Labour’s reshuffle

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Categories: Annette King, david cunliffe, david parker, david shearer, grant robertson, labour - Tags:

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Hooton’s attempted diversion aside, the big news today is David Cunliffe’s announcement of Labour’s reshuffle.

Following is the Party’s press release:

Labour Leader David Cunliffe has unveiled his new shadow cabinet, describing it is a government in waiting that will make a real difference to the lives of Kiwis.

“I’m immensely proud to lead this new-look caucus line-up. The Labour team has a tremendous depth of experience, as well as plenty of up and coming talent. We are a formidable fighting unit, and this reshuffle will sharpen our attack as we build to the 2014 election.

“This is a line-up based on merit. We have just one short year until the next election, and we need our top performers leading policy development and taking the fight to National.

“David Parker will lead a beefed-up economic team that will put the interests of Kiwis at the heart of everything we do.

“Our economic team of David Parker in Finance, Shane Jones in Economic Development and Grant Robertson in Employment, Skills and Training is second to none. They will be at the core of the next Labour government, delivering policies that will make a real difference to people’s lives.

“The redoubtable Annette King will continue to hold the Government to account in Health, while Jacinda Ardern continues her work focused on children but also picks up Police and Corrections.

“Clayton Cosgrove and Chris Hipkins are both proven performers with a track record of landing hits in their current portfolios. I know they will continue to expose the government and shine a light on its failings.

“Nanaia Mahuta and Sue Moroney both make a welcome step up onto the front bench. Nanaia’s contacts and standing in Māoridom make her the obvious choice in Treaty Negotiations and Māori Development. Sue is more than ready, willing and able to add Social Development to her Chief Whip duties.

“Other MPs who make a well-deserved jump up the rankings include Louisa Wall and Moana Mackey, while David Shearer will lead our international team, taking on Foreign Affairs and also Energy and Resources.

“This is a line-up of talent, intellect and integrity. It is a team of heavy-hitters that is refreshed and raring to go,” says David Cunliffe.

Some interesting changes and David’s determination to get Caucus into shape for the next election is very clear.

lprent – updated: The list from msn.co.nz

LABOUR’S NEW SHADOW CABINET:

(Previous ranking in brackets)

1. (unranked) David Cunliffe: leader, security and intelligence, ICT, regional development

2. (3) David Parker: deputy leader, finance, attorney-general

3. (2) Grant Robertson: shadow leader of the house, employment, tertiary education

4. (6) Annette King: health

5. (7) Shane Jones: economic development, Maori affairs, forestry, building and construction

6. (4) Jacinda Ardern: police, corrections, children, arts/culture/heritage

7. (5) Clayton Cosgrove: state-owned enterprises, commerce, Earthquake Commission

8. (10) Chris Hipkins: education, early childhood education

9. (11) Nanaia Mahuta: Treaty negoatiations, Maori development

10. (13) Sue Moroney: senior whip, social development

11. (8) Phil Twyford: housing, Auckland issues

12. (9) Maryan Street: state services

13. (1) David Shearer: foreign affairs, energy and resources

14. (unchanged) Su’a William Sio: local government, Pacific Island Affairs

15. (unchanged) Phil Goff: defence, trade, ethnic affairs, veterans’ affairs

16. (unranked) Louisa Wall: youth affairs, community and voluntary sector

17. (19) Andrew Little: justice, labour

18. (unranked) Moana Mackey: environment, climate change, science

19. (17) Damien O’Connor: primary industries, fisheries, biosecurity, food safety

20. (12) David Clark: revenue, small business

Outside the shadow cabinet:

21. (unranked) Iain Lees-Galloway: junior whip, ACC

22. (unranked) Kris Faafoi: broadcasting.

 

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  2. Rogue Trooper 2
    23 September 2013 at 3:35 pm

    All good thus far. 😀

  3. Pete 3
    23 September 2013 at 3:48 pm

    Good to see a nod for Louisa Wall. She proved herself with her work on marriage equality. It’s also very wise to leave Hipkins in Education, he’s been doing a lot of good work there. David Shearer is well suited for foreign affairs. I don’t think I can fault the changes.

    • Mary 3.1
      23 September 2013 at 11:54 pm

      I think you’re probably right. Guess the proof will be in the pudding. I do think, though, that Robertson is the weak link when it comes to unity. I really don’t think he’s got it in him to properly get behind a leader he thinks has taken his job, but guess that’s just me. Have a look at Robertson’s face when Cunliffe talks about not being able to promote everyone (at about .56) and again at Robertson’s face when Cunliffe talks about there being “no hatchet to bury” at about 1.43.

      http://www.3news.co.nz/Cunliffe-names-shadow-cabinet/tabid/1607/articleID/314330/Default.aspx

  4. blue leopard (Get Lost GCSB Bill) 4
    23 September 2013 at 3:48 pm

    Nice to see that people are being placed according to their strengths.
    Well done Mr Cunliffe.
    Hopefully the caucus are starting to realise that Mr Cunliffe is a person with good leadership skills, and values talent and this will help them all pull together. With this team spirit and talent it will be easy to shred the Naff party and have them gone by lunchtime.

  5. Varity 5
    23 September 2013 at 3:48 pm

    that’s the easy part done. now what?

    • ghostwhowalksnz 5.1
      23 September 2013 at 3:52 pm

      Thats the Key English mantra – borrow and hope.

      But of course the cameras are there at Balmoral- just as well the priorities are sorted

  6. karol 6
    23 September 2013 at 3:53 pm

    Some extra roles given here on Stuff.

    Ardern also gets arts and culture.

    Goff – veterans’ affairs, ethnic affairs, trade and defence.

    Claire Curran – say “hello” to the back benches with Faafoi taking broadcasting.
    Who has transport? And Twyford?

    PS; the whole list is on Stuff. Twyford is there. Glad to see Wall as associate social development. With more experience she’d be my pick for that portfolio.

  7. Pete 7
    23 September 2013 at 3:54 pm

    The Dunedin electorate MPs didn’t fare well. Kiwiblog is reporting Curran is out of the top 20 and has lost ICT to Cunliffe. David Clark has dropped from 12 to 20, which is a surprise given his work on the Holidays Bill. His seat is safe, though.

    • The Wolf 7.1
      23 September 2013 at 3:59 pm

      Yes DPF has quite a good coverage of this. Listed in black and white without the gloss and fluff

      http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/09/cunliffes_reshuffle.html

    • karol 7.2
      23 September 2013 at 3:59 pm

      It’s interesting that Cunliffe has taken Security and Intelligence, Regional Development, ICT

      These are things he clearly plans to lead his campaign on.

      • veutoviper 7.2.1
        23 September 2013 at 4:08 pm

        I am delighted that Cunliffe has taken those three areas. I had been hoping that he would take ICT and Security and Intelligence. But also taking regional development is also a good signal as to how he rates the importance of that area, imo.

        Overall, an interesting (and possibly a very shrewd) delegation of responsibilities.

      • Anne 7.2.2
        23 September 2013 at 4:51 pm

        The Oppo. leader always has Security and Intelligence shadow portfolios in the same way as the PM of the day is always the Security Services minister.

    • Rogue Trooper 7.3
      23 September 2013 at 4:03 pm

      ICT. Excellent. Somebody who knows when to tweet, and when to delete.

      • Matthew Whitehead 7.3.1
        23 September 2013 at 6:02 pm

        LOL.

        Yeah, I’ve been waiting for someone to kick Clare out of that position, she’s clearly not suited to it, no matter how hard she tries. It’s really great to see ICT given the prominence it deserves.

  8. billbrowne 8
    23 September 2013 at 3:55 pm

    That the little scroat retains education proves DC’s a bigger man than I am.

  9. JK 9
    23 September 2013 at 4:08 pm

    Labour has a new website as well, and the entire listing of MPs with their new portfolio roles is on it.

    • karol 9.1
      23 September 2013 at 4:14 pm

      Really? I got “accessed denied” for the main page, but can get other pages, like the people.

      Oh, now the url has changed from my book mark. it’s now here

      My link had “home” after the main url.

      • Sosoo 9.1.1
        23 September 2013 at 9:16 pm

        That’s a much better site. If I wanted to describe it, I would say it is much more people centred.

        For example, if you click on the NZ Power link, you get big pics of Parker and Mackey on the side, reminding you that they are responsible for that issue. In the housing link, you get a smiling Twyford. I don’t remember it being like that before. Even Mallard gets the animal welfare issue. The pictures are really big too. really really big.

        I like it. I think it’s well thought out and obviously designed to put personal accountability for each issue front and centre, as well as emphasising that it’s not a one man show.

        Good stuff.

  10. Rogue Trooper 10
    23 September 2013 at 4:15 pm

    Sue Moroney ; beyond Paid Parental Leave.

  11. irascible 11
    23 September 2013 at 4:16 pm

    The reshuffle is commendable and promises some heavy hitting in the debating chamber as well as solid campaign focii for the coming year.
    There is re rejuvenation in the Cinliffe line up.

  12. Puckish Rogue 12
    23 September 2013 at 4:20 pm

    Annette King v Tony Ryall on health will be interesting, about time he had a challenge

    Jacinda Ardern with police and corrections, thats…interesting

    Chris Hipkins with education…

    • Rogue Trooper 12.1
      23 September 2013 at 4:22 pm

      pucker up 😉

    • Tiberius 12.2
      23 September 2013 at 7:44 pm

      Except she has had this portfolio since February and has failed miserably to land a hit Tony Ryall

    • Grantoc 12.3
      23 September 2013 at 11:12 pm

      Annette King has been health spokesperson for sometime now.

      To date she hasn’t been much of a challenge to Ryall.

      • tc 12.3.1
        24 September 2013 at 8:53 am

        Personally this is Kings chance to get stuck and go out with a bang, can’t see her in a senior position if lab/greens win as she’s clearly lost interest along with Goff and a few others.

        Very clever list and can’t wait to see DC smash Shonkey over GSCB softening it up for KDC’s legal team to finish the banksta off

  13. Ad 13
    23 September 2013 at 4:27 pm

    Needs fresh good talent to drive the stake through ABC’s heart.

    Done the best he can with retreads.

    But real contest behind this is the List Committee and list conference.
    Will DC put his own real stamp on the refreshed list?

  14. Te Reo Putake 14
    23 September 2013 at 4:34 pm

    I see Andrew Little picks up labour, with Darien Fenton assisting. That’s very good news indeed for working kiwis and we can hope to see the currant slide back to the Contracts Act reversed in 12 months time. Not a moment too soon.

    Edit: and Carol Beaumont gets the thumbs up from the CTU, too:

    CTU President Helen Kelly is pleased to welcome Andrew Little to the important Labour Spokesperson role.

    Helen Kelly says “Andrew is very well respected and experienced in the issues involved in the Labour portfolio and we look forward to working with him. Andrew has been a strong advocate for working people and will bring that wealth of experience and knowledge to the role of Spokesperson for Labour.”

    “There are challenges ahead in the Labour portfolio, and significant changes that need to be made. We are looking forward to Andrew, and the Labour Party, working as highlighted during the Leadership election, to implement employment law policies that extend collective bargaining and that will see wages lift in New Zealand to levels that are fair and sustain families in this country. We also need strong support from the opposition to fight the current National Party changes that undermine bargaining, will drive wages down and make it even harder for workers to get ahead.”

    “We also value the strong experience Andrew will bring to the issue of worker Health and Safety including the role of workers in keeping work safe.”
    “Workers have high expectations that a Labour led Government will put their interests at the heart of its policy and they will be pleased to have someone of Andrew’s experience to ensure this”

    “We are also pleased that Darien Fenton has been named as Associate Spokesperson for Labour. Darien has been a tireless advocate for working New Zealanders, and we are pleased that the portfolio will retain her skills and experience in an Associate role. Darien has been very popular amongst workers and has stood alongside them through thick and thin. Darien has worked hard representing the interests of workers on Select Committees and has a strong understanding and empathy with the hardships faced by many working Kiwi’s and we look forward to continuing to work with her.”

    “We are also pleased to welcome Carol Beaumont as Spokesperson for Women’s Affairs, Spokesperson for Consumer Rights & Standards, and as Associate Spokesperson for Labour. Carol is an ex CTU Officer, and we know she will bring her vast experience to her new roles.”

    • thechangling 14.1
      23 September 2013 at 4:59 pm

      I too think this is an exciting development with Andrew Little as Minister of Labour. Exciting times lie ahead.

    • tc 14.2
      24 September 2013 at 8:55 am

      Beaumont needs to pull finger and prove she deserves to be there, a useless speaker and pretty lazy campaigner.

  15. Sable 15
    23 September 2013 at 4:38 pm

    Sounds reasonable, although I would have thought Goff would have been consigned to the kitchen to make the tea and coffee. Maybe wash a few dishes….

    • GregJ 15.1
      23 September 2013 at 5:35 pm

      I don’t – Goff as a former Minister of Defence is a good choice to look critically at this area – I suspect there are still aspects around Defence where the Government is vulnerable to a considered attack in the House & he’ll be a good match for Coleman. Having him as back up on Foreign Affairs will be good support for Sherarer. It would be a waste otherwise not to utilise him in the next 12 months on areas where he has a track record while he is considering his future (I can see him heading to Washington if there is a Labour led government in 2014 – whether or not he decides to stand again).

      • Ad 15.1.1
        23 September 2013 at 6:33 pm

        Goff was one of the few Labour Defence Ministers to actually gain a huge amount of respect from the armed forces. It’s a great role for him.

        • exkiwiforces 15.1.1.1
          23 September 2013 at 10:11 pm

          You are gotta to be joking???

          See you haven’t you read the Coles report on “Project Protector” ie the Canterbury and the two OPV’s.
          The cost blow out on the NH-90’s
          The cost blow out the C-130 upgrade and he refuse to take advice from CAF in regards to take the option for 8 new C-130J Hercules
          The so call pay rise which he brought in, its more of a rearranging the deck chairs on a sinking ship.
          Deploying the NZDF in penny packets to the Gan in other word can’t defend, attack, or hold ground etc.
          Falling to understand lessons leant from Bosnia, East Timor, Tonga etc because the same problems keep coming up.
          Poor technical advice on the 8 or 9 new Super Seasprites.
          The list goes on.

          Just ask any current serving members of the NZDF or ex members on what they think of Mr Goff and they would say the he’s up there with Cooper and Burton those two goons were bloody awful.

  16. Jenny Michie 16
    23 September 2013 at 5:12 pm

    Puckish rogue “Annette King v Tony Ryall on health will be interesting, about time he had a challenge”
    I’m pretty sure Annette has been health spokesperson for quite a while. Ryall’s a safe pair of hands in health, as Annette was; hard to get a hit on either of them.

    All up it looks like a good and fair line up with talent and results being the dominant driver of the changes. Well done david.

  17. Jane 17
    23 September 2013 at 5:21 pm

    What news of Trevor?

  18. karol 18
    23 September 2013 at 5:23 pm

    Stuff has Silent Trev as being unranked but with a couple of little jobs.

    Unranked:

    -Ross Robertson Assistant Speaker, Racing, Associate Disarmament and Arms Control

    -Trevor Mallard Internal Affairs (including Ministerial Services), Sport and Recreation, America’s Cup, Associate Finance

    -Ruth Dyson Conservation, Senior Citizens, Disability Issues, Canterbury Earthquake Recovery, Land Information

    -Clare CurranCivil Defence and Emergency Management, Open Government, Associate Regional Development, Associate ICT, Associate Economic Development (Procurement)

    -Rajen Prasad Immigration, Associate Ethnic Affairs, Associate Social Development (CYFS)

    -Raymond Huo Statistics, Associate Ethnic Affairs, Associate Education (Export Education), Associate Justice, Associate Building and Construction

    -Rino Tirikatene Customs, Associate Maori Affairs, Associate Forestry, Associate Small Business

    -Meka Whaitiri Water, Associate Regional Development, Associate Local Government, Associate Primary Industries

  19. karol 19
    23 September 2013 at 5:26 pm

    I’m particularly interested in the roles given to Louisa Wall. It’s an opportunity for her to gain experience and hopefully shine in areas important to South Aucklanders, to the young and to many on low incomes:

    16 – Louisa Wall Youth Affairs, Community and Voluntary Sector, Associate Social Development, Associate Auckland Issues (South Auckland), Associate Sport and Recreation

  20. karol 20
    23 September 2013 at 6:38 pm

    Was pleased to see that 3 News gave a pretty good report on the reshuffle – and not a Glower in sight. Tova O’Brien explained it as splitting the ABCs and had a a clip of Annette King, after identifying her as an ABCer, saying pretty much that she’dd moved on. And O’Brien picked up Cunliffe’s All Behind Cunliffe line.

  21. newsense 21
    23 September 2013 at 6:42 pm

    We need to talk about Chippy.

    Seems to have some talent, but also, to quote Trotter:

    “His vicious public attack upon Cunliffe’s character in the days following the 2012 annual conference was beyond anything Labour Party veterans could recall. Not even in the very depths of the internal conflicts over Rogernomics had a party whip resorted to language so venomous and so unrestrained.”

    And I know that many others on here are still very very angry about that.

    He’s got a promotion, will he be a good servant for the party and a good minister ?

    • Te Reo Putake 21.1
      23 September 2013 at 6:50 pm

      Concern troll is concerned.

    • Colonial Viper 21.2
      24 September 2013 at 12:26 am

      Chippie has been given a chance to really perform at Education. He received strong backing from that sector. Now he needs to make good on the faith he has been shown, take the portfolio and run with it hard, taking the fight to National.

  22. Tanz 22
    23 September 2013 at 6:52 pm

    Will Trevor Mallard even bother coming home?
    Maryan Street demoted, that is harsh.

    • Ad 22.1
      23 September 2013 at 6:58 pm

      She ran Shearer’s numbers. Marked.

      • Boadicea 22.1.1
        23 September 2013 at 10:33 pm

        And had ZERO impact in Parliament. Even Shearer demoted Street.

        • George D 22.1.1.1
          23 September 2013 at 11:17 pm

          She’s a lovely woman. But I have to wonder if she’s cut out for politics. Every elected member should be given the chance to prove themselves, and judged on their performance. As a local MP she’s failed to have any major impact on Nick Smith (that Nelson is ‘blue’ shouldn’t be used as an excuse, it’s Nick Smith we’re talking about). And as a spokesperson for health and then foreign affairs, she’s failed to make a single ripple. These are my areas, my personal and professional focus – and if I didn’t have Labour’s caucus portfolios well memorised, I wouldn’t have had a clue. It’s a hard job, to be sure. But we want the best people representing us, to make the change we need.

  23. Tracey 23
    23 September 2013 at 8:00 pm

    twyford needs to stand up and be counted now.

    good line up but WHAT WILL THEY DO NOW to win back support. thats what matters

    • tc 23.1
      24 September 2013 at 8:58 am

      Yes PT needs to knuckle down and show he can make a positive contribution as he’s been a naughty little self serving boy recently.

  24. neoleftie 24
    23 September 2013 at 8:05 pm

    Great to see meritocracy the standard of the da and not cronyism of old..
    I think this is a wake up call for the like of Clare curran, average at best and weak on judgement as well on the wrong side of the knife fight, also lost the party vote in her elctrorate.
    Time one wonders- ship up or ship,to time for a number of non performing labour mp’s.

  25. Boadicea 25
    23 September 2013 at 10:53 pm

    Annette King voted for Cunliffe in the Leadership election.
    She had no intentions of being on the wrong side.

    What position would Robertson and Ardern given her?

  26. davejac 26
    23 September 2013 at 11:40 pm

    It’s nice to see a Science spokesperson, who is a scientist, and who has Environment and Climate Change as well. Although I hope that Moana Mackey does a better job than the brief time she held the role last time- even as an interested party I didn’t really hear her put anything out.

    Innovation, Research, and Development is a different story. I like having Megan Woods in charge of it, but I have no idea why Nanaia Mahuta is the associate spokesperson. Nothing against her, but I’ve never heard of her having any interest or background in the field. I would have also liked to have seen someone with an economic development portfolio pick it up, just to show Labour is serious about wanting to do something with Science in New Zealand.

    It almost feels like it’s being left alone because Joyce is seen by people outside of research as doing a good job with it. And to a point he is, but they need someone to hold him to account.

    • karol 26.1
      24 September 2013 at 7:52 am

      Looking at the MPs’ associate roles is interesting. I think Mahuta’s been given associate science and development, lus associate regional development because they are seen as significant issues and Cunliffe wants some iinput from and connection with tangata whenua on them.

      Clare Curran is associate IT, which means she’s directly answerable to Cunliffe on that.

      Trotter is critical of broadcasting going to Faafoi, as he thinks any (Labour) government should aim for a strong independent broadcasting system.

      But note, Faafoi is also given Pacific island Affairs and IT.

      Cunliffe has said he was to develop NZ’s broadcasting in the Pacific region.

      Also, for the future, won’t broadcasting be strongly connected with IT?

      • davejac 26.1.1
        24 September 2013 at 3:48 pm

        I wonder what he expects that input to be though- if it’s primarily towards primary research I’ve got mixed feelings about that, but if it’s designed to help grow things like FOMANA and help Iwi groups to develop R&D strategies I’d be very interested to see what it brings up.

  27. lucy gray 27
    24 September 2013 at 9:20 am

    What about David Clarke?

    • bad12 27.1
      24 September 2013 at 4:16 pm

      Yes i wondered about Dr David Clark as well, i have watched Him in the House where He performs quite well when on His feet,

      i do not know where Clark sits in the political spectrum, however, He comes to the Parliament from employment at the NZ Treasury which might have counted against Him…

      • srylands 27.1.1
        24 September 2013 at 4:50 pm

        “He comes to the Parliament from employment at the NZ Treasury which might have counted against Him…”

        Why? Because it taught him to think clearly?

        • Colonial Viper 27.1.1.1
          24 September 2013 at 4:57 pm

          Downsizing of Treasury would certainly bring cost savings and societal benefits to the nation.

      • Anne 27.1.2
        24 September 2013 at 5:55 pm

        Well, I’m merely speculating but perhaps David Clark also got burnt over the combined Curran/Clark press release in the ODT, timed to appear the day that the Leadership Contest road show arrived in Dunedin. It almost seemed like they were attempting to instruct their members which way to vote. I don’t think any other Labour MPs went that far – at least not so overtly.

        Don’t know whose idea it was but suspect it was Clare Curran’s…

  28. karol 28
    24 September 2013 at 9:35 am

    Helen Clark endorses Cunliffe & says the leadership selection has breathed new life into NZ politics, RNZ Morning Report today.

    http://podcast.radionz.co.nz/mnr/mnr-20130924-0740-helen_clark_endorses_david_cunliffe-048.mp3

    • tinfoilhat 28.1
      24 September 2013 at 5:05 pm

      She endorsed Key as well ?

      Although in fairness when questioned on these type of things she has to be careful and remain somewhat removed and impartial.

  29. Jenny Michie 29
    24 September 2013 at 5:28 pm

    On reflection I think there’s two portfolios that will require more oxygen and grunt; Water is the first. This is already a significant issue in NZ and around the world – in fact some predict that the next wars will be not about oil but about water, and may require a spokesperson with more experience than Labour’s newest MP. The other isn’t yet a portfolio in any party’s line up and it’s Privacy. Again, predicted to be (and is already a major issue here and elsewhere) one of the dominant issues in the 21st century. One could say that it comes under David Cunliffe’s ICT brief but I reckon it warrants its own spokesperson in a future Labour line up.

  30. arants 30
    24 September 2013 at 6:52 pm

    One of the most significant but unremarked appointments was that of Goff as Trade spokesperson. This means that Goff has been given a free hand to work with the likes of Cosgrove in continuing to advocate for the TPPA in defiance of the Party policy and contrary to Cunliffe’s early public statement on the issue, backing away from untrammelled ‘free trade. I hear that this latitude was a pre-condition of Goff’s acceptance of the Trade role.
    No other initiative has such potential to preclude or derail a Labour programme as the TPPA. It’s a mystery why Goff has been enabled in his efforts to support the desperate efforts of the neo-liberals to entrench their gains against a future, sovereign Labour Government. Does Goff have a lever we don’t know about, or is there sympathy for his position among Cunliffe’s advisors?

    • Colonial Viper 30.1
      24 September 2013 at 7:13 pm

      Too long to bring anyone else up to speed, unfortunately.

      • arants 30.1.1
        25 September 2013 at 1:33 pm

        Up to speed with duplicity? What’s going on isn’t so complicated that someone with a foreign affairs background (say, Robertson) couldn’t demystify it.
        The alternative seems to be that we leave Goff in place, facilitate his final and most significant betrayal as an MP, and then pension him off to a plum ambassador’s role to assist Moore in advancing the neo-liberal cause on trade?

        • Tracey 30.1.1.1
          25 September 2013 at 1:48 pm

          I’ve emailed Cunliffe and asked if the appointment of pro TTPA avocate Goff changes the pledge to release the draft to the public before signing up to it>

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