of Government has seen some major projects cancelled and others delayed, and there is uncertainty about what will happen with the new ...
Hi,Over the weekend I revisited a podcast I really adore, Dead Eyes. It’s about a guy who got fired from Band of Brothers over two decades ago because Tom Hanks said he had “dead eyes”.If you don’t recall — 2001’s Band of Brothers was part of the emerging trend of ...
Buzz from the Beehive The 180 or so recipients of letters from the Government telling them how to submit infrastructure projects for “fast track” consideration includes some whose project applications previously have been rejected by the courts. News media were quick to feature these in their reports after RMA Reform Minister Chris ...
It would not be a desirable way to start your holiday by breaking your back, your head, or your wrist, but on our first hour in Singapore I gave it a try.We were chatting, last week, before we started a meeting of Hazel’s Enviro Trust, about the things that can ...
Calling all journalists, academics, planners, lawyers, political activists, environmentalists, and other members of the public who believe that the relationships between vested interests and politicians need to be scrutinised. We need to work together to make sure that the new Fast-Track Approvals Bill – currently being pushed through by the ...
Feel worried. Shane Jones and a couple of his Cabinet colleagues are about to be granted the power to override any and all objections to projects like dams, mines, roads etc even if: said projects will harm biodiversity, increase global warming and cause other environmental harms, and even if ...
Bryce Edwards writes- The ability of the private sector to quickly establish major new projects making use of the urban and natural environment is to be supercharged by the new National-led Government. Yesterday it introduced to Parliament one of its most significant reforms, the Fast Track Approvals Bill. ...
Michael Bassett writes – If you think there is a move afoot by the radical Maori fringe of New Zealand society to create a parallel system of government to the one that we elect at our triennial elections, you aren’t wrong. Over the last few days we have ...
Without a corresponding drop in interest rates, it’s doubtful any changes to the CCCFA will unleash a massive rush of home buyers. Photo: Lynn GrievesonTL;DR: The six things that stood out to me in Aotearoa’s political economy around housing, poverty and climate on Monday, April 22 included:The Government making a ...
Sunday was a lazy day. I started watching Jack Tame on Q&A, the interviews are usually good for something to write about. Saying the things that the politicians won’t, but are quite possibly thinking. Things that are true and need to be extracted from between the lines.As you might know ...
In our Weekly Roundup last week we covered news from Auckland Transport that the WX1 Western Express is going to get an upgrade next year with double decker electric buses. As part of the announcement, AT also said “Since we introduced the WX1 Western Express last November we have seen ...
TL;DR: The six key events to watch in Aotearoa-NZ’s political economy in the week to April 29 include:PM Christopher Luxon is scheduled to hold a post-Cabinet news conference at 4 pm today. Stats NZ releases its statutory report on Census 2023 tomorrow.Finance Minister Nicola Willis delivers a pre-Budget speech at ...
A listing of 29 news and opinion articles we found interesting and shared on social media during the past week: Sun, April 14, 2024 thru Sat, April 20, 2024. Story of the week Our story of the week hinges on these words from the abstract of a fresh academic ...
The ability of the private sector to quickly establish major new projects making use of the urban and natural environment is to be supercharged by the new National-led Government. Yesterday it introduced to Parliament one of its most significant reforms, the Fast Track Approvals Bill. The Government says this will ...
This is a column to say thank you. So many of have been in touch since Mum died to say so many kind and thoughtful things. You’re wonderful, all of you. You’ve asked how we’re doing, how Dad’s doing. A little more realisation each day, of the irretrievable finality of ...
Identifying the engine type in your car is crucial for various reasons, including maintenance, repairs, and performance upgrades. Knowing the specific engine model allows you to access detailed technical information, locate compatible parts, and make informed decisions about modifications. This comprehensive guide will provide you with a step-by-step approach to ...
Introduction: The allure of racing is undeniable. The thrill of speed, the roar of engines, and the exhilaration of competition all contribute to the allure of this adrenaline-driven sport. For those who yearn to experience the pinnacle of racing, becoming a race car driver is the ultimate dream. However, the ...
Introduction Automobiles have become ubiquitous in modern society, serving as a primary mode of transportation and a symbol of economic growth and personal mobility. With countless vehicles traversing roads and highways worldwide, it begs the question: how many cars are there in the world? Determining the precise number is a ...
Maintaining a safe and reliable vehicle requires regular inspections. Whether it’s a routine maintenance checkup or a safety inspection, knowing how long the process will take can help you plan your day accordingly. This article delves into the factors that influence the duration of a car inspection and provides an ...
Mazda Motor Corporation, commonly known as Mazda, is a Japanese multinational automaker headquartered in Fuchu, Aki District, Hiroshima Prefecture, Japan. The company was founded in 1920 as the Toyo Cork Kogyo Co., Ltd., and began producing vehicles in 1931. Mazda is primarily known for its production of passenger cars, but ...
Your car battery is an essential component that provides power to start your engine, operate your electrical systems, and store energy. Over time, batteries can weaken and lose their ability to hold a charge, which can lead to starting problems, power failures, and other issues. Replacing your battery before it ...
In most states, you cannot register a car without a valid driver’s license. However, there are a few exceptions to this rule. Exceptions to the RuleIf you are under 18 years old: In some states, you can register a car in your name even if you do not ...
Mazda, a Japanese automotive manufacturer with a rich history of innovation and engineering excellence, has emerged as a formidable player in the global car market. Known for its reputation of producing high-quality, fuel-efficient, and driver-oriented vehicles, Mazda has consistently garnered praise from industry experts and consumers alike. In this article, ...
Struts are an essential part of a car’s suspension system. They are responsible for supporting the weight of the car and damping the oscillations of the springs. Struts are typically made of steel or aluminum and are filled with hydraulic fluid. How Do Struts Work? Struts work by transferring the ...
Car registration is a mandatory process that all vehicle owners must complete annually. This process involves registering your car with the Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV) and paying an associated fee. The registration process ensures that your vehicle is properly licensed and insured, and helps law enforcement and other authorities ...
Zoom is a video conferencing service that allows you to share your screen, webcam, and audio with other participants. In addition to sharing your own audio, you can also share the audio from your computer with other participants. This can be useful for playing music, sharing presentations with audio, or ...
Building your own computer can be a rewarding and cost-effective way to get a high-performance machine tailored to your specific needs. However, it also requires careful planning and execution, and one of the most important factors to consider is the time it will take. The exact time it takes to ...
Sleep mode is a power-saving state that allows your computer to quickly resume operation without having to boot up from scratch. This can be useful if you need to step away from your computer for a short period of time but don’t want to shut it down completely. There are ...
Introduction Computer-Assisted Translation (CAT) has revolutionized the field of translation by harnessing the power of technology to assist human translators in their work. This innovative approach combines specialized software with human expertise to improve the efficiency, accuracy, and consistency of translations. In this comprehensive article, we will delve into the ...
In today’s digital age, mobile devices have become an indispensable part of our daily lives. Among the vast array of portable computing options available, iPads and tablet computers stand out as two prominent contenders. While both offer similar functionalities, there are subtle yet significant differences between these two devices. This ...
A computer is an electronic device that can be programmed to carry out a set of instructions. The basic components of a computer are the processor, memory, storage, input devices, and output devices. The Processor The processor, also known as the central processing unit (CPU), is the brain of the ...
Voice Memos is a convenient app on your iPhone that allows you to quickly record and store audio snippets. These recordings can be useful for a variety of purposes, such as taking notes, capturing ideas, or recording interviews. While you can listen to your voice memos on your iPhone, you ...
Laptop screens are essential for interacting with our devices and accessing information. However, when lines appear on the screen, it can be frustrating and disrupt productivity. Understanding the underlying causes of these lines is crucial for finding effective solutions. Types of Screen Lines Horizontal lines: Also known as scan ...
Right-clicking is a common and essential computer operation that allows users to access additional options and settings. While most desktop computers have dedicated right-click buttons on their mice, laptops often do not have these buttons due to space limitations. This article will provide a comprehensive guide on how to right-click ...
Powering up and shutting down your ASUS laptop is an essential task for any laptop user. Locating the power button can sometimes be a hassle, especially if you’re new to ASUS laptops. This article will provide a comprehensive guide on where to find the power button on different ASUS laptop ...
Dell laptops are renowned for their reliability, performance, and versatility. Whether you’re a student, a professional, or just someone who needs a reliable computing device, a Dell laptop can meet your needs. However, if you’re new to Dell laptops, you may be wondering how to get started. In this comprehensive ...
Two-thirds of the country think that “New Zealand’s economy is rigged to advantage the rich and powerful”. They also believe that “New Zealand needs a strong leader to take the country back from the rich and powerful”. These are just two of a handful of stunning new survey results released ...
Te Pāti Māori are demanding the New Zealand Government support an international independent investigation into mass graves that have been uncovered at two hospitals on the Gaza strip, following weeks of assault by Israeli troops. Among the 392 bodies that have been recovered, are children and elderly civilians. Many of ...
Our two-tiered system for veterans’ support is out of step with our closest partners, and all parties in Parliament should work together to fix it, Labour veterans’ affairs spokesperson Greg O’Connor said. ...
Stripping two Ministers of their portfolios just six months into the job shows Christopher Luxon’s management style is lacking, Labour Leader Chris Hipkins said. ...
Tonight’s court decision to overturn the summons of the Children’s Minister has enabled the Crown to continue making decisions about Māori without evidence, says Te Pāti Māori spokesperson for Children, Mariameno Kapa-Kingi. “The judicial system has this evening told the nation that this government can do whatever they want when ...
It appears Nicola Willis is about to pull the rug out from under the feet of local communities still dealing with the aftermath of last year’s severe weather, and local councils relying on funding to build back from these disasters. ...
The Government is making short-sighted changes to the Resource Management Act (RMA) that will take away environmental protection in favour of short-term profits, Labour’s environment spokesperson Rachel Brooking said today. ...
Labour welcomes the release of the report into the North Island weather events and looks forward to working with the Government to ensure that New Zealand is as prepared as it can be for the next natural disaster. ...
The Labour Party has called for the New Zealand Government to recognise Palestine, as a material step towards progressing the two-State solution needed to achieve a lasting peace in the region. ...
Some of our country’s most important work, stopping the sexual exploitation of children and violent extremism could go along with staff on the frontline at ports and airports. ...
The Government’s Fast Track Approvals Bill will give projects such as new coal mines a ‘get out of jail free’ card to wreak havoc on the environment, Labour Leader Chris Hipkins said today. ...
The government's decision to reintroduce Three Strikes is a destructive and ineffective piece of law-making that will only exacerbate an inherently biased and racist criminal justice system, said Te Pāti Māori Justice Spokesperson, Tākuta Ferris, today. During the time Three Strikes was in place in Aotearoa, Māori and Pasifika received ...
Cuts to frontline hospital staff are not only a broken election promise, it shows the reckless tax cuts have well and truly hit the frontline of the health system, says Labour Health spokesperson Ayesha Verrall. ...
The Green Party has joined the call for public submissions on the fast-track legislation to be extended after the Ombudsman forced the Government to release the list of organisations invited to apply just hours before submissions close. ...
New Zealand’s good work at reducing climate emissions for three years in a row will be undone by the National government’s lack of ambition and scrapping programmes that were making a difference, Labour Party climate spokesperson Megan Woods said today. ...
More essential jobs could be on the chopping block, this time Ministry of Education staff on the school lunches team are set to find out whether they're in line to lose their jobs. ...
Te Pāti Māori is disgusted at the confirmation that hundreds are set to lose their jobs at Oranga Tamariki, and the disestablishment of the Treaty Response Unit. “This act of absolute carelessness and out of touch decision making is committing tamariki to state abuse.” Said Te Pāti Māori Oranga Tamariki ...
The Government is trying to bring in a law that will allow Ministers to cut corners and kill off native species, Labour environment spokesperson Rachel Brooking said. ...
Cancelling urgently needed new Cook Strait ferries and hiking the cost of public transport for many Kiwis so that National can announce the prospect of another tunnel for Wellington is not making good choices, Labour Transport Spokesperson Tangi Utikere said. ...
A laundry list of additional costs for Tāmaki Makarau Auckland shows the Minister for the city is not delivering for the people who live there, says Labour Auckland Issues spokesperson Shanan Halbert. ...
Te Pāti Māori co-leader Rawiri Waititi, and Mema Paremata mō Tāmaki-Makaurau, Takutai Tarsh Kemp, will travel to the Gold Coast to strengthen ties with Māori in Australia next week (15-21 April). The visit, in the lead-up to the 9th Australian National Kapa haka Festival, will be an opportunity for both ...
The Green Party has today launched a step-by-step guide to help New Zealanders make their voice heard on the Government’s democracy dodging and anti-environment fast track legislation. ...
The National Government’s proposed changes to the Residential Tenancies Act will mean tenants can be turfed from their homes by landlords with little notice, Labour housing spokesperson Kieran McAnulty said. ...
Green Party co-leader Marama Davidson is calling on all parties to support a common-sense change that’s great for the planet and great for consumers after her member’s bill was drawn from the ballot today. ...
A significant milestone has been reached in the fight to strike an anti-Pasifika and unfair law from the country’s books after Teanau Tuiono’s members’ bill passed its first reading. ...
New Zealand has today missed the opportunity to uphold the right to a clean, healthy, and sustainable environment, says James Shaw after his member’s bill was voted down in its first reading. ...
Today’s advice from the Climate Change Commission paints a sobering reality of the challenge we face in combating climate change, especially in light of recent Government policy announcements. ...
Minister for Disability Issues Penny Simmonds appears to have delayed a report back to Cabinet on the progress New Zealand is making against international obligations for disabled New Zealanders. ...
Ambassador Millar, Burgemeester, Vandepitte, Excellencies, military representatives, distinguished guests, ladies and gentlemen – good morning and welcome to this sacred Anzac Day dawn service. It is an honour to be here on behalf of the Government and people of New Zealand at Buttes New British Cemetery, Polygon Wood – a deeply ...
Distinguished guests - It is an honour to return once again to this site which, as the resting place for so many of our war-dead, has become a sacred place for generations of New Zealanders. Our presence here and at the other special spaces of Gallipoli is made ...
Mai ia tawhiti pamamao, te moana nui a Kiwa, kua tae whakaiti mai matou, ki to koutou papa whenua. No koutou te tapuwae, no matou te tapuwae, kua honoa pumautia. Ko nga toa kua hinga nei, o te Waipounamu, o te Ika a Maui, he okioki tahi me o ...
Paul Goldsmith will take on responsibility for the Media and Communications portfolio, while Louise Upston will pick up the Disability Issues portfolio, Prime Minister Christopher Luxon announced today. “Our Government is relentlessly focused on getting New Zealand back on track. As issues change in prominence, I plan to adjust Ministerial ...
Recreational catch limits will be reduced in areas of Fiordland and the Chatham Islands to help keep those fisheries healthy and sustainable, Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones says. The lower recreational daily catch limits for a range of finfish and shellfish species caught in the Fiordland Marine Area and ...
Energy Minister Simeon Brown has welcomed an important milestone in New Zealand’s hydrogen future, with the opening of the country’s first network of hydrogen refuelling stations in Wiri. “I want to congratulate the team at Hiringa Energy and its partners K one W one (K1W1), Mitsui & Co New Zealand ...
The coalition Government is delivering on its commitment to improve resource management laws and give greater certainty to consent applicants, with a Bill to amend the Resource Management Act (RMA) expected to be introduced to Parliament next month. RMA Reform Minister Chris Bishop has today outlined the first RMA Amendment ...
Overseas models for regulating the oil and gas sector, including their decommissioning regimes, are being carefully scrutinised as a potential template for New Zealand’s own sector, Resources Minister Shane Jones says. The Coalition Government is focused on rebuilding investor confidence in New Zealand’s energy sector as it looks to strengthen ...
Emergency Management and Recovery Minister Mark Mitchell has today released the Report of the Government Inquiry into the response to the North Island Severe Weather Events. “The report shows that New Zealand’s emergency management system is not fit-for-purpose and there are some significant gaps we need to address,” Mr Mitchell ...
Justice Minister Paul Goldsmith is today travelling to Europe where he’ll update the United Nations Human Rights Council on the Government’s work to restore law and order. “Attending the Universal Periodic Review in Geneva provides us with an opportunity to present New Zealand’s human rights progress, priorities, and challenges, while ...
Associate Agriculture Minister, Mark Patterson, formally reopened the world’s largest wool processing facility today in Awatoto, Napier, following a $50 million rebuild and refurbishment project. “The reopening of this facility will significantly lift the economic opportunities available to New Zealand’s wool sector, which already accounts for 20 per cent of ...
Hon Andrew Bayly, Minister for Small Business and Manufacturing At the Southland Otago Regional Engineering Collective (SOREC) Summit, 18 April, Dunedin Ngā mihi nui, Ko Andrew Bayly aho, Ko Whanganui aho Good Afternoon and thank you for inviting me to open your summit today. I am delighted ...
The Government is delivering on its commitment to bring back the Three Strikes legislation, Associate Justice Minister Nicole McKee announced today. “Our Government is committed to restoring law and order and enforcing appropriate consequences on criminals. We are making it clear that repeat serious violent or sexual offending is not ...
Foreign Minister Winston Peters has today announced four new diplomatic appointments for New Zealand’s overseas missions. “Our diplomats have a vital role in maintaining and protecting New Zealand’s interests around the world,” Mr Peters says. “I am pleased to announce the appointment of these senior diplomats from the ...
New Zealand is contributing NZ$7 million to support communities affected by severe food insecurity and other urgent humanitarian needs in Ethiopia and Somalia, Foreign Minister Rt Hon Winston Peters announced today. “Over 21 million people are in need of humanitarian assistance across Ethiopia, with a further 6.9 million people ...
Minister for Arts, Culture and Heritage Paul Goldsmith is congratulating Mataaho Collective for winning the Golden Lion for best participant in the main exhibition at the Venice Biennale. "Congratulations to the Mataaho Collective for winning one of the world's most prestigious art prizes at the Venice Biennale. “It is good ...
The Government is reforming financial services to improve access to home loans and other lending, and strengthen customer protections, Commerce and Consumer Affairs Minister Andrew Bayly and Housing Minister Chris Bishop announced today. “Our coalition Government is committed to rebuilding the economy and making life simpler by cutting red tape. We are ...
“China remains a strong commercial opportunity for Kiwi exporters as Chinese businesses and consumers continue to value our high-quality safe produce,” Trade and Agriculture Minister Todd McClay says. Mr McClay has returned to New Zealand following visits to Beijing, Harbin and Shanghai where he met ministers, governors and mayors and engaged in trade and agricultural events with the New ...
Prime Minister Christopher Luxon has completed a successful trip to Singapore, Thailand and the Philippines, deepening relationships and capitalising on opportunities. Mr Luxon was accompanied by a business delegation and says the choice of countries represents the priority the New Zealand Government places on South East Asia, and our relationships in ...
New Zealand is demonstrating its commitment to reducing global greenhouse emissions, and supporting clean energy transition in South East Asia, through a contribution of NZ$41 million (US$25 million) in climate finance to the Asian Development Bank (ADB)-led Energy Transition Mechanism (ETM). Prime Minister Christopher Luxon and Climate Change Minister Simon Watts announced ...
The Government is today releasing a list of organisations who received letters about the Fast-track applications process, says RMA Reform Minister Chris Bishop. “Recently Ministers and agencies have received a series of OIA requests for a list of organisations to whom I wrote with information on applying to have a ...
Attorney-General Judith Collins today announced the appointment of Wellington Barrister David Jonathan Boldt as a Judge of the High Court, and the Honourable Justice Matthew Palmer as a Judge of the Court of Appeal. Justice Boldt graduated with an LLB from Victoria University of Wellington in 1990, and also holds ...
Education Minister Erica Stanford will lead the New Zealand delegation at the 2024 International Summit on the Teaching Profession (ISTP) held in Singapore. The delegation includes representatives from the Post Primary Teachers’ Association (PPTA) Te Wehengarua and the New Zealand Educational Institute (NZEI) Te Riu Roa. The summit is co-hosted ...
A stopbank upgrade project in Tairawhiti partly funded by the Government has increased flood resilience for around 7000ha of residential and horticultural land so far, Regional Development Minister Shane Jones says. Mr Jones today attended a dawn service in Gisborne to mark the end of the first stage of the ...
Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Peters will represent the Government at Anzac Day commemorations on the Gallipoli Peninsula next week and engage with senior representatives of the Turkish government in Istanbul. “The Gallipoli campaign is a defining event in our history. It will be a privilege to share the occasion ...
Science, Innovation and Technology and Defence Minister Judith Collins will next week attend the OECD Science and Technology Ministerial conference in Paris and Anzac Day commemorations in Belgium. “Science, innovation and technology have a major role to play in rebuilding our economy and achieving better health, environmental and social outcomes ...
Prime Minister Christopher Luxon held a bilateral meeting today with the President of the Philippines, Ferdinand Marcos Jr. The Prime Minister was accompanied by MP Paulo Garcia, the first Filipino to be elected to a legislature outside the Philippines. During today’s meeting, Prime Minister Luxon and President Marcos Jr discussed opportunities to ...
The Government has announced that $20 million in funding will be made available to Westport to fund much needed flood protection around the town. This measure will significantly improve the resilience of the community, says Local Government Minister Simeon Brown. “The Westport community has already been allocated almost $3 million ...
The Government is proud to support the first ever Repco Supercars Championship event in Taupō as up to 70,000 motorsport fans attend the Taupō International Motorsport Park this weekend, says Economic Development Minister Melissa Lee. “Anticipation for the ITM Taupō Super400 is huge, with tickets and accommodation selling out weeks ...
Local Government Minister Simeon Brown has announced an increase to the Rates Rebate Scheme, putting money back into the pockets of low-income homeowners. “The coalition Government is committed to bringing down the cost of living for New Zealanders. That includes targeted support for those Kiwis who are doing things tough, such ...
The Coalition Government is investing in a project to boost survival rates of New Zealand mussels and grow the industry, Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones has announced. “This project seeks to increase the resilience of our mussels and significantly boost the sector’s productivity,” Mr Jones says. “The project - ...
Benefit figures released today underscore the importance of the Government’s plan to rebuild the economy and have 50,000 fewer people on Jobseeker Support, Social Development and Employment Minister Louise Upston says. “Benefit numbers are still significantly higher than when National was last in government, when there was about 70,000 fewer ...
The Government’s commitment to doubling New Zealand’s renewable energy capacity is backed by new data showing that clean energy has helped the country reach its lowest annual gross emissions since 1999, Climate Change Minister Simon Watts says. New Zealand’s latest Greenhouse Gas Inventory (1990-2022) published today, shows gross emissions fell ...
The Government is bringing the earthquake-prone building review forward, with work to start immediately, and extending the deadline for remediations by four years, Building and Construction Minister Chris Penk says. “Our Government is focused on rebuilding the economy. A key part of our plan is to cut red tape that ...
Prime Minister Christopher Luxon and his Thai counterpart, Prime Minister Srettha Thavisin, have today agreed that New Zealand and the Kingdom of Thailand will upgrade the bilateral relationship to a Strategic Partnership by 2026. “New Zealand and Thailand have a lot to offer each other. We have a strong mutual desire to build ...
RMA Reform Minister Chris Bishop and Transport Minister Simeon Brown have today announced the Coalition Government’s intention to extend port coastal permits for a further 20 years, providing port operators with certainty to continue their operations. “The introduction of the Resource Management Act in 1991 required ports to obtain coastal ...
Today’s announcement that inflation is down to 4 per cent is encouraging news for Kiwis, but there is more work to be done - underlining the importance of the Government’s plan to get the economy back on track, acting Finance Minister Chris Bishop says. “Inflation is now at 4 per ...
Refreshed health guidance released today will help parents and schools make informed decisions about whether their child needs to be in school, addressing one of the key issues affecting school attendance, says Associate Education Minister David Seymour. In recent years, consistently across all school terms, short-term illness or medical reasons ...
Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones is streamlining high-level oceans management while maintaining a focus on supporting the sector’s role in the export-led recovery of the economy. “I am working to realise the untapped potential of our fishing and aquaculture sector. To achieve that we need to be smarter with ...
I was initially resistant to the idea often suggested to me that the Government should deliver an arts strategy. The whole point of the arts and creativity is that people should do whatever the hell they want, unbound by the dictates of politicians in Wellington. Peter Jackson, Kiri Te Kanawa, Eleanor ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Adrian Beaumont, Election Analyst (Psephologist) at The Conversation; and Honorary Associate, School of Mathematics and Statistics, The University of Melbourne The Queensland state election will be held in October. A YouGov poll for The Courier Mail, conducted April 9–17 from a sample ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Amin Naeni, PhD candidate at Alfred Deakin Institute for Citizenship and Globalisation, Deakin University There’s been much talk in recent months about what a possible second Donald Trump presidency in the United States could mean for Europe, Russia’s war in Ukraine, the ...
A brief round-up of submissions on the controversial proposed law. This is an excerpt from our weekly environmental newsletter Future Proof. Sign up here. Last week, submissions on the controversial Fast-track Approvals Bill closed just hours after the government released a list of stakeholder organisations who were sent letters advising how they could ...
A poem from Robin Peace’s new collection Detritus of Empire: feather / grass / rock. Cereal giving I see a woman’s hands, see her curious hands break a stalk as she walks through the tall prairie, the savannah, the steppe, wherever it was. See her idly bite the grass that ...
The only published and available best-selling indie book chart in New Zealand is the top 10 sales list recorded every week at Unity Books’ stores in High St, Auckland, and Willis St, Wellington.AUCKLAND1 Hemingway’s Goblet by Dermot Ross (Mary Egan Publishing, $38)A handsomely produced (debossed cover, lovely ...
The Commissioner's decision validates the longstanding efforts of the local community and ensures that Awataha Marae will be managed to serve the needs of the local community, particularly for hosting tangihanga. ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Tristan Salles, Associate professor, University of Sydney Examples of Australian landscapes.Unsplash Seventy thousand years ago, the sea level was much lower than today. Australia, along with New Guinea and Tasmania, formed a connected landmass known as Sahul. Around this time – ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Felicity Castagna, Lecturer, Creative Writing, Western Sydney University Day Day Market, ParramattaPhoto: Garry Trinh I live on the edge of Parramatta, Australia’s fastest-growing city, on the kind of old-fashioned suburban street that has 1950s fibros constructed in the post-war housing boom, ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Michael Ryan, Teaching Fellow in Economics, University of Waikato GettyImagesfatido/Getty Images There is an ongoing global debate over whether the high inflation seen in the aftermath of the COVID-19 pandemic can be lowered without a recession. New Zealand is not ...
The ‘Wicked Game’ heartthrob is in his late 60s now. That didn’t stop him putting on a lively, goofy and very sparkly show. Apart from ‘Wicked Game’, which graces a sultry playlist of mine simply called 💋, my last sustained Chris Isaak listening session took place when I was about ...
Analysis - Two ministers were stripped of portfolios in a warning to Cabinet, drama broke out at the Waitangi Tribunal, and the gang patch ban bill ran into opposition. ...
Tara Ward makes an impassioned plea for some vital pop culture merch. In April 1999, I became obsessed with a new reality television show called Popstars. Every Tuesday night, five strangers transformed into music royalty before my very eyes as Joe, Keri, Carly, Erika and Megan were chosen to form ...
PNG Post-Courier In the early hours of ANZAC Day, aerial photographs captured an impressive gathering of Australians and Papua New Guineans at Isurava in the Northern (Oro) Province. The solemn dawn service yesterday was held at a site steeped in history, where some of the fiercest battles of World War ...
The PSA is shocked that Oranga Tamariki has used the cost cutting drive to downgrade its commitment to Te Ao Māori and remove many specialist Māori roles. ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Ian Kemish, Adjunct Professor, School of Historical and Philosophical Inquiry, The University of Queensland There can be no more powerful symbol of the relationship between Australia and Papua New Guinea than the prime ministers of these neighbouring countries walking together on the ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Sharon Robinson, Distinguished Professor and Deputy Director of ARC Securing Antarctica’s Environmental Future (SAEF), University of Wollongong, University of Wollongong Andrew Netherwood Over the last 25 years, the ozone hole which forming over Antarctica each spring has started to shrink. ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Viktoria Kahui, Senior Lecturer in Environmental Economics, University of Otago Getty Images/Amy Toensing Biodiversity is declining at rates unprecedented in human history. This suggests the ways we currently use to manage our natural environment are failing. One emerging concept focuses on ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Timothy Colin Bednall, Associate Professor in Management, Swinburne University of Technology marvent/Shutterstock Finding the best person to fill a position can be tough, from drafting a job ad to producing a shortlist of top interview candidates. Employers typically consider information from ...
Wondering where to host your next BYO? Whether its a small gathering or a massive party, we’ve got some recommendations. I was first introduced to the concept of BYOs at Dunedin’s India Gardens, a legendary but sadly defunct establishment, which purveyed enormous quantities of mango chicken to Aotearoa’s drunkest future ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Julien Cooper, Honorary Lecturer, Department of History and Archaeology, Macquarie University Julien Cooper The hyper-arid desert of Eastern Sudan, the Atbai Desert, seems like an unlikely place to find evidence of ancient cattle herders. But in this dry environment, my new ...
The sector says it’s hopeful her replacement Paul Goldsmith will be able to throw it a lifeline, after six months with a minister deemed missing in action, writes Catherine McGregor in this excerpt from The Bulletin, The Spinoff’s morning news round-up. To receive The Bulletin in full each weekday, sign ...
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It will be interesting to see if Jan Wright’s report on Fracking, and the disposal of fracking waste on landfarms, spurs on the Labour Party to get off the fence on this issue. Her report exposes the almost total lack of controls on the oil and gas industry. So much for World Class regulations, turns out fracking wells come under the same rulings as drilling wells for water!!??Nicky Kaye needs to take the food safety issues seriously too as cattle are grazing on chemical and oil product dumps. Fonterra have acknowledged the risks as they refuse to pick up milk produced on these landfarms. Simon Bridges also needs to be taken to task for his grovelling to oil industry lobby. Ok Labour where do you stand on these issues?
they will stand a little to the left of national.
Jan wrights report will be in the growing pile of reports john key doesnt read…
Mmp review
Police report of john banks
Report saying regs not good enough for mining and drilling
I saw something Labour on Stuff last night, but can’t find it anywhere now (checked in both Politics and Environment).
This in the ODT seems to be much the same quote:
http://www.odt.co.nz/news/business/304751/fracking-debate-reopens-new-report
I’m with those calling for a moratorium on both fracking and “land-farming” (spreading the toxic waste byproducts on farmland). I also note that to say; “oil and gas drilling could be done safely”, you have to completely ignore the climate consequences of burning all those fossil hydrocarbons.
I thought “oil and gas drilling could be done safely” means – with the facts that oversight/regulation is inadequate etc – that its not likely to be done safely anywhere else in NZ and therefore cannot be done until these regulations etc are put in place. Which is similar to what Labour has been saying : which, in effect, is a different way of calling for a moratorium without actually spelling it out.
another report John Key won’t read .. this is a frightening issue requiring very bright public sunlight, particularly in NZ … and yes, it’s by reputable scientists even.
http://www.motherjones.com/blue-marble/2013/07/earthquakes-triggered-more-earthquakes-near-us-fracking-sites
And if you are not familiar with Mother Jones magazine … it is a trustworthy independent news source and well worth a visit imho.
harre is on tvone breakast in a few mins..
..to talk about legalising pot..
Legalise it don’t criticise it Dept:
Internet Party has definite appeal, Loomio helping with tech side and membership consultation. How long would Labours super at 67 last with this type of onto it approach?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=g93GW-2hS4A
What is innovative about Loomio? I was looking at the IP’s use of it yesterday. It just looked like an ordinary online forum focused on policy ideas.
the innovation is more political..
(..tho’ i do like the pie-graphs giving real-time readings of both the members’ views..and which percentage of those members have expressed their opinions on that policy..
..last nite 71% of members had voted..and were 80% in favour of legalisation..)
..giving members the best input on policy of any party i have seen/been involved with..
..you are against that karol..?
..and as already noted..how long to you think labours’ super-age raising policy wd last..
..should labour loomio their policies..?
..policy-making in most parties is top-down driven..
..and presented to members as a fait accomplit..
..and that is not democracy in action..
..so karol..there is yr ‘innovation’..eh..?..(and the pie-graphs/real-time collating/presenting of the moods..
..yr run-of-the-mill forums dont have that facility..
..it is like the tick-up/tick down used at the daily blog..on steroids..
..and has much to commend it..)
I’ve nothing against the discussion at all. Just asking about Loomio. I’ve used forums in the past that had real time polls running. So what’s innovative about Loomio? I keep hearing it’s some great new democratic innovation. i don’t see it as being any more democratic as a technology than any other forums.
PS: My question is about Loomio. It has nothing to do with IP consulting with members to develop policy.
I was wondering the same thing. I heard Mike Williams on rnz the other day saying he’d seen the software teh IP was using and it was like nothing anyone could have imagined or some such waffle.
In hindsight I suppose it is Williams. An internet forum is probably beyond his wildest dreams.
Only thing that I can see is that it has some built in presentation tools that forum users can use in their posts and also they have more choices of action than the old fashioned internet forum polls eg in Loomio you can choose to record your abstention from a vote being taken
Someone should build some software that catches all the Labour MP’s social media responses before they are published and vets them.
Either that or they should write a bot that makes Labour MPs social media responses for them 😈
I thought Textor Crosby already had written that bot, and NAct had paid for it.
On the face of it, you’re right, it’s not significantly different from other platforms.
Basically it comes down to features and usability. I assume it allows the administrators to set up the site so that certain users can create ‘polls’, and other users can easily vote and comment on those polls, and it aggregates the results for each individual poll or set of polls into a standard, easy to use/view format. The ease and power with which this can be done mean that although the actual approach and idea is not actual new or revolutionary, because the software makes it so easy to do and manage, it can actually happen in practice and be used.
Think of it like blogging software. It’s entirely possible to make your own blog, using standard HTML, but it’s much easier to go and use a blogging platform like WordPress that is specifically designed for it. It will have lots of helpful features and a standard administration panel. Because it’s standard, it’s easy to get help and support if you need it.
Also what Draco and weka said.
I have been on forums before that have user-generated polls that appear in graphic formats with each new vote updating the graphic.
Maybe the IP website version is slightly more useable. But not as reolutionary as I was expecting.
It’s significantly better than any previous forum discussions:
1.) You can see how you’ve voted (Quite often I’ve gone onto a discussion in a forum and not remember how I’ve voted or why)
2.) You can easily see everyone else’s arguments for or against
3.) As arguments for/against are made the proposal can be changed becoming more representative
4.) You can change how you’ve voted if the discussion hasn’t closed
It’s dynamic enough that the final result should actually be a consensus.
https://www.loomio.org/help
Yes, the point is that it’s not just about discussion. The structures to enable decision making by groups is built in. You don’t have that on other forums. For people that don’t get it, have a look at some of the other groups using it and some of the trials that loomio did. They’re better examples of the point of loomio than the IPP one, which is a bit chaotic at the moment I think.
Part of why loomio was set up was to enable real life groups to make decisions without having to all be in the same room at the same time. I don’t think it was primarily just about being another online discussion forum of people who didn’t know each other in RL.
i agree on labour/super should they also loomio..
..and as harre noted..other parties should follow this new benchmark in democratic policy-making..
..they have now sent ‘the standard’..and i can’t see how the members of other parties will not demand similar policy input..from their leaders..turning policy from top-down to bottom-up can only enhance the democratic process..
..loomio rocks..!
..christie was his usual cliche-dripping/supercillious/sneering self..(dotcom string-pulling allegations spilling from his lips..)
..but harre handled him well..
..(and earlier:..smiling approvingly at pics of shane jones troughing in the pacific islands..as keys’ wingman..
..and commenting on his new sellout-reward job..
..christie said:..with nary a trace of cynicism/sarcasm:..
“..he’s the perfect man for the job..”
..christie..staying on-message since whenever..
..i’ve been told christie does lip-puckering exercises in the studio before appearances there by key..
..and that key has said (admiringly) that christie has lips like a suction-cup..
..and is the best arse-kisser in the business..
Love the way Laila is surrounded by laptops and screens. Parody coming soon?
I’d put money on it that weed won’t be legalised, and at best it’s 50/50 on decriminalising.
Decriminalising however throws up the argument that it’s a go soft on the gangs who own the pot market, which is probably likely not going to go down to well with mainstream mum and dad kiwis.
Decriminalisation is a bad idea & a half measure IMO
Its causes disrespect for the law
Eg “its still illegal, but were not going to do anything about it” just makes the law and its enforcers seem weak to me
Its legalization is inevitable, almost every other resource on the planet has been exploited by the capitalist system for profit, what makes you think drugs wont eventually follow ?
Opinion polls and how politicians react to them mainly, though for the record, I’m happy with it being controlled and in the shops.
Reply is in mod land 🙂
Decriminalising possession doesn’t necessarily mean decriminalising growing, selling, or distributing.
More to the point it’s an interesting stance given their partner Mana is of the opposite view
Trade Me passes under a lot of radars and it is full of tory plonkers posting every ten minutes or so gems like “rumours are swirling that Philida Bunkle, Sandra Lee and Matt Robson are due to join IMP”! Some of it is obviously beyond rational comment.
Yesterday though a poster put up the alleged latest Roy Morgan with National at 52.5%. http://www.trademe.co.nz/Community/MessageBoard/Messages.aspx?id=1434742&p=1&topic=7
Others asked for a link having not been able to find it on the Morgan site. So was this a leak? Quite likely but we shall see very shortly.
Chris Trotter on polls.
http://thedailyblog.co.nz/2014/06/04/keep-calm-and-carry-on-why-the-left-should-ignore-the-next-round-of-poll-results/
Chris trotter is basically saying that labour has blown both its feet off and wou ded everyone else on the left while doing it. That the labour party sees parties on the left as their enemy before national and ACT is beyond scarey…
“..That the labour party sees parties on the left as their enemy before national and ACT is beyond scarey…”
aye..!
..back in the 90’s @ uni doing politics..
..i argued that the rise of populism/calls for change from their left would eventually see labour embrace a grand coalition with the tories at some stage..
..and that they wd likely argue ‘stability’ as their meme to move on..
..i still stand by that argument..
..’cos the fact is that in any international ideological-spectrum visualisation..
..you can barely slide a playing card between tweedledum and tweedledee..
..with the end result for us being the neo-lib stasis we have laboured under for the last three decades..(pun intentional..)
umm no it is rational,. How old are you? “Enemies”? FFS
There are many in the Labour Party that have far more in common with their objectives than KDC, Lalalala, or R Norman. Why would they want that CF to succeed and then be thrown out of office in 2017 as it implodes.
By running dead they (the ABCs) can take over Labour and win in 2017, probably getting at least 2 terms.
thanks for your concern
The fact that you can see anyone in a country like New Zealand as an “enemy” is beyond scary.
Lucky you’re an australian then
Like Russell Norman
srylands lives in Austrailia. He has so little contact with NZ life that he doesn’t know the rate of GST or basic NZ geography.
but pretends he does by reading shit off wikipedia about Aotearoa
Labour seems to be letting the media dictate their responses again, and like clockwork they just get jumped on from another angle once they follow the path that has been laid out for them.
It’s like they never learn that in being reactive like that, they’re always one step behind the game.
+111
Labour seem to be trying too hard to please the RWNJs in the MSM while saying that they’re going to be left.
@ ant..
“..they’re always one step behind the game..”
..+ 1..
Dairy prices falling, 300 jobs on line at Stockton Mine – so much for the rockstar economy. It has officially passed out and choked on its own vomit.
oh come now, banks are all in profit, things are ok.
‘record’ profits..’record’-profits..too..!
..all of the looting-bastards are making ‘record-profits’..
..and let’s not forget that our $15bn billion annual deficit..is pretty much the same amount of foreign-profits sucked out of nz..each and every year..
..fix that..and you fix most things..
Yep. If we didn’t have that foreign ownership we’d be so much better off.
this is where my partial-nationalisation idea comes into play..
..the people take a 51% controlling share in those banks/supermarket duopoly etc..
..the existing shareholders have that 51% share value paid out by a mix of initial payment..followed by installments from future profits..
..nothing..aside from their ability to continue to profiteer into the future..is taken/’stolen’ from those current shareholders..
..and each near brings those partial-nationalised entities closer to freehold/people-control..
(..that takes care of half of that $15 billion..as 51% of those profits will now be returned to the people/customers..
..not sent to line the pockets of those foreign-owners..)
..and of course..having the peoples’-interests to the forefront will make it much easier to enact the raft food-regulations needed as part of the battle against the obesity epidemic that threatens to swamp out health-services/budgets..
..those bastards can no longer be allowed to just peddle sugar/salt/fat-laden crap disguised/marketed as ‘food’…
..the health-implications/outcomes from just allowing this state of the nation to continue..
..cannot be ignored..
moderation..?
Looks very similar to what Zanu-PF proposed in Zimbabwe recently. What do you think the results of that was?
If we didn’t have that foreign ownership we would be Zimbabwe.
Wow, is that all you’ve got?
Of course we wouldn’t. We’d be significantly better off than we are now as we’d be able to afford a hell of a lot more.
I’ve asked you to provide a reference for that claim but you haven’t done so. Where did you get the figures on repatriation of profits from?
same offer as I made a while ago – I’ll do your research for you if you make a plausible case that you actually give a shit…
I give a shit about lots of things McFlock. I give a shit about stopping damaging leftist economic policies as proposed by Mr Ure ever being implemented here in NZ.
It’s the right-wing policies that are damaging. Unfortunately, our left-wing parties still follow the same delusional BS.
We have a socialist Government in office in New Zealand. What right wing policies?
What’s this “we” business, you’re a frickin foreigner Shitlands who has never even been here.
As for “socialist governments” well of course all government is socialist to you, but you are an extremist after all.
The selling of our assets, the damping down of the RMA so that more damage can be done to the environment, the chasing of profit over everything else. The list goes on.
If that were true you’d actually contribute something useful. Rather than just wanking and demanding people spoonfeed you facts.
http://canterbury.cyberplace.co.nz/community/CAFCA/keyfacts.html
All in record profit, thank you very much.
Seriously you say that like it is a bad thing. You would like us to have unprofitable banks?
When you mean “us” you’re referring to the Australian shareholding owners of those banks, right? The ones who are extracting billions in profits from NZ households and SMEs and then shipping it back home to support their own lifestyles?
Yes. Well, one bank run at cost by the government for the good of the country anyway. These private banks are too damaging to our economy.
snap boys and i stand very corrected
“banks are all in profit, things are ok.”
Yep, I reminded them of their record profits when I refixed my mortgage rate last week and said as well as not being able to afford an interest rate increase I was not prepared to line their pockets any more than I had to (all said in the most tasteful and polite possible way of course)
Got the rate reduced down from their original offer.
Hey good work, I remember you saying that you were going to push hard 🙂
Cheers CV, I reckon everyone needs to go hard out with negotiations when the time comes to refix your rate. It doesn’t hurt to remind them they have profited at a time when so many are downwardly mobile and livelihoods are more insecure than previously.
The folks you’re dealing with at the call centre aren’t on great wages themselves. The person I spoke with was empathetic with our situation and didn’t deny the record profits I mentioned. Good to remember that the call centre person isn’t the director making massive bonuses and that they need to be spoken to respectfully if you want a smooth ride for your negotiation.
Yes they are just wage serfs as well.
Good analogy amirite very apt. +1
Talking about Banks, the decision on his electoral donations case is due out today – No7 Court, Auckland High Court at 2.15pm.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/10120200/D-day-for-Banks-in-donation-case
thanks veuto.
My concern remains around the legal issue of what banks “knew” when he signed the forms without reading them.
I find it staggering that friends testified about how honest banks is, yet he signed somthing without reading it.. Signed it as true and correct without reading it.
The legal issues covered by the decision whichever way it goes are going to be very interesting.
Don’t have time to find the relevant legislative provisions, but my understanding is that the case will probably succeed or fail on the word “knowingly” signed in the relevant legislative provision.
In other words, the relevant provision includes the word “knowingly” – and thus differs from the normal situation where ignorance is no excuse – eg in respect of contracts, general law etc.
Whichever way it goes, that word needs to be removed.
pretty sure by signing he was stating it was true and correct, but it seems in banks world that is irrelevant, doesnt mak him dishonest tho
I’m wondering if a former New Zealand cricket player has made an offer David Cunliffe can’t refuse, to throw the election, after seeing him approach National about working together to get rid of coat-tailing before the election.
Or perhaps seventy-one percent in favour of scrapping it was the trigger. It’s easy to stick to a popular principle.
ONB@ 6.1 100+
I disagree that it would “throw the election”. Implementing the RC’s recommendations would drop the threshold to 4% and give the IMP a pretty good underdog status to go with all that money.
4% is far far too high a threshold and is designed as a barrier to waste minor party votes. Why should a minor party not get into Parliament when it has enough votes from the electorate for an effective 3 or 4 MP size caucus.
Yeah. Halve the current threshold. From 5% to 2.5%.
Also ensure there will be a review after 10 years.
@ kiwiri..+ 1..
You do realise that had this happened from the start, that you would have had the likes of Christian Heritage Party in parliament along with its leader Graham Capill. From memory, the Christian Coalition got over 4% in one of the early MMP elections
Be careful what you wish for…..
I see no reason why peoples choice of representative should be excluded from parliament just because you don’t like them.
If they received 100,000 votes then they probably deserve to be represented in Parliament speaking on behalf of the people who voted for them.
Act gave us garrett… Criminal stealer of dead baby name, so dont assume we havent already seen what xan happen
this one is fun..( dare you not ‘to groove’..!..)
“..The Chic Organization – 10 of the best..” (music/videos..)
.From their own early disco anthems –
through to their masterly productions for others –
Nile Rodgers and Bernard Edwards scaled pop’s heights..”
(cont..)
http://www.theguardian.com/music/musicblog/2014/jun/04/the-chic-organization-10-of-the-best
….crimes against children…crimes against women…crimes against humanity….as Christopher Hitchens said: “Where ever you find Catholicism you find fascism ”
…what does this Irish Catholic Church history of child abuse , murder and abuse of women say for the mental health of this society and religion…time to do some serious self examination!
796 Irish orphans buried in mass grave near Catholic orphanage: historian
Orphanage’s septic tank was converted to serve as body disposal site
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/796-irish-orphans-buried-in-mass-grave-near-catholic-orphanage-historian-1.2663895
…..and the Catholic Church has the gall to oppose women the right to contraception and abortion!
…..and it has protected their male Priest perpetrators of sex crimes against children and women!
Just remember that Hitchens was a big supporter of the war against Saddam Hussein which eventuated in hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians dead and ongoing weekly sectarian violence.
very few people are wrong about everything..
..and while individual catholics may be fine/sincere in their beliefs people..
..the arguments can be made the organisation is fascist in nature..
..in many different ways..from the small to the large..
..and it has a long history of being ‘relaxed’ about cozying up to/with fascist-regimes..
..ones torturing/killing their own citizens..
..and ‘torturings/killings’ those cozying up church-leaders/rome could not have not known about..
..(and as an aside..you do have this pattern in this forum of not debating ideas..but attacking messengers..eh..?..)
..and yes..in many ways/ideas hitchens was a rightwing-jerk..
..but not in/with this one..
..all he is doing is pulling together the strings of historical-record..after all..
yes I never agreed with Hitchens on that one….i was absolutely appalled by the war declared on Iraq!( scapegoating for 9/11 and false accusations of weapons of mass destruction)…i think Hitchens was sidelined in his thinking or blinded by his dislike of fundamentalist Islam and its intolerance of Gays
nevertheless Hitchens was a brilliant man and I do agree with him on that quote about Catholicism….after all there is evidence that Hitler was a Catholic to the end (check wiki)…many of his views on women, minorities , gays, the ‘immoral’ , Communists, Gypsies and the Jews were Catholic Institution views, as the feminist Gloria Steinem and numerous biographers and historians have pointed out (not his final solutions I hasten to add)…and his adviser to the end was a Catholic Priest ( incidentally there is also the suggestion that Hitler had at least one Jewish ancestor…a grandparent?)
Asbestos and supply chain
Interesting listening to RNZ how only just now they are talking of properly recording in the LIM report if houses contain asbestos.
Gee, thank god we have ‘balanced professionals’ that come in years after the fact.
I feel so safe. Funny we are seeing the ‘lets let legislation catch up’ in the fracking industry as well.
Certain big companie,s in theory, should have some form of relationships with key supply chain companies. Now what if, in this ‘balanced & professional’ environment no one was actually recording what products came into the country containing asbestos that are used in building (there may or may not be building products). Also, is there any data that accompanies the products that details the proper handling processes?
Now consider this (I cannot comment on the accuracy of this infromation). The problem appears to me, is that we just don’t know what possible building materials etc are being imported into NZ.
How hard can it be to track stock, or for that matter compile a photographic library of past and new asbestos containing building materials…….. seriously…. I am waiting for you ” Professional & Balanced” experts to tell me this.
Tick Tock Tick Tock
The following exterts are taken from:
http://www.fibreaware.org.nz/asbestosinnewzealand.htm
Deadly building materials still coming into NZ
report NZPA | Tuesday July 1 2008:
Building products with asbestos in them
are putting builders at deadly risk,
a new report commissioned by the
Department of Labour says.
The report, obtained by NZPA under the
Official Information Act,
says many builders
would not know asbestos if they saw it.
And while local manufacturing of those products
ceased in the late 1980s,
builders might also be at risk of
imported goods from countries
where there is no such ban.
New Zealand has a ban on importing
raw asbestos but no ban
on importing asbestos in goods
as long as they are labelled,
and no testing for them at ports.
Products containing asbestos
are still allowed to come into New Zealand
with absolutely no HSNO approval
from ERMA being required.
There is no comprehensive list of
the products that contain asbestos
that may currently be imported into
New Zealand
I believe most New Zealanders
who know how dangerous
asbestos is,
also believe that when the
import of raw asbestos was banned in NZ
it really meant any asbestos coming into NZ.
and did not realise that raw products meant just that.
(Who was to know that
somewhere down the line
some one with no brain whatsoever
was going to come along and say
“No problem.
It’s quite safe,
No need to worry
I’ll be long dead
before they find
out I was wrong”
IDIOTS!IDIOTS!
THAT’S WHAT WE ARE
AND THE SAD THING ABOUT IT,
IS WE JUST NEVER LEARN.
http://ibasecretariat.org/lka-new-zealand-failing-asbestos-policy.php
Postscript
Since the text for this article was finalized, an earthquake measuring 6.3 on the Richter Scale struck the New Zealand town of Christchurch. 14 Speaking within hours of the disaster, the country’s Prime Minister John Key said that “We may be witnessing New Zealand’s darkest day…” In the midst of strong aftershocks, emergency rescue efforts are being made to locate survivors.
Unfortunately, the ubiquity of asbestos in the country’s infrastructure adds another layer of danger to the already perilous conditions. As has been seen in the aftermath of Cyclone Yasi, the presence of asbestos-contaminated rubble in Queensland necessitated the use of specialist personnel and equipment to minimize the hazards to clean-up crews. Recalling the infamous cyclone which wiped out the Northern Territory town of Darwin in 1974, Dr. Gregory Deleuil, medical advisor to the Asbestos Diseases Society of Australia, said that, as a resident of Darwin, he had first-hand experience of the destruction. Tracy reduced his home town to “a city-sized asbestos-contaminated demolition site.” As a medical practitioner, with a specialism in asbestos-related diseases, Dr. Deleuil has diagnosed two of the emergency responders involved in the Tracy clean-up with asbestosis.15
Perhaps, the tragedy which has now occurred in New Zealand will be the incentive needed for the government to take effective action on asbestos; the first step would be a comprehensive ban on the import of all asbestos-containing products. Once this has been done, a national asbestos strategy could be implemented.
February 22, 2011
Lolz, in a comment, months ago now i commented on how ‘we’ had forced a landlord to take a rental property off the market,
Asbestos was the tool, plenty of it in old Wellington homes and the real estate company got the message that it would have to, now that Asbestos was confirmed in the building, advertise this to prospective buyers, worked a treat as well…
And that tells you why asbestos use in houses isn’t recorded.
The Impossibility of Growth
And that is what makes politicians and most economists delusional. They keep telling us that we need more growth despite the fact that more will destroy us.
And the sociopathic amongst them know what is coming, but think that if they can corner all the world’s resources for themselves, they will somehow get through OK. The gated community mindset writ large.
50 YEARS SERVING EUROPEAN COOPERATION AND INNOVATION
A short video about the ESA. The interesting bit is that for every Euro invested in the space program it returns 20.
Now say that NZ doesn’t need a space program.
We don’t need a space programme.
😛
But we actually do – for all the reasons stated in the video about how good the ESA was for Europe.
Bloody hell Draco, that’s like saying look how good building cars was for Japan and South Korea in the 60’s – 90’s, lets go building cars in Kiwiland!
I know you love the high-tech promise of the future but in an energy depleting and economically declining world – cars and spacecraft are the last things we need to double down on.
The only real problems we’re going to have in the future about energy will be cars, planes and fast ships and the reason for that will be lack of liquid fuels. Everything else? Not a problem as we don’t need to burn anything to provide them with the energy needed.
Oh god mate seriously?
Look up the Shell refinery fire in the Netherlands which was just in the news. Look up what that refinery made for Europe and the world out of petroleum products, and with what kind of manufacturing capacity.
And then tell me that cars, planes and ships without fuel is the one and only main problem here.
Our entire global and industrial infrastructure is predicated on fossil fuels, full stop.
But that’s not a question of energy but a question of resources and, sure, hydrocarbons and their refined products are going to be in short supply but there will be substitutes for them. Can’t get the plastic for your cellphone? Not a problem, we’ll just use ceramics instead. Can’t get the synthetic fibres for that nice cloak? Just use wool (which I believe is actually better anyway).
Then there’s the concept of recycling. This also needs to be a major policy and it needs to be that everything gets recycled. We have no choice on that.
You’re actually wrong there. It’s transport that predicated on fossil fuels and without that transport there’s no global economy – just local ones.
And we don’t need fossil fuels to get into space.
Some materials are somewhat fungible, in theory. But you make it sound far too easy. It comes back to the manufacturing triad of cost, quality and time. There will be major compromises in product performance and availability.
And how are you going to feed all the sheep and grow all the cotton needed to replace the millions of tonnes of polyesters used in clothing today?
Simply put – people are just going to have to make do, and most of the time, to make do without.
I’m happy to drill down into that if you are. As IMO you can’t build and operate a 10 person aeroplane across the Atlantic without fossil fuels, let alone get something into space.
Hydrogen/Oxygen extracted from water using electricity produced using renewable generation.
Aluminium extracted from the Earth using electrical tools and then smelted using electricity produced using renewable generation.
Computers made the same way.
Seals and other plastics to be produced from biological sources such as hemp.
Heat shields are ceramic anyway.
Think that pretty much covers everything.
Have a cool bike
You’re an optimist, I’ll give you that.
No one is going to spend the money to rework any of the above to what you say. Bauxite quarries don’t run on electricity. Most modern space launch vehicles don’t run on hydrogen. The performance, reliability and knowledge of mechanical parts made of organic materials is mediocre.
No one will be able to afford said computers. From refining silicon to obtaining rare earth metals to packaging ICs…it could theoretically all be done using renewable electricity but it won’t be.
Continuous Miners “Innovations such as…AC traction motors…”
Yeah, mines already run on electricity.
We’ve had this debate before although it was about trains then and it comes down to one little fact – electric motors are far more powerful and reliable than diesel engines. And have the advantage of requiring less ventilation as they don’t pump the mine full of exhaust gases.
That fails to prove that they can’t – especially considering that they have done before.
Then we’d better get onto the R&D.
Renewable electricity is, as a matter of fact, cheaper than the fossil fueled stuff due to the fact that it’s not using up a finite resource for which we have more important things to do. Hell, that’s why Tiwai Point smelter was built where it is – the massive availability of cheap hydro power.
My optimism is based upon what we can do whereas you’re pessimism is based upon the delusion that it all must fall down because JMG said so.
But JMG is right, and you’re wrong. The trajectory of the last decade (and of the end of every empire in history) clearly demonstrates that.
You keep pointing out the things which could be done hypothetically, but of course they won’t be.
For some reason you think that a modern economy will exist into the non-fossil fuel future, one which can provide us with a comparable or higher standard of living than today.
Even though you know for a fact that for most people in most nations life has been getting worse not better, for a very long time now.
Get over the bargaining stage mate you still have some way to go.
BTW thanks for the link to the cool bike
They have a nice innovative business model too
Ahem…I’m betting their tyres are made from crude oil with steel reinforcing though…but not a bad effort.
There’s one major difference between now and every other major civilisation collapse – most people are well educated rather being ignorant. I’m quite aware that we can’t go on the way we are.
We have to get rid of the rich (and I don’t mean just getting them out of power) so that we can actually change society. If we don’t then society will collapse as it always has.
But if we get rid of the rich then that education that everyone has can be used to change our society so that it’s sustainable while maintaining a similar living standard to what we have now but with a lot less than 40 hours per week of work.
Probably but they don’t have to be. We can make plastics out of organic compounds or a combination organic and inorganic compounds. Original tyres used canvas for strengthening but the one thing we won’t be running out of is steel anyway.
Yeah but education has never been a quality in the way you posit it in your statement. In fact some of the worst fuckassery of the last 20-30 years has been caused by the most qualified, best educated out of the most prestigious schools while the rest of the “educated” population sat back and believed the rational sounding intellectual nonsense and let it all happen – so were complicit with it to some degree or other.
I presume you are younger than me Draco – I am a child of the 70’s to mid 80’s – but with any luck we will both get to see how this ride turns out.
(the person who i wd like to be the next president of america..and piketty..
..discuss how to take care of ‘inequality’..)
“..Thomas Piketty and Elizabeth Warren Discuss Why the Rich Get Richer – and the Rest Get Shafted..” (video..)
“..Piketty and Warren agree:
we have the tools to stop rising inequality..”
(cont..)
http://www.alternet.org/economy/thomas-piketty-and-elizabeth-warren-discuss-why-rich-get-richer-and-rest-get-shafted
Yesterday David Cunliffe said that if elected he will take urgent action to end the danger that ‘coat tailing’ poses to NZ’s democratic process; on the same day, though, his foreign affairs spokesperson was talking blithely about Tonga’s ‘transition to democracy’, and ignoring the enormous distortion in that country’s electoral system that in 2010 allowed a handful of nobles to ignore the will of 70% of the people and form a government. With elections approaching in Tonga as well as NZ, Labour needs to add its voice to those of Tongan democrats, and help prevent a new violent crisis in the Friendly Islands: http://readingthemaps.blogspot.co.nz/2014/06/labour-and-democracy-tale-of-two.html
Mr Mallard’s asked what looked like a random question to Ms Parata about whether or not she struck a staffer. This was at a Select Committee which is in the House. Her denial is in the “House” and qualifies for the “Misleading the House” if the answer was found to be wrong. So perhaps not so random at all.
There is a personal grievance being considered.
Watch this space.
T. Mallard is a sleazy little man
No one forced Hekia to mislead the House, Puckish.
But I would hope Ducky would have a bit more than a “Romour from a reliable source” before starting down the track he has. If he can’t come up with anything concrete it just plays into the “Left use nasty politics” MeMe that is bandied around.
Dunno. All Mr Mallard did was ask a question though heavily loaded. If nothing comes of it the issue is gone by lunchtime. If National makes a fuss it will keep the possibility alive. If there is substance then look out.
(Actually weren’t there rumours about a very high turnover of staff in the Parata office a few years back? Wonder why?)
Yet the MSM already has Parata saying how offended she is. This puts the onus on Mallard to prove what he has said. This close to the election it just becomes another thing you will hear “The left are nasty and make up stuff”.
agree. Mallard seems to have stepped tnis shit up cos its election year. He tried this in 2011
Do you have any sort of proof that she has mislead the house?
which is exactly trevs problem here – if you dont have some back up, keep your trap shut to the media untill you do. The election isnt tomorrow
If he does have evidence and hes playing a game longer than one news story he better put up fast otherwise the predictable will happen
yeah – didn’t shearer do something similar with the GCSB presentation? Going off half-cocked before the ducks are in a row…
Sigh
Mallard is the one with the proof, if he can get the person to come forward. But the history is certainly suggestive:
Lots of room in there for physical bullying to have occurred. Maybe someone else wants a $1000/ day payout?
P. Rogue is a sleazy little man.
The Honourable Trevor Mallard, MP for Hutt South; for all his sleaziness, is a much bigger fish than you are.
Maybe I am but whether or not I am doesn’t change that T. Mallard is a sleazy, little man
I really, really hope he’s got his ducks in a row for this one.
john minto and bob jones are in a state of open warfare..
http://thedailyblog.co.nz/2014/06/05/your-days-of-well-paid-indolence-are-coming-to-an-end-bob/
Labour’s imagined Auckland housing crisis vote winner has hit a major snag.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11268109
A 14% drop in house sales and no rise in rents means that there is no crisis.
Oh Dear. immigration crisis FAIL
Housing Crisis FAIL
Manufacturing crisis FAIL
Christchurch crisis FAIL
The Cunliffe FAIL
Immigration Crisis Fail = Concocted media beat up. No new policy was ever proposed just a statement that Labour would use existing tools to try and achieve a more stable net migration rate.
Housing Crises Fail = I’m not sure how a drop in house sales = no housing crisis. Perhaps that is reflective of the fact that interest rates have started to go up and the high deposits required. I know this would make you happy because it means that really only rich landlords can now afford to buy hoses in Auckland and anyone who would want to get into the market is stuffed unless they are on a very high income.
Manufacturing CRISIS Fail = I am pretty sure or economy is still largely reliant on Primary Exports and not value added products. After all it was only Manufacturers who were claiming that the sector was in Crisis and what the hell would they know that you don’t?
Christchurch Crisis Fail = Bit early to be claiming victory on this one mate. Still a lot of red zone land owners, Flooded residents and others who would argue that Vodafone moving in isn’t the end of their problems.
The Cunliff fail = Your opinion and your welcome to it.
Fisiani yet again proves his inability to apply logic to anything due to his ideology.
BTW, what you’re actually describing there is the possible bursting of the housing bubble in Auckland that’s been going on for close to a decade.
Crammed into bad tuxedo’s and shoddy evening dresses while struggling to dine gracefully for the panning cameras – the overweight NZ glitterati and their hangers on sit ringside as the snot and gore fly from the orifices’ of the third rate palooka’s plodding lazily away from their huffing quarry. That’s all before the actually boxing begins. Spare a thought for the underpaid cleaners that have to deal to the ablusions block and car parks after that lot drain the bar. New Zealand doesn’t have it when it comes to our version of the Oscar’s or anything, really.
I don’t know if this will get its own thread but:
http://www.roymorgan.com/findings/5620-new-zealand-roy-morgan-voting-intention-201406050202
“National (52.5%) surges to election winning lead while Labour/ Greens (38%) slump to lowest since last New Zealand Election as Greens propose a Carbon Tax to replace the Emissions Trading Scheme”
Thats Labour on 29% and the Greens on 9% in case anyones interested
lol
Compare the latest nat result in the “long term NZ party voting intention” chart in that poll.
Somewhere around the rough median the nats had throughout 2011.
And they could only sell assets with the assistance of an officially corrupt mp to whom they gifted an electorate.
I won’t be slitting my wrists just yet.
Absolutely I totally agree, everything is going fine and theres no need to change anything 🙂
keep that hubris.
Field defiant, Clark exposed as weakTuesday, 13 February 2007, 7:59 pm
Press Release: New Zealand National Party
Field defiant, Clark exposed as weak
Helen Clark’s leadership has been exposed as weak over Taito Phillip Field, says National Party Leader John Key.
“Helen Clark’s move tonight to start the process to expel him from the Labour Party only happened after Mr Field told the media today he was jumping ship.
“This is a Prime Minister who was prepared to cynically cling to power by continuing to exercise Mr Field’s vote, no matter what. She would have used any excuse to not act against him to maintain her slim one-vote majority.
“Mr Field, by talking to the media on Helen Clark’s big day, forced her hand.
“This is not a Prime Minister in control, but a Prime Minister in damage control.
“Helen Clark has shown no leadership. She concocted an expensive, toothless inquiry that she knew would never get to the bottom of the allegations against Mr Field.
“Then she sat on her hands when Mr Field said he would decline to co-operate with the police inquiry.
“Today, Mr Field has forced her hand by open defiance in the media.
“With a motion of no confidence in the Labour Government being voted on this Thursday, Helen Clark should immediately say whether Labour will continue to exercise Mr Field’s vote.”
GCHQ spying base in Oman
Part of the Echelon system which NZ is part of and much much more, directly tapping into 9 major fibre optic cables which carry data throughout the middle east.
Note how the west is prepared to support and work with undemocratic dictators, as long as they are “our” undemocratic dictators.
Of course, this colonial behaviour while obscured by mainstream news sources in the west has been directly known and witnessed by the Middle East street for many decades.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-06-04/how-west-spies-middle-east-location-gchqs-top-secret-internet-spy-base-revealed
http://www.roymorgan.com/findings/5620-new-zealand-roy-morgan-voting-intention-201406050202
Latest poll that some above were wondering about.
Lots to chew over in this new breakdown of New Zealand’s economic performance since 2007 both by sector and by region:
http://www.mbie.govt.nz/what-we-do/business-growth-agenda/regions
Just a random aside about people I usually ignore for the reason that they are unpleasant and tell lies.
SSLands. Just going by the types of comments he makes, do you think he’s the kind of anti social person that believes that people in positions of service are beneath him on the social strata?
Would he talk on his phone while ordering a coffee? Would he not acknowledge the staff who brings him his coffee, not even look at them and not say thank you?
I observe this kind of behaviour on my rare outings for a coffee and wonder why these people behave the way they do. Were they not taught basic manners as a child? Are they self absorbed? Are they selfish? Or do they think that those that serve them don’t deserve their acknowledgement? Then I wonder if those people are the same RWNJ bastards that you come across on line.
RWNJ’s can still have good manners, I know some that do, but you get those that just appear to have traces of sociopathic tendencies, such as the aforementioned.
Latest rory morgan poll
National 52.5% (+7),
Labour 29.5 (-1.5)
Greens 9% (-4.5)
NZF 4.5 (-1.5)
Maori 1.5
Conservative 1
Act 1%
United 0%
Other .5%
Mana/Int 1%
Personally I think they have the greens too low, and NZ first far too high.
I hope dotcom is happy that 4 million dollars buys him 1% and only one MP.
Act is of course gone, along with the conservative, where are the Maori party in this poll
KS
Thanks for the shift of venue.
Yes that is a colossal swing towards National, but I believe it to be a rogue poll: At no point on the listed Roy Mogan results (fortnightly from Jan 2012 to present), have National polled that high nor the Greens that low. Also it doesn’t match other data I’ve seen – one of the perils of using a (nominal) 1000 person sample to extrapolate election day results from.
http://www.roymorgan.com/morganpoll/new-zealand/voting-intention-summary
The next one will be out around the 22nd. This is an emphatic; “must try harder” for the left bloc though!
Agree this poll does seem out of sync, with the Greens being a tad low, nzfirst far too high, labour too low, National a tad too high.
As this is the lowest polling NZFirst have had in 5 consecutive polls, I don’t think it can be called “too high”.
Ouch!
Interesting, though, it leads to the TV3 poll looking pretty accurate – very similar to that one.
This poll doesn’t really include the whole Internet Leadership announcement. Roy Morgan says they collected the data between 19 May -June 1st. The leadership announcement occurred on the 29th.
This poll is still reflecting the response to National’s rather left-wing flavored budget.
Labour’s policy creators should pat themselves on the back and take some of the credit for National’s bump in support – considering the inspiration for National’s budget appeared to come directly from Labour policies – Labour should be pleased that NZers respond so well to their policies; albeit watered down versions. Just next time I hope NZers give credit to whom it is due – not copycats with no ideas of their own.
I also agree that Greens are likely recorded too low, however also believe they consistently tend to get NZ First too low too and believe the same is the case here. (Greens and NZ First likely to have higher supported than indicated here).
Labour should go really very hard on driving the retirement age up. That should do more wonders. In addition, National should drop a few bombs on that proposal sometime, erm let’s say, 20 days before polling date. That should keep Labour respectably low and out of government.
🙄
Surely the answer to this low polling and National’s high polling is to try and imitate National more closely? I mean, it’s working so far, right?
Whilst you are having a bit of a laugh, please do remember that it was National imitating Labour that got National such stunning results – not the other way around.
(Just thought I had better make that clear, in case any of those Labour MPs who have currently gotten into cammo gear, so to speak, and gone AWOL shooting friendly fire might be reading and missing the sarcasm contained in your comments, get even more fueled on the righteousness of their ’cause’….whatever it might be…your guess is as good as mine….I mean…I daresay it makes sense to them in their little minds anyway….)
Thanks BL.
Remember the recent days of Labour polling in the mid to late 30% range when Cunliffe was passionately talking about a true Red Labour and how Labour wasn’t just going to be a National taking a limb off but with better anaesthetic?
Seems so long ago now.
These days, it seems that Labour is more about helping National take the leg off without anesthetic:
They just don’t seem to get that trying this this close to the election is just coming across as pure politicking, poor sportsmanship, and that they’re doing it solely to keep IMP out. Which raises the question in voters minds: Why are Labour so afraid of a left wing party?
Because it’s intimately connected with a man who’s personal background is so volatile it might explode and tarnish an entire government?
It’s not a case of being afraid of a left-wing party (though Labour’s attitude to the Greens leave much to be desire), it’s more a case of being afraid of a convicted criminal, John Banks donating, rape joke making billionaire.
I don’t blame them for being scared.
Yep.
How many non-voters is Labour going to turn out with raising the retirement age? NONE.
How many non-voters is Labour going to turn out by cutting out coat tailing? NONE.
How many non-voters is Labour going to turn out by bashing IMP? Probably quite a few…NONE for Labour though.
It’s classic world view from the middle of the Thorndon Bubble stuff.
This is why Labour rarely sounds like it is talking to NZers out here, in the rest of the country. They’re too busy talking about inane stuff that only Thorndon bubble head types care about.
Meanwhile, the rest of the country is like, wtf is up with the Labour Party.
Labour were in such a cluster fuck though, it was pretty easy.
The numbers in bold are the Roy Morgan numbers from the second half of Sept 2011, with the differential in brackets the difference between the 2011 result and the latest Roy Morgan.
Bottom line, National are still royally fucked. In Sept 2011 the differential between Labour and National was a full eight points bigger and National still only scraped in. Plus the Greens and NZF are polling higher now than then.
Basically Labour can still win this and win it strongly, if it gets its shit sorted ASAP and presents voters with initiatives which unashamedly addresses the median New Zealanders’ concerns, not BS Thorndon bubble crap.
I also think they have the Greens too low but Labour seems to high but Winstonfirst seems about right
But not to worry as soon as people discover the real Cunliffe the polls will change 🙂
A sad but predictable poll. We have a mainstream media that continues to be mesmerised by JK and is rabidly anti-left. At the same time we have an ill-disciplined Labour Party focused on winning the centre by offering up a kinder-gentler moneterism (see Parker’s May announcement) while extemporising on immigration policy. None of this gives Labour a distinctive ‘brand’ with working people thereby reinforcing the widespread belief that voting is a waste of time. Meanwhile, Labour is not going to achieve any traction in the centre while National can steal their policies and scare middle class voters by painting the greens as dangerous, especially when Labour helps in the process by holding their only ally at arms length.
Some months ago Labour soared to 37% in the polls. That was when they presented themselves as a genuine left alternative. Sadly it now seems all that is forgotten as the careerists in caucus look to win in 2017. Those of us who can’t afford to wait until then have to tell them to join us or move on.
A little short documentary I just finished watching on youtube, it’s a good exploration of the consequences bad credit, pay cheque loans from an American perspective. Its mind bogglingly funded by American Express..
http://youtu.be/YAxL4TB6pmQ
I think this poll shows that colmar brunton and Reid research polls, and the ipsos poll (Fairfax media) were all showing a similar result and trend, Nats up, Labs down.
We can’t keep saying that polls are rogue when they don’t suit us.
We can’t praise up roy morgan when it shows a shift the way we want and that it’s a “rogue” when it goes against what we want.
Trends are important, and currently the trend in all polls is showing Nats gaining (not that they will actually get 50%) and Labs dropping to, or below 30%.
i think the latest from Roy likes to show that ”taking the piss” is something that the Morgan organization quietly prides itself in,
If what is supposedly such a robust polling organization cannot even keep up with a small thing like the alliance between Internet and Mana Parties treating them both as separate entities in this poll then like the New Zealand based polls any belief put in such results need be accompanied with a liberal sprinkling of salt…
Polling was conducted largely, but not solely, before the merger. They couldn’t have Internet MANA because some people would have said MANA and others the Internet Party.
Simple as that.
Anyone hear Key on National Radio news at midday – interview re the consequences if Banks decision was unfavourable.
He was saying basically that it will not affect confidence and supply. He then used an interesting term “…Parliament lifts in a few weeks anyway.” I can see the cranes being moved in already.
When his Mrs is baking and he passes through the kitchen he probably advises her not to remove the cake until it has lifted.
How immigration affects the UK economy
And that, of course, is the effect we see when unskilled labour is brought in to NZ and we, just the same as the UK, become worse off because of it.
Unskilled labour is brought in because there is a shortage of unskilled labour, in the places they are needed.
If you are running an orchard who would you rather employ? A keen as gang from Samoa and some keen as Swedish backpackers, or some surly unskilled dope heads sent along by WINZ? It is as simple as that. These people have businesses to run.
Travel all through the South Island and you will see thousands of overseas travellers employed in cafes, marinas, and spas. Are the unemployed in South Auckland going to travel to Franz Josef to work in the tourism industry? No. Fucking. Chance.
So unless you want to see the country stop, either we will need to keep up immigration or you son will need to get your mates to start advocating policies to change society and put a rocket under the feckless and breeders. Until that happens get used to saying hi to the cute German girl when you check in for your spa session.
Don’t really care who you’d rather employ because it’s not about what’s good for you but about what’s good for society.
Wrong question. The question is actually Can they afford to travel to Franz Joseph Glacier for a minimum wage job? No. Fucking. Chance.
And the ignorance and bigotry comes out.
hes just copying and pasting from last month… in between the coalition for poverty has issued a report about the impact on kids of their parents constantly moving to follow seasonal work.
“Don’t really care who you’d rather employ because it’s not about what’s good for you but about what’s good for society.”
Let me know when you enter the real world
“Wrong question. The question is actually Can they afford to travel to Franz Joseph Glacier for a minimum wage job? No. Fucking. Chance.”
It’s a seasonal job. So it makes no sense for them to move. There isn’t even an argument here.
Nah mate
We choose the kind of society we wish to create
Time to take that power of creativity back from the 1%
OK so the unemployed people in Christchurch can’t travel to Blenheim either?
Fuck I went to Ahipara – drowning in unemployed Maori. Stayed at the local campground where you could SEE the unemployed across the road. Who staffs the front office of the Campground, in the heart of darkest Northland? Yep, Germans.
are you sure you didn’t just see Maori across the road?
Darkest Northland SSLands,???, the real question SSLands is not one of who you seen across the road as you communed with the Germans in the campgrounds,
You as a raving capitalist wing-nut know that the employment equation is governed by ”willing buyer, willing seller”,
Instead of pointing your scum encrusted finger at the locals for being unemployed you should have berated the owners of the camp-ground for not having hired any of the locals…
and BTW I am not talking about seasonal jobs in Westland – these are year round jobs. You are suggesting that no unemployed in the South Island can afford a bus ticket to Westland to take up jobs currently filled by thousands of temporary immigrants? Seriously, it is a fucking eye opener seeing the scale of unskilled foreigners working in these areas. Something has gone seriously wrong. But you can’t blame the employers. They are happy as can be.
Yes, we actually can and should be. We should also blame the government that allowed tourists to work.
Shitlands isn’t a NZer and he’s not even in NZ. It’s like he does restaurant reviews for places he’s never eaten at, while sitting in a KFC somewhere far away.
I’m in the real world. Greed and selfishness cause the decline of civilisation while cooperation builds it’s strength. This has been proven over 5000 years of recorded history.
You’re not following the conversation are you?
849, guess what that’s the number of.
lies told by the national government
Well, obviously it’s not the answer to Life, the Universe and Everything.
It’s the number of people asked by Roy Morgan who they would vote for.
People polled in the latest Roy Morgan?
🙂
vote howard the duck for president.
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Calling the Roy Morgan a rogue poll is cognitive dissonance. Will it still be a rogue when next poll shows National at 54% and the next shows 56%. Remember 64.5% agree that the country is heading in the right direction. Whacky carbon tax, rich prick tax, capital gains tax on every business , farm and bach, raising the pension age and banning coal oil and gas are hardly policies to reach 50%.
“when” the next polls shows…?
No. If you genuinely know what they’ll be, it isn’t “rogue”, it’s fraudulent.
But if the next result and the one after are in the region of 45%, then yeah, this one’s rogue.
Yes, it’s time to go more Left, it’s time to stop being National-Lite.
The reason no one votes for National-lite is that given the choice between a watered down substitute and the real thing of course people will go blue.
What we need is a real red, blood red, true red Labour ready to fulfill its historical mission at last.
Yes good idea.
Going more Left and getting out the yoof vote and the missing million will win the election.
This quote no doubt will have been written up before here. But it still stays top of the list of concerns. From Chris Trotter Bowalley Road –
http://bowalleyroad.blogspot.co.nz/
Hmm .. just a little edit to make it more accurate:
“Bluntly speaking, the caucus is in a state of serious, collective denial.”
I know it’s easy to make excuses for people but here in Canterbury there is huge job opportunity
When I here excuses that people can’t move to where the jobs are for some bullshit reason I just laugh
EVERYBODY in nz is descended from immigrants.
Maori sailed across the pacific to find a new life
Mine came from England/Norway/Scotland/Germany and you are telling me that some lazy arse in Auckland who is unemployed can’t move to Canterbury or south land where the jobs are because it’s to hard
The naigpuhi who in their whaka attacked Maori all round the north island in the 1820s would look at there descendents with disgust
Too lazy to travel too better their life’s
It costs thousands to move a family and their belongings from Auckland to Christchurch, Graham. Not everyone has access to that money, or wants to leave behind their friends and family.
If you weren’t such a dick you’d realise that but you’re too busy yapping on about yourself and your relatives great holiday.
Nope. I’m saying that they can’t afford it. Can’t afford to live on the unemployment benefit certainly can’t afford the move to Te Wai Pounamu.
Oh, and BTW you bigoted arsehole, they’re not lazy.
I presume you’re talking about that silly “incentive” for unemployed to move from wherever (mostly Auckland?) to ChCh for the rebuild. Basically, I think that you are a just a lazy fuckwit who is too wank-arrogant or pig-stupid to think it through.
Lets completely ignore the basic risks like you have to organize a job remotely BEFORE you can get any assistance and don’t have the money for airfares. Or that there is absolutely no security on the job in the first 90 days and you can be fired at a whim. And that regardless of why you left the job, you’ll most likely have a long stand down period from WINZ.. Lets just look at the mechanics of getting you and maybe your family down to ChCh
Have you ever tried to move from rental accommodation to rental accommodation? Expensive to do because you have front up with between 4 and 8 weeks of rent in advance. Sure you are moving from a very expensive rent to a very slightly less expensive rent. But your bond from the old place is going to take between 4 and 8 weeks to arrive. You have to have money in the bank to do that. The amount that WINZ gives you is deliberately not enough to save anything.
Or you leave your family in Auckland, and just move yourself. But as soon as you do that then WINZ/CYFS starts penalising you for abandonment (the horror stories of parents trying to find work somewhere and having their kids stolen by the authorities are horrendous) and you now have two lots of rent, still a bond and advance rent.
Then you have to consider that if you take family, that you also have to cart some of your stuff. Car, kids stuff, kitchen gear, etc etc.
Last time I moved cities from Dunedin to Auckland (in 1989) with just two adults the cost was thousands, every way that I looked at it and that was just the household junk. In the end we ruthlessly pruned and I just bought a trailer. It was cheaper. Frigging hard to do that when you don’t have any savings. And I’ll bet that cost has increased a bit since then.
So effectively the government is expecting people to pick up stakes, move to a new city where there is a massive shortage of accommodation and do it with a pittance compared to the costs, to take a job that is probably at minimum wages, then offer no security of employment, and give you a good long stand-down period with no income if anything goes wrong.. Fuck off, who in their right mind would want to take that level of risk. Especially if they have kids to support.
Basically the governments plan was to have a worthless plan that virtually no-one would take up and which was pure window dressing.
It was aimed at smug lazy fuckwits like yourself who are incapable of thinking about other people and their situations without a bold dash of simple bigotry guiding your silly slogans. A pretty typical National supporter.
Perhaps you should try doing this yourself without assets, having kids, on WINZ, and being a wee bit behind in your rent. I’ll take a bet that you’d just be a complete coward and avoid every trying something that damn risky. Just another loudmouth gutless wonder…
(who will now proceed to whine that I called described him accurately, or will avoid answering)…
If you choose to turn your back on capitalism that’s your right
You don’t have to have 60 inch TVs or flash SUVs
Or expensive overseas holidays to live a happy life
But don’t ask me to fund your lifestyle
And don’t give me bullshit excuses
Have you even thought about what you said?
Or are you just sounding like an ad?
Do you not realise capitalism is coming to an end?
Neither your selfishness or your ignorant lifestyle
Will help then
My extended family arrived in Dunedin in 1848 with a suitcase
If you want to change your fate that’s what you do
You dont sit and wait for a government to help you because they never will
Only you can help your self
Everything else is just rearrangeing the deck chairs
Then you are ignorant of NZ history
Just like you are ignorant of NZ present
The 40 hour week
The break up of the big farming estates
The rural bank
NZ government has built this nation
Or at least given the people the tools to do so
Not this Tory shit hole government though
you do realise society has changed in the last 165 years?
Economic migration is a last-ditch solution. It is a leap of faith that, for poorer folk, means no return and even worse destitution if it fails.
Your extended family were rather laggardly weren’t they? Many families to here or Australia came over a lot earlier.
Most were economic migrants fleeing the destruction of craft jobs by mechanisation (always remember one weaver family member who arrived in aussie in the 1830s whose letters talked about the having to migrate from England to Ireland to Aussie as the mechanical mills took over) or the enclosure of the commons. Some came over after the various political purges across Europe in the 1840s.
But I guess you weren’t intelligent enough to read their letters where they laid out the desperation that caused them to migrate, preferring instead to have a mythic randian relationship with reality. I’m just surprised that you haven’t inserted a big gun (aka penis extender) in there somewhere as well.
capitalism isn’t ending
It destroyed communism
And continues to evolve
Because people like shinny cars
Big TVs
And holidays
[lprent: You appear to be astroturfing slogans rather than arguing. I have just seen a comment from you almost exactly like this one. I’d suggest you desist as it leads to inanely stupid “discussions” and I’m likely to throw you off the site (yet again) if you persist in this silly tactic.
It’d also be easier for others if you can learn to use reply or at least reference which comment you are replying to. ]
Capitalism is consuming itself
Gorging on the world’s last resources
Here that tune the piper does still play
One last song
Soon payment will be due and the younger generation will be left
With shattered dreams and desolate sacrifice zones (and your useless shiny holiday photos)
Thanks go to you
All of those were either developed by the state or unions often working against the wishes of the capitalists. If we had followed you ideology for the last 120 years or so we’d still be a poverty stricken country – just like the 19th century.
Dunedin was founded in 1848
Your forefathers can’t have been there before them
I never said anything about Dunedin. But some of my european relatives were whaling here in the 1820s and 1830s after coming over from Aussie. Many settled here by 1840. I don’t recall many coming over with the NZ Land Company settlements.
Ah.. I see. I am actually that rarity, a native born Aucklander. But I did a BSc at Waikato, and a MBA at Otago. They had better courses in my respective fields than Auckland Uni and were a lot cheaper to live in as a student.
In reply to irpent
No the reference wasn’t to some grant to move
When I was in my 20s in the late 80s
When labour was in power farming was a bit sick
I went to WA and did a seeding
Then worked in Brisbane for a while
Also moved to dunedin for a job after that
Worked in different parts of South Island for various jobs promotions etc
Only last 15 years in one place
I followed the work
Went to a city with just a bag
Had to find a job and accodomation etc
Put aside your national bad labour good hat for a second
If you don’t follow the jobs then u are stuck on the benefit and even if the government gives u a few extra bucks it’s still a shit existence
Who in the right mind wants to live in poverty
And before you say the government needs to create jobs
No government ever in New Zealand history. Has created long term sustainable jobs
We are a trading nation that can grow grass
Yes we have company’s like tait electronics or xero
But most of the country’s wealth has come from sheep or these days milk
And that won’t change any time soon
Sure you can do that and many have as single folk. But if you did, then why would you want to go to Christchurch? You are better off going to places like the Arab Emirates, as a couple of my younger Maori relatives did. Or to Aussie to run pubs. Pay is better and the bigotry is less laden with the weird overtones than Maori get here.
If you have a family as many of the skilled people required in ChCh do, then clearly Aussie is a far better bet. You will often get relocation expenses, the rules about arbitrarily firing people aren’t as draconian, and wages are better.
National has actually made the local labour market more rigid with things like the 90 day rule. It makes employees a whole lot more risk adverse when looking at employers because we have all met the arsehole ones. It is far better to go somewhere where the contracts are binding in both directions.
Also a gain Lynn
You said I was astro turfing in regards to the reply to cv
He said capitalism is dead
If you look up there is a series of
Slogans along the lines of
The end is nigh
Etc etc
From cv
It wasn’t a attempt at starting silly slogans
It was a reply
Also my understanding of nz history
Is( useing European settlement dates)
Nelson 1839
Wellington 1840
Auckland 1840
Dunedin 1848
Christchurch 1852
So 1848 not really that late
Yes there were a few traders/ whalers before that date but not many European people
So it wasn’t until the New Zealand company and their off shoots arrived that the numbers of Europeans changed
I am pleased to say the as far as I know none of my family had a free boat ride to NSW
We skipped that part and went straight to god zones