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FPP: A man’s world

Written By: - Date published: 10:31 am, September 19th, 2011 - 32 comments
Categories: election 2011, electoral systems, referendum, sexism - Tags:

The Campaign for MMP has a series of vids that we’ll be running. This one looks at how MMP has lifted the representation of women in Parliament. Makes you wonder about the people who want to send us backwards.

By the by, due the paucity of women on National and ACT’s list, the next Parliament is likely be to be first since 1978 to see the number of women decrease.

Loving this brighter future.

32 comments on “FPP: A man’s world ”

  1. King Kong 1

    MMP has also lifted the representation of lazy retards in Parliament. Makes you wonder about the people who think that is a good thing.

    • Actually king kong there have always been lazy retards in parliament.  I estimate that numbers increased dramatically in 1949, 1960, 1975, 1990 and 2008 …

    • lprent 1.2

      We really can’t do much about the National and Act party lists.

    • Ari 1.3

      I’m sure there are plenty of lazy MPs, and always have been, but I think it’s a bit off comparing that particular type of mentally challenged people, who are generally an incredibly kind and caring bunch, to bastards like Roger Douglas. :p

  2. Cool video, you might want to fix the link.  The Anti MMP brigade should have a look at this and see how effective political videos are made.

  3. Craig 3

    As for the opponents of MMP, salacious ribs about their lewdly labelled preferred electoral system occur to one, of which the most muted option is:
    “SM- all pain, no gain!”

  4. alex 4

    MMP is looking safe for now. Let’s keep it that way.

    • It looks like MMP won’t be seriously challenged. A review of MMP with a few possible tweaks looks to be the best option.

      By the by, due the paucity of women on National and ACT’s list, the next Parliament is likely be to be first since 1978 to see the number of women decrease.

      It’s possible a majority of women prefer male candidates.

      • mickysavage 4.1.1

        I reckon someone should do a website called “the intelligence of Pete George” and list a selection of his comments in order in inanity.  If there was a list this would be near the top.
         
        It is possible that the world is flat, that the moon is made of cheese and that Barak Obama really was born in Africe and was the spawn of aliens.
         
        Postulating about them is inane and fills up areas of my screen that could be used for posting meaningful comment.

      • Ari 4.1.2

        I assert, as I have always in this occassion, that the number of people talented enough to do a good job as an MP is large enough that you could probably skew parliament significantly towards any demographic you wanted with a completely stellar lineup, so it should not be very hard to craft a party list that is at least semi-representative of New Zealand while still always picking quality candidates.

        The problem is that neither Labour nor National are interested primarily in the quality of their candidates, (if they were, at the very least they’d open up their lists to a general vote by members) they’re far more interested in protecting incumbents, while doing just enough tweaking around the edges to appeal to their bases and their swing vote constituency.

      • Vicky32 4.1.3

        It’s possible a majority of women prefer male candidates.

        It’s possible. but unlikely that a majority of women do!

  5. alex 5

    Nice song too. Props.

  6. In Vino Veritas 6

    “This one looks at how MMP has lifted the representation of women in Parliament. Makes you wonder about the people who want to send us backwards”.

    OMG. MMP is a good system just because it lifts the representation of women in parliament. Surely this is some sort of joke? No wonder Labour is struggling. Stuff like this is laughable. And as to National and ACTs party lists, better not having women if you end up with the risible bunch that labour have got. Try these:

    Jacinda Adern
    Carol Beaumont
    Steve Chadwick
    Clare Curran
    Lianne Dalziel
    Darien Fenton
    Annette King
    Moana Mackey
    Sue Moroney
    Lynne Pillay
    Carmel Sepuloni
    maryan Street
    Louisa Wall

    There’s a solid core of people who have been using invisible spray amongst that lot. The only reason that others have ever been heard of is their tweeting inane rubbish. Though I guess Sepuloni talks to unionists, Wall to netballers and Curran to PR types.

    • RedLogix 6.1

      Most backbench MP’s lead relatively low profile lives; it’s pretty much the nature of the current ‘Presidential style’ media coverage of politics that means the vast majority of what happens in politics outside of soundbites from the Party Leaders … simply gets ignored. So unless you are paying attention you’re quite likely to miss most of what goes on.

      On the other hand I think it more likely you’re just a sexist dickwad.

      • In Vino Veritas 6.1.1

        And Red, its easy to be ignored when you dont have anything to say. Though the tweeters seem to have plenty of nothing to say. Sort of like Phil Goff. In fact, I left her off the list. Sexist dickwad? How scathing of you, could that be considered bullying under Labours policy?

        • mickysavage 6.1.1.1

          its easy to be ignored when you dont have anything to say
           
          Never a truer word said in vino.
           
          I bet that you have never:
           
          (a)  Met a labour woman MP
          (b)  Heard them speak
          (c)  Read any of their speeches
           
          Yet you have become an expert on them.  Do you often profess expertise in areas you have no knowledge of?  Or are you just trolling?

          • In Vino Veritas 6.1.1.1.1

            You are being a little harsh mickey. I have indeed heard a Labour MP speak. I listened to Helen Clarke several times live and had the privilege to meet, and speak with her on two occasions. I have also heard Dalziel speak, though God knows why I put myself through it. Oh, and back in about 1984 or 85, I heard King speak. Horowhenua I believe.

            Given that I am old enough to have also met and spoken with Sir Robert Muldoon, I don’t actually know what trolling is. Perhaps you would be so kind to explain.

            [lprent: see here ]

            • felix 6.1.1.1.1.1

              “Given that I am old enough to have also met and spoken with Sir Robert Muldoon, I don’t actually know what trolling is.”

              Yet he uses terms like “OMG” without prompting.

              I smell a rat.

            • mickysavage 6.1.1.1.1.2

              So you have not seen or heard 11 of the 13 Labour female MPs speak nor presumably read their speeches yet you have formed very firm conclusions on their worth and ability?
               
              See the problem?
               
               
               

            • mik e 6.1.1.1.1.3

              Its time you booked into AA and did the 12 step program Ivvy league. Drunks always have excuses are highly manipulative while in denial.Your harping back to Muldoons daze[another drunken idiot]FPP days show what a misogynist you are!

          • felix 6.1.1.1.2

            Why would he bother doing any of that? They’re just women ffs micky.

    • felix 6.2

      “OMG. MMP is a good system just because it lifts the representation of women in parliament. Surely this is some sort of joke? “

      Who knows? You’re the only person I’m aware of who has said any such thing.

      Also, your list includes some very effective and popular MPs, and includes both electorate and list MPs. What was your criteria for inclusion?

      Oh now I see, it’s alphabetical by surname – you just copied a list of current female labour MPs!

      Hilarious.

      • In Vino Veritas 6.2.1

        Alphabetical. Made it easy for people on this site who dont like National Standards. Criteria was risibleness. I put my best foot forward and found them all to be risible, therefore copied the list. Not unreasonable would you say?

        If I’m the only person that you know who has said such a thing, perhaps its a reflection of the people you know (or rather dont)?

        And I’m pleased you find it hilarious, I aim to entertain.

        • felix 6.2.1.1

          “If I’m the only person that you know who has said such a thing…”

          Well you implied that the video or post said that.

          They don’t.

      • Deadly_NZ 6.2.2

        Well it’s a list of competent female politicians, Now if you want to have a look at the other side of the coin we have

        Bennett
        Collins
        Parata
        Tolley
        Wilkinson
        Roy

        A right competent bunch that

    • framu 6.3

      “using invisible spray”

      whats that about?

      • McFlock 6.3.1

        Apparently IVV can’t see female MPs. The fault is, of course, with the women – not IVV’s blinkers.

  7. randal 7

    the noo noo heads that want to get rid of MMP are the same ones that think you can own women and that women are just property. They would like to be able to sell you and me too.

  8. Carol 8

    The reason for wanting more women in parliament, and in senior roles in government, does not have to do with the talents and/or effectiveness of individual women MPs. The idea is that a critical mass of women will result in MPs, parties etc, having a better understanding of issues that impact on women, and in what ways. It should result in more policies that are slanted less towards male experiences, and more equally to male and female experiences. So it has also to do with women’s participation in policy development and parliamentary committees etc, which the general public is not very aware of.

    The proof is in the policies: compare current National policies with those of Labour and Greens. e.g. early childhood education, equal pay, low paid and part time workers etc etc.

  9. NCEA worked for me. 9

    Just a shame the grammar in the first section is so poor……..

    “In 1893 Kate Sheppard campaigned successfully women’s right to vote.”

    I agree with the sentiment but should really fix that one.

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