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How’s Chester Borrows faring?
Do you mean they woke poor chester up?
Chester is driving the ‘Jump -or be pushes under bus’ .
Might be my eyes but I swear I read that as: “How’s Chester Borrows farting?” and I thought that’s a strange thing for you to be asking
Golly PR you are being very perky on TS lately. And really working hard at keeping up the flow, like finding farting for faring. See what other misreadings and malapropisms you can come up with. It gives you and Robert Guyton something to amuse yourselves along with the rest of us.
Merry Christmas.
My wife told me about the Maori Party Christmas song in parliament yesterday.
Call me a prude, but I think the homeless families issue is too serious to be a flippant reference in a song like this. If voting for the MP is going to fix the homeless issue, why haven’t they done something already?
I was a bit nonplussed, and wanted to get it off my chest.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgUGQbVEpRQ
3 Stories from last night’s Checkpoint:
Caravan park paid $472k in Work and Income grants
Local MP not available for interview. So much for her last week pondering on her youth as a teenage mother.
State homes empty for months awaiting redevelopment
Meanwhile a family continues to be put up in emergency housing in South Auckland:
Tuaine Murray and family move to another hotel
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[hard to see how that’s going to go anywhere useful- weka]
@weka …. so my direct experience of the person/s being used by the media to make a political point is irrelevant ?
[It didn’t look like a comment about a person being used by the media to me. It looked like you implying there was something wrong with the person based on your experience of them i.e. you wanted to slag them off in public. They’re not a public figure, so I felt you were crossing a line there and it was hard to see how the conversation was going to go anywhere but downhill and nasty.- weka]
You want us to discuss your anecdata? I think it’s a false memory brought on by telling yourself so many lies. So discussing it is a dead end.
So the media’s and other posters anecdata is OK but mine is not…
OK it’s the moderators’ site, just as you are their tame troll.
RNZ is a fairly reliable site but you’re a random weirdo on a blog, and it sounds like you’re about to victimise someone who is already vulnerable and suffering, for your own political ends.
Except that John Campbell and programmes associated with him are up in front of the BSA on a regular basis around accuracy issues. Last week they lost a particularly egregious one. Hosking doesn’t seem to have the same issues with accuracy.
Note Campbell shows also win quite a few. It’s hard work getting the bsa to go against a broadcaster
Hosking has the amazing skill of being able to accurately express his own vile prejudices: a topic he is well acquainted with.
Slow clap. I hope he gets it.
Your anecdata is fine, as an example of a false memory brought on by recidivist self-deception. It has no other value.
There are, fairly speaking, some problems with your comment, Stunned Mullet. Firstly, we have to accept that what you say is true in that you were a person’s landlord. Secondly, we have to accept your version of events which led you to your opinion. We have no way of assessing due to issues of anonymity and through lack of detail.
Thirdly, as a general observation, I have been looking to buy a vehicle, using the internet for guidance and about the only thing I can be sure of is that no matter what vehicle I looked at, there would be opinions about it being an absolute dog, especially with comments from the general public.
Reasons for condemnation would range from styling, to a perceived fault to actual major design flaws and safety issues.
Finally, I have been acting as a certain white-bearded gentleman over the xmas period, and if I were to not deliver presents based on one person’s judgement of another there’d be not many presents delivered…….. even to myself. 🙂
plus what ropata and mac1 said.
i have know idea what you said, (and i think it should be left up so we know just what you are) but have you ever noticed how your average racist/bigot usually a right winger to boot , always has a worst case scenario of bad behaviour to push what ever little bit of hate they are trying to push,
[the problem with leaving it up is that as a moderator I then have to monitor the thread to make sure it doesn’t go down the track I suspect it was going to go down. Much of moderation is about preventing extra work for moderators. It’s a fine line, I prefer to not delete things, but on balance today I went for what seemed fairest for moderators and the person who was being targeted – weka]
But not always: https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/twyford-s-racist-cynical-chinese-property-buyer-statistics-de-bunked-q00964
and Weka you do a fine job of moderating, your judgement is pretty good…mostly 😉
i never saw that as racist , a crude attempt to get the government to do it’s job more like,
cool weka , it’s easier to kill a fire at the start i suppose
Do you think the people being targeted might have thought it was racist or do they not count?
It’s very possible that some did , that doesn’t mean that Twyford is a racist though , you would have to look at his form ,. Has he ever uttered the words , some of my friends are ……(insert race of your choice) that is a 100% way to know you are talking to a racist.
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It amazes me how ShonKey just disappeared. One minute, making the most important economic, social, environmental etc decisions…… The next week golf in Hawaii……. He’s so rotten to the core.
Bomber is now floating the possibility of a book coming out next year, focused on John key and the Panama Papers.
Im sure it will be just as compelling as the moment of truth.
Dont get your hopes up. Chances are there is no book and Bomber is talking out of his proverbial. Doesnt look like he learnt from what happened with that German computer nerd in 2014.
True. It’ll be interesting to see how accurate his predictions are.
If its Nicky Hager saying a book is forthcoming then I’ll believe it but Bomber then I won’t until its published
If it was bomber – I wouldnt believe it even if one was published.
You’re right Nick. There’s something very, very odd about the Key departure.
To accept the charitable view that “family” was the main reason fits in with the Christmas spirit and one can understand that call, but his family is grown up with one even living on the other side of the world. It rings hollow.
Much more credible is the knowledge that Key over the years has proven himself to be greatly more interested in what’s good for Key and his ambition rather than anything (or anyone) else. I don’t believe any scandal or major upset lies behind his move but let’s expect him to assume a major powerful world position in the N. Year.
His work here is truly done. It served as a convenient ladder in his drive for ever more power.
“I don’t believe any scandal or major upset lies behind his move but let’s expect him to assume a major powerful world position in the N. Year.”
With the Illuminati or the reverse vampires ?
nah, most likely the IMF or something like that.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11762219
but never mind a good conspiracy theory.
The IMF theory is fake news made up by Trevett. Highly implausible
http://thedailyblog.co.nz/2016/12/07/john-key-and-the-imf-real-news-or-fake-news/
IIRC Key himself said that he might look at taking up some board positions. So he will keep hobnobbing with his corporate mates, and forget the political rabble.
i don’t akshully care what he does next, but considering where he came from it will be quite clear where he is going to.
For you, because I’ve just about knocked off for the year 🙂
http://thedailyblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/NZ-CORPORATE-FLAG-600×316.jpg
He is retiring to the mothership of the lizard people shape shifters
One week’s notice, informing no-one but Bill English.
Leaving his party up the proverbial.
Dodgy as hell, I reckon.
considering how smooth the transition is , i find it very hard to believe the whole thing wasn’t planned well in advance.
What is certain is that we haven’t been told the whole truth.
That National can conduct a peaceful transition of power and Labour can’t?
The real reasons for Ponytail Key’s sudden departure.
We’ll just have to wait for his biography to come out, I have no doubt it’ll a best seller and will be required reading in high schools, nay intermediates even
There’ll probably be an abridged version for primary schools…I could even see new born kids getting their own copies
The little blue book, has merit …..
Pony clubs are very busy in the summer requiring his full attention
For you 🙂
http://snoopman.net.nz/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/KateMiddletonKeyPonytail.jpg
Definitely helps with the media on your side writing glowing tributes and not questioning anything.
I put it more down to having the decision on a Monday after three days (I think) deliberations
Of course you would making shit up is easy for you.
Sometimes the simplest answer is the most likely answer, Slur John Key had decided who wanted to be leader and he made it so with the minimum of fuss
Another great piece by Trotter:
http://thedailyblog.co.nz/2016/12/13/the-dangers-of-political-adrenalin/
South Korea, Germany at risk from China tech rise
What they’re talking about here is a massive loss of jobs and income across quite a few countries. Even NZ will be affected as our burgeoning tech sector takes a hit.
When productivity gets as high as it already is then free-trade fails a it encourages and even enforces monopolization. This leads to decreasing income which leads to decreasing jobs further decreasing income.
The only people who ‘win’ are the rich and even they will lose.
China will probably reach the goal that they’ve set out and they will do so through planning:
China understands that a country working cooperatively can develop their economy faster than one that’s left to the ‘free-market’.
If we want to maintain our own living standards then we have to go down the same route. If we try to maintain our present failed system then things are going to get much worse.
China understands that a country working cooperatively can develop their economy faster than one that’s left to the ‘free-market’.
Correction: the people running China understand that a totalitarian dictatorship can develop its economy faster than democracies can. That’s not news – the Soviet Union already demonstrated it in the 1930s. It’s also not a good thing.
China is not the “dragon” it likes to imagine. It still has 90% of the population in third world abject poverty, a habit of building ghost cities, a terrible environmental record, and an unbelievable amount of public debt.
We don’t need their dodgy steel, imperialist ambitions, economic subterfuge, laundered money, racist culture, or tons of retirees buying up all our houses and clogging up our health system.
The FTA with China has been great for Fonterra & Oravida, and bad for everyone else.
And the US system shows that government direction and funding in a ‘market’ system also helps massively. That PC that you’re using isn’t the result of the free-market but the result of government funded and directed research.
Do we need or want a dictatorship? No
Do we need or want to develop our economy? Yes
You don’t need the first to do the second but we still need government funding to get it done.
Catherine Delahunty and Steffan Browning will not seek reelection in 2017.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=11767501
Nice to see the Greens doing some rejuvenation this year as well. I think that this will have them eat even further into the Labour numbers.
Good to see new people in politics.
Penny Bright your time is now! 🙂
Good news for the Green party. Hope they get some quality candidates in high list positions.
Okay, we’re going to play a game of What’s It Like. Today, “What it’s like to have children with autism in New Zealand.”
Just how much have the tax cuts for the rich cost us in cuts to health and other essential government services?
Thanks for linking to this, Draco.
It is absolutely heartbreaking. Life is tough enough for parents with special needs children without this kind of cost cutting.
Yeah, thanks DTB…and I am sending tears and support to Giovanni and family.
Yesterday, went off to fight the battle of the orthotic boots…https://thestandard.org.nz/fare-well-david-shearer/#comment-1275173.
Ended up standing by the cheap freezer zone in Pak n Save talking to the outfit that used to supply the boots (but now seem to have become dysfunctional) that no, we don’t need to come in yet again for another measure up because the boots supplied are the right bloody size…no…the problem is that the stitching is coming apart and merely gluing the seams together hasn’t fixed the problem. The bloody things are still falling apart. And this is the second pair we have paid a part charge for in the past three years that have been unwearable. Oh? NO refund of what we’ve paid already for boots that are not wearable until you check we paid? When the rule is you can’t pick the gear up without paying?
So, yes, fuck…I was in tears. All around Pak n Spend and all the way driving home.
These are just fucking ugg boots…they used to be made here in Godzone…
To be fair…and I honestly don’t know why I should be…they did call back a wee while ago…’lets sort it out and you can have your money back.’ There is only a tiny weeny ittybitty little worm of shame that I told her not to bother and hung up.
We have watched disability support services decline to the point of practical invisibility over the past 15 years. My partner broke his neck 46 years ago and says supports have NEVER been so bad.
Brighter fucking future my arse.
Standardnistas might be interested in some of the commentary over here…(not just my post, but all the others in the Access archive.)
http://publicaddress.net/access/help-needed-deciphering-the-plan-for-high/
I thought Ugg boots were always made in Oz.
Nothing as replaced with increase in gst and tax take is up with a booming economy
More lies from the RWNJ.
The GST increase didn’t replace the tax cuts. The tax take was at least $1 billion per year down
As GST is massively regressive then that GST increase left a large number of people worse off
Our ‘rock star economy’ seems to based solely upon how well the rich are doing with their housing bubble rather than how well the nation is doing
Editing fail at the Herald online.
Present heading says…
‘Do you have a morgage? Rates will go up.’
Well in fairness rates probably will go up but maybe not quite what they were thinking 🙂
on Keys quick departure, maybe it was family and somebody was being very naughty.
Naah probably not, Bronagh always seemed so nice:
https://static2.stuff.co.nz/1248414809/322/2672322.jpg
I’m sure she is. she’s certainly not the loose cannon.
Then I couldn’t imagine who else it could be, who do you think it is?
I wonder….
Crash coming.
Oh noes the illuminati and lizard peoples…read about it in me new book.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Rickards
Is James Rickards Right About A Coming Monetary Apocalypse?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2016/12/14/rick-perry-is-the-perfect-choice-for-energy-secretary/#37befd5a137b
The dark Lord is gone
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11767735
Bill English has certainly been busy this week…..
Settling some old scores no doubt…unless he suddenly gets a cushy diplomatic posting which would be de rigeur.
Ambassador to Saudi Arabia?
I wouldn’t call that cushy.
Maybe English would see that as a fitting post for him.
He is not an employee of the government so would only need to take a position he wanted to…remember he is one of the old guard on the original parliamentary super for the rest of his natural…doesn’t have to work another day in his life (although many would suggest that would be the case for his decades in parliament)
Or running a sheep station in the Saudi desert
Nice one.
More corruption in the US political system:
The whole US political scene has been bought and paid for.
Killer Scott Watson – denied Parole.
Still a risk to the public.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11767754
There is something dark and corrupt within our system about Scott Watson being denied parole, how long can a prisoner be kept locked up when he has done his 17+ years whether he was guilty or not. Just because he won’t admit guilt and refuses to do some courses doesn’t mean that he is going to be a risk to the public. For God sake he does fantastic paintings in jail and keeps himself productive, he could be out and making an income for himself. What more does he have to do. Isn’t his 17+ years enough and he has done his time without having to grovel and admit guilt when he may not have done the deed – what a vindictive lot Corrections are. His team need to get Amnesty International onto this disgraceful result. I cannot believe this is NZ these days – its like a bloody police state. Whether he did it or not, he needs to have his freedom – what are the cops hiding for goodness sake.
On a psychopathy checklist he fell within a group of offenders “who show an elevated rate and speed of recidivism, particularly relative to violence”.
The report acknowledged that limited information is known about his index offending but identified “perceived sexual rejection, ruminations upon revenge, positive affect associated with inflicting pain and distress and a disinhibition through alcohol intoxication”.
Yeah I’m glad he’s still locked up
Guilty or not – That is not in question – hes guilty – thats why hes doing the jail thing.
Perhaps if you read the report – you could make a more informed decision as opposed as opposed to “let him out he does nice paintings”.
“just because he won’t admit guilt and refuses to do some courses doesn’t mean that he is going to be a risk to the public”
Again read the report – that is not what it says – not even close.
Hes in there until at least 2020. BTW – he hasnt “done his 17 years” – he was sentenced to a minimum of 17 years. Looking at the information – he could be in there a lot longer.
There are certainly details that makes one question his guilt.
Not really – its been looked at over and over.
We can discuss it in 2020 when he tries again.
There is a lot of stuff which none of us will ever know about with this case. You can bet he is hiding stuff which he knows will get him killed if he divulges it and you can betcha there is a big drugs deal that was going on – just something a little dicky bird once suggested to me. The police did not do their job properly but surprise us – is that so unusual. Scott Watson was probably involved but wasn’t the main man in this – he is just a patsy for the police and a convenience – the rest of what went down was just too big and heavy for the police to handle. One day hopefully we will know exactly what went on. Scott will just end up rotting in jail for the rest of his life – and he certainly won’t be the last psychopath to be out loose in NZ – our country is littered with them – most of them holding high office god help us.
” just something a little dicky bird once suggested to me.”
Oh – you should have gone to his parole hearing then. With the nice paintings and things a dicky bird told you – he would be out walking the streets now.
Dicky birds are hardly the most credible of citations – especially when you were going off about how evil and vile corrections were.
More’s the fool you if you think this is a cut and dried case, but then you lot are not critical thinkers and accept anything that is given to you as the truth. Its bloody obvious that Scott Watson is only one part of an entire deal that went down that night. Time will tell. Believe me I am not the only one who accepts that he is doing time for only a fraction of what occurred. I am sure there are people doing very well for themselves, who fortunately for them are enjoying their freedom who know this as well.
The Fourth day of Christmas on friendship:
Enjoying these comments, and particularly agree with this.
Canadian journalist Eva Bartlett is a heroine.
Seems to be a typo in your comment – you typed “heroine” but presumably meant “shill.”
No. I admire independent journalists.
By the sound of your comment,you prefer the embedded sort.
Er, the ones appearing on behalf of dictatorships to present their official line on events are the embedded sort. She is one – the appropriate term is “shill,” not “heroine.”
One person’s heroine is another’s shill.
One persons’s Aleppo is another’s Mosul.
Thanks Paul, the corporate news media looks more hollow by the day.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/other-sports/87600767/natalie-rooney-delighted-with-increased-funding-from-high-performance-sport
Well done her, she did really well and the increased funding is totally deserving
The Herald is beating the drums of war again, echoing its sources from the corporate media.
Proof China is nearly ‘war ready’
John Pilger has predicted this.
That was predictable.
A lack of stringent and enforceable rules thanks to neo-liberalism puts corporations’ profits.over people.
Liquor laws failing to protect those vulnerable to alcohol-related harm
As Nigel Latta showed.
The Trouble With Booze
And as expert Doug Sellman has told us many times.
An irresponsible alcohol industry is doing its best to confuse
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