Drinking Liberally – Auckland

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1. CMR 1

   6 March 2009 at 9:04 pm

   [lprent: deleted troll line]
2. Doug 2

   6 March 2009 at 9:06 pm

   [lprent: deleted troll line]
3. theaveragekeywi 3

   6 March 2009 at 9:34 pm

   Election next week is it Doug?
4. Julie 4

   6 March 2009 at 10:22 pm

   I seem to recall similar polls for the Labour-led Coalition Govt versus National following the 2002 election, anyone care to dig up the facts?
   • lprent 4.1

     7 March 2009 at 9:26 am

     Who cares about the polls look at the 2002 election results
     http://www.elections.org.nz/record/resultsdata/general-elections-1996-2005-seats-won-by-party.html
     2002
     41.3% Labour
     20.9% National
     10.4% NZ First
     7.1% ACT NZ
     7.0% Greens
     6.7% United Future NZ
5. Doug 5

   7 March 2009 at 8:16 am

   Sadly, that party no longer exists.

   So, when people ask: “Do you think Phil Goff is the right person to lead Labour?”, I always reply: “No. But, at the moment, nobody else is either.”

   I’d probably say the same of Andrew Little if required to comment on the Labour presidency.

   It’s a grim admission: made even grimmer by the probability that in New Zealand’s prime political market of Auckland – home to 1.3 million people – Labour can boast fewer than 2,000 paid-up party members.

   That’s the challenge Andrew Little must face, but frankly, I think Davey Hughes, the extraordinarily charismatic boss of Swazi Apparel, would stand a better chance of rebuilding Labour’s grass roots support than the boss of the EPMU.

   Question: Who said this, Clue he is a very Left.
   • Monty 5.1

     7 March 2009 at 11:15 am

     Well of course this is Chris Trotter. – And he is on the money – the reality of Labour squandered opportunities are coming home to roost for NZ and quire correctly the population is currently blaming Labour for this happening.

     I of course would be banned from these soialist gatherings – but how I would dearly love to attend to discuss with Lefties why they think labour got defeated in the election, and the legacy of debt that Labour has left NZ.

     [lprent: I don’t think anyone is banned from attending. I suspect that (like here) how you behave will determine bouncing]
     • Monty 5.1.1

       7 March 2009 at 2:57 pm

       Thanks Lynn but I won’t be going and I live in Wellington, and am too busy making money or being with my family to spend an evening having a few beers with a some lefties who are probably still living in a world where the election defeat Labour suffered was because of John Key deceiving the public, and nothing to do with Mike Williams, the EFA, the Anti smacking, the nanny state, and now the recession and missed opportunities of the Labour Government.
       • Robinsod 5.1.1.1

         7 March 2009 at 7:27 pm

         Somehow I get the feeling missus monty might not mind having a night without her biggest mistake hanging around… You should go monty… Or are you too scared the woolly liberals will cardigan you to death?

         Cluck cluck cluck…

         Oh I do like this new reply function…
       • lprent 5.1.1.2

         7 March 2009 at 8:15 pm

         When was the last time that the NZ public gave a government a fourth term? 1960″s? That was the main reason that NACT won. It surely wasn’t that National or Act distinguished themselves. They simply didn’t make too many mistakes. Barely adequate as politicians.
         • sweeetdisorder 5.1.1.2.1

           7 March 2009 at 8:31 pm

           You really think that the reason nats won , was because most nz govts. don’t get a forth term? Just a simple matter of probability then?

           Had nothing to do with;

           1.the standing beside peters at all costs
           2.labour constantly looking for dirt on key, the H bomb (and finding none)
           3. Williams fact finding mission in search of said H bomb evidence
           4.Lying about environmental achievements
           5.Tito Phillip Field
           6.Anti smacking bill (although a green bill, anger was displayed against labour)
           7.Even Goff admitting after the election that labour lost touch with the electorate!!!!!
           8.EFA
   • Leroy 5.2

     7 March 2009 at 6:09 pm

     Trotter is a joke among all but a few on the left because his politics are stuck in the 1980s. He’s never gotten past what happened to the Labour party and he has a warped view of how it and the unions work now. That is when he’s not making an arse of himself singing on the stage at the Labour party conference.

     Seriously, who does he represent? Not me. I know it’s been said before, but the left need a new spokesman.
6. sweeetdisorder 6

   7 March 2009 at 6:37 pm

   Leroy

   which left?

   The chardonnay pinko left of which trotter is a member.

   The not so very different from national but we say we left which is pretty much the current labour party mp’s., EMPU.

   Or, the grass roots destroy the left and build a new represented with socialist aoteroa and SFWU.

   The first is a museum piece, the second was voted out and on current polling quickly becoming a footnote on the pages of history.

   Its only from the third grouping will new left rebuild.
7. Leroy 7

   7 March 2009 at 6:59 pm

   Full respect to my comrades in the SFWU but they’re barely solvent and are looking at merging with the PSA to save themselves. They play an important role on the left but they’re really in no position to lead it. (They’re also affiliated to labour so there goes your theory.)

   Again full respect to Socialist Aotearoa but there’s like ten of them. They’re not going to be in a position to change much in a hurry.

   Like most of right you don’t seem to have a bloody clue how the left works. Much like Trotter actually.

   I judge people and organisations on their results. Trotter’s just another one of the McCarten worshipping chardonnay socialists that are all too common here in Auckland. He wouldn’t know a worker if he tripped over one on his way to the pie shop so I don’t see why I should take his views seriously.
8. sweeetdisorder 8

   7 March 2009 at 7:16 pm

   Leroy

   I was talking about where this new leadership might arise. So, I still think that it has a better chance from the likes of SFWU and Socialist Aoteroa than the likes of the current labour ranks and EMPU.
   • Leroy 8.1

     8 March 2009 at 7:54 pm

     What makes you think that? The same thing that makes you not able to spell ‘EPMU’ properly? Face it mate you don’t know what you’re talking about.
9. Doug 9

   7 March 2009 at 8:21 pm

   Ipernt
   Why does Labour like looking back, for 9 hard years all Labour could do was blame National for their shortcomings. Now you Compare poll ratings with the 2002 results. Always looking to blame someone or something.
10. Joseph 10

    7 March 2009 at 9:10 pm

    Iprent – did you notice that your link is wrong? It’s linking to the Duccati club of New Zealand. .org.nz is what you’re looking for in the hyperlink, not .co.nz
11. mike 11

    7 March 2009 at 9:39 pm

    “They simply didn’t make too many mistakes. Barely adequate as politicians.”

    Says a lot about the competition then. Sounds like the left is splintering nicely between the latte liberals and communists – fight to the death go on…

    And looking at the latest morgan poll http://www.roymorgan.com/news/polls/2009/4362/ how long till Cunni takes the pioson chalice
12. CMR 12

    7 March 2009 at 9:54 pm

    “Drinking Liberally!” No, fading fascinatingly= Labour!

    “How you behave, will determine bouncing,”

    SEIG HEIL!! SEIG HEIL, COMRADES!

    Let’s dance down the shit strewn highway to permanent extinction!

    IrishBill: This is what you do on a Saturday night? Get a life. You’re permanently banned.
13. illuminatedtiger 13

    8 March 2009 at 3:08 am

    And in other news the govt have just scrapped our country’s 1.9 million a year pacific aid program. Should one be surprised though considering their fire at will bill aimed squarely at employees who are largely brown? I suppose National voters are happy though, kicking the brown folks, the poor folks, the underdogs into the gutter for decades. It’s like a bloody tradition to that lot now isn’t it!
    • higherstandandard 13.1

      8 March 2009 at 8:38 am

      That and baby eating .. never forget the baby eating.
    • antisocialisttosspots 13.2

      8 March 2009 at 9:52 am

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      [lprent: GL – you are currently banned. Putting you into the anti-spam as you don’t offer anything and appear to ignore warnings]
14. Travellerev 14

    8 March 2009 at 8:22 am

    Bugger,

    I really would have liked to hear what Rod Oram had to say about our current economic situation.
    • antisocialisttosspots 14.1

      8 March 2009 at 10:03 am

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      [lprent: GL – you are currently banned. Putting you into the anti-spam as you don’t offer anything and appear to ignore warnings]
15. grumpy 15

    8 March 2009 at 9:25 am

    What about Condi then? I too have to admit to having had a bit of a crush on her so I can understand the appeal of such a story.

    Looks like the only person with the inside information might be Winston. I have to say that destroyed it for me, like many high powered women, she obviously has poor taste in men.

    I wonder if he will appear in the movie – I hear he needs a job!
16. Brett Dale 16

    8 March 2009 at 12:02 pm

    So the New Zealand Documentary film group, allows Faux documentary now?

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