Ultra-fast broadband? Eventually, but not now

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1. mickysavage 1

   25 August 2009 at 8:51 am

   The worst thing is that Cunliffe’s broadband challenge and the local loop unbundling was working and things were on the improve. Since the election and the ritual behedding of many policies such as this there has been a hiatus.

   The least that Joyce could have sone was to let current projects continue. Or is that hoping for too much?
2. lprent 2

   25 August 2009 at 9:06 am

   Joyce appears to be a total bullshit artist when it comes to infrastructure projects.

   Not only do we have this ballsup, there is also the partially finished rail upgrades that he said would be finished after he pulled the regional fuel tax. That stalled the station upgrades, and they don’t appear to be moving.

   This governments attitude appears to have reverted to Muldoons one of screw aucklanders
3. The Voice of Reason 3

   25 August 2009 at 9:32 am

   The lack of interest from the Tory leadership in the needs of the rural residents/farming community is symptomatic of the National party’s idealogical shift to the cities. They no longer give a stuff about the rural electorate, just assuming the mugs will keep voting for them.

   They still have a token attempt at recognising their roots by having a senior leadership position reserved for the representative of a rural electorate. Currently that’s held by Bill English who farms in deepest rural Wadestown.

   It’s little wonder that the small town I live in swung toward Labour at the last election. The lack of broadband and mobile coverage is holding back growth and opportunities in the heartland and the Nat’s focus on Auckland is doing them and us no favours at all.
   • ghostwhowalks 3.1

     25 August 2009 at 9:49 am

     English was chairman of the Lyall Bay branch of the National party, before he was elected to Parliament.
     A bit like Key who faked his rural Helensville address to get selection for Parliament
4. RedLogix 4

   25 August 2009 at 9:38 am

   Fibre optic pipelines are a public utility exactly the same as roads, water, electricity and public transport. These services are all natural monopolies and subsidising private companies to own them is a proven nonsense.

   The best way forward would have been to fund the Regional Councils to own and build these things, using the private sector as contractors. The ducts and dark fibre itself (and in many cases being laid in existing public utility ducts) would remain in public ownership, while the various data and telecom services themselves could be run by the public sector via an open access model.

   But that was never going to happen with Joyce anywhere in the loop was it?

   BTW. Anyone else notice the obscene juxtaposition in the print Herald today? Front page has a few inches and a pic about Telecom’s Paul Reynolds getting a salary of $5m pa, while p2 has picketing lines engineers fighting to avoid a vicious contractual regime that would see many of them on less than the minimum wage.
   • RedLogix 4.1

     25 August 2009 at 9:57 am

     eerrk!

     while the various data and telecom services themselves could be run by the private sector via an open access model.
   • Draco T Bastard 4.2

     25 August 2009 at 1:01 pm

     The best way forward would have been to fund the Regional Councils to own and build these things, using the private sector as contractors.

     IMO, that’s not the best way forward as it doesn’t remove the dead weight loss of profit. Better to have the national data network built and maintained by a publicly owned monopoly. Gets rid of regional councils doing different things and not coordinating with every other regional council (the problem that Auckland has had for the last few decades).

     while the various data and telecom services themselves could be run by the public sector via an open access model.

     This I agree with. Things like VoIP, web pages etc can easily be provided by anyone with a server although I think minimal open (possibly government mandated) standards need to apply to encourage competition. MS spent years, and was almost successful, in changing the internet to a proprietary standard with IE. It’s only recently that they’ve started to support the standard that’s been there since the beginning.
5. Killinginthenameof 5

   25 August 2009 at 9:52 am

   Tut tut Ye of little faith!

   Any first year economics student will tell you, the invisible hand of the market is more than capable of laying broadband!

   Do you not live in the REAL WORLD(TM)
   • Tigger 5.1

     25 August 2009 at 10:53 am

     I’d really prefer the market kept its invisible hands to itself…
   • Quoth the Raven 5.2

     25 August 2009 at 1:37 pm

     So corporate welfare it is then….
6. Daveo 6

   25 August 2009 at 10:55 am

   David Farrar is in the pay of Telecom. Explains a lot.

   http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/05/qs_about_xt_mobile_network.html
7. Jasper 7

   25 August 2009 at 11:54 am

   Now see, this is where I fail to grasp ahold of Nationals tenuous understanding of the situation.

   For the same cost that National is proposing ultra fast broadband, which will become ultra slow broadband thanks to having only one cable, we could divert those funds into getting a second cable laid to connect with the AUSASIA cable that Australia is embarking on to connect with mainland asia.

   Our solitary cable, while having now reduced costs, simply isn’t sufficient to cater to the needs of NZ. $50 million would certainly be a lot cheaper, and for more future proofing capability, in laying a second cable so that we really can have ultra fast broadband.
   • Draco T Bastard 7.1

     25 August 2009 at 1:14 pm

     Except that such a cable has a cost of about $200m. Besides, Kordia’s already onto it.
8. bobo 8

   25 August 2009 at 1:08 pm

   Doesn’t ultra fast broadband depend on another sea cable being layed to America? Unless we just want local traffic.
   • ghostwhowalks 8.1

     25 August 2009 at 1:47 pm

     See above. We connect a new cable to Australia ( actually a T junction 120km off Sydney) who then connect a new cable to Guam, which is sort of a North pacific hub for traffic to between Asia and US.
     The deep ocean trenches towards Tonga Samoa mean its not practical to go in that direction
9. Swampy 9

   30 August 2009 at 12:40 am

   Meanwhile the education sector is getting on with implementing their part of the broadband plan, and spending the money the government has given them.
   • BLiP 9.1

     30 August 2009 at 12:44 am

     Is that the $35 million National Ltd took off the disabled children in public schools to give to the rich schools – oooh, lucky them

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