Mental health problems are a figment of our imagination and the work of anti government protesters

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1. The decrypter 1

   10 May 2017 at 11:42 am

   David Clark is giving Coleman a bit of a mental stir up in the house.Coleman is getting rattled.
   • Sacha 1.1

     10 May 2017 at 2:17 pm

     Question 11 later this hour: https://www.parliament.nz/en/pb/order-paper-questions/list-of-oral-questions/oral-questions-10-may-2017/
     • mickysavage 1.1.1

       10 May 2017 at 7:41 pm

       And here is the video …

       https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoCHyuU6MfY&feature=youtu.be
   • Hanswurst 1.2

     11 May 2017 at 10:22 am

     Much as it pains me to say it, since I find Coleman’s response to the report appalling, I think that Clark was pretty much owned there. Coleman was right that the questions were repetitive and pointless. Seeing as Coleman’s answers were entirely predictable, and seeing as Clark is far from stupid, the only possible conclusion would be that he wanted those answers. The only thing I can’t fathom is why.
2. Stuff The Politicians 2

   10 May 2017 at 1:21 pm

   Did National ever have fresh ideas ?

   From what I see, they have always used others to come up with the answers and then claim them as their own.
   They do not like getting headaches by thinking.

   National Politicians are a bloody dumb bunch of empty heads.
3. Draco T Bastard 3

   10 May 2017 at 2:09 pm

   It is bizarre that such an important investigation had to be crowd funded.

   No, it was inevitable under the neo-liberal system that we operate under where ‘user pays’ is the operative ideology.

   More and more people are realising that this Government is morally bankrupt

   As long as we’re capitalist that will be true of all governments as capitalism itself is morally bankrupt.
4. Red 4

   10 May 2017 at 4:00 pm

   “I am convinced that politics in New Zealand is finally reaching a turning point. More and more people are realising that this Government is morally bankrupt, tired and bereft of ideals” Been personally convinced does not mean it is so, especially with in built bias no matter what I think you maybe disappointed at election time
5. One Anonymous Bloke 5

   10 May 2017 at 4:17 pm

   Coleman: if there were a need for a report the market would have produced one by now!

   *market produces report*

   Coleman: stupid communists!

   Urgently increase funding to mental health services.
   Conduct a national review of mental health services.
   Provide a wider range of treatment options including a full range of talking therapies, and peer support – both of which people had found to be useful and therapeutic.
   Treat people using mental health services with respect, acknowledging their experience and expertise in their own mental health, and their capacity to make good choices about their treatment.
   Involve families more in the care and support of people experiencing mental distress, and help families to give the kind of support that is needed.

   Not sure any of these recommendations are obviously tainted by political bias.

   Coleman: this shallow pool is mine! Mine I tell you! Get out of my pool! Get out!
   • tinfoilhat 5.1

     10 May 2017 at 4:47 pm

     I have met Coleman once – your parody of him is quite accurate.
     • One Anonymous Bloke 5.1.1

       10 May 2017 at 4:59 pm

       Serendipity, or deep insight. Yeah nah it was serendipity 🙂
   • mickysavage 5.2

     10 May 2017 at 7:42 pm

     +1
6. Tamati Tautuhi 6

   10 May 2017 at 7:46 pm

   Mental Health is quite a complex area, as the physicans do not actually know what is going on inside your mind, some mental health problems are caused by a chemical imbalance in the body which upsets the way the brain functions.

   Especially with bad diets the brain and the body is not getting the right nutrients to balance the mind and the body. It concerns me that modern medical thinking is based around prescribing synthetic drugs like prozac, ritalin, venlafaxine without really understanding what is happening to the whole person ?
7. rhinocrates 7

   10 May 2017 at 8:10 pm

   All we need now is Wayne to tell us that he’s feeling perfectly fine and therefore there’s no problem, just like how he has a very nice house and clean water.

   Nats seem completely incapable of imagining how it might be to be someone else. That is, they have no empathy.
8. Muttonbird 8

   10 May 2017 at 8:55 pm

   How distressing must it be for the family of Chelsea Brunton to have to listen to Mr Coleman’s dismissal of the People’s mental health report this week when their daughter and mother took her own life while Mr Coleman was fomenting left wing conspiracies in the house, in similar circumstances to Nikki Stevens two years ago.

   http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11853218
9. Michael 9

   10 May 2017 at 11:19 pm

   Maestro Coleman’s villification of the PMHR authors is deliberate: he knows perfectly well that most voters believe anyone who opposes neoliberalism is a lefty traitor. I wonder whether this explains Labour’s reluctance to oppose neoliberalism too vigorously – just enough for the cameras but not enough to unsettle the market?
10. Keith 10

    11 May 2017 at 7:02 am

    Mental health services, like nearly all government depts are suffering from a lack of money. This is real, very real. With lack of funding comes Nationals” do more with less”, less also meaning less workers, meaning higher workloads, meaning lowering quality from a sense that you cannot cope doing the job because quite simply, you cannot.

    Into this sizeable void, enter corrections and police officers, few if any who are trained to deal with people labouring under mental health problems. They are the unwilling janitors for Nationals, who gives a shit attitude. What kind of useless system does this?

    Apparently NZ is running a surplus but we not, money is simply syphoned off to prop up the governments books, to prop up National, that should be going to vital public services.

    Innocents get hurt and die because of Nationals policies. When is tge rest of NZ going to wake up ans see this. And when are the opposition going to do likewise and articulte this point?
11. Whispering Kate 11

    11 May 2017 at 10:41 am

    Mental unwellness is not just an affliction of the poor, serious mental illnesses will be present in all walks of life. What makes the difference is that wealthy people who have sons, mothers, daughters, husbands with bipolar/schizophrenia etc just shuttle their unwell family into expensive clinics, shut away from society and they get very good treatment and medication to help them to live a good life out in society, managing jobs etc – top life long care being looked after.

    The wealthy do not have to run the gauntlet of a very downtrodden mental health service with excellent staff doing their utmost to care for the mentally unwell. It’s a simply disgusting state of affairs by an uncaring government – its bad enough that people with depression who must multiply by the hundreds in this country aren’t getting the help they need, but its simply not acceptable that people with serious mental health issues are being seriously neglected and that the police/corrections have to be professional health workers to see to their needs. A broken back would get immediate specialist care and rightly so – a broken mind is just an aberration in the minds of our politicians.

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