Trump fires Comey

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So much for checks and balances. The Guardian is running live coverage: James Comey fired: Trump sacks FBI director, White House says – live (Updated)

What we know so far

FBI director James Comey has been fired by Donald Trump, who said in a letter that Comey was being “terminated and removed” because he was “not able to effectively lead the bureau.

The sacking came after attorney general Jeff Sessions and deputy attorney general Rod Rosenstein recommended to Trump that he be removed over his handling of the Hillary Clinton email investigation, but critics believe the dismissal is more closely linked to Comey’s role in investigating Trump’s allies over alleged links to Russian interference in the 2016 election.

Comey found out he had been fired while speaking to FBI employees in Los Angeles. He reportedly thought it was a prank.

The controversial move has been condemned by Democrats, many of whom said the sacking was “Nixonian” and some high profile Republicans including Trump supporters.

Justin Amash, a Republican congressman from Michigan said he was reviewing legislation to establish an independent commission on Russia in the wake of the news.

Richard Burr, a Republican leading the Senate intelligence committee investigation into Russia’s influence over the 2016 presidential election, said he was “troubled by the timing and reasoning” of the decision.

Chuck Schumer, Democratic minority leader in the Senate, said he told Trump he was “making a very big mistake.”

Meanwhile, a CNN report claims that a grand jury has been convened and has started issuing subpoenas relating to the FBI’s Russia probe. The development, if confirmed suggests the investigation has entered a new phase.

Several Democratic officials have compared Trump’s decision to fire Comey to Richard Nixon’s “Saturday night massacre” when the president removed the special Watergate prosecutor, Archibald Cox, leading to the the resignation of attorney general Elliot Richardson.

Senator Bob Casey called the termination “Nixonian” in a statement and noted Comey’s earlier statements saying he was authorized by the justice department to confirm the FBI’s investigations into Russian interference with American elections:

This is Nixonian. Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein must immediately appoint a special counsel to continue the Trump/Russia investigation. On March 20th Director Comey said, ‘I have been authorized by the Department of Justice to confirm that the FBI, as part of our counterintelligence mission, is investigating the Russian government’s efforts to interfere in the 2016 presidential election and that includes investigating the nature of any links between individuals associated with the Trump campaign and the Russian government and whether there was any coordination between the campaign and Russia’s efforts.’

This investigation must be independent and thorough in order to uphold our nation’s system of justice.”

Here’s a quick overview of Comey’s legacy in the FBI and recent political controversies:

Comey’s FBI conducted investigations into both Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump during the 2016 election – though he only disclosed the investigation into Trump’s ties with Russia after his inauguration.
The FBI director’s controversial decision to release new details about the investigation into Clinton’s email server just days before the election prompted widespread outrage – and lingering suspicion that he swayed the final outcome.
Comey was appointed to the top FBI post by Barack Obama in 2013. He served in the George W Bush administration as a US attorney and deputy attorney general, before spending several years in the private sector.
Comey was the country’s top law enforcement during the period of turbulence over police killings of African Americans. He drew widespread condemnation for statements suggesting that violent crime was rising because law enforcement had been hampered by the so-called “Ferguson effect”.
Comey also waged a high-profile campaign against encryption, calling for tech companies to create “backdoors” to allow law enforcement access to user’s data.

72 comments on “Trump fires Comey”

  1. Sable 1

    In my opinion the problem isn’t who heads up the FBI , its the FBI itself. What it does (and fails to do) and what it stands for (and what it should stand for).

  2. Ad 2

    Comey was the difference, and Nate Silver has the breakdown on the effect of Comey’s release into the last two weeks of the campaign.

    Hillary Clinton would have been a better President than Donald Trump,
    but Donald Trump is a better DNC renewal programme.

    On balance it’s working out.

    • Your sense of balance is distorted imo if you think it’s working out.

    • xanthe 2.2

      I have to agree, with you Ad here, Had the DNC won the election they would have continued their perversion of the democratic process to new and greater heights.

      That the Don was the only other option was unfortunate, but largely the direct result of the DNC’s machinations anyway.

      sometimes the wrong option becomes the only option!

    • Wainwright 2.3

      Certianly working out great for all the sick babies and rape victims who can’t get healthcare in the richest nation in the world, but hoo-rah for the leftwing project, that’s what matters.

      • Sabine 2.3.1

        Women and children are chattel. Only good to breed and work. Or in other words they are the “identity issues” certain on the so called left and surely non of the right wingers and libertarian care not about.

        • rhinocrates 2.3.1.1

          Exactly. The last few months have been a depressing, disheartening time – not only because of the ascendency of the far right, but because self-proclaimed progressive leftists have declared so many real, living people ‘expendable’ to their nebulous aims and then had the nerve to accuse those ‘expendables’ of playing ‘identity politics.’

          If you want to burn houses down to bring on your revolution, burn your own down first and lead by example.

    • rhinocrates 2.4

      Well isn’t that just jolly for the twenty million plus who’ve lost their health coverage, or the Muslims, or the deported Latin-Americans, or the people of Standing Rock or…? Do you intend to thank them personally for their sacrifice?

    • D'Esterre 2.5

      Ad: “Hillary Clinton would have been a better President than Donald Trump”
      Had Clinton won, Comey would have been gone, probably before the inauguration was over.
      And into the bargain, she’d have started a whole raft of new invasions and attempts at regime change. Lucky escape thus far…
      Regarding Comey’s sacking, see this: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/james-comey-fired-memo-letter-in-full-rod-rosenstein-read-trump-sacks-fbi-director-a7727246.html
      Reading that, I realised how wildly inaccurate the reporting’s been, both here and elsewhere. I guess I shouldn’t be surprised at what’s been reported here: our msm simply uncritically repeat what’s broadcast overseas. No attempt at analysis, no scepticism.

      • Sabine 2.5.1

        well phew we are lucky then that all that shit that you are so worried about is only happening under the most benevolent of them all Donald J Trump.

        seriously for a moment i was worried, but yeah, thanks for making it all better.

  3. Xanthe 3

    It was the right thing to do IMHO, he was too compromised
    Whether it is a good thing or not long term is anyones guess

    • North 3.1

      Pathetic Xanthe. Stand in for that (T)rumpeting zealot (C)olonal (V)apour are you ?

  4. Draco T Bastard 4

    Comey heard the news while giving a speech

    Mr. Comey was addressing a group of F.B.I. employees in Los Angeles when a television in the background flashed the news that he had been fired.

    In response, Mr. Comey laughed, saying he thought it was a fairly funny prank.

    Then his staff started scurrying around in the background and told Mr. Comey that he should step into a nearby office.

    Due process and all that is obviously not required in this New Age that looks remarkably like what unaccountable aristocrats used to get away with.

    • xanthe 4.1

      Well the American people would have good reason to expect a few “your fired” moments. cant disappoint the fans now can we.
      Conduct of FBI in promoting “the russians stole the election” without evidence is simple dishonesty.
      “Due process” in case of dishonesty is usually “your fired” ….. done!

      • Draco T Bastard 4.1.1

        “Due process” in case of dishonesty is usually “your fired” ….. done!

        There’s usually the being called into the office, the evidence presented and then the ‘you’re fired’.

        The person being fired doesn’t learn about it via TV while he’s doing his job.

        • xanthe 4.1.1.1

          How would that be good TV ? 🙂

          in any case “the evidence” here (for participating in misleading the public) is all in public domain. If trump has the power to fire Comey (an untested assumption !) then he is obliged at some point to make the call. if the dishonesty is immediate and ongoing then “your fired” however delivered is the proper call.

  5. xanthe 5

    Hmmm having read the actual documents (belatedly) i see that the reason given for the recommendation to fire was around the public statements when the investigation of Clintons emails was closed and Comeys refusal to back down over his actions then. Which is all fair enough and needs to be seen in the context Comey continuing to make public declarations on matters he should remain silent on.

    • Andre 5.1

      Given your attitude to pretty much all other information sources, it’s remarkable you seem to be accepting Trump’s words at face value.

    • Phil 5.2

      i see that the reason given for the recommendation to fire was around the public statements when the investigation of Clintons emails was closed and Comeys refusal to back down over his actions then

      Those reasons for potentially sacking Comey were in existence before the November election.

      Trump has been president for three and a half months and could have fired him at any time since January 20, yet chose not to.

      Why? What changed?

      • Xanthe 5.2.1

        Not so fast, i said his refusal to back down, what has changed is that Comey went on to make statements about matters that he should not, in particular stoking the russions did it bullshit and openly attacking wikileaks , making statements as fact when the facts are not known. He wasn’t sacked two months ago because it was not known that he would continue on that course, he did and he was

  6. esoteric pineapples 6

    For anyone wanting to keep right up to date with what is going on regarding Trump and Russia I recommend Keith Olbermann. He has been on the money the whole time. He pointed out that there were likely two Grand Juries investigating Trump about a week ago. He is brilliant at reading between the lines.

    • joe90 6.1

      Boom.

      Washington (CNN)Federal prosecutors have issued grand jury subpoenas to associates of former National Security Advisor Michael Flynn seeking business records, as part of the ongoing probe of Russian meddling in last year’s election, according to people familiar with the matter. CNN learned of the subpoenas hours before President Donald Trump fired FBI director James Comey.

      http://edition.cnn.com/2017/05/09/politics/grand-jury-fbi-russia/index.html

      • Xanthe 6.1.1

        Key line ” according to people familiar with the matter” ie “we made that bit up”)

        • mauī 6.1.1.1

          and the “russian meddling” bit. Just laughable. Get over the election already.

          • marty mars 6.1.1.1.1

            would you really be that surprised by russian meddling? It makes perfect sense for so many reasons – I’d be surprised if they DIDN’T meddle – they’d be up for the firing squad if they neglected their duty to make the best possible situation for russia.

            • mauī 6.1.1.1.1.1

              Trump doing a dodgy business deal with some russians I wouldn’t be surpised with. The russians influencing an election? I mean is there anything friendly the ruskies can do in the eyes of the us establishment? Hmm there’s one country that’s an expert in meddling, just the other day Obama came out in support of Macron leading up to the French…

              • Yes the Russians trying to influence the US elections. – your sentences after the question mark are not related to that question.

      • marty mars 6.1.2

        yep it certainly seems like flynn was tainted and compromised imo – the detail will sort trump out – he won’t be able to create distance, he will get singed – at least I hope so.

      • Andre 6.1.3

        Such a tangled web.

        http://edition.cnn.com/interactive/2017/politics/trump-russia-connections/

        Imagine if all those dodgy dealings were investigated with the vigour Ken Starr put into Whitewater. The entire FBI might not be enough to do it.

    • D'Esterre 6.2

      Esoteric pineapples: Haha, that Keith Olbermann piece is bollix from beginning to end, isn’t it?
      Money from Russia: good grief! In the first instance, there was and is no crime in their doing business in Russia, however much money was involved. Secondly, that was before Trump announced his intention to run for president. What is Olbermann suggesting? That the wealthy Russians he purportedly borrowed money from were seers and foresaw his ascension to the presidency? Sure…

      • Phil 6.2.1

        Secondly, that was before Trump announced his intention to run for president. What is Olbermann suggesting? That the wealthy Russians he purportedly borrowed money from were seers and foresaw his ascension to the presidency?

        Trump has been sniffing around a run at the presidency since at least 2010, because he seriously considered running for the 2012 Republican nomination. I’m sure that his Russian business associates were quite happy to help with a presidential bid, because they know that a Trump presidency is good for their business.

        The issue fundamentally isn’t that Trump does business with foreign investors or governments. It’s that he continues to blatantly lie about it and obstruct the American people from knowing the nature of the influence those foreign associates have on him.

        • D'Esterre 6.2.1.1

          Phil: “Trump has been sniffing around a run at the presidency since at least 2010, because he seriously considered running for the 2012 Republican nomination.”
          My point stands. He didn’t actually do it then. And he wasn’t a contender at all until last year. So no percentage in anyone buttering him up financially any earlier.
          “The issue fundamentally isn’t that Trump does business with foreign investors…. It’s that he continues to blatantly lie about it and obstruct the American people from knowing the nature of the influence those foreign associates have on him.”
          Precisely. So leave off with the Russia critique. In virtue of what should anyone leap to the conclusion that business contacts in that part of the world must a priori be shady, yet doing business in the UK or the EU would be unexceptionable? This looks like McCarthyism, unfortunately.

  7. Anne 8

    Comey was being “terminated and removed” because he was “not able to effectively lead the bureau.

    Bullshit and jelly beans.

    He’s been ‘sacked’ because he refused to stop the investigation into Trump’s links to the Russian hacking of Hillary Clinton’s emails etc.

    There’s nothing surer. If James Comey has been the victim of a major set-up preceding the presidential election – and it’s starting to look a bit that way – then he should spill the beans and do it fast!

    Trump’s presidency is certainly getting a real Nixonian feel about it, so we can look forward to the a*****e’s impeachment within the year.

    • RedLogix 8.1

      Nixon was many, many decades ago and in those times the US democratic process was far more robust and healthy. Now I think we are seeing some far more bleak choices. In particular there must be some considerable disquiet in the US military about the prospects of nuclear confrontation in Asia.

      Personally I’ve just increased the odds of a military coup from 1% to say 10%.

      • Wayne 8.1.1

        Red Logix

        I would put the prospects of a military coup at zero.

        This will play out entirely at the congressional level. It is the sort of action to galvanise the Democrats to push for as many inquiries as possible.

        I reckon it will take many months. Given the climate in Washington, this could paralyze, or least bog down, the Trump administration. It will be harder for Republican congressional members to march lock step with the administration. Some will now start worrying about their re-election prospects.

        Will Comey be called to testify? Will a special prosecutor be appointed?

        I am sure much more to come.

        • Andre 8.1.1.1

          There’s also the Department of Justice. With Sessions recused from the Russia investigation, that’s now in Rosenstein’s hands. We’re about to find out what he’s made of.

          https://thinkprogress.org/the-two-things-you-need-to-know-about-the-comey-firing-aad9e2842be2

        • RedLogix 8.1.1.2

          Traditionally I would agree with you Wayne. The US military has a very deep respect for the chain of command ending with a civilian President.

          But these are not conventional times. What I’m sensing is a convergence. First of all any attempt by Washington would be greeted by a violent reaction from his supporters. Secondly this is going to throw Washington into a firestorm of political and constitutional controversy, there is zero possibility of the politicians replacing Trump in an orderly fashion … as happened with Nixon.

          Now throw in the very immediate and non-zero possibility of nuclear confrontation in Asia. Possibly just days away. A first strike by the USA, with all its highly unpredictable consequences would make the USA a pariah state. The world would have to turn against them.

          And oddly enough I think it is the military who more than anyone else, viscerally understand these frightful truths.

          • rhinocrates 8.1.1.2.1

            We’re in uncharted waters. While a military coup seems to me unlikely in the short term, I too would not rule it out. There’s a lot of sentiment that’s not overt, but deep and strongly felt. Speaking to US military veterans, there’s a lot of resentment of how the military has been treated by the executive and how veterans are treated. Despite some very superficial jingoistic valorisation of the military, actual combat veterans with narratives contrary to the official line are treated as an embarrassment by the legislature and executive – and they know it and they do not like it.

            Soldiers care in their bones about their honour and if Orange Jesus continues to treat the military as a dildo, congress continues to abuse veterans and as word has it, he continues to abuse and humiliate his chief military advisor, there may be consequences. It may be a small group that organises itself to commit terrorist acts, or it may be a larger, more organised operation that focuses on government itself.

            I do consider a coup unlikely in the short term, but in the long term, ‘more’ does not mean ‘more of the same.’ Trump is obviously not someone who will take restraint willingly and humbly. He will escalate.

      • Anne 8.1.2

        Nixon was many, many decades ago.

        Four and a bit decades ago. That’s not long, but I take your point about the US democratic process being more robust in those days. However, I still believe his presidency is not going to last the full term. Indeed, if it follows the Nixon years he will resign the moment he sees the writing on the wall… claim he’s the victim of a terrible set-up and his dim-witted supporters will believe it.

    • Andre 8.2

      “Trump’s presidency is certainly getting a real Nixonian feel about it”

      The Nixon Presidential Library is offended by the comparisons. Nixon never fired the FBI director.

      https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2017/05/09/notnixonian-richard-nixon-library-pokes-trump-over-comey-firing/101491832/

      • Johan 8.2.1

        To Andre,
        ….and of course we all know that Nixon resigned quietly. instead of being publicly humiliated due to the impeachment process. I fear (not really) that Trump’s reign on Capital Hill will a short one. Watch the investigations unveil Donald’s money trail.
        The Americans cannot be that stupid to have this clown continue to make a mockery of their politics.

        • Andre 8.2.1.1

          Sadly, impeachment has nothing to do with the wrongs that the Chump is doing. There’s already plenty he should have already been impeached for, starting with the Emoluments clause in Article 1 of the Constitution. (He’s in violation of one of the very first things the founders saw fit to mention. Let that sink in). It’s purely about politics.

          Impeachment won’t happen until enough Repugs in the House and the Senate decide the Chump is too damaging to their personal political futures. Right now that means at least 20 Senators and 25ish Representatives have to decide that earning the undying enmity of Trump’s loyal base is less damaging than sticking with Trump (assuming no Democrats decide it’s in their interest to have Trump continue staining the Repugs). That’s a big ask.

          • Johan 8.2.1.1.1

            “Sadly, impeachment has nothing to do with the wrongs that the Chump is doing. Think Again!

    • D'Esterre 8.3

      Anne: “He’s been ‘sacked’ because he refused to stop the investigation into Trump’s links to the Russian hacking of Hillary Clinton’s emails etc.”
      And you know this: how exactly? Abstract away from the McCarthyist pursuit of the Russian hacking furphy, and what remains is the memo detailing the reasons for Comey’s sacking. At the risk of being repetitive, here it is again: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/james-comey-fired-memo-letter-in-full-rod-rosenstein-read-trump-sacks-fbi-director-a7727246.html

  8. james 9

    Worlds easiest prediction (other than Corbyn having his arse handed to him in the UK elections).

    This will come back to bite Trump in the ass waaaaaay more than he expects.

  9. Andre 11

    Trevor Noah, who’s been a bit closer to African dictators than most of us, puts in his two cents.

    “Right now, even Africans are watching this going, ‘Yo, yo, yo, yo! Donald Trump does not fuck around, yeah?”

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/the-daily-show-trump-fires-comey_us_59128f6ae4b05e1ca202ff00?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009

  10. Anne 12

    Oh look… the day after he fires the F.B.I. director, Donald Trump is to meet with Russia’s foreign minister.

    Just coincidence my dear Watson… just coincidence. (sarc)

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-sergey-lavrov-james-comey-russia-firing-fbi-director-foreign-minister-white-house-putin-a7727511.html

    Donald Trump will meet Vladimir Putin’s senior diplomat at the White House on Wednesday in a signal that US relations with Russia have improved.

    I bet they have! (more sarc)

  11. Foreign waka 13

    So Mr Trump sacked the man that helped him winning the election and is-was in charge of the investigation of any Russian connection. Regardless of the politics instead of policies in the US, this move really is revealing of the administration. But since the public votes and most likely 80% of them wouldn’t have a clue about what just happened, we will see more of the same.
    The statue of liberty just shed some tears.

  12. Stuart Munro 14

    It’s only surprising because Comey’s electoral interference put Trump in (or is that Putin Trump?). Obama should have thrown Comey in Guantanamo – but he stopped caring 5-6 years ago. The FBI may be destabilized – big win for the Russian espiocracy if it is.

  13. Andre 15

    The WhiteHouse is apparently surprised there’s blowback. They thought they could just blame Comey’s mishandling of the Clinton investigation and that would make everyone happy. Fukn amateurs.

    “But the fallout seemed to take the White House by surprise. Trump made a round of calls around 5 p.m., asking for support from senators. White House officials believed it would be a “win-win” because Republicans and Democrats alike have problems with the FBI director, one person briefed on their deliberations said.”

    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/10/comey-firing-trump-russia-238192

    • Anne 15.1

      From the link:

      the fallout seemed to take the White House by surprise… White House officials believed it would be a “win-win” because Republicans and Democrats alike had had problems with the FBI director, one person briefed on the administration’s deliberations said.

      The naivety is gob-smacking.

  14. Andre 16

    Who saw this coming? Another early-morning tweetstorm…

    https://www.vox.com/2017/5/10/15608924/trump-comey-tweets-blumenthal

  15. peterh 17

    So Russia hacked Hollywood
    Russia hacked Clinton
    Very soon you will find Russia hacked the NZ Govt
    Meanwhile a very large German sits back and smiles

  16. dv 18

    what will Comey leak now?

  17. Ad 19

    I’m liking this firing more and more.

    Granted, Comey was a non-partisan and highly respected public servant who had served multiple Presidents without fear or favour. Granted.

    But there’s some plus sides for US politics.

    Democrats and the media will be able to show that Trump gets more and more unstable. Great for the mid-terms coming.

    Politicos would describe Comey’s firing as Trump hunting down one of the last mammals in the Washington Swamp, so the whole thing can can go full reptile.

    Republicans can see now that even when they get a win as in the Congress healthcare vote, this kind of President can blow all that goodwill away in a second. Republicans hold both Senate and Congress, but they do not control him.

    Trump supporters show that the President is re-establishing the President as the biggest game in town. He looks like he is enjoying usilizing his available instruments of power.

    The MSM are currently misreading that as the rise of a tyrant. I view it – so far – as re-establishing the proper balance of a democratically elected leader of the world’s most powerful country.

    Trump critics can point to him as a person who will always “play the man, not the ball”. He has no capacity for structural reform, but in his own way he will make the top of military-industrial complex completely beholden to himself alone.

    However those below the top brass will be in full “leak like a sieve and wait this guy out” mode. That started in the Kennedy era: Bobbly Kennedy to J. Edgar Hoover. Hoover had the dirt on the whole family.

    Plus, unlike competent Obama’s educated smugness sucking the air out of the room, politics is back. It’s a circus. It’s finally interesting again. It’s more than a managerial exercise. It’s what it should be, which is a blood sport with some rules.

    I’m honestly beginning to enjoy the show.

    • Andre 19.1

      Lemme guess, you’re hankering for a return of the Roman circuses. But it was the Christians that got fed to the lions.

      • Ad 19.1.1

        I’m guessing you can remember a time when politics was interesting?

        He’s bringing the “you’re fired” back to public life. Obama had his chance to do a root and branch clearout and tilt the entire public service his way. He did a bit, but so many of his decisions took too long because there was high institutional resistance.

        The perfect combination for the Democrats is this:
        A flailing, steaming President who achieves very little and takes the Republican Senate majority with him when he is either impeached or flames out going for his second term.

        The perfect combination for democracy reasserting its primacy is this:
        Burn it all down.

        Marshmallow time.

        • Andre 19.1.1.1

          Yeah. Marshmallows. I’ve already gone through enough popcorn to put me off for life.

          But in the meantime a shitload of vulnerable people are going to get seriously further damaged or prematurely dead. It’s a helluva price to pay.

          • Ad 19.1.1.1.1

            The worst thing about democratic renewal is that even on its worst day it’s still better than all of the alternatives.

            • Andre 19.1.1.1.1.1

              I’m not yet confident this will be good for the Dems in 2020.

              Let me put an alternate scenario: the Repugs hold their hyperpartisanship and stick with Trump no matter what until 2018. The Dems get a massive popular vote majority in 2018, but only a small seat majority in the House (coz gerrymandering) and the Repugs keep the Senate (coz the Senate map is really bad for Dems in 2018). Still, the Repugs are spooked by the vote swing and get rid of Trump. Then the massive sense of relief that “things are back to normal” and “Republicans have regained their sanity” returns Pence to the White House for four years of competent evil.

              • Ad

                If Trump had been competent, solid, and substantial …

                If Congress hadn’t passed the new healthcare act …

                If the broad activist alliances hadn’t occurred …

                If most of the MSM media hadn’t turned against him …

                If the rest of the world had turned super-nationalist conservative …

                If Trump had been able to deliver for the rustbelt and working families …

                … then he and the Republicans might have had a shot.

                Maybe it will all be forgiven, Trump will turn around, all will go swimmingly well, and he will raise a great tide of Republican voting again.

                Maybe. But that’s just not the trend right now.
                It’s all going straight the other way for him and the Republicans.

    • Historian Pete 19.2

      You seem to be under the illusion that the U.S. is a Democracy.With both Democrats and Republicans their representatives are hopelessly corrupt,and big money interests decide who gets elected! Its like arguing whether or not the bandmaster on the Titanic stole a band members oboe as they head for the iceberg!

  18. Glenn 20

    Employees fired by Trump

    Sally Yates
    Preet Bharara
    James Comey

    Employees investigating Trump

    Sally Yates
    Preet Bharara
    James Comey

    • UncookedSelachimorpha 20.1

      Good observation!

      Unbelievably – an element of self-interest might have crept into Trump’s decisions.

  19. Andre 21

    When the best defense your own people can come up with is: he’s not as bad as Hitler. Give him time, give him time, he hasn’t even had four months yet…

    http://www.salon.com/2017/05/10/republican-congressman-says-that-trumps-possible-problems-are-small-potatoes-compared-to-nazi-germany/

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    To Protect and Serve: When the Prime Minister finds herself enmeshed in the coils of a full-blown political scandal, her colleagues and party comrades have only one priority: to release her as swiftly – and with as little lasting injury – as possible. Is this what Jacinda Ardern’s colleagues and ...
    1 day ago
  • The rot at the top.
    When military leaders cover up and lie to elected civilian authorities, the foundation of democratic civil-military relations is undermined because it is those authorities who are entrusted to hold the military accountable to the public that they mutually serve. But this is only true if civilian political authorities take their ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    2 days ago
  • Challenging the voting age in court
    The Make It 16 campaign to lower the voting age is launching this afternoon, and they have already announced plans to challenge the law in court:The campaign, named "Make it 16" will launch at Parliament on Friday, with plans to take their case to the High Court, testing the rights ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago
  • Israel’s elections herald a long siesta
    by Daphna Whitmore The long years of Netanyahu’s reign are drawing to an end. For years he has epitomized reactionary zionism as he oversaw hundreds of thousands of Jewish settlers seize land in the West Bank. There are now 700,000 settlers, putting an end to the myth that Israel was ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    2 days ago
  • Petrol companies promise prices will come back down once peace is restored to the Middle East
    BP, Z and Mobil all insist that petrol price hikes are temporary, “in a very literal sense.” The nation’s major petrol providers are trying to allay customer fears over prices, promising that they’ll move to lower them again “immediately” when the Middle East is returned to its formerly peaceful state. ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 days ago
  • All Blacks unveil boat for Rugby World Cup 2019
    South African coach Rassie Erasmus says he has no idea what they’re going to do about the boat. In a highly anticipated press conference this afternoon, All Blacks coach Steve Hansen has finally unveiled the team’s boat for its Rugby World Cup 2019 campaign. In a press conference that went ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 days ago
  • An increasingly shoddy coverup
    The Operation Burnham inquiry continued to question senior NZDF staff today, and their shoddy coverup over their knowledge of civilian casualties continue to fall apart. If you recall, first, we were asked to believe that it was all a series of "mistakes and errors": a senior officer with multiple degrees ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago
  • If we are to avoid making the earth uninhabitable, we need to rapidly decarbonise our civilisation, and cut emissions to zero as quickly as possible. This seems like an impossible task, but its not. Pushing hard on a few technologies and trends will let us halve emissions in a decade:Greenhouse ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago
  • A further attack on transparency
    The Local Government Act 2002 Amendment Bill (No 2) had part of its committee stage yesterday. its a generally tedious bill about the nitty-gritty of local government reorganisation. But it includes a clause making the Local Government Commission subject to the Ombudsmen Act, and hence the OIA. Great! Except of ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago
  • Ihumātao and Treaty settlements
    Yesterday Ihumātao's mana whenua reached a consensus that they would like their land back, and asked the government to negotiate with Fletcher's for its return. The government's response? Try and undermine that consensus, while talking about how doing anything would undermine existing Treaty settlements. The first is just more bad ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago
  • Protecting our history
    Its Suffrage Day, the 126th anniversary of women winning the right to vote (but not stand in elections) in New Zealand. And to celebrate, the government has bought Kate Sheppard's house in Christchurch:The government has bought Kate Sheppard's former home in Christchurch for more than $4 million. The Ilam villa ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago
  • Climate Change: Ostracising the coal-burners
    The UN climate summit is happening in new York next week, and unlike previous years, coal-burners and denier-states are not being invited to speak:Leading economies such as Japan and Australia will not be invited to speak at next week’s crunch UN climate change summit, as their continued support for coal ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago
  • Jojo Tamihere Salutes Herr Goff.
    Get Back Jojo! The elation in Mayor Phil Goff’s camp may be easily imagined as they watched social media light up in indignation at challenger John Tamihere’s "Sieg Heil to that" quip. Just when JT’s notoriously right-wing, sexist and homophobic stains were beginning to fade back into his ‘colourful’ past, ...
    3 days ago
  • Hard News: A fun but flawed weed documentary
    Patrick Gower is good value when he's high. Not that I've ever, you know, got stoned with him. But in the second part of his documentary Patrick Gower on Weed, he does what you'd expect in a modern weed documentary and immerses himself – first with a doctor, then a ...
    3 days ago
  • Candidate Survey: Western Bay of Plenty – Local Body Elections 2019
    We surveyed candidates on their attitudes to issues facing the Western Bay Region, find out what they think: “Closing the Gap” Tauranga, one of the area groups of Income Equality Aotearoa NZ Inc., has surveyed all candidates in the three local body elections to discover attitudes to some basic issues ...
    Closing the GapBy Tracey Sharp
    3 days ago
  • Project Nettie calls on scientists to defend biology
    Please spread widely, and sign, to support science and rationalism over the new irrationalism sweeping universities and institutions.  PROJECT NETTIE Sexual reproduction, the generation of offspring by fusion of genetic material from two different individuals, evolved over 1 billion years ago. It is the reproductive strategy of all higher animals ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    3 days ago
  • I’m glad I don’t live in Auckland
    Just when I was thinking that Palmerston North's mayoral race (which includes a convicted child molester / public wanker and a convicted child beater) was the worst in the country, Auckland mayoral candidate John Tamihere opened his mouth:Auckland mayoral candidate John Tamihere is being slammed for using the words "sieg ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago
  • Index of Power Update, 2018-19: China #2
    We reprint below an article from the excellent website the Economics of Imperialism by Tony Norfield This is an update of the statistics for my Index of Power, using data for 2018-19 and discussing what a country’s ranking reflects. The major change is that China’s rank has shifted up and ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    3 days ago
  • Climate Change: A history lesson
    Why is New Zealand climate change policy so crap? The Herald this morning has a long article on the twists and turns of climate change policy in New Zealand [paywalled / depaywall script], which shows where we've been. The short version is that the government first began worrying about this ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • What the All Blacks Mean to Us
    The All Blacks have been, for more than a century, arguably the most successful International sports team in the world. But they are more than that; even for those Kiwis who are immune to the charms of rugby (and there are more than a few), the All Blacks are ambassadors ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    4 days ago
  • No one is born into the wrong body
    A short and incredibly powerful speech from a young lesbian woman. No one is born in the wrong body. ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    4 days ago
  • Contempt
    Back in June, the UK Court of Appeal ruled that that country's continued arms sales to Saudi Arabia were unlawful. So you'd expect that the UK government stopped approving them, right?Of course not:The government has apologised for breaching a court ruling against the sale of weapons to Saudi Arabia that ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • Covering up the cover-up
    Yesterday NZDF officials were put on the stand about the lies they had told over Operation Burnham, making implausible claims that it was all a big mistake. But along the way, we learned they had already been put on the spot about it by a previous Defence Minister, who had ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • Not as important as they think they are
    Farmers have been whining a lot lately, about the methane targets in the Zero Carbon Bill, about Canterbury's proposed nitrogen limits, and about the government's new proposals to stop them from shitting in our lakes and rivers. These policies are "throwing farmers under the tractor", they will force farmers off ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • Behind Every Good Woman Should Stand – Another Good Woman.
    Alone, Alone, All, All, Alone: To argue that the Prime Minister is the victim of her advisers’ failure to keep her informed may offer Jacinda some measure of exoneration – but only at the cost of casting her as a hopeless political ingénue. A star-dusted muppet, whose only purpose is to ...
    5 days ago
  • Poor quality, poorly educated kiddie ‘Journalists’ spreading fake news
    In times of hysteria about the “World coming to an end” and “rising sea levels” so-called ‘Journalists’ who can barely spell words longer than four letters are having a ball! Though the majority of the Public have worked out that manmade climate change is nothing short of pseudo-science, and the ...
    An average kiwiBy admin@averagekiwi.com
    5 days ago
  • Chris Trotter on the BFD
    I don't want to give pblicity to certain parts of the internet that are better left to fester in their own irrelevance (I know, a bit like this place) but the listing of Chris Trotter as a 'author' on Cameron Slater's spinoff website, the BFD requires some explanation.Now, I don't ...
    5 days ago
  • Sex is not a spectrum
    The text below is a Twitter thread by Heather Heying that explains the essence of sexual reproduction and it long evolutionary history. She is an evolutionary biologist and a “professor-in-exile” after she and her husband, Bret Weinstein, stood up to supporters of an enforced “Day of Absence” for white staff and teachers ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    5 days ago
  • Climate Change: Trees, aviation, and offsets
    With crunch time for new Zealand climate policy approaching, most of the New Zealand media have got on board with a global reporting effort to cover the issue. There's one strand of stories today about polling and what it shows about changing public attitudes to the crisis, but the strand ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • Pissing-Off The Israelis Is A High-Risk Strategy.
    Dangerous Foes: For those readers of Bowalley Road who feel disposed to dismiss any prospect of an Israeli destabilisation of New Zealand politics, the example of the United Kingdom repays close attention. Ever since the election of Jeremy Corbyn as leader of the British Labour Party, the Israelis have sanctioned, funded and ...
    5 days ago
  • Something to go to in Wellington
    Make It 16, the youth-led campaign to lower New Zealand's voting age, is holding an official campaign launch at Parliament this Friday from 16:30. If you'd like to attend, you can register using EventBrite here. ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • A founding member responds to Peace Action Wellington
    by Don Franks It was a lovely sunny Wellington afternoon with blue skies above  the beaches.  In Courtenay Place, political activists packed out a stuffy upstairs room for an important meeting. The assembled pacifists, anarchists, communists and independent young radicals of Peace Action Wellington felt the need for a mission ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    5 days ago
  • “Mistakes and errors”
    Current and former NZDF top brass are being publicly grilled this week by the hit and run inquiry over their public responses to allegations of civilian casualties. Previously, they've claimed there were no casualties, a position which led them to lie to Ministers and to the public. Now, they're saying ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • “Homosexuality is same-sex attraction and relationships, not heterosexuals with delusions of gende...
    by Rafael D. Quiles (gender-critical gay man from Puerto Rico) The writing on the wall is right in people’s faces and people just don’t see it or don’t want to. What could actually possess a heterosexual male to want to feminize himself and claim that he is a lesbian? Because ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    6 days ago
  • Trump: “Where’s my favourite dictator?”
    From the Wall Street Journal:Inside a room of the ornately decorated Hotel du Palais during last month’s Group of Seven summit in Biarritz, France, President Trump awaited a meeting with Egyptian President Abdel Fattah Al Sisi. Mr. Trump looked over a gathering of American and Egyptian officials and called out in ...
    6 days ago
  • Magdalen Burns, 1983-2019, fighter for women’s liberation
    by the Redline blog collective At Redline we are very saddened to hear of the death of Magdalen Burns who passed away on the morning of Friday, September 13 (British time). Magdalen was a great fighter for the rights of women in general and lesbian women in particular, a defender ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    1 week ago
  • Parliament and the Executive
    The Brexit issue has certainly brought with it a series of apparently difficult constitutional issues, many of them concerning the respective roles of the executive and parliament. Most of them arise because of the unwillingness of MPs, despite their professions to the contrary, to be bound by a constitutional rarity ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    1 week ago
  • The Abigail Article; Martyn Bradbury’s Article, and My Response
    . . This blogpost is different to my usual format of reporting on issues… Since July 1011, I have blogged on a variety of political issues; near always political and/or environmental; mostly highly critical of the previous National Government. Other issues included Israeli occupation of Palestinian lands and repression of ...
    Frankly SpeakingBy Frank Macskasy
    1 week ago
  • Police will have to wear silly Buckingham Palace hats from now on, says Police Minister
    Those close to the Police Minister believe the initiative may be the result of Nash “seeing a great deal” on AliExpress. In a move that comes seemingly out of nowhere, Police Minister Stuart Nash announced this afternoon that he expects all frontline staff to don bearskin hats, famously worn by ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • A sensible crackdown
    The government has released its Arms Legislation Bill, containing the second tranche of changes to gun laws following the March 15 massacre. And it all looks quite sensible: a national gun register, higher penalties for illegal possession and dealing, tighter restrictions on arms dealers and shooting clubs, and a shorter ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • California bans private prisons
    Private prisons are a stain on humanity. Prison operators explicitly profit from human misery, then lobby for longer prisons terms so they can keep on profiting. And in the US, prison companies run not only local and state prisons, but also Donald Trump's immigration concentration camps. Faced with this moral ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Why PPPs are a bad idea
    When National was in power, they were very keen on Public-Private Partnerships (PPPs) - basicly, using private companies to finance public infrastructure as a way of hiding debt from the public. They were keen on using them for everything - roads, schools, hospitals. But as the UK shows, that "service" ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • A Movement That No Longer Moves.
    Moving And Shaking: There was a time when people spoke matter-of-factly about the “labour movement” – a political phenomenon understood to embrace much more than the Labour Party. Included within the term’s definition was the whole trade union movement – many of whose members looked upon the Labour Party as ...
    1 week ago
  • NZ ‘left’ politically embracing extreme postmodernism
    by Philip Ferguson Much of the left, even people who formally identify as marxists, have collapsed politically in the face of postmodern gender theory of the sort pioneered by American philosopher Judith Butler. For Butler even biological sex is socially constructed. “If the immutable character of sex is contested, perhaps ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • The obvious question
    The media is reporting that the (alleged) Labour party sexual assaulter has resigned from their job at Parliament, which means hopefully he won't be turning up there making people feel unsafe in future. Good. But as with everything about this scandal, it just raises other questions. Most significantly: why the ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • The moment I found out that you found out, I acted swiftly
    By Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern I am every bit as angry as you are. I am every bit as disappointed as you must be. The people with power, oversight and the ability to do something about these processes within the Labour Party should be ashamed. Whoever those people are, I ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • This is why people hate property developers
    Property developers think there is an "oversupply" of houses in Auckland:High turnover rates and falling prices may be a sign that there are too many new houses going in to some parts of Auckland, commentators say. [...] Property developer David Whitburn said there was a "bit of an oversupply" in ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Australia to Pacific: “Fuck you, you can all drown”
    World leaders are meeting in New York in two weeks for the 2019 Climate Action Summit, where they are expected to announce new and more ambitious targets to stop the world from burning. But the Australian Prime Minister won't be there, despite being in the USA at the time:Scott Morrison ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Implausible ignorance
    Labour Party president Nigel Haworth resigned yesterday over the party's sexual assault scandal. But while that's good news, its unlikely to take away the stench of a coverup. Because according to Paula Bennett in Parliament yesterday, pretty much everyone in the Prime Minister's office was involved as well:I have been ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Labour’s Fatal Flaw.
     Two-Faced? Labour insiders' commitment to the neoliberal status quo puts them at odds with their party’s membership; its trade union affiliates; and a majority of Labour voters, but this only serves to strengthen the perception they have of themselves as a special elite. Among the lesser breeds, they’ll talk up a ...
    1 week ago
  • Ten reasons the Tories do NOT want an election
    There has been a lot of talk about Boris Johnson wanting an election, and he has blustered with great gusto about 'chicken' Jeremy Corbyn refusing one, but I think there are many reasons why he is secretly glad he has been refused the opportunity:The Tories are an utter rabble,tearing themselves ...
    1 week ago
  • Prorogation Illegal, rule Scottish judges
    Scottish appeal court judges have declared that Boris Johnson’s decision to suspend parliament in the run-up to the October Brexit deadline is unlawful. The three judges, chaired by Lord Carloway, Scotland’s most senior judge, overturned an earlier ruling that the courts did not have the powers to interfere in the prime ...
    1 week ago
  • Let me explain what I meant by Everyday New Zealanders
    By Simon Bridges. The following is a press release from the office of Simon Bridges, leader of The National Party. Key ora, New Zealand. Happy Maori Language Week. Look, I’m writing to you today because I want to clear something up. There’s been a lot of kerfuffle around some things ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • Yes, the SIS is subject to the Public Records Act
    I understand there's some stuff going round about how the SIS "was removed from the list of public offices covered by the Public Records Act in 2017". The context of course being their records derived from US torture, which will be disposed of or sealed. The good news is that ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • An evidence-based discussion of the Canadian fluoride/IQ study
    Dr. Christopher Labos and Jonathan Jarry discuss the recent Canadian fluoride/IQ research. They provide an expert analysis of the paper and its problems. Click on image to go to podcast. The critical debate about the recent ...
    1 week ago
  • Climate Change: Australia in denial
    Australia is burning down again, and meanwhile its natural disaster minister is denying climate change:Australia’s minister responsible for drought and natural disasters, David Littleproud, has said that he doesn’t “know if climate change is manmade”. Clarifying earlier comments that the question is “irrelevant” when considering the Coalition government’s response to ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Philippines activist speaking on the Duterte tyranny
    Auckland Philippines Solidarity is excited to host Professor Judy Taguiwalo for a speaking tour of NZ in September. She is a well-known activist in the Philippines and was a political prisoner under the Marcos dictatorship. Professor Taguiwalo briefly served as a Cabinet member under President Duterte but was forced from ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    2 weeks ago
  • Disgust
    I have no special insights to offer on the Labour sexual assault coverup. All I have is disgust. Disgust that an organisation could fail its people so badly. Disgust that they punished the victims rather than the perpetrator. Disgust that its party hacks are apparently blaming the victims for demanding ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Speak Up for Women calls out Greens’ censorship
    This open letter to the Green Party was penned after an opinion piece by Jill Abigail, a feminist and founding member of the party, was censored by the Greens’ leadership. (Redline has reprinted her article here).The intolerance of the Green Party leaders and their acceptance of the misogyny of gender ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    2 weeks ago
  • Member’s Day: End of Life Choice, part 3
    Today is a Member's day, and David Seymour's End of Life Choice Bill continues its slow crawl through its committee stage. They're spending the whole day on it today, though the first hour is likely to be spent on voting left over from last time. After that they'll move on ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Flight to Los Angeles turned back after passengers decide they don’t want to go anymore
    An ambitious plan to fly to Los Angeles petered out into a brief sight-seeing trip and a desire to return home and get some sleep before work tomorrow. Air New Zealand has confirmed a flight to Los Angeles last night was turned back about a quarter of the way into ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Indigenous Futures: defuturing and futuring – an analytical framework for policy development?
    There appears to be consensus – by omission – that the concept of indigenous futures should be accepted at face value. So I scavenged the internet to see if I could locate an academic descriptor or a framework around how we think about it as a concept, and whether it ...
    EllipsisterBy Ellipsister
    2 weeks ago
  • Cadbury rumoured to be releasing the Pineapple Trump
    Here’s another novelty chocolate to shove in your gob, New Zealand Cadbury could be seeking to make itself great again with a rumoured new release: Pineapple Trumps, a spin on its classic chocolate-encased pineapple treat and do-it-yourself tooth remover. The global confectionery manufacturer and bumbling “before” character in an infomercial, ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • The coming resource war.
    During my time in the Pentagon I had the privilege of sitting down with military leaders and defence and security officials from a variety of Latin American nations. Sometimes I was present as a subordinate assistant to a senior US defence department official, sometimes as part of a delegation that ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    2 weeks ago
  • Māori Language Week with The Civilian
    Kia ora, Aotearoa. It’s that magical time of year. Te Wiki o te Reo Māori. In English, the week that frightens talk radio. As you probably know by now, all your favourite media outlets are participating, some more successfully than others. Stuff has changed its name to Puna for the ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Will Horizons act on climate change?
    Local body elections are coming up next month. And it looks like all Palmerston North candidates for Horizons (the Manawatu-Whanganui Regional Council) want to take action on climate change:Climate change is set to be a key issue in Palmerston North for the next three years if those wanting to get ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • BORA reform is stalled
    Eighteen months ago, the government promised to strengthen the Bill of Rights Act, by explicitly affirming the power of the courts to issue declarations of inconsistency and requiring Parliament to formally respond to them. So how's that going? I was curious, so I asked for all advice about the proposal. ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Corbyn and Brexit
    As the Brexit saga staggers on, the focus is naturally enough on the Prime Minister and his attempts to achieve Brexit “do or die”. But the role played by the Leader of the Opposition is of almost equal interest and complexity. The first problem for Jeremy Corbyn is that he ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    2 weeks ago
  • A ditch for him to die in
    Last week, English Prime Minister Boris Johnson boldly declared that he would rather die be dead in a ditch than delay Brexit. Unfortunately for him, the UK parliament accepted the challenge, and promptly dug one for him. The "rebellion bill" requires him to ask for and secure yet another temporary ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Warning! Warning! Danger Jacinda Ardern! Danger Marama Davidson! Warning!
    Lost In Political Space: The most important takeaway from this latest Labour sexual assault scandal, which (if I may paraphrase Nixon’s White House counsel’s, John Dean’s, infamous description of Watergate) is “growing like a cancer” on the premiership, is the Labour Party organisation’s extraordinary professional paralysis in the face of ...
    2 weeks ago

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