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Perhaps climate change will go away if we ignore it?

Written By: - Date published: 8:25 am, April 11th, 2017 - 22 comments
Categories: climate change, disaster, global warming - Tags: , , ,

Perhaps climate change will go away if we ignore it. That seems to be Bill English’s position:

English said it was “possible” the [Edgecumbe] flooding was linked to climate change but the Government didn’t spend time trying to make that connection.

No need to understand our problems, better to close our eyes to them.

“We are pretty focussed on trying to deal with the impacts of it and the regularity of these sorts of events is certainly heightening the understanding at central and local government about managing risk better.”

The problem with parking the ambulance at the bottom of the cliff is that it isn’t going to stop the trickle of climate change victims turning into a flood.

Asked if some areas of New Zealand would eventually need to be abandoned because of climate change, English said changes in the Resource Management Act meant councils would be much more careful about locating new developments in areas prone to natural hazards.

The answer to the question that English avoided, is yes.

22 comments on “Perhaps climate change will go away if we ignore it? ”

  1. Ask Bill what the term, “managed retreat” means.

    • One Anonymous Bloke 1.1

      He struggles with the definition of “Dipton” so that’s obviously a non-starter.

      In practice, managed retreat means that people who can afford to move (like businesses* and those with insurance) will move and everyone else will be made homeless. A competent government would plan so that this doesn’t happen. Bill English will pretend the market will do it, then blame Labour and the RMA.

      *an expensive hassle, yes, but do-able if you’re leasing premises.

  2. michelle 2

    That seems to be Bills position on most issues ‘shall be right’ we just carry on and do the same old same old the economy is doing well who cares about the people in it the market will provide.

  3. Bill is the worst seat warmer PM we’ve ever had. He is slow, dim and inadequate and they are his good points.

  4. Jenny Kirk 4

    But look here, Bill does have the answer. Let local government sort it out – the govt has now given local authorities the ability to do so – via the “reformed” resource management act. Without any extra funding too. Local govt can do it. Its not a problem for central govt – they’re not affected by it at all.

  5. saveNZ 5

    “Asked if some areas of New Zealand would eventually need to be abandoned because of climate change, English said changes in the Resource Management Act meant councils would be much more careful about locating new developments in areas prone to natural hazards.”

    Like hell it will!

    The changes to the RMZ will be the opposite, people will be building on land that is completely unsuitable and those buying will be unaware and carry the can long after the developer has taken off. Then he council will be the last one standing for litigation which is of course is the rate payers.

    Already happened with the earthquakes in Christchurch. Pre earthquake, Developers wanted to build on unstable land, council said no, developers took it to environment court and won and the houses were built. Then surprise surprise, after the earthquake it was full of liquefaction and was unable to be built on again and the government paid out to the residents.

    But it was never suitable to build on, in the first place.

  6. dukeofurl 6

    Edgecumbe had a managed solution, a floodway that by passed the town.
    Obviously that didnt work.

    Technical solutions can only do so much. Im pretty sure they will have another major flood in the next 5 years or so.

  7. Cinny 7

    A wise leader would look at relocating any vulnerable towns due to the reality of climate change. After all such moves would take quite some time until completion and involve much planning. Look to the future, tech towns safe from flooding and erosion.

    It must be horrendous for those in Edgecumbe, but with advances in science and technology, better understanding of geology and climate we now know such a location would be undesirable for any town. And there will be other towns in NZ that could be just as vulnerable, am sure the residents of Edgecumbe wouldn’t want anyone else to experience what they are going through.

  8. Sabine 8

    My Mother in laws house had two meters of rain water. Two meters.

    luckily she has 2 tiny mezzanine room where they, their grand child (homeless ex aucklander who lost his caravan in the flood) who lives with them and the three dogs huddled until Son2 came with the canoe. Btw, that is where they still huddle.

    We came next day, everything was to be thrown out, three cars, dead. carpet? dead. 32 chickens, dead. Kitchen, living room, office, all fucked.

    their neighbors? Same boat – houses fucked, cars fucked, agricultural equiment fucked, lifestock fucked.
    No this is not Edgecumbe, this is Tane Atua. But does anyone really give a shit?

    I doubt.
    As for Bill English, he should just go away. Maybe go to a seminar and learn again what that faith that he professes to adhere to is actually about. Cause i don’t think he remembers much. But, that i guess is a National Party disease.

    • tc 8.1

      Bills one of those catholics that goes to confession to be purged of his sins so he can go out and do it all again.

    • dukeofurl 8.2

      It would ideal if they could stay near their existing communities. Queensland has a lot of houses that are 2m + off the ground, thats for various reasons but it makes a difference in floods.
      It could be the sort of thing locals could be involved in with a few experts, raising the houses of those that want to stay.

  9. johnm 9

    If people simply ignore and not comment on the Climate Change nuisance, well of course it’ll go away. Out of sight and out of mind doesn’t exist! Solved! Stands to reason doesn’t it!? Same policy on housing and the homeless! Yes, I am a genius, off to church now to worship the real reality! 🙂

    • johnm 9.1

      Noah had to cope with excessive rainfall! ? I suppose we can have an Ark building program instead. It’s not as if humans haven’t coped with this stuff before!? 🙂

  10. Sabine 10

    And we are evacuating the family, the dogs, and what is left of the chickens.

    well for what its worth, the next flood can’t do much damage anymore considering that only the bare house is standing, everything else went to the tip already.

    Hoping that all goes well for those in the way of the rains.

  11. Philj 11

    Which towns/cities in NZ are at risk from rising water levels over the next say 50 – 100 years? Arks or mobile homes are looking increasingly attractive. Do we have any capacity currently for futures research in NZ? I remember now, we did once, and the government stopped its support. I wonder why they did that?

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