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The middle of Queens birthday weekend? Yeah right!

Written By: - Date published: 5:12 pm, June 22nd, 2014 - 220 comments
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Moira Coatsworth, Labour party president, has just put out a statement saying that one of the alleged fundraisers was:

The Herald on Sunday have, however, disclosed to us that Donghua Liu’s statement claims the fundraiser was held on 3 June 2007. We have found no record of any fundraiser held on that date.

Ok, so some part of the Labour party had a fund-raiser on the Sunday in the middle of Queens Birthday weekend?

june 2007What are those munters pretending to be journalists at the Herald on?  Haven’t they looked at a calendar for 2007? The 4th is Queens birthday. The third is a Sunday.

Absolutely no-one schedules fund-raisers for the Labour party in middle of a long weekend. That is because no-one will turn up. No-one typically schedules anything for Sunday either. That is because it is the day that MP’s usually spend with their families.

This is surely obvious even to some dumbarse journos?

But at least anyone who was at this mythic fundraiser will certainly remember it

Updated: The latest explanation from the NZ Herald reads

The statement from Liu said the $100,000 bottle was purchased at a fundraiser on “3-6-2007″. A Labour press statement said no fundraiser was held on June 3, 2007, but the date could be read as March 6, 2007.

This seems unlikely. That date would be in American notation. However China commonly uses the military format of yyyy-mm-dd.

As irascible says in comments. March 6th 2007 was a Tuesday which is also unlikely for a fund raiser. Fundraisers inside Labour are invariably held on Friday evenings or Saturdays because those are the best days to get large numbers of people attending.

On the subject of what is increasingly appearing to be the mythic “close to $100,000″ wine purchase.

Liu said he paid “close to $100,000″ for the prize, according to a signed statement dated May 3, a price tag Mr Barker called “an extraordinary and eye-watering amount, one that I would recall if it happened and I don’t”.

Mr Barker, who was Minister of Internal Affairs at the time, added: “Had $100,000 been paid for a bottle of wine at a fundraiser that I was not at, I am certain I would have been told about it and I haven’t. That figure for one item is considerably more than most fundraisers got in total.”

Mr Barker said he handed over a bottle of wine at a number of Labour fundraisers.

“I can say [the one handed to Ms Zhang] wasn’t a $100,000 bottle.”

Which is what people from Labour have been saying ever since the NZ Herald released this story. It is barely possible that $15,000 could have been paid at an auction without it being widely known amongst Labour activists and MPs. More information about the date and location would be required to pin it down amongst the large numbers of fund-raisers that happen inside of Labour.

But like Rick Barker, I’m incredulous that anyone can think that a $100,000 wasn’t the talk inside Labour in 2007. It is unheard of for such amounts to be made. We were gossiping when auction sales got over a thousand dollars.

Sure this might have happened in National – like John Key’s $50,000 tie. But like that, it would have been widely known and discussed in 2007 including in public.

Mr Liu has said

Liu said he would not make any further comments about political donations or swear an affidavit outlining dollar amounts.

“It’s important to remember that over the years I’ve given equally to governments of both colours.”

Which then leads to the question – why hasn’t the NZ Herald brought out information about the Liu donations to National? Perhaps they are as mythic as the ones to Labour? Or the NZ Heralds sources are inside National?

At this point I’d have to say that the NZ Herald investigations team looks about as credible as Mr Liu.

Updated: Just been listening to Tim Murphy on Morning Report.

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There are three things that stand out for me in this.

  • Tim Murphy seems to not understand the difference between a signed statement and a affidavit and appears to wave off the differences between the two. Perhaps he should get a lawyer to explain the difference in the Evidence Act to find out how crucial it is. I find it difficult to believe that an editor of a major news medium is unaware of the difference.
  • He said that they received the statement only in the last couple of days and that the source was not Mr Liu (and presumably not his legal representatives). So did this letter appear from the National party dirty tricks team or John Key’s top drawer? I suspect so. They, through their mouthpieces in their mouthpiece blogs at Whaleoil and Kiwiblog, have been the people pushing this mysterious affidavit from Liu line since last week.
  • Tim Murphy also said that they were trying to check out the statement and that was why they weren’t releasing it to Labour or into the public. Yet the Herald on Sunday released some of the content of this statement yesterday? Is that responsible journalism?

This whole exercise looks increasingly like a National party smear exercise that the NZ Herald has been going along with – without doing the type of checking that we expect from a responsible “news medium”.  Thye look like they are trying to descend to the depths of a smear blog like Whaleoil.

Tim Barnett, Labours current General Secretary, sounds like he is getting the same impression on a later segment on Morning Report.

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Statement from Moira Coatsworth, Labour Party President, Donghua Liu reported allegations – summary of facts

  • Several media organisations have reported that Donghua Liu claims he purchased a book for $15,000 at a Labour Party fundraiser in 2007. We have found no records of any such purchase. No-one has provided any documentary evidence to us that contradicts our records.
  • The Herald on Sunday has reported that Donghua Liu has signed a statement claiming he paid “close to $100,000” for wine at a 2007 Labour Party fundraiser. The Herald on Sunday have refused to provide us with a copy of the statement or even let us read the statement. We consider this to be a denial of natural justice.
  • The Herald on Sunday reports that Donghua Liu’s statement was signed on 3 May 2014, but the paper only contacted us about the statement yesterday. This delay raises serious questions.
  • The Herald on Sunday have, however, disclosed to us that Donghua Liu’s statement claims the fundraiser was held on 3 June 2007. We have found no record of any fundraiser held on that date.
  • We have had no approaches from the Electoral Commission or any regulatory agency. We have always cooperated with regulators, and will always do so when required.
  • We continue to call on Donghua Liu and any third parties who might have information about these allegations, including the Prime Minister, to place what they know into the public domain or to refer to the regulators.

220 comments on “The middle of Queens birthday weekend? Yeah right!”

  1. Lanthanide 1

    Moira should go through all party records and find out if any fundraisers have ever been held during Queens Birthday weekend, or indeed any other long weekend holiday.

    If they can come out and say “our records for the past 15 years indicate no fundraisers have ever been held on long weekends”, then it will cast serious doubt on Liu’s statement.

    • Anne 1.1

      I expect that is exactly what she and the H.O. staff will do Lanthanide. But that is a big job and, as she says in her statement… they were only given the info. yesterday.

      Iprent is correct. Party activities including fundraisers are never held on long weekends. I can’t speak for other political parties but long week-ends are sacrosanct in the Labour Party and I shouldn’t have to spell out the reason why…

      Fight fire with fire Labour. The National Party and their acolytes have sunk to a brand new low – as if that was possible, but apparently it is.

  2. vto 2

    The Herald is owned by big business corporates ffs, why on earth would you rely on them for anything independent or objective.

    The Herald objective and without conflicts of interest? ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha what a joke ..

  3. One Anonymous Bloke 3

    Yes, let’s all dance to the National Party’s cracked record some more! I live to discuss the minutiae of National Party smears, and the best thing is, they’ll never run out of material.

    • Ronnie Chow 3.1

      If the writer of these lines has succeeded in providing some material for clarifying these problems, he may regard his labours as not having been fruitless.

      • One Anonymous Bloke 3.1.1

        Going to take personal responsibility for spreading lies on the Hamstrung post Ronnie? Or don’t you have any?

  4. Tamati 4

    It’s bizarre that Mr. Liu would make such specific and substantial claims without evidence. Surely if he’s bullshitting, he knows that he would eventually be found out. I seriously hope the Labour party sue him for defamation, if he can’t produce anything to back up his claim. You simply can’t go around making accusations like this!

    I wonder if he bought a bottle of wine at a charity auction or something and erroneously thought he was donating to the Labour party? About the only reasonable explanation. He will have a record of this somewhere, bank statements, cheque butt, unless he’s claiming he handing the party a brown paper bag full of cash?

    • dave 4.1

      i want an apoligy from the media and a retraction

    • Ronnie Chow 4.2

      In the history of modern socialism this is a phenomenon, that the strife of the various trends within the socialist movement has from national become international.
      I like your post and your posts on whaleoil,bro.

  5. dave 5

    it would be insane run a fund raiser on a long weekend.your right it never happened and if it did it wasn’t a labour fund raiser i think the Chinaman has been scammed by a imposter may he was sold Auckland harbour bridge as well!

  6. karol 6

    And TV3 News is slanting it to being Labour’s problem, and reporting the allegations strongly, without dirtectly saying the allegations are not supported by any evidence.

    One News was more balanced.

    TV3 clearly does not want a Labour-led government – ditto the NZ Herald.

    • newsense 6.1

      Yep contrast these two headlines:

      TV3: Liu hits back in donations saga

      TVNZ: Labour Party challenging donation accusations

      TV3 does not even acknowledge that the veracity of Mr Liu’s evidence is being challenged. It seems like a supreme case of soundbite reporting. There is little or no depth to the analysis.

    • jcuknz 6.2

      The amusing thing about your comment Karol is that over at Kiwiblog they think TV3 and the Herald are rat infested Labour strongholds …. as an ex TV News worker it seems to bear out our belief that we were doing our job correctly and despite our unspoken personal beliefs we were doing our job properly with an even handed approach.

      • karol 6.2.1

        Actually, jcuknz, your comment shows exactly what is wrong with the likes of TV3 and the Herald – especially with their editors and managers.

        ‘We are criticised by both sides” is the lame argument the MSM trots out. It’s totally superficial, and does not show any attempt to look at their productions in any kind of critical depth.

        Lynn’s post spells out exactly what is wrong with the media coverage and it pretty much looks like key players in the MSM are all out to ensure the Nats get back into government at the election.

        • jcuknz 6.2.1.1

          Karol .. I am not disagreeing with you except that I am laughing at both left and right wingers as they namecall the media as favouring their opposition. I guess it is human nature but these days the polarisation seems much worse than it used to be even a year ago when I was reading alternately both KB and The Standard and changed as each in turn seemed to be going over the top. Today both are equally beyond the sensible limits of discussion in their antipathy to the rival party[s], parliamentarians and media.

  7. Chooky 7

    ‘Facts about that mystery $100 000 bottle of wine and standards of Journalism in NZ’

    By Martyn Bradbury / June 22, 2014

    Is this kind of journalism the standard of 4th estate responsibility a democracy 3 months out from an election demands? This looks like the entire mainstream media have swallowed a manufactured National Party smear and uncritically run it as headlines…..

  8. Tom Jackson 8

    Wouldn’t it be funny if turns out that Mr Liu had mistaken one of the other far right, neoliberal political parties in NZ for Labour?

    “But they are all so alike…”
    ;-)

  9. Pete 9

    I did a search on Newztext to see what was going on that weekend. It turns out the Greens were holding their conference in Nelson. I couldn’t find any record of a Labour conference or regional meeting from that time, the closest I could find was a regional meeting on 15 May celebrating Labour’s links with Ratana.

    • lprent 9.1

      The Greens always hold their conferences on long weekends as far as I can tell.

      But surely anyone (including journos) will know that Labour doesn’t do squat on long weekends. Speeches for the media maybe. But even then never on a sunday

  10. Jenny Kirk 10

    What was the date of the fundraiser where Liu allegedly purchased wine for $100k ? And where was it held ? These details should be in Liu’s statement so it can be checked out. Very few Labour fundraisers brought in that sort of money – and both LPrent and Anne are correct. Labour just doesn’t hold fundraisers on Long Weekends, on the Friday beforehand, and nor on Sundays – too many people have church obligatins on Sundays.

  11. dave 11

    of course they don’t because i think there serious questions the NZ media need to answer relating to interference in the electoral process an inquiry needs to set up up to get bottom of nationals control of media outlets and the blatant manipulation and lies

  12. BM 12

    Remember though, Cunliffe did do his state of the nation ,kick of the election speech on Auckland anniversary and the same day Lorde was up for a couple of grammys, so don’t rule it out.

    Most people with an once of sense would think what a ridiculous time to hold a fund raiser but this is Labour we’re talking about, so anything is possible.

    • Jackal 12.1

      I think you’re clasping at imaginary straws there BM. Mistakes like this are exactly what any judge would consider in making a decision about any defamation claims that should ensue.

      If I was Donghua Liu, the PM, certain National MP’s or their media lackey’s I would be a little worried about the burden of proof and exactly what was published.

      Funnily enough their fabrications appear to be unravelling on the same day they weave them, which as far as underhanded smear campaigns go is entirely pathetic!

    • lprent 12.2

      A speech maybe. They are done for media. But a fund raiser? No way.

      The speech in Auckland on anniversary weekend – the worry was that it wouldn’t be well attended. Which was why the venue picked was so small. They had to move it to a larger venue to accommodate the people the people who RSVP’ed.

  13. NZJester 13

    Anyone donating that sort of Money at a Labour fundraiser would stand out. If he is foggy on the date, maybe he is also foggy on what party he donated that money to. While someone donating big like that to a left leaning party fundraiser would stand out, at a right leaning party fundraiser they are far less likely to stand out.
    There has been lots of proof about what National people have done wrong in this case but no proof any Labour people having done anything wrong, yet certain unbalanced press articles are still attacking Labour and letting National slide on its short term memory fades.
    Do business people not realise that only really big businesses do well under National and medium to small business only do well under Labour. Labor put money in the pockets of their customers to spend at those businesses allowing them to grow. Under National their customers can not afford to spend much money with them and the tax breaks that National gives them gain them far less money than the loss of income due to a decrease in cash-flow from customers that can’t afford to buy their products. Any amount of money put into the bottom rungs of society will trickle up to them. Very little of the money put in to the top rungs of society will trickle down to them as it would be silly to invest in a company not making money. That money will stay at the top locked away mostly in overseas investments or family trusts with a very tiny amount trickling down.

  14. Tracey 14

    why would he go to the trouble and expense of consulting lawyers doing an affidavit in mandarin, getting it translated and not annex evidence? unless it is a drip drip drip thing

    • That’s the point, Tracey.

      Liu didn’t do an affidavit. He simply signed a statement.

      The former has legal standing under the Evidence Act 2006 – the latter does not.

      That, in itself, should raise suspicions as to what is going on.

      • Tracey 14.1.1

        Agree. I was only calling it an affidavit cos grumpy used the word fifty times on friday, so certain was he of its existence.

  15. Skinny 15

    The simple truth is this is not the current Labour Administrations problem. The Leadership need to be shrugging it off.

    I would continue to squarely pass the buck straight back on Mike Williams to field any questions relating to 2007. I certainly would tread carefully rather than kicking the shit out of a known donator (if he did). We don’t need a repeat of the Owen Glenn shambles do we team?

  16. Grumpy 16

    By now Labour should know all about this Liu and all the implications. Barker would have been interrogated ad infinitum.
    The problem that Labour have depends on if there is more to this, if it’s bullshit, they need to come out and say that, safe in the knowledge that nothing will prove them wrong.
    If they know there is dodgy stuff or even not sure they need to duck for cover and call for an internal enquiry – end result, throw someone under a bus, preferably someone no longer in the party.
    The danger is, if there is more to come and some of those are still high up in the party – what then?
    This week will be interesting.

  17. Anne 17

    She said the Herald on Sunday today reported that Liu signed a statement claiming he paid “close to $100,000″ for wine at a 2007 Labour Party fundraiser, but it had refused to provide Labour with a copy “or let us read the statement”.

    You have to wonder why the Herald won’t supply Labour with a copy of the “statement”. That is the fair and just thing to do. Could it be there is defamatory claims that can’t be substantiated? Or maybe it contains detail of National’s involvement in the affair? Or perhaps it names one or two senior National Party personnel who have been in contact with Liu and co?

    • karol 17.1

      Could it be that the statement was signed in front of Michael Woodhouse?

      ie it was allegedly signed on May 3.

      On May 7 it was reported that Woodhouse met Liu in his hotel some time in April or May. That sounds like it may have been a week or so prior to May 7.

      • Anne 17.1.1

        And does Williamson fit in to that time frame too? Just a thought.

        • karol 17.1.1.1

          According to that article I linked to above, Williamson resigned on Thursday 1 May. So then Liu signed the letter on 3 May. And Woodhouse probably visited Liu around that time.

          • Anne 17.1.1.1.1

            Yep. The pattern is nicely coming together.

          • Kiwiri 17.1.1.1.2

            Is there a thorough timeline, esp from the time Liu wanted Nats to approve his citizenship? From what I am aware, would this be right?

            2010:
            * Dept of Internal Affairs (Immig) declined citizenship for Liu
            * Minister Williamson and Akl Mayor John Banks lobbied Internal Affairs (Immig) Minister Nathan Guy
            * Nathan, disregarding Dept of Internal Affairs, approves citizenship application for Liu

            2011:
            * Williamson and John Key at opening of Liu’s $70 million Newmarket development project

            2012:
            * Liu donates $22,000 to the National Party

            2013:
            * Apr 1st: Liu pleads guilty to domestic violence
            * May 1st: Williamson resigns
            * May ? (before May 7th): Woodhouse meets with Liu for policy to have non-English investors to migrate to NZ for less than $10m, and (?) the Newmarket development project stalls and on hold indefinitely
            * May 3rd: Liu signs ‘statement’
            * Aug: Liu to be sentenced

          • NZ Femme 17.1.1.1.3

            yup. Then 5 days later on the 8th Jared Savage sends his original OIA requests to Immigration and DIA, and oddly enough so does Woodhouse. (states he was interested in the “tidiness” of the file) The following day Woodhouse has knowledge of the Cunliffe letter and passes it on to the PM.

            • Kiwiri 17.1.1.1.3.1

              Ok, NZ Femme .. an update taking into account your details and other info online .. would this be right:

              2013:
              * Apr 1st: Liu pleads guilty to domestic violence
              * May 1st: Williamson resigns
              * May ? (before May 7th): Woodhouse meets with Liu for policy to have non-English investors to migrate to NZ for less than $10m, and (?) the Newmarket development project stalls and on hold indefinitely
              * May 3rd: Liu signs ‘statement’
              * May 8th: Jared Savage, NZ Herald, sends OIA request to DIA(Immig)
              * May 8th: (!) Woodhouse asks for file from DIA(Immig)
              * May 9th: Woodhouse told by DIA about pre-citizenship documents, i.e. permanent resident application-related letter from Cunliffe
              * May 10th or 11th: Woodhouse-John Key office communicates
              * Rest of May: Woodhouse’s office gives copies to John Key’s office

              *Jun 18th: DIA(Immig) releases letter to NZ Herald
              *Jun 18th: Cunliffe told about OIA release, just minutes before the release
              *Jun 19th: Woodhouse tells three different stories (denies telling Key about the documents; says his office briefed Key’s office; his office says Woodhouse himself told Key’s office, as well as Woodhouse’s office giving letters to Key’s office)
              *Aug: Liu to be sentenced
              *Sep 20th: Polling day

              • Colonial Viper

                But someone before May 8 must have briefed Savage on exactly what to ask for in his OIA, yes? That someone already knew that the Cunliffe letter was in the file.

                • Kiwiri

                  Yup. Just circling and getting a bird’s eye view. Before helping to pinpoint and go for the swoop.

                  Show us the statement!

                  By the way, there should be another upcoming timeline:

                  Second half of June: Woodhouse resigns :-)

                  • Colonial Viper

                    Love the team work

                    • Kiwiri

                      Ooh, there is another strand, with some liberal editing:

                      Jun 5th (Thu): Banks found guilty; Coral Blue Botox Boag trails Banks … with rope not visible to the media (to rescue or hang him?); Banks refuses to go and invokes the Gods of Hypocrisy, Lies and Greed to back him, while singing about the rain or some such. Meanwhile, Boag (adviser to Banks’ failed mayoral campaign) stridently argues that it is all fine, everybody else does it too, and refers to chill going up the spine (hers?)

                      Jun 8th (Sunday dump, to kill the story and help Key get off to a headache-less week): Banks announces will put in resignation letter the next day. Botoxed Boag was at hand to serve the cup of hemlock. Banks remembers the JohnKey cup of tea with much fondness and nostalgia, sings and drinks.

                • NZ Femme

                  Apparently Jared’s first request was too broad – which is why he had to refine it when it was refused on the 16th. He resent it the same day.

                  He has been following the Liu case closely for quite a while – he broke the story on Williamson.

                  • Kiwiri

                    The requests by Jared, initially and more narrowly reworded, would be worth seeing.

                    • NZ Femme

                      I know Frank Mackasey has a bunch of OIA requests in. Not sure he’s got an OIA request for the Savage requests though. Would be good to see them, yes.

              • Colonial Viper

                Answer me this question: why would someone who has plead guilty to criminal charges then quickly decide to sign a risky, politically charged document BEFORE his criminal sentencing is scheduled to occur.

                Under normal circumstances would the standard advice not be – lie low?

                • NZ Femme

                  Maybe he thought it was worth the risk.

                • Kiwiri

                  Good question, CV.

                  From the timeline, it is clear it was actually after Liu pleaded guilty and ?after Williamson resigned that Liu had the meeting, lobbied, and did various other things with Woodhouse.

                  edit: All that raise more questions about the influence and ability of Liu in attracting a Minister of Immigration/DIA to meet, after he (Liu) had already been in the news about the domestic violence guilty case and the Williamson connection/cronyism/resignation. Many MPs, let alone any Minister, would be keeping a long distance away.

                  What was going on? What did Liu have, or want, or wished to talk about? What was Woodhouse really up to?

                  • Tracey

                    my question exactly. why would a minister meet with someone within days a fellow minister got sacked for helping him?

                    And this minister is appearing to be a puppet lying on cue for those above him

                  • weka

                    It’s possible NACT have something on Liu that Liu doesn’t want to come out.

                • Chooky

                  @ CV …maybe he is a pathological liar?…such people are often not cautious

                  …and he is a NACT supporter/poodle

                  …John Key and Nact will be keen to use him to distract from their own corruption and dealings elsewhere

              • NZ Femme

                Also – DIA refuses Savage’s OIA request for letters of support from Banks and Williamson. Those are still with the Ombudsman.

                • Kiwiri

                  Thanks, NZ Femme. At 10pm on Sunday, I think I have to pass the baton.
                  How about someone update and assemble the timeline in whole?
                  Worth a post?
                  The Nasty Nuts set-up is probably hiding a few things in the smears and bullshit.

                  • NZ Femme

                    Just a couple more points

                    The original OIA requests from Savage for immigration material on Liu were to the MBIE. (Woodhouse) The OIA requests for letters of support from Williamson and Banks were to the DIA.(Dunne) Under the SSC 2014 guidelines for the election year, staff must consult with their Minister when an OIA request may be controversial.

                    I noticed a discrepancy(?) earlier around Woodhouse’s stated meeting with Liu when reading the May 8th Hansard debate, question 12.

                    Wednesday 7th May, he confirmed to the Herald he met with Liu “in April or May”. (No year mentioned)

                    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11251292

                    Thursday 8th May in the House, he said:
                    “When I met Mr Liu in 2013…”
                    and
                    ” I have met Mr Liu on one occasion, and it was on that occasion that he raised immigration issues. As far as I can recall, that is the only time.”

                    http://www.parliament.nz/en-nz/pb/debates/debates/50HansD_20140508_00000008/questions-for-oral-answer-%E2%80%94-questions-to-ministers

                    I can’t see any amendment to his answer at a later date.

                    • Kiwiri

                      Very fishy with Woodhouse.

                      Ministers are supposedly extremely busy people with many meetings booked in their diary.

                      Woodhouse can’t just be vague about whether the meeting was “in April or May”. His meeting with Liu would have been arranged, scheduled and traceable in his diary.

                      His stories at several vital points during this Liu saga have changed numerous times already.

                    • NZ Femme

                      Just checked Gower’s coverage of the Woodhouse/Liu meeting.

                      “I had a meeting with him once in about April or May last year where we traversed a range of those issues,” says Mr Woodhouse.

                      http://www.3news.co.nz/Woodhouse-discussed-immigration-with-Liu/tabid/1607/articleID/343193/Default.aspx

                    • karol

                      Ah. Thanks, NZFemme – different April/May form the 3 May signed Liu statement.

                    • Anne

                      Thanks for the clarification NZ Femme.

                      That alters the time-line a bit but doesn’t change anything much. What it might mean is that the Williamson link becomes more important. The basic suspicion that there were secret assignations with Nat Party personnel which culminated in Liu signing a statement of claims against the Labour Party is still as valid as ever.

                    • NZ Femme

                      Yes, agree with you Anne. I really hope the Ombudsman releases the Williamson and Banks letters soon.

                    • Tracey

                      i thought joyce was mbie?

                    • Tracey

                      are banks and wiliamson the only ones? How do we know only cunliffe wrote about his PR?

                    • NZ Femme

                      MBIE oversees the Immigration service – it has more than one portfolio, kinda like the DIA which has 6.

                    • Tracey

                      understood. I deal with the previous dbh, which is now inside joyces whale.

                    • NZ Femme

                      Tracey, Chris Carter’s office also supplied assistance to Liu. Don’t have the link handy, but the letter was published last week. As I understand it, Savage requested info from the MBIE for the 2002-2005 period which covers the residency time-frame, and was when Labour were the incumbents.

              • Anne

                Liu signs a statement on 3rd May. But when was the statement drawn up and who else had input into it? At that time Liu would have been extremely confident of his position. Cabinet ministers in attendance, the prime minister in the back-ground, and no doubt Nat president, Goodfellow (what a misnomer) was in on it. He thought he could say what he liked and get away with it given the important people he believed he had around him. So he exaggerated donations he (may) have made, and concocted the rest?

                I heard Barker talking on Nat.Rad about the claims made about him. It was clear he never went on any $50,000 cruise. He didn’t even know the dinner was on a boat until he arrived at the venue. He realised it was a staff function of some sort and felt out of place so I imagine he left the dinner party as soon as he could without insulting his host.

                What’s the bet they’ve all deserted Liu now they have what they wanted. Not that I have any sympathy for the individual. I hope he eventually gets drummed out of the country.

                Wrong year Kiwiri :wink:

                • Kiwiri

                  yup, thanks for pointing that out.

                  • Kiwiri

                    Yup, there should be more about the Williamson and Banks involvement that is not out yet.

                    Without bringing in other things I have heard, and from just assembling the timeline,

                    …. it seems to me that given much more would be revealed that would reflect badly on Nats, they decided to proactively use what was about to come up to throw things on Cunliffe ?

                • Chooky

                  +100 Anne…”I hope he eventually gets drummed out of the country.”

                  ….the longer this goes on and nothing comes of it…. the more it is going to backfire on him and John Key’s National…i think even National Party people will be disguisted

                  John Key has brought the National Party to new lows imo

              • ianmac

                @Kiwiri:”* May ? (before May 7th): Woodhouse meets with Liu for policy to have non-English investors to migrate to NZ for less than $10m, and (?) the Newmarket development project stalls and on hold indefinitely
                * May 3rd: Liu signs ‘statement’”
                What a great primary question for Woodhouse.
                “What was the date and time that Mr Woodhouse met Mr Liu in the hotel?”
                As a primary question there is no dodging or ducking. Depending on the answer other questions follow. Borrowed Iprent’s :twisted:

      • jcuknz 17.1.2

        Of perhaps it was the sixth of the third rather than the third of the sixth? That apparently is a Tuesday :)

    • Colonial Viper 17.2

      very well worth following up

      Forget news journalism, checking sources, cross referencing facts etc. With this, the NZ Herald has lowered itself to the status of a gossip rag.

      • Ronnie Chow 17.2.1

        “the NZ Herald has lowered itself to the status of a gossip rag.”

        Not bad for a left-leaning publication.The worm is turning.Their pinko writers are beginning to dislike Labour with intensity.Last man standing,turn out the lights.It’s only 2 minutes to the tranny’s on K road,isn’t it Lynn?

        • Colonial Viper 17.2.1.1

          The NZ Herald is “left leaning” in the same way that Margaret Thatcher was “left leaning”

          It’s only 2 minutes to the tranny’s on K road,isn’t it Lynn?

          You’re being a little shit Ronnie.

        • lprent 17.2.1.2

          It’s only 2 minutes to the tranny’s on K road,isn’t it Lynn?

          So? In the 16 years that I have owned this apartment, they have never bothered me, and I never bothered them. I’m a native Aucklander, we’re really not that interested in things that don’t interest us.

          I brought this place because of its proximity to the phone exchange, motorways, that it had two parking spaces, and that it has an 11ft stud.

          My partner Lyn was interested in them for a while – as a maker of documentaries. I gather open trannies are a rarity in Invercargill. But now she pays them as much attention as I do. Not much.

          It is the hicks like you from the right that spend all of the times being fascinated by other peoples sexual habits. Perhaps you should go and satisfy your prurient interest, hire one, and get over it?

          But they like virgin redneck meat, and they’re tolerant. They won’t hold your stupidity against you. Besides which they can use the cash. I gather the operations are pretty expensive.

          • Stephanie Rodgers 17.2.1.2.1

            “Trannies” is a slur, lprent. And no sex workers, trans or cis, deserve to be in a financial position where they have to take money from judgemental wankers like Ronnie there.

            • lprent 17.2.1.2.1.1

              I agree. Which is why I didn’t use it.

              However the dickhead I was responding to clearly has deep seated sexually based issues that he should learn to resolve. He should learn to take professional help.

  18. fisiani 18

    A government in waiting. Yeah right. This scandal will run and run till the next one. Labour polling will continue to slide and for once I now think that the Greens will poll higher than Labour.

    • Colonial Viper 18.1

      Likely range

      Labour 30% – 34%
      Greens 11% – 14%

      Winston is still likely to be King Maker

    • mickysavage 18.2

      Fisi can you help my understanding of this matter …

      Labour received a donation from a Chinese businessman.

      National received a donation from a Chinese businessman AND a minister of the crown interfered in a police prosecution.

      So why is this bad for Labour and good for National?

      Seems to me National is the one with all the problems …

      • fisiani 18.2.1

        Simple. Williamson resigned. End of story. The Cunliffe has not resigned. He is polling worse than Shearer. He will be shorn in September.
        Also very culturally unacceptable to not use my full name.

        • karol 18.2.1.1

          It’s not about the polls.

          What has the donation to do with Cunliffe?

          He was not a minister. He didn’t interfere in a crown prosecution case.

          • fisiani 18.2.1.1.1

            You don’t get perception do you?

            • McFlock 18.2.1.1.1.1

              Ah, so national are evil, but better at spinning the story.

              You don’t get “ethics”, do you, fucktard?

            • Delia 18.2.1.1.1.2

              You mean the perception that more and more voters are getting that National will cling to any whisper of scandal to keep itself in power. Old letters, and vague whispers about donations. Yeah, that will bring Labour down.

            • appleboy 18.2.1.1.1.3

              another droll utterance from everyone’s least favourite troll – no wonder you’re single after all these years. You should have got out more but now …well it’s too late really isn’t it as some things can’t be changed. The best your right winging nasty life can be is trolling here.

              I’ve met your ilk and it’s always a sad , lonely and tragic wee man behind these comments you incessantly bleat here to an audience who doesn’t give a shit what you say. Go back to Whaleoil and feel like man for a moment, just a moment . Bye!

            • karol 18.2.1.1.1.4

              Oh – I do get how righties try to manipulate perceptions. It’s called propaganda, and in a democracy, the news media should be highly critical of such propaganda.

      • Grumpy 18.2.2

        Why did Cunliffe write the letter for someone he had never met and was not one of his constituents?

        • Colonial Viper 18.2.2.1

          Happens. Liu was working through immigration agents who were the likely contact points as Cunliffe himself does not speak Mandarin.

  19. blue leopard 19

    I think the DonghuaDude @ twitter account has it about right:

    http://twitter.com/DonghuaDude/media

  20. Scott1 20

    Tracey,
    it is clearly a drip, drip thing.
    When you are in this sort of situation you drip feed so that you can win both if the other side comes clean with things you didn’t know for sure AND if they deny things that you do know for sure.

    • Colonial Viper 20.1

      All about the Thorndon game, nothing about moving the nation forward.

  21. Jack 21

    I can definitely smell a rat with what is happening on this Smear Campaign by National, if they don’t have the facts correct it will blow up in theirs faces bigtime. Hopefully Labour haven’t got any skeletons in the closet if so get them out fast and put all the cards on the table.

    • Bearded Git 21.1

      +100 Jack. I think it is already blowing up in the Nats faces. Murphy (NZ Herald editor) sounded shifty, didn’t have any factual answers, refused to reveal his sources (Key) and attacked Labour on MR this morning (Listen above). No bias there then.

      Meanwhile Barnett Labour Party general secretary, (also on MR) sounded honest and genuine.

      I think Morning Report is starting to ask real questions on this issue (not before time) because it is now becoming obvious that Labour has been set up in a classic smear campaign.

      Once the truth comes out I don’t think this will reflect well on Key with the voters.

  22. dimebag russell 22

    in the meantime they going to cut down thousands of acres of native forest on the west coast.
    $$$$$$

    • Grumpy 22.1

      It’s already down, they are just clearing up.

      • McFlock 22.1.1

        clearing up all that messy nature that gets in the way of making a buck.

        • infused 22.1.1.1

          Don’t be a retard. The trees have come down. They should be able to make something off it, rather than leave it there to rot. That’s fucking stupid.

          • framu 22.1.1.1.1

            yes because nothing at all happens on the forest floor does it

          • jcuknz 22.1.1.1.2

            As I understand it some will rot and some will be salvaged where that can be done without undue damage to the environment,

  23. appleboy 23

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11278520

    In the above link, our ridiculous Herald reported

    “Liu said he would not make any further comments about political donations or swear an affidavit outlining dollar amounts”.

    Eh????????????????????

    • karol 23.1

      The Herald article today was based on a signed statement from May 3rd that they had acquired.

  24. Weepu's beard 24

    Why are the media publishing statements from a man who has pleaded guilty to charges of domestic violence? Domestic violence is a major problem in our country and a man like this should be keeping his head down I would have thought.

    He has admitted he is a wife-beater.

  25. Jrobin 25

    I have a theory.
    Nats and whaleoil note the three month rule. See their chance to roll leftist leader.
    Also note that short, fat but heroic PM will be grandstanding in press releases that only make news in NZ at this time showing close friendship with puppet president of large militarist banana republic, providing clear contrast with bumbling local leftist leader.
    Liu is in vulnerable position legally due to assaulting several family members, offers to make up slurs on Labour in mistaken belief Nats own the Judiciary.
    Meets Woodlouse and together with other geniuses, they concoct suitable story.
    Nats then bribe Hipster unfairfax pollsters to poll right leaning areas to concoct a fake poll which will be released immediately after Herald article on letter.
    Old journalist with credibility used to set up a conservative respectable face for certain less than credible known bloggers and gossips.
    Nats believe the ABCs will roll Cunliffe with trio of bad news. Letter, poll, donation.
    …….
    Cunliffe does not resign so plot starts to go pear shaped!!
    …….
    Liu now being asked to provide affidavit starts to run for cover.
    Strangely begins to miraculously speak in fluent English about how sad he is about nasty comments about him. No translator is cited to explainthis magical speaking in tongues for the Herald article.
    Herald now panicking try to drip feed backstory of Luis signed letter early May re donation to justify sloppy journalism.
    Strangely no fundraiser was held at the cited time or place.
    Another magical event has occurred….. Invisible cash donated at fundraiser occurring in parallel universe somewhere in the galaxy……..

    • McFlock 25.1

      The other interesting thing is that in RM Shearer’s peak was last september.
      His lowest points seem to be Autumn/winter, e.g. last july, when the full “a letter is being circulated” bullshit was being plugged.

      Seems to me that the nactoids might realise that this is their only chance to roll cunliffe before he improves.

      • Colonial Viper 25.1.1

        btw McFlock I now agree with your premise last year that changing leadership from Shearer was not in of itself going to fix a lot of the problems hindering Labour. A work in progress.

    • freedom 25.2

      It’s got the makings of a half decent flick Jrobin, well there’s no sex and the bad guy is a bit transparent, but hollow men are a Warner Bros specialty :)

    • Colonial Viper 25.3

      Jrobin – nicely written. I especially liked this bit

      Meets Woodlouse and together with other geniuses, they concoct suitable story.

      I also surmise that Liu thought the NATs could help him out with sentencing (= usual practice in China) and the NATs would have talked that up.

      • RedLogix 25.3.1

        I’m grateful for the courage and commitment you guys are showing in this battle.

        Having been out of the loop for a while I find myself reading this story with – an emotion I cannot quite name. It’s not dread or sadness – it’s a more a dull, tired foreboding. I think events entirely outside of anyone’c predicting or control will unravel the Establishment. When societies polarise to this extent they become unstable and inevitably some precipitating event triggers unstoppable changes.

        For now I just don’t want to write anymore – except to pass on my highest regards.

      • Kiwiri 25.3.2

        John Banks had already majorly pissed off a donor for cutting off contact when that donor had a lousy prison mattress that was awful for his back.

        The National Party stewards would not have wanted to repeat that kind of treatment for donor Liu and Woodhouse could well have been advised not to avoid Liu but to have a chat and see what arrangements can be struck?

      • Tracey 25.3.3

        except woodhouse is no genius, a liar in the making but probably not yet capable of making up his own lies

    • Karen 25.4

      +1 Jrobin

  26. Jrobin 26

    Pity you cannot OIA The Herald. It might be worth making formal complaints to Broadcasting Standards regarding libellous statements and falsely attributing cited statements.

    • Pete 26.1

      The Herald would be covered by the Press Council, not the BSA. But given the short time before the election, I doubt it would help in time. It’s already a process story rather than a policy story.

      I suggest the Party appoint an independent auditor as soon as possible to check its accounts for 2007. Maybe even a couple of years either side just to be safe. In the meantime continue with the put-up-or-shut-up line and carry on with the campaign.

  27. Jrobin 27

    Yes, release some more policy and get on with deciding the List. The National Party haven’t released any policy except the Budget most of which was watered down Labour policy. Cunliffe may be right people are fed up with this bs and anything positive will be a relief.

  28. irascible 28

    The other fault is that the Herald’s alternate date the 6th March 2007 was a Tuesday evening. Again, it would be highly unusual for a major fund raiser to be held on a Tuesday evening. In all my experience of such events they’re invariably held on Friday or Saturday evenings in order to get the maximum attendance.

    • Colonial Viper 28.1

      I think the Herald has got itself into a major pickle. Either it puts up or it shuts up – with a front page apology, thank you.

      • One Anonymous Bloke 28.1.1

        Dear New Zealand, as a Tory propaganda outlet we set the benchmark so low you won’t even trip over it in the dark. Some ferals use our comments section to say so, and we know the pain that causes real New Zealanders. We’d like to apologise to you (the real Kiwis) and hope that our going behind a paywall will go some way towards keeping these people out.

        Yeah CV, don’t hold your breath.

  29. Charlieboy 29

    Tim Murphy sounded very dodgy on Mondays morning report. Saw no difference between statement and affidavit,was sneaky on the drip feed and hasn’t fact checked the claims.Enormous Crocodile doing dirty tricks,he will be sizzled.

  30. Is it just me or is the whole basis of this “labour is bad” reporting based on the fact that Liu is a bad person? Yet there is no issues with the actual donations to National… double standards much?

    • Anne 30.1

      Talking of a Labour is bad smear campaign…

      Anyone else see the Good/Bad banner in yesterday’s HOS? (It usually appears mid way through on the top right side. Under Good is a photo of someone who has ‘done’ Good and ditto for Bad.) This week Prince George was awarded the “Good” title. No prizes for guessing whose photo appeared alongside for the “Bad” title. Couldn’t have produced a more stark contrast could they… the cherubic little prince and the nasty, nasty politician called David Cunliffe.

      I actually found that piece of slimy, subliminal messaging far more offensive than the written stuff. I’m rapidly coming to the view that the Labour Party can’t roll over this time. They must investigate and then start legal proceedings against the HOS at the very least.

  31. Herald on Sunday should be forced to apologise for yesterday’s front page. Large photo of Cunliffe beside headline allegations. its defamatory and they know it. For too long they have been getting away with low behaviour.

  32. Jrobin 32

    Does the Editor of the Herald often come on RNZ as an apologist for dodgy smear campaigns. I can’t remember a precedent. Key also bumbling and bluffing. Suzies Is that all? regarding the supposed, more to come, says it all. It would be useful to unearth links between The Herald and Whaleoil at this point, as said blogger is already involved in a similar case about to re surface today. Lie down with dogs Tim Murphy and you’re bound to get up scratching and reaching for the Dettol……

  33. Tom Gould 33

    The silver lining in all of this is that the National Herald’s long-running campaign to re-elect their Tory government and undermine Labour, in cahoots with elements of the National Party right up to the 9th floor, is gradually being exposed. More to come. Tim Murphy could well be looking for a new job once this is over.

  34. Karen 34

    There were two things Tim Murphy said that were of particular interest to me.

    1. He claimed a statement is the equivalent of an affidavit which, as I’m sure he knows, it certainly is not.
    2. The Herald got this letter on Saturday but it was written at the beginning of May, and Liu was not the person who supplied the letter.

    My guess is that the letter was supplied by someone in the National Party and that this is obvious from the contents or perhaps the witness, and this is why they have refused to let the Labour Party see the letter. I think this may end up biting the Nats in the bum (or at least I hope it does).

  35. Jrobin 35

    Murphy didn’t actually claim there was no difference to be fair. I think he was trying to backtrack on other flow on reports that wrongly cited the letter as an affidavit. This appearance on RNZ probably an attempt to cover The Herald legally as they are getting into the mire with this. Instead he further confused and conflated the two, signed letter and affidavit. There is of course a big difference. One is unsubstantiated gossip and a translation at that. The other is a document witnessed by a lawyer. Murphy must know this, further incompetence.

  36. freedom 36

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11279513

    “The statement from Liu said the $100,000 bottle was purchased at a fundraiser on “3-6-2007″. A Labour press statement said no fundraiser was held on June 3, 2007, but the date could be read as March 6, 2007.”

    Surely the Herald could have easily clarified if there was an event in March? It is not like contact with Labour people is thin on the ground. Labour seem to be doing everything possible to clarify the facts. The Herald seem to be searching for their dictionary to understand the word.

    And Key’s comments on RNZ ‘I’m not sure of the figures involved’ seem a bit odd for a guy who just last week said he knew of “hundreds of thousands of dollars” Liu claims to have donated to Labour.

  37. Lanthanide 37

    Wouldn’t it be funny, if after extensive analysis, the ‘donation’ turned out to be for National after all, and not Labour?

    • fender 37.1

      That would be funny, but it’s looking more like a zero truth smear invented by a desperate soon to be departing PM.

      And Liu doesn’t look too comfortable with the cameras on him, looks like a worried meth head..

  38. George 38

    Maybe he meant the Greens? After all, the Greens have a conference every Queens Birthday weekend.

    What do the Greens have to hide??? Russel and Metiria have questions to answer.

    *Note to NZ Herald – I’m only joking, and you can’t use this as a reliable source.

    • Kiwiri 38.1

      Read your asterisked note.
      I did wonder for a second if you were wanting to extend the smear to drag the Greens into this Liu-Key shit.

  39. fisiani 39

    The readers of this site are into detail. Sometimes minute detail. The public simply hear “Labour tricky, Labour cheating. Labour useless.”
    The only Labour policy messages that have got through is that they will raise the pension age and steal 9% of your wage by compulsion.

    • fender 39.1

      Don’t worry fistiani, the public will take notice when it’s revealed National made the whole thing up.

    • Kapplan 39.2

      You tend to take a very very short view approach to everything Fisiani. You openly acknowledge that National are winning the ‘perception’ battle and as far as you are concerned that is enough.
      What about morals, ethics, and having some semblance of a conscience?
      National wining over the constituency on spin and perception alone is the equivalent of living on a bad diet, it’s fun and tasty, but eventually your body is going to find out you are shafting it and punish you badly.
      A smart National supporter would rather they did not to play the dirty smear campaigns and win on merit alone, thereby ensuring some longevity. The same could have been said of the other side back in 2007 when ‘take down key’ seemed to be the only trick.

    • NickS 39.3

      Oh fisiani: http://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-21062014/#comment-835915

      Or is too hard to admit that you are actually profoundly ignorant?

  40. dv 40

    Just a thought
    May be the amount was 100,000 Yuan
    That s about 20k in nz

    As Liu doesn’t speak english, may be there is a translation gap.

  41. Fi 41

    The Hawke’s Bay Charity Wine Auction in 2007 was held on Queens Birthday weekend. Maybe Mr Liu bought a bottle of wine there!.

    • Lanthanide 41.1

      Sounds like a lead the Herald should be following up on. Preferably before they published.

      Done some googling, unfortunately the oldest snapshot of the website is from 2009: http://web.archive.org/web/20100513205856/http://charitywineauction.co.nz/catalogue.html

      • Lanthanide 41.1.1

        Found this, from 2007 stating the date of the auction: http://tizwine.com/index.php/ps_pagename/newsdetail/pi_newsitemid/478

        Found this follow up press release:
        http://www.tizwine.com/index.php/ps_pagename/newsdetail?pi_newsitemid=548

        That would seem to rule it out being officially part of this auction, as the highest price item they sold was a painting for $20k.

        The prices there though suggest that $100k for a single bottle of wine is extreme, since they had barrels going for ~$9k.

        • NZ Femme 41.1.1.1

          It’s still worth investigating Fi’s info I think. Since there’s no evidence except Liu’s wildly changing story about the amounts he paid ($15,000 – $100,000) it’s possible the wine was far less than he’s alleged.

          Jared Savage just replied to a tweet from Saarbo, saying that the Barker photo is time stamped 3/6/2007.

          https://twitter.com/jaredsavageNZH/status/480824293597532160

          So we know when the photo was taken. The Hawkes Bay Wine Auction 3/6/2007 was held at the Hawkes Bay Opera House.

          If the Barker photo was taken at that venue, the background of the photo may show enough detail to verify. Or maybe someone could ask Barker himself? It’s not at all implausible that he would hand out wine at a charity event – he was the MP for Hastings at the time.

          • Blue 41.1.1.1.1

            Time stamps are only reliable if the date in the camera is set correctly.

            Savage’s original article on the photo describes the setting as ‘an Auckland restaurant’.

            http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=11276071

            • freedom 41.1.1.1.1.1

              “The Herald has obtained a photograph of Rick Barker with Juan Zhang, who has two children with Liu, after he won an auction for the bottle at an Auckland restaurant in June 2007.”

              there is certainly no mention of Hawkes Bay in that article

              Is the story going to change to ‘he won the wine in Hawkes Bay but was presented it in Auckland at a later date’?

              Savage has a bit of a mess on his hands here.

          • jaymam 41.1.1.1.2

            The metadata of the photo in the Herald says “Donghua Liu’s partner Juan Zhang and former Labour Cabinet Minister Rick Barker with a bottle of wine at an auction fundraiser for the Labour Party.
            03 June 2007. (man on Left is unknown says Jarrod) and Mr Liu had just purchased a bottle of wine signed by Labour leader and PM Helen Clark as a fundraiser for the political party”

            Can we please please stop being confusing by showing dates as 3/6/2007 so we don’t know what date it really is?

            • lprent 41.1.1.1.2.1

              Nice. Problem is that we don’t know who put that metadata in. It could have been the NZ Herald when they put it up on their site.

              Of course they’d have to explain how they got that date when they had that photo up earlier than they have said that they got the statement from Liu with the date after they’d put the photo up.

              I’m sure that there is a logical explanation forthcoming from the Herald…

              Personally, I’m getting the impression that Liu wasn’t at a Labour party fundraiser, but maybe he thought he was….

              It keeps getting better and better. Plus more and more confused.

              It looks more and more to me like the Herald should have done a bit more checking of the materials that their sources in the National party gave them.
              :twisted:

            • NZ Femme 41.1.1.1.2.2

              “Can we please please stop being confusing by showing dates as 3/6/2007 so we don’t know what date it really is?”

              Sure. Sorry if that added to the already large pile of confusion. Wrote it out as Savage did on twitter – he’s said this evening that his version of the un-cropped pic shows a date stamp. I’ve asked (nicely) if he’d mind posting his uncropped version. It would show more detail and might be easier to identify the surroundings. He hasn’t responded yet.

              • jaymam

                Sorry, I actually deleted my moan about the date but the edit didn’t work.
                However, the Hawkes Bay Auction was on “3rd June 2007 at Assembly Room, HB Opera House”.
                The metadata on the Herald photo states “03 June 2007″. So we can stop worrying about 6 March 2007 as a possible date.

                • NZ Femme

                  How do you do the meta data trick? Could a slightly technically-challenged person (ok…me :) ) untangle it?

                  • jaymam

                    Many image viewers will show Metadata. Just right click on the image and select Properties.
                    I have an “Image Viewer” on Linux. Looking at the image properties it shows me lots of details, e.g. that DateTimeDigitized was 16 June 2014. I suspect that someone at the NZ Herald just typed in some wrong crap.

                    • freedom

                      just above you said “The metadata on the Herald photo states “03 June 2007″. So we can stop worrying about 6 March 2007 as a possible date.”

                      where did you source that metadata, off which image?
                      Can you post the image you used please?

                • freedom

                  I am a bit confused by that because the only timestamp data I got off the Herald image is from the basic image info in FF: Wed 18 Jun 2014 00:11:48 NZST

                  Gimp is generally as good as Photoshop for metadata but nothing is showing on any of the various sizes of the image that I can source online. All I get from the image is the generic sample sizes, image details and resolution, pixel count colour profile and format info etc. None of the camera publication date info is showing up. None of the online metadata services (that i have used in the past) can find any datestamp metadata on the image either.

                  I am no expert so would appreciate knowing what method and what software you used to extract the metadata?

                  • jaymam

                    There’s no Reply option on your above message.
                    Here is the Herald image complete with metadata:
                    http://i57.tinypic.com/106wtn8.jpg

                    Here is one page of the metadata:
                    http://i62.tinypic.com/25ip2yx.png

                    • lprent

                      Been added by the software by the NZH(erald)

                    • jaymam

                      The metadata was added by an image editor.
                      The original file name was AG_160614SPLLIU1.jpg
                      AG is probably a Leica camera.
                      I’m off to work now, but later I will check other Herald pictures to see who uses that camera.

                    • freedom

                      Thanks jaymam,

                      Where did you source the image from before you posted it to tinypic?
                      It is not the same image posted in any of the NZ Herald articles that I could find.

                      The image you have posted links to is not of a size that was available when searching for versions of the image last night and is certainly not the image used in the NZ Herald publications.

                    • wtl

                      “AG_160614SPLLIU1.jpg” is probably not the original filename – 160614 is probably the date is was supplied to the Herald. Judging from the quality of the photo, I’d say it was taken with a mobile phone (or the Herald image is a crop of a small part of the original).

                    • freedom

                      I am not an image expert so I have had two professionals look at the image posted just today by jaymam.

                      One of the professionals is in commercial advertising specializing in computer generated imagery both in 2D and 3D fields but with over two decades of experience in print media, including a lot of newspaper publications.

                      The other services professional photography studios including image retrieval and restoration.

                      Both professionals who looked at the meta data agree
                      ” All camera date info has been taken out. This is not the original image data.”

                      It is important to note that this in itself highlights nothing but the absence of the original camera data, and this may have been lost when first uploaded to the net, but this is not a common occurrence

                      Here is the tinypic image that was posted by jaymam.

                      http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=106wtn8&s=8

                      Here are the screenshots from the metadata retrieval done on that image.

                      1: http://i.imgur.com/60WFyw1.png?1
                      2: http://i.imgur.com/kuQxk2l.png?1
                      3: http://i.imgur.com/zfyFakr.png?1

                      Here is a pdf link (good for about ten days) which contains the retrieved data of the images that were available before jaymam posted the tinypic image.

                      https://www.keepandshare.com/doc10/5787/big-liu-bus-pdf-1-9-meg?da=y

                      Note that there was no detailed metadata in any of those images.
                      The only image to have metadata present is the image jaymam posted on 24-06-2014 and for which at this time we have no identification as to source.

                    • mickysavage

                      Thanks Freedom. Very interesting. I wondered if the photo was actually a scan of a physical print? The photo looks a bit like a scan to me.

                    • jaymam

                      OK, I accept that AG_160614 is very likely to be the date. I was rather hoping that it was the original file name generated by a camera, in which case I could spend a few days checking lots of Herald photos looking for similar file names, then I might be able to get the real camera EXIF data and hence the camera serial number (which surely you are all aware exists in every picture you take) and then guess who was the photographer. I now don’t think that will be productive.
                      I accept that the picture is probably from a mobile phone, and the cropped figure on the left is unknown (says “Jarrod”). “David” at the Herald possibly did the cropping.
                      The picture with the metadata is from the Herald server, trust me. Do you really wish me to explain in public how to look at servers?

                      I suggest someone should ask Rick Barker where the photo was taken. And someone in the Hawke’s Bay could have a look in the Opera House to see if the picture was taken there.
                      And if anyone recognises the background as being in an Auckland location, let’s hear about that too.
                      The location of this picture could determine whether National wins the election or not. So what the heck are you all doing that is more important?

                    • freedom

                      jaymam, thank you for letting us know where the image was sourced from.

                      I want to be clear I was not having a go at you but as you delivered the image your posts had to be referenced. This is about the image and its history.

                    • NZ Femme

                      Jared has now posted his uncropped version of the pic with date stamp showing. Go do your stuff Jaymam. :) (there is of course a please in that!)

                      https://twitter.com/jaredsavageNZH/status/481304165637832704/photo/1

                    • jaymam

                      I am happy to explain to selected technical type lefties how to get photos with metadata.
                      Hotmail has died on me so I have a new email address.

                    • jaymam

                      NZ Femme, Jared’s picture doesn’t have any metadata. However what happened to the top of the picture? It’s been cropped. Many photo editors delete the metadata when saving a picture. Can we get the uncropped original picture? Even if we can get more of the background, or the guy on the left, that would help. Or someone ask Rick Barker! Does anyone know him?

                    • NZ Femme

                      Hmm. I will ask him. (although I suspect he might be getting tired of my stream of tweets and questions) Have asked him earlier this evening if he had the time frame for Liu’s visit to the Hawkes Bay Rowing Club and subsequent donation to them, but he didn’t have the info on hand. I was wondering if it was the same timeframe as the Charity Wine Auction.

                      Also suggested (for the 3rd or 4th time – heh) that he check out the Charity Auction lead.

                      Am hoping that Barker has been updated and has some kind of record if he was a host/special guest at the auction.

                    • freedom

                      For those who may be interested, here is a quick composite of the available images that have been cropped, put against a background plate that is a 6″x4″ print size. This is amongst the most common domestic photo print size and seemed a reasonable choice. The actual size is less relevant than the scaling + composition.

                      I scaled the composite image to what I believe is a reasonable framing of the scene.

                      http://i.imgur.com/uyoNt4Z.png
                      http://i.imgur.com/653ygot.png

                      I have included both portrait and landscape formats. As you can see only the landscape format makes any sense, Barker is a tall man but I doubt the person took a portrait format shot.

                      The landscape format shows ample space for the ‘unknown person on the left’. Maybe the identity of the person is unknown, but the person has clearly been cropped out for whatever reason.

                    • Kiwiri

                      freedom:
                      i am now wondering whether i am going mad.
                      i thought the picture of the three of them is available to all.
                      i distinctly remember seeing the picture of the guy. he was also a tall chap, around barker’s height.
                      i can’t find it online now. i am quite sure i was not dreaming.
                      is there a way of retrieving webpages that i have viewed on my hard drive.
                      with instructions, i can trawl through firefox and elsewhere on my computer.

                    • freedom

                      Kiwiri, I do not recall seeing that image, but that’s ok, there are several billion images out there on the web and even without that fact, we are all going a bit mad these days.

                      From looking at the known proportional aspects of the left arm of the unknown person, I would suggest that the person in question is not more than two to three inches taller than Liu’s partner. They appear to be standing about a meter behind the pair and about the same distance away to the right of them.

                      There are not a lot of images of Liu that are not head shots but in the image below you can see he is a slim person, a bit shorter than John Key, who is not the tallest guy in the world. It is not unreasonable therefore to suggest that the unknown person in the image, when the context of the scene is considered, is Liu himself.

                      http://www.odt.co.nz/files/imagecache/200x200_scaled_cropped/story/2014/03/donghua_liu_with_pm_john_key_at_the_opening_of_the_5320b2ade9.jpg

                    • Kiwiri

                      Cheers. I should have said that from memory, the guy was definitely not Liu and was not Asian (East, South, or South East). The guy was European. I may be able to reidentify him even though I cannot now describe him from memory. Perhaps a session of hypnotism might be useful. But I can’t sketch very well to reproduce the pic of him! Looks like the photo has been replaced? I remember seeing the picture of the three of them online when the story broke. I would be happy to file and swear an affidavit!

                    • freedom

                      it’s early days, but one day …. :)
                      http://web-japan.org/trends/08_sci-tech/sci090319.html

                      and yup, like so much of what humans create,
                      it will be up to us if it is a tool or a weapon

                    • William

                      Here’s the Opera House promo webpage, which includes some photos

                      http://hawkesbayoperahouse.co.nz/venue-hire/event-type/other-events/

                      Above the thumbnails there’s a link to download a venue brochure with more pics. That brochure has a link under “related publications” to a wedding brochure with still more.

                      The main auditorium has similar colouration as the Barker photo, but that may be due to tungsten lighting in both locations. Barker seems to be standing in front of a timber column, which is a feature that doesn’t occur in the various venues shown.

                  • jaymam

                    Tomorrow I will endeavour to get a photo of where I think the background of the wine picture is.
                    I have offered to tell people how to get photos complete with metadata, but have had no response so far.
                    i.e. I expect to get an email. I have done all that is required to get that email.

                  • NZ Femme

                    The Hawkes Bay Opera House underwent extensive renovations between 2004-2007. The current interior may differ from that of the picture somewhat.

        • Pete 41.1.1.2

          In general terms for fundraising wine auctions, here’s something of an indicator of what the returns are likely to be:

          Fundraiser started with wine. Waikato Times, 26 June 2008, p.5

          A fundraising launch for Putaruru’s Rangiuru Rest Home and Retirement Village raised almost $6000 on Friday. The wine auction used bottles signed by actor Temuera Morrison, All Black Brendan Leonard and Prime Minister Helen Clark, among other well-known personalities. The target is $1 million for 20 resthome beds.

          No published headline. The Dominion Post, 31 May 2005, p.4

          Some politicians don’t learn from their mistakes. Despite third-degree burns from a previous charity auction experience, Prime Minister Helen Clark is still not shy of putting her mark on things she didn’t create. Apparently using skills learned from former speaker Jonathan Hunt’s wine auctions, Clark took the floor at Labour Kaikoura candidate Brendon Burns’ campaign launch last week, pictured, hocking off the bottle of Political Savvy bearing her name for the princely sum of $80. We can only assume from the name that Labour now covers sauvignon blanc socialists as well as those of the chardonnay variety. Wisely, they’re still avoiding anything too red, either in policy or wine.

          If signed $80 bottles of wine from fundraising events were turning up in the media in the mid-2000s, it’s extremely doubtful a $100k bottle would not be reported on at the time.

          And of course, all the auction attendees would have to be sworn to secrecy over such a ridiculous bid. This is entering the realms of conspiracy theories. The auction also sold the magic bullet from the JFK assassination, Stanley Kubrick’s script for the moon landing and the Loch Ness Monster.

          • wtl 41.1.1.2.1

            Considering that US$28k bottles of wine are on the UK Telegraph’s list of “10 of the world’s most expensive bottles of wine”, I think we can safely say that a bottle of wine being sold for $100k at an auction would make NZ, if not international, headlines.

            • NZJester 41.1.1.2.1.1

              According to an article on Scoop dated Monday, 19 November 2007, 4:52 pm titled “The Most Expensive Bottle of Wine Purchased in NZ”
              And I quote here the first paragraph;
              “Fine Wine Delivery Company Managing Director and major shareholder Jeff Poole recently paid New Zealand’s highest price for a single bottle of wine parting with over NZ$18,000 for the first ever release of a 6 litre Imperial of the stunning single vineyard Penfolds 2004 Block 42 Cabernet Sauvignon.”
              Source http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/CU0711/S00249.htm
              The above price paid and mentioned in this press release by Fine Wine Online would not have been such a big deal if someone had actually paid NZ$100,000 for a bottle of wine at an auction a few months before this was published!
              If the NZ$18,000 price paid by Jeff Poole was worthy of a story, I’m sure that if NZ$100,000 had been spent on a bottle of wine there would still be some trace of an article about it somewhere that was published in 2007!

    • NZ Femme 41.2

      Haha Fi, that would be hilarious. :)

  42. Jrobin 42

    If that were true Fisiani then the National Party would not be stealing Labours policies when their internal polling indicates support. Cunning they are, intelligent with an eye for detail, they are not. Eg PM doesn’t bother to read police report on Banks. Bridges doesn’t notice he has signed away a National Park. Bennett fails to collect statistics on child poverty so as to pretend it doesn’t exist. Smith refuses to collect stats on foreign buyers in Housing Market. These omissions are not accidental, they re part of the propaganda machine that oversimplifies everything. I am pleased you have admitted this is occurring. Do you have an ethical position though Fisiani, or is this your idea of democracy? I am a little shocked that the Herald are involved though, as they do have a reputation to uphold. They also have some excellent journalists. Thanks for the compliment on attention to detail.

  43. Lorraine 43

    This corrupt chinese businessman can not be trusted in any way. I believe he is trying to influence the course of NZ politic and the silent assassin is using him to do so all the way.
    It’s not ok for John Key to say he heard….such and such. This implication is either founded or unfounded. Put up or shut up KEY. You are the ultimate in dirty tricks it seems.
    What happened over 10 years ago doesn’t matter now. It has been your government MPs recent escapades with this arch manipulator with Williamson and other chinese manipulators with Collins that we have concerns about. Your government puppets are recent KEY. Labours is in the past.
    What a huge distraction form the important issues you sly arch manipulator yourself John Key.

  44. Sable 44

    So much for doing due diligence. I wonder if anyone has any faith in the mcmedia anymore?

  45. Jan 45

    I heard the editor of the Herald on RadioLive this morning saying that a statement was as good as if not better than an affidavit, I do hope he did not mean that in a legal sense..

    • One Anonymous Bloke 45.1

      He meant it in a “constructing political smears for your owner” sense.

      • Kiwiri 45.1.1

        He flushed his credibility down the toilet by saying that.

        • One Anonymous Bloke 45.1.1.1

          The target audience won’t see it that way.

          • Kiwiri 45.1.1.1.1

            Not yet. But first ensure progressive audience see, hear and think clearly.
            There is hope. NZ can prevent the slide into the neo-Dark Age.

  46. Ant 46

    On Nine to Noon, mhoots didn’t even seem that convinced, that really tells you something…

    :p

  47. Jrobin 47

    Yes agree Ant, Hooten had obviously been briefed Don’t throw stones they’ll come back at us, it’s all smoke and mirrors.
    Oh I wonder how the Whaleoil court case going anyone heard?

  48. Crunchtime 48

    Labour should be taking the Herald to court over this.

    SHOULD.

    No ifs, ands or buts. Libel, slander, making damning accusations without evidence against people or parties is against the law.

    • Tom Jackson 48.1

      Why would it matter, when the most you will get is a slap on the wrist in exchange for winning an election?

      I’m guessing that if this does turn out badly for the Herald, the only places a few people will read about it will be blogs. As far as Joe Public is concerned the issue will still be David Cunliffe’s “tricks”.

      The Nats (specifically the Joyce faction) have most of the media on their side.

  49. ianmac 49

    Keep in mind that the numbers of actual people who vote for National in polls have stayed close to the same for years.
    Get the undecided excited. Get out and vote.

  50. freedom 50

    translation: I am happy to light the touchpaper but won’t tell you who gave me a box of matches
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/video.cfm?c_id=1&gal_cid=1&gallery_id=143750

    • Kiwiri 50.1

      For a twat who was quick to say “show me blah”,
      the same idiot is now spouting “i am not going to talk about my sources”.

      And the media didn’t have a follow up question to that!

      I didn’t want to visit that NZH webpage initially but it was revealing to see that bullshitter in action.

  51. Lorraine 51

    Where is Donghua Liu’s proof? Never happened! Why aren’t the media demanding to see his proof and John Key’s source. Donghua Liu is full of lies. It is a serious thing in this country to make up such lies and did he not expect for them to check for proof? No records of anything. John Key’s beat up of Labour.

    • fender 51.1

      RNZ asked Key to reveal his source but he said he didn’t need to, and he suggested RNZ should reveal all their sources. No one is surprised how difficult it is to get any answers or proof from this surly kid who’s addicted to playing games. If/when Key gets found out he’ll just continue the game by claiming there was a translation mix up or something.

      I just look forward to HIM getting the PROOF when votes are counted on Sept. 20

  52. anon 52

    There’s a picture on the Herald of Rick Barker handing the bottle to Liu’s wife in a restaurant with heavy wood panelling. Does nobody from Labour recognise the event? Rick did hand the bottle over. So how much did he pay. Why can’t Labour just give a straight answer?

    • One Anonymous Bloke 52.1

      The law around warrants of fitness is due to change next month. Why doesn’t your car comply with them?

      You have broken the laws that haven’t been passed yet, but it’s your benchmark for others. Personal responsibility means applying double standards, eh.

      • anon 52.1.1

        What?! That barely makes sense A.Bloke. There is photographic evidence. Just wondering why we can’t be straight up and honest about this. But the shonky way labour is circling this issue makes me (and everyone else in NZ) smell a rat. If they have nothing to hide then say so. It would be the best thing for the party. Give the full truth. What’s going on in the picture? And what happened at the auction. As it stand it looks like there is more dirt to come.

        • Colonial Viper 52.1.1.1

          If you have a charge to make, present your evidence and make it. So far its just noise and time wasting.

          • anon 52.1.1.1.1

            I have no charge to make. Someone has a picture of Liu buying a bottle of wine at a labour auction from Rick Barker. He says he’s paid 100k. Balls in Rick Barkers court. I’m not required to bring legal proof. I was a labour voter. And would expect if you want my vote again that labour would be bending over backwards to show that they are straight, fair and transparent. The onus is not on me to prove wrong doing. I don’t care. It just looks dodgy. Labour are not fronting up and acting suspicious.. Makes me wonder what they’ll be like in a leadership position. The onus is on labour. If you are in leadership position with public money the onus is on you to not just be legal but to be transparent and up front to show that the money is being used as it should. If Labour don’t feel that way – then yeah – i’ll be forced to switch my vote.

            [lprent: A concern troll. How surprising. Please take care to review prior comments before passing judgement on this dipshit. Hardly looks like a Labour supporter. Unlike the Donhua Liu allegations, we know exactly when and where you made these comments.

            You make no charge, you just insinuate. But hey, I don't require the slow process of the law. I just exert judgement.

            If you make allegations against others, then guess what. You are required to make your charges clear, and be prepared to prove your case. It doesn't matter if you are the police, donghua liu, a sociopath like (sources protected) Cameron Slater, a serial liar like John Key, or you.

            So far you look like the stupidest. Certainly the most incompetent (and that is low standard to beat). And we all know what happens to the weakest link. bye.

            Stupid fuckwit banned until after the election.

            I'd suggest that anyone else using the same tactics and not wanting to follow him should take note. You know who you are. ]

        • One Anonymous Bloke 52.1.1.2

          Anon, at most, there is photographic evidence that a bottle of wine was auctioned. According to the rules at the time, Labour were no more obliged to keep records of this than National were of John Key’s $50,000 tie.

          So your demand for a paper trail is either born of ignorance or bad faith.

          Which is it? Are you ill-informed or dishonest?

    • lprent 52.2

      7 years ago? For a guy who spent his life at events and who handed over many bottles of wine. So far we have that it was on the 3rd of June 2007. Labour has already established that there were no Labour fundraisers that day.

      I suspect that you are just a fool.

  53. Jrobin 53

    Photographic evidence?! No wonder John Key is able to get away with fluff and flattery. Anon you need to enter the digital age. Photographic evidence …..but of what. Images are the most easily manipulated information, depending on the caption you accompany them with. Please someone from Hawkes Bay post a photo of the interior of the venue the Hospice wine auction took place in. The wood lining in the photo was rather distinctive. The dates line up and the rowing donation was in Hawkes Bay.

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    Parents will know the pester power unleashed by offering collectables such as toys (or in the case of Countdown, cards). This tactic has long been used by fast food companies to lure in kids. Now it is being used as...
    Gareth’s World | 28-08
  • Stop spinning the debate
    Take the people saying  ‘all David Cunliffe has to do is draw’. Unfortunately, last year David Cunliffe’s supporters in the leadership contest argued he should lead the  party because of his superior debating skills....
    Pundit | 28-08
  • Mayor’s Long Term Plan proposal released
    This morning the mayor released his proposal for the Long Term Plan, which outlines the 10 year budget for the city. This is the first stage in a 9 month process. Long-term Plan timeline August 2014 – Mayor’s LTP proposal...
    Transport Blog | 28-08
  • New Fisk
    Israel-Gaza conflict: No victory for Israel despite weeks of devastation...
    No Right Turn | 27-08
  • Labour to foster Kiwi love of sport and the great outdoors
    A Labour Government will promote physical activity, back our top athletes and help foster Kiwis’ love of the great outdoors by upgrading tramping and camping facilities. Trevor Mallard today released Labour’s sports and recreation policy which will bring back a...
    Labour | 29-08
  • Pacific languages recognised under Labour
    Labour will act to recognise the five main Pacific languages in New Zealand including through the education system, said Pacific Affairs spokesperson Su’a William Sio. Announcing Labour’s Pacific Island policy he said that there must be a strong commitment to...
    Labour | 29-08
  • No healthy economy without a healthy environment
    Labour recognises that we cannot have a healthy economy without a healthy environment, says Environment spokesperson Moana Mackey announcing Labour’s environment policy. “New Zealand’s economy has been built on the back of the enormous environmental wealth we collectively enjoy as...
    Labour | 28-08
  • Better protection, fairer deal for Kiwi consumers
    Tackling excessive prices, ensuring consumers have enough information to make ethical choices and giving the Commerce Commission more teeth are highlights of Labour’s Consumer Rights policy. “The rising cost of living is a concern for thousands of Kiwi families. A...
    Labour | 28-08
  • Media Advisory – MANA Movement Candidate for Waiariki Annette Sykes, Waia...
    Media are advised that this coming weekend, the MANA Movement Candidate for Waiariki, Annette Sykes, will be on the Internet MANA Road Trip within the electorate of Waiariki. Speakers confirmed are Annette Sykes, Hone Harawira, John Minto, Laila Harre and Kim...
    Mana | 27-08
  • Internet MANA – Waiariki Road Trip: 29, 30, 31 Aug 2014
    The Internet MANA Road Trip hits Waiariki this weekend. It would be great if all MANA members in Waiariki could especially attend the public meetings and show their support for our Waiariki candidate Annette Sykes. Confirmed speakers Hone Harawira (except Taupo), Annette...
    Mana | 27-08
  • First home buyers $200 a week better off with Labour
    A couple earning around $75,000 a year would be $200 a week better off buying a two bedroom terraced Labour KiwiBuild home instead of an equivalent new build under National’s housing policy, says Labour Leader David Cunliffe.  “National’s policy to...
    Labour | 26-08
  • Another Day – Another big power profit
    The latest profit announcement from Genesis Energy shows that the power company was sold for a song to the detriment of the country’s power consumers, says Labour’s Energy spokesperson David Shearer. “A net profit of $ 49.2 million follows hard...
    Labour | 26-08
  • Labour embraces the rainbow
    Labour will work hard to ensure all New Zealanders enjoy the freedom to grow up and live their lives in dignity and security. Labour’s Rainbow policy, released tonight in Wellington, focuses on International Relations, Human Rights and Education....
    Labour | 26-08
  • National gets fast and loose with the facts
    In their desperation to make it look as though they are doing something about the housing crisis, National is playing fast and loose with the facts, says Labour’s housing spokesperson Phil Twyford....
    Labour | 26-08
  • Labour will drop power prices for Kiwi families
    New Zealanders will get cheaper power prices under NZ Power, says Labour Leader David Cunliffe. “The electricity market is clearly broken. With falling demand for electricity, prices should be going down. Instead prices are going up and companies are extracting...
    Labour | 26-08
  • Labour: Promoting sustainable tourism
    Ensuring New Zealand’s clean, green status continues to be an international tourism benchmark and reviewing MBIE’s oversight of the tourism sector will be on the radar under a Labour Government. Releasing Labour’s Tourism policy today, spokesperson Darien Fenton said tourism...
    Labour | 26-08
  • Skills shortage a result of National’s complacency
    The fact that there is still a severe shortage of skilled tradespeople, despite a growth in the number of apprentices, is a result of National’s failure to plan and develop the workforce, Grant Robertson, Labour Employment, Skills and TrainingSpokesperson says."The...
    Labour | 26-08
  • How much tax does John Key pay compared to a minimum wage worker?? – Mint...
    MANA Movement Economic Justice spokesperson John Minto is calling for a radical overhaul of New Zealand’s taxation system with calculations showing that a minimum wage worker pays a ten times higher tax rate than the Prime Minister. o Minimum wage...
    Mana | 25-08
  • Labour’s culture of science and innovation
    Labour will create a culture of science and innovation in New Zealand that will be the envy of the world, says Labour’s Innovation, Research and Development spokesperson Megan Woods. “Labour believes that good science lies at the heart of a...
    Labour | 25-08
  • Improving life for our new New Zealanders
    New Zealand’s international standing as a community that encourages and fosters all cultures will be bolstered under a Labour Government with an upgrade of the present Office of Ethnic Affairs to a Ministry. Releasing Labour’s Ethnic Affairs policy, spokesperson Phil...
    Labour | 25-08
  • South Auckland housing crisis
    National’s HomeStart package is nothing more than a political stunt designed to beguile South Auckland voters, said Labour’s Pacific Affairs spokesperson Su’a William Sio. “Few working Pasifika and Maori workers in South Auckland will be able to buy their own...
    Labour | 25-08
  • Home buyer subsidy discredited in Oz
    Treasury advised against National’s policy of ramping up home buyer subsidies after it was discredited in Australia because it pushed house prices even higher, Labour’s Housing spokesperson Phil Twyford says. “Documents released under the OIA (attached) show Treasury advised the...
    Labour | 25-08
  • Nursing hours explain turnover and high-stress culture
    A staff survey supports concerns nursing staff at Dunedin Hospital are under increasing pressure and that the emergency department is in a critical state, says Labour’s Associate Health Spokesperson David Clark.  “An ED nursing survey at Dunedin found that 80...
    Labour | 24-08
  • Underhand tactics prove case for axing donations
    Revelations that schools are using underhand tactics to coerce donations from cash-strapped parents further highlights the need for Labour's plan to increase funding so they aren't dependent on contributions from parents, Labour's Education spokesperson Chris Hipkins says. “By law New...
    Labour | 24-08
  • National applies band-aid to housing crisis
    The Government’s flagship housing announcement is a band-aid approach that will push up prices rather than solve the housing crisis, says Labour Leader David Cunliffe. “House sales to first home buyers have collapsed as a direct result of the Government’s...
    Labour | 24-08
  • Climate change focus on the now for the future
    A Labour Governmentwill put in place a comprehensive climate change strategy focusing on bothmitigation and adaptation, establish an independent Climate Commission andimplement carbon budgeting, says Labour Climate Change spokesperson MoanaMackey."This is about future-proofing our economy. Making the transition to alow-carbon...
    Labour | 24-08
  • Labour’s 21st century transport pledge
    The next Labour-led Government will create a 21st century transport system for New Zealand that promotes the most efficient and sustainable combination of transport options, says Labour’s Transport spokesperson Phil Twyford. “Labour will rebalance the Government's transport spending away from...
    Labour | 23-08
  • Housing under National: the facts
    1.       House prices in Auckland Council valuations indicate Auckland house prices have gone up by one-third over the last three years. (Auckland Council) The average Auckland house price has gone up by nearly $225,000 since 2008, up over $75,000 in...
    Labour | 23-08
  • Labour irons out low income tax issue
    The increasing casualisation of work has led to many New Zealand families being disadvantaged through the tax they pay, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. "Many low paid workers are having to work two or three jobs to make ends meet...
    Labour | 22-08
  • Cornered Government comes out swinging
    The National Government is so desperate to keep its dead-in-the-water expert teachers policy alive, it has refused to rule out forcing schools to participate through legislation, Labour’s Education spokesperson Chris Hipkins says. “John Key today attacked the Educational Institute for...
    Labour | 22-08
  • Pacific people continue to go backwards under National
    A report from Victoria University highlights the fact that Pacific people are continuing to go backwards under a National Government, said Labour’s Pacific Affairs spokesperson Su’a William Sio.  “The report shows the largest inequality increases were in smoking, obesity, tertiary...
    Labour | 22-08
  • Wellington transport plan needs to keep moving
    The failure of the Transport Agency to properly look at alternatives to the Basin Reserve flyover is not a good reason for further delays to improving transport in Wellington, Labour MPs Grant Robertson and Annette King say. “The Board of...
    Labour | 22-08
  • Labour’s focus on inequality, kids and better job prospects
    Tackling child poverty and removing barriers to people working part time to enhance their prospects of moving into a fulltime job are highlights of Labour’s Social Development policy. Releasing the policy today, spokesperson Sue Moroney said while part-time work was...
    Labour | 21-08
  • Political staff should give answers under oath
    The Inspector General of Security and Intelligence should use her full statutory powers to question witnesses under oath about the leak of SIS information, says Labour MP Phil Goff. “Leakage of confidential information from the SIS for political purposes is...
    Labour | 21-08
  • High dollar, hands-off Govt sends workers to dole queue
    The loss of up to 100 jobs at Croxley stationery in Auckland is devastating news for their families and the local Avondale community, Labour’s Employment, Skills and Training spokesperson Grant Robertson says. “The company’s inability to compete in international markets...
    Labour | 21-08
  • National’s flagship education policy dead in the water
    National’s plan to create executive principals and expert teachers is effectively dead in the water with news that 93 percent of primary teachers have no confidence in the scheme, Labour’s Education spokesperson Chris Hipkins says. “The fact that teachers are...
    Labour | 21-08
  • Dunedin will be a knowledge and innovation centre under Labour
    Dunedin will become a knowledge and innovation centre under a Labour Government that will back local businesses, support technology initiatives and fund dynamic regional projects, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. “Nowhere has the National Government’s short-sightedness been more apparently than...
    Labour | 21-08
  • Inquiry into SIS disclosures the right decision
    Labour MP Phil Goff says the Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security has done the right thing by launching an inquiry into the disclosure of SIS documents about a meeting between himself and the agency’s former director-general. “This inquiry is necessary...
    Labour | 20-08
  • Labour – supporting and valuing carers and the cared for
    Placing real value on our elderly and the people who care for them will be a priority for a Labour Government, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. Releasing Labour’s Senior Citizens policy today David Cunliffe promised that a Labour Government would...
    Labour | 20-08
  • By Hoki! It’s Labour’s fisheries policy
    A Labour Government will protect the iconic Kiwi tradition of fishing by improving access to the coast, protecting the rights of recreational fishers and reviewing snapper restrictions, Labour’s Fisheries spokesperson Damien O’Connor says. “Catching a fish from the rocks, beach...
    Labour | 20-08
  • Mighty River – Mighty Profits – Mighty hard to swallow
    Mighty River Power’s profit increase of 84 per cent is simply outrageous, says Labour’s Energy spokesperson David Shearer. “Demand for electricity is flat or declining yet the company has made enormous profits. It is the latest power company to celebrate...
    Labour | 19-08
  • Collins’ actions were wrong, not unwise
    John Key’s moral compass remains off-kilter as he cannot bring himself to declare Judith Collins’ actions outright wrong, not simply ‘unwise’, said Labour MP Grant Robertson. “Under pressure John Key is finally shifting his stance but his failure to condemn...
    Labour | 19-08
  • Public servants behaving with more integrity than their masters
    The State Services Commission's new report on the integrity of our state services reflects the yawning gap between the behaviour of public servants and that of their political masters, Labour's State Services spokesperson Maryan Street says. “This report, which surveyed...
    Labour | 19-08
  • Phil Twyford Speech to NZCID
    "Labour's plan to build more and build better: how new approaches to housing, transport and urban development will deliver cities that work" Phil Twyford, Labour Party spokesperson on housing, transport, Auckland issues, and cities.  ...
    Labour | 19-08
  • Labour commits to independent Foreign Affairs and Trade
    “Labour is committed to New Zealand’s Foreign Affairs and Trade policy being independent and proactive, Labour’s Foreign Affairs spokesperson David Shearer says. “We are a small but respected country. Our voice and actions count in international affairs. Labour will take a...
    Labour | 19-08
  • Key must sack Collins over abhorrent actions
    The latest revelations that Judith Collins sent the contact details of a public servant to WhaleOil in a desperate attempt to divert media attention from a bad story is abhorrent, Labour MP Grant Robertson says. “John Key and Judith Collins...
    Labour | 19-08
  • It’s downhill from here under National
    The forecast drop in exports and predicted halving of growth shows that it’s downhill from here with National, Labour’s Finance spokesperson David Parker says. “Growth under this Government peaked in June and halves to two per cent in coming years....
    Labour | 19-08
  • John Key loses moral compass over Collins
    John Key has lost his moral compass over Judith Collins’ involvement with Cameron Slater and lost touch with New Zealanders’ sense of right and wrong, Labour MP Grant Robertson says. “Whoever is Prime Minister there are expectations they will not...
    Labour | 18-08
  • Mana Movement General Election 2014 List confirmed
    The MANA List is now confirmed with all the candidates as below (the numbers are the respective Internet MANA rankings). Candidate, Electorate, Internet MANA List Position Hone Harawira, Te Tai Tokerau (1) Annette Sykes, Waiariki (3) John Minto, Mt Roskill (4) Te Hamua Nikora, Ikaroa-Rawhiti...
    Mana | 18-08
  • PREFU likely to confirm dropping exports
    National’s economic management will be put under the spotlight in tomorrow’s PREFU given clear signs the so-called rock star economy has fallen off the stage, with plummeting prices for raw commodity exports, Labour’s Finance spokesperson David Parker says. “Under National,...
    Labour | 18-08
  • Record profits while Kiwis face a cold winter
    The record profits by two of New Zealand’s largest electricity companies will be a bitter pill for New Zealand households who are paying record amounts for their power, says Labour’s Energy spokesperson David Shearer. “No doubt the Key government will...
    Labour | 18-08
  • Time for John Key to answer yes or no questions
    John Key’s train-wreck interview on Morning Report shows he is no longer capable of a simple yes or no answer and has lost touch with what’s right and wrong, Labour MP Grant Robertson says. “John Key has become so media...
    Labour | 18-08
  • Key must clarify who signed out SIS OIA
    Yet again John Key is proving incapable of answering a simple question on an extremely important issue – this time who signed off Cameron Slater’s fast-tracked SIS OIA request on Phil Goff, said Labour MP Grant Robertson. “John Key’s claim...
    Labour | 18-08
  • Time to invest in our tertiary education system
    A Labour Government will fully review the student support system – including allowances, loans, accommodation support and scholarships – with a view to increasing access and making the system fair, transparent and sustainable, Labour’s Tertiary Education spokesperson Maryan Street says....
    Labour | 17-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Denis Tegg – When Did We Agree To Our Data Being Shared with ...
    New shocking evidence has emerged from Edward Snowden’s trove of documents about a program called ICREACH under which data collected by the GCSB is shared with 23 US spy agencies. Under new sharing agreements which appear to have commenced immediately after...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • Why Internet MANA are the best political friends the Greens could ever get
    Metiria at last nights #GreenRoomNZ: standing on the shoulders and camera cases of giants  NZers, regardless of political spectrum or apathy level, have a wonderful beach cricket egalitarianism about us. If we can objectively conclude a winner, then that person...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • Sick of the Sleaze? Protest against National’s dirty politics THIS SATURD...
    Sick of the Sleaze? Protest now dammit! Three weeks before the election, action is being taken across the country voicing a rejection of the National Government’s track record and direction. Rallies are being held in Auckland, Wellington, Christchurch and Dunedin...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Sir Edmund Thomas – Address at Nicky Hager public meeting
    I regard it as privilege to chair this public meeting. I have long had the greatest admiration for Nicky Hager’s work, and nothing I have read or heard in the media over the past week or so has caused me...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • Labour and New Zealand Superannuation
    The kerfuffle in the wake of Nicky Hager’s Dirty Politics has had a detrimental impact on our discussion of economic policies. Signs are that the main beneficiaries of the dirty politics revelations will be Winston Peters and Colin Craig; certainly National suffered...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • Coalition for Better Broadcasting – Mike Hosking and the Leader’s Debat...
    A few weeks ago I blogged that Mike Hosking was a terrible choice as moderator for the TV One Party Leader’s Debate, because he is so embarrassingly biased in favour of John Key. So I watched the show with curiosity,...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • Democracy and Cancer: A critical analysis of Dirty Politics
    Twenty years ago, England’s renowned television playwright Denis Potter died of pancreatic cancer.  Readers may recall his two masterpieces ‘Pennies from Heaven’ and ‘The Singing Detective’.  During a final television interview with Melvyn Bragg, Potter declared that he had named...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • Cunliffe beats Key in First Leaders debate
    I watched the First Leaders debate at the Green Party #GreenRoomNZ, they were very kind to include me and the atmosphere was great. The debate was a resounding victory to Cunliffe. He won Round 1, Round 2, Round 3 and...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • LIVE STREAM: The Green Room Leader’s Debate from 6:30pm
    The Green Room will be hosted by media commentator Russel Brown, and will feature Green Co-leaders Metiria Turei and Russel Norman responding to the debate live, along with comment from thought leaders and commentators. ‘The Green Room’ 6pm – 8.30pm...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • How many taxpayer funded staff does John Key need to prepare for a Leaders ...
    John Key is currently at the Auckland Stamford Plaza with 40 staff, 4 undercover police cars and an entire floor booked out in preparation for tonights Leader’s debate. Isn’t 40 staff including coms, flown up to Auckland for a debate...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • A brief word on National Party Rodney MP, Mark Mitchell
    MP considers legal action against Nicky HagerThe National MP says he is considering taking a defamation case after the September 20 election.“Someone needs to be held accountable,” he said. Oh really champ? Brothers and sisters, there is a long way...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • Greens advertise on Whaleoil – but not on The Daily Blog?
    PaknSave have shown ethical compass and blocked adverts on Whaleoil, yet the Greens are advertising on Whaleoil, and not The Daily Blog? I would imagine there are far more potential Green voters on The Daily Blog then ever are on...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • It’s about the stupid economy stupid
    In focus group meetings, the sleepy hobbits of NZ by a staggering amount all believe that National are better economic stewards of the country than Labour, that’s why, instead of answering questions about blackmailing MPs, trawling brothels for dirt on...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • Labour Policy vs National Policy
    John Key’s favourite defence spin at the moment is people want to talk about policy and not hear answers on the ethics of trawling brothels, why Slater was given SIS information, blackmailing MPs into standing down, rigging candidate elections and hacking...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • The Green Room live streamed on TDB 6.30pm tonight for First Leaders debate
    The ‘Green Room’ will stream 6.pm tonight on The Daily Blog during the TV One leaders’ debate.Use #GreenRoomNZ to join in. The Green Room will be hosted by media commentator Russel Brown, and will feature Green Co-leaders Metiria Turei and Russel Norman responding...
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • Manukau East – the next Coalition in action
    A couple of weeks ago I had the pleasure of opening Voice Up – a youth forum run by young people in Otara. I had been asked as Chair of the Local Board to set the scene, encouraging young people...
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Kelly Ellis – The Big Bang Theory
    It’s a shame that it took a brain injury for me to start seeing things with such startling clarity. The realisation that lawyering, fishing, parenting, selling cars and racing yachts had common themes was stunning. Not perhaps as stunning as...
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking rant on Radio Hauraki: Today, how much Key aro...
    Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking on Radio Hauraki...
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • 5AA Australia – New Zealand’s Dirty Politics Aftermath and Polls
    MIL OSI – Source: Selwyn Manning – Analysis Headline: 5AA Australia – New Zealand’s Dirty Politics Aftermath and Polls 5AA Australia: On this week’s Across the Ditch bulletin on 5AA Australia, host Peter Godfery and Selwyn Manning discuss the aftermath...
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • La’o Hamutuk calls for inquiry into Timor GAP ‘mismanagement’ of oil ...
    The Suai project on the South Coast … “liberated” land but confused communities.Photo: La’o Hamutuk David Robie also blogs at Café Pacific. AN INDEPENDENT Timor-Leste development and social justice agency has called for an inquiry into the Timor GAP corporation...
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • What Is Nicky Hager?
    WHAT WILL HISTORY MAKE of Nicky Hager? That slight, perpetually boyish, journalist who descends periodically, like the admonishing angel in a medieval mystery play, to trouble our consciences and wreak merry havoc with the orderly conduct of our political affairs....
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • Can anyone in msm explain how after Dirty Politics that they all got played...
    Would you not think, that after reading Dirty Politics, that our mainstream media wouldn’t allow themselves to get tricked and played again by the VERY SAME discredited pundits? The best new feature on Radio NZ is their ‘Blog Watch’ and their...
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • Crusher Collins caught out lying about Privacy Commissioner – is this her...
    Crusher angry. Crusher smash own career. Crusher more angry. You would think that after getting outed as such a nasty, vicious piece of work in Dirty Politics, that Crusher would be scrambling to dial back the lies and manipulations. Apparently...
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • Cunliffe vs Key – first leaders debate
    This is your election ‘moderator’ – just one more reason an incoming Government need to sack everyone at TVNZ and reform it into an actual public broadcaster. The first leaders debate happens this Thursday, 7pm on TV One. I have...
    The Daily Blog | 26-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Kate Davis – An Old and Honourable Profession
      When Dirty Politics started to reference an ex-prostitute I began to get antsy. My first response was “come on Nicky, we decriminalised in 2003. Its sex worker.” My second response was “Ah oh. Who was it and did they...
    The Daily Blog | 26-08
  • Bought and paid for: the dirty politics of climate denial
    Has climate denial in New Zealand been bought and paid for by corporate interests? We already know that the ACT Party’s routine denial is closely linked to the financial support the party receives from wealthy free market fundamentalist Alan Gibbs,...
    The Daily Blog | 26-08
  • If the msm read The Daily Blog, THIS wouldn’t be a surprise – explainin...
    Yawn. How embarrassing for Hamish Rutherford and Andrea Vance, their breathless article today suggests that the idea of Labour and NZ First cutting a  deal over the buy back of assets  is some how new news. Silly mainstream media  journalists. If...
    The Daily Blog | 26-08
  • How much tax does John Key pay compared to a minimum wage worker??
    Yesterday I did some calculations to find out what tax John Key pays compared to a worker on the minimum wage. And I put out this media release for the Mana Movement: MANA Movement Economic Justice spokesperson John Minto is...
    The Daily Blog | 26-08
  • Hip hop death threats – the selective outrage of our media
    PM death threat in hip hop songAn Auckland hip-hop crew slammed for releasing a song with lyrics that apparently include a threat to kill Prime Minister John Key are urging young people to enrol to vote. Kill The PM, by...
    The Daily Blog | 26-08
  • Watch Slater turn into Key right before your eyes
    Watch Slater turn into Key right before your eyes...
    The Daily Blog | 26-08
  • I don’t always agree with Patrick Gower – but he didn’t deserve this!
    I don’t always agree with Patrick Gower – but he didn’t deserve this weird spear tackle from behind by his own company. I was listening to this interview at the time, and the awkwardness of it must be the worst...
    The Daily Blog | 26-08
  • Is it weird Radio NZ ban me yet still have….
    Is it weird Radio NZ ban me for life because I criticised the Prime Minister yet still have Matthew Hooton, David Farrar and Jordan Williams, 3 of the main protagonists revealed in Dirty Politics as part of their ongoing political...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • Christchurch GCSB meeting – why mass surveillance matters in 2014
    This is the video for last weeks GCSB meeting in Christchurch. Don’t forget Nicky Hager’s public meeting Wednesday night in Auckland, TDB will live stream the event in the interests of our democracy. Broadcast starts 7.30pm here on TDB....
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • Assange, Greenwald to appear at Town Hall meeting? + KDC is not the hacker ...
    Wikileaks founder and the engineer of revealing some of the largest abuses of power in the modern era, Julian Assange, is rumoured to be appearing at the September 15th Town Hall meeting. Assange would join award winning investigative journalist Glen...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • Why Paula Bennett will be the next leader and Hooton throws the Prime Minis...
    I don’t think the public have any idea of the behind the scenes meltdown now occurring within National. There are plenty of decent right wingers who all have ethical standards who have looked at what their leaders have been doing and...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Curwen Rolinson – That Awkward Feeling When Your Campaign Goe...
    Urgh. It’s a thankless and nearly impossible task politically firefighting some days. Somebody (who isn’t you, but who’s in your care, or whom you’ve got a close professional relationship with) does or says something stupid; somebody from the Media’s there...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Joe Trinder – Dirty politics goes viral
    Join the latest social networking craze this election that every Dog Cat and Jabba is putting on their facebook pages.     Joe Trinder – Ngāti Awa Born and born in Ōtepoti Ōtākou, Ex RNZN he is an Information Technology...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • Blogwatch: An open letter to David Farrar: Please, be that guy
    Dear David, In light of  Nicky Hager’s book Dirty Politics, you wrote a blog entitled ‘Some changes on Kiwiblog’ and you suggested it was time to tighten up ship on your website, saying “I want to improve trust in myself,...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • What The Hell Was That! Reflections on the media’s coverage of the Intern...
    WHAT, EXACTLY, DO WE KNOW about the confrontation outside Internet-Mana’s campaign launch? Well, we know the news media was there in force. We also know Internet-Mana’s media person, Pam Corkery, blew her stack. We know that Corkery’s outburst led the...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • NZ First candidate – homophobic, bennie bashing anti-intellectual clown
    Oh God, apart from Ron Mark, Tracey Martin, Curwen Rolinson and Winston before midday, the woeful cavalcade of political circus freaks NZ First seem to attract has picked up another hitchhiker. This time Epsom candidate Cliff Lyon who said this about Labour… “If...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • Nicky Hager Public Meeting LIVESTREAM on The Daily Blog 7.30pm Wednesday 27...
    As part of our commitment to the 2014 Election debate, The Daily Blog will Livestream the Nicky Hager public meeting in Auckland, 7.30pm live from the Mt Eden War Memorial this Wednesday on this site. Doors open at 7pm. It...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Curwen Rolinson – Opening Night. It’s like an opera!
    On Saturday night just gone, we collectively experienced one of the premier panegyrys of political pageantry in our three yearly electoral cycle. For one glorious weekend evening every three years, it’s not the All Blacks or some Super 14 team, or...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking rant on Radio Hauraki: Today, Unions – what ...
    Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking on Radio Hauraki...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • Timor-Leste’s Parliament handed ‘humiliating’ defeat over harsh media...
    East Timorese journalists raise their hands to approve the Timor-Leste JournalistCode of Ethics in October 2013. Photo: Tempo Semanal/Cafe Pacific   David Robie also blogs at Café Pacific. PACIFIC SCOOP reported this week that East Timor’s Appeal Court had scrapped...
    The Daily Blog | 24-08
  • THIS is why we need a public broadcaster!
    The richest 20% of us in NZ own 70% of the wealth, with 18% in the hands of the second richest quintile, and 10% in the hands of the middle quintile. Just 2 per cent was owned by people in...
    The Daily Blog | 24-08
  • A vote for Key is a vote for this
    A vote for Key is a vote for this...
    The Daily Blog | 24-08
  • Why the Secret Intelligence Service feeding Cameron Slater information is s...
    Folks, it doesn’t matter if you are Right or Left, the issue of the Secret Intelligence Service being forced to feed a far right hate speech merchant like Cameron Slater with sensitive information is an ‘us’ issue. The SIS are...
    The Daily Blog | 24-08
  • How lost and irrelevant are ACT?
    So ACT had it’s ‘launch’. Well, what passes as an ACT launch these days. Lot’s of anorak’s with that 1000 yard star and dreams of a Milton Friedman Free Market dancing behind their eyelids all crammed into a room small...
    The Daily Blog | 24-08
  • National Party rowing advert aimed at Gen Xers
    Unkind wags such as myself would suggest that if the above were a real representation of National, it would look more like this…   National know they have the rural mob and the angry provincial vote locked in, with their...
    The Daily Blog | 24-08
  • National Housing propaganda – McGehan Close Revisited
    .   . Housing has become a major, defining issue in New Zealand. We have critical shortages and escalating prices in  in the main centres and falling house values in the regions. The National government has addressed the supply &...
    The Daily Blog | 24-08
  • New Zealand’s biggest problems are Economic Issues
    New Zealand’s biggest problems are Economic Issues (41%) while the World’s most important problems are War & Terrorism (35%) just three weeks before NZ Election...
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • NZ 2014 Leaders Index – week ending 29 August
    Below is iSentia’s first weekly Leaders’ Index, showing the relative amount of coverage of nine Party Leaders in the lead up to the National Election across news media and social media. We will produce these reports for the next three...
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Judgment in Paki v Attorney General
    Tamaiti Cairns said that today’s Supreme Court decision is complicated, but, in essence opens the door for Maori people to go forward with their essential claims to water. Further work is required and Pouakani Trust will continue to pursue its...
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Supreme Court Decision on Maori Water Rights
    “ … the Supreme Court refused to give Pouakani people what they asked for, but may have given them something much, much better instead. The Appellants had argued that the Crown’s ownership of the River was as a fiduciary for...
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Leaders Dinner with Campbell Live, Dessert with RadioLIVE
    John Campbell is hosting Colin Craig, Winston Peters, Laila Harre, Metiria Turei, Peter Dunne, Jamie Whyte and Te Ururoa Flavell LIVE from Auckland’s Grand Harbour Restaurant on Wednesday 3 September at 7pm....
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Credit unions in the political spotlight
    Dirty politics was put aside last night as senior politicians outlined their universal support for growing the cooperatively owned credit union and mutual building society sector in New Zealand....
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Maryan Street on issues of importance to older people
    Liam Butler interviews Hon Maryan Street MP on issues of importance to older New Zealanders...
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • John Hanita Paki and others v The Attorney-General
    JOHN HANITA PAKI, TORIWAI ROTARANGI, TAUHOPA TE WANO HEPI, MATIU MAMAE PITIROI AND GEORGE MONGAMONGA RAWHITI v THE ATTORNEY-GENERAL OF NEW ZEALAND FOR AND ON BEHALF OF THE CROWN (“THE CROWN”) (SC 7/2010)...
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Last Nights Leaders Debate Drives The #nzpol Wordcloud
    Following last nights leaders debate on TV One between John Key and David Cunliffe, the data insight organisation Qrious collected all tweets that used the hashtag #nzpol from approximately the last 24 hours to produce this wordcloud....
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Campaign suggests reason behind suicide gender statistics
    An online campaign about meaning and belonging has revealed an interesting connection with the difference in suicide rates between men and women....
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Act Policy Vindicated by Sensible Sentencing Data
    ACT Leader Dr Jamie Whyte says the Sensible Sentencing Trust's just released analysis of 3 Strikes legislation "proves ACT was right to promote the policy and that it has made New Zealand a much safer country. The figures show beyond...
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • “Robin Hood tax and other clever ways to help our kids”
    It’s time to talk about tax. Not just income tax but other kinds of tax too....
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Cannabis Laws Breach Treaty – ALCP
    Cannabis prohibition is neo-colonial oppression resulting in the disproportionate imprisonment of Maori, the Aotearoa Legalise Cannabis Party says....
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • 2014 Variation Broadcasting Allocation Decision Released
    The Electoral Commission has released a variation decision on the amount of time and money allocated to political parties for the broadcasting of election programmes for the 2014 General Election....
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • New Zealand Shoppers- Demand Blue Tick Accredited Products
    Following ongoing concerns surrounding the issue of animal welfare in farming, particularly in the layer and broiler chicken sectors, the RNZSPCA is now asking consumers to purchase only eggs, pork, turkey and chicken that have been Accredited by the Blue...
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • EDS welcomes Labour’s Environment Policy
    The Environmental Defence Society has welcomed Labour’s Environment Policy which recognises that New Zealand cannot have a healthy economy without a healthy environment....
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Candidate calls for an end to institutional racism
    29 AUGUST 2014 Tāmaki Makaurau candidate, Rangi McLean has spoken up in support of Irie Te Wehi-Takerei who was wrongfully accused of shoplifting at a Warehouse store in Manukau. "Over the last month, two different supermarkets have been...
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Making tertiary education more accessible to Māori
    29 August 2014 The Māori Party launched its tertiary education policy today at Te Huinga Tauira o Te Mana Ākonga, the national hui for the Māori Teritary Students Association in Palmerston North. Te Tai Hauāuru candidate Chris McKenzie says the...
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • NZ Sign Language programmes receives $11 million boost
    Deaf Aotearoa are thrilled with Education minister Hekia Parata’s announcement this week that $11 million in funding will go towards a range of New Zealand Sign Language initiatives, including First Signs – a programme that involves sign language...
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Abortion violates the Human Rights of Fathers
    Fathers1Right to Life is concerned at the glaring imbalance that exists in law, in regard to the rights of men to defend the lives of the children they have fathered. Fatherhood commences at conception. Children in the womb, just like...
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Hundreds to join march against male violence in Auckland CBD
    Hundreds of supporters are expected to join the 'Take Back the Night' march through central Auckland streets tomorrow night in solidarity with making the streets safe for women and the rainbow community to walk without fear of male violence....
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Classic example of need for Conservative policy
    The Conservative Party Justice Spokesman, Garth McVicar believes the sentencing of killer Aaron McDonald is a classic example of why an overhaul of the parole and sentencing system is required.”...
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Greens & Labour Politicising Bullying in Schools
    Family First NZ says that both the Greens and Labour are wanting to politicise and sexualise school children under the guise of bullying programmes rather than deal with the school bullying issue as it should be dealt with....
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Wellington National Is Not Our Future Rally 30/8/14
    Thousands of people will march and rally at National is not our Future events on Saturday. Auckland is the main rally centre with supportive actions in Wellington, Dunedin, Christchurch and Hamilton. In Wellington, marchers will assemble at Te Papa...
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • EPA grants marine consent for OMV exploration well
    The Environmental Protection Authority has granted a marine consent to OMV New Zealand Ltd for its Whio-1 exploration well in the Taranaki Basin....
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • First anniversary of the horrific chemical attacks on Syria
    Members of the Syrian Community and friends are commemorating the first anniversary of the horrific chemical attacks on Syria, in Aotea Square on Saturday 30 August 2014, between 11-3 pm. The Assad regimes chemical attacks on al Ghouta were responsible...
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Anniversary of the NZ Occupation of German Samoa
    Today, 29th August 2014, marks the 100 years centenary of the occupation of Samoa by New Zealand forces at the request of the British empire, ending the German rule of Samoa. It is also the starting point for the special...
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Submissions sought on mosquito repellent
    The Environmental Protection Authority is calling for submissions on a portable mosquito repellent for use outdoors. The repellent consists of a strip impregnated with metofluthrin, a substance from the pyrethroid family....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Spot the difference – the leaders debate
    I watched the Leaders' debate last night and was struck by the fact that John Key accepted all of David Cunliffe's basic assumptions. For example, he did not say that the government should not tell farmers who they could sell...
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Colin Craig’s tax figures do not add up and are dishonest
    “Colin Craig’s tax plan is to have two rates of income tax: 0% up to $20,000 and 25% above that. This will leave a $6.4 billion hole in the budget even before the new spending proposed by the Conservatives. The...
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Dirty Politics Impacts National Party Support
    Media Release – For Immediate Release Dirty Politics Impacts National Party Support Support for National has dropped by 4.3% to 50.8%, the latest stuff.co.nz / Ipsos political poll shows....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Labour’s environment policy welcomed
    The independent conservation organisation Forest & Bird says that overall the Labour Party’s newly released environment policy would go a long way towards protecting New Zealand’s natural heritage....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • National: Not our Future Marches across New Zealand
    Three weeks before the election, action is being taken across the country voicing a rejection of the National Government's track record and direction. Rallies are being held in Auckland, Wellington, Christchurch and Dunedin to oppose National's...
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Tune in to tonight’s debate from 7pm
    The countdown is on! You can watch the first leader’s debate for 2014 tonight, 7pm, on TV One ....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Gamblefree Day 1 September
    It's Gamblefree Day this Monday 1 September, the national awareness day for problem gambling in New Zealand. While traditionally celebrated on the first day of September, many events and activities are held both before and after this day to raise...
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Success through captioning should be a given as a Right
    Success through captioning should be a given as a Right per the Convention on the Rights of People with Disabilities...
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Alcohol Marketing Committee Questions Government’s Motives
    An Independent Expert Committee on Alcohol Advertising and Sponsorship (IECAAS) has been formed out of concern amongst alcohol and public health researchers about the government’s Ministerial Forum on Alcohol Advertising and Sponsorship (MFAAS)....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • How Much Higher Can Auckland Prices Go?
    National's plan to liberalise the use of Kiwisaver funds and its proposal to raise ts cheap "Welcome Home" loan thresholds to help buyers purchase a new home has been welcomed by home building companies but attacked as a "welfare scheme...
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • OPC submission period extended
    We have extended the submission period for the modified reassessment of a bee control affecting five organophosphate and carbamate insecticides (APP202142)....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Vinay Deobhakta struck off roll of barristers and solicitors
    The New Zealand Lawyers and Conveyancers Disciplinary Tribunal has ordered former Tauranga lawyer Vinay Deobhakta to be struck off the roll of barristers and solicitors....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Major parties to front up for Climate Voter election debate
    New Zealand’s main political parties will take part in ‘The Great Climate Voter Debate’ on September 3....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Family violence… too big to be ignored
    As Annah Stretton gears up for her New Zealand Fashion Week show on Thursday she is utilizing her spotlight to help change the face of family violence in this country saying “the problem is far too big to ignore”....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Candidate’s SOS to northern Maori voters: Save our seats!
    (Extract from address by Rev Te Hira Paenga to Kura Hourua Maori Political Leaders hui, in Whangarei this evening)....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Mary O’Neill to Stand for the Alliance in Napier
    The Alliance Party has confirmed Mary O’Neill as the Alliance candidate in the Napier Electorate for the 2014 election....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • TONIGHT [28/8/14]: The Great Political Comedy Debate
    It's a night for debating. You could stay home frowning at tonight's Leaders debate, or laugh it up with us at BATS!...
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Cunliffe against personal responsibility over billboards
    The accusation by David Cunliffe that the Conservative Party is subscribing to a surveillance society by protecting its billboards via the use of motion sensor cameras reveals an anti-personal responsibility position by the about-to-be-retired Leader...
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Groundbreaking health and climate conference
    The World Health Organization (WHO) is holding its first conference on climate change and health at its headquarters in Geneva this week, with New Zealand health experts in attendance....
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Te Tai Tokerau Party
    Last night at the Leadership Academy of Company A debate Clinton Dearlove announced the creation of a new political party supported by Whanau and Hapu....
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Significant fallout from Dirty Politics allegations
    Dirty politics ... costing National up to 3.8% of its pre-publication support Large numbers of New Zealanders are aware of and talking about the issues raised as a result of the publication of Nicky Hager’s book, Dirty Politics, according to...
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Colin Craig is “deluded and dangerous” – Act
    “Colin Craig is proposing a radical transformation of our constitution. The Conservatives are proposing to overthrow of one hundred and fifty odd years of parliamentary democracy and replace it with binding referenda” said ACT Leader Dr Jamie Whyte....
    Scoop politics | 27-08
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