Sickening

Written By: - Date published: 11:21 am, February 21st, 2011 - 74 comments
Categories: afghanistan, john key, slippery - Tags: ,

Key has blamed a soldier being killed in Afghanistan for the limo affair. This is just an attempt by Key to protect himself from criticism by hiding behind a soldier’s death. This is just sickening. The very worst kind of politics from a man who can’t take responsibility for his actions and is happy to take advantage of others’ tragedy.

A couple of simple questions show Key is lying: what work did Kirifi Mila’s death create for Key and are we to believe the Nats can’t do two things at once? Anyway, the Nats knew about the limos since Key rode in one in April last year.

On the topic of the limos, did anyone else catch this slip from Key? He says that as far as he can tell, the only difference between the new limos and the three year old ones they are replacing is a darker interior. But, the new limos aren’t here yet. The only time the new limos have been here was in April last year for testing. Key is admitting he rode in one back then and knew it was new.

Also, on the subject of the Gillard visit, the timing meant that Key suddenly had to pull out of going down to Erebus with families of the crash victims. Radio New Zealand reported that this allowed 104 family members, rather than the 80 that were originally allowed to go into the ballot, to be on the flight down. That’s right, Key was going to take 24 people, nearly a quarter the plane. No doubt it would have included a healthy contingent of media for photo ops.

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  1. Inventory2 1
    21 February 2011 at 11:42 am

    Who’s playing “sickening” politics Eddie? This is pretty low, even for you guys…

    • Blighty 1.1
      21 February 2011 at 11:47 am

      pretty low is blaming a soldier dying in Afghanistan for your inabiltiy to spin your way out of trouble in New Zealand.

      Honestly, Inventory 2, do you accept Key’s explanation for the limo affair? Do you believe it was all Mila’s fault for dying and, thereby, somehow tying up the entire machinary of government?

    • Colonial Viper 1.2
      21 February 2011 at 12:39 pm

      I2, I thought you’d seen through Key’s PR tactics by now.

    • Draco T Bastard 1.3
      21 February 2011 at 12:46 pm

      John Key, National and Crosby/Textor are Inv2, I would have thought that would have been obvious even to you but I suppose you just have to play the part of an apologist for your heroes even when their total lack of a moral compass is displayed for the world to see.

    • gobsmacked 1.4
      21 February 2011 at 12:51 pm

      Inventory2, try this simple test:

      Prime Minister Helen Clark says that the Labour government “wasn’t helped by the death of Private Mila”.

      Cue an onslaught of outrage on your blog, on Kiwiblog, on talkback, on the National oppositon benches.

      It’s an incredibly stupid, insensitive thing for Key to say. And you know it.

    • lprent 1.5
      21 February 2011 at 1:35 pm

      I2: Key said that the reason that they failed to deal with the controversy was that they were distracted by the important business of government.

      I can distinctly remember you hysterically inflating on similar ‘trivialities’ in the last government (paintings, corn, driving, election expenses, and damn near every other bit of political dog-whistle) while stressing that these were as important as the actual business of government.

      What is sickening is your pompous pontificating pious arrogance in treating the current government with a different standard just because you’re too spineless to examine your own sickening hypocrisy.

    • Roger 1.6
      21 February 2011 at 1:43 pm

      Being appalled about the Prime Minister using the death of a soldier as a ridiculous excuse is sickening and low? What a muppet.

    • john 1.7
      21 February 2011 at 3:14 pm

      inventory
      keys a wanker and so are you
      not much of a government if it only do one thing at a time

  2. tc 2
    21 February 2011 at 11:57 am

    I’m just loving all Sideshow John’s adoring sycophants finding ways to justify his latest bursts of honesty slipping out amongst the Photo opp’s, to me it shows these leemings will follow him all the way over the economic cliff and take us with them.

    Meantime Johnny will be tucked up away from politics enjoying how much his ‘blind’ porfolio grew during his box ticking time as that PM thingy, gosh who would’ve though eh. It all ended up being so much harder than Douglas Graham and all those other cronies said it would be.

  3. Daveo 3
    21 February 2011 at 11:58 am

    What a creep Key is.

  4. Anne 4
    21 February 2011 at 12:02 pm

    John Key said:
    “The Government did not handle the limousine controversy well because it was preoccupied by the death of a New Zealand soldier in Afghanistan”.

    So he personally went to the the family of the deceased soldier and broke the news to them?
    He personally organised the return of the body to NZ?
    He personally climbed up on the roof of the Beehive and pulled down the flag to half mast?
    He personally organised the funeral arrangements with the help of the Defence Force?

    No he did not. He did nothing. He didn’t have to. So Eddie is right. To blame the poor handling of the limo affair (read Key: “I lied actually”) on a dead soldier is indeed sickening.

    • stever 4.1
      21 February 2011 at 12:09 pm

      He didn’t even spend the time that other party leaders did in learning his speech in the House for this (or speaking from the heart). He read every word from a sheet of paper, with all the grace of a man who’d never seen any of it before.

  5. Kevin Welsh 5
    21 February 2011 at 12:52 pm

    So, how come it has taken til now for him to admit this?

    • Marty G 5.1
      21 February 2011 at 1:15 pm

      Exactly. It took them until now to think of it.

    • Draco T Bastard 5.2
      21 February 2011 at 1:49 pm

      Had to pass it through the PR people who had to do some focus group testing to see what type of excuse would go down better and then the PR people had to determine which non-event to tie the excuse to.

  6. Treetop 6
    21 February 2011 at 1:01 pm

    Hang your head in shame Mr Key for using a soldiers death to your advantage. Your excuse is no better than what has come out of the mouth of top cops paid big bucks to do their job at PNHQ.

    You (Key) are failing the most vulnerable group in society (children) just as PNHQ failed to protect very vulnerable children. Nothing is going to convince me how out of touch PNHQ still are about what the effects of sexual violation/rape has on a child. Your police minister needs a reality check if she thinks that it is a HR employment matter that officers left children in a very unsafe environment. The cowardly officers need to face a court of law just as dewar did for failing to investigate. I am shocked that Mc Hattie was not interviewed by the IPCA.

    I know that I am off the thread topic, I get so angry about anyone who misuses their authority by scape goating those who are blameless for being harmed. E.g the soldier, Erebus families and defenceless children.

    • Colonial Viper 6.1
      21 February 2011 at 1:08 pm

      “Key admits low ability National Ministers incapable of running NZ and military operations simultaneously”

  7. Alistair 7
    21 February 2011 at 1:18 pm

    I cannot believe that our leader would do this, distract and look for sympathy. Sadly, I can only assume that he does not understand what he has just done!

    • Colonial Viper 7.1
      21 February 2011 at 1:21 pm

      Classic sociopathic error. Errs in judgement over what he thinks others would find acceptable, and when he acts it out it comes across as very strange and inappropriate. Which it is because its actually sociopathic.

      • bobo 7.1.1
        21 February 2011 at 2:01 pm

        John Key and Mark Hotchin would get on just fine, maybe they get their PR advice from the same guy? Epic fail from Key on this one, scapegoating a dead kiwi soldier to divert attention.. hope this comes back to haunt the c$$t.

  8. mickysavage 8
    21 February 2011 at 1:50 pm

    This is sickening but it is also patently untrue. The decision to buy the BMWs has been around for months. According to TVOne Key even had a drive in one.

    The only possible thing he could blame the death of Kirifi Mila for is that it put him off applying sufficient spin to the BMW purchase saga.

    Please, please MSM ask a couple of pertinent questions about this.

    • Craig Glen Eden 8.1
      21 February 2011 at 3:19 pm

      Key is such a smuck. I cant honestly think of a previous prime minster either Labour or National that would/could do this. Could anyone imagine Lange or Bolger or Shipley doing this, seriously Rob Muldoon stone drunk wouldn’t have even said this.

      Key has all the class of a vacuum cleaner salesman! I feel ashamed as a Kiwi.

      • O2B 8.1.1
        21 February 2011 at 6:08 pm

        That’s not very complimentary toward vacuum cleaner salesmen. What did they ever do to you?

        • Craig Glen Eden 8.1.1.1
          21 February 2011 at 8:00 pm

          Vacuum cleaner salesman have done nothing to me because I wouldn’t be stupid enough to buy anything from them.

      • Roflcopter 8.1.2
        21 February 2011 at 7:32 pm

        “I didn’t notice how fast we were going” – Helen Clark hanging the driver out to dry.

        • Colonial Viper 8.1.2.1
          21 February 2011 at 7:35 pm

          Hey did that driver happen to be a dead NZ veteran who had served his country in Afghanistan? No?

          Then its not really comparable to the bottom of the barrel low that Key has sunk to then is it, ROFL?

  9. kultur 9
    21 February 2011 at 3:30 pm

    Key is what Key is – an opportunistic trader in meaningless pieces of paper and data – that create wealth by producing nothing of any value. He is doing the same thing here – only thing is he is playing with real people now and not numbers and options and possibilities (he was before too – but he was too self absorbed to know it at the time) …

    What are we doing in Afghanistan anyway – the middle east seems to be very willing to sort its own shit out very nicely thanks very much. None of it seems to be islamic extremism – mostly if not all, is purely a search for freedom and democracy.

    The Emporer is in the nick – not a thread of clothing on as he minces down catwalks and glibly dismisses anyone who doesnt earn above the average income – or anyone who has anything valuable to offer. The left needs to say and say and say again … “but he doesnt have any clothes on…” Even the pollsters will eventually get it right.

    Johnny boy is under extreme pressure – when he cracks its going to be very public – and very noticeable to anyone no matter how enamoured they may have been by his persona previously.

    He’s starting to falter – and like any frightened prey animal sick and weak at the back of the herd – its this particular international financial predators turn to feel what his previous prey used to feel – the wolves are circling Johnny boy – and they will have no mercy on you. Neither should they you unscrupulous conniving piece of shit scraped off someones shoe – time for that wet slimy smile to be wiped off your pampered soft skinned face you ingrate and enemy of the people. I hope a giant pterodactyl flies over your new BMW and takes a massive smelly shit right on it (when your window is open).

    God i do feel better after getting that out of my system ….

  10. Draco T Bastard 10
    21 February 2011 at 4:11 pm

    Seems that the opposition MPs are onto this one. Just wish that they’d get onto the rest of the BS coming out of National and Act just as fast.

  11. bobo 11
    21 February 2011 at 4:39 pm

    Key is new zealands very own slightly dull version of belursconi, dodgy, rich, and self absorbed hopefully they both are history later this year..

    • Maggie 11.1
      21 February 2011 at 5:13 pm

      Of course JK can’t multi task. He’s a man after all.

      • Colonial Viper 11.1.1
        21 February 2011 at 5:54 pm

        The man can’t run a military op, a country and a bath at the same time? Even with a department as large as his? Useless.

    • O2B 11.2
      21 February 2011 at 6:17 pm

      Maybe he will buy the Wellington Phoenix too and help out Tel with his tax bill?

      • joe90 11.2.1
        21 February 2011 at 8:28 pm

        Of course JK can’t multi task. He’s a man after all.

        Oi!. I’m a bloke and I’m following a couple of blogs, watching Tactix v Fever, got half an eye on the spuds and I’ve nearly finished todays dompost two speed and whatever the SO is talking about has gone in one ear and out the other.
        See, I can multi task…sort of.

  12. gobsmacked 12
    21 February 2011 at 4:52 pm

    They lied in the morning, they lied in the evening …

    http://tvnz.co.nz/politics-news/pm-adviser-knew-bmws-months-ago-4036878

    So Key’s last defence is … the Prime Minister doesn’t have responsibility for the Prime Minister’s chief of staff.

  13. Craig Glen Eden 13
    21 February 2011 at 5:24 pm

    Mr Sloppy Strikes again! So your sloppy and just made the shit up about being busy with the death of the Kiwi soldier. Oh ok then, nah sweet bro yeah lets move on then to the next photo op.

    What the hell!

  14. Treetop 14
    21 February 2011 at 5:51 pm

    Key has really turned into a hypocrite. He had a line similar to not wanting to waste time on historical matters as they divert his attention away from the important day to day matters. The BMW issue is now an historical one and he is unable to divert himself away from it beacause it had caught up with him being a day to day matter.

    Talk about falling over yourself.

  15. bobo 15
    21 February 2011 at 6:29 pm

    Watched the clip of key denying any knowledge of limos on one news, look at Key sweat while nervously reading an explanation, I’m sure his nose is growing. If any documents or emails from Key referring to the limo deal come to light is he a gonna? Will any msm reporters challenge key on this that he is lying or will he get yet another free get out of jail free card.. where is the mole???

  16. dad4justice 16
    21 February 2011 at 6:52 pm

    John No Balls Key is a good liar, Aunty Helen trained him well, press him in the middle and out goes the bullshit. No wonder SANE people detest pollie scumbags! The witch created a lying Key.

    • O2B 16.1
      21 February 2011 at 6:58 pm

      Give us an example of Aunty Helen lying.

      • dad4justice 16.1.1
        21 February 2011 at 7:13 pm

        Two words – Peter Davis.

        • O2B 16.1.1.1
          21 February 2011 at 7:26 pm

          I didn’t ask for two words. I asked for an example of Aunty Helen lying.

        • lprent 16.1.1.2
          21 February 2011 at 7:59 pm

          Peter: You’re talking about a long term friend of mine. Would you like to expand on that so I can ban you again. You’re here on sufferance at the best of times, and making dog whistle unsustantiated insinuations about my friends (or anyone else for that matter) is a very fast way to exhaust my tolerance.

        • neoleftie 16.1.1.3
          21 February 2011 at 8:28 pm

          so helen clark lied for 5 years before she married him…lovely uninformed opinion based on what glib gossip over the years…Quite frankly if it was a lie then the MSM would have proof by now

          • lprent 16.1.1.3.1
            21 February 2011 at 8:46 pm

            Yeah I was around when that myth was made up by one of my old teachers campaign team in 1981. It was invented as a nasty wee slur to try and get Moyle a chance as the national candidate in that election. Didn’t help much. But has been around the threatened bigot fringe ever since.

            No one who has ever heard Helen and Peter arguing about what music should be playing loudly in the house would ever believe it. Both of them have lousy taste. Opera and jazz….. Urgghh. Personally I like the blues.

    • The Voice of Reason 16.2
      21 February 2011 at 6:58 pm

      Er, no, he’s a very bad liar, Dad. He gives himself away every time with his body posture, his nervousness and above all, his dying fish eyes. Of course, he’s even worse when he accidentally tells the truth, for example telling Penny Bright that he was sorry he wasn’t making money out of Kiwis’ indebtedness.

      • Ms M 16.2.1
        21 February 2011 at 8:12 pm

        “and above all, his dying fish eyes”

        hahahaha ain’t that the truth. Someone needs to make a video of those dying lying fish eyes.

  17. dad4justice 17
    21 February 2011 at 7:12 pm

    [DPF: Off topic 10 demerits]

    haha Aunty Helen told John this….. boom boom went the Beamers.haha what fuckwits.

  18. Jum 18
    21 February 2011 at 8:33 pm

    Inventory 2 seems to have disappeared off this thread. Even the rightwing can’t put a spin on this.

  19. john 19
    21 February 2011 at 9:09 pm

    So you want to blame Helen for key lying?
    and d4j your a nut no wonder your wife left you
    i wouldnt let you near my kids either

    • dad4justice 19.1
      21 February 2011 at 9:19 pm

      I live with my four children and lovely female partner you freak. Are you [deleted] ( big bruv on kiwiblog) the [deleted] who can’t stop giving me shit? Fuck you are a cowardly creep!
      Get a life [deleted] or front up matey!@! Ask dime what’s soon to happen.

      [lprent: don’t ]

      • dad4justice 19.1.1
        21 February 2011 at 9:31 pm

        Fuuny how big bruv attacks me here Lyn. Really quite sickening.

        • lprent 19.1.1.1
          21 February 2011 at 10:03 pm

          It isn’t bruv. Not unless he has been jumping round the country a lot and has a special account with a different ip block in another area for impersonating a bit of a lefty. I guess someone else doesn’t like you. Who’d have thought that could happen?

          You’re the only person I know of with multitudes of net access points. It took me a while to close them off the first time you got banned.

      • kultur 19.1.2
        21 February 2011 at 10:09 pm

        I think that this ‘blogging’ experience causes many of us to step outside the normal boundaries of communication. The virtual experience is not real in the accepted sense – and i think leads to less than satisfactory experiences of person to person communication.

        Now i think i understand what is meant by the term “flamewars” …. mate who cares about Helen Clark or what she did or didnt do – and frankly … who cares about rumours or counter rumours. Churchill liked whisky and champagne – and probably made decisions about WW2 after a couple – Alexander the Great was Bisexual (or so they tell us) – Julius Caesar liked to pluck all the hairs off his body – Napoleon had a complex named after him – Martin Luther King got caught in flagrante delicto – and JFK was a very naughty boy with actresses and anything with a skirt …

        Right and wrong – it all comes down to does it – or is it – actively hurting someone else. If its a current politician and they are doing things in the public eye its fair game – but i think the unwritten rule is – dont touch the wife or the husband – or the kids. If we have had injustice perpetrated against ourselves – then it should make us sensitive to injustice against others.

        God knows all of us on these blogs – make some terrible judgement calls with opinions and ill considered statements.

        • lprent 19.1.2.1
          21 February 2011 at 10:55 pm

          Yep. I merely try to keep a lid on it so people are cautious with their comments and the site remains readable. Frequently by the tactic of being even more of an hardarse than those I am constraining by reflecting their own techniques back at them. Often by dealing in quite personal insults and limiting others use of abuse to making them state a point to it. Always protecting the identity of participants (the furtherist I will go is to say occasionally that someone has a mistaken an identity as above).

          I also have the tools to effectively evict people when I choose to use to use them. But being an obnoxious sysop dealing with lusers is often more effective. Look up the myth of the bastard from hell on wikipedia sometime for the operating guidelines for the role.

          Generally asserting ownership rights on our site. It works pretty well. The growth rate in this site is has been immense over the last 3 years, both because of the post content, and because it is a pretty safe area to argue robustly with the many moderators and a sysop with a well used hammer. That allows for a range of comments from the insightful to the spiteful.

  20. ianmac 20
    21 February 2011 at 11:24 pm

    I wonder if now John Key will express admiration for the Labour car deal especially as it seems that now you can sell the 3 year old cars and get new ones for little extra cost. Wow!

  21. john 21
    22 February 2011 at 10:08 am

    dad4justice
    my name is john and i live in halfmoon bay
    i am very happy to front up matey as you say
    but i just want to point out i am a ex commercial fisherman and my arms are very big
    please bring ya mate whale shite wit you and we can have a nice cup of tea.

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