Spying on China

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The latest in the Snowden / GCSB spying leaks, as emerging in The Herald:

Leaked papers reveal NZ plan to spy on China for US

Our spies and America’s top government hackers cooked up a plan to crack into a data link between Chinese Government buildings in Auckland, new Edward Snowden documents reveal.

The project appeared aimed at tapping data flowing between the Chinese consulate and its passport office in Great South Rd — and using the link to access China’s computer systems.

One of the source documents included appears to show that “Phase 1” was completed.

In the case of spying on Korea Key claimed that they wouldn’t care:

Mr Key says the Koreans simply do not care, “because they wouldn’t give a monkey’s and they probably wouldn’t believe it”.

He can’t play that nonsense card in the case of China – from the Herald piece again:

The revelation is the most explosive of the information about New Zealand revealed in the Snowden documents — and has sparked a firm Chinese diplomatic response giving rise to concerns our security relationship with the United States is impacting our trade relationship with China.

A Chinese Embassy spokesman told the Herald on Sunday: “China is concerned about relevant report. We attach great importance to the cybersecurity issue.

See further analysis from Hager and Gallagher.

So, great, now we can add China to the growing list of countries that are pissed off with us. What could possibly go wrong?

100 comments on “Spying on China”

  1. Paul 1

    What a bunch of incompetent clowns.
    Pity we didn’t fire the lot of them in 2014.

    Actually pity they were ever hired.

    Wake up New Zealand these guys do NOT care about you.

  2. ianmac 2

    Whilst the GCSB is not we are told, spying in NZ what is there to stop other 5Eyes from spying on us and in return we spy on them then swap information gleaned. That way the PM can say hand on heart that the GCSB is not spying on NZers. Simple.
    The Chinese might retaliate with Trade sanctions. The dairy industry might be concerned?

    • Paul 2.1

      There is clearly a lot of milk about. They could easily buy elsewhere.
      Maybe some National supporting farmers might start to realise that this government does not put their interests as high as they say they do.

      Key worked for Merrill Lynch and big US banking interests.
      He still does.

      • Draco T Bastard 2.1.1

        There is clearly a lot of milk about. They could easily buy elsewhere.

        Give the Chinese time and they’ll outstrip us in milk production and export as well. Same as the US is doing already (I really have NFI why people think that the US is ever going to be a market for our agricultural produce). Agriculture is not how you develop a nations economy.

    • weka 2.2

      trade sanctions on milk exports is probably one of the better things that could happen at this point.

  3. Penny Bright 3

    How is it LAWFUL for the GCSB be involved in the alleged planned spying on Chinese Consulate diplomatic communications?

    How ‘two-faced’ is ex-Wall Street banker, ‘smiling assassin’ NZ Prime Minister John Key?

    Whose interests was / is NZ Prime Minister John Key serving, as the (then) Minister responsible for the GCSB, in the alleged planned spying on China – NZ’s major trading partner?

    The New Zealand public or U$A corporate interests?

    Surely the issue is not (again) HOW these leaked documents were obtained – but whether or not they are FACTUALLY ACCURATE??

    Penny Bright

    http://www.pennybright4mayor.org.nz

    • Paul 3.1

      Penny, it is clear that Key still works for Wall Street.

      • Murray Simmonds 3.1.1

        In answer to the concluding sentence in Anthony Robins’ post:
        ” What could possibly go wrong? ”

        Well the worst thing that could possibly go wrong is that this bunch of diplomatically dense, myopic clowns (who kid themselves that they are successfully running to country according to plan) could get re-elected for yet another term if we are not careful . . . .

        And ‘according to plan’ in the above statement of course means “according to Uncle Sam’s plan”.

      • mary_a 3.1.2

        @ Paul (3.1) Yes, Wall Street. And Washington. One and the same? Possibly.

        Doesn’t matter because one thing is definite, Key does NOT work in the best interests of NZ and Kiwis!

        Key’s spying activities on amiable nations, is not keeping us on an even keel throughout the international community. When more of this leaks out and becomes common knowledge, NZ will find itself under suspicion and isolated. And Key will be gone, lucratively paid off for his treason towards his homeland.

        Key is more of a threat to NZ than any outside terrorist could ever be.

        Wake up Kiwis!

        • Draco T Bastard 3.1.2.1

          Key is more of a threat to NZ than any outside terrorist could ever be.

          QFT

          And that also includes the entire National Party as they support their leader.

  4. david 4

    The government has plenty of ways to duck out of this: say they can’t remember; blame it on out of control bureaucrats; launch an enquiry; or blame it on the Greens.

    • BassGuy 4.1

      Don’t forget “Labour did it, too!”

    • mickysavage 4.2

      I don’t think they can claim they did not know. Section 8B of the GCSB Act says:

      8B Intelligence gathering and analysis
      (1) This function of the Bureau is—
      (a) to gather and analyse intelligence (including from information infrastructures) in accordance with the Government’s requirements about the capabilities, intentions, and activities of foreign persons and foreign organisations; and
      (b) to gather and analyse intelligence about information infrastructures; and
      (c) to provide any intelligence gathered and any analysis of the intelligence to—
      (i) the Minister …

      Presuming intelligence was collected Key must have been told.

      http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/2003/0009/latest/DLM5647924.html

      • dukeofurl 4.2.1

        As well the PM ( or minister) has legal authority to know operational matters for GCSB that isnt normally available for routine government departments.

        I can imagine the chinese having taken particular care over the coms between the two different buildings.
        The consulate is a building on its own site, which I presume they would own, while the visa office is down the road in an office park.
        Maybe they had noticed the attempted intrusion and could rely on line of sight comms from then on.

  5. ianmac 5

    Note that the Herald has slipped the online story down the page to be sandwiched between a story about heavy rain and one about a cricketer taking his kids to a takeway. Priorities?

    • dukeofurl 5.1

      Thats what happens automatically on online versions.
      It may have different stories up top depending on your history or if you have looked at the story in question

      • Lanthanide 5.1.1

        Yes, but they can also choose to promote a story to the top. Clearly they have not chosen to do that in this case.

  6. Sanctuary 6

    The essential contradiction of NZ foreign policy is it’s desire to trade with Chinabut fight with America. We just about manage to pull it off, but when a sycophantically pro-American like Key is in charge the balance is lost.

    Wait for an obscure change in health regulations leaving tons of our exports on their wharves while China “apologetically” tries to work it through with our officials.

  7. saveNZ 7

    It’s pretty simple to see NZ government has put NZ into an extremely dangerous position.

    They are absolute MORONS. I mean we already knew that but it keeps getting worse.

    They seem incapable of saying NO to either US or China and therefore endangering the relationship with both and screwing our country up permanently. They also are in breach of international law, good will etc.

    Somehow we are now owned or indebted to, two rival superpowers both internally and externally.

    Will this nightmare government ever end?

    If they just have one pinch of common sense and spine to do what is right morally and for the people of this country they would not have got caught up with illegal spying for the US or selling our country off to non resident foreign owners and would not have put NZ in this position.

  8. Colonial Rawshark 8

    There’s no problem, I think someone’s knighthood is now pretty secure.

  9. adam 9

    Dear Chinese government,

    The New Zealand government is a nasty, vindictive, amoral piece of work. They worship at the alter of cupidity, and are sycophants to wall street, all. It is doubtful these epigone to Washington could organise a piss up in a brewery – just look at our economy.

    Our Prime Minister is a hubristic fool, prone to vainglorious moments – on a much too regular basis. This is the opprobrium of being closely associated with gangsters, like the USA corporations.

    That said, I think you understand, we the people who live here, are really not responsible. We had a lot of propaganda, and indeed some real dirty politics so these politicians could stay in power. Maybe that the real problem – we the people don’t run our country. Because if we did – we would not bother spying on you – that would be to much effort.

    So please, please, please don’t stop sending the flat screens. We won’t question the daily suicides in your factories again. And please, most of all, just remember when you play games of state – you will always get people like, John Key.

    • Bill 9.1

      Excellent! 🙂

    • Tracey 9.2

      china are not saints. their wealthy are getting wealthy on the back of human rights abuses and exploiting working conditions. i get what you are saying but like attracts like. keys ethics are mirrored in who he grovels to. the dollar. no matter how bloodstained it is. he insulated himself from it by getting someone else to clean it off before he pockets it.

    • Once was+Tim 9.3

      PS Dear China,
      Do you mind if we adopt your solution to the problem of corrupt politicians and officials?

    • cogito 9.4

      🙂 🙂

      But, personally, I have no time at all for the Chinese, their corrupt communist dictatorship, their repression of the Hong Kong democratic movement, their abysmal record on human rights, their criminal drug activities in NZ, their financial invasion of NZ land, properties and businesses…. As for their flat screen tvs – they can keep them.

      • Once was Tim 9.4.1

        Agreed. But can we import the firing squads for corrupt officials and politicians? They’ll be a lot more ‘seemly’ and less upsetting for the littluns than corpses hanging from lamposts when the inevitable happens if we continue to persue the direction we’re heading. We seem to have lost the ‘learnings’ from history, and even ‘understandings’ of basic mathematics (the 99% up against the 1).
        (Like those pesky split hairs and the Pantene solution – it won’t happen overnight, but it WILL happen – royalties to Rod’s ex; GST to IRD)

    • Draco T Bastard 9.5

      That said, I think you understand, we the people who live here, are really not responsible.

      Actually, we are because we voted the fuckers in. What you say here is a good example of the disassociation that comes with Representative Democracy. It allows people to say the government did this, the government did that and it’s not what I wanted thus it’s not my responsibility. This is complete bollocks. We are the government and parliament is working for us and if it’s not doing what we want then we need to get rid of it.

      Personally, I think we need to change the system because of the faults that it has. It really is more of an elected dictatorship than democracy and it was purposefully set up that way so as to prevent the people actually governing themselves.

      • Once was Tim 9.5.1

        …..”It really is more of an elected dictatorship than democracy…”
        ain’t that the truth!. I think there’s been a sort of cultural shift (part of the I I I me me me culture in fact) where the winner takes all.
        MMP went part of the way to fixing the FPP fuckup but many still think in FPP terms.
        As Kelsey noted in one of her early books, at least MMP reigned in treasury to a degree because they found themselves having to negotiate and compromise a little. That’s not to say they haven’t now figured out other ways of pushing their barrow.
        How can we fix this ‘elected dictatorship’? – I’d be interested in your thoughts @DracotBastard (knowing of course you’re a hard left wing kinsprissy thereist pink commie bastard).
        I’d like to see some sort of upper house or mechanism providing the powers of veto (such as a ‘senate’ for want of a better word, that’s comprised of elected local/regional council reps) – at least some means of localising/regionalising reps….. along with things such as term limits, and as someone in here once suggested – a 3 year time limit on any legislation passed under urgency.

        • Draco T Bastard 9.5.1.1

          How can we fix this ‘elected dictatorship’?

          Progressively shift to a more referendum driven policy development and passage. That will, IMO, require online voting and a reduction in working hours from our excessively high working week.

          I’d like to see some sort of upper house or mechanism providing the powers of veto (such as a ‘senate’ for want of a better word, that’s comprised of elected local/regional council reps)

          The US and the UK have one of those. It hasn’t made anything better. When both houses are dominated by the same parties then the upper house merely becomes a rubber stamp and when the houses oppose each other the upper house becomes a restriction preventing law changes no matter how necessary.

  10. Murray Simmonds 10

    ‘. . . .desire to trade with China but fight with America.”

    Unfortunately its not just “fight with America”. Its also bend over backwards to meet their every whim and desire.

    The Pan Pacific Trade agreement shows just how determined the big USA corporates and multinationals are to dominate global market share at all costs.

    Including in our case the cost of our sovereignty and our right to determine our own economic direction in the world.

    And this idiot government just can’t wait to sign us up to it.

  11. Colonial Rawshark 11

    Listen to this useless so-called academic from Victoria University in the Herald article. Apparently policy making is not an area of government which is helped by “public scrutiny”:

    Victoria University’s Dr Jim Rolfe, director of its Centre for Security Studies, said there were areas of government which were not helped by public scrutiny.

    He said the Snowden revelations had produced benefits in revealing over-reach in some intelligence operations, although “90 per cent of it is prurient”.

    “I suspect things have been hurt rather than helped by Snowden because it has distracted policy makers from their work.”

    I’d like Jim Rolfe to come forward and point to the 90% of Snowden’s revelations which are “prurient.” What a dick. Sounds like he has been too closely linked to the establishment for far too long. Especially considering that the Snowden relevations have been very carefully selected and reported on by Glenn Greenwald, the Guardian, the New York Times, the Washington Post and other leading media exactly for their relevance to democracy and accountability (or the lack of it) behind the activities and technologies of our spy services. But lets worry more about his high up unaccountable policy maker friends being “distracted” by Snowden’s revelations.

    The irony is that it was the deep state PR machine which put out all the stories out there about Snowden being “attention seeking”, “narcissistic”, a “high school drop out”, having failed his military training etc. Now that was really “prurient.” Didn’t see him criticising the establishment PR though.

    • Tracey 11.1

      he means most people are too dumb to cope with knowledge. a few selected bright sparks, like him for example, know what is best for us lower beings. k?

      • Colonial Rawshark 11.1.1

        So much for our academic institutions highlighting abuses of power and holding the establishment to account.

        • Bill 11.1.1.1

          Outside of a short time around the 60s, when did they as institutions ‘highlight abuses of power’ or ‘hold the establishment to account’? They are the establishment.

          Whenever I think of ‘academic institutions’ I remember my grandfather telling me that it was university students who ran the trams during the 1926 General Strike. And then I reflect that those ‘academic institutions’ are becoming more and more the preserve of the monied and privileged these days…conservative and reactionary…at least in NZ.

          • Tracey 11.1.1.1.1

            you mean like professor jane kelsey

            canty students mobilising post quake. i dont recall vice chancellors ever speaking except to want more money that they had already spent… academics always spoke out tho… less now than then but they do speak out

            • Colonial Rawshark 11.1.1.1.1.1

              She’s literally a one in a thousand out of all the PhD types that the state employs, and you know it.

              • Murray Rawshark

                Hey. I’m a PhD type employed by the (Australian) state. I speak out, but quantum physics doesn’t have as much relevance as Jane’s work. I do suspect the Chinese will be moving to quantum cryptography for any diplomatic traffic within Aotearoa though. It’s not only unbreakable, but you know when someone’s tried.

    • dukeofurl 11.2

      This is his bio. Work out if he independent or not ?

      Rolfe has had a career in both the public and university sector. He started his working life in the New Zealand Army, moved to the Department of Prime Minister and Cabinet as a policy adviser dealing with a range of security issues and completed his PhD while there. He was Deputy Director of the Centre for Security Studies and Associate Director of the Master of International Relations Programme at VUW in the period 1991-2001. Rolfe then moved to the United States as an Associate Professor of International Relations at the Asia-Pacific Center for Security Studies for six years. He returned to the Ministry of Defence where he was Principal Adviser, Strategic Policy for several years and from where he was seconded to the Australian Civil-Military Centre as Deputy Director.

      he may even be a ‘recruiter’ for the security services from amoung the graduate students.

      Its a bit like asking the police Union to comment on some situation- you know the approach they will have

    • Murray Rawshark 11.3

      Dr Jim Rolfe is an ex-Army major who worked with Bananarama in Fiji and has had a position at a security think tank in the US and A. He’s as Kiwi as FJK.

  12. Tracey 12

    we spy on our friends to get a business advantage we spy on our enemies to fuck up our business advantage

  13. The Murphey 13

    Q. Remember the protracted and numerous accusations against Huawei ?

    • Lloyd 13.1

      The irony is that Huawei manufactured exchanges are most likely tapping GCSB and that they are listening to what GCSB has extracted out of the Chinese land-line…….

  14. fisiani 14

    China is spying on NZ. We still trade with China and they with us. Another failed attempt to somehow smear Honest John.

    • Stuart Munro 14.1

      Yup right – it’s pretty hard to further soil the image of an oozy turd like John Key.

    • Colonial Rawshark 14.2

      China is spying on NZ. We still trade with China and they with us. Another failed attempt to somehow smear Honest John.

      So the damage to our (false) position as honest brokers is irrelevant to you? Sad, fisi, just sad.

      • felix 14.2.1

        Guys like Key and even little fisiani don’t really have to get to grips with words like “honest”.

        It’s just a word, like “fact” or “actually” or “reality”, they’re all just words and depending what you use them for they can mean anything really.

        “Honest” might just mean “good at golf” for all we know.

        • Gosman 14.2.1.1

          Why do you think we are some sort of neutral honest broker?

          • felix 14.2.1.1.1

            I didn’t say we were.

            However successive governments of all stripes have talked up our “independent foreign policy” and our international reputation as an “honest broker”.

            You only have to go back as far as the current govt’s statements on our recent appointment to the UNSC to find examples of both.

            As it turns out neither are true as we spy for the U.S. on our friends, neighbours and trading partners around the world.

    • Draco T Bastard 14.3

      Have you actually got proof of that or are you just going with the BS lines from Crosby/Textor/National Party HQ?

    • BassGuy 14.4

      It’s not a smear if he actually was involved in it, now is it?

    • Fran 14.5

      Best satirical comments everytime fisiani. I don’t know why so many people think you are serious, your comments are so out there they must be satire.

    • keyman 14.6

      all these left wing clowns have no idea how the world works ,john key is working for new zealand and all these people want to do is run our great leader down.

    • keyman2 14.7

      china will not care the important thing is John key is out doing it for new Zealand

  15. Penny Bright 15

    NEW ZEALAND PLOTTED HACK ON CHINA WITH NSA

    https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/04/18/new-zealand-china-gcsb-nsa-auckland-hack/

    “New Zealand spies teamed with National Security Agency hackers to break into a data link in the country’s largest city, Auckland, as part of a secret plan to eavesdrop on Chinese diplomats, documents reveal.

    The covert operation, reported Saturday by New Zealand’s Herald on Sunday in collaboration with The Intercept, highlights the contrast between New Zealand’s public and secret approaches to its relationship with China, its largest and most important trading partner.

    The hacking project suggests that New Zealand’s electronic surveillance agency, Government Communications Security Bureau, or GCSB, may have violated international treaties that prohibit the interception of diplomatic communications.

    New Zealand has signed both the 1961 Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations and the 1963 Vienna Convention on Consular Relations, international treaties that protect the “inviolability” of diplomatic correspondance. The country’s prime minister, John Key, said in a recent speech on security that New Zealand had an obligation to support the rule of law internationally, and was “known for its integrity, reliability and independence.”
    ______________________________________________________________________________________

    So – how LAWFUL was this planned spying on Chinese diplomats in New Zealand?

    Looks like the Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security may have yet ANOTHER ‘inquiry’ on her hands?

    (I know the ‘spin’ will focus on HOW these documents were obtained, rather than their FACTUAL ACCURACY?)

    Penny Bright

    http://www.pennybright4mayor.org.nz

  16. Wayne 16

    Penny,

    You simply have no idea what you are talking about.

    Last time I checked China was a foreign country. And that is what GCSB primarily does, spy on foreign countries. It is specifically what it was set up for.

    China is hardly going to be surprised by this “revelation”, and apart from proforma protest will do nothing.

    • Colonial Rawshark 16.1

      China is hardly going to be surprised by this “revelation”, and apart from proforma protest will do nothing.

      So we recently decide to systematically violate the sanctity of their diplomatic communications on US orders, and despite this change in our posture towards them, China will simply shrug its shoulders? LOL

    • McFlock 16.2

      China might hardly be surprised, but I will hardly be surprised if some of our more perishable exports have “customs misunderstandings” in the next few months.

      Just a little smack to keep us in line.

      • emergency mike 16.2.1

        That was my first thought about this also. Expect a correction to Chinese requirements for NZ imports in the not too distant future.

    • Murray Rawshark 16.3

      Jeez Wayne, can you tell us about the Vienna Conventions on diplomatic communications? It’s also probable that Kiwis applying for visas were being spied on. That’s another breach of our own laws.

      While I’m happy you’re out of parliament, I fear that whoever replaced you probably has the same flexible ethics.

    • Pascals bookie 16.4

      So why bother keeping it all secret then Wayne?

      Actual question there. I mean, what’s the point in keeping it all secret if everyone knows?

  17. McFlock 17

    NZ is a small state geopolitically. We need to straddle the gulf between the larger powers and strengthen inter-governmental diplomatic organisations, not become a client state of one or the other – that weakens our position with both.

    It’s one thing to openly assist the US against 4th parties, but directly and covertly assisting the US (which is possibly entering a decline phase) against another superpower is a bullshit move that would likely have MFaT officials headdesking.

    • cogito 17.1

      As a small state geopolitically, NZ would do well to decide who its friends are and then behave accordingly.

      • McFlock 17.1.1

        States don’t have friends. Just “stateswho aren’t working to attack us”, “states who are probably working towards attacking us”, “states we will protect to serve our own interests while extracting as much as possible from the arrangement”, and “states who are serving their own interests by protecting us while extracting as much as possible from the arrangement”.

        Basically, our objective would be to maintain as much independence as possible, rather than being overcome or ceding our sovreignty to another nation.

        • cogito 17.1.1.1

          “States don’t have friends”

          Yes they do.

          • McFlock 17.1.1.1.1

            Only in the shallowest “nice if I can get something out of it, drop you like a hot potato if you don’t give me a port of convenience for my nuclear-armed vessels” sense of the word.

            The sort of “friendship” one sees between sociopaths or drunk teenagers.

      • Colonial Rawshark 17.1.2

        Then make sure you pick friends which are on the ascendance, not friends whose fortunes are on the wane.

  18. Penny Bright 18

    So you don’t believe in the ‘Rule of Law’ Wayne?

    Penny Bright

    • adam 18.1

      What ‘rule of law ‘Penny?

      Laws, good people don’t need them, and the bad will just break them.

      To many of our so called laws – uphold bad peoples virtues – like the reserve bank act, or that little nugget which brought us the super city.

  19. Sable 19

    Utter bunch of screw ups. Well done Shonkey. Now the country with the fastest economic growth on earth is ticked off with us. Whilst the sad defunct USA with 18 trillion in debt is our friend……Well done…..

  20. keyman 20

    you clowns don’t know what your taking about all countries spy nothing to see here no smoking gun move on

  21. Murray Rawshark 21

    This is the sort of thing that could see China cutting off diplomatic relations. It seems clear that it violates the Vienna conventions. I’d laugh if FJK visited China and got arrested. At least his family could afford to pay for the bullet.
    And Dr. Jim Rolfe seems to be a total moron.

  22. dave 22

    i sort hope china is pissed

  23. infused 23

    You guys should do a little bit of research on China’s spy ops, mainly cyber related.

    All this tells me is you guys are completely clueless.

    Here’s a tip. Go do some research on a company called Nortel and follow the bread crumbs. Your faux outrage is hilarious.

    • Colonial Viper 23.1

      maybe you think our intelligence services should be poodles at the beck and call of the NSA even against our own interests, but not everyone else does.

    • Draco T Bastard 23.2

      It’s one of those points that the right-wing just don’t seem to get: Just because someone else engages in immoral behaviour doesn’t give us carte blanche to do the same. Also known as: Two wrongs don’t make a right.

      We need to protect ourselves from their spying and call it out when we catch them but not actually engage in spying on them.

    • emergency mike 23.3

      Here’s a tip infused. If you read the OP you’ll find it’s about our spies spying on China, possibly in breach of an international treaty that we’ve signed up to.

      You seem to be concerned about China’s spying operations. Don’t sweat it, easy mistake I’m sure. Perhaps you could write a letter to the Chinese embassy about it? Or maybe become a Chinese citizen and vote against the Chinese Communist Party at the next election? Let us know what you decide to do and how it goes.

      I know you’re not pulling the old ‘but they did it too’ excuse for your mate John’s risky and rude treatment of one of our biggest trading partner’s representative guests in our country. Primary school kids don’t get away with that one. So that would be idiotic of you.

      Just like ol’ Honest John’s weekly “Labour did it too” and “Helen Clark did worse” lines for his weekly fuck up. They seem to go down a treat with the idiotic. Some of them even come around here and proudly, obediently, repeat them, apparently completely unaware how fucking idiotic it makes them look.

    • Pascals bookie 23.4

      lol Infused.

      last time you followed breadcrumbs you reported back that there would be a full scale war on the Korean peninsula within ten days, and Iran would attack Israel, or some shit.

      • infused 23.4.1

        Hey, we were close.

        This has already happened. Years ago, and explains many other cyber related spying issues in the process.

        • Pascals bookie 23.4.1.1

          No we were not close.

          You said a bunch of things were going to happen on account of your superior knowledge gleaned from deleted internet posts.

          A bunch of other people laughed at you said ‘no it won’t; you’re full of shit’

          Turned out those other people were correct.

  24. One Anonymous+Bloke 24

    The official response makes for ‘interesting’ reading.

    The Chinese Embassy in New Zealand issued a statement Sunday, saying that China was concerned about the report and attached great importance to the cyber security issue.

    “We will firmly safeguard our security interests and continue to guarantee our cyber and information security with concrete measures,” said the statement.

    “At present, cyber space is riddled with chaos and uncertainty. China proposes to settle disputes through dialogue and formulate codes to regulate cyber space behaviors that are acceptable to all sides.”

    Chaos and uncertainty, eh? Sounds quite inharmonious.

  25. Gosman 25

    Guess what guys. China spies on us as well. Shock Horror!

    • One Anonymous+Bloke 25.1

      The difference being that they’re in a position to do something about it, and we, um, aren’t.

      The story is high on the page. The National Party’s owner/donors will be nervous about the potential for a consumer boycott. “We won’t open all your mail” will be a great point of difference their competitors can exploit.

    • Sable 25.2

      The real question is why are we not fostering closer relations with China? Instead of backing the defunct USA?

      • cogito 25.2.1

        Judging by Auckland these days, I would say that we are. The Chinese already own our businesses and houses, won’t be long before they’re in our beds and we’re reciting passages from Chairman Mao’s little red book…. in Mandarin.

  26. Instauration 26

    MITM – LOL

    588 Great South Road – CONSULATE-GENERAL OF THE PEOPLE’S REPUBLIC OF CHINA IN AUCKLAND

    600 Great South Road – Endace Measurement Systems Limited – http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/8859155/NZ-firm-linked-to-suspect-spy-row

    630 Great South Road – CONSULATE-GENERAL OF THE PEOPLE’S REPUBLIC OF CHINA IN AUCKLAND Visa Office

    Follow the unstamped duct covers – dark fibre below.

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    We all know that bad parents simply don’t care about their children’s education. Most truants have loser parents, and grow up to be involved with crime, or in low paid employment usually like their parents. The nonsense so-called “climate strike” coming up will be attended mostly by the least intelligent ...
    An average kiwiBy admin@averagekiwi.com
    11 hours ago
  • Professional Internet Trolls being used to push manmade climate change lies
    Is the terrorist Organisation Greenpeace and the loony Green parties around the World hiring professional internet trolls? I have noticed a trend lately where if you post research, news articles or even comments that show the manmade climate change scam to be just that, you are immediately attacked, often within ...
    An average kiwiBy admin@averagekiwi.com
    11 hours ago
  • Climate Change: Strike!
    Today is the first day of the global climate strike. Led by schoolkids, people all around the world are going to protest to demand action on climate change. New Zealand isn't doing it till next Friday (join us!), but if you want to get active early, there's plenty to do ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    19 hours ago
  • Climate Change: Squandering our opportunity?
    The Herald has a story today about the 400 MW of wind power currently under construction. Good news, right? Except that none of it is being driven by policy (instead, its about replacing Contact Energy's Taranaki Combined Cycle gas-fired power plant, due to shut down in 2022), and most of ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    20 hours ago
  • Protect The King!
    To Protect and Serve: When the Prime Minister finds herself enmeshed in the coils of a full-blown political scandal, her colleagues and party comrades have only one priority: to release her as swiftly – and with as little lasting injury – as possible. Is this what Jacinda Ardern’s colleagues and ...
    20 hours ago
  • The rot at the top.
    When military leaders cover up and lie to elected civilian authorities, the foundation of democratic civil-military relations is undermined because it is those authorities who are entrusted to hold the military accountable to the public that they mutually serve. But this is only true if civilian political authorities take their ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    21 hours ago
  • Challenging the voting age in court
    The Make It 16 campaign to lower the voting age is launching this afternoon, and they have already announced plans to challenge the law in court:The campaign, named "Make it 16" will launch at Parliament on Friday, with plans to take their case to the High Court, testing the rights ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    22 hours ago
  • Israel’s elections herald a long siesta
    by Daphna Whitmore The long years of Netanyahu’s reign are drawing to an end. For years he has epitomized reactionary zionism as he oversaw hundreds of thousands of Jewish settlers seize land in the West Bank. There are now 700,000 settlers, putting an end to the myth that Israel was ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    23 hours ago
  • Petrol companies promise prices will come back down once peace is restored to the Middle East
    BP, Z and Mobil all insist that petrol price hikes are temporary, “in a very literal sense.” The nation’s major petrol providers are trying to allay customer fears over prices, promising that they’ll move to lower them again “immediately” when the Middle East is returned to its formerly peaceful state. ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 days ago
  • All Blacks unveil boat for Rugby World Cup 2019
    South African coach Rassie Erasmus says he has no idea what they’re going to do about the boat. In a highly anticipated press conference this afternoon, All Blacks coach Steve Hansen has finally unveiled the team’s boat for its Rugby World Cup 2019 campaign. In a press conference that went ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 days ago
  • An increasingly shoddy coverup
    The Operation Burnham inquiry continued to question senior NZDF staff today, and their shoddy coverup over their knowledge of civilian casualties continue to fall apart. If you recall, first, we were asked to believe that it was all a series of "mistakes and errors": a senior officer with multiple degrees ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago
  • If we are to avoid making the earth uninhabitable, we need to rapidly decarbonise our civilisation, and cut emissions to zero as quickly as possible. This seems like an impossible task, but its not. Pushing hard on a few technologies and trends will let us halve emissions in a decade:Greenhouse ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago
  • A further attack on transparency
    The Local Government Act 2002 Amendment Bill (No 2) had part of its committee stage yesterday. its a generally tedious bill about the nitty-gritty of local government reorganisation. But it includes a clause making the Local Government Commission subject to the Ombudsmen Act, and hence the OIA. Great! Except of ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago
  • Ihumātao and Treaty settlements
    Yesterday Ihumātao's mana whenua reached a consensus that they would like their land back, and asked the government to negotiate with Fletcher's for its return. The government's response? Try and undermine that consensus, while talking about how doing anything would undermine existing Treaty settlements. The first is just more bad ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago
  • Protecting our history
    Its Suffrage Day, the 126th anniversary of women winning the right to vote (but not stand in elections) in New Zealand. And to celebrate, the government has bought Kate Sheppard's house in Christchurch:The government has bought Kate Sheppard's former home in Christchurch for more than $4 million. The Ilam villa ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago
  • Climate Change: Ostracising the coal-burners
    The UN climate summit is happening in new York next week, and unlike previous years, coal-burners and denier-states are not being invited to speak:Leading economies such as Japan and Australia will not be invited to speak at next week’s crunch UN climate change summit, as their continued support for coal ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago
  • Jojo Tamihere Salutes Herr Goff.
    Get Back Jojo! The elation in Mayor Phil Goff’s camp may be easily imagined as they watched social media light up in indignation at challenger John Tamihere’s "Sieg Heil to that" quip. Just when JT’s notoriously right-wing, sexist and homophobic stains were beginning to fade back into his ‘colourful’ past, ...
    2 days ago
  • Hard News: A fun but flawed weed documentary
    Patrick Gower is good value when he's high. Not that I've ever, you know, got stoned with him. But in the second part of his documentary Patrick Gower on Weed, he does what you'd expect in a modern weed documentary and immerses himself – first with a doctor, then a ...
    2 days ago
  • Candidate Survey: Western Bay of Plenty – Local Body Elections 2019
    We surveyed candidates on their attitudes to issues facing the Western Bay Region, find out what they think: “Closing the Gap” Tauranga, one of the area groups of Income Equality Aotearoa NZ Inc., has surveyed all candidates in the three local body elections to discover attitudes to some basic issues ...
    Closing the GapBy Tracey Sharp
    3 days ago
  • Project Nettie calls on scientists to defend biology
    Please spread widely, and sign, to support science and rationalism over the new irrationalism sweeping universities and institutions.  PROJECT NETTIE Sexual reproduction, the generation of offspring by fusion of genetic material from two different individuals, evolved over 1 billion years ago. It is the reproductive strategy of all higher animals ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    3 days ago
  • I’m glad I don’t live in Auckland
    Just when I was thinking that Palmerston North's mayoral race (which includes a convicted child molester / public wanker and a convicted child beater) was the worst in the country, Auckland mayoral candidate John Tamihere opened his mouth:Auckland mayoral candidate John Tamihere is being slammed for using the words "sieg ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago
  • Index of Power Update, 2018-19: China #2
    We reprint below an article from the excellent website the Economics of Imperialism by Tony Norfield This is an update of the statistics for my Index of Power, using data for 2018-19 and discussing what a country’s ranking reflects. The major change is that China’s rank has shifted up and ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    3 days ago
  • Climate Change: A history lesson
    Why is New Zealand climate change policy so crap? The Herald this morning has a long article on the twists and turns of climate change policy in New Zealand [paywalled / depaywall script], which shows where we've been. The short version is that the government first began worrying about this ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago
  • What the All Blacks Mean to Us
    The All Blacks have been, for more than a century, arguably the most successful International sports team in the world. But they are more than that; even for those Kiwis who are immune to the charms of rugby (and there are more than a few), the All Blacks are ambassadors ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    3 days ago
  • No one is born into the wrong body
    A short and incredibly powerful speech from a young lesbian woman. No one is born in the wrong body. ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    4 days ago
  • Contempt
    Back in June, the UK Court of Appeal ruled that that country's continued arms sales to Saudi Arabia were unlawful. So you'd expect that the UK government stopped approving them, right?Of course not:The government has apologised for breaching a court ruling against the sale of weapons to Saudi Arabia that ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • Covering up the cover-up
    Yesterday NZDF officials were put on the stand about the lies they had told over Operation Burnham, making implausible claims that it was all a big mistake. But along the way, we learned they had already been put on the spot about it by a previous Defence Minister, who had ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • Not as important as they think they are
    Farmers have been whining a lot lately, about the methane targets in the Zero Carbon Bill, about Canterbury's proposed nitrogen limits, and about the government's new proposals to stop them from shitting in our lakes and rivers. These policies are "throwing farmers under the tractor", they will force farmers off ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • Behind Every Good Woman Should Stand – Another Good Woman.
    Alone, Alone, All, All, Alone: To argue that the Prime Minister is the victim of her advisers’ failure to keep her informed may offer Jacinda some measure of exoneration – but only at the cost of casting her as a hopeless political ingénue. A star-dusted muppet, whose only purpose is to ...
    4 days ago
  • Poor quality, poorly educated kiddie ‘Journalists’ spreading fake news
    In times of hysteria about the “World coming to an end” and “rising sea levels” so-called ‘Journalists’ who can barely spell words longer than four letters are having a ball! Though the majority of the Public have worked out that manmade climate change is nothing short of pseudo-science, and the ...
    An average kiwiBy admin@averagekiwi.com
    4 days ago
  • Chris Trotter on the BFD
    I don't want to give pblicity to certain parts of the internet that are better left to fester in their own irrelevance (I know, a bit like this place) but the listing of Chris Trotter as a 'author' on Cameron Slater's spinoff website, the BFD requires some explanation.Now, I don't ...
    4 days ago
  • Sex is not a spectrum
    The text below is a Twitter thread by Heather Heying that explains the essence of sexual reproduction and it long evolutionary history. She is an evolutionary biologist and a “professor-in-exile” after she and her husband, Bret Weinstein, stood up to supporters of an enforced “Day of Absence” for white staff and teachers ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    5 days ago
  • Climate Change: Trees, aviation, and offsets
    With crunch time for new Zealand climate policy approaching, most of the New Zealand media have got on board with a global reporting effort to cover the issue. There's one strand of stories today about polling and what it shows about changing public attitudes to the crisis, but the strand ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • Pissing-Off The Israelis Is A High-Risk Strategy.
    Dangerous Foes: For those readers of Bowalley Road who feel disposed to dismiss any prospect of an Israeli destabilisation of New Zealand politics, the example of the United Kingdom repays close attention. Ever since the election of Jeremy Corbyn as leader of the British Labour Party, the Israelis have sanctioned, funded and ...
    5 days ago
  • Something to go to in Wellington
    Make It 16, the youth-led campaign to lower New Zealand's voting age, is holding an official campaign launch at Parliament this Friday from 16:30. If you'd like to attend, you can register using EventBrite here. ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • A founding member responds to Peace Action Wellington
    by Don Franks It was a lovely sunny Wellington afternoon with blue skies above  the beaches.  In Courtenay Place, political activists packed out a stuffy upstairs room for an important meeting. The assembled pacifists, anarchists, communists and independent young radicals of Peace Action Wellington felt the need for a mission ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    5 days ago
  • “Mistakes and errors”
    Current and former NZDF top brass are being publicly grilled this week by the hit and run inquiry over their public responses to allegations of civilian casualties. Previously, they've claimed there were no casualties, a position which led them to lie to Ministers and to the public. Now, they're saying ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • “Homosexuality is same-sex attraction and relationships, not heterosexuals with delusions of gende...
    by Rafael D. Quiles (gender-critical gay man from Puerto Rico) The writing on the wall is right in people’s faces and people just don’t see it or don’t want to. What could actually possess a heterosexual male to want to feminize himself and claim that he is a lesbian? Because ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    6 days ago
  • Trump: “Where’s my favourite dictator?”
    From the Wall Street Journal:Inside a room of the ornately decorated Hotel du Palais during last month’s Group of Seven summit in Biarritz, France, President Trump awaited a meeting with Egyptian President Abdel Fattah Al Sisi. Mr. Trump looked over a gathering of American and Egyptian officials and called out in ...
    6 days ago
  • Magdalen Burns, 1983-2019, fighter for women’s liberation
    by the Redline blog collective At Redline we are very saddened to hear of the death of Magdalen Burns who passed away on the morning of Friday, September 13 (British time). Magdalen was a great fighter for the rights of women in general and lesbian women in particular, a defender ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    7 days ago
  • Parliament and the Executive
    The Brexit issue has certainly brought with it a series of apparently difficult constitutional issues, many of them concerning the respective roles of the executive and parliament. Most of them arise because of the unwillingness of MPs, despite their professions to the contrary, to be bound by a constitutional rarity ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    1 week ago
  • The Abigail Article; Martyn Bradbury’s Article, and My Response
    . . This blogpost is different to my usual format of reporting on issues… Since July 1011, I have blogged on a variety of political issues; near always political and/or environmental; mostly highly critical of the previous National Government. Other issues included Israeli occupation of Palestinian lands and repression of ...
    Frankly SpeakingBy Frank Macskasy
    1 week ago
  • Police will have to wear silly Buckingham Palace hats from now on, says Police Minister
    Those close to the Police Minister believe the initiative may be the result of Nash “seeing a great deal” on AliExpress. In a move that comes seemingly out of nowhere, Police Minister Stuart Nash announced this afternoon that he expects all frontline staff to don bearskin hats, famously worn by ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • A sensible crackdown
    The government has released its Arms Legislation Bill, containing the second tranche of changes to gun laws following the March 15 massacre. And it all looks quite sensible: a national gun register, higher penalties for illegal possession and dealing, tighter restrictions on arms dealers and shooting clubs, and a shorter ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • California bans private prisons
    Private prisons are a stain on humanity. Prison operators explicitly profit from human misery, then lobby for longer prisons terms so they can keep on profiting. And in the US, prison companies run not only local and state prisons, but also Donald Trump's immigration concentration camps. Faced with this moral ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Why PPPs are a bad idea
    When National was in power, they were very keen on Public-Private Partnerships (PPPs) - basicly, using private companies to finance public infrastructure as a way of hiding debt from the public. They were keen on using them for everything - roads, schools, hospitals. But as the UK shows, that "service" ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • A Movement That No Longer Moves.
    Moving And Shaking: There was a time when people spoke matter-of-factly about the “labour movement” – a political phenomenon understood to embrace much more than the Labour Party. Included within the term’s definition was the whole trade union movement – many of whose members looked upon the Labour Party as ...
    1 week ago
  • NZ ‘left’ politically embracing extreme postmodernism
    by Philip Ferguson Much of the left, even people who formally identify as marxists, have collapsed politically in the face of postmodern gender theory of the sort pioneered by American philosopher Judith Butler. For Butler even biological sex is socially constructed. “If the immutable character of sex is contested, perhaps ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • The obvious question
    The media is reporting that the (alleged) Labour party sexual assaulter has resigned from their job at Parliament, which means hopefully he won't be turning up there making people feel unsafe in future. Good. But as with everything about this scandal, it just raises other questions. Most significantly: why the ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • The moment I found out that you found out, I acted swiftly
    By Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern I am every bit as angry as you are. I am every bit as disappointed as you must be. The people with power, oversight and the ability to do something about these processes within the Labour Party should be ashamed. Whoever those people are, I ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • This is why people hate property developers
    Property developers think there is an "oversupply" of houses in Auckland:High turnover rates and falling prices may be a sign that there are too many new houses going in to some parts of Auckland, commentators say. [...] Property developer David Whitburn said there was a "bit of an oversupply" in ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Australia to Pacific: “Fuck you, you can all drown”
    World leaders are meeting in New York in two weeks for the 2019 Climate Action Summit, where they are expected to announce new and more ambitious targets to stop the world from burning. But the Australian Prime Minister won't be there, despite being in the USA at the time:Scott Morrison ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Implausible ignorance
    Labour Party president Nigel Haworth resigned yesterday over the party's sexual assault scandal. But while that's good news, its unlikely to take away the stench of a coverup. Because according to Paula Bennett in Parliament yesterday, pretty much everyone in the Prime Minister's office was involved as well:I have been ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Labour’s Fatal Flaw.
     Two-Faced? Labour insiders' commitment to the neoliberal status quo puts them at odds with their party’s membership; its trade union affiliates; and a majority of Labour voters, but this only serves to strengthen the perception they have of themselves as a special elite. Among the lesser breeds, they’ll talk up a ...
    1 week ago
  • Ten reasons the Tories do NOT want an election
    There has been a lot of talk about Boris Johnson wanting an election, and he has blustered with great gusto about 'chicken' Jeremy Corbyn refusing one, but I think there are many reasons why he is secretly glad he has been refused the opportunity:The Tories are an utter rabble,tearing themselves ...
    1 week ago
  • Prorogation Illegal, rule Scottish judges
    Scottish appeal court judges have declared that Boris Johnson’s decision to suspend parliament in the run-up to the October Brexit deadline is unlawful. The three judges, chaired by Lord Carloway, Scotland’s most senior judge, overturned an earlier ruling that the courts did not have the powers to interfere in the prime ...
    1 week ago
  • Let me explain what I meant by Everyday New Zealanders
    By Simon Bridges. The following is a press release from the office of Simon Bridges, leader of The National Party. Key ora, New Zealand. Happy Maori Language Week. Look, I’m writing to you today because I want to clear something up. There’s been a lot of kerfuffle around some things ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • Yes, the SIS is subject to the Public Records Act
    I understand there's some stuff going round about how the SIS "was removed from the list of public offices covered by the Public Records Act in 2017". The context of course being their records derived from US torture, which will be disposed of or sealed. The good news is that ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • An evidence-based discussion of the Canadian fluoride/IQ study
    Dr. Christopher Labos and Jonathan Jarry discuss the recent Canadian fluoride/IQ research. They provide an expert analysis of the paper and its problems. Click on image to go to podcast. The critical debate about the recent ...
    1 week ago
  • Climate Change: Australia in denial
    Australia is burning down again, and meanwhile its natural disaster minister is denying climate change:Australia’s minister responsible for drought and natural disasters, David Littleproud, has said that he doesn’t “know if climate change is manmade”. Clarifying earlier comments that the question is “irrelevant” when considering the Coalition government’s response to ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Philippines activist speaking on the Duterte tyranny
    Auckland Philippines Solidarity is excited to host Professor Judy Taguiwalo for a speaking tour of NZ in September. She is a well-known activist in the Philippines and was a political prisoner under the Marcos dictatorship. Professor Taguiwalo briefly served as a Cabinet member under President Duterte but was forced from ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • Disgust
    I have no special insights to offer on the Labour sexual assault coverup. All I have is disgust. Disgust that an organisation could fail its people so badly. Disgust that they punished the victims rather than the perpetrator. Disgust that its party hacks are apparently blaming the victims for demanding ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Speak Up for Women calls out Greens’ censorship
    This open letter to the Green Party was penned after an opinion piece by Jill Abigail, a feminist and founding member of the party, was censored by the Greens’ leadership. (Redline has reprinted her article here).The intolerance of the Green Party leaders and their acceptance of the misogyny of gender ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • Member’s Day: End of Life Choice, part 3
    Today is a Member's day, and David Seymour's End of Life Choice Bill continues its slow crawl through its committee stage. They're spending the whole day on it today, though the first hour is likely to be spent on voting left over from last time. After that they'll move on ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Flight to Los Angeles turned back after passengers decide they don’t want to go anymore
    An ambitious plan to fly to Los Angeles petered out into a brief sight-seeing trip and a desire to return home and get some sleep before work tomorrow. Air New Zealand has confirmed a flight to Los Angeles last night was turned back about a quarter of the way into ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • Indigenous Futures: defuturing and futuring – an analytical framework for policy development?
    There appears to be consensus – by omission – that the concept of indigenous futures should be accepted at face value. So I scavenged the internet to see if I could locate an academic descriptor or a framework around how we think about it as a concept, and whether it ...
    EllipsisterBy Ellipsister
    2 weeks ago
  • Cadbury rumoured to be releasing the Pineapple Trump
    Here’s another novelty chocolate to shove in your gob, New Zealand Cadbury could be seeking to make itself great again with a rumoured new release: Pineapple Trumps, a spin on its classic chocolate-encased pineapple treat and do-it-yourself tooth remover. The global confectionery manufacturer and bumbling “before” character in an infomercial, ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • The coming resource war.
    During my time in the Pentagon I had the privilege of sitting down with military leaders and defence and security officials from a variety of Latin American nations. Sometimes I was present as a subordinate assistant to a senior US defence department official, sometimes as part of a delegation that ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    2 weeks ago
  • Māori Language Week with The Civilian
    Kia ora, Aotearoa. It’s that magical time of year. Te Wiki o te Reo Māori. In English, the week that frightens talk radio. As you probably know by now, all your favourite media outlets are participating, some more successfully than others. Stuff has changed its name to Puna for the ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Will Horizons act on climate change?
    Local body elections are coming up next month. And it looks like all Palmerston North candidates for Horizons (the Manawatu-Whanganui Regional Council) want to take action on climate change:Climate change is set to be a key issue in Palmerston North for the next three years if those wanting to get ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • BORA reform is stalled
    Eighteen months ago, the government promised to strengthen the Bill of Rights Act, by explicitly affirming the power of the courts to issue declarations of inconsistency and requiring Parliament to formally respond to them. So how's that going? I was curious, so I asked for all advice about the proposal. ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Corbyn and Brexit
    As the Brexit saga staggers on, the focus is naturally enough on the Prime Minister and his attempts to achieve Brexit “do or die”. But the role played by the Leader of the Opposition is of almost equal interest and complexity. The first problem for Jeremy Corbyn is that he ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    2 weeks ago
  • A ditch for him to die in
    Last week, English Prime Minister Boris Johnson boldly declared that he would rather die be dead in a ditch than delay Brexit. Unfortunately for him, the UK parliament accepted the challenge, and promptly dug one for him. The "rebellion bill" requires him to ask for and secure yet another temporary ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Warning! Warning! Danger Jacinda Ardern! Danger Marama Davidson! Warning!
    Lost In Political Space: The most important takeaway from this latest Labour sexual assault scandal, which (if I may paraphrase Nixon’s White House counsel’s, John Dean’s, infamous description of Watergate) is “growing like a cancer” on the premiership, is the Labour Party organisation’s extraordinary professional paralysis in the face of ...
    2 weeks ago

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