Nicky Hager opens new case against police

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1. Sabine 1

   6 April 2016 at 7:19 am

   so very much Eastern Germany, or USSR, or any other of the eastern blocks pre 1989.

   oh well, history, repeating itself.
   But I am sure our dear Leader is comfortable, after all that is the only thing that matters. Innit?
   • NZJester 1.1

     6 April 2016 at 8:55 am

     Actually more “National” socialist!
     • Draco T Bastard 1.1.1

       6 April 2016 at 12:54 pm

       +1
2. TC 2

   6 April 2016 at 7:31 am

   People need to wake up to how much influence this shonky govt has over our police and their willingness to be political tools and F the law.

   No charges against slater after he admits law breaking or action on complaints and now this…….nationals police all right.
   • Nikita 2.1

     6 April 2016 at 9:32 am

     Not to mention, the door knocking police on “known activists” before the TPPA protests to check on “their plans.” That made me feel sickened and angry. Oh, and apparently there were police writing down the details of activists at the protest (I think I read it was in Auckland) without asking them. Can anyone add anything else as proof that the police are under strong government influence?
3. Jenny Kirk 3

   6 April 2016 at 7:34 am

   Whose orders were the police acting on ?
   • ianmac 3.1

     6 April 2016 at 8:49 am

     Had the same response Jenny. Seemed to be an extreme response from Police at odds with many tardy other cases. I bet there is no record in writing of any “instruction” from the Beehive.
4. saveNZ 4

   6 April 2016 at 7:46 am

   Shocking. In a time when the news is being dumbed down and someones break up is now appearing on TV1 news instead of real news, and that most journalists are now glorified ‘news hosts and hostesses’ or PR hounds, it is important to legally protect the few surviving fledglings of investigative journalists still left.

   The judges need to ‘send a message’ to those applying for warrants etc need to tell the truth to the courts and there are actually ‘consequences’ for police if they don’t (not just a rap on the knuckles (what sort of deterrent is that). Lying and misleading by police to the courts (in particular for political purposes) should be punishable by prison. Yep the judges need to show they mean business here and police should not be turning their courts into circuses!
   • NZJester 4.1

     6 April 2016 at 9:00 am

     Not glorified news hosts, I think the words you are looking for are “Gossip Columnists”!
     • Draco T Bastard 4.1.1

       6 April 2016 at 1:03 pm

       Gossipmongers.

       a person who spreads gossip
   • Chooky 4.2

     6 April 2016 at 4:43 pm

     +100 saveNZ…shocking alright…”Lying and misleading by police to the courts (in particular for political purposes) should be punishable by prison.”…
5. One Anonymous Bloke 5

   6 April 2016 at 7:51 am

   Someone should do jailtime for this. No doubt the frothing authoritarian law ‘n’ order set will keep very very quiet about it.
   • Draco T Bastard 5.1

     6 April 2016 at 1:06 pm

     +1
6. Ad 6

   6 April 2016 at 7:59 am

   If Nicky Hagar is that high a risk to New Zealand, it should be the SIS requesting the warrant, not the Police.

   The Police are going to get kicked all around the courtroom on this one, and good job.
   • TC 6.1

     6 April 2016 at 8:47 am

     The SIS were probably asked by shonky but he got referred to nationals police….where every tory seems to get a bargain.
7. adam 7

   6 April 2016 at 8:22 am

   I always like reading Mr Geiringers’ statements. Felix has such a nice way of pointing out the ridiculous in and of – what the police have done.
8. esoteric pineapples 8

   6 April 2016 at 9:26 am

   It’s okay to publish press releases in full. When it is an official press release it can be used in its entirety in any publication. Many newspapers run press releases as stories, which I am not so keen on, especially when they put a byline of a journalist at the top.
   If a press release is embagoed you can’t publish it till the date and time specified.
   • Lanthanide 8.1

     6 April 2016 at 10:36 am

     “If a press release is embagoed you can’t publish it till the date and time specified.”

     You can, but you should anticipate legal consequences if you publish early.
9. Tarquin 9

   6 April 2016 at 4:27 pm

   Wouldn’t have happened if he didn’t receive and use stolen property to start with.
   • whateva next? 9.1

     6 April 2016 at 6:21 pm

     ……and we would still have a government using that site/blogger to run the country and smear anyone that dared to question them, utterly, utterly corrupt.
     No thanks Tarquin
   • weston 9.2

     6 April 2016 at 6:31 pm

     you must try really hard not to be informed tarquin…
   • framu 9.3

     7 April 2016 at 10:20 am

     what would happen if you were up to speed on the relevant law in this case?
   • saveNZ 9.4

     7 April 2016 at 12:37 pm

     Hager did not ‘steal’ property. The original data was still there I would assume. Someone copied data for ‘public good’ to expose corruption.

     Hager was even more removed as he had nothing to do with the data being copied in the first place!!! That’s what journalists do take leaks and expose them!

     You don’t see other governments and police forces cracking down on the Panama paper journalists do you.

     We have corrupt and dictator like government officials that use the police politically to keep their corruption and morally bankrupt practises out of the public eye.

     And the police should be canned for being part of it and misleading the courts.
     • Tarquin 9.4.1

       7 April 2016 at 1:09 pm

       The end justifies the means? Regardless of politics or ideology, he has used something he knew was stolen to turn a profit. That alone makes the public needed to know defense look shaky. Then he complains about the police looking more closely at him when he refuses to answer questions. What are they supposed to do? Just give up? Believe me I have no interest in whaleoil and don’t think much of his blog, but Hager runs with the hares and hunts with the hounds.
       • saveNZ 9.4.1.1

         7 April 2016 at 1:30 pm

         The data was not stolen!!!! The police give up on most other crimes these days especially burglary. Do you realise if someone breaks into your house, is found with the stolen goods but will not confess the police do not prosecute them for burglary but ‘possibly’ for receiving. Police will not prosecute for burglary in this country. It’s ridiculous. (Maybe too many burglaries and I see their point – what’s the point putting a kid or homeless person or person addicted to drugs in jail?)

         And even more ridiculous doing some sort of massive operation on Hager taking huge police resources for political purposes. Hager clearly did not steal anything and in addition the original hacker did not steal it either. The original data is still there. Not stolen. Copied for public good. The original copier clearly did not profit from it.

         Hager’s main use was as a journalist to tell the story. Not to profit. Feel you have a very bizarre idea of the law and what is fair to go with some outlandish scenario and the police have already lost the case.

         John Key and his ilk are probably just fearful all their dirty secrets will be revealed and went on a witch hunt for the hacker. Even the rich and powerful should not be above the law, and use law enforcement to break the law.
         • saveNZ 9.4.1.1.1

           7 April 2016 at 1:33 pm

           In fact the only complaint could be for privacy under these circumstances. But since it involved wrongdoing on behalf of the leaks it should be going the other way.

           The police should be investigating the revelations from dirty politics and corruption and political engineering charges should be bought.
         • Smilin 9.4.1.1.2

           8 April 2016 at 9:33 am

           The trouble with theft is that it is invasion of your home your person or business and it costs big time for the victims, and from the outset of a charge you are looking at ten years max jail for the perpetrator and its on their record forever.
           So getting convictions is hard work and costly so its no wonder the police are on a limit as to how they deal with this, which of course is corrupt and a deliberate policy by the govt hidden under some larger piece of priority allocation mystically designed to mean fa when brought to the public’s attention
           Like Ruatoki for example and now Dirty Politics
           Really there is enough in there for there to be serious legal implications of for the government’s right to be the government as all that that was in the book points directly to a campaign to illegally affect the rights of other persons running opposition parties to have a fair and just election process.
           So I suppose the police going after Nicky like a pack of pitbulls is the point about just what was at stake here for the government and yet it seems to have all just disappeared like Brigadoon maybe to surface again on the anniversary of the release date of Dirty Politics or now with the Panama Papers the government maybe the architect of its own demise
       • framu 9.4.1.2

         8 April 2016 at 7:53 am

         “The end justifies the means?”

         hagars a journalist – the law allows him to use such material – end of story

         and the police publicly stated they werent investigating him as a suspect for any crime whatsoever
10. linda 10

    7 April 2016 at 2:06 pm

    It just gets worse and worse its real gestapo. Type stuff Political prisoner’s 3rd world actions its not what. We expect from first world country or po lice force what get me. Is what. Do the police hope gain by acting as political hitmen
11. Smilin 11

    8 April 2016 at 8:52 am

    Great when we are allied to The Land Of The Free really puts faith in the western system of democracy der not being totalitarian in anyway shape or form you know the kind of bs cover up you get from Key and co supplied by their CT interview sheet
    And there is nothing to support Nicky except those who volunteer to in all this.
    Imagine in history class at any school in NZ having Dirty Politics held up as the major reference when John Keys governance of this country is a subject in NCEA level one, you think .All the books would would probably get confiscated or something equally stupid or the subject itself written in the same bias as Maori history has been up until the times of Belish and King
    Talk about the cultural revolution and all its evils in China ,its got nothing on this Key bastard

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