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1. the sprout 1

   3 November 2007 at 1:54 pm

   you know the really funny thing is that by the time Peachy left as principal Rangitoto college it was in some quite serious financial problems
2. Robinsod 2

   3 November 2007 at 2:41 pm

   I’m starting to wonder what’s happening to National’s spin. Perhaps their contracted experts are busy in Aussie? I wonder what how they’ll go on talent-hunting with the US presidentials and our elections running in the same year?
3. Santa Claws 3

   3 November 2007 at 3:34 pm

   Hey, at least National’s MP’s have the chance to talk about policy options – I can’t recall the last time that a Labour member uttered a comment that hadn’t been pre-approved by H1. H2, and a focus group. I note that Mike Williams felt the need to bang the “Unity” drum at the converence too. Actually I guess the last one that spoke up was JT, and look what happened to him….

   BTW, how many demonstrators were arrested outside the last National conference?

   “Police struggled with screaming demonstrators and arrested three of them outside the Labour Party’s annual conference venue in Auckland today.”
4. Peak Oil Conspiracy 4

   3 November 2007 at 4:12 pm

   Yeah Santa Claws, it’s kind of strange to see John Minto in there boots and all against Labour, right?
5. Robinsod 5

   3 November 2007 at 4:34 pm

   Yes Tony Claws like Brian Connell was allowed to speak his mind. I seem to remember a hell of a lot of demonstrator arrests during political actions during National’s reign. But then again there was much more opportunity to get arrested in those days – not surprising considering the amount of public protest your crew inspired.
6. milo 6

   3 November 2007 at 5:30 pm

   Yes, I prefer the Labour party, where dissent and debate is not tolerated, and loyalty is the only virtue. When will National learn to enforce discipline with a bit of biffo? They really need to get with the times.
7. Insolent Prick 7

   3 November 2007 at 5:37 pm

   You’re a liar, Sprout.

   Rangitoto is an outstanding success story of the public secondary school system. Allan Peachey is widely regarded by parents and teachers alike as being an outstanding principal and school leader. No amount of smear from you will change that.

   You must be thinking of Selwyn College, that colossal failure of liberal schooling gone mad.
8. the sprout 8

   3 November 2007 at 7:46 pm

   no you’re wrong IP. the school remains in serious financial difficulty. just ask any of the staff there. better yet, ask them why and whose regular trips abroad got them in that situation.
9. the sprout 9

   3 November 2007 at 7:48 pm

   intersting you raise Selwyn though, that’s the school peachy has been attacking and trying to derail for years now right?
   and wasn’t that the school where one of its board members was threatened by peachy with some kind of reference to a knife in her back?
   is that the school you mean IP?
10. thomas 10

    4 November 2007 at 2:37 am

    How can you trust someone called A Peachey ?
11. Santa Claws 11

    4 November 2007 at 9:30 am

    “Personal tax cuts are on their way – that was the promise delivered by Prime Minister Helen Clark at the Labour Party’s annual conference yesterday. But neither Clark nor Finance Minister Michael Cullen would be drawn on details, except to say the cuts will happen under Cullen.”

    It’s bad enough that they’re “thinking” about massive election year tax bribe after 8 years of ruling one out. It’s worse that they’re not being straight with the public about it.
12. the sprout 12

    4 November 2007 at 10:51 am

    yeah, not like the detailed and upfront National promises
13. gobsmacked 13

    4 November 2007 at 11:21 am

    Why am I “gobsmacked”? Because I am actually being asked to take this man seriously:

    John Key, man of principle, responds to Clark’s speech (Herald on Sunday):

    “It’s a public change of heart because of poor polling results.”

    hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
14. Insolent Prick 14

    4 November 2007 at 11:30 am

    You’re a liar, Sprout. Repeating that lie does not make it true. Simply making defamatory statements about Peachey one moment, and then making even more outrageous defamatory statements about him the next moment, does not make your argument any more credible.

    That’s an outrageous assertion that Peachey placed New Zealand’s largest school in financial hardship by taking overseas trips. What next, Sprout? Are you going to make allegations of criminal activity?

    Yes, Peachey has set his sights on Selwyn College, because it is a FAILED SCHOOL! It is also in his electorate. Local parents do not send their kids to that school, because it simply doesn’t achieve. This has nothing to do with Peachey turning his attention to Selwyn: parents have been at war with each other in that place for the last ten years.

    Simply talking out your arse doesn’t give you any more authority to tell abject lies, Sprout.
15. the sprout 15

    4 November 2007 at 11:41 am

    your sensitivity on this topic is telling IP. i am not implying anything criminal on peachy’s behalf though, just inept and self-interested management. but go ahead – make a big deal of it, see what comes out. better yet, ask him yourself.
    glad to see that despite your blind defensive rage you at least acknowledge by your selective silence on the matter that peachy did indeed make threats to a Selwyn member concerning a knife in the back.
16. Insolent Prick 16

    4 November 2007 at 12:37 pm

    Sprout,

    You are a liar with no evidence whatsoever, other than blind innuendo. Rangitoto is an outstanding success story. It pisses you off that it became a success story under Peachey’s leadership. No amount of chinese whispering from you, in your cowardly attempt to tarnish Peachey’s stellar reputation as head of Rangitoto will change that.

    I repeat, you are simply a liar. I have expected outright lies from kiwiblogblog, but until now I’ve felt that the Standard holds an honest, if misguided opinion. Not in your case. You’re just a liar, Sprout.

    Peachey did write in one email that his knives were out for Selwyn College. And so they should be. He’s the local MP, and disgraceful mismanagement in pursuit of ideology has driven that school to the wall. It’s his bloody job to hold it to account.
17. the sprout 17

    4 November 2007 at 1:34 pm

    peachy’s behaviour towards Selwyn has been nothing short of a vendetta.
    i don’t say Rangitoto hasn’t enjoyed a good reputation, what i say is that peachy left it with serious financial difficulties. if you want evidence, take a look at the school’s financial position starting with the last 3 years of his ‘leadership’, when despite his expectations he had to stay on as head because his 2002 attempt at getting elected failed.
    no amount of blind refutations by you can change that IP, obvious as it is that you are very sensititve about this unfortunate state of affairs. so you can keep ranting al you want, i’ve said my piece.
18. rjs131 18

    4 November 2007 at 2:32 pm

    Sprout, Peachey should be able to question the leadership of Selwyn. Its academic record is a joke and all the locals want to do anything to avoid sending their children there. IF there is a case of a crap school which is failing its students, isnt all MPs obligated to speak up and do something about it?
    And is the financial performance of a school the responsibility of the board?
19. Santa Claws 19

    4 November 2007 at 5:10 pm

    Spot is just playing true to form -show up, tell lies, sling mud, depart.
20. Robinsod 20

    4 November 2007 at 5:58 pm

    And Tony Claws – your old trick of turn up make a stupid pun and fuck off is still working out for you I see? Fuck off.
21. Santa Claws 21

    4 November 2007 at 7:53 pm

    Wow Robespierre, you are in such scintillating form tonight. I think its time you had a break though, your looking a little peaky (or is that peachy?)

    Ho Ho Ho
22. Robinsod 22

    5 November 2007 at 7:33 am

    Thanks Tony Claws – I took a bit of a break and went out to watch a movie. Much more fun. I’m gad to know you’re looking out for me though.
23. Insolent Prick 23

    5 November 2007 at 11:16 am

    Stop telling lies, Sprout. You haven’t seen the financial statements of Rangitoto College. You are simply repeating lies that you cannot back up.

    Let’s look at the ERO reports, respectively, for Rangitoto and Selwyn. The last ERO report noted that:

    “Year 9 students entering the school generally have good thinking and reasoning skills and many have above average ability in reading, listening and mathematics. In the senior school, overall levels of achievement in national examinations are well above national averages and, particularly in Years 11 and 12, often exceed the achievement levels of schools with a similar socio-economic profile. Students are encouraged to strive for the highest possible academic grades. Staff are increasingly improving their analysis of achievement information, which is used appropriately to inform teaching and learning.”

    Compare this to Selwyn College, where the Ministry of Education has intervened in the Board to appoint a specialist advisor to report on:

    “The immediate development of an action plan to address serious concerns relating to:- on-going board conflict and division;
    – poor engagement with the community;
    – the community’s lack of confidence in the quality of education provided by the College;
    – concerns about student engagement;
    – an unclear governance/management relationship; and
    – significantly lower than expected Year 9 enrolments for 2007.”

    The success of Rangitoto College as a school is in a large part due to Peachey’s work. Conversely, the failure of Selwyn College as a school has nothing to do with Peachey, and everything to do with radical liberal educationalists who are prepared to experiment with this nation’s children.
24. Santa Claws 24

    5 November 2007 at 11:48 am

    And you know that when the ERO criticises a school it must be really bad.
25. Max Call 25

    5 November 2007 at 10:01 pm

    Santa Claws
    Nov 5th, 2007 at 11:48 am
    “And you know that when the ERO criticises a school it must be really bad.”
    Why?
    How?
26. Insolent Prick 26

    5 November 2007 at 10:56 pm

    So, Sprout, you seem to have run for cover now that your lies have been exposed.

    If Allan Peachey was such a shoddy educator, how is it that he managed to turn Rangitoto into the largest, most successful school in the country with an unimpeachable academic record, producing the highest calibre of students? And how is that if his actions in pointing the finger at the most outrageous case of liberal ideology gone wrong in New Zealand education–Selwyn college–was a vindictive vendetta, has the Government responded by appointing specialist advisers to Selwyn College to fix its many problems?

    Why is it that Selwyn is on the brink of collapse? Why is it that your beloved Labour Government says the reasons it is on the brink of collapse is its poor relationship with the community, its non-engagement with parents, its inability to attract students, and the inability of the board to manage the school?

    The answer is, Sprout, you don’t know your facts. You simply make them up. And by doing so, you’ve got zero credibility.
27. Santa Claws 27

    5 November 2007 at 11:13 pm

    Max – have you ever read an ERO report?

    Here’s a sample para

    “Students experience a school culture based on tolerance, fairness and respect. This culture is reflected in the respectful behaviour within classrooms and friendly relationships around the school. It is reinforced by the good quality of support and attention provided by staff to address students’ academic and pastoral needs. ”

    Can you see that the source of this language might find it difficult to criticise an instruction that it invested in?
28. Kimble 28

    6 November 2007 at 2:32 am

    You lame bitches have been fucking SCHOOLED!
29. Robinsod 29

    6 November 2007 at 7:53 am

    DPF Claws – I’ can’t see your point – do you have one?

    Kimble – the only lame thing I can see here is someone who’s up at 2:32am and can’t come up with anything better than “you lame bitches…” don’t you have a job or some real reason to get up in the morning?

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