Open mike 13/01/2025

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1. weston 1

   13 January 2025 at 7:05 am

   Gaza war day 463 no end in sight .Justin Podur reports Israel and American planes bombing an open air demonstration in Sana'a so with all the contraventions of late regarding international law mostly if not almost entirely by those so called democracies we are supposed to trust …does it even exist at any meaningful sense any more ??

   Only yemen one of the poorest nations on earth dares to take on the might of an American battle fleet must have been quite a sight if anyones got some video of that please put it up .

   As far as i know Yemen's military hardware cannot be touched so deep in the mountains it is housed so the US /Israel just bombs what it can you know schools universities airports civilians the usual stuff that cowards with terroristic tendencies tend to attack .

   
   
   

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   • Hunter Thompson II 1.1

     13 January 2025 at 9:24 am

     The LA fires are a disaster, that's for sure, but it jars to see reports of 16 deaths from that event replace the 41,000 killed in Gaza by Israel's efforts.

     I assume Israel's leaders think that if they hammer Gaza into oblivion, no more Arab extremists will be tempted to attack in future. Good luck with that; there are plenty of potential martyrs just waiting.

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     • weston 1.1.1

       13 January 2025 at 10:16 am

       Not wrong there hunter 70 % of Hamas's recruits are orphans apparently .

       Always fascinating how the "extremist " label is so easily tacked onto the word Arab but not onto the other religious extremists in this case Israel .Did you know that for ex Hamas do not shoot down medivac helicopters coming to take away wounded IDF even when they could easily do so ?

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   • Populuxe 1.2

     13 January 2025 at 9:26 am

     Out of curiosity, were you cheerleading the Houthi when they were murdering their fellow Yemeni for being the wrong kind of Muslims, or does genocide only count if it's Israel?

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     • westonIve been cheerleading 1.2.1

       13 January 2025 at 10:35 am

       Ive been cheerleading the magnificent Houthi for a while now they are so obviously the bravest tribe on earth to my mind in the battle against the Saudi's with their brittish and American backers to now against Israel with their American backers .To stand rock solid against tyrany regardless of personal cost and for a higher motive is surely to be applauded

       As for their other scraps i freely admit to knowing nothing of beside religion is always dividing into new or different forms whence the killing might commence this is what religion itself does and of course "god "is always on your "side "

       [Please fix your handle, thanks – Incognito]

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       • Incognito 1.2.1.1

         13 January 2025 at 11:46 am

         Mod note

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     • gsays 1.2.2

       13 January 2025 at 11:26 am

       If yr truly worried about what counts, whataboutism doesn't cut the mustard when minimising genocide.

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   • Belladonna 1.3

     13 January 2025 at 11:18 am

     And the ongoing genocide in Sudan (tens of thousands killed – more than 11 million displaced) continues – but seems to attract little attention from TS commenters.

     https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/1/7/us-says-sudans-rsf-committed-genocide-announces-sanctions-on-leaders

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     • Muttonbird 1.3.1

       13 January 2025 at 11:51 am

       Certainly after reading that I now fully agree with you that the US/Israeli coalition bombing civilian targets in Sana'a is justified…

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       • Belladonna 1.3.1.1

         13 January 2025 at 12:22 pm

         But the bombing of civilian targets in Sudan is justified?

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     • Incognito 1.3.2

       13 January 2025 at 11:51 am

       […] but seems to attract little attention from TS commenters.

       Your point?

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       • Belladonna 1.3.2.1

         13 January 2025 at 12:21 pm

         My point is that … strangely… only the reported genocide in Gaza is worthy of posting/commenting from TS commenters. Reported genocides from other areas appear to not be worthy to be mentioned.

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         • Incognito 1.3.2.1.1

           13 January 2025 at 12:38 pm

           You’re making assumptions about the views of TS commentariat without making clear what your view is on the topic.

           You also make the incorrect assumption that absence of evidence is evidence of absence.

           This begs the question why you’re raising this pseudo-point here with obvious innuendo – you’re implying something, so just come out and say it unless you’re concern trolling.

           In any case, you have overlooked this comment from only 2 days ago: https://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-11-01-2025/#comment-2020977. I wonder what else you’ve overlooked to draw your straw man.

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2. dv 2

   13 January 2025 at 8:20 am

   GEEZ

   https://www.nzherald.co.nz/topic/donald-trump/

   This is one of the worst catastrophes in the history of our Country. They just can’t put out the fires. What’s wrong with them?

   WHAT are you going to do about climate change then Donald

   Climate change is a scam>

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   • Jenny 2.1

     13 January 2025 at 11:25 am

     '

     The market will fix it.

     California Fires Expose a $1 Trillion Hole in US Home Insurance

     Homeowners in increasingly risky areas can’t obtain adequate coverage as insurers flee the state to avoid losses.

     January 9, 2025 at 7:00 AM GMT+13

     By Mark Gongloff

     https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2025-01-08/california-wildfires-expose-a-458-billion-hole-in-home-insurance

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     • Cricklewood 2.1.1

       13 January 2025 at 11:48 am

       Insurance or lack thereof is one of the fastest ways to drive change when it comes to building in locations which are poorly suited to intensive devolpment.

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     • Belladonna 2.1.2

       13 January 2025 at 12:32 pm

       Well, yes, it will.
       The inability to gain fire risk insurance coverage in areas which are highly prone to wildfires – is a very strong 'push' for people to exit those areas.

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       • Visubversa 2.1.2.1

         13 January 2025 at 12:50 pm

         As is already happening for areas subject to flooding, and for places subject to whatever risks Insurance companies decide they no longer want to cover.

         About 20 years ago the Insurance company I had been with for over a decade advised that they would not renew the cover on my 1930's house unless I could prove that there was not any scrim present. There was certainly no scrim and paper visible, and to be able to say that there was none I would have had to remove all the Bison Board that covered most of the walls.

         I shopped around for an alternative and got good cover through a company which had an arrangement with my Union – cover which I still have today. I can now say that there is no scrim as the interior was all Gib boarded a few years ago.

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3. Muttonbird 3

   13 January 2025 at 8:37 am

   Am pleased for Melanie Nelson her "constitutional straitjacket" description of the Regulatory Standards Bill is getting headline attention even if on the last day of submissions.

   Although Lillian Hanly in the original RNZ article calls her Melanie Wilson (I assume it's the same person because of the quotes I've read), which somewhat undermines both Lillian Hanly and Melanie Nelson*.

   https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/538784/regulatory-standards-bill-slammed-as-dangerous-call-for-alarm-bells

   https://www.nzherald.co.nz/kahu/alarm-bells-need-to-ring-concerns-over-regulatory-standards-bill/XVEYKMMEYRD2VP63XKBIPIHNOQ/

   *Now fixed in the RNZ article but not in the Herald version. Busy morning for Lillian…

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   • Incognito 3.1

     13 January 2025 at 9:03 am

     I’m pleased for New Zealand that this is finally getting some last-minute attention – the article seems to have been put together last-minute as well and offers nothing new, but it’s at least something.

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     • Obtrectator 3.1.1

       13 January 2025 at 10:50 am

       Not in the Post, though. Only four letters today; one about The Donald, the other three dealing with the TPB:
       https://www.thepost.co.nz/nz-news/360544547/post-letters-editor-january-10
       (you have to subscribe to read them in full)

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4. georgecom 4

   13 January 2025 at 11:35 am

   Initial consultation on David Spendmores proposed Regulatory Standards Bill closes midnight tonight. Submissions can be made here
   I made a simpliest of submissions opposing the narrow set of criteria Seymour wants considered – neoliberal property rights and individualism – and want a wider range of criteria considered such as environmental, social and TOW. Put those in and make them part of any consideration and it might actually defeat some of seymours odious legislation.

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5. Muttonbird 5

   13 January 2025 at 12:15 pm

   Brutal assessment of "drop-nuts" Luxon:

   He appears wholly incurious about Māori history, language, culture and the role of the Treaty in New Zealand’s past – even removing a mention of local land wars from a draft speech to the Koroneihana in August. Perhaps that’s because of his long spell overseas, although you can still read a book offshore.

   How else do you explain his casual bargaining away of its principles in coalition negotiations, regardless of the ramifications on social cohesion? He couldn’t even be bothered to read a draft of the bill when it was first put before Cabinet.

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