web analytics

Open mike 02/01/2021

Written By: - Date published: 6:00 am, January 2nd, 2021 - 31 comments
Categories: open mike - Tags:

Open mike is your post.

For announcements, general discussion, whatever you choose.

The usual rules of good behaviour apply (see the Policy).

Step up to the mike …

31 comments on “Open mike 02/01/2021 ”

    • Phillip ure 1.1

      p.r. overdrive from big-grocery to try to lessen the impact of the current inquiry into their sweet sweet duopoly..

      (a good thing this govt has done…that will only stay good if they act on the findings..)

      I talk with quite a few tourists on my travels..

      and they are as one at how expensive food is here…

      we are being screwed every which way by this duopoly..

      calling in more competition could help..the arrival of the German company aldi in australia has put a crimp in the sails of their duopoly..

      so their arrival here would be welcomed..

      or the government could assist in the setting up of a cut-price chain here..

      seed-fund it..hire industry professionals to set up/run it…and then step back..it must be self-sustaining

      that would also deal to the duopolists..

      and of course it could be configured to plough all the profits back into the community..

      to complete the circle..as it were..

      we need some innovative thinking here..

      • Ed 1.1.1

        Thank you Phillip for your insight here.

        There is also the case of of how the supermarkets deal with their staff. When they were essential workers, they were treasured for a while.

        But now we are no longer in lockdown, are bad habits slipping back in and profit is being prioritised over people again?

        I was at my local supermarket this morning and the staff member who served me talked of how they were encouraging people to use the self serving check outs which was destroying their jobs.

        Have you seen these 2 excellent cartoons by Toby Morris? The script for the final image goes as follows.

        For Tasia, things are slowly going back to normal. Her 10% bonus is over, and it's back to earning just enough to survive. Back to living week to week.

        Back to empty shelves.

        Just like before.

        Phillip, what is your view on this?

        https://thespinoff.co.nz/society/27-04-2018/the-side-eye-empty-shelves/

        https://thespinoff.co.nz/society/the-side-eye/01-05-2020/the-side-eye-essential/

        • Phillip ure 1.1.1.1

          the profits made and the pittances paid..

          just underline that need for a major shake-up..

          any cut-price chain should be mandated to pay the living wage..

      • Phillip ure 1.1.2

        https://i.stuff.co.nz/business/opinion-analysis/117264163/wages-are-finally-up-but-is-it-the-last-flourish-of-this-economic-cycle

        it is also worth remembering that wage growth hasn't been so crash hot since that ten yr old receipt..

      • Jester 1.1.3

        I don't think the old receipt included meat or fruit & veges either that would make a difference.

      • Graeme 1.1.4

        Something definitely fishy about that piece. A Google search for 'Travel writer Stephan Huy', the supposed source of the article, doesn't bring up a hell of a lot, just the Stuff piece.

        The inquiry into our supermarket duopoly will be interesting, I suspect that the retail level will come out surprisingly well, it's a cut-throat game and there's nothing to stop a new entrant. Several have tried and come a spectacular gutsa, Warehouse being the most obvious, but there's a couple of Asian specialists that have had a go and haven't been able to make it happen. FMCG is more of an art than a science.

        Overseas comparisons, especially to Europe, US and Asia are difficult as those regions don't have our very long and very thin logistic chain. Australia, which we are a sub chain of, isn't much better. A bit fatter thanks to the larger cities, but just as long, and in some parts even longer. Try doing your weekly shop in rural WA where the logistics are similar to NZ, even more eye watering.

        What we change I don't know, can't do much about geography, apart from maybe having more people to spread the fixed costs wider. I suspect that is the main driver of the apparent reduction in that selective sample. The wine thing could be a bit different, 10 years ago $10 wine was a bit of a risk, now it's generally drinkable.

      • Cricklewood 1.1.5

        I think its more complicated, supermarkets here make similar margins to those offshore.

        Lets face it, we dont have economies of scale on the supply or distribution side. Look at all those ships parked up in the gulf waiting on the port. That cost is passed on to the importer which is then passed onto the consumer in the end…

        Fruit n Veges again work out that per kilo price and then factor in the costs involved from cultivation to harvest… then land price… and again we dont have scale…

        If margins were so much higher here the likes of Aldi and Iceland would be here in force already.

        Switzerland is an interesting country to look at esp realting to meat and dairy…

        • James Thrace 1.1.5.1

          Multinationals often see NZ and Australia as one market.

          That is, 30 million people. That's a lot of people to spread the cost of shipping and distribution amongst.

          Instead, NZ is heavily penalised on the "last mile" shipping between AU and NZ. Our 5 million people pay disproportionately more for that last mile, rather than having the cost spread over 30 million people if we were to say, have a common economic system.

  1. aom 2

    What the hell are Kelvin Davis, Corrections and the Government up to? How come they can so blatantly deprive the protesting prisoners of their basic human rights to food and drinkable water as they draw the country's attention to the long recognised sewer for humans that is Waikeria? If the Minister can't deal to the inadequacies of his Department, perhaps he should show some empathy with the prisoners by drinking his own urine outside the fence, just as they are having to do inside it.

    • WeTheBleeple 2.1

      "The prisoners are revolting, Sire"

      "Err, no, that's just their conditions."

    • Craig H 2.2

      The prison is being replaced, but the prison population is too large to close the old prison until the new one is operational. The minister has already pushed a lot of initiatives to get Corrections releasing as many people safely as legally possible, so he and the government have done their bit to reduce the population and rectify the prison being terrible. Not sure how it's the minister's fault that the department can't maintain basic services – if they haven't told him, how is he supposed to know? Even if they have told him, beyond a demand to sort it out, what is he supposed to do?

      • aom 2.2.1

        Craig, the problem is systemic and goes way beyond just creating more and larger prisons. However, the beef in the previous comment was the deliberate failure of the Minister, the department he is responsible for and the Government. Human rights are supposed to be universal and inalienable, not something granted on the whims of politicians and those who are accountable to them.

        • Craig H 2.2.1.1

          How is this the "deliberate fault of the minister"? Our system is generally set up to separate departmental operational matters from the ministers – while I'm sure he's aware now, what evidence is there that he knew anything more than the prison needs replacing and some specifics about that from the business case, which the government is doing, or why he should know more than that? Why is that not the job of the department and its CE?

      • Forget now 2.2.2

        The water has been foul for several years apparently.

        https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/433938/waikeria-prison-stand-off-now-in-its-fifth-day

        Ministers don't have to blindly believe what departments tell them, there are other sources of information if they care to investigate.

        What is Davis supposed to do? His job.

        BTW does anyone find it strange that their are two news results for; NZ riot, at the moment? It's a broad word that can encompass both; the apolitical trashing of a cafe, and the sustained occupation of a government facility!

      • Sacha 2.2.3

        Not sure how it's the minister's fault that the department can't maintain basic services – if they haven't told him, how is he supposed to know?

        The two official reports into Waikeria in 2016 and 2020 might have been a clue.

        If the department is unable to do its job, the Minister can express his lack of confidence in its CEO to their employer, the State Services Commission. Same applies to Oranga Tamariki. Let's see what Kelvin Davis is made of.

      • Morrissey 2.2.4

        …to get Corrections releasing as many people safely as legally possible….

        TRANSLATION: "to get Corrections releasing as many people as possible without inciting endless reactionary ranting from the likes of the S.S. Trust, Ruth Money, Peter Williams, Sean Plunket, Kerre ohoWmad Rovcim, the National Party, and the ACT cult.”

        That mean and merciless sub-section of the community means more to the minister and this government than safety or humanity.

        • Craig H 2.2.4.1

          Early releases are decisions for the Parole Board, so the minister and department have no discretion there. In general, there is limited discretion other than for the judge at sentencing, so Sensible Sentencing et al have no real quarrel with the minister or department, nor will anyone pay attention to them. A lot of the work was around preparing people for bail hearings better to reduce remand prisoners, but he pushed the department to do it, and it has had quite an impact.

        • millsy 2.2.4.2

          Our prison system went to shit as soon as governments started giving Garth McVicar veto over penal policy and started importing US prison designs and culture, which is bascially throw a bunch of convicts in a cage, stand back and let them kill each other.

          It doesnt help that most prisoners are heavily addicted to meth, some of them from childhood, and others have mental illnesses that have gone untreated thanks to gaps in the healthcare system, the closure of our big mental hospitals have had a big impact here.

    • Jester 2.3

      Its probably about time that Kelvin Davis at least made an appearance, or even spoke to media on what they were doing about the situation.

    • Gerald 2.4

      "We are not rioting.

      We are protesting.

      We have showed no violence towards Corrections officers – none whatsoever – yet they show up here in force armed with guns and dogs to intimidate us.

      We are the ones that are making a stand on this matter for our future people. Showing intimidation to us will only fuel the fire of future violence. We will not tolerate being intimidated any more.

      Our drinking water in prison is brown. We have used our towels for three straight weeks now. Some of us have not had our bedding changed in five months. We have not received clean uniforms to wear for three months – we wear the samer dirty clothes day in and day out. We have to wash our clothes in our dirty shower water and dry them on the concrete floor. We have no toilet seats: we eat our kai out of paper bags right next to our open, shared toilets.

      These are only very few of the reasons for the uprising.

      We are tangata whenua of this land. We are Māori people forced into a European system. Prisons do not work! Prisons have not worked for the generations before! Prisons just do not work. They keep doing this to our people, and we have had enough! There is no support in prison, all the system does is put our people in jail with no support, no rehabilitation, nothing. We have had enough.

      This is for the greater cause.

      We are not rioting.

      We are protesting.

      We have showed no violence towards Corrections officers – none whatsoever – yet they show up here in force armed with guns and dogs to intimidate us.

      We are the ones that are making a stand on this matter for our future people. Showing intimidation to us will only fuel the fire of future violence. We will not tolerate being intimidated any more.

      Our drinking water in prison is brown. We have used our towels for three straight weeks now. Some of us have not had our bedding changed in five months. We have not received clean uniforms to wear for three months – we wear the same dirty clothes day in and day out. We have to wash our clothes in our dirty shower water and dry them on the concrete floor. We have no toilet seats: we eat our kai out of paper bags right next to our open, shared toilets.

      These are only very few of the reasons for the uprising.

      We are tangata whenua of this land. We are Māori people forced into a European system. Prisons do not work! Prisons have not worked for the generations before! Prisons just do not work. They keep doing this to our people, and we have had enough! There is no support in prison, all the system does is put our people in jail with no support, no rehabilitation, nothing. We have had enough.

      This is for the greater cause."

      Anyone know if there is a Corrections rebuttal to those claims?

      The original appears to be this twitter link.

      [lprent: added the link – please don’t just drop unlinked and/or outsourced quotations on this site. What is your comment and what is the quoted material needs to be clearly identified.

      I have fixed this comment for you. Please read the policy about why it isn’t a good to waste moderator time.

      My changes are in bold italic ]

  2. Ad 3

    Huge thanks to the Guytons for their hospitality and communitarian vigour.

    Make sure you visit Riverton good TS people.

    • Robert Guyton 3.1

      It was a pleasure meeting with you (both) 🙂

    • millsy 3.2

      Really good that online communities like The Standard can facilitate real life connections.

      This used to be the norm back before Facebook/Instagram etc swallowed everything and it was all about the likes.

Leave a Comment

Use WYSIWYG comments on next comment (inactive new feature)

Recent Comments

Recent Posts

  • New ACC Board members announced.
    The Minister for ACC is pleased to announce the appointment of three new members to join the Board of ACC on 1 February 2021. “All three bring diverse skills and experience to provide strong governance oversight to lead the direction of ACC” said Hon Carmel Sepuloni. Bella Takiari-Brame from Hamilton ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 hours ago
  • Economic boost for Southland marae
    The Government is investing $9 million to upgrade a significant community facility in Invercargill, creating economic stimulus and jobs, Infrastructure Minister Grant Robertson and Te Tai Tonga MP Rino Tirikatene have announced.  The grant for Waihōpai Rūnaka Inc to make improvements to Murihiku Marae comes from the $3 billion set ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    11 hours ago
  • Celebrating the Entry Into Force of the Treaty on the Prohibition of Nuclear Weapons
    [Opening comments, welcome and thank you to Auckland University etc] It is a great pleasure to be here this afternoon to celebrate such an historic occasion - the entry into force of the Treaty on the Prohibition of Nuclear Weapons. This is a moment many feared would never come, but ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • Supporting disabled people to stay connected
    The Government is providing $3 million in one-off seed funding to help disabled people around New Zealand stay connected and access support in their communities, Minister for Disability Issues, Carmel Sepuloni announced today. The funding will allow disability service providers to develop digital and community-based solutions over the next two ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • Voluntary saliva testing offered to quarantine workers from Monday
    Border workers in quarantine facilities will be offered voluntary daily COVID-19 saliva tests in addition to their regular weekly testing, COVID-19 Response Minister Chris Hipkins said today. This additional option will be rolled out at the Jet Park Quarantine facility in Auckland starting on Monday 25 January, and then to ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • Next steps in firearms buy-back
    The next steps in the Government’s ambitious firearms reform programme to include a three-month buy-back have been announced by Police Minister Poto Williams today.  “The last buy-back and amnesty was unprecedented for New Zealand and was successful in collecting 60,297 firearms, modifying a further 5,630 firearms, and collecting 299,837 prohibited ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • Jobs for Nature projects target iconic ecosystems
    Upscaling work already underway to restore two iconic ecosystems will deliver jobs and a lasting legacy, Conservation Minister Kiri Allan says.  “The Jobs for Nature programme provides $1.25 billion over four years to offer employment opportunities for people whose livelihoods have been impacted by the COVID-19 recession. “Two new projects ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • New Public Housing Plan announced
    The Government has released its Public Housing Plan 2021-2024 which outlines the intention of where 8,000 additional public and transitional housing places announced in Budget 2020, will go. “The Government is committed to continuing its public house build programme at pace and scale. The extra 8,000 homes – 6000 public ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Prime Minister congratulates President Joe Biden on his inauguration
    Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern has congratulated President Joe Biden on his inauguration as the 46th President of the United States of America. “I look forward to building a close relationship with President Biden and working with him on issues that matter to both our countries,” Jacinda Ardern said. “New Zealand ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Jobs for Nature funding will create training and employment opportunities
    A major investment to tackle wilding pines in Mt Richmond will create jobs and help protect the area’s unique ecosystems, Biosecurity Minister Damien O’Connor says. The Mt Richmond Forest Park has unique ecosystems developed on mineral-rich geology, including taonga plant species found nowhere else in the country. “These special plant ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    7 days ago
  • Pre-departure testing extended to all passengers to New Zealand
    To further protect New Zealand from COVID-19, the Government is extending pre-departure testing to all passengers to New Zealand except from Australia, Antarctica and most Pacific Islands, COVID-19 Response Minister Chris Hipkins said today. “The change will come into force for all flights arriving in New Zealand after 11:59pm (NZT) on Monday ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Bay Cadets learn skills to protect environment
    Bay Conservation Cadets launched with first intake Supported with $3.5 million grant Part of $1.245b Jobs for Nature programme to accelerate recover from Covid Cadets will learn skills to protect and enhance environment Environment Minister David Parker today welcomed the first intake of cadets at the launch of the Bay ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Cook Islanders to resume travel to New Zealand
    The Prime Minister of New Zealand Jacinda Ardern and the Prime Minister of the Cook Islands Mark Brown have announced passengers from the Cook Islands can resume quarantine-free travel into New Zealand from 21 January, enabling access to essential services such as health. “Following confirmation of the Cook Islands’ COVID ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • Supporting communities and landowners to grow employment opportunities
    Jobs for Nature funding is being made available to conservation groups and landowners to employ staff and contractors in a move aimed at boosting local biodiversity-focused projects, Conservation Minister Kiritapu Allan has announced. It is estimated some 400-plus jobs will be created with employment opportunities in ecology, restoration, trapping, ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • Border exception for some returning international tertiary students
    The Government has approved an exception class for 1000 international tertiary students, degree level and above, who began their study in New Zealand but were caught offshore when border restrictions began. The exception will allow students to return to New Zealand in stages from April 2021. “Our top priority continues ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • Tiwai deal gives time for managed transition
    Today’s deal between Meridian and Rio Tinto for the Tiwai smelter to remain open another four years provides time for a managed transition for Southland. “The deal provides welcome certainty to the Southland community by protecting jobs and incomes as the region plans for the future. The Government is committed ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • New member for APEC Business Advisory Council
    Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern has appointed Anna Curzon to the APEC Business Advisory Council (ABAC). The leader of each APEC economy appoints three private sector representatives to ABAC. ABAC provides advice to leaders annually on business priorities. “ABAC helps ensure that APEC’s work programme is informed by business community perspectives ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • Govt’s careful economic management recognised
    The Government’s prudent fiscal management and strong policy programme in the face of the COVID-19 global pandemic have been acknowledged by the credit rating agency Fitch. Fitch has today affirmed New Zealand’s local currency rating at AA+ with a stable outlook and foreign currency rating at AA with a positive ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • Additional actions to keep COVID-19 out of NZ
    The Government is putting in place a suite of additional actions to protect New Zealand from COVID-19, including new emerging variants, COVID-19 Response Minister Chris Hipkins said today. “Given the high rates of infection in many countries and evidence of the global spread of more transmissible variants, it’s clear that ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • 19 projects will clean up and protect waterways
    $36 million of Government funding alongside councils and others for 19 projects Investment will clean up and protect waterways and create local jobs Boots on the ground expected in Q2 of 2021 Funding part of the Jobs for Nature policy package A package of 19 projects will help clean up ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • New Zealand Government acknowledges 175th anniversary of Battle of Ruapekapeka
    The commemoration of the 175th anniversary of the Battle of Ruapekapeka represents an opportunity for all New Zealanders to reflect on the role these conflicts have had in creating our modern nation, says Associate Minister for Arts, Culture and Heritage Kiri Allan. “The Battle at Te Ruapekapeka Pā, which took ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 weeks ago