web analytics

Romney joins the birthers

Written By: - Date published: 2:41 pm, August 27th, 2012 - 55 comments
Categories: us politics - Tags: , ,

I’ve been meaning to write for a while on the American presidential campaign, and the terrifying possibility of a Ryan-Romney presidency. Later I hope, but I can’t help but note briefly now that Mitt Romney has joined the truly loony “birthers”:

Romney makes birth certificate dig at Obama

US Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney took a dig at President Barack Obama today over his birth certificate in comments that re-ignited the controversy over the Democrat’s eligibility to be president.

“No one’s ever asked to see my birth certificate,” Romney told a rally of some 7000 people in his home state of Michigan. “They know that this is the place that we were born and raised,” he said to the laughter of the crowd, speaking alongside his wife, Ann.

Romney’s comments were a reference to the widely discredited belief that Obama, whose father was from Kenya, was not born in the United States and thus is not eligible to be president. …

Romney brought up the issue despite having complained recently that the campaign had taken a nasty tone.

“Throughout this campaign, Governor Romney has embraced the most strident voices in his party instead of standing up to them,” Obama campaign spokesman Ben LaBolt said.

“Governor Romney’s decision to directly enlist himself in the birther movement should give pause to any rational voter across America,” he said.

Give pause to “any rational voter” – that’s true. But the longer I spend watching politics the more I see that rationality has bugger all to do with it. A Ryan-Romney presidency is a very real possibility. Then things get really interesting.


55 comments on “Romney joins the birthers”

  1. Romney has consistently maintained he believes Obama is a natural citizen.  

    • Lightly 1.1

      yeah but he’s dog-whistling racists and that’s despicable.

      birther-ism is just racism in disguise.

    • felix 1.2

      “Romney has consistently maintained he believes Obama is a natural citizen.”

      So he’s playing to those who believe the birther nonsense, even though he knows it’s wrong. That’s actually worse that if he believed it IMO.

      • Na, no need for him to even do that because birthers wouldn’t vote Obama anyway.

        I think he just made a stupid joke. It isn’t like he is known for making well thought out comments. The man is a buffoon.

        • felix

          “birthers wouldn’t vote Obama anyway”

          That’s a moot point, he’s not saying this shit to try to win support from Obama voters. He’s saying it to build, nurture and strengthen the support of the racist, redneck, retard elements of his own party.

          And by doing so, he lends a little bit of credence to their offensive idiot views and makes the whole world a tiny bit worse forever.

          And yep, he’s a buffoon. But New Zealanders of all people ought to be wary of writing off buffoons.

          • TheContrarian

            Thing with Mitt Romney, and what I consider to be his greatest weakness, is that he doesn’t know what he is trying to be. His personality comes across as “rich guy wants to run the country” and a lot of the gaffes he makes come from a position of him trying to define himself as something else and failing miserably.

      • seeker 1.2.2

        And mine felix. Doing it “even though he knows it’s wrong” debases the man, and in turn dog whistles the baser instincts of humanity for his own ends. Those who follow him and agree with him become debased in turn. It’s so infectious, it’s almost a right wing virus.

    • joe90 1.3

      birther-ism is just racism in disguise

      Ta-Nehisi Coates: Fear of a Black President.

      If Obama is not truly American, then America has still never had a black president.

    • Matt 1.4

      Um, if one thing characterizes candidate Romney, it is that he has not maintained a consistent position on anything.

  2. Carol 2

    “No one’s ever asked to see my birth certificate,” Romney told a rally of some 7000 people in his home state of Michigan. “They know that this is the place that we were born and raised,” he said to the laughter of the crowd, speaking alongside his wife, Ann.

    This looks to me more like a racist dog whistle, rather than expressing a belief Obama was not born in the US. It is invoking a racial hierarchy by implying that Romney is more truly a US-ian because of his ethnicity/skin colour

  3. Bored 4

    I posted Orlovs tongue in cheek comment on another post earlier…refers to the idiots who will vote Romney.

    …….. go out and take part in the Reverse French Revolution that’s underway in the US. That’s where revolting peasants do all they can to elect an aristocrat who will swindle them out of their savings even faster and lock up even more of them in the Bastille. And what makes these peasants so revolting is that they are all fat—from eating cake instead of bread, just as Marie Antoinette had suggested.

  4. Pete 5

    Nate Silver of Fivethirtyeight still gives Obama a 69.4% chance of winning a second term. Unless there’s a huge October surprise or the economy goes into freefall, I don’t think that will change.

  5. Pascal's bookie 6

    It is possible that the GOP hasn’t been using a whole lot of racist bullshit in the permanent campaign.

    It’s also possible that they aren’t referencing all of that stuff in the more intensive campaign in the lead up to November in order to give the more excitable racist halfwits in their base a reason to vote for a flipflopping Mormon stuffed shirt who that very same base has been hating on for the last few runs around the electoral turnpike.

    It’s possible. Both of those things are possible. But it doesn’t look very likely in this particular universe.


  6. muzza 7

    It makes no difference who you have, you get the same result, simply faster if the GOP are flying the red flag and at the wheel!

    If TPTB wanted Obama back in, they would be printing again by now, so its war or lose I expect for him.

    Romney, fantastic, get a look where his family came from and some of his distant relatives, and do the same with Paul Ryan, what a pair those two make!


    Why R0b, did you bother writing this article, was it purely to show your bias and eager need to take a poke a hole at the “birthers”, because your words are transparent.

    The whole piss-take that is 100% controlled US politics is awful to witness, so to have an article of this low quality on TS, not even attempting to cover anything constructive at all, says alot about the author.

    You can do better than this r0b, total waste of energy writing on what is obviously a personal bug bear!

    • felix 7.1

      Jeez muzza, don’t tell me you believe that birther rubbish as well.

      • muzza 7.1.1

        I dont have an opinion either way, because it makes no difference,.

        This years presidential “choices”,

        The Wall St rent boy, racial appeaser with a fake peace prize, questionable past and beliefs


        The Wall St rent boy asset stripper, who wont show his tax returns, is a mormon bishop, and possibly trying to live out some sort of oath, or prophecy according to his beliefs

        Sweet options!

        • locus

          You don’t have an opinion either way…. Why not answer the question and agree that birthers are seriously fruitcake racists?

          • muzza

            I won’t answer, because I do not know/care either way that they are “seriously fruitcaske rac*sts”. Some will be, some won’t be, either way, its again just smoke and mirrors!

            Notice how they each have a distraction issue to throw at eachother, Romney with his tax returns, and Obama with the birth certificate.

            Instead of following the “distractions”, which you do to try convince yourself that you are not some “closet rac*st”, maybe take a look into what both these “men” represent!

  7. captain hook 8

    Rachael Maddow on Letterman this afternoon. “The Republican Party is toxic, anti science and creating states laws to stop people from voting.
    I guess the vote is only ‘legitimate’ if you are a republican.
    Romney is also promising to cut taxes for the rich too.
    Looks like the USA is starting to weird out and go on the wonk New Zealand style.

  8. Macro 9

    The UK media got it right – “Mitt the Twit!”
    Only idiots would vote for that man.


  9. Tim G 10

    Similar neo-lib shit, different colour and incredibly boring.

    Supposedly intelligent TS readers repeating the same rubbish about Romney being wooden and JK being affable/personable – apparently if the media keep repeating it you’ll buy it.

    I am always amazed that my completely politically-disengaged friends in NZ can get excited about what is effectively a 1 horse race.

  10. Colonial Viper 11

    I think the Republicrats will win. Or maybe the Demoblicans. Well, regardless of who actually wins, it will be one of the bankster-sponsored political parties.

    • Mr Burns 11.1

      Of course it will. Us business elites have standards to maintain. What are you saying, that ordinary people should have a say in how America is run? What are you a, <splutter>, communist?

  11. mike 12

    “Corporations are people, my friend,” Romney said.

    Some people in the front of the audience shouted, “No, they’re not!”

    “Of course they are,” Romney said. “Everything corporations earn ultimately goes to people. Where do you think it goes?”


    Wow this guy is a genius. His words make so much sense! I used to think that everything that corporations earned ultimately went to offshore tax havens, or maybe zebras. But now I see that it actually goes to… people.

    And clearly, this proves that corporations in fact are people.

    Haha American politics is farney.

    • Worse – the US Supreme Court confirmed this in the Citizens United case, when it held that corporations were in fact, entitled to fund political campaigns as a constitutional right under the First Amendment, a right that was reserved until that point for human beings. Then comes the Super PAC, and the unfortunate richest-man-takes-all political system that is the United States.

  12. Tracey 13

    The obvious unfounded retort is ” I only have one wife”

  13. This kind of rhetoric is dangerous. It smacks of nationalism and in some cases, plain racism. In many respects, the Republican party is highly racist, which interestingly goes against their roots, founded as they were an anti-slavery party: http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/25/politics/cnn-explains-gop-party/index.html?
    Lincoln is celebrated by both sides of the fence (as I believe, he should be), but he was far more “left” than the average Republican nowadays. The obsession with national myths – the Boston Tea Party for example – is useful to a point. The problem is that they are mythologised into fantasy, and their meaning is lost. Popularising things for political ends to manipulate the masses is dangerous. Especially, as in this case, it is basically racism.

    Many americans sadly do not need to be encouraged on that front.

  14. tc 15

    Is anyone surprised after electing and then re-electing the Village idiot, george double ya, that mittens is anything but as mad as a box of frogs.

    from a land where they have massive warehouses of religious books from old and recent print runs/recycle runs piling up because ya can’t destroy the word of god you know

  15. captain hook 16

    is romney legitimate?

  16. fatty 17

    I love the US elections…almost as good as a season of Breaking Bad

    • lprent 17.1

      Nah – reassembles a recent season of True Blood – full of arcane story arcs, far too many characters, a world where working for a living is steadily becoming something that only innocent victims do, and punctuated by vast screeds of arterial blood as the storyline slowly spins out of control.

      By which you can deduce that
      a. I get forced to at least listen to the series.
      b. I don’t like the series much.
      c. The series makes more sense than US politics since they evisicate news readers in prime time….

      and based on turnout in the US where more people don’t vote than vote for either presidential candidate… I guess they view it the same way I do.

  17. Is there a reason we are being this childish?

  18. millsy 19

    In the 1980 campaign, Reagan was endorsed by 2 labour unions, PATCO (ooops..), and the Teamsters. He also delivered a speech with words to the effect that unions engaging in collective bargaining was an example of freedom.

    In the 1970’s Richard Nixon increased funding to universities and introduced laws to combat air pollution. He also proposed a form of universal health care and a UBI. The space shuttle was designed and developed with his backing.

    Dwight Eisenhower created the Interstate Highway system, expanded Social Security carried on with the New Deal.

    Infact, a large amount of the Republicans who either held or campaigned for office in the post-war period, would be considered to be well to the left of the party in 2012.

Recent Comments

Recent Posts


  • September benefit figures disappointing
    The Government is out of touch with the reality that fewer people are going off the benefit and into employment or study, says Labour’s Social Development spokesperson Carmel Sepuloni.  “The quarterly benefit numbers for September are concerning. They show that ...
    4 days ago
  • MFAT officials refuse to back Prime Minister on Saudi sheep claims
    An Ombudsman’s interim decision released about the existence or otherwise of legal advice on the multimillion dollar Saudi sheep deal shows MFAT has failed to back up the Prime Minister’s claims on the matter, says Labour MP David Parker. “The ...
    4 days ago
  • Nats still planning to take Housing NZ dividend
    Housing New Zealand’s Statement of Performance Expectations shows that the National Government intends to pocket $237m from Housing New Zealand this year including a $54m “surplus distribution”, despite promises that dividends would stop, says Labour’s Housing spokesperson Phil Twyford. “After ...
    4 days ago
  • Parliament must restore democracy for Ecan
    Parliament has a chance to return full democracy to Canterbury with the drawing of a member’s bill that would replace the Government’s appointed commissioners with democratically elected councillors, says Labour’s Canterbury Spokesperson Megan Woods. “In 2010, the Government stripped Cantabrians ...
    5 days ago
  • Police struggle to hold the line in Northland
    Labour’s promise of a thousand extra police will go a long way to calming the fears of people in the North, says the MP for Te Tai Tokerau Kelvin Davis.  “Police are talking about the Northland towns of Kaitaia and ...
    5 days ago
  • Urgent action on agriculture emissions needed
    Immediate action is required to curb agricultural emissions is the loud and clear message from Climate change & agriculture: Understanding the biological greenhouse gases report released today by the Parliamentary Commissioner for the Environment, says Labour’s Climate Change spokesperson Megan ...
    6 days ago
  • Super Fund climate change approach a good start
    Labour Finance Spokesperson Grant Robertson and Climate Change Spokesperson Dr Megan Woods have welcomed the adoption of a climate change investment strategy by the New Zealand Super Fund. “This is a good start. It is a welcome development that the Super ...
    6 days ago
  • Raising the age the right thing to do
    The announcement today that the Government will leave the door open for young people leaving state care still means there is a lot of work to do, says Labour's Spokesperson for Children, Jacinda Ardern "The Government indicated some time ago ...
    6 days ago
  • Coleman plays down the plight of junior doctors
    Junior doctors are crucial to our health services and the industrial action that continues tomorrow shows how desperately the Government has underfunded health, says Labour’s Health spokesperson Annette King.  “Jonathan Coleman’s claim that he has not seen objective evidence of ...
    6 days ago
  • Inflation piles pressure on National and Reserve Bank
    While many households will welcome the low inflation figures announced today, they highlight serious questions for both the National government and the Reserve Bank, Labour’s  Finance Spokesperson Grant Robertson said.  "While low inflation will be welcomed by many, the ...
    7 days ago
  • Officials warned Nat’s $1b infrastructure fund ineffective and rushed
    Treasury papers show the Government rushed out an infrastructure announcement officials told them risked making no significant difference to housing supply, says Labour’s housing spokesperson Phil Twyford.  “Like so much of National’s housing policy, this was another poll-driven PR initiative ...
    7 days ago
  • More cops needed to tackle P
    New Police statistics obtained in Written Questions show John Key is losing his War on P, highlighting the need for more Police, says Opposition Leader Andrew Little.  “New Zealanders expect serious action on P but today’s hodgepodge of half-measures won’t ...
    1 week ago
  • MBIE docs show country needs KiwiBuild, not Key’s pretend “building boom”
    John Key’s spin that New Zealand is in a building boom does not change the massive shortfall in building construction as new MBIE papers reveal, says Labour Party housing spokesperson Phil Twyford.  “We can fix the housing crisis, by the ...
    1 week ago
  • 1 in 7 Akl houses now going to big property speculators
    Speculators are running riot in the Auckland housing market making life tougher for first home buyers, says Labour’s housing spokesperson Phil Twyford.  Newly released data from Core Logic shows a 40 per cent increase in the share of house sales ...
    1 week ago
  • Labour mourns passing of Helen Kelly
    Helen Kelly was a passionate advocate for working New Zealanders and for a safe and decent working life, Leader of the Opposition Andrew Little says.  “Helen Kelly spent her adult life fighting for the right of every working person to ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Andrew Little: Speech to the Police Association Conference 2016
    Police Association delegates, Association life members and staff, representatives from overseas jurisdictions. Thank you for inviting me here today. The Police Association has become a strong and respected voice for Police officers and for policing in New Zealand. There is ...
    2 weeks ago
  • 1,000 more police for safer communities
    Labour will fund an extra 1,000 Police in its first term to tackle the rising rate of crime, says Leader of the Opposition Andrew Little. “Labour will put more cops on the beat to keep our communities safe. ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Call for all-party round table on homelessness
    Labour is calling on the Government to take part in a roundtable meeting to hammer out a cross-party agreement on ending homelessness.  Labour’s housing spokesperson Phil Twyford said the country wanted positive solutions to homelessness, and wanted the political parties ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Working people carrying the can for the Government
    Today’s announcement of a Government operating surplus is the result of the hard work of many Kiwi businesses and workers, who will be asking themselves if they are receiving their fair share of growth in the economy, Grant Robertson Labour ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Breast cancer drugs should be available
    Labour supports the Breast Cancer Aotearoa Coalition’s campaign for better access to cancer treatments as more patients are denied what is freely available in Australia, says Labour’s Health spokesperson Annette King.  “In the last three years, PHARMAC’s funding has been ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Community law centres get much needed support from banks
      New Zealand’s network of community law centres, who operate out of more than 140 locations across the country, have today received a much needed boost, says Labour’s Justice spokesperson Jacinda Ardern.  “After more than 8 years of static funding ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Just 18 affordable homes in Auckland SHAs – It’s time for KiwiBuild
    New data revealing just 18 affordable homes have been built and sold to first home buyers in Auckland’s Special Housing Areas show National’s flagship housing policy has failed and Labour’s comprehensive housing plan is needed, says Leader of the Opposition ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Pasifika wins big in Auckland elections
    The Labour Party’s Pacific Candidates who stood for local elections in Auckland came out on top with 14 winners, says Labour’s Pacific Island Affairs spokesperson Su’a William Sio. “Our candidates have won seats on one ward, four local boards, two ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Seven7 hikoi to stop sexual violence
    2 weeks ago
  • Road toll passes 2013 total
    The road toll for the year to date has already passed the total for the whole of 2013, raising serious questions about the Government’s underfunding of road safety, says Labour’s Transport spokesperson Sue Moroney.  “According to the Ministry of Transport, ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Bay principals slam charter school decision
    A letter from Hawke’s Bay principals to the Education Minister slams the lack of consultation over the establishment of a charter school in the region and seriously calls into question the decision making going on under Hekia Parata’s watch, says ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Government needs to act on voter turnout crisis
    With fewer than 40 per cent of eligible voters having their say in the 2016 local elections, the Government must get serious and come up with a plan to increase voter turnout, says Labour’s Local Government Spokesperson Meka Whaitiri. ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Inquiry presents solutions to homelessness – Govt must act
    Labour, the Green Party and the Māori Party are calling on the Government to immediately adopt the 20 recommendations set out in today's Ending Homelessness in New Zealand report. ...
    2 weeks ago
  • A good night for Labour’s local government candidates
    It has been a good night for Labour in the local government elections. In Wellington, Justin Lester became the first Labour mayor for 30 years, leading a council where three out of four Labour candidates were elected. Both of Labour’s ...
    2 weeks ago
  • More contenders for fight clubs
    Allegations of fight clubs spreading to other Serco-run prisons must be properly investigated says Labour’s Corrections spokesperson Kelvin Davis. ...
    3 weeks ago
  • Minister runs for cover on job losses
    Māori Development Minister Te Ururoa Flavell’s refusal to show leadership and provide assurances over the future of the Māori Land Court is disappointing, given he is spearheading contentious Maori land reforms which will impact on the functions of the Court, ...
    3 weeks ago
  • Kiwisaver contribution holiday not the break workers were looking for
    The number of working New Zealanders needing to stop Kiwisaver payments is another sign that many people are not seeing benefit from growth in the economy, says Grant Robertson Labour’s Finance spokesperson. "There has been an increase of 14 ...
    3 weeks ago
  • Fight Club failings
    The Corrections Minister must take full responsibility for the widespread management failings within Mt Eden prison, says Labour’s Corrections spokesperson Kelvin Davis. ...
    3 weeks ago
  • Rethink welcomed
    The Labour Party is pleased that Craig Foss is reconsidering the return of New Zealand soldiers buried in Malaysia, says Labour’s Foreign Affairs spokesperson David Shearer. “For the families of those who lie there, this will a welcome move. The ...
    3 weeks ago
  • Disappointment over UN vote
    Helen Clark showed her characteristic drive and determination in her campaign to be UN Secretary General, and most New Zealanders will be disappointed she hasn't been selected, says the Leader of the Opposition Andrew Little. "Helen Clark has been an ...
    3 weeks ago
  • Māori need answers on Land Court job losses
    Māori landowners, Māori employees and Treaty partners need answers after a Ministry of Justice consultation document has revealed dozens of roles will be disestablished at the Māori Land Court, says Ikaroa-Rāwhiti MP Meka Whaitiri. ...
    3 weeks ago
  • Key’s ‘efficiencies’ = DHBs’ pain
          John Key’s talk of ‘efficiencies’ ignores the fact the Government is chronically underfunding health to the tune of $1.7 billion, says Labour’s Acting Health spokesperson Dr David Clark.       ...
    3 weeks ago
  • More than 1,300 schools to face budget cuts
    The latest Ministry of Education figures reveal thousands of schools will face cuts to funding under National’s new operations grant funding model, says Labour's Education spokesperson Chris Hipkins. ...
    3 weeks ago
  • Speculation fever spreads around country
    House prices in Wellington, Hamilton and Tauranga are going off as a result of uncontrolled property speculation spilling over from the Auckland market, says Labour’s housing spokesperson Phil Twyford.  “Speculators who have been priced out of Auckland are now fanning ...
    3 weeks ago
  • New Zealand lags on aid targets
      The National Government needs to live up to its commitments and allocate 0.7 per cent of Gross National Income on development assistance, says Labour’s spokesperson on Pacific Climate Change Su’a William Sio.  “The second State of the Environment Report ...
    3 weeks ago
  • War on drugs needs more troops
    The Minister of Police must urgently address the number of officers investigating illegal drugs if she is serious about making a dent in the meth trade, says Labour’s Police spokesperson Stuart Nash.  “Answers from written questions from the Minister show ...
    3 weeks ago
  • Doctors strike symptom of health cuts
    The notice of strike action issued by the junior doctors today is the result of years of National’s cuts to the health system, says Labour’s Associate Health spokesperson Dr David Clark. ...
    3 weeks ago
  • Government starves RNZ into selling Auckland asset
    Just weeks after TVNZ opened its refurbished Auckland head office costing more than $60 million, RNZ (Radio New Zealand) has been forced to put its Auckland office on the market to keep itself afloat, says Labour’s Broadcasting spokesperson Clare Curran. ...
    3 weeks ago
  • Government must be more than a bystander on the economy
    Despite what he might think John Key is not a political commentator, but actually a leader in a Government who needs to take responsibility for the conditions that mean a rise in interest rates, says Labour’s Finance Spokesperson Grant Robertson.  “John ...
    3 weeks ago