Junk pay

Written By: - Date published: 2:55 pm, May 15th, 2008 - 68 comments
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The last couple of episodes of Fair Go have rightly taken aim at a distribution company – Reachmedia – that rips off young kids by paying them peanuts.

Reachmedia (half owned by NZ Post) has been paying young kids sweatshop wages to distribute pamphlets for the likes of the Warehouse, Farmers, Michael Hill Jeweller, and Progressive Enterprises (the company that owns Woolworths and Countdown). And to add insult to injury, over the past few years Reachmedia has been cutting wages.

13-year-old Cassie Cocurullo used to get a around $2 for folding and delivering 100 pamphlets to 100 homes. She now gets a pathetic 50 cents. Cassie is hired as a contractor, rather than as an employee of Reachmedia. This means she’s not entitled to a minimum wage – instead she reckons her wage is about 25 cents an hour. Fair Go suggests that five and a half thousand Reachmedia workers are in the same boat.

So what’s Reachmedia’s excuse? Their CEO Paul Forno told Fair Go:

We think our pay structures are appropriate for the work that’s undertaken… we believe the contract model works successfully for Reachmedia.

Let’s be clear about this: It works well for Reachmedia because they’re getting slave labour out of it. And slave labour sure helps drive up profits. As Cassie said, “it’s like a third world country or something”.

I suppose one could hope that some of Reachmedia’s clients might be prepared to stand up for the contractors. Nope. When approached by Fair Go they all passed the buck too. Fortunately there’s some legislative light at the end of the tunnel for workers in Cassie’s position.

There’s a private member’s bill coming up that aims to ensure contractors are paid at least the minimum wage. Norightturn has a good short description of it. Labour, the Greens and the Maori Party are all in favour. But National, and astonishingly NZ First, aren’t. Perhaps we shouldn’t be surprised the Nats are supporting a large corporate over a 13 year old kid, but come on NZ First, we know your heart’s in the right place – do the right thing!

Fair Go say they’re going to continue looking into cases, so if you have any info that could help, make sure you contact them. As Kevin Milne put it, these workers “don’t ask for much, but surely they deserve more than Victorian chimney sweep rates.” 

68 comments on “Junk pay”

  1. You know, we get criticised by people because we don’t care enough about whether some ex-civil servant faked her CV to bother covering it and you know why? Because it’s a distraction, a trivality. We can only produce a few posts a day and the real issues must come first – like thousands of kids being exploited.

    Politics should be first and foremost about the big issues that affect everyone, and the biggest among those is wages.

    Good on Fair Go.

  2. insider 2

    I understand the principle you are arguing but I worry about the practical reality.

    One of my children has a paper run doing the weekly community paper. He gets about $10 a week doing it. Now he does it very slowly and chats to the neighbours (and they enjoy that), pats dogs and dreams dreams as he goes. If he was paid by the hour it would be uneconomic for the paper company to pay him because he is slow. If they had to pay minimum wage I doubt he would have a job and they likely would not deliver at all or they would have an adult do it by car like the morning paper.

    Would that be a good outcome? He loses a job that teaches him about reliability, responsibility and community, and gives him exercise, as well as the independence of his own pocket money. The loss of the money is no issue, but for some families who aren’t as lucky as ours, that could be a real loss for a child.

  3. Tim 3

    That is disgusting. Reachmedia [deleted] sound like scumbags. I’m not surprised Progressive Enterprises is one of their clients. They treat their child workers the same as their adult workers – extremely poorly.

    I have to say it wouldn’t matter whether they’re contractors or employees. The private member’s bill won’t do anything for these kids. There is no minimum wage for people 15 and under.

    Government had the opportunity to fix this when the Minimum Wage (New Entrants) Amendment Bill came through but they didn’t. They didn’t even eliminate youth rates for good, in spite of a good campaign from Radical Youth, Unite etc.

    The Greens are about the only political party who are on to it when it comes to young workers.

  4. rjs131 4

    This is very similar to a case that is going on in the Manakau District court, involving a guy called Taito Philip Field. Did nt he, while a member of parliament do the same thing – pay slave labour rates to vulnerable contractors.

    The delivery of flyers only reflects badly on the stores advertising those products, hopefully soon we will be rid of this pest!

  5. higherstandard 5

    This is less than I used to make ‘100 years ago’ delivering papers in Auckland on my bike.

    And regarding the civil servant in question – it speaks more to the lax standards around reference checking in the public service at the time and person in question generating an environment where the correct procedures and actions could be usurped.

    And Steve while I agree the real issues should come first the booze up at the pub an the Batman post while entertaining pretty much fall under the heading of trivial.

    [lprent: Trivial might be the case (although I enjoyed the batman one). But the posters make posts on what they feel like. I’m the only one who can impose a limit. But that is related to my name being the only visible one on the site.

    No-one can tell them what to write about. This isn’t directed at you HS – your comment about lax standards is my view as well. There is some bozo called big bruv demanding to run the site in my mailbox, where the moderated live until released, or as he is banned – destroyed.]

  6. Tim 6

    Mind you it would be quite interesting to test whether these workers are in fact contractors. I mean, how likely is it that she is truly running her own business? Who pays the taxes? Is she GST registered? Does she provide her own tools for the job?

    Don’t know much about it but someone could take a case to the Employment Court to see if these kids are contractors or not – if they’re not holiday pay, sick leave etc. all applies plus it would be an excellent way to highlight the issue and embarrass Reachmedia.

  7. Matthew Pilott 7

    Insider, there’s an easy solution – benchmark pay against quantity of pamphlets delivered.

    Say, 100 pamphlets to 100 houses (given junk mail I’d expect 600 to 100 houses but that aside…) would take an adult twenty minutes or so. At fifty cents, they’re being paid an equivalent of $1.50 an hour (based upon the rate an adult could do it).

    Base it upon a vaguely respectable rate, $6 an hour, and you’ve got something that might be a touch more realistic. This would be $2 for 100 houses’ delivery. If the kid wants to take three hours, their hourly pay will be quite low, but at least there’d be something to justify it!

    Disclaimer: I haven’t seen the clip, I can’t access youtube at present.

  8. rjs131. Yeah Taito’s alleged behaviour is scummy too. You won’t find anyone who exploits vulnerable workers being defended here.

  9. Joker 9

    “You won’t find anyone who exploits vulnerable workers being defeated here.”

    It is probably immature of me to point of the mistake here but it really gave me a giggle.

  10. Joker 10

    Whilst I think these kind of companies are scumbags this is not slave labour. No one is forcing anyone to do these jobs. We are always hearing about how tight the labour market is with record low unemployment so why don’t these kids go and get themselves a job that pays more?

    Captcha: Expecting Wood – Good news for Mrs Joker

  11. all_your_base 11

    insider – I take your point but however I look at it I can’t help but see these kinds of pay rates as anything but exploitative. It’s made worse by the mealy-mouth BS from the CEO about ‘admiring our stakeholders’ and ‘appreciating the efforts of our team members’ or whatever. Surely we could find a solution that remunerated these workers more fairly.

  12. randal 12

    you wanna see the right wing nutters going off on this one on trademe opinions…they think its wonderful to make a profit out of kids

  13. andy 13

    what insider said…

    Matthew: I think you may be under estimating the time taken to deliver ‘junk mail’.

  14. Matthew Pilott 14

    Really Andy? If I underestimated it that means that the companies are even worse. I’m not sure what your point is there to tell the truth.

    However, having said that, I’ve delivered pamphlets (three guesses who for, the winner gets an emoticon of their choice) and I’d average three houses a minute, so I stick with the estimate (it’s a rough one, to be sure, but not that rough).

    Running a system based upon houses and not time at least gives some fairness to the system – then the kid can choose their own pace. And if that’s what reachmedia are doing, then they’re basically paying $1.50 an hour.

  15. mondograss 15

    Also got to remember the folding time, which can be arduous, so less than $1.50 an hour I’d say. On the positive side I see the “Property Brick” is about to be discontinued as a delivery in some areas. Thank god for that!

  16. andy 16

    Matthew, you were fast!

    But still what insider said…..

  17. Scribe 17

    Nice to see Fair Go covering this story. Six months ago, a Catholic agency — Caritas Aotearoa New Zealand — blew the lid on the industry with a study.

    See a news report here: http://www.nzcatholic.org.nz/viewDocument.aspx?DocumentID=1329

    And Caritas’s press release: http://www.caritas.org.nz/?sid=1078

    And the full report: http://www.caritas.org.nz/dox/Domestic%20Advocacy/Delivering%20the%20Goods.pdf

    Oh, and in case you were wondering, no, I don’t work for Caritas 😉

    [Apologies for the links. Maybe an admin person can linkify them.]

  18. insider 18

    My son gets paid by weight of papers.

    One of the points not addressed is that children can’t do these jobs without parental permission. They are not full time jobs on which we depend to live – they are pocketmoney. So can they really be slave labour given I have weighed up all the other benefits and my sone has managed to buy himself his heart’s desire?

    Children have been doing paper runs for generations, and I;m pretty sure I have seen this story more than once in my life. I wonder if the longevity of paper runs indicates the financial/social balance is pretty good.

  19. insider 19

    Oh and BTW, how many of you pay minimum wage for babysitters?

  20. Businesses owned by the Labour government seem to be making a habit of flouting responsible labour practices:

    “Air New Zealand’s Shanghai-based flight attendants are paid a quarter the salary of their NZ colleagues – less than the legal minimum wage here.”

    http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=&q=chinese+air+new+zealand+steward&btnG=Google+Search

  21. insider: what is the minimum wage ? Our babysitter charges $10 hour however she doesn’t pay tax, acc or gst so I think she is doing ok.

  22. Tane 22

    Mawg, funny you try to tie shoddy labour practices into government ownership, when in fact it’s actually just capitalism at work. The government exerts no control over Air NZ, nor does it control Reachmedia. From what I’ve seen where the government does exert some influence the employment practices tend to improve.

  23. erikter 23

    The question you should be asking is why are these kids taking those jobs? Nobody is forcing them to do it, so they must be happy to collect the money.

    It hurts the lefties but it’s undoubtly true: demand and supply rule in the capitalist marketplace (and the world). Tough!

  24. Tane 24

    Yes erikter, we live in a market economy and in that economy the market is the mechanism by which people’s pay is determined. That doesn’t mean we have to accept it.

    As an aside, I notice some of the reader feedback suggested the workers go on strike – unfortunately that would be illegal under Labour’s ERA, which forbids strike action outside of the renewal of a collective agreement, and in some cases health and safety.

  25. Billy 25

    I agree with Insider. What are the parents doing?

  26. randal 26

    is that a rhetorical question…what are they doing?

  27. Tane: “Finance Minister Michael Cullen as holder of the Crown’s 82 percent shareholding in Air New Zealand;” http://www.beehive.govt.nz

    So the Michael Cullen holds 82% of Air New Zealands shares and yet has no control over it ?

    “Reachmedia (half owned by NZ Post)”, ditto the shareholding Minister for NZ Post.

    ” # We paid our sole shareholder, the New Zealand Government, a dividend of $30.8 million.
    # Since New Zealand Post was incorporated in 1987 we have paid more than $1 billion in dividends and taxes to the Government.”

    http://www.nzpost.co.nz/Cultures/en-NZ/AboutUs/NewZealandPostToday/FastFacts/

    So am I right in concluding that it is looking like a socialist Labour government is using loop holes in the employment law to underpay children and Chinese workers ?

  28. Billy 28

    Nice try, randall. You used “rhetorical” in a sentence (although possibly not correctly). You also displayed again your blossoming affection for the ellipsis. But you forgot to start your sentence with a capital letter.

  29. ak 29

    Nice robinsod impersonation Billy, but you began a sentence with a conjunction.

    I used to help these kids out by delivering for them in the course of daily exercise – the challenge was to post without stopping the bike, almost as therapeutic as dumping reams of the crap whenever passing a public bin. The organisers claimed that they checked up on deliveries but I knew the tight-arses would never spring for that – never any repercussions, besides who’s going to complain about not getting this garbage? Nowadays I just boycott as many chains as I possibly can.

  30. Mag. It’s not the government, it’s a company part owned by an SOE. And as you know, SOE’s operate as independent companies, the Government has barely more power over them than a shareholder does over a company… so this is two steps removed from any shadow of ministerial control…

    …but that’s not good enough, the government should use it’s weight and moral force, even if it lacks directive power in this case, to force Reachmedia to sort out its act.

    captcha: ‘mature visit’. yeah, tell that to the girlfriend. chance would be a fine thing.

  31. Ari 31

    Just a point- while we live in a market economy, we also accept that there are boundary conditions that it is unacceptable for the market to breach- like the minimum wage laws. We also usually allow strike action and the possibility of collective negotiation in order to make sure the market isn’t just a race to the bottom. I’d definitely view it as a loophole that said laws don’t apply to contractors.

    As for parents- where should they come into it, exactly? It’s primarily the company’s responsibility to pay a fair wage. The parents CAN teach their children about negotiating with employers, but kids who deliver circulars don’t have a very strong bargaining position in the first place. At least public opinion is helping out here…

    As for them being kids- don’t we have adequate provisions for training wages and trial periods?

    It’s also pretty sick to blame the government for this happening just because NZ Post is an SOE and has a stake in the business responsible.

  32. darryl 32

    Actually Steve, if you are a shareholder in a company and have 82% of the shares you can make the company do whatever you want. In fact the company can’t do anything without your consent.

    What you need to find out in this case is whether the government does own 50% – 51% of Reachmedia through NZ POST. If they own 49% or less then they can possibly claim their hands are tied but if they own 50% or more then they are definitely able to change the pay rate.

    I personally think Mathews suggestion is a good one, either get paid by weight of brochures or amount of brochures delivered. And make that amount reasonable so there is an incentive to deliver as many as you can as quickly as you can.

    I also think that even though these brochures are being delivered by kids the amount they are currently getting paid is a joke. And Fair Go is right to raise it as an issue.

  33. My young daughter worked for these people very briefly a few years back. After waking in the rain for two hours to make about $3.00, I told her to quit.

    The problem she now has is employers who refuse to pay her the minimum wage. They’re paying $11.50 / hour. She doesn’t want to make an issue of it because it’s her first job and she wants to get a good reference from them when she leaves to go to Uni. There is no union. he wont let me say anything to her employers.

    If anyone is wondering why wages suck in New Zealand….You’ve got it right there.

  34. Pinetree 34

    Two questions – how long has the current legislation been in place that allows this to occur, and second, why is it taking a private members bill to address it ?

    This should be right up the Governments alley….so tough ask to tar NZ First/Nats with this one, when surely the “simple” means of redress has been at the disposal of the encumbents…

  35. Why doesn’t Cassie just mow her neighbors lawns or take their dogs for a walk or do babysitting? she can earn a lot more that way.

  36. Gooner 36

    You might find this helpful:

    http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1969/0041/latest/whole.html#DLM392378

    If it’s too long, check out the Minors’ Contracts Act 1969.

  37. Ari 37

    Pinetree- Because as usual, Labour is too busily involved with its race to the centre with National to look out for youth wages?

  38. r0b 38

    Ari, that’s not entirely fair – the Labour led government abolished youth rates as of April 1st 2008.

    I do agree that they moved far too slowly to do this.

  39. Tane 39

    It’d be nice to see something now providing minimum wage protections for workers under 16.

  40. Felix 40

    Brett said

    Why doesn’t Cassie just mow her neighbors lawns or take their dogs for a walk or do babysitting? she can earn a lot more that way.

    Great solution Brett, now someone else can do Cassie’s old job.

    Brilliant.

  41. If you think the job you are working pays too low, you leave it, I mean there are far better jobs for 13 year olds than that.

    But hey I bet if she wanted to work at McDonalds for 12 bucks a hour, those on the left would stop her

  42. Tim 42

    I agree with Ari.

    The Labour Government didn’t abolish youth rates. It created a “new entrant” rate for the first 200 hours or 3 months of employment. It’s certainly an improvement (and way better than National who basically oppose any pro-worker law), but in my opinion it didn’t go far enough.

    It wasn’t really a Labour inititive either, it came from Radical Youth, Unite, NDU and the Greens. If you ask me the best thing Labour has done to employment law is the Holidays Act 2003, but they’re found wanting in other areas.

    There is still no minimum wage for children 15 and under.

  43. Darien 43

    I’m the author of the bill that goes to second reading next week. It doesn’t deal with children under 16, because it amends the current minimum wage act, but it does deal with the thousands and thousands of vulnerable contractors over 16 who not only work in leaflet delivery, but in truck driving, courier delivery, cleaning, fastfood delivery, security, music and movies, caregiving, forestry, telemarketing and so on. Exploitation isn’t just happening for kids. It’s a model for how minimum remuneration can be calculated in the world of independent and dependent contracting. It’s a highly complex area, because rights for contractors only exist in commercial law, and they are few when it comes to their employment. Ari, there are new entrant rate for 16 and 17 olds in my bill. And I wasn’t influenced in the slightest to vote for the removal of youth minimum rates by Unite, Radical Youth or anyone else – I voted for it because I believe youth rates are wrong and always have done.

    Darien Fenton

  44. Darien 44

    Sorry, there are no new entrant rates in my bill

  45. r0b 45

    Darien – thanks for that, very good to hear from you on this blog.

    Are such bills in progress available to the public on the web?

  46. Policy Parrot 46

    Seriously, its awesome how the right preach about “incentives” and “hard work”, yet some of their biggest fans are caught paying kids peanuts – or would that be a peanut?

    Captcha: “servant raignment” – indeed.

  47. Tane 47

    Maw:

    So the Michael Cullen holds 82% of Air New Zealands shares and yet has no control over it ?

    Yes, that’s how it works – despite owning more than 80% of Air NZ the public has no democratic control over its operations. Yet another reason why we should fully nationalise it.

  48. Vanilla Eis 48

    r0b: check http://www.parliament.nz – you can get a list of bills before Parliament. You can also search all bills before Parliament, and narrow fields to look exclusively at Private Members Bills etc.

  49. r0b 49

    VE – thanks for that. There’s a bewildering array of information – hard to sort through!

    Here’s an overview of bills. A summary of the current state of
    Darien’s bill. The bill itself (pdf link).

    No matter how often I see it, the slow pace of the parliamentary process continues to amaze…

  50. Vanilla Eis 50

    Yeah, the select committee process itself often takes months. Still, I’d much rather have a slow process than a quick one. As far as public input goes we’ve got one of the most open systems in the world. For example, in working on the Real Estate Agents Bill the Justice and Electoral committee had ~1400 submissions, with around 900 of those submitters also wanting to submit in person to the committee – not a small undertaking!

    It’s a very involved process and normally it does a great job in vetting bad legislation. There will always be exceptions, but such is politics.

  51. Billy 51

    When did they make “nice” a conjunction?

  52. Matthew Pilott 52

    ?

    I think it’s about time The Standard also recognised the burgeoning literary & grammatical movement that thrives, hidden within.

    [lprent: I don’t write literacy posts. Perhaps you could ask one of the posters.

    Actually believe it or not, it appears that the ‘sod has written the only literature post (as a Guest). He reviewed Wisharts book.]

  53. insider 53

    So Tane, if Cullen exerts no control over AIr NZ, why did he carpet the Chair and order no more flights to IRaq? Or did he actually not do that and Air NZ just spontaneously come to the same non political conclusion he did?

    If you think the latter, I have a very nice train set I am willing to let you nationalise for a wee bit under $1billion.

  54. National disgrace 54

    I used to make $13 an hour pumping gas on Sundays to pay my way through university… in 1981 !! Remember penal rates? Took me two hours to earn my week’s rent. The ECA has a lot to answer for, what joy it will be for workers if the nats were to get back in charge and screw them down again. These days it still takes me two hours to pay the rent, but I make $200 an hour! Progress?

  55. ak 55

    “But” Billy. (But everyone does it, but billies, which butt. Aussies use it differently but.)

  56. AncientGeek 56

    nd: I’d say that what you class as rent has either gone up massively.

    Sounds to me like you’re comparing a room in a hovel in auckland (or a brick and tile in hamilton) in 1981 with a habitable 2 bedroom house in auckland in 2007.

    There was quite a lot of inflation since 1981. Why don’t you compare it to something more tangible. I’d suggest counting it in terms of litres of milk – evil grin.

  57. National disgrace 57

    AG: Indeed, I do live a somewhat more stylishly than my student days. I agree there has been a lot of inflation since 1981. My point is that gas pumpers are still making that same $13 an hour after those 27 years of inflation….

  58. AncientGeek 58

    Urggh – you’re probably correct. Gas pumpers has to be a minimum wage area these days – which is kind of interesting bearing in mind how much technology they’re expected to run.

    In 1981 there would have been at least double time to pump on sunday. Now it’d just be the usual rates.

  59. Vanilla Eis 59

    Usual rates indeed. I pumped gas around the turn of the millennium, and it was minimum wage work. Profit margins at the retailers are tight (to the tune of 2-4 cents/litre sold) so I very much doubt that gas station attendants will ever earn more than minimum wage. Profit margins would be why we’re seeing the expansion of BP into coffee/cafe style foods I would imagine.

    Of course, I was expected to actually serve people on the court, which is something of a rarity these days.

  60. Matthew Pilott 60

    Lynn – sorry if that stood out at you, should have said something about the ‘about’ page and not The Standard itself… It seems a wonderful (to me) combination of grammar and politics permeate the comments threads.

    [lprent: 🙂 Possibly. But I figure that anything addressed to “The Standard” is addressed to me personally, since I run the machine. Usually it is a prelude to an series of attacks on the site on a “less personal basis” about editorial content. There isn’t an editorial policy apart from what is in the about. So I defend on a personal basis. Besides it allows me to burn off frustration with sarcasm.]

  61. RJ 61

    There are ways of calculating piecework rates to compare to minimum wages.

    When I was a berrypicker aged 12-17 the rates had to be set so that the number of kilos picked added up to a base rate, with an good worker working it. Most of the pickers were kids, but good adult pickers could make minimum wage plus a little.

    As I recall the hourly rates set in the Award (remember those day – I barely can!) were $4.54 for 17-year-olds and $5.45 for 18 year olds. When I eventually got taken on on an hourly rate at 17, I thought it unfair that the girl a year older than me got paid more without doing any more work.

  62. Darien 62

    rOb – glad you were pointed to the parliamentary website. The select committee report gives you some information about how the bill will change during the committee stages because there will be amendments to make the bill clearer. The select committee was tied on supporting the bill, so amendments have to be put forward as SOPs in the committee stages. I agree that it can be frustratingly slow. It’s often not the select committee that slows things down, but the parliamentary process. Members’ bills like mine can only come up every second Wednesday when the House is sitting. Local bills come before members bills and there’s been a raft of those, so members bills drop down the order paper. When numbers are tight, like they are on my bill, further postponement may occur because the numbers are in the House to vote. For example, if the Maori Party doesn’t have three out of their four MPs in the House, they can only exercise three votes which leaves a bill relying on Labour /Progressive, Greens, Taito and Maori Party one vote short. My bill has already been postponed for that reason once, and that put the bill back nearly six months. That’s why it would be better if NZ First supported it so there is a buffer if the Maori Party’s votes are not there on the day. I just want to get this issue sorted for those workers who are not entitled to minimum wage and hopefully, there won’t have to be a postponement again.

  63. Vanilla Eis: We have to be careful in looking at “costs” from multi-nationals. They tend to inflate the price to NZ in order to bring the revenue back to the home country for lower tax there. Their branches here in NZ are supposed to make as little profit as possible. Global IT company charged the NZ branch a 40% “royalty” on imported hardware and software – supposedly to fund R&D in the US. But what it really did was take the profit back to the US for taxing at lower rates and leave local NZ Branch with micro-profits or minor losses year on year. The real profits had been exported. But the apparent “lack” of profit here could be used to claim poverty…

    [lprent: fixed]

  64. Hmm…OK….used the wrong sort of brackets and the words disappeared. The missing words are “global IT company” and “local NZ Branch” and should appear after “as possible” and “and leave” respectively.

    [lprent: What tags were you trying?. Make sure you get the slash on the closing bracket.
    eg <b>global IT company</b> goes to global IT company
    Like that]

  65. r0b 65

    Darien – thanks for that. Very interesting to have the perspective of an insider to the process.

    For example, if the Maori Party doesn’t have three out of their four MPs in the House, they can only exercise three votes which leaves a bill relying on Labour /Progressive, Greens, Taito and Maori Party one vote short. My bill has already been postponed for that reason once

    What about proxy votes, or the old system of pairing? Surely such conventions can be used – at least for private member’s bills (as these can come from any party) – and it speeds the process for everyone.

    I just want to get this issue sorted for those workers who are not entitled to minimum wage and hopefully, there won’t have to be a postponement again.

    Go for it!

  66. Draco TB 66

    As for parents- where should they come into it, exactly?

    Teaching their kids basic economics. Unfortunately, from what I can make out, most people don’t have a basic understanding of economics and so can’t teach their kids.

    If I was a parent I would be telling the kids to put a value on their time equal to or greater than the minimum wage (or, preferably, a value on what they want to achieve and when they want to achieve it by which would then determine the value of their time). Then help them go over the figures to see if it measured up. If it doesn’t then they don’t do the job.

    BTW, I want to see junk mail banned anyway.

  67. higherstandard 67

    Draco

    If I was a parent I would be telling the kids to put a value on their time equal to or greater than the minimum wage (or, preferably, a value on what they want to achieve and when they want to achieve it by which would then determine the value of their time). Then help them go over the figures to see if it measured up. If it doesn’t then they don’t do the job.

    If you were a parent you would be delighted that your kids were out working like most of us. Working out a fair wage is down the track after they become accustomed to getting of their arse in the first place

  68. Slow 68

    My son just started a round. It sounded good on paper. And lots of extra spending money.

    But he did his first night, and took his brother to help him. It took them 3 hours together, and they were knackered. How long its going to take him if he does it by himself, I don’t know. I think if it interferes with his school work and takes more than 3 hours after school by himself, its not going to work. There must be something he can do to earn money that isn’t exploiting him, or causing an issue at home.

    The rate quoted is $11 per 1000 pieces of mail, but I would think often its several pieces of junk going to each house. But it took all evening one evening to fold the mail, and then 3 hours to deliver. What sort of rate will that work out per child?

    What do you suggest?

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    The text below is a Twitter thread by Heather Heying that explains the essence of sexual reproduction and it long evolutionary history. She is an evolutionary biologist and a “professor-in-exile” after she and her husband, Bret Weinstein, stood up to supporters of an enforced “Day of Absence” for white staff and teachers ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    6 hours ago
  • Climate Change: Trees, aviation, and offsets
    With crunch time for new Zealand climate policy approaching, most of the New Zealand media have got on board with a global reporting effort to cover the issue. There's one strand of stories today about polling and what it shows about changing public attitudes to the crisis, but the strand ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    10 hours ago
  • Pissing-Off The Israelis Is A High-Risk Strategy.
    Dangerous Foes: For those readers of Bowalley Road who feel disposed to dismiss any prospect of an Israeli destabilisation of New Zealand politics, the example of the United Kingdom repays close attention. Ever since the election of Jeremy Corbyn as leader of the British Labour Party, the Israelis have sanctioned, funded and ...
    13 hours ago
  • Something to go to in Wellington
    Make It 16, the youth-led campaign to lower New Zealand's voting age, is holding an official campaign launch at Parliament this Friday from 16:30. If you'd like to attend, you can register using EventBrite here. ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    14 hours ago
  • A founding member responds to Peace Action Wellington
    by Don Franks It was a lovely sunny Wellington afternoon with blue skies above  the beaches.  In Courtenay Place, political activists packed out a stuffy upstairs room for an important meeting. The assembled pacifists, anarchists, communists and independent young radicals of Peace Action Wellington felt the need for a mission ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    14 hours ago
  • “Mistakes and errors”
    Current and former NZDF top brass are being publicly grilled this week by the hit and run inquiry over their public responses to allegations of civilian casualties. Previously, they've claimed there were no casualties, a position which led them to lie to Ministers and to the public. Now, they're saying ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    15 hours ago
  • “Homosexuality is same-sex attraction and relationships, not heterosexuals with delusions of gende...
    by Rafael D. Quiles (gender-critical gay man from Puerto Rico) The writing on the wall is right in people’s faces and people just don’t see it or don’t want to. What could actually possess a heterosexual male to want to feminize himself and claim that he is a lesbian? Because ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    1 day ago
  • Trump: “Where’s my favourite dictator?”
    From the Wall Street Journal:Inside a room of the ornately decorated Hotel du Palais during last month’s Group of Seven summit in Biarritz, France, President Trump awaited a meeting with Egyptian President Abdel Fattah Al Sisi. Mr. Trump looked over a gathering of American and Egyptian officials and called out in ...
    2 days ago
  • Magdalen Burns, 1983-2019, fighter for women’s liberation
    by the Redline blog collective At Redline we are very saddened to hear of the death of Magdalen Burns who passed away on the morning of Friday, September 13 (British time). Magdalen was a great fighter for the rights of women in general and lesbian women in particular, a defender ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    2 days ago
  • Parliament and the Executive
    The Brexit issue has certainly brought with it a series of apparently difficult constitutional issues, many of them concerning the respective roles of the executive and parliament. Most of them arise because of the unwillingness of MPs, despite their professions to the contrary, to be bound by a constitutional rarity ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    3 days ago
  • The Abigail Article; Martyn Bradbury’s Article, and My Response
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    Frankly SpeakingBy Frank Macskasy
    3 days ago
  • Police will have to wear silly Buckingham Palace hats from now on, says Police Minister
    Those close to the Police Minister believe the initiative may be the result of Nash “seeing a great deal” on AliExpress. In a move that comes seemingly out of nowhere, Police Minister Stuart Nash announced this afternoon that he expects all frontline staff to don bearskin hats, famously worn by ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    3 days ago
  • A sensible crackdown
    The government has released its Arms Legislation Bill, containing the second tranche of changes to gun laws following the March 15 massacre. And it all looks quite sensible: a national gun register, higher penalties for illegal possession and dealing, tighter restrictions on arms dealers and shooting clubs, and a shorter ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago
  • California bans private prisons
    Private prisons are a stain on humanity. Prison operators explicitly profit from human misery, then lobby for longer prisons terms so they can keep on profiting. And in the US, prison companies run not only local and state prisons, but also Donald Trump's immigration concentration camps. Faced with this moral ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • Why PPPs are a bad idea
    When National was in power, they were very keen on Public-Private Partnerships (PPPs) - basicly, using private companies to finance public infrastructure as a way of hiding debt from the public. They were keen on using them for everything - roads, schools, hospitals. But as the UK shows, that "service" ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • A Movement That No Longer Moves.
    Moving And Shaking: There was a time when people spoke matter-of-factly about the “labour movement” – a political phenomenon understood to embrace much more than the Labour Party. Included within the term’s definition was the whole trade union movement – many of whose members looked upon the Labour Party as ...
    4 days ago
  • NZ ‘left’ politically embracing extreme postmodernism
    by Philip Ferguson Much of the left, even people who formally identify as marxists, have collapsed politically in the face of postmodern gender theory of the sort pioneered by American philosopher Judith Butler. For Butler even biological sex is socially constructed. “If the immutable character of sex is contested, perhaps ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    4 days ago
  • The obvious question
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • The moment I found out that you found out, I acted swiftly
    By Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern I am every bit as angry as you are. I am every bit as disappointed as you must be. The people with power, oversight and the ability to do something about these processes within the Labour Party should be ashamed. Whoever those people are, I ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    4 days ago
  • This is why people hate property developers
    Property developers think there is an "oversupply" of houses in Auckland:High turnover rates and falling prices may be a sign that there are too many new houses going in to some parts of Auckland, commentators say. [...] Property developer David Whitburn said there was a "bit of an oversupply" in ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • Australia to Pacific: “Fuck you, you can all drown”
    World leaders are meeting in New York in two weeks for the 2019 Climate Action Summit, where they are expected to announce new and more ambitious targets to stop the world from burning. But the Australian Prime Minister won't be there, despite being in the USA at the time:Scott Morrison ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • Implausible ignorance
    Labour Party president Nigel Haworth resigned yesterday over the party's sexual assault scandal. But while that's good news, its unlikely to take away the stench of a coverup. Because according to Paula Bennett in Parliament yesterday, pretty much everyone in the Prime Minister's office was involved as well:I have been ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • Labour’s Fatal Flaw.
     Two-Faced? Labour insiders' commitment to the neoliberal status quo puts them at odds with their party’s membership; its trade union affiliates; and a majority of Labour voters, but this only serves to strengthen the perception they have of themselves as a special elite. Among the lesser breeds, they’ll talk up a ...
    5 days ago
  • Ten reasons the Tories do NOT want an election
    There has been a lot of talk about Boris Johnson wanting an election, and he has blustered with great gusto about 'chicken' Jeremy Corbyn refusing one, but I think there are many reasons why he is secretly glad he has been refused the opportunity:The Tories are an utter rabble,tearing themselves ...
    5 days ago
  • Prorogation Illegal, rule Scottish judges
    Scottish appeal court judges have declared that Boris Johnson’s decision to suspend parliament in the run-up to the October Brexit deadline is unlawful. The three judges, chaired by Lord Carloway, Scotland’s most senior judge, overturned an earlier ruling that the courts did not have the powers to interfere in the prime ...
    5 days ago
  • Let me explain what I meant by Everyday New Zealanders
    By Simon Bridges. The following is a press release from the office of Simon Bridges, leader of The National Party. Key ora, New Zealand. Happy Maori Language Week. Look, I’m writing to you today because I want to clear something up. There’s been a lot of kerfuffle around some things ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    5 days ago
  • Yes, the SIS is subject to the Public Records Act
    I understand there's some stuff going round about how the SIS "was removed from the list of public offices covered by the Public Records Act in 2017". The context of course being their records derived from US torture, which will be disposed of or sealed. The good news is that ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • An evidence-based discussion of the Canadian fluoride/IQ study
    Dr. Christopher Labos and Jonathan Jarry discuss the recent Canadian fluoride/IQ research. They provide an expert analysis of the paper and its problems. Click on image to go to podcast. The critical debate about the recent ...
    5 days ago
  • Climate Change: Australia in denial
    Australia is burning down again, and meanwhile its natural disaster minister is denying climate change:Australia’s minister responsible for drought and natural disasters, David Littleproud, has said that he doesn’t “know if climate change is manmade”. Clarifying earlier comments that the question is “irrelevant” when considering the Coalition government’s response to ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • Philippines activist speaking on the Duterte tyranny
    Auckland Philippines Solidarity is excited to host Professor Judy Taguiwalo for a speaking tour of NZ in September. She is a well-known activist in the Philippines and was a political prisoner under the Marcos dictatorship. Professor Taguiwalo briefly served as a Cabinet member under President Duterte but was forced from ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    6 days ago
  • Disgust
    I have no special insights to offer on the Labour sexual assault coverup. All I have is disgust. Disgust that an organisation could fail its people so badly. Disgust that they punished the victims rather than the perpetrator. Disgust that its party hacks are apparently blaming the victims for demanding ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • Speak Up for Women calls out Greens’ censorship
    This open letter to the Green Party was penned after an opinion piece by Jill Abigail, a feminist and founding member of the party, was censored by the Greens’ leadership. (Redline has reprinted her article here).The intolerance of the Green Party leaders and their acceptance of the misogyny of gender ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    6 days ago
  • Member’s Day: End of Life Choice, part 3
    Today is a Member's day, and David Seymour's End of Life Choice Bill continues its slow crawl through its committee stage. They're spending the whole day on it today, though the first hour is likely to be spent on voting left over from last time. After that they'll move on ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • Flight to Los Angeles turned back after passengers decide they don’t want to go anymore
    An ambitious plan to fly to Los Angeles petered out into a brief sight-seeing trip and a desire to return home and get some sleep before work tomorrow. Air New Zealand has confirmed a flight to Los Angeles last night was turned back about a quarter of the way into ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    6 days ago
  • Indigenous Futures: defuturing and futuring – an analytical framework for policy development?
    There appears to be consensus – by omission – that the concept of indigenous futures should be accepted at face value. So I scavenged the internet to see if I could locate an academic descriptor or a framework around how we think about it as a concept, and whether it ...
    EllipsisterBy Ellipsister
    6 days ago
  • Cadbury rumoured to be releasing the Pineapple Trump
    Here’s another novelty chocolate to shove in your gob, New Zealand Cadbury could be seeking to make itself great again with a rumoured new release: Pineapple Trumps, a spin on its classic chocolate-encased pineapple treat and do-it-yourself tooth remover. The global confectionery manufacturer and bumbling “before” character in an infomercial, ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    6 days ago
  • The coming resource war.
    During my time in the Pentagon I had the privilege of sitting down with military leaders and defence and security officials from a variety of Latin American nations. Sometimes I was present as a subordinate assistant to a senior US defence department official, sometimes as part of a delegation that ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    6 days ago
  • Māori Language Week with The Civilian
    Kia ora, Aotearoa. It’s that magical time of year. Te Wiki o te Reo Māori. In English, the week that frightens talk radio. As you probably know by now, all your favourite media outlets are participating, some more successfully than others. Stuff has changed its name to Puna for the ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    6 days ago
  • Will Horizons act on climate change?
    Local body elections are coming up next month. And it looks like all Palmerston North candidates for Horizons (the Manawatu-Whanganui Regional Council) want to take action on climate change:Climate change is set to be a key issue in Palmerston North for the next three years if those wanting to get ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    7 days ago
  • BORA reform is stalled
    Eighteen months ago, the government promised to strengthen the Bill of Rights Act, by explicitly affirming the power of the courts to issue declarations of inconsistency and requiring Parliament to formally respond to them. So how's that going? I was curious, so I asked for all advice about the proposal. ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    7 days ago
  • Corbyn and Brexit
    As the Brexit saga staggers on, the focus is naturally enough on the Prime Minister and his attempts to achieve Brexit “do or die”. But the role played by the Leader of the Opposition is of almost equal interest and complexity. The first problem for Jeremy Corbyn is that he ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    7 days ago
  • A ditch for him to die in
    Last week, English Prime Minister Boris Johnson boldly declared that he would rather die be dead in a ditch than delay Brexit. Unfortunately for him, the UK parliament accepted the challenge, and promptly dug one for him. The "rebellion bill" requires him to ask for and secure yet another temporary ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    7 days ago
  • Warning! Warning! Danger Jacinda Ardern! Danger Marama Davidson! Warning!
    Lost In Political Space: The most important takeaway from this latest Labour sexual assault scandal, which (if I may paraphrase Nixon’s White House counsel’s, John Dean’s, infamous description of Watergate) is “growing like a cancer” on the premiership, is the Labour Party organisation’s extraordinary professional paralysis in the face of ...
    7 days ago
  • Union solidarity with Ihumatao land occupation
    by Daphna Whitmore Every Sunday for the past two months unionists from First Union, with supporters from other unions, have set out to the Ihumatao land protest, put up gazebos and gas barbeques, and cooked food for a few hundred locals and supporters who have come from across the country. ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • Climate Change: The wrong kind of trees?
    Newsroom today has an excellent, in-depth article on pine trees as carbon sinks. The TL;DR is that pine is really good at soaking up carbon, but people prefer far-less efficient native forests instead. Which is understandable, but there's two problems: firstly, we've pissed about so long on this problem that ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • No freedom of speech in Turkey
    Canan Kaftancioglu is a Turkish politician and member of the opposition Republican People's Party (CHP). Like most modern politicians, she tweets, and uses the platform to criticise the Turkish government. She has criticised them over the death of a 14-year-old boy who was hit by a tear gas grenade during ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Speaker: Tadhg Stopford: Why I’m standing for the ADHB
    Hi there, just call me Tim.We face tough problems, and I’d like to help, because there are solutions.An Auckand District Health Board member has nominated me for as a candidate for the ADHB, because her MS-related pain and fatigue is reduced with hemp products from Rotorua.  Nothing else helped her. If I ...
    1 week ago
  • Good little vassals
    The Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security has published their report on whether the SIS and GCSB had any complicity in American torture. And its damning. The pull quote is this:The Inquiry found both agencies, but to a much greater degree, the NZSIS, received many intelligence reports obtained from detainees who, ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Who Shall We Turn To When God, And Uncle Sam, Cease To Defend New Zealand?
    Bewhiskered Cassandra? Professor Hugh White’s chilling suggestion, advanced to select collections of academic, military and diplomatic Kiwi experts over the course of the past week, is that the assumptions upon which Australia and New Zealand have built their foreign affairs and defence policies for practically their entire histories – are ...
    1 week ago
  • The Politics of Opposition
    For most of the time I was a British MP, my party was out of government – these were the Thatcher years, when it was hard for anyone else to get a look-in. As a front-bencher and shadow minister, I became familiar with the strategies required in a parliamentary democracy ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    1 week ago
  • More expert comments on the Canadian fluoride-IQ paper
    The Green et al (2019) fluoride/IQ is certainly controversial – as would be expected from its subject (see If at first you don’t succeed . . . statistical manipulation might help and Politics of science – making a silk purse out of a sow’s ear). Anti-fluoride campaigners have been actively promoting it ...
    1 week ago
  • The return to guerrilla war in Colombia
    by Gearóid Ó Loingsigh On August 29th a video in which veteran FARC (Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia) commander Iván Márquez announced that they had taken up arms again was released. There was no delay in the reaction to it, from longtime Liberal Party figure and former president Uribe, for ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    1 week ago
  • Air New Zealand identifies this enormous plot of unused land as possible second airport site
    Air New Zealand couldn’t believe its luck that this seemingly ideal piece of real estate had so far gone entirely unnoticed. Air New Zealand’s search for a site to build a second Auckland Airport may have made a breakthrough this afternoon, after employees scanning Google satellite imagery spotted a huge, ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • Redline on the Labour Party
    No-one on the anti-capitalist left in this country today puts forward a case that Labour is on the side of the working class.  There are certainly people who call themselves ‘socialist’ who do, but they are essentially liberals with vested interests in Labourism – often for career reasons. Nevertheless, there ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    1 week ago
  • New Fisk
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Labour’s failure
    When National was in government and fucking over the poor for the benefit of the rich, foodbanks were a growth industry. And now Labour is in charge, nothing has changed: A huge demand for emergency food parcels means the Auckland City Mission is struggling to prepare for the impending arrival ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Ardern attempts to vaccinate Clarke Gayford live on television to prove that it’s safe
    Gayford, pictured here on The Project, before things got wildly out of control. A bold public relations move by the Government to encourage parents to vaccinate their children has gone horribly wrong. Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern appeared on tonight’s episode of Three’s The Project, where the plan was for her ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Has Mr. Whippy gone too far by parking on our front lawns?
    Mr. Whippy’s business model has driven it down a dark road of intimidation. Residents in major centres around the country are becoming disgruntled by the increasingly aggressive actions of purported ice cream company Mr. Whippy, who have taken to parking on people’s front lawns and doorsteps in a desperate attempt ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Cleaning up the water
    Today the government released its Action Plan for Healthy Waterways, aimed at cleaning up our lakes and rivers. Its actually quite good. There will be protection for wetlands, better standards for swimming spots, a requirement for continuous improvement, and better standards for wastewater and stormwater. But most importantly, there's a ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Fronting up
    Today I appeared before the Environment Committee to give an oral submission on the Zero Carbon Bill. Over 1,500 people have asked to appear in person, so they've divided into subcommittees and are off touring the country, giving people a five minute slot each. The other submitters were a mixed ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Politics of science – making a silk purse out of a sow’s ear
    Anti-fluoride activists have some wealthy backers – they are erecting billboards misrepresenting the Canadian study on many New Zealand cities – and local authorities are ordering their removal because of their scaremongering. Many New Zealanders ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Democracy – I Don’t Think So
    So, those who “know best” have again done their worst. While constantly claiming to be the guardians of democracy and the constitution, and respecters of the 2016 referendum result, diehard Remainers (who have never brought themselves to believe that their advice could have been rejected) have striven might and main ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    2 weeks ago
  • Government says it will now build just one really nice home
    Following publication of this article, the Ministry has requested it to be noted that this supplied image is not necessarily representative of what the final house will look like, and it “probably won’t be that nice.” As part of today’s long-anticipated reset of the Government’s flagship KiwiBuild policy, Housing Minister ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Imperialism and your cup of coffee
    Over the next week or two we will be running three synopses of parts of the opening chapter of John Smith’s Imperialism in the 21st Century (New York, Monthly Review Press, 2016).  The synopsis and commentary below is written by Phil Duncan. Marx began Capital not with a sweeping historical ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Still juking the stats
    The State Services Commission and Ombudsman have released another batch of OIA statistics, covering the last six months. Request volumes are up, and the core public service is generally handling them within the legal timeframe, though this may be because they've learned to extend rather than just ignore things. And ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Hard News: Time for a New Deal: 25 years on
    In 1994, I was editing an ambitious street mag called Planet, from a fabled office at at 309 Karangahape Road. The thirteenth issue of the magazine was published in the winter of that year and its cover embodied a particularly ambitious goal: the end of cannabis prohibition.I wanted to do ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Not impressed
    KiwiBuild was one of the Ardern government's core policies. The government would end the housing crisis and make housing affordable again by building 100,000 new homes. Of course, it didn't work out like that: targets weren't met, the houses they did build were in the wrong place, and the whole ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Solar beats coal
    As the climate crisis escalates, it is now obvious that we need to radically decarbonise our economy. The good news is that its looking easy and profitable for the energy sector. Wind is already cheaper than fossil fuels, and now solar is too:The levellised cost of solar PV has fallen ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • A Step Too Far.
    A Crown Asset? For reasons relating to its own political convenience, the Crown pretends to believe that “No one owns the water.” To say otherwise would re-vivify the promises contained in the Treaty of Waitangi – most particularly those pertaining to the power of the chiefs and their proprietary rights ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Where Money Comes From
    Most people would say, no doubt, that they have a pretty good idea of what money is. They live with the reality of money every day. It is what is needed to buy the necessities of life and to maintain a decent standard of living. You get money, they would ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    2 weeks ago
  • Banned by the Green Party leadership: Jill Abigail on women’s rights and trans rights
    The article below was an opinion piece that appeared in the Spring 2019 issue of Te Awa (the NZ Green Party’s newsletter) and on the Greens website.  In keeping with their policy of hostility to women defending women’s right to female-only spaces, Green bureaucrats have since removed the opinion piece.  ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    2 weeks ago
  • The fallacy of the proximity argument.
    Longer term readers may remember my complaining that, as a political scientist, it is burdensome to have non-political scientists wanting to engage me about politics. No layperson would think to approach an astrophysicist and lecture him/her on the finer details of quarks and black holes, but everybody with an opinion ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    2 weeks ago
  • Where We Stood: Chris Trotter Replies To Stevan Eldred-Grigg.
    Joining The Fight: Stevan Eldred-Grigg's argument for New Zealand staying out of the Second World War fails not only on the hard-headed grounds of preserving the country’s strategic and economic interests; and not just on the soft-hearted grounds of duty and loyalty to the nation that had given New Zealand ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Universities back the climate strike
    On September 27, School Strike 4 Climate will be striking for a future to pressure the government for meaningful climate action. This time, they've asked adults to join them. And now, Lincoln University and Victoria University of Wellington have signed on:Victoria University of Wellington has joined Lincoln University in endorsing ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago

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