Refugee quota increase “shameful and inhumane”

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1. Greg 1

   13 June 2016 at 3:22 pm

   Where’s the Yadzi refugee’s, ones at imminent threat of sexual slavery, forced conversion, and death.
   Can some numbers be provided on the Gulf States quota’s.
   NZ now has its own economic refugee’s, in growing numbers of homeless gravitating towards city centers. Displaced my this governments ideological pursuit of housing free market doctrine. Lets fix this first.
2. NoThanks 2

   13 June 2016 at 3:24 pm

   I will be even less humane.

   Suck it up.

   [I’m getting tired of your trolling. You’ve already advocated mass murder twice today and that alone is ban worthy. Your next few comments had better be intelligent contributions to the debate/s or you’re going find yourself on a lengthy ban. TRP]
   • One Anonymous Bloke 2.1

     13 June 2016 at 3:41 pm

     🙄

     Yes dear.
   • Hanswurst 2.2

     14 June 2016 at 2:54 am

     What are you, a refugee from from WhaleOil or something? DId you get picked on by the others there for being too soft on those who were more fortunate than you but less fortunate than them, and felt you had to come and vent your frustration over here? There, there, little boy or girl, have a lie-down and a biscuit (if you can afford one).
3. One Anonymous Bloke 3

   13 June 2016 at 3:43 pm

   Let’s extend section 195A of the crimes act to include government ministers.
4. Nessalt 4

   13 June 2016 at 4:57 pm

   So high quality immigration is bad because apparently they are the ones that steal jobs, put infrastructure under strain and drives house prices up. And low quality immigration is bad because presumably it does none of these things? or are the multitude of societal problems that accompany refugees acceptable so that we can be seen to care on the world stage.

   Bono’s and Geldofs have done more harm than good for the worlds poor, all because they “care”. Amnesty International is fast becoming irrelevant any way thanks to the spread of capitalism.
   • One Anonymous Bloke 4.1

     13 June 2016 at 5:40 pm

     You’re still dishonestly claiming the successes of social democratic mixed economies for Capitalism. Your parents didn’t teach you about lying or something?

     That’s the problem with Tories: you’re all so fucking mendacious.
5. Richardrawshark 5

   13 June 2016 at 5:20 pm

   late 40’s early 50’s we had lots of great refugee’s that came from countries like my father’s Albania when he had to escape the communists after Churchill did a deal with Stalin for the post war split up.

   On behalf of my late father he thanks this country and so do I.

   Nothing wrong with refugee’s, there will always be the odd bad egg, don’t let them change our position.

   I’d rather we took those in need, than a place for someone who already has one and is only immigrating from say the US or UK equivalent nations.
6. BM 6

   13 June 2016 at 7:14 pm

   Any increase in refugees is a vote loser at the moment.

   The fact that Little wants to double the quota shows his complete disconnect with the NZ voter.
   • Richardrawshark 6.1

     13 June 2016 at 7:19 pm

     On this is see that BM , if the Herald poll is anything to go by.

     What it shows me is there are a lot of racist fuckers who need a dose of reality instead of believing there stereotyping sick imaginations.

     IE rant… sicko’s.
   • b waghorn 6.2

     13 June 2016 at 7:21 pm

     Bullshit all keys core voters will of heard the headline ,quota to be increased, and thought what a good man he is, it will of escaped their attention that its fuck all and its not till 2018.
     • In Vino 6.2.1

       13 June 2016 at 7:36 pm

       Yes, dead right.

       2018 is a long way away, even for me at my age.

       It’s like the education thing – funds targeted at poor students, but that fund turns out to be over 4 years, meaning only one quarter of it for the coming year… Or even that much?

       Laughably inadequate from serial liars.
7. Richardrawshark 7

   13 June 2016 at 7:29 pm

   How does the population get upset by saving a measly 750 desperate refugee’s when they allow 32250 immigrants to come each year. Up to at one time 70000.

   And most of them own takeaways, dairies, drive taxi’s and do stuff all that I see as needed jobs. No offence to them but having a proper job that is essential should be part of our immigration process.

   I hate the people in this country sometimes, when you travel a bit you realize what a fkn sad bunch of redneck fucks these bumpkins are that vote in these polls.

   We are 20 years behind most of the countries I’ve visited in multiculturalism
   Mike Hoskings, jeez he’d be roasted by public opinion as the low brow piece of bigotry he is, in a microsecond. That’s you BM, the Mike Hoskings type?

   Would you take in refugee’s or dump them for more taxi drivers?
   • BM 7.1

     13 June 2016 at 8:16 pm

     Auckland is rated as one of the most multicultural cities in the world.

     Little old Tokoroa isn’t really that representative of NZ.
     • Richardrawshark 7.1.1

       13 June 2016 at 8:34 pm

       having loads of people from many nations does not make one multicultural, neither is reciting travel slogans BM.

       How one accepts people of different races/nationalities is the sign of true multiculturalism.

       I’ve yet to see a perfect society, but NZ claiming it’s multicultural anywhere is a joke.
     • Richardrawshark 7.1.2

       13 June 2016 at 8:39 pm

       Oh Tokoroa, Auckland, Oamaru, Warkworth, Helensville, Hamilton, Wellsford,London, Sunderland, Bournemouth, Christchurch, Brussels, Greece, Albania, France etc etc etc.

       Home is where you hang your hat BM, currently back relaxing in Toke had enough getting too old to travel much these days. Can hardly drive to Aucks without needing a nana nap.
8. Descendant Of Sssmith 8

   13 June 2016 at 7:39 pm

   I’d much rather have genuine refugees come to this country than those who flee the UK bitching about how their own country has been wrecked but then wish to impose the same Thatcherist policies here in NZ that gave them the thefty where-with-all to move here, the evangalistic no-tax and right wing religious jerks who hate what America has become and wish to make NZ into their own image of bigoted utopia and the post fall of apartheid white South Africans who bring their own notions of gated white communities and racist attitudes.

   These ones all have money and have no sense of the communal and egalitarian policies we once had.

   One South African of this ilk described to me how family is everything and bugger anyone else. Look after your own and stuff everyone else. Violently if need be.

   These types of moneyed refugees are just as detrimental to our society – in many respects more so. Educated and with money they hold positions of power and influence. They get media time and join political parties and influence laws and attitudes. They infiltrate education via Boards of Trustees and so on.

   I can’t remember now if it was last election or the one before that had six or seven Act Party candidates having to scramble to “become New Zealanders” at the last minute.

   And that’s what was so funny and so tragic today about the Act Party talking about New Zealand values.

   I oft use the NZ yearbooks to describe for instance our welfare system as they give a great historical perspective of the values that were present at the time.

   This time from 1976. The values expressed here are so very far removed from what these people propose and think.

   “It transfers income from the more to the less affluent mainly on the basis of greatest help for those in greatest need. It reflects the traditional humanitarian, egalitarian, and pragmatic approach of New Zealanders and, most importantly, reflects an acceptance of community responsibility for social welfare.”

   https://www3.stats.govt.nz/New_Zealand_Official_Yearbooks/1976/NZOYB_1976.html#idchapter_1_53820

   “The objectives of the policy for benefits and pensions are:

   To safeguard individuals in the community against loss of income or reduction in income brought about by age, incapacity, widowhood, orphanhood, unemployment or other circumstances by providing income security at a level which will enable them to belong and participate in the community; and benefits for children as a contribution towards their maintenance.

   To provide assistance towards housing finance for families of moderate means by way of an advance of family benefit.

   To provide additional benefits for those whose income and financial resources are insufficient to meet their living costs and other commitments.”

   I’m pretty sure when Act talks about New Zealand values they don’t mean these.
   • Scythe 8.1

     14 June 2016 at 1:11 am

     lol. Let’s go back to 1976 values, guyz! Only two washing machines to choose from! What a convenience! And getting permission from the government to buy overseas magazines! Yeah, that’s totally reasonable! And whatever happened to carless days!?!?

     Sometimes I think this website serves exclusively those with learning disabilities and the incompetent at life.

     What am I saying, it wouldn’t exist without those two intellectual powerhouse demographics.
     • One Anonymous Bloke 8.1.1

       14 June 2016 at 6:54 am

       I note that when confronted with values regarding people, you immediately changed the subject to the value you place on material goods.

       QED.
     • Descendant Of Sssmith 8.1.2

       14 June 2016 at 7:38 am

       “Sometimes I think this website serves exclusively those with learning disabilities and the incompetent at life. ”

       We are compassionate left wingers so we do allow the right wingers you describe to post here.

       “Only two washing machines to choose from”

       A lie to challenge my statement. Really. Were you even alive in 1976.

       What’s interesting about the values expressed is that we still apply then to NZS but not to other welfare recipients.

       That’s a return to Victorian values of deserving and undeserving poor. In trying to ridicule a 1976 sense of fairness and sensibility you completely overlook the current regression to much older conservative values.

       I wouldn’t necessarily agree either that being able to buy for instance 600 variations of sunglasses all manufactured by the same company Luxottica is progress. It’s a great illustration of how much of the “competition” that exists is fake.

       http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052748704518904575365362932852610
9. Keith 9

   13 June 2016 at 7:47 pm

   It should read “Shameful and inhumane response to our less well off New Zealanders, a stain on our country’s reputation”

   When National have no plan and or could not care less about our own in need, what hope is there for anyone else?
10. KJT 10

    13 June 2016 at 10:28 pm

    The right thing to do would be to increase our refugee quota by several thousand.

    And cut down the residency permits for US tax dodgers, Chinese fraudsters, Nigerian bankers, Russian dodgy businessmen and the outright criminals, who happen to have 10 million dollars.

    Nearly forgot to mention the US “Libertarians” escaping the mess they have made of their own country.

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