Daily Review 01/11/2017

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44 comments on “Daily Review 01/11/2017”

  1. garibaldi 1

    I have just got home from work and had a quick scroll through today’s Open Mike. It was really good to see so many women participating.

  2. One Anonymous Bloke 2

    BM, he’s nothing if not consistent:

    There was no youthquake, watching newshub a couple of days back they quickly blurted out that youth enrolments were actually down this year, before rapidly moving on to the next article

    Obviously, a bit embarrassing for newshub when the facts didn’t quite correspond with the narrative they were trying so hard to push.

    Meanwhile, on some other planet, young voter turnout up by 65%.

    This public service announcement was brought to you by the campaign for better wingnuts.

    • Muttonbird 2.1

      BM’s cat won’t thank you for that, OAB.

    • Andre 2.2

      Errm, that missing decimal point kinda matters.

      • Muttonbird 2.2.1

        Does it? It’s a typo which is corrected when you read the article.

        • Carolyn_nth

          I thought so at first, but nah.

          The turnout for the 18-24 age bracket rose from 62.7 per cent in 2014, to 69.3 per cent in 2017.

          Meanwhile, turnout for the 25-29 bracket rose from 62.1 per cent to 67.6 per cent, a 5.5 per cent jump.

          But it is confusing.

          • Muttonbird

            The 6.5% is the figure for 18-24 year olds which OAB has typo’d to 65% in the comment. The 5.5% figure is for 25-29 year olds which is still a very good increase for younger people.

            The future looks promising if we can engage those and more young people. It will help balance the over represented effect of largely conservative old people distorting the vote count toward National and their proxies.

            • One Anonymous Bloke

              To be fair, I misread the figure in the article and posted before checking it.

      • One Anonymous Bloke 2.2.2

        Oh bugger.

        6.5 was still enough 🙂

  3. Thatcher 3

    Good to see the new Minister of Defence kick Hager to touch;

    He also slammed recent media criticism of the military regarding high-profile cases, including the alleged involvement of the NZSAS in a 2010 strike that led to six civilian deaths in Afghanistan, and the Battle of Baghak.

    Mark said the military landscape had vastly changed.


    • tracey 3.1

      The police also tell us “that was then this is now we have changed our culture” when the next scandal is uncovered despite lots of attempts to shut it down.

      • rhinocrates 3.1.1

        1. There is no problem, the man is a liar besmirching the reputations of many good men and you are endangering morale and national security by spreading his lies!

        2. Actually, something slightly like that may have happened, but it was an isolated case, bad apples, in no way reflects on the good character and so on. Please watch this pretty Powerpoint where we show something completely irrelevant.

        3. We will allow an inquiry to show our innocence.

        4. We are not dragging our feet in co-operating with the inquiry. We promise the information requested last year will be delivered next year.

        5. The next next year.

        6. The next, really.

        7. Despite the inquiry roundly condemning us, in fact it exonerates us.

        8. There are some minor problems that need fixing according to the inquiry, which are vastly blown out of proportion. Moreover, our culture has changed and it is no longer relevant. We have no further comment to make.

        9. Repeat.

      • Zorb6 3.1.2

        How dare the Police steal the HH mission statement’.’That was then,this is now’!

    • One Anonymous Bloke 3.2

      The Police are responsible for investigating war crimes. The Minister of Justice and Attorney General probably would be in the loop. MoD would be informed, I’m sure.

      Separation of powers and all that.

    • The military landscape has changed – doesn’t mean that we should give a free pass to those who commit atrocities.

    • Exkiwiforces 3.4

      I think old Ronnie is going to rattle a few cages and I think a few home truths/ chickens will come home to roost in terms of this current governments NZ Defence/ Foreign policy, Vet affairs and some people here might not want hear or read about weather you are left or right of the political spectrum.

    • DoublePlusGood 3.5

      Ron Mark is just a nincompoop so in love with his new job he’s happy to excuse war crimes. Apparently you are also willing to excuse war crimes. This reflects poorly on you.

  4. Wairua 4

    Please, please, please .. spare us the Trumpismo !

  5. Macro 5

    Oh it’s all good at the Whitehouse – such a wonderful President!
    Only 49% of voters want to impeach him.

  6. One Anonymous Bloke 6

    That looks right to me. But so did 65.

    Either way it’s a good start 🙂

    • weka 6.1

      Was that a reply to me? I deleted it in a fit of shit did I get that really wrong.

      • One Anonymous Bloke 6.1.1

        Yes, it was a reply to you 🙂

        You can look at it both ways I think: as a percentage of the electorate, or as a percentage of the group in question, so long as you’re clear about it, which you were.

        • Carolyn_nth

          Actually, the 65% (approx) is the percentage of the age group. The 6.5% is the percentage increase for that age group: ie from 62.7% to 69.3% of that age group ie a 6.6% increase to be exact.

          • One Anonymous Bloke

            I think Weka’s saying that 6.6/62.7 x 100 = 10.5% of the original group.

            Not sure if making percentages of percentages is common, but hey, Maths is an art, after all 🙂

            • Carolyn_nth

              Ah. OK. Yes. Maths is a fun thing. But I see weka’s point and it makes sense…. to me.

              • weka

                Yes, I was looking at the increase on the first measurement, which I thought was 10.5%. So there were 10.5% more voters in that age bracket compared to 2014.

                But then I blanked on whether I could do that calculation with %s or if I had to use the raw numbers (%s of % throw me).

                • Andre

                  If you really want to make the numbers look good, talk about the decrease in non-voters, That’s dropped from 36.3% to 30.7%. That’s a 15.4% decrease in non-voters.

                  I’m trying to come up with wording so I can use 36.3/30.7 as my number, but I’m not there yet.

                  edit: ah, got it. There were 18.2% more non-voters in 2014 than in 2017

                  • One Anonymous Bloke

                    That’s another target Simon Lusk has missed.

                  • Andre

                    Oops, that should 37.3% and 30.7% non-voters. So the decrease in non-voters from 2014 to 2017 was 17.7%, or there were 21.5% more non-voters in 2014 than 2017.

                • Andre

                  Or to make the improvement look even better, in 2014 the ratio of voters to non-voters was 1.68 to 1, in 2017 it was 2.15 to one. That’s a 28% improvement in the ratio of voters to non-voters.

                  Manipulating numbers to fit a narrative is such fun!

          • solkta

            That’s an increase of 6.6 percentage points to be exact. Or a 10.5% increase in the number who voted.

  7. Andre 7

    Junior tries some political trash talk with his kid’s Halloween candy. Results are predictable…


  8. Zorb6 8

    Celebrate the new Govt.

  9. JC 9

    “According to UNESCO 932 journalists were killed for doing their job from 2006 to 2016. Worse, it also reports that their murderers are brought to justice in less than 10 percent of these cases.

    A free media, and therefore democracy, cannot flourish if journalists work in fear. If citizens want to know what is happening in their communities and if they want the the powerful held to account then journalists need protection.”


  10. JC 10

    A Day late but most are in bed anyway …

    “The farming sector needs to wake up to environmental challenges after being in a bubble under the previous government, a rural economist says.”


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