Cmon Aussie …

Written By: - Date published: 10:48 am, August 18th, 2019 - 54 comments
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The Pacific Leaders’ Forum has occurred this week.

The area is the first to feel the effects of climate change. Increased intensity of storms and storm surges and rising sea levels are already making Pacific life hard.  The writing is on the wall for many low lying islands such as Tuvalu.

Their Prime Minister Enele Sopoaga has done an outstanding job at recent UN Conferences and has persuaded most of the world to sign up to working to stop global temperatures increasing by no more than 1.5 degrees.  Although the Americans showed up at the latest conference arguing the benefits of coal.

You may have a sense of puzzlement about why Pacific leaders are still having to debate how climate change is an existential threat to their nations.  Because it is.  They can see their fisheries wilt, their coral reefs die and their islands disappear before their eyes.

But Australia still wants to argue the toss.  And caused the normally peaceful Pacific Leader’s forum to descend into chaos.

From the Guardian:

Critical talks at the Pacific Islands Forum almost collapsed twice amid “fierce” clashes between the Australian prime minister, Scott Morrison, and Tuvalu’s prime minister, Enele Sopoaga, over Australia’s “red lines” on climate change.

Ralph Regenvanu, Vanuatu’s foreign minister, who was part of the drafting committee of the forum communique and observed the leaders’ retreat, said there was heated discussion over the Australian delegation’s insistence on the removal of references to coal, setting a target of limiting global warming to below 1.5C and announcing a strategy for zero emissions by 2050.

He described the discussions as “frank, fierce at times, [with] very strong positions being held”.

“Negotiations almost broke down twice, [with leaders] saying ‘this is not going to happen, we’re not going to have a collective decision’,” he said. Leaders had to take a break from proceedings, which started about 9.30am local time and lasted for almost 12 hours.

“That’s why it took so long,” Regenvanu said. “When things break down, you know there’s a huge amount of frustration, luckily it didn’t break all the way down and the leaders were able to bring it back.”

Things became that bad that the Tongan leader shed tears.

Jacinda Ardern was praised for her role in trying to resolve tensions:

“[Jacinda Ardern] was much more compromising. She was really good yesterday. She said the right things about climate change and Morrison did not,” said Bainimarama.

Then former rugby coach and stale male and pale shock jock Alan Jones took things to a new height by calling Ardern a clown and suggesting Morrison “shove a sock down her throat”.  Banimarana responded firmly.

This tweet has support from unusual sources.

But wait there was more.

Jones doubled down on his comments and said that Ardern “has no idea what she’s talking about”.  Then a number of people responded in the best way to oppose this click bait manufactured controversy.  They attacked his funding by contacting his show’s sponsors.  After ME Bank pulled out the writing is on the wall.  Jones has been issued with a final warning and any further comments will see his contract cancelled.

Please note.  The best way to deal with misogynist shock jocks is to attack their funding.  Let their sponsors know that what they are saying is deeply offensive as well as being wrong.

But you do have to wonder how many chances Jones will get.  He previously said that Julia Gillard’s father would have been ashamed of her shortly after his death.  Jones seems to have a thing about younger intelligent and articulate progressive women.

Then deputy Prime Minister Michael McCormack went all hold my beer on it and said the Pacific Islands will survive because they pick Australia’s fruit.  Yep.  You read this right.

His reported comments are:

“I also get a little bit annoyed when we have people in those sorts of countries pointing the finger at Australia and say we should be shutting down all our resources sector so that, you know, they will continue to survive,” he said.

“They will continue to survive, there’s no question they’ll continue to survive and they’ll continue to survive on large aid assistance from Australia.

“They’ll continue to survive because many of their workers come here and pick our fruit, pick our fruit grown with hard Australian enterprise and endeavour and we welcome them and we always will.

“But the fact is we’re not going to be hijacked into doing something that will shut down an industry that provides tens of thousands of jobs, that provides two-thirds of our energy needs … and I’m only talking coal, let alone all of our other resources.”

I still do not get the right’s infatuation with coal.  The only reason that I can see its support is that it is a vital weapon in the culture wars, and is able to turn some workers away from the left through fear of losing their jobs masked with an anti intellectualism veneer.  Because it’s use makes no environmental sense and increasingly no financial sense.

54 comments on “Cmon Aussie …”

  1. MickeyBoyle 1

    Whether you agree or not. The Morrison government promised to end the left's supposed war on coal and were then overwhelmingly elected against all pre election night polls and opinions. The Australian majority want coal jobs and coal fired power plants, and that is what they democratically voted for. 

    • mickysavage 1.1

      A small minority of traditional Labour voters went for the conservatives because of perceived self interest. Most people realise that coal is poison to the environment and we need to get away from it as soon as possible.

      • greywarshark 1.1.1

        It is government's job to collect and collate the evidence and know the true situation and explain that and the effects of various possible policies.

        This is what should be done and yet often not.   Brexit is one example.  The citizens can be lied to if it suits the individuals in power to do so, and they are like insiders on the stock market.   They can take advantage of their special knowledge and reap some rewards from the outcome of their policies, and then when matters go bump, they can be away from it and have a handy get out of jail card which somehow puts responsibility on the previous opposition.

      • MickeyBoyle 1.1.2

        There would be very few Australian one issue voters out there. But considering coal and energy security was arguably the coalition's number one policy, or at the least in their top three priorities. Voters were obviously either apathetic to coal, were not concerned with the government's approach towards it, or where happy with Morrisons plans moving forward. 

        • Mr Denmore 1.1.2.1

          What energy policy? They don't have one FFS. They've chewed through three prime ministers in six years arguing about. Australia's energy security has gotten worse, not better, as they've dilly-dallied, dancing to the tune of a fossil fuel sector who sees Australia as its last bastion in thwarting a post-coal transition. 

      • BG 1.1.3

        If coal is so poisonous then why are we importing Indonesia coal and stop looking for natural gas? 

        • Incognito 1.1.3.1

          Have you decided yet if you want to keep your commenting privilege here? It doesn’t bother me either way.

        • Andre 1.1.3.2

          Genesis Energy is importing coal because previous governments set in place rules and structures that mean Genesis acts to maximise profit to their shareholders (and compensation to their executives, but that's another topic), and New Zealand's national interest gets no consideration.

          Natural gas is extremely damaging too. That's a fkn good reason to stop looking for it. Less damaging than coal, yes, but still extremely damaging.

    • WeTheBleeple 1.2

      The Australian's were lied to. The Adani job numbers shrank dramatically upon election success. The campaign was low, dirty, based on falsities and pushing fear of others, others being people who want to help save the world in this instance. Divide and destroy, what a pack of winners.

      https://medium.com/@TheAustraliaInstitute/explained-adanis-continuously-changing-jobs-figures-e2a67baac540

      https://www.watoday.com.au/federal-election-2019/cheap-shots-grubby-politics-and-the-nostalgia-of-campaigns-long-past-20190514-p51nbr.html

      I hope to see this type of politics made illegal, as it's disrespectful to voters and at best still fraudulent.

      • Wayne 1.2.1

        How would you make all the contested statements during elections illegal, without destroying the concept of free speech?

        There are always going to be different views on issues. For instance the Australian Institute can't be right. No coal mine in the world that is the size of Adani employs as few as 100 people.

        In any event this my point, these things are contested, with a range of views, especially as it relates to a future situation. 

        The idea is that wrong statements are picked up by the other side of the debate. That is whole point of fact checking. And if one person is consistently lying, then their opponents will call them out, along with the media. 

        • aj 1.2.1.1

          The idea is that wrong statements are picked up by the other side of the debate. That is whole point of fact checking. And if one person is consistently lying, then their opponents will call them out, along with the media. 

          Not the Murdoch media empire. A compliant media is a big part of the problem

        • Stuart Munro. 1.2.1.2

          We've all seen how the Gnats exploit a false 'freedom of opinion' to defend their utter nonsense from objective critique Wayne. That's not healthy democratic functioning. 

          In a healthy democracy a party like the Gnats would purge its habitual liars and fight its corner truthfully. They'd never win that way of course, they don't know squat about economics or anything else come to that, and the purge has gone the other way – Mailyn Waring may have been the last conscientious Gnat – contemporary ones will tell any lie they think will get them a moment of media attention – they are contemptible.

          • Wayne 1.2.1.2.1

            Stuart Munro

            You have been saying for years that all National does is lie. And that they are contemptible. Well that’s just your opinion. I happen to disagree.

            Just because National believes in different things to you does not make them liars.

            And it is not how the two major parties conduct their political relationship. They essentially contest issues on the basis of ideological conviction. And on some major things they’ve basically agree (National Super, the basic structure of the economy, most aspects of foreign policy, and many others).

            It is why New Zealand has such high international rankings on political stability, freedom, corruption, etc.

            You would have both sides at each other’s throats on the basis they had no trust or respect for each. That they thought the other side was not just wrong, but also bad. With relatively few exceptions that is not how politics are conducted in this country.

            You can see that in the way the Leaders of the major parties interact with each, not just now but for the last 35 years. There is a basic respect for each other. Not perfect, or subject to tension, but generally there. You can easily discern it after they leave politics. National supported Helen Clark for the UN Sec Gen, the fact that Sir Michael Cullen was appointed to various Boards, the fact that Jim Bolger has been appointed to various things by Labour. 

            Your approach would destroy the basic political and social compact of this country. Which would benefit us how?

            • Drowsy M. Kram 1.2.1.2.1.1

              "Your approach would destroy the basic political and social compact of this country. Which would benefit us how?"

              Wayne, on the continuum of improving-to-preserving-to-destroying the basic political compact of NZ, where would you place the ‘approach’ of those behind the activities detailed in "Dirty Politics"? 

              Were those activities, sponsored at the highest levels of government, intended to improve or to destroy the basic political compact, or were the those activities largely neutral as far as the basic political compact is concerned?

              The idea of service as a public good is largely lost.  The first question now is not whether an initiative is worthwhile, but rather how will it benefit me, and how much it will cost – “for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.

            • Stuart Munro. 1.2.1.2.1.2

              "Just because National believes in different things to you does not make them liars."

              Just so – it's the lying that makes you a pack of liars Wayne.

              Straighten up and fly right and I won't be obliged to point out your innumerable shortcomings.

              If you don't straighten up, any ordinary person is obliged to conclude that you are as much strangers to the truth as you are to competence and common decency.

              No, I wouldn’t have you at each others throats, I would have you clean up your act, until you do it you are unfit to be in parliament.

          • New view 1.2.1.2.2

            Stuart. What a dopey unsubstantiated biased unintelligible pathetic insulting and boring comment. In my opinion of course. 

            Am new view 

            [Can you please stick to one user name on this site – Incognito]

        • reason 1.2.1.3

          The pie in the sky job numbers touted ,,, when Sir Kiddy Killing Key   did one of his 'deals' ,,,,, for the benefit  of the money laundering Auckland casino …. stunk like a rigged bidding process .,,, WeTheBleeple  is correct,,,,, or we will end up like right wing  lawless Brazil.

          CoIncidentally ,,,, Sir Kiddy Killing Key  ,,, KKK, reflects wayne Double Dipper mapps attitude to the People of Afghanistan.

          I've been waiting quite a while for Wayne to show any tangible  proof of remorse to the people  he had a hand in harming and defaming ,,,, Like an apology or compensation to his victims.

          White subpremacist have a love affair with Israel …. Mutual hate of Muslims you see … 

          Israel's success in making its war on Palestinians a global cause, shared among far-right ideologues worldwide is not just a danger to world peace, but a precursor for more deadly violence, from Gaza to Quebec to Christchurch.

          https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/hating-muslims-loving-zionists-israel-model-190322145619468.html

          https://www.globalresearch.ca/israeli-pm-set-to-attend-inauguration-of-brazils-bolsonaro-highlighting-likud-support-for-ethno-nationalist-politicians-abroad/5658828

          [Straight back to your old habits? Please stay on topic and don’t attack other commenters with potentially defamatory comments – Incognito]

          [lprent: Next time I see you mention anything that I think is clearly defamatory like this comment, then you are off the site permanently and in any aliases as well. You’l also be in my list of people who never get unbanned.

          I don’t like pig-ignorant arseholes, and at present I can’t see any difference between you and Slater or Nottingham.

          Banned for two months. ]

          • Incognito 1.2.1.3.1

            See my Moderation note @ 2:57 PM.

          • Wayne 1.2.1.3.2

            Reason (a misnomer if there was ever one!)

            Apart from your usual abuse, what double dipping?

            For instance I did not apply for the travel subsidy while I worked at the Law Commission, precisely because I thought I should not receive remuneration from the government and also get a government paid travel subsidy.

            While I should expect a retraction from you, I know I won’t get it, more likely just additional abuse.

        • Mr Denmore 1.2.1.4

          Adani is not a viable mine. It is a stranded asset. Don't ask the Greens. Ask the banks. No-one will lend to them which is why all the supposed libertarian, scorched earth capitalists in the government have suddenly transformed into statist socialists in the aid of the coal industry. This is a con, conceived and paid for by a corrupt coal industry in a last-ditch bid to save itself from the march of cheaper, more efficient renewables. The Morrison government is full of equally corrupt politicians, owned by the coal lobby and directed by the dominant Murdoch media, which sponsors the denialist line. The facts on coal and climate change are not contested. Ask the financial markets. Coal companies are going bust globally. This pitch in Australia is the last stand by a minority who have bought and sold our politicians and are intent on wrecking the planet in the process. On blogs like this, you see the same talking points from web-bots cropping up again and again. The disinformation is just another tool in the arsenal of a deeply cynical industry whose sponsors need to be exposed and dealt with, hopefully in our lifetimes.

          • mickysavage 1.2.1.4.1

            Well put. Even from this side of the Tasman Amani is clearly a trash the planet sort of project with nothing going for it, even fiscally. Otherwise why would Government need to fund it?

          • Poission 1.2.1.4.2

              The facts on coal and climate change are not contested

            They are problematic if not only for the unstated reasons eg Hansen 2013.(The Faustian bargain.

            We suggest that the huge post-2000 increase of uptake by the carbon sinks implied by figure 3 is related to the simultaneous sharp increase in coal use (figure 1). Increased coal use occurred primarily in China and India (Boden et al 2012; BP 2012; see graphs at http://www.columbia.edu/~mhs119/Emissions/Emis_moreFigs/). Satellite radiance measurements for July–December, months when desert dust does not dominate aerosol amount, yield an increase of aerosol optical depth in East Asia of about 4% yr-1 during 2000–2006 (van Donkelaar et al 2008). Associated gaseous and particulate emissions increased rapidly after 2000 in China and India (Lu et al 2011, Tian et al 2010). Some decrease of the sulfur component of emissions occurred in China after 2006 as wide application of flue-gas desulfurization began to be initiated (Lu et al 2010), but this was largely offset by continuing emission increases from India (Lu et al 2011).

            We suggest that the surge of fossil fuel use, mainly coal, since 2000 is a basic cause of the large increase of carbon uptake by the combined terrestrial and ocean carbon sinks. One mechanism by which fossil fuel emissions increase carbon uptake is by fertilizing the biosphere via provision of nutrients essential for tissue building, especially nitrogen, which plays a critical role in controlling net primary productivity and is limited in many ecosystems (Gruber and Galloway 2008). Modeling (e.g., Thornton et al 2009) and field studies (Magnani et al 2007) confirm a major role of nitrogen deposition, working in concert with CO2 fertilization, in causing a large increase in net primary productivity of temperate and boreal forests. Sulfate aerosols from coal burning also might increase carbon uptake by increasing the proportion of diffuse insolation, as noted above for Pinatubo aerosols, even though the total solar radiation reaching the surface is reduced.

            https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/8/1/011006/meta

            Half of  the Australian emission increase come's from a single,the Gorgon Lng plant in WA.from which the CO2 reinjection is supposed to capture 80%.

            https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/nov/14/half-of-australias-emissions-increase-linked-to-was-gorgon-lng-plant

    • Stuart Munro. 1.3

      I don't think that's quite true. I'm sure they want jobs, but they'd be just as happy with other reasonably rewarding work. And, they probably don't want some of the problems associated with global warming – higher summer temperatures, increased drought, river die-offs, increased fire risks.

      Ideally, governments give their constituents, not what they want, but what they'd want if they were fully informed in regard to costs and benefits. Of course this is often abused, both through ignorance at the government or civil service level, or through the corruption of democratic institutions through commercial sponsorship. I expect that the enthusiasm for coal is commercially inspired, albeit with some support from voters cynical of Liberal/National ability or intention to create decent jobs outside least effort enterprises like mining.

      Once AGW is accepting as a genuine problem, there is quite a lot Australia might wish to do to mitigate its impacts, which could generate quite a lot of long term reasonably skilled jobs.

    • "The Australian majority want coal jobs". Your source?

      A few hundred jobs, if that will be created by the Adani mine, assuming it ever goes ahead and I would wager it won't. In the meantime, 70,000 jobs, many related to the tourism and service sectors, are at risk in Queensland from the demise of the Great Barrier Reef.

      The LNP won the election, based on outright lies about Labor 'death taxes', promulgated on Facebook by the same forces that led to Trump and Brexit. In Queensland, Clive Palmer's astro-turfed 'party' split the conservative vote and led second preference votes back to the LNP. The rest came from Pauline Hanson's neo-fascist movement. Palmer spent more than $60 million on advertising, as a downpayment on getting fast-track approval for his coal deposit, right next to the Carmichael mine. 

      Outside Queensland and Western Australia, Labor won the election. In fact, the biggest swings to Labor were in nominally safe Liberal Party seats in the urban centres of Sydney and Melbourne. In short, the vast bulk of Australians voted FOR action on climate change and FOR the transition from fossil fuels. 

      I see this disinformation from web-bots like you, mate, all over the internet. 

  2. greywarshark 2

    Why should Alan Jones lose his job.   He is just saying what many Oz people are thinking, or will be after he has said it.  

    • MickeyBoyle 2.1

      Jones is going nowhere, he's one of the most highly rated commentators in Australia, who is across all media platforms.

      • Anne 2.1.1

        … he's one of the most highly rated commentators in Australia, who is across all media platforms.

        You mean he's a misogynistic, mean minded, ignorant Aussie dinosaur who appeals to other misogynistic, mean minded, ignorant Aussie dinosaurs of which they have more than their fair share.

      • peterh 2.1.2

        Jones is Aussies Hosking. the most liked and also the most disliked just depends which side of the fence your on

      • Mr Denmore 2.1.3

        Jones has 19% of the breakfast radio audience. But who listens to breakfast radio. People with one foot in the grave mainly. Of the 677,000 people who listen to 2GB at some point every week, almost 300,000 are older than 64. His audience is dying. They spend more money on funeral insurance and not much else. His supposed influence is in the heads of politicians.

    • Gabby 2.2

      Cos he's a twohanded wanker grazy.

    • Wensleydale 2.3

      I don't think Alan 'Dribbling Imbecile' Jones should lose his job. I do think he should be ridiculed into obscurity though.

  3. Pat 3

    "I still do not get the right’s infatuation with coal."

    Think you will find support for coal is not the preserve of the right….and surely you understand the desire for power, influence and money?

  4. aj 4

    …”Alan Jones took things to a new height depth…”

    FIFY

  5. Reality 5

    I have heard Jones on the radio when I have been in Australia.  He comes over as someone who needs a mental health assessment.  When Julia Gillard was PM he would say the most disgusting personal things about her appearance.  It never ceases to amaze that people like him, who are no George Clooney lookalikes themselves, think they can make personal and vile comments about women. They just don’t like smart, articulate women.  Women in their world should only be making the scones and cups of tea.

    • Wensleydale 5.1

      Yeah, he does seem to have a particular bee in his bonnet about women in positions of authority who also happen to oppose his ideology. They're all simpering hyper-emotional ninnies who should get back to the embroidery and leave the real business of continuing to ruin the planet to embittered old vultures like him. First class arsehole basically.

  6. Muttonbird 6

    Incredible that twice coup leader and strongman Frank Bainimarama is managing to make Australian political leadership look unfit and backward.

    What is it about climate change issues which send RWNJs so crazy?

    • Anne 6.1

      What is it about climate change issues which send RWNJs so crazy?

      Because they've been cc deniers for decades and they can't handle being shown to be wrong. So they hate all those people -scientists,climatologists, meteorologists and people in power who are far more intelligent then them – and the only way they know how to get back at them is to make vicious, personal attacks against them. 

      What they don't realise is they show themselves up for being the ignorant, entitled, brain deficient idiots most of them are. And of course the most famous of them is the f*****t who currently graces the Oval Office.

      • OnceWasTim 6.1.1

        🙂 "What they don't realise is they show themselves up for being the ignorant, entitled, brain deficient idiots most of them are. And of course the most famous of them is the f*****t who currently graces the Oval Office" 🙂

        Now tell us what you really think.

        I'm not sure why it is that NZers maintain this romantic notion of Australia (and I say so as once having held an Australian passport).  That spirit of brotherhood based on an 'ANZAC spirit' that gets wheeled out once a year. (And btw, if you ever watch OZ media coverage of ANZAC day, it's usually as though NZ wasn't a participant)

        Over the past 50 years, things have evolved from NZ being seen as another state of OZ – with somewhat less rivalry between say VIC and NZ or NSW and NZ than there was between VIC and NSW – to our now being seen as somewhat lesser beings than the exceptional okker. 

        It really is time to leave it alone and forge our own way, and if NZ's economic refugees still want to try their luck across the ditch in pursuit of higher wages, or a spot on "the GC', more fucking fool them. I can think of better places.

        Fuk 'em.  They even spent years bowling underarm over bloody apples ffs! 

    • Wensleydale 6.2

      Follow the money. It's always and forever about the money.

  7. PapaMike 7

    Why are we still importing coal from Indonesia via Tauranga ?

    • Bg 7.2

      Shhhsss…Jacinda made a captains call to ruin our own oil and gas industry, just so we can import more coal, adding even more carbon to the world just to ship it here.

      Only on Planet Woke does that make sense.

      [Making up stupid shit like that is a sure sign of a troll. Please provide evidence for your claim that shows it is not a planet orbiting a tiny wee black hole at the centre of your otherwise empty skull or you can embark on a long space travel to Planet Woke. You have until tomorrow morning because it might take you a while to find it or retract your comment – Incognito]

      [It seems you were indeed just trolling given that you have not responded to the moderation note. I wish you a pleasant journey to Planet Woke and we might see you again in a fortnight – Incognito]

  8. Alice Tectonite 8

    Talking about 1.5 degrees is a hopelessly optimistic distraction. Highly likely that more than that is already locked in …

  9. Jenny - How to Get there? 9

    The upside of climate change.

    Cheap slave wage workers.

    They’ll continue to survive because many of their workers come here and pick our fruit, pick our fruit grown with hard Australian enterprise and endeavour and we welcome them and we always will.

    Michael McCormack

    And we always will…. take advantage!



  10. Exkiwiforces 10

    The only time Jonesy makes any sense is his Friday rant in the Australian Newspaper about the current state of Australia Rugby Union and the sad thing is he is right. Heck even my dad who can't stand him at the best of times apart from his time as the Wallabies coach, agrees with him on the state of the ARU.

  11. Formerly Ross 11

    Jones seems to have a thing about younger intelligent and articulate progressive women.

    Julia Gillard progressive? She was bitterly opposed to gay marriage and it took her departure from politics before she came to the realisation that gay marriage wasn’t such a bad idea. 

    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/julia-gillard-changes-mind-to-support-samesex-marriage-20150826-gj8k24.html

    • Drowsy M. Kram 11.1

      "bitterly opposed" – how so?  That word isn't used in the linked SMH article.

  12. soddenleaf 12

    Jones declares they should pick fruit in China! Does he get money from China? China is expanding into the Pacific and Jones is putting oz to sleep on the issue.

    It's obvious we need a free trade agreement across the Pacific, like the nz-oz, free movement of people, services, trade. That way oz have a choice migration or coal; freedom or China.

    Big coal is dependant, a proxy for China in oz, Liberals are selling oz out.

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    South African coach Rassie Erasmus says he has no idea what they’re going to do about the boat. In a highly anticipated press conference this afternoon, All Blacks coach Steve Hansen has finally unveiled the team’s boat for its Rugby World Cup 2019 campaign. In a press conference that went ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 days ago
  • An increasingly shoddy coverup
    The Operation Burnham inquiry continued to question senior NZDF staff today, and their shoddy coverup over their knowledge of civilian casualties continue to fall apart. If you recall, first, we were asked to believe that it was all a series of "mistakes and errors": a senior officer with multiple degrees ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago
  • If we are to avoid making the earth uninhabitable, we need to rapidly decarbonise our civilisation, and cut emissions to zero as quickly as possible. This seems like an impossible task, but its not. Pushing hard on a few technologies and trends will let us halve emissions in a decade:Greenhouse ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago
  • A further attack on transparency
    The Local Government Act 2002 Amendment Bill (No 2) had part of its committee stage yesterday. its a generally tedious bill about the nitty-gritty of local government reorganisation. But it includes a clause making the Local Government Commission subject to the Ombudsmen Act, and hence the OIA. Great! Except of ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago
  • Ihumātao and Treaty settlements
    Yesterday Ihumātao's mana whenua reached a consensus that they would like their land back, and asked the government to negotiate with Fletcher's for its return. The government's response? Try and undermine that consensus, while talking about how doing anything would undermine existing Treaty settlements. The first is just more bad ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago
  • Protecting our history
    Its Suffrage Day, the 126th anniversary of women winning the right to vote (but not stand in elections) in New Zealand. And to celebrate, the government has bought Kate Sheppard's house in Christchurch:The government has bought Kate Sheppard's former home in Christchurch for more than $4 million. The Ilam villa ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago
  • Climate Change: Ostracising the coal-burners
    The UN climate summit is happening in new York next week, and unlike previous years, coal-burners and denier-states are not being invited to speak:Leading economies such as Japan and Australia will not be invited to speak at next week’s crunch UN climate change summit, as their continued support for coal ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago
  • Jojo Tamihere Salutes Herr Goff.
    Get Back Jojo! The elation in Mayor Phil Goff’s camp may be easily imagined as they watched social media light up in indignation at challenger John Tamihere’s "Sieg Heil to that" quip. Just when JT’s notoriously right-wing, sexist and homophobic stains were beginning to fade back into his ‘colourful’ past, ...
    3 days ago
  • Hard News: A fun but flawed weed documentary
    Patrick Gower is good value when he's high. Not that I've ever, you know, got stoned with him. But in the second part of his documentary Patrick Gower on Weed, he does what you'd expect in a modern weed documentary and immerses himself – first with a doctor, then a ...
    3 days ago
  • Candidate Survey: Western Bay of Plenty – Local Body Elections 2019
    We surveyed candidates on their attitudes to issues facing the Western Bay Region, find out what they think: “Closing the Gap” Tauranga, one of the area groups of Income Equality Aotearoa NZ Inc., has surveyed all candidates in the three local body elections to discover attitudes to some basic issues ...
    Closing the GapBy Tracey Sharp
    3 days ago
  • Project Nettie calls on scientists to defend biology
    Please spread widely, and sign, to support science and rationalism over the new irrationalism sweeping universities and institutions.  PROJECT NETTIE Sexual reproduction, the generation of offspring by fusion of genetic material from two different individuals, evolved over 1 billion years ago. It is the reproductive strategy of all higher animals ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    3 days ago
  • I’m glad I don’t live in Auckland
    Just when I was thinking that Palmerston North's mayoral race (which includes a convicted child molester / public wanker and a convicted child beater) was the worst in the country, Auckland mayoral candidate John Tamihere opened his mouth:Auckland mayoral candidate John Tamihere is being slammed for using the words "sieg ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago
  • Index of Power Update, 2018-19: China #2
    We reprint below an article from the excellent website the Economics of Imperialism by Tony Norfield This is an update of the statistics for my Index of Power, using data for 2018-19 and discussing what a country’s ranking reflects. The major change is that China’s rank has shifted up and ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    3 days ago
  • Climate Change: A history lesson
    Why is New Zealand climate change policy so crap? The Herald this morning has a long article on the twists and turns of climate change policy in New Zealand [paywalled / depaywall script], which shows where we've been. The short version is that the government first began worrying about this ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • What the All Blacks Mean to Us
    The All Blacks have been, for more than a century, arguably the most successful International sports team in the world. But they are more than that; even for those Kiwis who are immune to the charms of rugby (and there are more than a few), the All Blacks are ambassadors ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    4 days ago
  • No one is born into the wrong body
    A short and incredibly powerful speech from a young lesbian woman. No one is born in the wrong body. ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    4 days ago
  • Contempt
    Back in June, the UK Court of Appeal ruled that that country's continued arms sales to Saudi Arabia were unlawful. So you'd expect that the UK government stopped approving them, right?Of course not:The government has apologised for breaching a court ruling against the sale of weapons to Saudi Arabia that ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • Covering up the cover-up
    Yesterday NZDF officials were put on the stand about the lies they had told over Operation Burnham, making implausible claims that it was all a big mistake. But along the way, we learned they had already been put on the spot about it by a previous Defence Minister, who had ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • Not as important as they think they are
    Farmers have been whining a lot lately, about the methane targets in the Zero Carbon Bill, about Canterbury's proposed nitrogen limits, and about the government's new proposals to stop them from shitting in our lakes and rivers. These policies are "throwing farmers under the tractor", they will force farmers off ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • Behind Every Good Woman Should Stand – Another Good Woman.
    Alone, Alone, All, All, Alone: To argue that the Prime Minister is the victim of her advisers’ failure to keep her informed may offer Jacinda some measure of exoneration – but only at the cost of casting her as a hopeless political ingénue. A star-dusted muppet, whose only purpose is to ...
    5 days ago
  • Poor quality, poorly educated kiddie ‘Journalists’ spreading fake news
    In times of hysteria about the “World coming to an end” and “rising sea levels” so-called ‘Journalists’ who can barely spell words longer than four letters are having a ball! Though the majority of the Public have worked out that manmade climate change is nothing short of pseudo-science, and the ...
    An average kiwiBy admin@averagekiwi.com
    5 days ago
  • Chris Trotter on the BFD
    I don't want to give pblicity to certain parts of the internet that are better left to fester in their own irrelevance (I know, a bit like this place) but the listing of Chris Trotter as a 'author' on Cameron Slater's spinoff website, the BFD requires some explanation.Now, I don't ...
    5 days ago
  • Sex is not a spectrum
    The text below is a Twitter thread by Heather Heying that explains the essence of sexual reproduction and it long evolutionary history. She is an evolutionary biologist and a “professor-in-exile” after she and her husband, Bret Weinstein, stood up to supporters of an enforced “Day of Absence” for white staff and teachers ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    5 days ago
  • Climate Change: Trees, aviation, and offsets
    With crunch time for new Zealand climate policy approaching, most of the New Zealand media have got on board with a global reporting effort to cover the issue. There's one strand of stories today about polling and what it shows about changing public attitudes to the crisis, but the strand ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • Pissing-Off The Israelis Is A High-Risk Strategy.
    Dangerous Foes: For those readers of Bowalley Road who feel disposed to dismiss any prospect of an Israeli destabilisation of New Zealand politics, the example of the United Kingdom repays close attention. Ever since the election of Jeremy Corbyn as leader of the British Labour Party, the Israelis have sanctioned, funded and ...
    5 days ago
  • Something to go to in Wellington
    Make It 16, the youth-led campaign to lower New Zealand's voting age, is holding an official campaign launch at Parliament this Friday from 16:30. If you'd like to attend, you can register using EventBrite here. ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • A founding member responds to Peace Action Wellington
    by Don Franks It was a lovely sunny Wellington afternoon with blue skies above  the beaches.  In Courtenay Place, political activists packed out a stuffy upstairs room for an important meeting. The assembled pacifists, anarchists, communists and independent young radicals of Peace Action Wellington felt the need for a mission ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    5 days ago
  • “Mistakes and errors”
    Current and former NZDF top brass are being publicly grilled this week by the hit and run inquiry over their public responses to allegations of civilian casualties. Previously, they've claimed there were no casualties, a position which led them to lie to Ministers and to the public. Now, they're saying ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • “Homosexuality is same-sex attraction and relationships, not heterosexuals with delusions of gende...
    by Rafael D. Quiles (gender-critical gay man from Puerto Rico) The writing on the wall is right in people’s faces and people just don’t see it or don’t want to. What could actually possess a heterosexual male to want to feminize himself and claim that he is a lesbian? Because ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    6 days ago
  • Trump: “Where’s my favourite dictator?”
    From the Wall Street Journal:Inside a room of the ornately decorated Hotel du Palais during last month’s Group of Seven summit in Biarritz, France, President Trump awaited a meeting with Egyptian President Abdel Fattah Al Sisi. Mr. Trump looked over a gathering of American and Egyptian officials and called out in ...
    6 days ago
  • Magdalen Burns, 1983-2019, fighter for women’s liberation
    by the Redline blog collective At Redline we are very saddened to hear of the death of Magdalen Burns who passed away on the morning of Friday, September 13 (British time). Magdalen was a great fighter for the rights of women in general and lesbian women in particular, a defender ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    1 week ago
  • Parliament and the Executive
    The Brexit issue has certainly brought with it a series of apparently difficult constitutional issues, many of them concerning the respective roles of the executive and parliament. Most of them arise because of the unwillingness of MPs, despite their professions to the contrary, to be bound by a constitutional rarity ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    1 week ago
  • The Abigail Article; Martyn Bradbury’s Article, and My Response
    . . This blogpost is different to my usual format of reporting on issues… Since July 1011, I have blogged on a variety of political issues; near always political and/or environmental; mostly highly critical of the previous National Government. Other issues included Israeli occupation of Palestinian lands and repression of ...
    Frankly SpeakingBy Frank Macskasy
    1 week ago
  • Police will have to wear silly Buckingham Palace hats from now on, says Police Minister
    Those close to the Police Minister believe the initiative may be the result of Nash “seeing a great deal” on AliExpress. In a move that comes seemingly out of nowhere, Police Minister Stuart Nash announced this afternoon that he expects all frontline staff to don bearskin hats, famously worn by ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • A sensible crackdown
    The government has released its Arms Legislation Bill, containing the second tranche of changes to gun laws following the March 15 massacre. And it all looks quite sensible: a national gun register, higher penalties for illegal possession and dealing, tighter restrictions on arms dealers and shooting clubs, and a shorter ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • California bans private prisons
    Private prisons are a stain on humanity. Prison operators explicitly profit from human misery, then lobby for longer prisons terms so they can keep on profiting. And in the US, prison companies run not only local and state prisons, but also Donald Trump's immigration concentration camps. Faced with this moral ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Why PPPs are a bad idea
    When National was in power, they were very keen on Public-Private Partnerships (PPPs) - basicly, using private companies to finance public infrastructure as a way of hiding debt from the public. They were keen on using them for everything - roads, schools, hospitals. But as the UK shows, that "service" ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • A Movement That No Longer Moves.
    Moving And Shaking: There was a time when people spoke matter-of-factly about the “labour movement” – a political phenomenon understood to embrace much more than the Labour Party. Included within the term’s definition was the whole trade union movement – many of whose members looked upon the Labour Party as ...
    1 week ago
  • NZ ‘left’ politically embracing extreme postmodernism
    by Philip Ferguson Much of the left, even people who formally identify as marxists, have collapsed politically in the face of postmodern gender theory of the sort pioneered by American philosopher Judith Butler. For Butler even biological sex is socially constructed. “If the immutable character of sex is contested, perhaps ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • The obvious question
    The media is reporting that the (alleged) Labour party sexual assaulter has resigned from their job at Parliament, which means hopefully he won't be turning up there making people feel unsafe in future. Good. But as with everything about this scandal, it just raises other questions. Most significantly: why the ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • The moment I found out that you found out, I acted swiftly
    By Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern I am every bit as angry as you are. I am every bit as disappointed as you must be. The people with power, oversight and the ability to do something about these processes within the Labour Party should be ashamed. Whoever those people are, I ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • This is why people hate property developers
    Property developers think there is an "oversupply" of houses in Auckland:High turnover rates and falling prices may be a sign that there are too many new houses going in to some parts of Auckland, commentators say. [...] Property developer David Whitburn said there was a "bit of an oversupply" in ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Australia to Pacific: “Fuck you, you can all drown”
    World leaders are meeting in New York in two weeks for the 2019 Climate Action Summit, where they are expected to announce new and more ambitious targets to stop the world from burning. But the Australian Prime Minister won't be there, despite being in the USA at the time:Scott Morrison ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Implausible ignorance
    Labour Party president Nigel Haworth resigned yesterday over the party's sexual assault scandal. But while that's good news, its unlikely to take away the stench of a coverup. Because according to Paula Bennett in Parliament yesterday, pretty much everyone in the Prime Minister's office was involved as well:I have been ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Labour’s Fatal Flaw.
     Two-Faced? Labour insiders' commitment to the neoliberal status quo puts them at odds with their party’s membership; its trade union affiliates; and a majority of Labour voters, but this only serves to strengthen the perception they have of themselves as a special elite. Among the lesser breeds, they’ll talk up a ...
    1 week ago
  • Ten reasons the Tories do NOT want an election
    There has been a lot of talk about Boris Johnson wanting an election, and he has blustered with great gusto about 'chicken' Jeremy Corbyn refusing one, but I think there are many reasons why he is secretly glad he has been refused the opportunity:The Tories are an utter rabble,tearing themselves ...
    1 week ago
  • Prorogation Illegal, rule Scottish judges
    Scottish appeal court judges have declared that Boris Johnson’s decision to suspend parliament in the run-up to the October Brexit deadline is unlawful. The three judges, chaired by Lord Carloway, Scotland’s most senior judge, overturned an earlier ruling that the courts did not have the powers to interfere in the prime ...
    1 week ago
  • Let me explain what I meant by Everyday New Zealanders
    By Simon Bridges. The following is a press release from the office of Simon Bridges, leader of The National Party. Key ora, New Zealand. Happy Maori Language Week. Look, I’m writing to you today because I want to clear something up. There’s been a lot of kerfuffle around some things ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • Yes, the SIS is subject to the Public Records Act
    I understand there's some stuff going round about how the SIS "was removed from the list of public offices covered by the Public Records Act in 2017". The context of course being their records derived from US torture, which will be disposed of or sealed. The good news is that ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • An evidence-based discussion of the Canadian fluoride/IQ study
    Dr. Christopher Labos and Jonathan Jarry discuss the recent Canadian fluoride/IQ research. They provide an expert analysis of the paper and its problems. Click on image to go to podcast. The critical debate about the recent ...
    1 week ago
  • Climate Change: Australia in denial
    Australia is burning down again, and meanwhile its natural disaster minister is denying climate change:Australia’s minister responsible for drought and natural disasters, David Littleproud, has said that he doesn’t “know if climate change is manmade”. Clarifying earlier comments that the question is “irrelevant” when considering the Coalition government’s response to ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Philippines activist speaking on the Duterte tyranny
    Auckland Philippines Solidarity is excited to host Professor Judy Taguiwalo for a speaking tour of NZ in September. She is a well-known activist in the Philippines and was a political prisoner under the Marcos dictatorship. Professor Taguiwalo briefly served as a Cabinet member under President Duterte but was forced from ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    2 weeks ago
  • Disgust
    I have no special insights to offer on the Labour sexual assault coverup. All I have is disgust. Disgust that an organisation could fail its people so badly. Disgust that they punished the victims rather than the perpetrator. Disgust that its party hacks are apparently blaming the victims for demanding ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Speak Up for Women calls out Greens’ censorship
    This open letter to the Green Party was penned after an opinion piece by Jill Abigail, a feminist and founding member of the party, was censored by the Greens’ leadership. (Redline has reprinted her article here).The intolerance of the Green Party leaders and their acceptance of the misogyny of gender ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    2 weeks ago
  • Member’s Day: End of Life Choice, part 3
    Today is a Member's day, and David Seymour's End of Life Choice Bill continues its slow crawl through its committee stage. They're spending the whole day on it today, though the first hour is likely to be spent on voting left over from last time. After that they'll move on ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Flight to Los Angeles turned back after passengers decide they don’t want to go anymore
    An ambitious plan to fly to Los Angeles petered out into a brief sight-seeing trip and a desire to return home and get some sleep before work tomorrow. Air New Zealand has confirmed a flight to Los Angeles last night was turned back about a quarter of the way into ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Indigenous Futures: defuturing and futuring – an analytical framework for policy development?
    There appears to be consensus – by omission – that the concept of indigenous futures should be accepted at face value. So I scavenged the internet to see if I could locate an academic descriptor or a framework around how we think about it as a concept, and whether it ...
    EllipsisterBy Ellipsister
    2 weeks ago
  • Cadbury rumoured to be releasing the Pineapple Trump
    Here’s another novelty chocolate to shove in your gob, New Zealand Cadbury could be seeking to make itself great again with a rumoured new release: Pineapple Trumps, a spin on its classic chocolate-encased pineapple treat and do-it-yourself tooth remover. The global confectionery manufacturer and bumbling “before” character in an infomercial, ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • The coming resource war.
    During my time in the Pentagon I had the privilege of sitting down with military leaders and defence and security officials from a variety of Latin American nations. Sometimes I was present as a subordinate assistant to a senior US defence department official, sometimes as part of a delegation that ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    2 weeks ago
  • Māori Language Week with The Civilian
    Kia ora, Aotearoa. It’s that magical time of year. Te Wiki o te Reo Māori. In English, the week that frightens talk radio. As you probably know by now, all your favourite media outlets are participating, some more successfully than others. Stuff has changed its name to Puna for the ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Will Horizons act on climate change?
    Local body elections are coming up next month. And it looks like all Palmerston North candidates for Horizons (the Manawatu-Whanganui Regional Council) want to take action on climate change:Climate change is set to be a key issue in Palmerston North for the next three years if those wanting to get ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • BORA reform is stalled
    Eighteen months ago, the government promised to strengthen the Bill of Rights Act, by explicitly affirming the power of the courts to issue declarations of inconsistency and requiring Parliament to formally respond to them. So how's that going? I was curious, so I asked for all advice about the proposal. ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Corbyn and Brexit
    As the Brexit saga staggers on, the focus is naturally enough on the Prime Minister and his attempts to achieve Brexit “do or die”. But the role played by the Leader of the Opposition is of almost equal interest and complexity. The first problem for Jeremy Corbyn is that he ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    2 weeks ago
  • A ditch for him to die in
    Last week, English Prime Minister Boris Johnson boldly declared that he would rather die be dead in a ditch than delay Brexit. Unfortunately for him, the UK parliament accepted the challenge, and promptly dug one for him. The "rebellion bill" requires him to ask for and secure yet another temporary ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Warning! Warning! Danger Jacinda Ardern! Danger Marama Davidson! Warning!
    Lost In Political Space: The most important takeaway from this latest Labour sexual assault scandal, which (if I may paraphrase Nixon’s White House counsel’s, John Dean’s, infamous description of Watergate) is “growing like a cancer” on the premiership, is the Labour Party organisation’s extraordinary professional paralysis in the face of ...
    2 weeks ago

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