Open mike 28/08/2015

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1. North 1

   28 August 2015 at 6:51 am

   We’re on notice folks……that “nice man” we’re told we’d all love to have a beer with, The Ponce Key……looks like he’s winding up to set the dogs on us……Herald this morning re Dunedin TPPA protest last night……dog squad at the ready but not used. A stein of fascist lager anyone ?
   • Paul 1.1

     28 August 2015 at 7:00 am

     The article is clearly an attempt to undermine resistance to the TPP and further proof (if it were needed) of the Herald’s to this puppet government of the corporations.
     Remember that message from the US Embassy before the TPP protests about how they might pose a risk to US citizens.
     Dirty Politics, supported by a servile media, is doing what it can to get the TPP over the line.

     When does the Herald board have the courage to go behind a paywall?
2. dv 2

   28 August 2015 at 7:11 am

   Re the secret trial provision in Health and Safety legislation

   I read on a Trademe forum that it would be possible to keep the Mike Sabin trial secret using that new legislation.

   That would seem a stretch – but could it be right?
   • dv 2.1

     28 August 2015 at 8:02 am

     http://thestandard.org.nz/finlayson-criticises-law-society-but-gets-it-wrong/

     This would suggest that the interpretation was wrong.
3. Morrissey 3

   28 August 2015 at 7:18 am

   “So HARD to understand. Almost UNFATHOMABLE.”
   Luvvie Tandi Wright resolutely avoids mentioning that Anders Breivik was a terrorist
   Good Morning, Television One, Thursday 27 August 2015, 9:50 a.m.

   In the fallout of one horrific act, Claire, a liberal priest and choir leader, is forced to question the nature of evil and battle with the concept of forgiveness. It’s a journey that will take her to the edge of reason, science, politics and faith.
   http://silotheatre.co.nz/the-events

   On 22 July 2011 the Christian terrorist Anders Breivik killed killed eight people by setting off a van bomb amid government buildings in Oslo, then, posing as a policeman, shot dead sixty-nine young people at a summer camp on the island of Utøya.

   If YOU were to talk about this barbaric act, I’ll bet that you mention it was an act of terrorism. That is, unless you’re the editor of the National Business Review [1] or someone equally depraved. Or someone really, really shallow…..

   JEANETTE THOMAS: [brightly] She’s taken on a project that has polarized audiences around the world. Former Nothing Trivial star Tandi Wright a little later.

   Over the next half hour, there’s an interview with Dr Wayne Dyer, two songs by Jay Williams, film reviews, a recipe, then it’s time for Tandi Wright…..

   JEANETTE THOMAS: [speaking with all the gravity she can muster] Four years on we take another look at the tragedy which shook Norway to its core. Actress Tandi Wright after this.

   ….Advert for Puraz….

   JEANETTE THOMAS: Is murder the result of mental disease or dreadful wickedness? That’s the question posed by a new play about the tragedy in Norway. It’s called The Events and it features the former Nothing Trivial star Tandi Wright, who joins us in the studio. Gosh, it was truly shocking, wasn’t it.

   TANDI WRIGHT: So hard to understand. Almost unfathomable. Trying to understand that is the journey my character goes on.

   JEANETTE THOMAS: She’s a priest!

   TANDI WRIGHT: She’s a priest! Ha ha ha! She’s a good person, on a quest to understand. She’s desperate to know how one human being can do this to another. But it’s not grim! It’s funny, and it’s tender and it’s hopeful. We’ve got a different community choir on stage with us every night, I mean they represent us, they represent humanity and hope and, I, I think it’s going to be thrilling, actually.
   TANDI WRIGHT: Yes it’s very different. It’s so good for actors to go back to theatre because you can’t lie. Ha ha ha ha ha!

   JEANETTE THOMAS: Yes, you’re basically naked! Ha ha ha ha ha!

   TANDI WRIGHT: Basically naked! Ha ha ha ha! It’s sooooo truthful!

   JEANETTE THOMAS: Well, you’ve sold ME. I’ll be going! Thank you SO much for joining us! The Events is playing at Auckland’s Q Theatre from September the third to the twenty-sixth…..

   [1] http://www.nbr.co.nz/opinion/when-war-hero-not-one

   More Good Morning inanity…..
   http://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-08062013/#comment-645516
   • Draco T Bastard 3.1

     28 August 2015 at 7:41 am

     It’s been noted for quite some time the way white/christian terrorists aren’t called terrorists in the MSM.
     • ianmac 3.1.1

       28 August 2015 at 8:38 am

       And noted that “they” are Snipers but we are “sharp shooters.”
     • amy 3.1.2

       28 August 2015 at 9:39 am

       Sabra/shitilla sure were defined as Christian terroism, backed by Isreal. The various white surpremist groups in the US are constantly referred to (in US media) as terroists. Example is Oklahoma bombing.
       • Morrissey 3.1.2.1

         28 August 2015 at 4:45 pm

         The various white surpremist groups in the US are constantly referred to (in US media) as terrorists.

         No they are not. They are called “sick” and/or “racist” and/or “mentally diseased” and/or “wicked” and/or “un-American”—and often, as in the choice of language by that vapouring luvvie Tandi Wright, “unfathomable”.

         Example is Oklahoma bombing.

         Rubbish. The Muslim community was targeted for abuse after that, until the arrest of Timothy McVeigh, who was rarely if ever described as a terrorist.
   • amy 3.2

     28 August 2015 at 9:35 am

     If it is a ‘lone wolf’ the media tend to refer to it as a tragedy. When it’s part of an organization, like al queda or isis, it’s terrorism. Examples in NZ would be David Gray (‘tragedy’, mental illness etc). The Trades Hall bombing (‘terroism’)

     Surely not hard to understand. Not part of some anti-Muslim conspiracy.
4. Tautoko Mangō Mata 4

   28 August 2015 at 8:05 am

   “Gov. Doug Ducey announced the action against Centerville, Utah-based Management and Training Corp. after the state released a scathing report about numerous issues at the Kingman prison, including a “culture of casual indifference toward staff and training” that contributed to the riots.

   The state said the prison completed none of the mandated supervisor training for the 2015 fiscal year and claimed the company offers minimal training in the area of communication skills and crisis intervention for its guards.

   “What happened at Kingman was frightening, disturbing and completely unacceptable,” Ducey said at a news conference.”

   “A report on the riots released just as the governor was preparing to speak said the private prison operator actively discouraged its employees from being truthful with state Department of Corrections officials onsite.”
   http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/arizona-severs-ties-prison-operator-july-riots-33343765
   • Gangnam Style 4.1

     28 August 2015 at 8:16 am

     You seen ‘Orange Is The New Black’? Its a fairly lightweight comedy set in a womens prison but its bloody funny & highlights a few issues with state run vs private prisons. Through laughter & pathos it can show a broken & depressing system, worth watching if you can get it.

     In the 3rd series they have a bunch of new guards turn up & don;t give them proper training & the results are scary.
5. save NZ 5

   28 August 2015 at 8:38 am

   BIG beat up of Fonterra in today’s Nazi rag. Softening up the industry for deregulation and also talking it down so it can be sold off cheap to cronies.

   Ofcourse the commentator is
   • Tony Baldwin is an industry commentator and was leader of the Government project team responsible for facilitating the deregulation of New Zealand’s nine producer boards in 1999.

   Goodbye Fonterra, farmers change your votes next time, the weath is going to the chief executives of Fonterra NOT farmers… The execs are making crap decisions – running the company into the ground – and then low and behold sell it and make a fortune for themselves…

   Welcome to the softening up to the privatisation of our biggest earner.
   • les 5.1

     28 August 2015 at 8:42 am

     always remember the Apple and Pear board ,sold with brands like Fresh Up for about $50mil and valued around $200 mil apx 18 months later.Good deals for some.
     • save NZ 5.1.1

       28 August 2015 at 8:55 am

       Well the Nats are running out of decent assets to sell….

       Dairy’s next.

       Using the old trick to run down before hand, so it can be sold cheap.

       Notice that no mention of the current food scare scandal that decimated the much higher profits on infant milk powder… funny that!

       No analysis of that. Just how crap the farmers are.

       Also how they should be selecting the farmers milk, that’s kinda supermarket/zero contracts style. i.e. you produced this milk but sorry don’t need it today, try tomorrow…. hope the banks don’t mind when you get zero contracts income.

       What was the phrase…. Government contempt too overwhelming to ignore… and that goes for their advisers and cronies…
6. ianmac 6

   28 August 2015 at 8:58 am

   From Stuff: ” Family are at the scene where a farm worker has died after rolling his quad bike into a ditch.”
   Hope the Government sends their apologies?
   http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/farming/71526679/man-dies-after-quad-bike-rolls-in-waikato
   • Planet Earth 6.1

     28 August 2015 at 9:31 am

     This reflexive “National/John Key’s fault” reflects poorly on you – got anything respectful of the man who died, or otherwise constructive?
     • vto 6.1.1

       28 August 2015 at 9:33 am

       actually Planet Earth, you need to reverse that completely
     • ianmac 6.1.2

       28 August 2015 at 9:48 am

       Planet Earth. Clearly the new legislation would not have prevented this death but it will reflect on future farm deaths. It is out of sympathies for the victim and the families that we depend on government to do what is necessary. Yesterday the Government failed to do its Legislative duty.
       • Bearded Git 6.1.2.1

         28 August 2015 at 10:42 am

         The Act could have saved his life. My understanding is that roll bars are now compulsory on quad bikes in Australia.

         It has become obvious in recent years that quad bike injuries and deaths are a major contributor to workplace danger. Making roll bars compulsory could have been built into the H and S Act or as part of a parallel Act that tackled recurring specific causes of injury/death.
         • Charles 6.1.2.1.1

           28 August 2015 at 10:55 am

           heh, roll bars. Will they fit down existing rows of grapevines? Or, hey, how about people just learn about centres of gravity and momentum and don’t ride quads with full tanks of herbicide diagonally across 43 degree terrain? Farmers want to die, if they value their mindset and culture more than their lives, let them be I say. Anyone who doesn’t want to get sucked into that macho bullshit can move to the city where the long arm of the farm will attempt to kill them much more slowly, with homelessness and zero hour contracts. Only solution to extinguish an already dying culture with minimal casualties is to nationalise all farms. And that ain’t happening anytime soon.
     • weka 6.1.3

       28 August 2015 at 9:51 am

       The death comes a day after Parliament passed controversial health and safety legislation, which does does not classify farms as high risk, despite figures showing 108 fatalities in agriculture since the start of 2010, including 12 so far in 2015.

       Quad bike deaths account for just under a quarter of the fatalities over this period
7. The Chairman 7

   28 August 2015 at 9:03 am

   Why doesn’t TVNZ screen advertising during live streaming of the news?

   Surely they are missing out on revenue.
   • tc 7.1

     28 August 2015 at 10:32 am

     Because it would be too obvious so they mask it as ‘news’ instead
   • maui 7.2

     28 August 2015 at 1:59 pm

     They’re getting an hours worth of free neoliberal establishment and dumbing down advertising already so why bother.
8. Charles 8

   28 August 2015 at 11:24 am

   If at any time during your working day, this becomes necessary, you’re doing it wrong….

   http://www.edp24.co.uk/polopoly_fs/1.2252343.1372257805!/image/3939576334.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_630/3939576334.jpg

   Among other side-effects, efficiency will be greatly reduced, although RPM may increase unexpectedly. Please park your vehicle at the nearest shed, and go home.
   • Charles 8.1

     28 August 2015 at 11:49 am

     That reminds me, here you can see Kiwi culture in action: Anthony Bourdain rolls his quad bike under the unwatchful eye of an “expert” who immediately blames the victim.

     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-k8EvvbqqhM

     The whole episode is depressingly instructive about what we “hold dear”, but if you just want to see what motorised stupid looks like, advance the video to 17m10s thru 20 mins, for the general idea.

     What is up with “Kiwi” males? God. It’s an insult to men. A goddamn, crying shame. All macho, no shame, no ability to learn, no responsibility, no self control, no care exercised. Big boys. Keep voting National. A match made in hell. hahaha
9. Penny Bright 9

   28 August 2015 at 11:46 am

   Seen this?
   ———————————————————————-
   Subject: FW: Media Release Palestine Human Rights Campaign appalled that lone Palestinian propagandist invited to NZ

   Lone Palestinian Zionist Propagandist in New Zealand 27.08.15

   The Palestine Human Rights Campaign is appalled that lobby groups have invited Bassem Eid, founder of the now debunked Palestine Human Rights Monitoring Group, to speak in New Zealand. Zionist lobbying groups have assigned him the task of undermining pro-Palestine solidarity activism with a special focus on Boycott, Divestment, and Sanctions (BDS) campaigns.

   In 2005 Palestinian civil society called for a campaign of boycotts, divestment and sanctions (BDS) against Israel until it ends its occupation of Palestinian lands and complies with international law and respect Palestinian rights.

   PHRC spokesperson Tuma Hazou, himself a Palestinian refugee, says ” BDS is a non-violent initiative and allows people of conscience to play an effective role in the Palestinian people’s struggle for justice. But the growth of global support for BDS has alarmed Israel and a budget of 100 million shekels has been set aside to counter its impact”.

   Israeli-sponsored Zionist and pro-Israeli groups have countered with a hasbara (PR) campaign against all BDS initiatives and activists. Bassem Eid teamed with anti-Palestinian former Harvard University law professor Alan Dershowitz as the main speakers at last March’s Stand With Us Anti-BDS Conference in Los Angeles to combat the boycott movement against Israel.

   Eid has regularly engaged in outlandish attacks on the growing BDS movement, but finding a Palestinian willing to adopt and parrot the same hysterical, anti-Palestinian ranting makes Eid a particularly valuable asset for racist, Zionist organizations dedicated to undermining Palestinian rights.

   Hazou observes that ” Eid has willingly and wholeheartedly embraced his very lucrative role as a token Palestinian working not only to undermine Palestinian solidarity in support of the inalienable Palestinian human rights, but also to blame the Palestinians themselves for their own massacres at the hands of the Israeli military”. Why? Because Eid claims that they fail to rebel against both Hamas in Gaza and Fatah and the Palestinian Authority on the West Bank.

   He does not criticize Israel for the mass punishment and its war crimes against Palestinians as indicted by the UN Human Rights Council, Amnesty International and leading Israel human rights organisations such as B’Tselem and the Israeli Committee Against Home Demolitions.

   Bassem Eid has been calling upon the Palestinians to adopt non-violent means to attain their rights, yet he denounces the BDS campaign which is in essence a non-violent strategy adopted by the full spectrum of Palestinian civil society and supported by a growing global human rights movement.

   Tuma states that “Eid is a lone voice and DOES NOT speak for the oppressed Palestinians, although he shamelessly claims to speak for the “reasonable, peace-loving” element among the Palestinian people. Meanwhile he adopts the most extreme, right-wing Zionist positions and tours the world on behalf of the usurping apartheid Israel”.

   for the daily toll on Palestine (IOP In Occupied Palestine) http://www.palestine.org.nz
   BDS http://www.bdsmovement.net
10. Colonial Viper 10

    28 August 2015 at 12:26 pm

    Vaccination in one man created serious polio mutation threat to the unvaccinated for last 28 years

    A British man with an immune deficiency has been shedding a highly virulent, mutant strain of polio virus for nearly 30 years as a result of childhood vaccinations.

    The discovery has prompted scientists to warn of other patients who could unwittingly trigger fresh outbreaks of the disease in regions where people are not sufficiently protected against the illness.
    Africa’s year free of polio is giant step towards eradication
    Read more

    Researchers analysed more than 100 stool samples from the man and found mutated versions of the polio virus capable of causing paralysis. They believe he has been shedding the mutated strain for 28 years.

    The man had a full course of polio vaccinations, which included three doses of weakened live virus at 5, 7 and 12 months, followed by a booster jab when he was about seven years old. He was later diagnosed with a condition that suppresses the immune system, affecting its ability to kill viruses in his gut.

    Tests on the viruses found in the man’s stool samples revealed they had mutated from the weakened form used in the vaccines into a more dangerous strain.

    http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/aug/27/man-found-to-have-been-shedding-virulent-strain-of-polio-for-30-years
11. maui 11

    28 August 2015 at 2:07 pm

    We’re being extorted in this country and probably driving people to the wall. http://www.stuff.co.nz/nelson-mail/news/71502841/nelson-woman-faces-hefty-power-bill

    Stewart said she had since heard back from Contact Energy who had offered her a discount and said they would change her plan from a low user to standard which would save money

    That’s right as a “low user” you will be charged more than a “standard” user. These guys are taking the piss and practically working as a criminal gang.
12. Undecided 12

    28 August 2015 at 3:57 pm

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/71494062/freedom-denied-for-new-zealands-longest-serving-prisoner-alfred-thomas-vincent

    I would suggest that since this guy hasn’t molested any kids since hes been incarcerated that the much-maligned parole board has done something right
13. Chooky 13

    28 August 2015 at 6:56 pm

    This episode is interesting if just for the discussion on the TPPA and how it will affect ordinary USA citizens ….and why the left is failing in the USA

    Episode 802

    https://www.rt.com/shows/keiser-report/313595-episode-max-keiser-802/

    “Every week Max Keiser looks at all the scandal behind the financial news headlines.
    In this special episode of the Keiser Report from the Gulf Coast of Florida, Max Keiser and Stacy Herbert discuss BP settlements, fracking abandonments and Uber’s balance sheet.

    In the second half, Max interviews ‘America’s Lawyer’ Mike Papantonio about Loretta Lynch, Eric Holder and the failure of the left and progressive wing in America.”

    ( of course every episode of the ‘Keiser Report’ is great!)
14. rhinocrates 14

    28 August 2015 at 7:16 pm

    The pathetic state of UK Labour:

    https://overland.org.au/2015/08/tales-from-the-compliance-unit/

    They continue their purge of “undesirables” from the voting list by trawling through social media to check out whether any new applicants have expressed sentiments contrary to those of the Blairite hierarchy.

    When a catastrophe occurs, it can be guaranteed that the entrenched old guard will do their utmost to ensure that the wrong lessons are learned.

    In this case they do not want new members from diverse progressive movements – some are rejected using the red herring of “infiltration” for campaigning to support the NHS, which Labour was pathetic in doing, thus embarrassing them.

    A Labour party that has forgotten what it stands for and will not welcome new blood and new ideas and form new alliances is doomed, but that matters less to the grey hierarchy than keeping power within the exhausted shell of the party.

    It shows the tensions that can exist at a time when a party most needs to reform and reconnect – and instead digs a deeper hole.
    • Olwyn 14.1

      28 August 2015 at 7:37 pm

      What people fundamentally value shows up in what can force them to act swiftly and resourcefully. For example, it is said that when the great billiard-playing Lindrum family’s pub caught fire, they rushed to save their billiard table. With this lot, austerity did not evoke swift, resourceful action – it took a guy determined to oppose austerity to do that. And they don’t even seem to be embarrassed about it.
15. Descendant Of Sssmith 15

    28 August 2015 at 8:32 pm

    The fascists are coming…

    Well they were til there was an outcry.

    Favourite comment even if an oldie:

    “I hear the @AusBorderForce will be out on the street of Melbourne checking Visa’s. What if you only have Mastercard?”

    http://www.buzzfeed.com/markdistefano/federal-agents-will-be-checking-your-papers-on-the-streets-o#.pu9M65MZ

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