Open mike 28/10/2023

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1. Dennis Frank 1

   28 October 2023 at 7:03 am

   Local culture war against sleep: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/24/porirua-siren-kings-new-zealand-city-speaker-battles

   Previously in Porirua, there had been a truce with organised siren battles heading to industrial areas away from homes and finishing by 10pm, the mayor said. However in the last year, many battles have taken place in the city centre and in residential areas “blasting music and emergency siren noises at all hours of the night,” according to the petition seeking the council address the issue.

   Baker said the geography of Porirua, near Wellington, exacerbates the problem. “It’s vibrating all over the city wherever they do it because we’re in a basin. It’s really frustrating.”

   Police have received reports of about 40 incidents relating to siren battles between February and October this year, according to a report in RNZ.

   I presume continuation is due to the local MP being ineffective. Wait, you will say, doesn't mean that at all, just locals refusing to do what they're told. Yeah but why have MPs if they are merely decorative?
   • Barfly 1.1

     28 October 2023 at 8:37 am

     I don't think MPs are the ones to deal with that sort of thing /shrug
     • Dennis Frank 1.1.1

       28 October 2023 at 9:21 am

       Yeah, the notion that they're there to role-model moral leadership for younger generations no doubt freaked them out so much long ago that they banded together to institute a convention that they're only in it for the money.

       However, could be the establishment created a different office to prevent misbehaviour becoming endemic as a social problem, and that person has been on an extended holiday in Hawaii for as long as anyone can remember.
   • Mac1 1.2

     28 October 2023 at 11:41 am

     What's new? It seems in Ancient Rome in the time of the kings, young Roman men raced each other on chariots around the seven hills, causing destruction to property and danger to pedestrians.

     The answer from the politicians? Circuses! And laws to protect people and property.

     We need more circuses.
     • Mike the Lefty 1.2.1

       28 October 2023 at 11:57 am

       Wait till the new government is sworn in, we'll get a complete circus.

       Send in the clowns.
       • Mac1 1.2.1.1

         28 October 2023 at 2:15 pm

         "Send in the clowns." Don't bother, they're here.

         What we need are Shakespearean clowns, the role of whom was to talk sense to power and to criticise stupidity.

         The Fool, or Clown, Touchstone, said- "The fool thinks he is a wise man, but the wise man knows he is a fool."

         Do our clowns mentioned above know that?

         I have met Mark Mitchell, and he was a fool who thought he was wise…….
2. Dennis Frank 2

   28 October 2023 at 12:58 pm

   We seem to be at a lull in the news cycle – but the handbrake guy is shaping up:

   Luxon’s office refused to make him available for the two days after Peters’ comments and Seymour turned down media requests as well.

   Fearful of how Peters might react if either were to call the tweets incorrect, unhelpful, or misleading, the pair took an oath of silence.

   The result was Peters looking dominant, and Luxon and Seymour looking weak for not calling him out. But this is not new – it’s exactly how things operated last time New Zealand First was in office.

   https://www.newsroom.co.nz/winston-peters-flexes-his-muscles-in-a-quiet-week

   Archaic macho posturing competitions work well for political leaders manouvering for best position – you can rely on the media to promote them. I suspect there's more than a few folks around who are still into dominance/submission.
3. Patricia Bremner 3

   28 October 2023 at 2:40 pm

   They Luxon and Seymore, are awaiting the count, to see if he, Peters, has teeth or is just flapping his gums. Nov 3rd. Not long now.
4. Peter 4

   28 October 2023 at 2:47 pm

   I read something today which reminded me of David Seymour and his cobbers.

   "One of India's most revered entrepreneurs believes that young people need to put in exceptionally long hours at work if they want to see the country become a global economic powerhouse.

   N.R. Narayana Murthy, co-founder of the software behemoth Infosys, said India needs “highly determined, extremely disciplined and extremely hardworking” youngsters, who should put in 70 hours a week at work."

   Not that Seymour has the same wealth ($7.4 NZ billion), but that we're all to be little economic producing units, that's the purpose of life.

   https://edition.cnn.com/india-infosys-founder-work-hours-success-intl-hnk/index.html
   • KJT 4.1

     28 October 2023 at 3:09 pm

     Similarly Seymour and other advocates of "hard work", by others, are never that keen on their "economic producing units" having a fair share of what they produce.
   • bwaghorn 4.2

     28 October 2023 at 9:01 pm

     The problem with high achieving go getters I'd the fuckers rise to the top and think we should all be like them , my boss has 'I love to work ' written on his whiteboard above his desk, I prefer to live, !!
     • Patricia Bremner 4.2.1

       28 October 2023 at 9:33 pm

       The answer is, "If I sat on my bum, I'd love my work as well".

       Funny how office Managers feel others’ work is easy, and working 'till 67 should be ok.
       • bwaghorn 4.2.1.1

         28 October 2023 at 9:49 pm

         To be fair he does walk the talk,
5. Jester 5

   28 October 2023 at 5:34 pm

   Lets hope the All Blacks win tomorrow as the whole country will be more positive then.

   My prediction (hoping) is AB's win by 12.
   • Anne 5.1

     28 October 2023 at 6:47 pm

     Here's hoping the better team on the day wins and that the country won't go into a fit of the sulks and blame it on the outgoing government if they lose. It would fit in with the current modus operandi.
   • Muttonbird 5.2

     28 October 2023 at 7:37 pm

     Such is the lack of clarity and mandate for a new government, if the ABs win tomorrow it will be under a Labour government.
     • Craig H 5.2.1

       28 October 2023 at 7:58 pm

       That was the case regardless of the outcome as the return of the writ isn't until 9 November.
       • Muttonbird 5.2.1.1

         28 October 2023 at 8:14 pm

         That seems a bit over adjudicated.

         And you've ruined my point that the supposed incoming government is compromised, weak and uncertain. It's a hung parliament right now, yet this is the vote for change?

         Also horrible to think NACT are so unpopular that a pantomime-like, ultra-populist, conspiracy theorist is the reason they are so hamstrung.
         • Craig H 5.2.1.1.1

           29 October 2023 at 1:00 am

           While it's unlikely that the specials will change the result that much other than making NZ First necessary rather than nice to have, it's theoretically possible – enjoy a dream about that until the results are released.

           Also remember that the last time NZ First went with NAct in 1996-99, NZ First imploded.
   • Jester 5.3

     29 October 2023 at 12:10 pm

     Well I got that prediction wrong!
     • dv 5.3.1

       29 October 2023 at 12:36 pm

       You got the 12 right!!!
       • Jester 5.3.1.1

         29 October 2023 at 7:45 pm

         Thanks…very small consolation!
         • dv 5.3.1.1.1

           29 October 2023 at 7:53 pm

           yea sad bugger

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