Is Pope Francis the Anti-Christ? This video 'may' help you make up your mind. https://youtu.be/63Z2K5zc_yw?t=758
Greenland? That is a cool place. Will suit them. They could take a very large Red Peak nylon rag imported from China with them. May be even build one very big one with strong concrete on top of a peaky hill and worship it at every night at mid night ...
Especially with a surreptitious secret deal with Key and costing an EXTRA $400,000 to the public for their dumb 'deal'! Silly naive numpties. KOF
<i."What Key has done is turn the flag into an instrument of division, political manipulation and controversy instead of one of unity, and for that he should be held fully accountable" Yes, +1 Key stupidly started this serious issue as a National party ...
+1 KOF
From your link: "This is the dog-whistle about Pope Francis now being transmitted by the Republican Party to its Evangelical base. The right-wing Washington Times and Newsmax, neither of which I will link to, have also laid the "F" word at the Pontiff's ...
That is very interesting and something I did not know at all. Cheers!
Yes, I did watch that speech a few weeks ago. The welcome and reception he received from those young people was astonishing. "I can still not reconcile with the church of my upbringing as essentially they still have an issue being women and children as ...
" but Russel Norman would’ve been an infinitely better finance minister than Parker" I completely disagree with that. Parker is highly competent to hold that post. The very thought of Russel Norman being the possible finance minister and thus the Greens ...
+1. Great words, Detrie. Thought provoking and challenging. Thanks.
+1 Another brilliant comment.
"Yours Sincerely Now to be Ex Green Voter" I doubt if you will be the only one to do so after this shameful and shady episode.
"Maybe swordfish or puddleglum might like to have a look at the numbers" Sure, ask them! A second opinion. Thanks for your vote of confidence. I have given you the links to check it out yourself in the meantime.
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<i."Are you trying to tell me the Greens are so holy now they are just in it to be the good guys?" Bull, they are. Remember how just before the last election, these politically stupid minor party upstarts, put forward IN PUBLIC statements, their arrogant ...
I agree with your view, except that I oppose the WAY the Greens went about this issue in quite an underhanded way. I disagree with your statement, "my ire went to Labour Party when they were trying to ‘help’ the government out of a pickle re the flag ...
@weka, did you see the link I posted above at 22.1.1.1.1.1? Here it is in full detail: There was a surge of support primarily FOR the power plan, but not necessarily because it was a joint Lab-Green plan. I think there was support to the prospect of ...
Correct!
Me too. I was not likely to vote the Greens because something does not endear them to me. I often kind of feel uncomfortable and squeamish about them. After this despicable episode I also feel they are not to be trusted. Now I will most certainly not give ...
Well said. I will say this again: The Greens have been complete dumb asses here. The depth of their political stupidity and lack of common sense has been astounding!
Yeah, just happily polish the right wing turd you mean.
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"The point where the GP and Labour both polled highest pre-election was when they were united on policy and presented as working together" That was straight after the jointly announced power policy? No not really. I think it is just a false spin ...
"Because this is a strategy that only works for the Greens. Labour stating that a Labour-led Government will be Labour/Greens loses votes from its left to the Greens, from its right to National and from (wherever NZ First voters come from) to NZ First." ...
"providing more choice for voters cannot be a bad thing" The issue is not that. The issue is how the backsliding two timers went sneakily about behind the scenes doing a dirty deal with a cunning, crooked and desperate enemy in a deep shit hole. Iscariot ...
"maybe its part of the bigger Green plan thats going on" They just discovered an appetite for Key's arse and decided to haul Key out of it.
"It is not the Greens fault that the Labour party has been languishing under 30% for years' So what is your excuse for the Greens to be languishing just about 6 to 10% for years?
" they threw JK a lifeline and and also made their own supporters annoyed" Dumb fools.
But I suspect that after their secret arse licking of Key, the Green dunderheads will begin to lose some of their support base, primarily benefiting New Zealand First, whose position as the coalition king makers will get more strengthened.
Good point. Yep, just add the cost of the rag change to our mounting debt. How about a cuddly Panda too at an estimated $50 to $100 million cost for a10 year lease? That is the crazy amount of debt, 106 billion dollars, ($106,000,000,000) that this crap ...
I think Labour got involved because Key specifically offered that he would include a fifth flag if Labour supported it. Labour said yes but publicly made its position clear. Not so the gormless Greens.
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