Open mike 29/05/2023

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  1. PsyclingLeft.Always 1
    29 May 2023 at 9:58 am

    “Training more New Zealanders creates opportunities and good jobs and reduces our reliance on offshore workers to plug skills shortages,” he said.

    https://www.odt.co.nz/news/national/labour-promises-keep-apprenticeship-scheme

    Well….absolutely. This is where we should have been 20 years ago. By now we would have had many fully qualified Tradespeople.

    Hope these new apprentices vote Labour.
    Nact dont give a shit about them…

  2. Chris 2
    29 May 2023 at 11:36 am

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/300891471/work-and-income-staffer-took-fake-meth-to-cultural-diversity-morning-tea

    Not surprising. Years ago when general manager of NZISS George Hickton quit to become the CE of the TAB he said he's "taking his customers with him." Has been the same for decades.

  3. Anker 3
    29 May 2023 at 12:20 pm

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cycling/2023/05/26/trans-women-banned-from-elite-races-by-british-cycling/

    Oh so is this what trans rights activists mean when they talk about genocide against the trans population?

    Emily Bridges a six foot plus male bodied cyclist has been banned from competing in the women's team at Olympic level.

    Opps in case the link from The TElegraph is paywalled
    https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/this-is-a-violent-act-emily-bridges-slams-british-cyclings-trans-policy-banning-her-from-womens-competition
    Maybe Grant Robertson should call the Cycling Association and tell them they are being “petty and small minded” in not letting poor old Emily compete. Or perhaps he could use Emily’s words and accuse them of violence and genocide.

    Huge entitlement issue here from Emily. She should be able to use whatever bathroom she likes and compete in the women’s category even though she is a biological male, which confers significant competitive advantange on her
    “British Cycling are supporting this, they are furthering a genocide against us. Bans from sport is how it starts, look at what is going on in America. It starts with sports bans, then youth and general healthcare and then bans from public life through bathroom bans. ”
    Nobody is stopping her from competing, but she has to compete as a man. Same with bathrooms”

    • Stuart Munro 3.1
      29 May 2023 at 12:27 pm

      Putting on my evil overlord hat here – I'm not sure why anyone would bother with a trans genocide – they are not a viable population.

      • tWiggle 3.1.1
        29 May 2023 at 10:13 pm

        Untrue, trans men with working wombs can, and have, happily detransitioned to have kids, and then retransitioned.

        • Stuart Munro 3.1.1.1
          30 May 2023 at 8:49 am

          A viable population would be one that replaces its natural mortality, probably with a margin for losses from predation or accidents.

          The instances you chose rely on original sex – contemporary medicine is not up to performing gynogenesis in mammals as they do in farmed fish – or they consider the risks of trying it excessive.

          These instances (for which you have no link) are relatively rare even within the trans population, and do not remotely approach replacement.

    • Visubversa 3.2
      29 May 2023 at 1:16 pm

      It is called "Transperbole". There is a lot of it about. Not giving them what they want the second they want it is "literal violence".

      And it gets hysterical. Transgender rights activist injects testosterone in front of health officials in Florida

    • Grey Area 3.3
      29 May 2023 at 1:36 pm

      Very reasoned position from British Cycling and I like their emphasis on fairness.

      I hope more sporting bodies follow their lead. The world cycling body the UCI is currently reviewing their testosterone level-based policy.

      https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/british-cycling-ceo-says-fairness-is-the-key-driver-for-new-transgender-policy

      • tWiggle 3.3.1
        29 May 2023 at 10:25 pm

        Pointing out again, that the recent reviews by most international sports associations give policies to exclude, at ELITE level only, those who have had a male hormone advantage during development. Excluded are cis women with androgenic hormonal conditions and transgender women who have gone through puberty.

        There is no push for exclusion at lower levels, rather encouragement of inclusivity outside of high performance.

    • SPC 3.4
      29 May 2023 at 7:21 pm

      Maybe Grant Robertson should call the Cycling Association and tell them they are being “petty and small minded” in not letting poor old Emily compete

      I know of no incidence of him doing this in New Zealand. Our own rules allow exclusion at international level on grounds of fair competition and safety in domestic sport.

  4. Joe90 4
    29 May 2023 at 5:23 pm

    Gold.

    Stephen Schwartz

    @AtomicAnalyst

    This is not an interview. It's a colonoscopy

    @RonFilipkowski

    ·

    5h

    Mark Levin kicked off his interview of Trump tonight with the kind of tough question that I have been waiting for all year. Now THIS is journalism.

    https://twitter.com/AtomicAnalyst/status/1662969806507655169

  5. Anker 5
    29 May 2023 at 7:15 pm

    Why is it gold that a sex offender is in the position to fund a politician?

    you do realise that is separate to the issue of whether Target is grooming children or not don’t you?

  6. tWiggle 6
    29 May 2023 at 11:10 pm

    Someone who is funded by a groomer, accusing a box-store of 'grooming' because it sells rainbow flag onsies? I think that's called ‘applying hypocricy in the service of a manufactured moral panic’. 24 carat truth-saying.

    • Anker 6.1
      30 May 2023 at 3:24 pm

      Yes I understand what you are saying about hypocracy.

      But surely it is not gold that a sex offender is in the position to fund any political party?

      Point scoring on such a serious issue does you no good

    • Anker 6.2
      30 May 2023 at 3:42 pm

      tWiggle, when I clicked on your link about Stephen Schwartz it took me to a whole lot of info about a guy who seemed to be anti nuclear weapons. He is Stephen I Schawartz.

      In googling the name Stephen Schwartz I have found two people of that name with a different initial, one a surgeon and one a teacher, who were found with child porn images. Can you please clarify? Who has funded the right wing dudes campaign? If it is the anti nuclear bomb guy can you please post any reference that shows he is a sex offender? I couldn't find any. If you are unable to post, I will just assume you are mistaken

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