Daily Review 26/08/2015

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  1. Draco T Bastard 1
    26 August 2015 at 6:03 pm

    IRD billion dollar contract a ‘missed opportunity’

    NZ Rise lobby group spokesman Don Christie says New Zealand companies are concerned.

    “No New Zealand companies were allowed to tender for the work because of the way the tender process was run and scoped, it effectively excluded all New Zealand companies taking part.”

    It’s the ZOMG, it’s so complicated that NZ companies just can’t do iiiitttttttt BS that we’ve been getting from government for the last 30+ years and I, for one, am sick of it. Especially when you realise that the majority of the work will be done by NZ subcontractors anyway. The foreign contractor will just be a ticket clipper.

    • infused 1.1
      26 August 2015 at 7:09 pm

      Its out of any companies league here. You have no idea. While id like it here you need to know your limits.

      • Draco T Bastard 1.1.1
        26 August 2015 at 7:37 pm

        Its out of any companies league here.

        What makes it so?

        While id like it here you need to know your limits.

        Well, it appears that the Californian company that’s going to use NZ companies to do the work thinks that we’re quite capable.

      • Jenny Kirk 1.1.2
        26 August 2015 at 8:22 pm

        Infused : I’m thinking of Novopay – weren’t they overseas ? ? ?

        • Lanthanide 1.1.2.1
          26 August 2015 at 9:33 pm

          A very small Australian company way out of their depth.

          A good example of why you shouldn’t trust critical software jobs to small companies that don’t have the track record to prove they’re up to the job. Hence why no NZ companies were included in the tender process for the IRD job.

          • Draco T Bastard 1.1.2.1.1
            26 August 2015 at 10:37 pm

            A very small Australian company way out of their depth.

            With a failed history hence the ‘2’ in their name so why were they given the job?

            A good example of why you shouldn’t trust critical software jobs to small companies that don’t have the track record to prove they’re up to the job. Hence why no NZ companies were included in the tender process for the IRD job.

            What a load of BS. Datacom (you know, the company that was doing the Education Payroll before Talent 2) would most definitely have that proven track record and size that you want and I suspect more than a few other companies in NZ do as well.

            • Lanthanide 1.1.2.1.1.1
              26 August 2015 at 10:54 pm

              How many tax systems have Datacom written?

              Fast Enterprises specialise in it: http://www.fastenterprises.com/integratedtax.html

              Their tax software is used by 30 different US states, and also in Finland, Poland and Malaysia.

              Datacom…?

              • Draco T Bastard …
                27 August 2015 at 12:05 am

                Ah, the old They haven’t done it before and thus can’t do it at all, ever fallacy beloved of the really stupid.

                Did you note that the company doing the software is getting in MYOB and others? Companies that have experience writing programs for the NZ tax system?

                Although, personally, this IRD system design and rebuild is an example of why I hold that the government has the scale needed to justify a government computer department dedicated to keeping the government software all up to date and running smoothly. The Talent 2 fiasco is another good example. So would INCIS.

                • Lanthanide …
                  27 August 2015 at 8:31 am

                  fallacy beloved of the really stupid.

                  Nah, it’s the standard industry-recognised fact about software projects. Any project that is similar to one you’ve done before is hugely more likely to succeed, compared to something you’ve never done before.

                  I’d rather the IRD spent $2B on a company that has done many tax systems before, to dramatically increase their chance of success (delivering required functionality on time without cost blowouts).

                  We don’t want a repeat of INCIS. Or Novopay.

                  Did you note that the company doing the software is getting in MYOB and others? Companies that have experience writing programs for the NZ tax system?

                  Yes, writing programs *for* the NZ tax system. Not writing *the* NZ tax system. Big difference in scope.

  2. mickysavage 2
    26 August 2015 at 6:05 pm

    Andrew Little neatly skewered John Key in the house today, asking Key if the state home that he lived in was warm and dry and if current tenants of Housing Corp homes should enjoy the same standards. Key responded like a trained seal, kept saying that it was all Labour’s fault and kept referring to $300 million being spent on state house maintenance. The video is below.

    • mickysavage 2.1
      26 August 2015 at 6:07 pm

      Then Metiria Turei asked Key why he would not work with the Greens on improving standards. The response was more petulance by Key.

    • Jenny Kirk 2.2
      26 August 2015 at 8:23 pm

      Trained seal ! that’s better than an American puppet – indicates he knows even less than a puppet would !! Thanks MS for that image ….

  3. dv 3
    26 August 2015 at 6:06 pm

    , it’s so complicated that NZ companies just can’t do iiiitttttttt B

    Oh you mean like Novopay

  4. Macro 4
    26 August 2015 at 6:59 pm

    It’s amazing what some people will do for a bottle of red and a selfie.

  5. marty mars 5
    26 August 2015 at 7:11 pm

    key looks armless in that shot

  6. Lloyd 6
    26 August 2015 at 11:09 pm

    Will we get a “David Seymour was responsible” death and injury record following the late night opening of liquor outlets during the Rugby World Cup?
    Will David assist in economic reparation for those deaths and injuries?
    How much will the extra policing cost?

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