web analytics
The Standard

Those nice men in suits

Written By: - Date published: 8:18 am, November 12th, 2011 - 16 comments
Categories: act, class war, democracy under attack, election 2011, national - Tags: ,

16 comments on “Those nice men in suits”

  1. aerobubble 1

    Do councils have the right to dictate the form of protests? many
    think so, on National Radio, Mora and his panel were overwhelmingly
    in favor of council having a say on tents put up in the public square.
    Honestly when asked do you think free speach is more important
    than a camping violation most people you’d think would say
    free speach. Not National Radio.

    Councils have many duties to their rate payers, one is noise
    control, but if noise control is not a free phone number then
    those rate payers who are fed up with the students next
    door driving their loud vibrational cars down the side of
    their homes at 2am in the morning and then at 7am, and
    have run out of prepay.

    Does the right of freespeach include large doses of noise
    and vibration, obviously not, why can council then argue
    that boy racers have some right of freespeach???/ and
    the expense of the free speach of others, i.e. the ability
    to get a good nights sleep and so make fairly understandable
    free speach themselves.

    Obviously protesters must stay within the law, and not
    stop others from protesting, but a few tents…

    We already live in a fascist society when fascist views
    are aired on supposed balance liberal media.

    • Afewknowthetruth 1.1

      aero

      Surely you would not expect anything different from National Radio.

      NR is an outlet for the promotion of the disaster-as-usual agenda of corporations. Anyone who challenges that agenda (as many have over the years) get ignored or downplayed.

      When ‘problems’ are identified on NR they are invariably followed by non-solutions that involve money-making for corporations.

      I agree: we already live in a covert fascist state (by Mussolini’s definition the melding of corporate, military and government interests) and are awaiting the morphing into an overt fascist state.

      Judging by what is happening in Europe we won’t have long to wait:

      http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/difficult-times-ahead-for-economy-says-david-cameron-6260786.html

      Once politicians stop telling the masses things are on the cusp of improving you know it must be close to the end.

  2. Mac1 2

    “They came for the Communists, and I didn’t object –
    For I wasn’t a Communist;
    They came for the Socialists, and I didn’t object –
    For I wasn’t a Socialist;
    They came for the labor leaders, and I didn’t object –
    For I wasn’t a labor leader;
    They came for the Jews, and I didn’t object –
    For I wasn’t a Jew;

    Then they came for me –
    And there was no one left to object.”

    These lines by German Pastor Martin Niemoller came instantly to mind when I saw the post.

    I wonder what the New Zealand equivalent would be?

    “They came for……….

    • James Stephenson 2.1

      Yes, but then as Nigel Blackwell observed, sometimes it’s best to turn a blind eye.

      Caution: English humour you might not get.
      http://www.chrisrand.com/hmhb/four-lads-who-shook-the-wirral-1998/turn-blind-eye/

      • Mac1 2.1.1

        I don’t think Dani Behr was behind the wardrobe, having had to Google her for the reference in the song. Indeed, I don’t think that much came at all for the four lads who shook the wirral. There was only one way those lads got to be blind to have one to turn.

        But then, being Mac1, I missed out on English humour!

    • Afewknowthetruth 2.2

      Nac 1

      Timely reminder.

      ‘I wonder what the New Zealand equivalent would be?’

      They sold the nation’s assets but I was too busy watching rugby/cricket/golf/dancing with the stars to notice.

      They covered the land in shopping malls and suburbia but I was too busy watching rugby/cricket/golf/dancing with the stars to notice.

      They passed legislation to punish those who grow food naturally but I was too busy watching rugby/cricket/ golf/dancing with the stars to notice.

      They ignored Peak Oil, Climate Change and unravelling of fiat currencies but I was too busy watching rugby/cricket/ golf/dancing with the stars to notice.

      • seeker 2.3.1

        @Draco TB 1.04pm

        Thanks for the link Draco on “Corporations will eat your soul”- now everything since 1979 is beginning to make sense . How have I missed this “sermon” for so long?. It provides many of the missing links for something I have been trying to articulate since the term “inner cities” (in Britain) was uttered with such a derisive and yet dismissive tone bordering on complete contempt by one, Margaret Thatcher. They were in trouble and yet she almost seemed to delight in it. Yuck.

        This feeling of “yuck” only seemed to disappear slightly when election time came, when it was replaced with hope for a change of government, yet tarnished with ever heightening anxiety and fear that conservatives would once again “get in” and continue to ruin our short time on this planet with same old, same old never ending cuts, quangos, lies etc. I was conditioned to this for eighteen long,long,long years in Britain.
        It was hell for so many as all joy, hope, chance to develop and progress in life was sucked out of us. Dementors ruled. Many committed suicide in the first few years of Thatcher’s government. And the talk about money and business just grew and grew until it pervaded everything-our hopes our dreams our schools, our communities and our homes via adverts,TVshows, newspapers, magazines- and then there was Rupert Murdoch……..spinning, misleading, manipulating and apparently later, hacking

        Now it is 2011 and I have been having those same old feelings of heightening anxiety and fear only this time it is that it is highly likely that Brand Key will get in again..In fact my fear has taken a new form a -it has morphed into a nightmare of the future.All can see after November 26th as I wake, is a New Zealand being laid to waste and sucked dry as Britain was. It fills me with dread and horror.

        Whoever took over in Britain in 1997 would have a really hard task ahead of them as the soul along with her wealth and her health had been sucked out of Britain. Thatcher and co had done what world war 2 had not done – brought Britain to her knees. My mother would never again vote conservative -they had privatised our water and France now owned it. Blair had a very sick country to deal with (One good thing though was that my mother had become aware that conservatism was quite monstrous. I admired her greatly over this. For after being a staunch conservative all her life, especially as Winston Churchill won the war; she could still think for herself, see what treacherous damage Thatcher and co had done to our country and society and chose to refuse to vote for them ever again- all at 77! She hadn’t been invaded by the germans and she still hadn’t been invade by the corporates when she died 10 years later..Bless her.

        Finally in 97, I thought,Thank God, as Labour got in because we had been on the way to a dictatorship.Many in Britain were so apathetic,broken and demoralised especially the 3,000,000 I think it was, who had become become unemployed.
        I thought Labour would bring in proportional representation to stop this, ‘whatever it was’ ,under Thatcher ever happening again, but they didn’t, very bad. Britain had been well on the way under the new conservatives to becoming a dictatorship and maybe taken over by “those nice men in the suits “in your photo. It certainly felt like that after eighteen years of these ‘new’ and twice as self- centered conservatives.

        Thankfully New Zealand has MMP.
        But it will lose itself too if it doesn’t wake up to corporates like Key,Joyce,Phil O’Reilly and his cronies,and people like Ashcroft. They have already been ‘invaded’ you can see by their eyes, hear from their words and see by their actions. Nick Smith is another one that has gone corporate.. He has changed a lot over the last seven or so years.
        Now thanks to Draco I know what has happened to Nick and his colleagues- they have probably been taken over or corporatised into a corpse like corporate, ready to prey on the rest of us, and suck the joy out of us like Dementors.

        This enlightening link also explains a lot about right wing journalists and ghastly bloggers, cetaceans and trolls and how to spot them as they have obviously been ‘corporate snatched’. Many have those corporate reptilian,sometimes amphibious like eyes or face; they often rub their hands together and/or lick their lips and rub their noses and/or crinkle their foreheads like their leader and many will tilt their heads on one side like guyon, but not sure why this is: Nick Smith does this too,especially when talking about ACC.

        This all sounds like something from Torchwood! Heaven help us as we wait for the corporates’ next move………

        N.B I hope I wake from the horrible experience of the last three years on November27 under a Labour /Green government and find that New Zealand is free of the treacherous and life leeching body corporate. I hope that we are once again able to breathe, grow and develop freely as humans should under a government that is there to serve New Zealand and all who sail in her rather than serve themselves and the nact mothership.
        Maybe then can we all get back to trying to do what humans do best- serving and helping each other, enjoying one anothers company and teaching our children how to love, trust,care, share develop and excel.- all without fear of inhuman punitive, abusive and ideological injustices . A world where money will not eat our souls.

        • seeker 2.3.1.1

          Had to correct this from yesterday. Comment from seeker@554pm should have paragraph 3 “Now it is 2011….” under paragraph 5 beginning “Finally in 1997…”.
          Found comment difficult to write as comment box kept moving or jumping half way through and when I saw my mistake when i finally submitted, I found the edit function didn’t work and suddenly just disappeared.
          Know it’s not important in the great scheme of things, but I cared to correct now the post is up and running normally again. Cheers and here’s to the end of futuristic nightmares about Brand Key World on 27-11-11.

    • Blue 2.4

      “They came for the public servants, and I didn’t object –
      For I wasn’t a public servant (and I didn’t like them anyway);
      They came for the beneficiaries, and I didn’t object –
      For I wasn’t a beneficiary (and I didn’t like them anyway);
      They came for the low-income workers, and I didn’t object –
      For I wasn’t a low-income worker (and I didn’t like them anyway);
      They came for the journalists, and I didn’t object –
      For I wasn’t a journalist (and I didn’t like them anyway);

      Then they came for me –
      And there was no one left to object (the rich didn’t care).”

      • Mac1 2.4.1

        Blue and AFKTT, thanks for your responses and Draco T for your reminder in that sermon. I believe that General Smedley Baker, the Fighting Quaker, recovered his soul in his later years. So may all the servants of Mammon, I hope. In the end, politics is also a battle for souls.

  3. Afewknowthetruth 3

    Monsanto’s enforcers?

    BP’s enforcers?

    IMF’s enforcerrs?

  4. ianmac 4

    Mr Key’s guard detail?

  5. John D 6

    So am I permanently banned from this site for making a lame joke about Robyn Malcolm?

    [lprent: The way this operates is that whoever does the moderation sets the term. In this case that wasn’t specified. The blacklist was pressed to throw you into auto-spam. So I’d guess your ‘joke’ didn’t amuse the sprout.

    He’d given you a series of warnings that you appear to have ignored. That is all that moderators will attempt to do – there are too many idiots out there trying to be ‘funny’ to be bothered educating each one about how not to be perceived as being a dumbarse troll who adds nothing to the site.

    We don’t override other moderators as we do have different moderating styles (you should try getting Irish to moderate you some time). I will ask the sprout if a permanent ban is what he intended. Very occasionally one of us presses the wrong button or gets a bit too irritated. ]

Recent Comments

Recent Posts

1 2 3 8

  • Minister needs to do his homework
    Nathan Guy needs to do his homework, Labour’s Primary Industries spokesperson Damien O’Connor says. “Answering questions in Parliament today on the dairy sector, the Primary Industries Minister denied John Key wants to float Fonterra. ...
    6 hours ago
  • Minister needs to put the kibosh on dirty diesel
    State-Owned Enterprises Minister Todd McClay has to get a grip on the KiwiRail board and put the kibosh on its crazy plan for dirty diesel on the main trunk line, Labour’s Transport spokesperson Phil Twyford says. It has been revealed… ...
    8 hours ago
  • Louise Nicholas Day: Work still to do
    This is a summary of a speech I gave in honour of Louise Nicholas Day on March 31 The IPCA report showed us basic mistakes are still able to be made within a specialist unit. The Police Commissioner said there… ...
    GreensBy Jan Logie MP
    9 hours ago
  • The meanness and pettiness of Nats in power
    Last night, Parliament debated NZ First MP Tracey Martin’s Bill to ensure children in the long term care of family members were able to access a clothing allowance currently only available to children in foster care. Many of these children… ...
    GreensBy Jan Logie MP
    9 hours ago
  • Defence Force’s Hotshots given cold shoulder
    The latest victim of the Government’s cost-cutting drive looks set to be an organisation that has provided vital services and support to defence force staff and their families for 67 years, Labour’s Defence spokesperson Phil Goff says. “Labour understands Gerry… ...
    10 hours ago
  • Dairy price drop a blow to neglected regions
    The biggest drop in global milk prices for four years is yet another blow to the dairy industry and the many neglected regions that rely on it, says Labour’s Economic Development Spokesperson David Clark. “This 13 per cent drop in… ...
    11 hours ago
  • Plenty left to do on human rights
    Labour is backing calls to have a Parliamentary Select Committee take responsibility for overseeing and monitoring human rights issues. “A just released three-year study into New Zealand’s track record on human rights, funded by the Law Society, makes uneasy reading,”… ...
    14 hours ago
  • Many regions need by-election levels of support
    Northland is not the only region struggling under the National Government, but unfortunately places like Gisborne, Whanganui and Tasman do not have by-elections on the horizon, Labour’s Economic Development spokesperson David Clark says. “A desperate National Party has thrown money… ...
    1 day ago
  • Real changes must come from CYF review
    A well-overdue revamp of Child, Youth and Family cannot be just another cost cutting exercise, Labour’s Children’s spokesperson Jacinda Ardern says. “Labour has been pushing for a review for some time. It was part of our policy at the election. ...
    1 day ago
  • Latest Air NZ plan carries on regional snub
    Christchurch Labour Members of Parliament have secured a meeting with Air New Zealand boss Christopher Luxon following the airline’s decision to cut its Christchurch to Tokyo summer flights.  They are also calling on the Minister of Transport Simon Bridges to… ...
    2 days ago
  • Carmel Sepuloni back in Social Development role
    Andrew Little has reinstated Carmel Sepuloni as Labour’s Social Development spokesperson following the sentencing of her mother in the New Plymouth District Court today. “It has been a tough time for Carmel, but we both agreed it was appropriate she… ...
    2 days ago
  • Government taking Kiwis for April Fools
    Many Kiwis will be wondering if the joke is on them when a raft of Government changes come into effect tomorrow, Labour Leader Andrew Little says. “First is ACC and National’s unwillingness to end its rort of Kiwi businesses which… ...
    2 days ago
  • Time to show RMA housing affordability plans
    Labour is challenging the Government to reveal its plans to make housing more affordable through amending the Resource Management Act, Labour’s Housing spokesperson Phil Twyford says. “Labour remains willing to consider the proposals on housing affordability on their merits and… ...
    2 days ago
  • John Key now admits no broad support for RMA changes
    John Key has now been forced to admit that he never had the broad political support to gut the Resource Management Act, says Labour’s Environment spokesperson Megan Woods. “Cornerstone legislation such as the RMA should never be changed without genuine… ...
    3 days ago
  • National’s changes leave student bodies in chaos
    The chaos created by National’s scrapping of compulsory student association membership may force the 86-year old Union of Students Association to fold, Labour’s Tertiary Education spokesperson David Cunliffe says. “National’s 2011 Voluntary Student Membership Act has left student associations with… ...
    3 days ago
  • Tragedy must be impetus for better training
    The Police Minister needs to explain why unsworn and inadequately trained custody officers were put in a situation of caring for a medically unwell prisoner on a busy Saturday night, Labour’s Police spokesperson Kelvin Davis says. Commenting on an IPCA… ...
    6 days ago
  • Government must be more transparent on investor state clauses
    The Government must be more transparent around the draft investor state dispute settlements in the TPPA, says David Parker, Labour’s Export Growth and Trade spokesperson. “Labour is pro trade, and is proud of the FTA we negotiated with China, which… ...
    7 days ago
  • Protect university staff and student voices
    The Green Party believes ensuring student and staff representation on university councils is important. National recently passed a law reducing the size of university governance councils while increasing the proportion of the members nominated by, guess who… Steven Joyce. The… ...
    GreensBy Gareth Hughes MP
    1 week ago
  • We can fix Christchurch and keep our assets
    The Christchurch City Council is seeking public feedback on its proposed 10 year plan for Council revenue and spending. This is probably one of the most significant 10 year plans ever to be written by a local council because of… ...
    GreensBy Eugenie Sage MP
    1 week ago
  • Thanking our caregivers
    Let’s celebrate and thank our caregivers. This week is caregivers’ week. It’s a chance to acknowledge the thousands of women, and occasional other person, who are caring for the elderly and disabled in our country. They hold people’s lives in… ...
    GreensBy Jan Logie MP
    1 week ago
  • Roundup: UN finds it “probably” causes cancer
    At last the UN has spoken out against the widely-used weedkiller Roundup. The UN’s International Agency for Research on Cancer has identified glyphosate, the principle ingredient in Roundup, as a probable carcinogen. They also include as probable carcinogens the insecticides… ...
    GreensBy Steffan Browning MP
    1 week ago
  • World water day: eight rivers in one day
    Our photo journey started by the Waioweka (also known as Waioeka) River which flows from Te Urewera to Opotiki, and is surrounded by beautiful forest. The water looked great! Kopeopeo Canal It contrasted greatly with the Kopeopeo Canal near Whakatane,… ...
    GreensBy Catherine Delahunty MP
    1 week ago
  • We all benefit when education meets everyone’s needs
    As Dyslexia week comes to a close,  Dyslexia NZ have reminded us that around 10% of our citizens are dyslexic and are entitled to better support. One of their strongest arguments is that failure to provide identification and support for… ...
    GreensBy Catherine Delahunty MP
    1 week ago
  • Big change starts small
    Today marks Race Relations Day in New Zealand. Race Relations Day coincides with the International Day for the Elimination of Racial Discrimination.  The United Nations General Assembly chose this day as it marks the day in 1960 when 69 peaceful… ...
    GreensBy Denise Roche MP
    2 weeks ago
  • Israel, Palestine and the question of statehood
    The knife-edge election in Israel complicates the Middle East situation, even more than usual. The Prime Minister-elect, Binyamin Netanyahu, is moving to form a government. Netanyahu has indicated that, during his term, a Palestinian state would not be established. That… ...
    GreensBy Kennedy Graham MP
    2 weeks ago
  • Christchurch transport goes backwards
    The Green Party has a vision of a liveable, accessible Christchurch with a sense of identity and strong connected communities. Instead, 2013 census figures released by Statistics New Zealand reveal a fractured community, and tell a story of frustrated Christchurch commuters… ...
    GreensBy Eugenie Sage MP
    2 weeks ago
  • Super Fund should divest $140 million in high risk coal
    The Green Party is calling on the New Zealand Super Fund to divest their $140 million investment in coal companies that are vulnerable to becoming financially stranded according to a damning new report from Oxford University. The Smith School of… ...
    GreensBy Russel Norman MP
    2 weeks ago
  • Learn to count with Mark Osborne: 0 + 1 = ?
    The adage about the first casualty of war being truth is one that might often be applied to the political battle for hearts and minds, and of course votes. A rather unfortunate example of this has been arriving in the… ...
    GreensBy David Clendon MP
    2 weeks ago
  • Is it still a safety net when the holes are this big?
    Over the last few weeks I’ve been wondering how safe our income support system is for people, especially those with cognitive or learning disabilities. I’ve been trying to support a young man who was severely injured in a workplace accident… ...
    GreensBy Jan Logie MP
    2 weeks ago
  • Pasifika – protecting the Pacific needed now more than ever.
    Over the weekend thousands of Aucklanders flocked to celebrate our city’s diverse Pacific communities and cultures at the annual Pasifika festival and the Greens were there to join them. The Pasifika festival has been held every year for 23… ...
    GreensBy Denise Roche MP
    2 weeks ago

Removed at the request of The Daily Blog.
Public service advertisements by The Standard

Current CO2 level in the atmosphere