Green Party candidates and vision speech (updated)

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1. weka 1

   26 February 2017 at 1:30 pm

   The Greens always do the best speeches at their conferences. This is the first speech I’ve heard in a while that makes me want to vote Green not just for pragmatic reasons but because I feel inspired.

   Shaw is basically game on, both in the challenge of changing the govt, but also in building a good strong relationship with Labour.

   then,

   “Climate change is not just the greatest challenge of our time, it’s the greatest challenge of all time”.

   Then, biodiversity, water and the interconnected nature of those things and what government can do in reality to protect us all.

   “Minister, I can smell the e-coli on your breath as you lean towards me”

   😈
   • coffeeconnoiseur 1.1

     27 February 2017 at 12:22 pm

     Nup still a lost opportunity. Political parties don’t no how to engage with people.
     They need to paint the picture of the world they envisage and do it in plain English. Then when asked how have the answers on how.
     I had hoped for more from Shaw. But then he is an ex consultant.
     I don’t give a toss what your going to invest in…….well actually I do but that’s not the way to put it.
     I care about the outcomes!!
     I care about being able to drink from our rivers
     I care about every New Zealander being able to meet there essential basic needs
     I care about moving to a low cost or even free energy society.
     I care about having more time to be able to live my life and to not simply have to work in order to survive.
     and so on
     and so on…..
     • weka 1.1.1

       27 February 2017 at 12:25 pm

       “They need to paint the picture of the world they envisage and do it in plain English. Then when asked how have the answers on how.”

       They just announced a pretty specific policy on aquifer protection. What didn’t you understand about that?

       btw, this speech was for GP candidates, that’s who it was pitched at. And GP activists to gear us up for the election campaign. If you are an undecided voter, I think you will get more direct messages during the campaign proper.

       edit, I just saw your comment below, so get it now. You want policy specifics. I agree, and I expect we will see them more over the coming months. This speech was more a motivational one IMO for those gearing up for the leg work.
       • coffeeconnoiseur 1.1.1.1

         27 February 2017 at 12:47 pm

         Yes but to be clear not policy specifics (although I do want them and they are important) what I want is outcomes!
         Outcomes on everything and plain English aimed at the level of a 10 year old.
         and no not because I’m stupid. Its because I know what works. How to get peoples attention and get them on side.
         Outcomes for them (New Zealanders) and this country pitched at the level of a ten year old.
         Yep I am an undecided voter. My decision is whether to waste my time voting or not. I think this time I will have to as more of the same is unacceptable.

         My biggest issues are
         Clean water.
         Housing prices – The solution I want to see is shut the door on foreign buyers. You want to buy a house you better be a NZ Citizen or be living here.
         Child Poverty.
         The last two are parts of system collapse. I’d like a political party to have the balls to stand up and tell people this and explain why.
         Then paint me a picture for a better world and how to get there.
         Paint it so that it becomes my idea too.
         Its not hard, Its really not. It just means not doing things the way they have been done up until this point.

         ffs!
2. weka 2

   26 February 2017 at 1:32 pm

   Green Party NZ‏@NZGreens 7m7 minutes ago

   We are going to set a crystal clear bottom line on drinking water – @jamespeshaw #Green2017

   Green Party NZ‏@NZGreens 7m7 minutes ago

   Protecting our fresh water is something so basic, we’ve mostly taken it for granted. We can no longer be so complacent. #Green2017
   

   They’re now taking about not just swimmable rivers, but drinkable in terms of aquifers and aquifers needing specific protection under the RMA that forces those administering under the RMA have to take aquifers into account not just for human health but the health of waterways.

   Water as a taonga left to us by our ancestors, with acknowledgement to Māori culture for this concept.
   • coffeeconnoiseur 2.1

     27 February 2017 at 12:25 pm

     That’s more like it!
     • weka 2.1.1

       27 February 2017 at 12:31 pm

       https://thestandard.org.nz/green-party-members-bill-to-protect-freshwater/

       🙂
3. weka 3

   26 February 2017 at 3:26 pm

   Coverage from Shub,

   Irresponsible water bottling companies and irrigating farmers who rely on underground freshwater aquifers are being eyed up by the Green Party.

   Co-leader James Shaw is promising a crackdown on intensive aquifer users by giving the underground water sources greater legal protection if the Greens are elected to Government.

   “Protecting our fresh water is something so basic that we’ve taken it for granted. We can no longer be complacent,” he says.

   He’s launched a Private Member’s Bill in the name of his MP Catherine Delahunty that adds a “clean groundwater” amendment to the Resource Management Act, making it a “matter of national importance”.

   “Taking too much water from aquifers for private commercial uses such as irrigation and water bottling has become an issue of increasing public concern,” says Mr Shaw.

   He says the flow-on effects of aquifer depletion are huge – with many spring-fed rivers and water holes in Canterbury especially, drying up into “puddles of algae”.

   The proposal will see tougher hurdles and mitigation measures for commercial users and farmers wanting to take water from aquifers.

   “Companies are bottling and exporting our freshwater, without paying for it. While at the same time, communities are on water restrictions and boil notices.”

   http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2017/02/greens-want-aquifers-protected-by-law.html
4. weka 4

   26 February 2017 at 3:38 pm

   People & Planet‏@DeborahMTNZ 2h2 hours ago

   .@metiria affirming the core role of Government in enabling families to thrive & protecting water for all NZers. #Green2017
5. Roy 5

   26 February 2017 at 9:14 pm

   Hell yes. They’re on-message all right. Surely people understand clean water is more important than some vague promise about being ‘competitive’ and such crap right? Right??
6. Jenny Kirk 6

   27 February 2017 at 12:51 pm

   Weka – I have David Parker’s speech in Christchurch recently about Labour’s policies and views on freshwater. Its fairly long. And substantial.
   Should I put it on here ? or should I just send it to you as a moderator for you to put up – if so, email address please.?
7. saveNZ 7

   27 February 2017 at 2:12 pm

   It’s not a bad speech, but sounds more like a policy document or check list than inspiration.

   The Greens should be able to both inspire with all the Natural landscape we have in NZ and make you angry with National for stealing that and make you determined to fight for that.

   I did not get enough emotion from that speech. It was not personal enough. There needs to be more storytelling.

   People remember anecdotes. I liked Metiria’s speech in 2016 .. in particular

   ‘There’s this story about Michael Joseph Savage before he became the first Labour Prime Minister. He was an opposition MP for a very long time, and during the 1920s he used to tour the country building support for his new party. And he warned people that the economic system was broken. That it was unfair. And that it had corrupted the political process. That the system was rigged in ways that were dangerous and unstable. And he talked about the role of government in fixing these problems. Preventing collapse. Making things fair again.

   And one day, the story goes, he asked a farmer at one of these meetings, ‘Do I have your vote, sir?’ And this farmer said, ‘Well, you’ve got a lot of big ideas. Some of them sound right. But you and your party have never been in government. And I’ve learned on the farm that you never let a man watch your stock unless they’ve done it before. So you do not have my vote.’

   Years later, in the mid-1930s, Labour still had never been in government. By then New Zealand was in the depth of the depression. The agricultural sector was the backbone of the economy and it had collapsed. There was mass unemployment. Mass farm bankruptcies. Riots. During the election campaign in 1935 Savage was by then the leader of the opposition. He went back to this province and saw the same farmer and said, ‘Do I have your vote yet? Are you going to let me look after your stock?’ And the farmer replied, ‘I don’t have any stock anymore and that’s why you have my vote.’

   I’ve been in parliament nearly fourteen years. I’ve been an opposition leader for almost seven of those. One of my goals and the aim of the Green Party is to try and stop history from repeating itself.”

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