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mickysavage - Date published:
8:37 am, June 29th, 2016 - 39 comments
Categories: Europe, International, uk politics -
Tags: alyn smith, angus robertson, jeremy corbyn, nigel farage, scottish national party
This is an occasional award to be given out to that politician in the world most likely to bring the already poor reputation of politicians into even worse repute. And even though there are still a couple of days in the month left there is an overwhelming winner who cannot be beaten.
It was a tough competition with most of the UK Labour Party caucus making a strong bid for this award. Clearly there are difficulties in the relationship with Jeremy Corbyn but the timing of the attempted coup being run against him says everything. Instead of uniting and taking advantage of the disarray the Conservatives are in they chose instead to plunge the Labour Party into crisis. You get the strong impression, even from over here, that they would prefer to lose an election rather than run the risk that Corbyn is the next Prime Minister of the UK. And that the referendum result is the pretext not the cause.
But even this gross stupidity on a mass scale cannot match the obnoxiousness of Nigel Farage’s recent speech to the European Union Parliament.
He occupies a strange position having collected a wage for the last 17 years to be part of a body he does not believe in. This is Cameron Slater quality hypocrisy.
Farage said that what he would like to see “is a grown up, civil attitude to how we negotiate a different relationship.”
He then said that to the gathered crowd of MEPs that virtually none of them had ever done a proper job in their lives, or worked in business or in a trade or ever created a job. So much for the grown up civil attitude.
The speech is below if you want to appreciate the full hypocrisy of Farage’s position.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4ZTuh52wXE
To applause EC President Jean-Claude Juncker asked why exactly Farage had turned up. And Scotland showed the way with SNP’s Alyn Smith giving this impassioned speech.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-4Sc52vmI8
This was backed up by a similarly passionate speech given by SNP Westminister leader MP Angus Robertson in Parliament.
Interesting what a united determined progressive party can achieve …
The current rise of populism challenges the way we think about people’s relationship to the economy.We seem to be entering an era of populism, in which leadership in a democracy is based on preferences of the population which do not seem entirely rational nor serving their longer interests. ...
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Any good Labour MEP speeches. UKIP picked the mood of the English correctly.
What Job did Mr. Farrage hold before he entered the European Parliament 17 years again?
Or is it the Paula Bennett syndrome, Do as I say not as I did?
Farage is representing his party’s membership. So are the SNPs MPs. You cannot say the same for the UK Labour MPs.
well at least you are against all Labour Parties not just the one in NZ>
However, you have again failed to actually respond to a comment made and instead again have done nothing else but Labour!!!!! Labour!!!!! Labour!!!
Fact is this geezer has very happily taken 17 years of EU Money, and still is. And what was his job before joining the ranks of the overpaid underachiever?
Oh yea…..labour labour labour labour….:)
Farage knows full well that when the UK leaves the EU, he will be terminating his own pay and position within the European Parliament.
As has already been answered, Farage was a City of London trader before becoming an MEP.
He traded commodities on the London Metal Exchange. Some might argue that’s also not a real job…
Those London commodities exchanges have been around for a very long time
LME started in 1877, but of course these days are just hives of speculation.
A big financial backer of the Vote Leave campaign was CMC markets founder Peter Cruddas.
Note Farage was behind the separate Leave.EU campaign
Nigel Paul Farage (/ˈfærɑːʒ/;[2] born 3 April 1964) is a British politician and former commodity broker
he understands the poison that is the banksters in the City of London.
He understands how stock and commodity trading affects the natural price of things, how it’s a fake economy used by clever people to do one thing make money. However the false prices commodities get set, through manipulation, control, with-holding, flooding, by unscrupulous traders actually effects people in real life, causing poverty, starvation.
IMHO
I think thats pretty much exactly correct, Richard.
And we all understand the poison that is Farage. Like Sadam Hussein, David Cameron and Michael Bay, not everything Farage has ever done has been bad. That doesn’t mean we should laud him or put him centre-stage in drawing positives out of Brexit.
Every other political party in England wanted to ignore or deny the mood of the people re: BREXIT.
Only UKIP and Farage paid attention to what the people actually wanted.
So yeah, there are plenty of issues with Farage. But he doesn’t look especially worse as a politician when compared to the scheming back stabbing members of Corbyn’s (former) Shadow Cabinet, or the Tory Cabinet.
I would look upon it quite differently. The English populace could potentially be better off being outside Europe. However, that wasn’t what Farage was about. He was about IMMIGRANTS! REFUGEES! ONE HUNDRED BILLION TRILLION INNOCENT BRITISH POUNDS BEING EATEN ALIVE BY CONTINENTAL POLISH WOG FOREIGN TRANSYLVANIAN VAMPIRES WITH DUTCH ACCENTS!
The Brexit campaign’s success has shown how far that element of Farage’s politics has entered the mainstream, and helped legitimise it further. Brexit itself is not necessarily negative, depending on how it plays out. The implications of the vote, however, are very ugly indeed. You may think that it shows a crystalising of popular sentiment in solidarity against financial tyranny. The whole tenor of the campaign and the attitudes surrounding it, however (“Look at all your lovely money getting wasted on pointless laws!”; “Look at all those polish workers!”), suggest that it’s more likely to be used to focus dissatisfaction on scapegoating, and to encourage smaller government based on distrust of politicians and the London region in general. “Why should your hard-earned pounds pay for a bunch of fat cats to tell you what to think (translation: let’s strangle the BBC and give more influence to the likes of Rupert Murdoch)?”; “Why should expensive bureaucrats in London decide whether your mum gets a new hip (translation: let’s cut funding to the NHS)?”
The thrust of your argument seems to be predicated on two falacies, namely that the enemy of your enemy is your friend, and that anyone criticising Farage is claiming some sort of moral high ground for the Tories or the Blairites.
CV is being a crashing bore again. It must be a day ending in a “y”.
Are you not ENTERTAINED???!
Dang, thought this was about me 🙂
The competition is pretty tough.
MEP are the only people elected from England under proportional representation, so I suppose you got to take the elections you are offered.
At any moment John Clease will burst onto frame saying Brexit was just a very funny film parody on British politics. We would say nah. No Government could have such weird characters or such a weird plot. Not credible John.
Didja see the “New Yorker” cover with a Cartoon of John Cleese doing his “Ministry of Silly Walks” thingy over a cliff?
Brilliant!
New Yorker Cleese Cartoon:
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine
Angus was pretty good.
Great to see the full measure of the leadership of Brexit begin to be exposed for what they are and what they have done.
Still more to come. If anyone needs to wonder what a Donald Trump US Presidency would look like, have a good listen to Farage and Boris speaking.
The US should heed the lessons of leadership that England alone has forgotten.
My take on the clips.
Well done Farage, good to see they were’nt laughing in the end when the truth rang home.
Then we get two Tory career politicians spouting the for global banking neo lib support.
For me I see why Farage may be the future, we want our politicians to follow what we say not what’s PC, perhaps? Within reasoned boundaries.
But mostly anti the lie we are being sold.
As Farage said, 17 years ago in entered as an MEP promising to lead a campagin for BREXIT.
He has delivered on his political promise. England strongly voted for BREXIT: 53.2% to 46.8%.
And let’s remember why Farage was able to pull this off: pro-EU establishment parties like the Tories and Labour failed decade after decade to deliver on the promised benefits of the EU to ordinary people.
CV
That’s a good point: One may despise Farage, but he has clearly succeeded in his stated intention; despite having very slight parliamentary support. That makes him more of a more of a Machiavelli than a Muppet in my book.
Refreshing to see a politician do what they said they would do.
That should depend on what they actually do.
But I have a bit of trouble with the logical extension – “refreshingly bad”.
The only essential quality for being a successful politician is to be able to get elected. In other words, they need to be outstanding salespeople.
We get crap government because we are ruled by salesmen.
Issues are irrelevant. It’s all smiles and personality.
On the whole a pretty good speech by Farage. Even the jibe about members never having worked, whilst a bit below the belt, only highlighted the fact that the Brexit referendum result reflected the views of ordinary working people rather than politicians. I liked his comment that Britain would not be last to leave.
Farage has devoted his life to bringing independence to the UK and ridding the British people of being subject to laws made against their will by foreigners.
He stands for the values of those who oppose the TTPA and New Zealand’s current immigration policies.
He doesn’t stand for anti trade or uncontrolled immigration.
In fact he stands opposed to those very things.
He has and does stand for free trade…with whoever the UK want to trade with, NOT who the EU decide they can trade with.
He is not anti immigration, he is against the UK not having control of it’s own borders, who they let in and who they don’t. (ie the EU’s “free travel” between nations of the EU), this has brought people to Britain who just go on the British dole and don’t input to the UK economy at all.. This is what the people of Britain have been against for decades. They are very happy to welcome people who want to work (even Kiwi barmen). But they want a say in who comes to the UK, as we do here in NZ.
😆 the pair of you.
The only thing Farage stands for is election.
Of course it’s always been within the power of the UK to change their benefit rules.
I thought that that doesnt seem to be the way to negotiate a good exit for the UK.
In the third clip, Cameron said he would like to see Scotland belong to both the UK and the EU. Is this just rhetoric, or would this be possible despite Brexit?
It’s all very well for the Scots to say they wish to remain “true Europeans” but have they considered the implications of an independent Scotland joining the EU? Are they prepared, for example, to join the eurozone, and would they even be allowed in if not. Britain was already a member before the eurozone was formed, but I think if Bremain had carried the day they would have come under pressure to abandon the pound and adopt the Euro. I would like t think that they would resist that pressure. Perhaps it’s better to exit now, voluntarily, than be forced out at a later date.
They will be glad to see the back of that insulting offensive Farage. (one English comedian recently said ” I bet Farage rhymes with garage but doesn’t sound posh enough so instead we get far – raaarge, but farage, as in garage, is good enough for me”).
I watched part of the MEP’s speeches last night on Al Jazeera but missed garage’s. Clearly very few are impressed with him.
In response to this nice little earner:
“He occupies a strange position having collected a wage for the last 17 years to be part of a body he does not believe in. This is Cameron Slater quality hypocrisy.”
One member, who I didn’t catch the name of, spent his time running garage down and ending up with “but you were happy to collect a salary from us for 17 years!!!” to much applause. That hypocrisy hasn’t gone unnoticed. There was also a strong and powerful speech from a woman from Sinn Fein. (Celts are excellent orators)
As for the Scots, I hope with all my heart they can have another independence referendum. This time I hope they change the rules to allow Scottish citizens living overseas to have the vote and disallow the vote for those living in Scotland who are not citizens or permanent residents.
There must have been many Brits living and studying in Scotland who got the right to vote last time who, along with the conservative older Scot voter, skewed it in favour of NO. Especially all the British students getting an excellent free education in Scotland. A NO vote benefited them.
Farage about BREXIT referendum: Obama was a disgrace, Putin was a statesman
Farage made these comments on Fox News when they interviewed him and said that BREXIT would make the UK weaker and Putin must be happy about it
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-28/nigel-farage-slams-obama-he-came-britain-and-behaved-disgracefully
Agreed CV
We live in a time of Corporate control of our globe, as the New World Order comes to fruition and Nigel Farage accused the EU Parliament of “stealth” as they introduce this NWO without declaring it to the people first!