Breakfast is on us

Written By: - Date published: 7:34 am, October 30th, 2009 - 21 comments
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tvnz7Check out the invite we got to ‘Plain English’. Incredible.

I didn’t even know until watching the Campbell Live story that David Cunliffe and Roger Douglas will be in the debate too. They’re not even mentioned  in the invite. But English is and there’s a picture of him. In fact, he’s portrayed alongside Guyon in the same pose – like they’re both trusted news sources.

Then there’s the subtext of the whole ‘debate’. It’s Cunliffe (who’s pretty damn centrist) respresenting the Left, Douglas the most economically right-wing MP representing the Right, and English with his mate Guyon the calm voices in the centre. The Greens don’t even get a look in, despite having more seats than ACT.

This whole things has clearly been cooked up by the pro-National leadership at TVNZ (and Guyon is openly pro-National when he doesn’t think anyone but Tories is listening) in cooperation with English. It stinks.

Anyway, the invite doesn’t say how many people we can take, so consider yourselves all invited as part of The Standard‘s party and go along. If you’re not going to get news from the bastards, you may as well have a free breakfast.

21 comments on “Breakfast is on us ”

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  1. So Bored 1
    30 October 2009 at 7:59 am

    He who frames the questions frames the debate…..if Cunliffe and Labour had any sense they would declare that this was a heist and refuse to have anything to do with it.

    • Tigger 1.1
      30 October 2009 at 8:41 am

      It’s pretty much damned if you participate, damned if you don’t here.

      Using the picture of English is utterly bizarre. Promotion in TV is about promoting your stars, your personalities. You never put a picture of someone on anything unless you’re trying to sell it. The only conclusion is that they are promoting National.

  2. So Bored 2
    30 October 2009 at 8:01 am

    He who frames the questions frames the debate. If Labour has any sense they would declare this was a heist and refuse to have anything to do with it.

  3. vto 3
    30 October 2009 at 8:15 am

    Thanks for the invite but I wont be able to make it. Auckland’s too far away and isolated.

  4. spot 4
    30 October 2009 at 8:29 am

    “the pro-National leadership at TVNZ…”

    Eddie, how does one go about identifying a ‘pro-National’ leadership ?

    • Michael Foxglove 4.1
      30 October 2009 at 8:43 am

      You check as to whether they’ve hooked up hours worth of free political advertising for the National government.

      So I think Eddie made an objective deduction in this case.

      • Daveski 4.1.1
        30 October 2009 at 9:00 am

        Funny how KB believes all media are card carrying commies.

        Actually, change the key characters (boom, boom), change blue to red, and go back a couple of weeks and this could be a carbon copy of one of DPF’s posts that were widely derided here.

        Anyway. Rodders is doing his bit to run cover.

        • Pascal's bookie 4.1.1.1
          30 October 2009 at 9:08 am

          Got a link to one of them derided posts, (or better yet some of the derision)?

          Just so we can compare the merits.

        • Marty G 4.1.1.2
          30 October 2009 at 9:16 am

          There’s no need to be overly simplistic about it. Obviously individuals have there biases and that goes for political editors too.

          – Brent Edwards, Vernon Small, and Duncan Garner are lefties

          – The Espiners, Audrey Young, Tracey Watkins, John Armstrong are righties – and so are the editors of all the major dailies and the bulk of the rest of the msm political commentariat including O’Sullivan, Plunkett, Jessica Mutch etc etc, Campbell is left of course.

          There’s no trick to identifying if a media personality is left or rightwing, there’s the same markers as an ordinary person.

          Plus, we’ve got some rather interesting quotes from Guyon, but we’ll keep them up our sleeves for now.

          • spot 4.1.1.2.1
            30 October 2009 at 9:29 am

            Well said Marty, but is that the ‘leadership’ Eddie is referring to ?

            What of the Exec and the Board – known leanings, active bias, proven behaviours ?

            Michael – I think it boils down to whether you view the programming as having public-service merit (TVNZ7’s role), and if so, has it clearly crossed that fine line and breached the bounds of fairness and balance etc etc.

            In my view, an unwise, immature and ill-advised approach to programming promotion…..always look for c*ck-up over conspiracy in TVNZ….

            ..you need to be smart to run conspiracy…..

          • Nick J 4.1.1.2.2
            30 October 2009 at 1:41 pm

            Vernon a lefty…….wasnt when I was associated with him via Labour party many decades since, very centrist, almost to quote lange combustible.

            • lprent 4.1.1.2.2.1
              30 October 2009 at 1:48 pm

              very centrist

              So am I. Your point is? Looks to me like you need to lose the labelling of people with little tags.

              I’m radical in the things I think that need to change. Conservative in things that I don’t think need changing. Progressive where I think it will change outcomes, regressive when I think it involves transfers of resources for no significant benefit for the country.

              I support Labour because they are markedly less stupid than National in one particular area. National has severe intellectual problems thinking out into the future. For that matter they seem to have a mythical view of the past as well.

              People who only live in the present are either stoned or eventual victims.

              This government to date has shown no ability to deal with the issues of the future. Consequently they are my victims….

            • Nick J 4.1.1.2.2.2
              30 October 2009 at 3:25 pm

              Iprent,

              Point taken, I will try to use more definite shades of grey in future labels.

          • Ari 4.1.1.2.3
            30 October 2009 at 2:01 pm

            Marty G, the closest thing to a lefty we have in the media is Chris Bloody Trotter, and he’s more of a socialist than a modern leftie.

            The others you refer to may be left-of-centre, but the closest you get to political commentary that swings left is on scoop.

  5. Smokie Joe 5
    30 October 2009 at 8:34 am

    Thanks Eddie, I’ve RSVPed.

  6. wyndham 6
    30 October 2009 at 9:09 am

    Has no-one drawn the connection between the English rollocking of TVNZ “management” over their coverage of the Dougle Dipton rort and their subsequent fawning to the political master?

  7. ConorJoe 7
    30 October 2009 at 12:57 pm

    man the buses, we gotta get a hikoi to this

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