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Daily review 09/12/2019

Written By: - Date published: 6:16 pm, December 9th, 2019 - 29 comments
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29 comments on “Daily review 09/12/2019”

  1. Sabine 1

    a tale of two tweets

    and then

    • weka 1.1

      I edited the links. For tweets all you need is the URL of the tweet pasted straight into the comment i.e. you don't need to use link html/tags. Always helps to crop the URL back to the base tweet too.

      • Sabine 1.1.1

        i have absolutly no understanding of what you are saying. I am not saying this to be contrarian or so its literally my mind don't compute in that language. I am very happy i can copy and paste and every now and then it shows the thingy or it shows the just the link. I would not know why and i am seemingly unable to learn the thing you just spoke of. 

        I go back now to my very low tech self. Sorry for the work. 

  2. ScottGN 2

    Electoral Calculus UK has pushed the predicted Tory majority back out to 46 seats 

  3. Sacha 3

    Nats lying in graphs again. Thought I'd share a neutral correction instead:


  4. A 4

    Came across another headline this evening, "New claims rock Buckingham Palace", and had the thought someone should do a cost/benefit analysis on the royals and based on that recommend whether we should become a republic.   Something else for the referendum?


    • alwyn 4.1

      If by "we" you mean the people of New Zealand the answer is NO. They cost us almost nothing. If you want a hint about what a home-grown HOS would cost us look at what the Governor General costs us and then multiply it by about 5 for all the ex-GGs we have to support for the rest of their lives.

      Then if you really want to get depressed think what an election battle between the old has-been run-down ex war-horses like Helen Clark and Winston Peters would cost us every few years!

      Stick to the British Royal Family. The are trained for it. They are good at it. And they are paid for by the people of Great Britain.

      • Exkiwiforces 4.1.1

        Or worst still Key, Collins, Carter, Bill what's his name etc etc for President, yeah right mate! Give me a GG any day. 

      • solkta 4.1.2

        The are trained for it.

        Really? Does the Queen have a degree in constitutional law?

        • A

          "it" being…what? 

          If royalty were a business they couldn't make a case.  Pointless, and overpaid due to a bloodline, and (apparently) above the law.  The only value they appear to provide is fodder for women's magazines. 

          When you say they cost us “almost” nothing…holy heck!  They shouldn't cost us ANYTHING. 

          • alwyn

            Royalty. or rather the position of being the HOS isn't a business. It is a ceremonial role of meeting people, attending funerals, presiding at dinners, opening buildings, conferences and parks and conferring honours from the State.

            They don't learn how to do that in any normal job, so if you appoint, or elect, someone to do the job they aren't going to really be any good at it. The order of succession to the Monarch in Britain is known from the day of their birth. The only way they will change it is if the die. It is going to be Charles, then William and then George. They will be trained to do that work, like it or not.   

            A degree in Constitutional law is irrelevant. They don't have any power really and there are experts to tell them the relevant bits.

            Of course they provide fodder for women's magazines. So do film stars, pop stars and politicians. So what?

      • A 4.1.3


        Supporters of the monarchy argue it costs New Zealand taxpayers only a small outlay for royal engagements and tours and the expenses of the governor-general's establishment. Monarchy New Zealand states "[t]his figure is about one dollar per person per year", about $4.3 million per annum.

        I wouldn't call 4.3 million a small expense at all.  And again the sense of entitlement by monarchy lovers…only $1 per person…Let's remember that some of those people don't even have a home.  Some are waiting for operations that won't be funded in time for them to be saved.  Some can't afford glasses, prescriptions, decent shoes. 

        On the other hand the Royal family have plenty of money/assets that earn millions in income each year, tax free, and therefore do not need us to sustain them.  To have a zero tax bill should be more than enough privilege imho, and sufficient payment on it’s own.

        [Note that the figure of 4.3M doesn’t appear to include any tax free benefits as far as I can tell..might be wrong]

        • alwyn

          $4.3 million and A worries about "Let's remember that some of those people don't even have a home.  Some are waiting for operations that won't be funded in time for them to be saved.  Some can't afford glasses, prescriptions, decent shoes."

          Well multiply the things that will not be funded by a couple of hundred and that is what we miss out on when we have to pay for Shane Jones slush fund. Or the money we are tossing into the begging bowl for the America's cup. Or the billions we are throwing at the tram down to somewhere in the general vicinity of the airport. Or the $10 billion, or probably much, much more, to shift the Port of Auckland up to an area where Jones hopes to become an MP.

          $4.3 million won't even pay for allowing list MPs to live wherever they like and to commute to a taxpayer funded house in Wellington.

  5. Exkiwiforces 5

     There should be a Royal Commission into these Dill's/ Muppets (insert your own words) of the 1990's National Government that brought in the-

    Leaky Buildings


    Destroying the Trade and the Farm Cadet training.

    WHS/ OHS, ref: Pike Creek Coal Mine

    Accrued Accounting for Government Depts aka Capital Charge etc,

    Flogging off MoW they built roads that last for decades unlike the rds of today's which last only for 5yrs before they fall apart and the Railways which ran into the ground. Both were flogged off to their rich mates.

    Run every other Government Dept into the ground or were in the process to flog it off.

    Max Bradford's power reforms have brought you high power bills,

    Stopped Funding for EQC and now this shit,  


    The No Mate's Party is the grift that keeps on giving even after 30yrs the same shit, but from a different asshole from the 'No Mates Party" every time they are in Governement.

  6. Fireblade 6

    Very sad Police update at 9:00 pm.

    23 people were rescued from White Island earlier today, 5 of those have now died.

    An unconfirmed number of people are still on the Island in unknown condition. There has been no contact with them.

    White Island is currently too unstable for further rescue attempts.

    Australian media are reporting that 24 Australians were on the Island when it erupted.

  7. Anker 7

    Very sad situation at White Island 

  8. pat 8

    "So even after taking account of the cost of compensation, public ownership of these sectors is a bargain. It makes much better economic sense to bring these sectors into public ownership than leave them in the hands of private investors."


    This the UK and privatisation a little wider than NZ but the same principles apply

  9. James 9

    Quick check – stilled banned?

    Update : nope. Hi ya’ll

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