Beached as bro

Written By: - Date published: 11:59 am, March 30th, 2012 - 57 comments
Categories: Judith Collins, national - Tags: , , , ,

Within minutes of Simon Lusk’s name being linked to the leaking of the Boag email, a message came through on the tip line – Slater is going feral over Lusk’s name being mentioned. And well he might, Lusk is Cameron Slater’s meal ticket. After a stunned silence on Whaleoil for a few hours – Slater/Lusk were back with all the dirt they could sling.

Trevor Mallard was Slater/Lusk’s primary target (I’m using the names conjointly because they both use the Whaleoil pseudonym and who can be bothered sorting one from the other). I’m sure that having the same old material thrown at him again isn’t going to worry Mallard in the slightest. Slater even appeared on TV in sunglasses (to hide bloodshot eyes maybe?) to accuse Labour of being the ‘nasty’ party (oh the irony). Well, I’m pretty sure it feels nasty to have his little empire crumbling around him.

The lashing out at Boag continued as well. Slater/Lusk know they are in a civil war, and they know that unless they pull out all the stops, they’re sure to be on the losing side. It’s a sharp contrast to Farrar, who is obviously completely out of the loop on this fight and has taken a bland pro-National line. For Slater, there’s the personal element that Boag rolled his dad as party president – in a party that is all about elitism and personal power, that’s a scar that doesn’t fade.

Of course, all the ferocity of Slater/Lusk’s response since Lusk was named tells you that a nerve has been hit.

Wiser heads, like Farrar, will be counselling to bring the fight back behind closed doors. But Collins would have to make some kind of admission of fault over the leaks for that to happen though. And Slater just isn’t going to listen. Civil war holds no fears for him – he’s been smearing potential National candidates for a fee with Lusk for a while now. But that makes him a huge liability to the rest of the party. The question now is, what can they do about it?

[Note: If you’re wondering about the basis for saying Slater/Lusk are paid to run campaigns for National party nominations, which frequently involve smearing other National nominees, check out this from Whaleoil:

Some boneheads in the Auckland region hierarchy have been putting about that candidates should not pay for advice or pay for strategy. They are as prissy and as puritanical as the old amateur era rugby people and need to stop this silliness. Laughably the main proponents of this argument are people who earn a living by charging for their services themselves.

If you want to be a National candidate there is a very small group of talented, experienced professionals who will greatly enhance your chances of winning. Yes they will cost, but who else won’t you pay – your lawyer, your accountant, your printer, your speech coach, the petrol station for the gas to get to delegate meetings? Professional advice costs money all over town, why not in politics?

What I can’t understand is why paying for someone who gives you the best chance of a long career in politics is wrong or unethical or whatever else the buggers muddle in Auckland seem to think is reason for not engaging professionals. Aspiring candidates should call the tip line if they want introductions to competent political advisors.

Blog readers are well aware of my views on people who behave unethically, and the best way to out them is to publish information. I realise pride is a sin, but I’m feeling just a little bit proud that I have contributed so meaningfully to the selection of a really good candidate and future National MP. I am also proud that National know that they cannot cover up skullduggery in the party. The tipline callers are many and varied and the truth will out.

– and if that was written by Slater, I’ll eat my hat]

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  1. mickysavage 1
    30 March 2012 at 12:17 pm

    Aye it is delicious that Slater/Lusk should be at the centre of the maelstrom that is the National Party melt down we are witnessing.
     
    And it is clear that there are elements of the National Party that disapprove of their behaviour and are trying to rid the party of them.
     
    He should change the name of his blog.  Whaleluskoil?

    • ghostwhowalksnz 1.1
      30 March 2012 at 12:37 pm

      Lets keep it as the Oily Orca and the Waipawa Weasel.

      • King Kong 1.1.1
        30 March 2012 at 1:02 pm

        You may enjoy taunting Cameron but I can’t see this ending well.

        Saying he alone doesn’t write his blog will send him apoplectic and being fair, the one thing he seems to do quite well is vendettas if only because he is the kind of lunatic who doesn’t mind setting fire to himself to burn you.

        [lprent: He has been trying that since 2007. Doesn’t seem to have worked.
        What is your point? That he is a wee bit obsessional? ]

        • King Kong 1.1.1.1
          30 March 2012 at 1:14 pm

          Absolutely. He is as mad as a toaster and whilst the Standard might not of been on his Christmas card list, sometimes all that is needed is that extra bit of motivation to take the game to ridiculous new levels.

          I am just speculating that the needling of the last couple of days might just tip him off the edge.

          • lprent 1.1.1.1.1
            30 March 2012 at 1:36 pm

            Yeah, Irish was lamenting the other day that he couldn’t see how it’d be possible to make so many organisations look a bit crazy without having Whale around to ‘support’ them.

            Perhaps we should start a Whale conservation society for the purpose of conserving the ideal “supporter” – one who tarnishes those he supports.

          • mickysavage 1.1.1.1.2
            30 March 2012 at 1:51 pm

            The problem is KK that the needling would not be possible without the assistance of some within the National Party.  It is not a very happy place.  Some do not appear to approve of what Cameron and Lusk are doing.
             
            /smirk
             

          • NickS 1.1.1.1.3
            30 March 2012 at 2:58 pm

            I am just speculating that the needling of the last couple of days might just tip him off the edge.

            Nah, it’d probably take a longterm campaign of Anonymous/4Chan, /b/tard level harassment, and while Slater may be a nice vein of potential lulz, he’s small fish really compared to the myriad of US based targets with far higher levels of stupidity and their communities that can be whipped into a beautiful froth of idiocy.

            Besides, if Slater was that unstable he’d be another sad NZ depression statistic by now, as from recent personal experience there’s triggers aplenty :/

            He could do with a mental health vacation though, say somewhere without internet and plenty of exposure to the sun…

  2. vto 2
    30 March 2012 at 12:40 pm

    Yes well it should be the entire National Party which beaches itself over this…

    This saga involving the use of public office and power for private gain has the rancid stench of a form of corruption.

    This is the exact smell which people in Canterbury got a whiff of over the sacking of Ecan. It seemed a very obvious link to connect the National Party’s support base and Ministers such as Carter and Smith and Creech with their private involvement in the dairy and wider agriculture sectors to the sacking of the regional council in order to get the river water for irrigation. It was as clear as a bell.

    And how has Simon Power’s public office holding been tied in with his new private sector work?

    The above are just two examples. How many more could be found via the likes of Shipley?

    Where else does this linkage occur and how common is it?

    Perhaps the corruption that many have long suspected of the National Party has finally blown apart for all to see.

    • shreddakj 2.1
      30 March 2012 at 12:45 pm

      Are we destined to see another National Party coup resulting in a lost election and then a subsequent resignation and then another election loss at an even lower result than English achieved in ’02?

      • McFlock 2.1.1
        30 March 2012 at 2:36 pm

        Or even a party schism, with a few electorate mps moving off to join the conservatives? Dare I hope for so much?

  3. Lanthanide 3
    30 March 2012 at 12:44 pm

    Be good if the long excerpt from Whale was formatted as a block quote

    Like this.

    [lprent: did that ]

  4. captain hook 4
    30 March 2012 at 12:47 pm

    I thought slater had god on his side.
    He gets a free ride on Radio rhema so maybe they can jack up a mircale?

    • tc 4.1
      30 March 2012 at 12:52 pm

      Rhema is my god is better than your god stuff and about as tolerant as the NACT for alternative beliefs.

      • Vicky32 4.1.1
        30 March 2012 at 9:14 pm

        Rhema is my god is better than your god stuff and about as tolerant as the NACT for alternative beliefs.

        Sorry, that just comes under the ‘it is to laugh category”! Seriously, what do you expect it to be like? Your comment is somewhat like expecting the National Bank to have adverts praising Kiwibank…* what do you think Rhema is for? 
        (* Or to use an aanology that would probably mean more to you, “ASH  is our cigarettes are more evil than your alcohol  stuff and about as tolerant as the NACT for smoking”.)

    • Rodel 4.2
      30 March 2012 at 6:51 pm

      I just found out that Radio rhema is a good friend of Mr Slater. I normally take little notice of and am disinterested in Rhema but their support of him is disgustingly bizzare.Surely they don’t think their god would approve of his sleaze and his abuse of the state that supports his nefarious activities? Rhema you just plummeted in my estimation from zero to minus a lot.

    • fender 4.3
      30 March 2012 at 8:29 pm

      Thats just bizarre, how could a religious station want anything to do with someone like that. Didn’t they do their homework, and didn’t they also sense the presence of evil one can’t help but experience when confronted with such vile nastiness. This is a bad move for Rhema to make, maybe they think their listeners read nothing but the holy book. Surely they have heard of him before and would know there’s nothing going on in Whaleslob land that has any compatability with religious values.

      • rosy 4.3.1
        30 March 2012 at 8:39 pm

        It works if you see them as part of the Rick Santorum school of mixing religion and politics. e.g.:

        “Earlier in my political career, I had the opportunity to read the speech, and I almost threw up.” –Rick Santorum, on JFK’s 1960 speech about the importance of separation of church and state (October 2011)

      • Rosemary 4.3.2
        30 March 2012 at 9:00 pm

        What about the hypocrisy in Slater posting those “daily proverbs”? Unbelievable.

      • Vicky32 4.3.3
        30 March 2012 at 9:21 pm

        This is a bad move for Rhema to make, maybe they think their listeners read nothing but the holy book.

        You may hate them, I don’t listen to them and never have, but you ought to realise they’re not morons.
        They probably are, however, conservative and somewhat gullible.

        • fender 4.3.3.1
          30 March 2012 at 10:38 pm

          Vicky32,
          Certainly wasn’t suggesting listeners of Rhema were morons. There must be a moron within the radio station though, sanctioning the input from vigilantes or enemies of the working people is not a good move.
          And no I don’t hate them either, no suggestion of that in my post.
          I don’t listen to the station at all but many years ago a colleague did and so I was familiar with the format, and so it surprises me that they would now welcome input from slaters or cockroaches.
          However if the station believes its listeners are too busy to read anything but the holy book they may think listeners are unaware of the toxic hazard they are being exposed to.

          • Vicky32 4.3.3.1.1
            30 March 2012 at 10:48 pm

            I don’t listen to the station at all but many years ago a colleague did and so I was familiar with the format, and so it surprises me that they would now welcome input from slaters or cockroaches.

            I see your point… I had to listen to Rhema, on a long car journey once, and it’s absolutely not to my taste! Maybe I’ve been judging it by LifeFM, which I used to listen to (even though people who knew me thought I’d listen to Rhema cause I am old .. 😀 ) LifeFM did assume its listeners were aware of others things, although it also assumed they were arch-conservatives which is why I never listen to it any more.

    • NickS 4.4
      30 March 2012 at 8:48 pm

      Heh, well theocrats do love authoritarian douchebags that align with with them on conservative bullshit, and given the failure of Christian political parties in NZ to gain any longterm traction they have to fall back on the National Party and it’s rural politicians, who oft use religious support as a base. So it’s not so surprising they shill for Slater, given the lack of alternatives and the teh low impact of right-wing Christian bloggers in NZ.

      As for the whole “but god…!” thing, this evil Atheist finds the above posters lack of understanding of the “flexibility” of biblical interpretations most amusing…

      • Vicky32 4.4.1
        30 March 2012 at 9:30 pm

        right-wing Christian bloggers in New Zealand

        I can only conclude that you have (possibly wilfully) ignored the very existence of left wing Christian bloggers, at least one of whom used to comment here on the Standard…

        • NickS 4.4.1.1
          30 March 2012 at 9:44 pm

          I know all to well they exist, but Rhema’s conservative outlook made mentioning them a mute point, so suggesting I ignored them is a bit stupid on your part.

          • Vicky32 4.4.1.1.1
            30 March 2012 at 10:02 pm

            mentioning them a mute point,

            I swore I wasn’t going to go grammar nazi on anyone’s donkey again, but I can’t resist – “mute point”, oh it’s hilarious! Almost as good as Joey Tribbiani in Friends, saying “it’s a moo point, like a cow’s opinion, it doesn’t matter”… 😀

            • ropata 4.4.1.1.1.1
              30 March 2012 at 10:27 pm

              Regrettably right wing “Christian” mouthpieces like Slater (wishart, mcroskrie) continue to enjoy a great deal of influence … far outweighing the merit of anything they say

              NIckS is right that Rhema is a right wing outlet and their broadcasts are generally devoid of anything that might get christians to actually stop and think for a change. Mostly it exists to make conservative fundies feel good about themselves and reinforce the gilded cage they live in

              • Vicky32 …
                30 March 2012 at 10:42 pm

                NIckS is right that Rhema is a right wing outlet and their broadcasts are generally devoid of anything that might get christians to actually stop and think for a change. Mostly it exists to make conservative fundies feel good about themselves and reinforce the gilded cage they live in

                True that, which is why I have never listened to it, and I stopped listening to LifeFM, which is their sister station…

  5. bad12 5
    30 March 2012 at 1:39 pm

    Would like to comment broadly and in detail here but alas we are all way to busy formulating believable stuff we can insinuate into that one,s wee pea via the tip-line to spur Him on to keep on fighting the good fight,(snigger)…

  6. just saying 6
    30 March 2012 at 1:54 pm

    Sounds like the Whaleoils and Sarah Ferguson share an intellectual, business, and ethical lineage.

    Haven’t got a tip myself, but where exactly is the ‘tipline’ button on this site? NZ being a very small place with few degrees of separation and all that…

    • Blighty 6.1
      30 March 2012 at 2:47 pm

      they’re just referring to their email address I think. Slater likes to talk about his ‘tipline’ and they’re mocking him for it.

  7. Johnny 7
    30 March 2012 at 4:07 pm

    So what you are saying is that some of this Mr Whaleoil’s posts are actually scam ones by someone else. Not the first time his lot have been accused of as much. Where is honour and integrity these days?

    http://scambusters.co.nz/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=6082

    • the sprout 7.1
      30 March 2012 at 4:23 pm

      good find, johnny

      • Eddie 7.1.1
        30 March 2012 at 10:52 pm

        Check out Juana’s shareholdings on the company’s website, they tie in with Slater’s and someone called Harold Honnor who seems to have fingers in a lot of pies.

        Juana owns 70% of Frog Rock Management, which used to be part owned by Slater too. Frog Rock owns, along with a company called Prescott Corner (owned by Honnor) a company called Te Aronga Maru, which has owned a string of security companies, the latest being Botany Security – Honnor is the director and Slater was formerly a director.

        Slater used to own a company – Ironbark Corporation – with Frog Rock and, if I’ve got the story right, that was a security company that went belly up, which is when he got depression, which is how he got on 6 figure a year income insurance (what is it with these righties and their massive insurance payouts?). The insurance company seems to have cancelled the payments when he started appearing regularly in the media, showing he was fit for work in their mind. he ran a series of posts angrily denouncing and threatening to sue that didn’t seem to amount to anything in the end.

        he went on the benefit – but, the emails go, he has done repossession work for the security company that is ultimately part owned by his wife. He’s since mentioned having an office at a workplace with lots of burly men, presumably said repo outfit – Botany Security.

        I wonder who Harold Honnor is? He owns a lot of companies with odd names “search engine optimisation 4321 company ltd, vehicle importing company ltd, social media consultants ltd”.

        There are more personal stories about Slater as well but it’s more his style than ours to run that kind of thing.

        I hope Slater pays tax on the payments he and Lusk get for services rendered. He’s not currently registered as owning any company, so presumably, he’s registered with IRD as self-employed and pays tax on all these cash jobs. I don’t think he’s still getting the benefit. I’m sure he would be careful to keep everything above board.

    • deuto 7.2
      30 March 2012 at 5:04 pm

      Also thanks for that link – the infamous “Spanish wife”!

      Funnily enough some time ago I came across her sales of murals on Trade Me by accident – also found them tacky but the wording of the ads did not inspire me to go any further.

  8. the sprout 8
    30 March 2012 at 4:17 pm

    That sales pitch for Lusk’s services was far too fluent to have been written by Slater

  9. bad12 9
    30 March 2012 at 4:51 pm

    The rumor that His knuckles actually scrape pavement when He walks is totally unfounded,(theres at least a couple of centimeters clearance),

    Who,us lot ”mock” Cameron???nah never…

  10. Te Reo Putake 10
    30 March 2012 at 5:01 pm

    Gotta feel sorry for Cam. It looks like the POAL ATM won’t accept his card any more and he has now launched into a abusive attack on the board. He also has a try at maths, but fails miserably.

    • mickysavage 10.1
      30 March 2012 at 5:08 pm

      If he was to spin any more he could be harnassed as a renewable source of energy and power most of the North Island.

      • Pascal's bookie 10.1.1
        30 March 2012 at 5:14 pm

        They’re still maintaining in comments that POALs legal strategy was fine. Everything was done by the book. It’s just a flesh wound.

        • Te Reo Putake 10.1.1.1
          30 March 2012 at 5:31 pm

          Yep! My favourite is the numb nuts suggesting that the union members be followed around by 6ft 10″, 200 pound security guards in case they resort to thuggery. The irony must just fly by these half wits.
           
          Still, can’t be a happy day for the scabs, eh? I wonder how the poor sap in the company video who said ‘bring it on’ is feeling now? All those promises, all those aspirations of a brighter future as a faithful capo in the new regime that Pearson and Slater promised them have turned to dust.

        • Tc 10.1.1.2
          30 March 2012 at 6:54 pm

          Yup the hollowmen play book isn’t known for its adherence to the law of the land…..methinks some more under urgency fixes on the way .

  11. mickysavage 11
    30 March 2012 at 5:19 pm

    Michelle Boag just made a statement where she said that “there may well be people in National who have decided to leak material, although she can’t see why they would do that – unless they were seriously unhinged“.

    I wonder  who she was referring to?

    • the sprout 11.1
      30 March 2012 at 5:23 pm

      😆 unhinged and about to be rendered for lubricant 

      • Pascal's bookie 11.1.1
        30 March 2012 at 5:32 pm

        Yeah, but she was also talking about someone who has access to ACC data to *give* to Slater.

        Slater isn’t leaking anything, he’s just a useful tool.

    • deuto 11.2
      30 March 2012 at 8:04 pm

      Laughed at her “unhinged” remark – but my overall impression of the interview was not so much what she said, but that some hard talking has gone on behind the scenes (Key at the Michael Hill tournament where they both supposedly were today?) and she was in damage control.

  12. Tiger Mountain 12
    30 March 2012 at 5:36 pm

    That “king ’O sleaze’ Slater gets even double edged sympathy at times from some commenters here shows that empathy is more often a left quality. Most humans have a duality of character to some degree, but why indulge ‘whale’, he rides the mental health angle like a jockey.

    His ‘junior Stasi’ tipsters and curtain twitching underwear sniffers are simply reprehensible. He has lied about and slandered honest working people at the Auckland wharves to serve his masters. Put the slipper in.

    • Tc 12.1
      30 March 2012 at 6:59 pm

      +1 about time the left showed some ruthlessness and did cam a favour, maybe time for a change of career as they may just have expired your usefulness.

    • Vicky32 12.2
      30 March 2012 at 9:38 pm

      … shows that empathy is more often a left quality.

      Lolwut? 😀 😀 😀

  13. randal 13
    30 March 2012 at 7:17 pm

    creatures like slater only have a limited shelf life.
    their masters get tired of them and then POOF!…they’re gone.
    just like that.
    think haldemann and erlichman.

  14. deuto 14
    31 March 2012 at 12:11 pm

    WO is busy on his blog this morning – perhaps he and Lusk cancelled a hunting trip.

    Won’t provide links but some of his posts this am include various Pullar emails to him over the years on insurance claims including his, problems she was experiencing with Vodaphone seeking his support etc.

    But will quote a little gem from one of his posts:

    We learned this week that Bronwyn Pullar and Michelle Boag are accomplished at stand-over tactics.

    They were successful with Sovereign Insurance and that was detailed first on this blog and then later by Close Up. They got busted when they tried their stand-over and blackmail on ACC, but unfortunately they cost Nick Smith his job.

    But they have also played the double team over smaller issues and in other areas

    Then goes on to the email re Vodaphone.
    Bold in the quote is mine.

    Woops – bold was supposed to end at the full stop. Won’t try to correct as still learning this blockquote and bold formatting.

    [lprent: fixed ]

    • felix 14.1
      31 March 2012 at 12:53 pm

      re- formatting: Looks like you’re having trouble closing your tags.

      The tag at the end of the section you want to format needs a “/” immediately after the “<"

      • deuto 14.1.1
        31 March 2012 at 1:13 pm

        Thanks – now see that in the printout of the FAQ I did yesterday. Learning slowly!

        The bit in the WO quote I found interesting and tried to bold was “that was detailed first on this blog and then later by Close Up. ” In other words, is WO claiming to have had/known about the Sovereign letter before it came to light on Close Up. If so ……………….

        • kermit 14.1.1.1
          1 April 2012 at 5:57 pm

          Its interesting how much correspondence WO apparently had with Ms Pullar.

          “I didn’t run a story about Bronwyn Pullar’s customer service issues. But knowing that Pullar had sent all this to her stand-over expert Michelle and how she operates I gave the Vodafone PR guy a little heads up about it. He told me that she had been driving them all nuts and now he knew what she meant when she said it was going to get nasty for them.

          When I advised Bronwyn that I had told the Vodafone PR bloke about it she replied:

          I hold [sic] you told them I was a mental bitch, with a head injury who doesn’t cope with any form of stress, and has a tendency to get very violent when angry. Just a shame I haven’t got a gun or I’d be down at Fanshaw [sic] street demanding service!”

          1. Why did Bronwyn Pullar copy WO into her emails to Boag?
          2. Why did WO ring Vodafone PR about Bronwyn Pullar’s internet problems back in 2009?
          3. Why was Bronwyn Pullar so enthusiastic in telling WO to inform Vodafone that she was a “mental bitch”?
          4. Did WO sort out Bronwyn Pullar’s internet problems with Vodafone? If so, why?
          5. Did WO sort out other issues for Bronwyn Pullar?

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