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Spying on China

Written By: - Date published: 8:37 am, April 19th, 2015 - 100 comments
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The latest in the Snowden / GCSB spying leaks, as emerging in The Herald:

Leaked papers reveal NZ plan to spy on China for US

Our spies and America’s top government hackers cooked up a plan to crack into a data link between Chinese Government buildings in Auckland, new Edward Snowden documents reveal.

The project appeared aimed at tapping data flowing between the Chinese consulate and its passport office in Great South Rd — and using the link to access China’s computer systems.

One of the source documents included appears to show that “Phase 1” was completed.

In the case of spying on Korea Key claimed that they wouldn’t care:

Mr Key says the Koreans simply do not care, “because they wouldn’t give a monkey’s and they probably wouldn’t believe it”.

He can’t play that nonsense card in the case of China – from the Herald piece again:

The revelation is the most explosive of the information about New Zealand revealed in the Snowden documents — and has sparked a firm Chinese diplomatic response giving rise to concerns our security relationship with the United States is impacting our trade relationship with China.

A Chinese Embassy spokesman told the Herald on Sunday: “China is concerned about relevant report. We attach great importance to the cybersecurity issue.

See further analysis from Hager and Gallagher.

So, great, now we can add China to the growing list of countries that are pissed off with us. What could possibly go wrong?

100 comments on “Spying on China”

  1. Paul 1

    What a bunch of incompetent clowns.
    Pity we didn’t fire the lot of them in 2014.

    Actually pity they were ever hired.

    Wake up New Zealand these guys do NOT care about you.

  2. ianmac 2

    Whilst the GCSB is not we are told, spying in NZ what is there to stop other 5Eyes from spying on us and in return we spy on them then swap information gleaned. That way the PM can say hand on heart that the GCSB is not spying on NZers. Simple.
    The Chinese might retaliate with Trade sanctions. The dairy industry might be concerned?

    • Paul 2.1

      There is clearly a lot of milk about. They could easily buy elsewhere.
      Maybe some National supporting farmers might start to realise that this government does not put their interests as high as they say they do.

      Key worked for Merrill Lynch and big US banking interests.
      He still does.

      • Draco T Bastard 2.1.1

        There is clearly a lot of milk about. They could easily buy elsewhere.

        Give the Chinese time and they’ll outstrip us in milk production and export as well. Same as the US is doing already (I really have NFI why people think that the US is ever going to be a market for our agricultural produce). Agriculture is not how you develop a nations economy.

    • weka 2.2

      trade sanctions on milk exports is probably one of the better things that could happen at this point.

  3. Penny Bright 3

    How is it LAWFUL for the GCSB be involved in the alleged planned spying on Chinese Consulate diplomatic communications?

    How ‘two-faced’ is ex-Wall Street banker, ‘smiling assassin’ NZ Prime Minister John Key?

    Whose interests was / is NZ Prime Minister John Key serving, as the (then) Minister responsible for the GCSB, in the alleged planned spying on China – NZ’s major trading partner?

    The New Zealand public or U$A corporate interests?

    Surely the issue is not (again) HOW these leaked documents were obtained – but whether or not they are FACTUALLY ACCURATE??

    Penny Bright

    http://www.pennybright4mayor.org.nz

    • Paul 3.1

      Penny, it is clear that Key still works for Wall Street.

      • Murray Simmonds 3.1.1

        In answer to the concluding sentence in Anthony Robins’ post:
        ” What could possibly go wrong? ”

        Well the worst thing that could possibly go wrong is that this bunch of diplomatically dense, myopic clowns (who kid themselves that they are successfully running to country according to plan) could get re-elected for yet another term if we are not careful . . . .

        And ‘according to plan’ in the above statement of course means “according to Uncle Sam’s plan”.

      • mary_a 3.1.2

        @ Paul (3.1) Yes, Wall Street. And Washington. One and the same? Possibly.

        Doesn’t matter because one thing is definite, Key does NOT work in the best interests of NZ and Kiwis!

        Key’s spying activities on amiable nations, is not keeping us on an even keel throughout the international community. When more of this leaks out and becomes common knowledge, NZ will find itself under suspicion and isolated. And Key will be gone, lucratively paid off for his treason towards his homeland.

        Key is more of a threat to NZ than any outside terrorist could ever be.

        Wake up Kiwis!

        • Draco T Bastard 3.1.2.1

          Key is more of a threat to NZ than any outside terrorist could ever be.

          QFT

          And that also includes the entire National Party as they support their leader.

  4. david 4

    The government has plenty of ways to duck out of this: say they can’t remember; blame it on out of control bureaucrats; launch an enquiry; or blame it on the Greens.

    • BassGuy 4.1

      Don’t forget “Labour did it, too!”

    • mickysavage 4.2

      I don’t think they can claim they did not know. Section 8B of the GCSB Act says:

      8B Intelligence gathering and analysis
      (1) This function of the Bureau is—
      (a) to gather and analyse intelligence (including from information infrastructures) in accordance with the Government’s requirements about the capabilities, intentions, and activities of foreign persons and foreign organisations; and
      (b) to gather and analyse intelligence about information infrastructures; and
      (c) to provide any intelligence gathered and any analysis of the intelligence to—
      (i) the Minister …

      Presuming intelligence was collected Key must have been told.

      http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/2003/0009/latest/DLM5647924.html

      • dukeofurl 4.2.1

        As well the PM ( or minister) has legal authority to know operational matters for GCSB that isnt normally available for routine government departments.

        I can imagine the chinese having taken particular care over the coms between the two different buildings.
        The consulate is a building on its own site, which I presume they would own, while the visa office is down the road in an office park.
        Maybe they had noticed the attempted intrusion and could rely on line of sight comms from then on.

  5. ianmac 5

    Note that the Herald has slipped the online story down the page to be sandwiched between a story about heavy rain and one about a cricketer taking his kids to a takeway. Priorities?

    • dukeofurl 5.1

      Thats what happens automatically on online versions.
      It may have different stories up top depending on your history or if you have looked at the story in question

      • Lanthanide 5.1.1

        Yes, but they can also choose to promote a story to the top. Clearly they have not chosen to do that in this case.

  6. Sanctuary 6

    The essential contradiction of NZ foreign policy is it’s desire to trade with Chinabut fight with America. We just about manage to pull it off, but when a sycophantically pro-American like Key is in charge the balance is lost.

    Wait for an obscure change in health regulations leaving tons of our exports on their wharves while China “apologetically” tries to work it through with our officials.

  7. saveNZ 7

    It’s pretty simple to see NZ government has put NZ into an extremely dangerous position.

    They are absolute MORONS. I mean we already knew that but it keeps getting worse.

    They seem incapable of saying NO to either US or China and therefore endangering the relationship with both and screwing our country up permanently. They also are in breach of international law, good will etc.

    Somehow we are now owned or indebted to, two rival superpowers both internally and externally.

    Will this nightmare government ever end?

    If they just have one pinch of common sense and spine to do what is right morally and for the people of this country they would not have got caught up with illegal spying for the US or selling our country off to non resident foreign owners and would not have put NZ in this position.

  8. Colonial Rawshark 8

    There’s no problem, I think someone’s knighthood is now pretty secure.

  9. adam 9

    Dear Chinese government,

    The New Zealand government is a nasty, vindictive, amoral piece of work. They worship at the alter of cupidity, and are sycophants to wall street, all. It is doubtful these epigone to Washington could organise a piss up in a brewery – just look at our economy.

    Our Prime Minister is a hubristic fool, prone to vainglorious moments – on a much too regular basis. This is the opprobrium of being closely associated with gangsters, like the USA corporations.

    That said, I think you understand, we the people who live here, are really not responsible. We had a lot of propaganda, and indeed some real dirty politics so these politicians could stay in power. Maybe that the real problem – we the people don’t run our country. Because if we did – we would not bother spying on you – that would be to much effort.

    So please, please, please don’t stop sending the flat screens. We won’t question the daily suicides in your factories again. And please, most of all, just remember when you play games of state – you will always get people like, John Key.

    • Bill 9.1

      Excellent! 🙂

    • Tracey 9.2

      china are not saints. their wealthy are getting wealthy on the back of human rights abuses and exploiting working conditions. i get what you are saying but like attracts like. keys ethics are mirrored in who he grovels to. the dollar. no matter how bloodstained it is. he insulated himself from it by getting someone else to clean it off before he pockets it.

    • Once was+Tim 9.3

      PS Dear China,
      Do you mind if we adopt your solution to the problem of corrupt politicians and officials?

    • cogito 9.4

      🙂 🙂

      But, personally, I have no time at all for the Chinese, their corrupt communist dictatorship, their repression of the Hong Kong democratic movement, their abysmal record on human rights, their criminal drug activities in NZ, their financial invasion of NZ land, properties and businesses…. As for their flat screen tvs – they can keep them.

      • Once was Tim 9.4.1

        Agreed. But can we import the firing squads for corrupt officials and politicians? They’ll be a lot more ‘seemly’ and less upsetting for the littluns than corpses hanging from lamposts when the inevitable happens if we continue to persue the direction we’re heading. We seem to have lost the ‘learnings’ from history, and even ‘understandings’ of basic mathematics (the 99% up against the 1).
        (Like those pesky split hairs and the Pantene solution – it won’t happen overnight, but it WILL happen – royalties to Rod’s ex; GST to IRD)

    • Draco T Bastard 9.5

      That said, I think you understand, we the people who live here, are really not responsible.

      Actually, we are because we voted the fuckers in. What you say here is a good example of the disassociation that comes with Representative Democracy. It allows people to say the government did this, the government did that and it’s not what I wanted thus it’s not my responsibility. This is complete bollocks. We are the government and parliament is working for us and if it’s not doing what we want then we need to get rid of it.

      Personally, I think we need to change the system because of the faults that it has. It really is more of an elected dictatorship than democracy and it was purposefully set up that way so as to prevent the people actually governing themselves.

      • Once was Tim 9.5.1

        …..”It really is more of an elected dictatorship than democracy…”
        ain’t that the truth!. I think there’s been a sort of cultural shift (part of the I I I me me me culture in fact) where the winner takes all.
        MMP went part of the way to fixing the FPP fuckup but many still think in FPP terms.
        As Kelsey noted in one of her early books, at least MMP reigned in treasury to a degree because they found themselves having to negotiate and compromise a little. That’s not to say they haven’t now figured out other ways of pushing their barrow.
        How can we fix this ‘elected dictatorship’? – I’d be interested in your thoughts @DracotBastard (knowing of course you’re a hard left wing kinsprissy thereist pink commie bastard).
        I’d like to see some sort of upper house or mechanism providing the powers of veto (such as a ‘senate’ for want of a better word, that’s comprised of elected local/regional council reps) – at least some means of localising/regionalising reps….. along with things such as term limits, and as someone in here once suggested – a 3 year time limit on any legislation passed under urgency.

        • Draco T Bastard 9.5.1.1

          How can we fix this ‘elected dictatorship’?

          Progressively shift to a more referendum driven policy development and passage. That will, IMO, require online voting and a reduction in working hours from our excessively high working week.

          I’d like to see some sort of upper house or mechanism providing the powers of veto (such as a ‘senate’ for want of a better word, that’s comprised of elected local/regional council reps)

          The US and the UK have one of those. It hasn’t made anything better. When both houses are dominated by the same parties then the upper house merely becomes a rubber stamp and when the houses oppose each other the upper house becomes a restriction preventing law changes no matter how necessary.

  10. Murray Simmonds 10

    ‘. . . .desire to trade with China but fight with America.”

    Unfortunately its not just “fight with America”. Its also bend over backwards to meet their every whim and desire.

    The Pan Pacific Trade agreement shows just how determined the big USA corporates and multinationals are to dominate global market share at all costs.

    Including in our case the cost of our sovereignty and our right to determine our own economic direction in the world.

    And this idiot government just can’t wait to sign us up to it.

  11. Colonial Rawshark 11

    Listen to this useless so-called academic from Victoria University in the Herald article. Apparently policy making is not an area of government which is helped by “public scrutiny”:

    Victoria University’s Dr Jim Rolfe, director of its Centre for Security Studies, said there were areas of government which were not helped by public scrutiny.

    He said the Snowden revelations had produced benefits in revealing over-reach in some intelligence operations, although “90 per cent of it is prurient”.

    “I suspect things have been hurt rather than helped by Snowden because it has distracted policy makers from their work.”

    I’d like Jim Rolfe to come forward and point to the 90% of Snowden’s revelations which are “prurient.” What a dick. Sounds like he has been too closely linked to the establishment for far too long. Especially considering that the Snowden relevations have been very carefully selected and reported on by Glenn Greenwald, the Guardian, the New York Times, the Washington Post and other leading media exactly for their relevance to democracy and accountability (or the lack of it) behind the activities and technologies of our spy services. But lets worry more about his high up unaccountable policy maker friends being “distracted” by Snowden’s revelations.

    The irony is that it was the deep state PR machine which put out all the stories out there about Snowden being “attention seeking”, “narcissistic”, a “high school drop out”, having failed his military training etc. Now that was really “prurient.” Didn’t see him criticising the establishment PR though.

    • Tracey 11.1

      he means most people are too dumb to cope with knowledge. a few selected bright sparks, like him for example, know what is best for us lower beings. k?

      • Colonial Rawshark 11.1.1

        So much for our academic institutions highlighting abuses of power and holding the establishment to account.

        • Bill 11.1.1.1

          Outside of a short time around the 60s, when did they as institutions ‘highlight abuses of power’ or ‘hold the establishment to account’? They are the establishment.

          Whenever I think of ‘academic institutions’ I remember my grandfather telling me that it was university students who ran the trams during the 1926 General Strike. And then I reflect that those ‘academic institutions’ are becoming more and more the preserve of the monied and privileged these days…conservative and reactionary…at least in NZ.

          • Tracey 11.1.1.1.1

            you mean like professor jane kelsey

            canty students mobilising post quake. i dont recall vice chancellors ever speaking except to want more money that they had already spent… academics always spoke out tho… less now than then but they do speak out

            • Colonial Rawshark 11.1.1.1.1.1

              She’s literally a one in a thousand out of all the PhD types that the state employs, and you know it.

              • Murray Rawshark

                Hey. I’m a PhD type employed by the (Australian) state. I speak out, but quantum physics doesn’t have as much relevance as Jane’s work. I do suspect the Chinese will be moving to quantum cryptography for any diplomatic traffic within Aotearoa though. It’s not only unbreakable, but you know when someone’s tried.

    • dukeofurl 11.2

      This is his bio. Work out if he independent or not ?

      Rolfe has had a career in both the public and university sector. He started his working life in the New Zealand Army, moved to the Department of Prime Minister and Cabinet as a policy adviser dealing with a range of security issues and completed his PhD while there. He was Deputy Director of the Centre for Security Studies and Associate Director of the Master of International Relations Programme at VUW in the period 1991-2001. Rolfe then moved to the United States as an Associate Professor of International Relations at the Asia-Pacific Center for Security Studies for six years. He returned to the Ministry of Defence where he was Principal Adviser, Strategic Policy for several years and from where he was seconded to the Australian Civil-Military Centre as Deputy Director.

      he may even be a ‘recruiter’ for the security services from amoung the graduate students.

      Its a bit like asking the police Union to comment on some situation- you know the approach they will have

    • Murray Rawshark 11.3

      Dr Jim Rolfe is an ex-Army major who worked with Bananarama in Fiji and has had a position at a security think tank in the US and A. He’s as Kiwi as FJK.

  12. Tracey 12

    we spy on our friends to get a business advantage we spy on our enemies to fuck up our business advantage

  13. The Murphey 13

    Q. Remember the protracted and numerous accusations against Huawei ?

    • Lloyd 13.1

      The irony is that Huawei manufactured exchanges are most likely tapping GCSB and that they are listening to what GCSB has extracted out of the Chinese land-line…….

  14. fisiani 14

    China is spying on NZ. We still trade with China and they with us. Another failed attempt to somehow smear Honest John.

    • Stuart Munro 14.1

      Yup right – it’s pretty hard to further soil the image of an oozy turd like John Key.

    • Colonial Rawshark 14.2

      China is spying on NZ. We still trade with China and they with us. Another failed attempt to somehow smear Honest John.

      So the damage to our (false) position as honest brokers is irrelevant to you? Sad, fisi, just sad.

      • felix 14.2.1

        Guys like Key and even little fisiani don’t really have to get to grips with words like “honest”.

        It’s just a word, like “fact” or “actually” or “reality”, they’re all just words and depending what you use them for they can mean anything really.

        “Honest” might just mean “good at golf” for all we know.

        • Gosman 14.2.1.1

          Why do you think we are some sort of neutral honest broker?

          • felix 14.2.1.1.1

            I didn’t say we were.

            However successive governments of all stripes have talked up our “independent foreign policy” and our international reputation as an “honest broker”.

            You only have to go back as far as the current govt’s statements on our recent appointment to the UNSC to find examples of both.

            As it turns out neither are true as we spy for the U.S. on our friends, neighbours and trading partners around the world.

    • Draco T Bastard 14.3

      Have you actually got proof of that or are you just going with the BS lines from Crosby/Textor/National Party HQ?

    • BassGuy 14.4

      It’s not a smear if he actually was involved in it, now is it?

    • Fran 14.5

      Best satirical comments everytime fisiani. I don’t know why so many people think you are serious, your comments are so out there they must be satire.

    • keyman 14.6

      all these left wing clowns have no idea how the world works ,john key is working for new zealand and all these people want to do is run our great leader down.

    • keyman2 14.7

      china will not care the important thing is John key is out doing it for new Zealand

  15. Penny Bright 15

    NEW ZEALAND PLOTTED HACK ON CHINA WITH NSA

    https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/04/18/new-zealand-china-gcsb-nsa-auckland-hack/

    “New Zealand spies teamed with National Security Agency hackers to break into a data link in the country’s largest city, Auckland, as part of a secret plan to eavesdrop on Chinese diplomats, documents reveal.

    The covert operation, reported Saturday by New Zealand’s Herald on Sunday in collaboration with The Intercept, highlights the contrast between New Zealand’s public and secret approaches to its relationship with China, its largest and most important trading partner.

    The hacking project suggests that New Zealand’s electronic surveillance agency, Government Communications Security Bureau, or GCSB, may have violated international treaties that prohibit the interception of diplomatic communications.

    New Zealand has signed both the 1961 Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations and the 1963 Vienna Convention on Consular Relations, international treaties that protect the “inviolability” of diplomatic correspondance. The country’s prime minister, John Key, said in a recent speech on security that New Zealand had an obligation to support the rule of law internationally, and was “known for its integrity, reliability and independence.”
    ______________________________________________________________________________________

    So – how LAWFUL was this planned spying on Chinese diplomats in New Zealand?

    Looks like the Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security may have yet ANOTHER ‘inquiry’ on her hands?

    (I know the ‘spin’ will focus on HOW these documents were obtained, rather than their FACTUAL ACCURACY?)

    Penny Bright

    http://www.pennybright4mayor.org.nz

  16. Wayne 16

    Penny,

    You simply have no idea what you are talking about.

    Last time I checked China was a foreign country. And that is what GCSB primarily does, spy on foreign countries. It is specifically what it was set up for.

    China is hardly going to be surprised by this “revelation”, and apart from proforma protest will do nothing.

    • Colonial Rawshark 16.1

      China is hardly going to be surprised by this “revelation”, and apart from proforma protest will do nothing.

      So we recently decide to systematically violate the sanctity of their diplomatic communications on US orders, and despite this change in our posture towards them, China will simply shrug its shoulders? LOL

    • McFlock 16.2

      China might hardly be surprised, but I will hardly be surprised if some of our more perishable exports have “customs misunderstandings” in the next few months.

      Just a little smack to keep us in line.

      • emergency mike 16.2.1

        That was my first thought about this also. Expect a correction to Chinese requirements for NZ imports in the not too distant future.

    • Murray Rawshark 16.3

      Jeez Wayne, can you tell us about the Vienna Conventions on diplomatic communications? It’s also probable that Kiwis applying for visas were being spied on. That’s another breach of our own laws.

      While I’m happy you’re out of parliament, I fear that whoever replaced you probably has the same flexible ethics.

    • Pascals bookie 16.4

      So why bother keeping it all secret then Wayne?

      Actual question there. I mean, what’s the point in keeping it all secret if everyone knows?

  17. McFlock 17

    NZ is a small state geopolitically. We need to straddle the gulf between the larger powers and strengthen inter-governmental diplomatic organisations, not become a client state of one or the other – that weakens our position with both.

    It’s one thing to openly assist the US against 4th parties, but directly and covertly assisting the US (which is possibly entering a decline phase) against another superpower is a bullshit move that would likely have MFaT officials headdesking.

    • cogito 17.1

      As a small state geopolitically, NZ would do well to decide who its friends are and then behave accordingly.

      • McFlock 17.1.1

        States don’t have friends. Just “stateswho aren’t working to attack us”, “states who are probably working towards attacking us”, “states we will protect to serve our own interests while extracting as much as possible from the arrangement”, and “states who are serving their own interests by protecting us while extracting as much as possible from the arrangement”.

        Basically, our objective would be to maintain as much independence as possible, rather than being overcome or ceding our sovreignty to another nation.

        • cogito 17.1.1.1

          “States don’t have friends”

          Yes they do.

          • McFlock 17.1.1.1.1

            Only in the shallowest “nice if I can get something out of it, drop you like a hot potato if you don’t give me a port of convenience for my nuclear-armed vessels” sense of the word.

            The sort of “friendship” one sees between sociopaths or drunk teenagers.

      • Colonial Rawshark 17.1.2

        Then make sure you pick friends which are on the ascendance, not friends whose fortunes are on the wane.

  18. Penny Bright 18

    So you don’t believe in the ‘Rule of Law’ Wayne?

    Penny Bright

    • adam 18.1

      What ‘rule of law ‘Penny?

      Laws, good people don’t need them, and the bad will just break them.

      To many of our so called laws – uphold bad peoples virtues – like the reserve bank act, or that little nugget which brought us the super city.

  19. Sable 19

    Utter bunch of screw ups. Well done Shonkey. Now the country with the fastest economic growth on earth is ticked off with us. Whilst the sad defunct USA with 18 trillion in debt is our friend……Well done…..

  20. keyman 20

    you clowns don’t know what your taking about all countries spy nothing to see here no smoking gun move on

  21. Murray Rawshark 21

    This is the sort of thing that could see China cutting off diplomatic relations. It seems clear that it violates the Vienna conventions. I’d laugh if FJK visited China and got arrested. At least his family could afford to pay for the bullet.
    And Dr. Jim Rolfe seems to be a total moron.

  22. dave 22

    i sort hope china is pissed

  23. infused 23

    You guys should do a little bit of research on China’s spy ops, mainly cyber related.

    All this tells me is you guys are completely clueless.

    Here’s a tip. Go do some research on a company called Nortel and follow the bread crumbs. Your faux outrage is hilarious.

    • Colonial Viper 23.1

      maybe you think our intelligence services should be poodles at the beck and call of the NSA even against our own interests, but not everyone else does.

    • Draco T Bastard 23.2

      It’s one of those points that the right-wing just don’t seem to get: Just because someone else engages in immoral behaviour doesn’t give us carte blanche to do the same. Also known as: Two wrongs don’t make a right.

      We need to protect ourselves from their spying and call it out when we catch them but not actually engage in spying on them.

    • emergency mike 23.3

      Here’s a tip infused. If you read the OP you’ll find it’s about our spies spying on China, possibly in breach of an international treaty that we’ve signed up to.

      You seem to be concerned about China’s spying operations. Don’t sweat it, easy mistake I’m sure. Perhaps you could write a letter to the Chinese embassy about it? Or maybe become a Chinese citizen and vote against the Chinese Communist Party at the next election? Let us know what you decide to do and how it goes.

      I know you’re not pulling the old ‘but they did it too’ excuse for your mate John’s risky and rude treatment of one of our biggest trading partner’s representative guests in our country. Primary school kids don’t get away with that one. So that would be idiotic of you.

      Just like ol’ Honest John’s weekly “Labour did it too” and “Helen Clark did worse” lines for his weekly fuck up. They seem to go down a treat with the idiotic. Some of them even come around here and proudly, obediently, repeat them, apparently completely unaware how fucking idiotic it makes them look.

    • Pascals bookie 23.4

      lol Infused.

      last time you followed breadcrumbs you reported back that there would be a full scale war on the Korean peninsula within ten days, and Iran would attack Israel, or some shit.

      • infused 23.4.1

        Hey, we were close.

        This has already happened. Years ago, and explains many other cyber related spying issues in the process.

        • Pascals bookie 23.4.1.1

          No we were not close.

          You said a bunch of things were going to happen on account of your superior knowledge gleaned from deleted internet posts.

          A bunch of other people laughed at you said ‘no it won’t; you’re full of shit’

          Turned out those other people were correct.

  24. One Anonymous+Bloke 24

    The official response makes for ‘interesting’ reading.

    The Chinese Embassy in New Zealand issued a statement Sunday, saying that China was concerned about the report and attached great importance to the cyber security issue.

    “We will firmly safeguard our security interests and continue to guarantee our cyber and information security with concrete measures,” said the statement.

    “At present, cyber space is riddled with chaos and uncertainty. China proposes to settle disputes through dialogue and formulate codes to regulate cyber space behaviors that are acceptable to all sides.”

    Chaos and uncertainty, eh? Sounds quite inharmonious.

  25. Gosman 25

    Guess what guys. China spies on us as well. Shock Horror!

    • One Anonymous+Bloke 25.1

      The difference being that they’re in a position to do something about it, and we, um, aren’t.

      The story is high on the page. The National Party’s owner/donors will be nervous about the potential for a consumer boycott. “We won’t open all your mail” will be a great point of difference their competitors can exploit.

    • Sable 25.2

      The real question is why are we not fostering closer relations with China? Instead of backing the defunct USA?

      • cogito 25.2.1

        Judging by Auckland these days, I would say that we are. The Chinese already own our businesses and houses, won’t be long before they’re in our beds and we’re reciting passages from Chairman Mao’s little red book…. in Mandarin.

  26. Instauration 26

    MITM – LOL

    588 Great South Road – CONSULATE-GENERAL OF THE PEOPLE’S REPUBLIC OF CHINA IN AUCKLAND

    600 Great South Road – Endace Measurement Systems Limited – http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/8859155/NZ-firm-linked-to-suspect-spy-row

    630 Great South Road – CONSULATE-GENERAL OF THE PEOPLE’S REPUBLIC OF CHINA IN AUCKLAND Visa Office

    Follow the unstamped duct covers – dark fibre below.

    MEET-ME At Your Riser

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    NZ First seems to be nakedly trying to enrich itself from public office:A powerful New Zealand First figure helped establish a forestry company that then pushed for money from two key funding streams controlled by a New Zealand First Minister. An RNZ investigation has found Brian Henry, lawyer for Winston ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 hours ago
  • Escape from Manus Island
    Behrouz Boochani is an award winning author and journalist. He is also a refugee, who for the past six years has been detained in Australia's offshore gulag on Manus Island, and in Papua New Guinea. But last night, with the cooperation of the WORD Christchurch festival and Amnesty International, he ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 hours ago
  • When World’s Collide.
    Different Strokes: If a multicultural immigration policy imposes no obligation on immigrant communities to acknowledge and ultimately embrace their host nation’s most cherished traditions and values, then how is that nation to prevent itself from being reduced to a collection of inward-looking and self-replicating ethnic and cultural enclaves?THE COALITION GOVERNMENT’S ...
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  • Could There Be Method In Massey University’s Madness?
    Protective Zone: Reading the rules and guidelines released by Massey University, it is impossible to avoid the conclusion that its governing body considers the whole concept of free speech a disruptive threat to the orderly imparting of orthodox academic knowledge.IN TRUE ORWELLIAN fashion, Massey University has announced its commitment to ...
    9 hours ago
  • Climate Change: We need more trees, not less
    Farmers held a hate-march on Parliament today, complete with MAGA hats, gun-nut signs, and gendered insults. While supposedly about a grab-bag of issues - including, weirdly, mental health - it was clear that the protest was about one thing, and one thing only: climate change. And specifically, forestry "destroying" rural ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    23 hours ago
  • The IGIS annual report: Dead letters and secret law
    The Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security released their annual report today, and I've been busy reading through it. In amongst the usual review of what they've been doing all year, there's a few interesting bits. For example, a discussion on "agency retention and disposal of information", which points out that ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 day ago
  • A referendum on bigotry
    The End of Life Choice Bill passed its third reading last night, 69 - 51. Thanks to a compromise with NZ First - which looks to have been necessary on the final numbers - the commencement of the bill will be subject to a referendum. Given the ugliness of the ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 day ago
  • Political parties and GMOs: we all need to move on
    Recently more than 150 post-graduate students and young scientists presented an open letter to the Green Party via The Spinoff, encouraging them to reconsider their position on genetic modification. Their target is tackling climate change issues.[1] Can any party continue to be dismissive about genetic modification (GM) contributing to ...
    SciBlogsBy Grant Jacobs
    1 day ago
  • Class, Identity Politics and Transgender Ideology
    by Deirdre O’Neill Under Thatcher and then Blair and continuing up until our contemporary moment, the working class has seen its culture slowly and progressively destroyed. The change from an industrial society to a service society produced a marked shift in focus from the working class as the backbone of ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    2 days ago
  • Irony
    Since 2013, the Australian government has detained refugees without trial in Pacific gulags, where they are abused, tortured, and driven to suicide. The policy is not just an abuse of human rights and possible crime against humanity; it has also had a corrosive effect on the states Australia uses as ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago
  • An age of protest.
    It seems fair to say that we currently live in a problematic political moment in world history. Democracies are in decline and dictatorships are on the rise. Primordial, sectarian and post-modern divisions have re-emerged, are on the rise or have been accentuated by political evolutions of the moment such as ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    2 days ago
  • Another captured agency
    Last month, Greenpeace head Russel Norman surrendered his speaking slot at an EPA conference to student climate activist Sorcha Carr, who told the EPA exactly what she thought of them. It was a bold move, which confronted both regulators and polluters (or, as the EPA calls them, "stakeholders") with the ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago
  • NZ First’s dodgy loans
    The core principle supposedly underlying New Zealand's electoral finance regime is transparency: parties can accept large donations from rich people wanting to buy policy, but only if they tell the public they've been bought. Most parties abide by this, so we know that TOP was wholly-owned by Gareth Morgan, and ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago
  • Member’s Day: The choice on End of Life Choice
    Today is a Member's Day, probably the second-to-last one of the year, and its a big one, with the Third Reading of David Seymour's End of Life Choice Bill. last Member's Day it was reported back from committee, after MPs voted narrowly to make it subject to a (rules TBA) ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago
  • How growth in population and consumption drives planetary change
    Climate Explained is a collaboration between The Conversation, Stuff and the New Zealand Science Media Centre to answer your questions about climate change. If you have a question you’d like an expert to answer, please send it to climate.change@stuff.co.nz The growth of the human population over the last 70 ...
    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    2 days ago
  • The disappearing Women …
    by The Council of Disobedient Women In her excellent oral submission to the Abortion reform select committee on 31st October on behalf of Otago University’s Department of Public Health, historian and public health researcher Hera Cook stated: “We would ask that the committee not use the term ‘pregnant persons’ and ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    3 days ago
  • “A Passage to India”: enduring art in changing times
    by Don Franks In 1957, E M Forster wrote, of his greatest work: “The India described in ‘A Passage to India’ no longer exists either politically or socially. Change had begun even at the time the book was published ( 1924) and during the following quarter of a century it ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    3 days ago
  • Contemptuous
    The Referendums Framework Bill was due back from select committee today. But there's no report on it. Instead, the bill has been bounced back to the House under Standing order 29593) because the Committee didn't bother to produce one. They probably tried. But given the membership of the committee (which ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago
  • Zero Carbon: It’s not just a good idea, it’s the law
    Two years into New Zealand’s Labour-led government, the long-delayed Zero Carbon Bill became law on 7 November. Passed essentially unanimously, the lengthy public debates and political manoeuvring faded away until the final passage was even anticlimactic: Flipping through the @nzstuff @DomPost I was starting to wonder if I’d dreamt ...
    SciBlogsBy Robert McLachlan
    3 days ago
  • Climate Change: What happens next?
    Now the Zero Carbon Bill is law, what's next? Obviously, the ETS changes currently before select committee are going to be the next battleground. But we're also going to get a good idea of where we're going, and if the progress the Zero Carbon Act promises is good enough, during ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago
  • Climate change will fuel bush fires
    Grant Pearce The effects of the current Australian bushfires in New South Wales and Queensland (and also again in California) are devastating and far-reaching. To date, the fires have resulted in several lives being lost and many homes and properties destroyed. Here in New Zealand, the impacts have been only ...
    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    3 days ago
  • Participation rates
    A passing comment in a post the other day about the labour force participation rates of older people prompted me to pull down the fuller data and see what we could see about various participation rates over the decades since the HLFS began in 1986.   As it happens, the ...
    SciBlogsBy Michael Reddell
    3 days ago
  • Not So Much “OK Boomer” As “OK Ruling Class”.
    Distract And Divert: The rise of what we have come to call “Identity Politics” represents the ideological manifestation of the ruling class’s objective need to destroy class politics, and of the middle-class’s subjective need to justify their participation in the process.THE RELIEF of the ruling class can only be imagined. ...
    3 days ago
  • Asking for it …
    "I saw a newspaper picture,From the political campaignA woman was kissing a child,Who was obviously in pain.She spills with compassion,As that young child'sFace in her hands she gripsCan you imagine all that greed and avariceComing down on that child's lips?" ...
    3 days ago
  • New Zealand’s Poor Pandemic Preparedness According to the Global Health Security Index
    Dr Matt Boyd, Prof Michael Baker, Prof Nick Wilson The Global Health Security Index which considers pandemic threats has just been published. Unfortunately, NZ scores approximately half marks (54/100), coming in 35th in the world rankings – far behind Australia. This poor result suggests that the NZ Government needs to ...
    SciBlogsBy Public Health Expert
    4 days ago
  • Climate Change: Thank Winston
    The Zero Carbon Act is inadequate, with a weak methane target designed to give farmers a free ride. But it turns out it could have been worse: Climate Change Minister James Shaw was so desperate to get National on board, he wanted to gut that target, and leave it in ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • Illicit markets and Bali Booze
    The Herald reprints an Australian story on a couple of tragic deaths in Bali from drinking cocktails that had methanol in them.  The story argues that methanol is likely the result of home distillation. But what the young tourists were experiencing was far from a hangover. They’d consumed a toxic cocktail ...
    SciBlogsBy Eric Crampton
    4 days ago
  • This is not what armed police are for
    Last month, the police announced a trial of specialist roaming armed units, which would drive round (poor, brown) areas in armoured SUVs, armed to the teeth. When they announced the trial, they told us it was about having armed police "ready to attend major incidents at any time if needed". ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • Spain’s failed electoral gamble
    Spain went to the polls today in the second elections this year, after the Socialists (who had come to power in a confidence vote, then gone to the polls in April) rejected the offer of a coalition with the left-wing PoDemos, and instead decided to gamble n a better outcome ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • The astroturf party
    National has finally rolled out its "BlueGreen" astroturf party, fronted by an array of former nats and people who were dumped by the Greens for not being Green enough. Its initial pitch is described by Stuff as "very business-friendly", and its priorities are what you'd expect: conservation, predator-free funding, a ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • How to cheat at university
    A couple of days ago I attended (and spoke at) the University of Waikato’s “LearnFest” event. There were lots of talks and sessions on very diverse aspects of teaching, mostly at tertiary level. One was by Myra Williamson from Te Piringa Faculty of Law here at Waikato, on Contract Cheating ...
    SciBlogsBy Marcus Wilson
    4 days ago
  • How NZ was put on world maps using a transit of Mercury
    There will be a transit of Mercury – the planet Mercury will pass across the face of the Sun – taking place at sunrise in New Zealand on Tuesday, 12th November. It was by observing such an event 250 years ago that James Cook and his scientist colleagues were able ...
    SciBlogsBy Duncan Steel
    5 days ago
  • Georgina Beyer: We need to be able to talk without being offended
    Since becoming the world’s first openly transexual mayor and member of parliament, Georgina Beyer has been recognised as a trailblazer for trans rights. Daphna Whitmore talks with her about where she sees the current trans movement We start out talking about legislation the government put on hold that would have ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    5 days ago
  • The anti-fluoride brigade won’t be erecting billboards about this study
    If FFNZ really put their faith in “Top Medical Journals” they would now be amending their billboards to recognise new research results. Image from FFNZ but updated to agree with the latest research. ...
    5 days ago
  • Chosen To Rule? What Sort Of Christian Is Chris Luxon?
    National Messiah? Chris Luxon identifies himself as an evangelical Christian. If he is genuine in this self-characterisation, then he will take every opportunity his public office provides to proselytise on behalf of his faith. He will also feel obliged to bear witness against beliefs and practices he believes to be ...
    5 days ago
  • War of the worms
    I'm going to make a Reckless Prediction™ that the Tories have 'topped out' in the 'poll of polls' / Britain Elects multipoll tracker at about 38%, and in the next week we will start to see Labour creep up on them.In fact, we might just be seeing the start of ...
    5 days ago
  • Marvelly shows us how to be a feminist without feminism
    by The Council of Disobedient Women Lizzie Marvelly: “I may have missed this… has @afterellen gone all terf-y? Or am I reading something incorrectly? “ https://twitter.com/LizzieMarvelly/status/1191840059105742849 After Ellen is a lesbian website that is unashamedly pro-lesbian, as you’d expect. So why is Ms Marvelly so bothered about lesbians having their ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    6 days ago
  • Out of the past – Tories to revive racist laws from the 16th century
    Did you know there once was a time when it was illegal to be a gypsy (aka Romani) in Britain?That was between 1530, when the Egyptians Act was passed, and 1856, when it was repealed.Amongst other things, the act forbade the entry of 'Egyptians' into England, ordered those already there ...
    6 days ago
  • 1000 of these now
    Some days I sit and think, “what will I write…?” What do you say when you get to 1000 posts? Maybe you just start where you are, diverge to where this all began, then offer a collection of reader’s favourite posts, and a few of your own? (And throw in ...
    SciBlogsBy Grant Jacobs
    6 days ago
  • Has Shane Jones Just Saved NZ First?
    Counter-Puncher: The “activists” and “radicals” (his own words) from the Indian community who took such strong exception to Shane Jones’ remarks about Immigration NZ’s treatment of arranged marriages, may end up bitterly regretting their intervention. Jones is not the sort of person who turns the other cheek to his critics.SHANE ...
    6 days ago
  • Climate Change: As predicted
    Yesterday, when National voted for the Zero Carbon Bill, I predicted they'd gut it the moment they regained power, just as they had done to the ETS. And indeed, they have explicitly promised to do exactly that within their first hundred days in office. What would their amendments do? Abandon ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Let this never be forgot
    In the spirit of Remember, remember the fifth of November, let's keep this in mind FOREVER.
    Oh dear. Extraordinary interview on PM with Andrew Bridgen and @EvanHD just now. Bridgen was defending Jacob Rees Mogg’s Grenfell comments. Evan asked him if JRM had meant to say he would have left ...
    1 week ago
  • Too Late To Change Capitalism’s Flightpath?
    Collision Course? In conditions of ideological white-out, the international bankers’ “Woop-Woop! Pull Up!” warning may have come too late to save global capitalism.WHAT DOES IT MEAN when international bankers are more willing to embrace radical solutions than our politicians and their electors? At both the International Monetary Fund and the ...
    1 week ago
  • Whooping cough vaccine works well despite its imperfections
    Pertussis (whooping cough) is a conundrum. It is a disease that was described hundreds of years ago and the bacteria that causes it (Bordetella pertussis) isolated in 1906. We have had vaccines for about 80 years but this disease is defiant in the face of human immunity. I wanted to ...
    SciBlogsBy Helen Petousis Harris
    1 week ago
  • Climate Change: Passed
    The Zero Carbon Bill has just passed its third reading, uanimously. In the end, National supported it - but we all know they'll turn around and gut it the moment they regain power. Meanwhile, I guess ACT's David Seymour didn't even bother to show up. I am on record as ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Retailing of vaping products – New NZ Research
    Dr Lindsay Robertson, Dr Jerram Bateman, Professor Janet Hoek Members of the public health community hold divergent views on how access to vaping products or electronic nicotine delivery systems (ENDS) products should be arranged. Some believe ENDS should be as widely available as smoked tobacco and argue for liberal ...
    SciBlogsBy Public Health Expert
    1 week ago
  • Justice for Bomber
    When the Police were trying to cover up for the National Party over Dirty Politics, they went all-in with their abuses of power. They illegally search Nicky Hager's house, violating his journalistic privilege and invading his privacy. They unlawfully acquired Hager's bank records. They did the same to left-wing blogger ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Britain’s climate tyranny was unlawful
    Last month, in response to a wave of protests by Extinction Rebellion, the British government purported to ban their protests from the whole of London. It was a significant interference with the freedoms of expression and assembly, and another sign of the country's decline into tyranny. But now, a court ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • More crime from the spies
    Last year, the Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security reported on significant problems with the intelligence warrant system. While they were unwilling to declare any warrant "irregular" (meaning unlawful) due to the recent law change, they were also not willing to give the system a clean bill of health. Now, they've ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Vaccination, compulsion, and paternalism for the lower orders
    The National Party has come out in support of encouraging greater vaccination uptake. But it sure isn’t the way I’d do it. National’s suggested docking the benefits of those on benefit whose kids aren’t keeping up with their vaccinations. Some in National have suggested extending that to payments under Working ...
    SciBlogsBy Eric Crampton
    1 week ago
  • Global Protests Rage On: But Slogans Are Not Plans.
    Feeding The Flames: It is simply not enough to demand an end to “corruption”, or “inequality”, or the overbearing influence of the authorities in Beijing. These are just “lowest common denominator” demands: the sort of slogans that pull people onto the streets. They are not a plan.WHERE’S THE PLAN? Across ...
    1 week ago
  • 11,000 employed under Labour
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Boycott this democratic fraud
    The Foreign Affairs, Defence and Trade Committee has called for submissions on Andrew Little's tyrannical Terrorism Suppression (Control Orders) Bill. Normally I encourage participation in the democratic process. I am not doing so in this case. Instead, I encourage all of you to boycott this submissions process, and to post ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Why Mars is cold despite an atmosphere of mostly carbon dioxide
    Climate Explained is a collaboration between The Conversation, Stuff and the New Zealand Science Media Centre to answer your questions about climate change. If you have a question you’d like an expert to answer, please send it to climate.change@stuff.co.nz If tiny concentrations of carbon dioxide can hold enough heat ...
    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    1 week ago
  • Climate Change: Ban private jets
    Aviation is one of the fastest growing sources of greenhouse gas emissions, and within it, one of the fastest sources is elite travel: billionaires flitting around the world in their private jets, spewing excessive pollution into the atmosphere just so they can avoid mixing with us dirty peasants. But in ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Climate Change: Untold Suffering
    That's what we face if we don't stop climate change, according to a warning from 11,000 scientists:The world’s people face “untold suffering due to the climate crisis” unless there are major transformations to global society, according to a stark warning from more than 11,000 scientists. “We declare clearly and unequivocally ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • The left and violent misogyny
    by Phil Duncan Here’s just a few of the kind of threats issued day in and day out against gender-critical women – feminists, marxists, etc – overwhelmingly by MEN (albeit men identifying as women). “Kill all Terfs”. “Shoot a Terf today”. “All terfs deserve to be shot in the head”. ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    1 week ago
  • Imperialism and the iPhone
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    RedlineBy Admin
    1 week ago
  • The freshwater mussel housing crisis: eviction by invasive weeds?
    Tom Moore Traditionally a food source and cutting tool, freshwater mussels/kākahi are now widely valued as water filters that help clean our waterbodies and maintain ecosystem health throughout Aotearoa. The improvement they provide in water quality can make it easier for other animals to live in streams and rivers, as ...
    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    1 week ago
  • Back it up Luxon: endorsing the destructive past is not actually the way forward
    And to think he gave all the potential goodwill away with that moronic, cult-like statement (repeated ad nauseam by many National hardliners) that Key is quite simply “the greatest PM we ever had”… Installation complete: this was nothing ...
    exhALANtBy exhalantblog
    1 week ago
  • Good riddance
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Climate Change: D-Day
    The Zero Carbon Bill is back in the House today for its second reading. While this isn't the final stage, its still effectively D-Day for the bill. Because today, at around 5pm, is when we're going to find out if it has a majority, whether National will support it or ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Winston is right
    Winston Peters is in court today, suing a bunch of former Minister and civil servants over their pre-election leak of his superannuation repayment. He's characterised the leak as malicious, and said that it is repugnant that his information was passed on to Ministers to use for political advantage. And he's ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Media impartiality
    Sky's economics editor, Ed Conway has posted a Twitter thread responding to a claim that - as far as I can see - Labour never made:
    Are NHS operation cancellations at an all-time high? That's the impression you might have been left with if you read this story from the ...
    1 week ago
  • Finish what’s on your plate
    Murray Cox Do I have to finish my favourite genome? That’s an often-asked question. Geneticists generally strive to produce high-quality genomes that sequence every last gene, making full use of the state-of-the-art technologies coming on stream. Sequencing DNA means determining the order of the four chemical building blocks – called ...
    SciBlogsBy Genomics Aotearoa
    2 weeks ago
  • Gainful Employment: A Cautionary Tale.
    Transformative Politics: The idea is to turn each recipient into an unwitting accomplice in their own transformation. From interested observer to hyped-up activist, sharing our messages promiscuously with ‘friends’. You’ll be part of an ever-expanding circulatory system, Jennifer, for the ideas that will win us the election.”JENNIFER SKITTERED her chair ...
    2 weeks ago
  • New Zealand should not fund bigotry
    Two years ago, the Cook Islands government announced that it was planning to join the civilised world and decriminalise consensual homosexual sex between men. Now, they've reversed their position, and decided to criminalise lesbians into the bargain:Two years ago, in a step welcomed by many people including the gay and ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • New Fisk
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • More tyranny in Australia
    The boycott is a fundamental tool of protest. By choosing who we buy from, we can send a message, and hopefully change corporate behaviour. Historically, boycotts have been effective, for example over apartheid in South Africa and Israel, in forcing divestment from Myanmar, and in ending bus segregation in the ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Submission for rationality and science against the assaults of pre-modernism and post-modernism
    Jan Rivers spoke at the Abortion Legislation Select Committee in favour of the bill, but in opposition to calls from other submitters to exchange the word ‘woman’ for ‘person’ throughout the bill. Jan is a supporter of the feminist group Speak Up For Women and has recently written an excellent ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    2 weeks ago
  • My loyal readership of … Cam girls and Pornbots?
    I checked my traffic stats:I was intrigued by 'monica29' - who was this very dedicated individual?  I clicked on the link, to be greeted with ...Ho, hum.Spreadin' the word, spreadin' the word.  Doesn't matter who hears it, as long as it gets out there. ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Worth repeating forever
    There have been three polls since the election was announced, and I will shamelessly steal YouGov / UK Polling Report's Anthony Wells' summary of them:Survation – CON 34%, LAB 26%, LDEM 19%, BREX 12%, GRN 1% Ipsos MORI – CON 41%, LAB 24%, LDEM 20%, BREX 7%, GRN 3% YouGov ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Lutte Ouvriere on the explosion in Chile
    The following article is translated from Lutte Ouvrière, the weekly newspaper of the organisation usually known by the same name in France. When, for the second time this year, Chilean President Piñera announced an increase in the price of Metro tickets from 800 to 830 pesos, students in the high ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Wage theft – I’m fucking over it.
    Today, a worker contacted me asking if she could go to the police over her employer stealing thousands of dollars from her in unpaid wages. The employer also did not pay this worker’s taxes or student loan which amounts to tax fraud. As a workers rights activist, who founded the ...
    PosseBy chloeanneking
    2 weeks ago

  • Kiwis to have their say on End of Life Choice
    Jenny Marcroft MP, Spokesperson for Health New Zealand First backs the public to decide on the End of Life Choice Bill via a referendum at the 2020 General Election. The Bill, with New Zealand First’s referendum provision incorporated, passed its final reading in Parliament this evening. New Zealand First Spokesperson for ...
    1 day ago
  • Addressing miscarriages of justice
    Darroch Ball, Spokesperson for Justice New Zealand First is proud that a key Coalition Agreement commitment which will provide for a more transparent and effective criminal justice system has been realised. Legislation to establish the Criminal Cases Review Commission, an independent body focused on identifying and responding to possible miscarriages of ...
    2 days ago
  • Week That Was: Historic action on climate change
    "Today we have made a choice that will leave a legacy... I hope that means that future generations will see that we, in New Zealand, were on the right side of history." - Jacinda Ardern, Third Reading of the Zero Carbon Bill ...
    7 days ago
  • Tax-free deployments for Kiwi troops
    Darroch Ball, New Zealand First List MP A Member’s bill has been proposed that would provide income tax exemptions for all New Zealand Defence Force (NZDF) personnel while on operational deployment overseas. The Income Tax (Exemption for Salary or Wages of NZDF Members on Active Deployment) Amendment Bill proposed by New Zealand First ...
    1 week ago
  • A balanced Zero Carbon Bill passed
    Rt Hon Winston Peters, New Zealand First Leader New Zealand First is proud to have brought common sense to the Climate Change Response (Zero Carbon) Amendment Bill, which passed its final reading in Parliament today. Party Leader Rt Hon Winston Peters says months of hard work went into negotiating a balanced ...
    1 week ago
  • Paramedics’ status to be recognised
    Jenny Marcroft MP, Spokesperson for Health New Zealand First has listened to calls to recognise paramedics as registered health professionals under the Health Practitioners’ Competence Assurance Act (the Act). Today, the Coalition Government announced plans for paramedics to be registered as health practitioners under the Act, and the establishment of a ...
    1 week ago
  • Week That Was: 2,000 teachers in two years
    We began the week by commemorating the New Zealand Wars and celebrating a major increase in the number of teachers. Then, we were busy supporting offenders into work and getting our rail back on track after years of underinvestment. And that's just the start! ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Winning an election one conversation at a time
    In October I was sworn in as the Mayor of Lower Hutt. It’s the privilege of my life to serve Hutt people as their Mayor. There is something really special to be able to serve the community where I was raised, and where I live.   ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Closer cooperation with Korean horse racing industry
    Rt Hon Winston Peters, Deputy Prime Minister, Minister for Racing Racing Minister Winston Peters met with Korea Racing Authority Chairperson Nak Soon Kim in Seoul today to discuss closer cooperation between the New Zealand and Korean horse racing industries. As part of the visit to the Seoul Racecourse, Mr Peters witnessed ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Otago to lead digital creativity
    Hon Shane Jones, Minister for Regional Economic Development The Provincial Growth Fund (PGF) is investing $10 million to establish Otago as the centre of New Zealand’s creative digital industry over the next ten years, Regional Development Minister Shane Jones announced today. “The initiative will bring us closer to the vision of ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Young Otago students encouraged to take on forestry careers
    Hon Shane Jones, Minister for Regional Economic Development The Provincial Growth Fund (PGF)’s skills and employment programme will help young Otago people into long-term forestry careers, Regional Economic Development Minister Shane Jones announced today. Te Ara Mahi will invest $63,000 in the 2020 school year to support eight 17 and 18 ...
    2 weeks ago
  • PGF backing Dunedin’s waterfront ambitions
    Hon Shane Jones, Minister for Regional Economic Development The Provincial Growth Fund (PGF) will support local plans to revitalise and stimulate economic development opportunities in Otago, Regional Economic Development Minister Shane Jones has announced. The four Regional Economic Development Ministers have approved an in-principle investment of $19.9 million towards the region’s ...
    2 weeks ago
  • M. Bovis eradication progress welcomed
    Mark Patterson, Spokesperson for Primary Industries New Zealand First is pleased to have received the Technical Advisory Group (TAG) report on the Coalition Government’s Mycoplasma bovis eradication efforts, which shows significant progress in the fight against the disease. New Zealand First Spokesperson for Primary Industries, Mark Patterson, says the report’s findings ...
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