The Herald ban

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1. wyndham 1

   7 October 2011 at 3:46 pm

   Ten (10) Herald reporters at parliament!!

   Whatever do they do?
2. Ari 2

   7 October 2011 at 3:47 pm

   I don’t see why accredited journalists, at the very least, shouldn’t be allowed to take photos of members of parliamant inside the debating chamber. Seems a rather unnecessary ban. What was the rationale behind doing this to prevent protest(er)s?
   • insider 2.1

     7 October 2011 at 3:58 pm

     MPs aren’t allowed to comment on goings on in the viewing gallery either according to the rules.

     I suppose it’s to discourage bad behaviour by starving it of publicity and probably goes back to freedom of speech issues from when the gallery might be stuffed with thugs or an angry mob to try and intimidate parliamentarians.
     • Draco T Bastard 2.1.1

       7 October 2011 at 4:22 pm

       No, it goes back to when what happened in parliament was a deep, dark secret. It’s taking a few centuries but we’re slowly holding the politicians more to account.
3. tc 3

   7 October 2011 at 4:21 pm

   Hilarious is all I can say…..would we even notice if they weren’t there and agree with wyndham…10 FFS maybe 6-7 are strategically shaved gorillas chained to keyboards.
4. thejackal 4

   7 October 2011 at 4:58 pm

   I couldn’t believe the NZ Herald this morning when I read it… Lockwood Smith has overstepped the mark again in my opinion. Don’t like what the media is reporting… quick! Close it down. I’m not sure that ten reporters is all that many. There are a lot of MP’s and often lots of stories to report on.
   • felix 4.1

     7 October 2011 at 11:02 pm

     “I’m not sure that ten reporters is all that many. There are a lot of MP’s and often lots of stories to report on.”

     Yeah I agree, but are they doing it? Where’s the in-depth political reporting in the Herald?
     • bbfloyd 4.1.1

       8 October 2011 at 11:39 pm

       don’t you read kerre woodham then?
5. JT 5

   7 October 2011 at 4:59 pm

   I think Lockwood has thrown a boomerang at The Herald. One of the Herald’s arguments, or slip ups, if you like, was to suggest “…it didn’t even reflect badly on any particular politician…” (paraphrasing here)

   What? Who said it would? Are they suggesting it could? Who exactly?

   For Lockwood to suggest it is a matter of Standing Orders is to suggest that a room full of politicians in heated argument close to an election aren’t engaged in political activity. If the photo got out, the story would get out and if the story got out, the particpants would be named and if the participants are named, their actions would be discussed and…

   well it’s like one of those join-the-dots activity books from my childhood. The Herald knows it, but might have gone at it half heartedly if they had been allowed to rush the job. Now they’re annoyed because Lockwood blinked first. Ten long days of annoyance. When those dots are finally joined, the lines are going to draw an outline of the face of John Key, drawing an imaginary knife across his neck.
   • Lanthanide 5.1

     7 October 2011 at 5:42 pm

     I don’t understand this comment.

     You appear to be suggesting we wouldn’t have known about the guy attempting to jump if the herald hadn’t published a photo of it. Which is odd.
     • Jumbuck 5.1.1

       8 October 2011 at 7:54 am

       Oversimplifying. If the effect of pictures were simply what we saw, then newspapers would be text only.
6. randal 6

   7 October 2011 at 5:00 pm

   Bullshit. Patterson should know the rules. And there are other newspapers one can buy. the Herald just has to suck this one up. Post modernistic do what you likeism hasn’t completely taken over yet. One up for Lockwood.
   • Bazar 6.1

     7 October 2011 at 5:23 pm

     i have to agree
     The reporter must have known what they were doing was against the rules, but published it anyway because it was so interesting.

     If the law is there to stop any media interest encouraging protests, and the picture was taken of just such an event. The reporter broke both the spirit and the letter of the rule.
     • Colonial Viper 6.1.1

       7 October 2011 at 7:52 pm

       If the law is there to stop any media interest encouraging protests, and the picture was taken of just such an event. The reporter broke both the spirit and the letter of the rule.

       Its not, its House rules, so the rest of your statement is BS.
       • Bazar 6.1.1.1

         7 October 2011 at 8:44 pm

         Well i should congratulate you viper, you actually managed to post a reply without pointless insulting.

         Fixed:
         “If the RULE is there to stop any media interest encouraging protests, and the picture was taken of just such an event. The reporter broke both the spirit and the letter of the rule.”
         • Colonial Viper 6.1.1.1.1

           7 October 2011 at 11:09 pm

           Oh, I’m hurt!

           There is always a point to my crass insults 🙂
7. Adrian 7

   7 October 2011 at 5:22 pm

   This is Lockwood following the Crosby-Textor rule book. Number1-Protect the Dear Leader, protect the Dear Leader, pro…. But like all authorotarian mandates it may just backfire.
8. Jan 8

   7 October 2011 at 5:38 pm

   Agree this is a Silly article – this one and in Herald protesting too much and becoming the story instead of reporting on the news.

   The real attack on democracy is one NZ faces every day – the permanent inadequate and trivialised reporting and profound lack of analysis of what goes on in politics and Parliament – including the Herald photo of the incident in the gallery. The unwillingness of the PM to be interviewed by the news media except under tightly controlled conditions and that the fact that is not in itself newsworthy is an attack on democracy worthy of comment. The exclusion of rule breakers on the last sitting day. No.
   • ghostwhowalksnz 8.1

     7 October 2011 at 5:54 pm

     last sitting day ? Too late that was yesterday.
     The ban is 10 days starting next Monday.
9. randal 9

   7 October 2011 at 6:23 pm

   You right Jan. The media has become piss weak and focussed on themselves instead of the news. If it aint rugby or britney spears favourite colour then they dont give a stuff. Its puerile and juvenile tripe most of it.
10. thejackal 10

    7 October 2011 at 6:44 pm

    Update: The Parliament ban on the NZ Herald imposed by Lockwood Smith has been partially lifted.

    Previously the speaker had banned the Herald journalists from their offices for 10 days, just six weeks out from an election. However, in a statement released this afternoon he said the journalists could have access to their offices.

    Strange that he has done this just after saying he would not. Is the Speaker of the House a bit schizo!
    • Anne 10.1

      7 October 2011 at 7:19 pm

      Nah… he’s had his instructions from the psychopath on the ninth floor of the Beehive to pull his head in and let em back into their offices cos otherwise he (the psy…path) will miss out on some photo ops!
    • mik e 10.2

      7 October 2011 at 9:29 pm

      Crosby has textered him
11. mik e 11

    7 October 2011 at 8:27 pm

    It has backfired because National won’t this story buried and forgotten by little johny rotten punk prime minister pity he didn’t have a razor blade in his hand when he made the jesture then we would have to call him Keymo the emo
    The last people National need to piss off is Granny Herald with their free election advertising
12. freedom 12

    7 October 2011 at 10:30 pm

    why not just ban phones/image capture devices in the gallery ?

    the journos that still turn up
    might even pay attention to the floor below
13. ak 13

    8 October 2011 at 1:10 am

    Speaking of bans, is it just me or has anyone else been banned from Trotter’s blog? Hell of a swag of whack-a-Goffy comments and posts on there, but mine just disappear. Repeatedly.

    Sole credible lefty MSM commenter knifes Phil in the back weeks out from the election. No critical comments allowed

    Disappearing video apropos the throat-cutting episode.

    Incessant pro-NACT MSM propaganda intensifies despite election proximity and overwhelming and indisputable evidence of failure.

    Fuck this. This is my father’s country.

    Time to occupy something.
14. Pundit X 14

    9 October 2011 at 6:42 pm

    A photojournalist writes. Yes its the Herald and they are now getting the opportunity to give some thought to their sycophancy and how meaningless it has been have pissed off Sweeny Key and been frozen out of the big house. The really important thing that should actually concern us all is that there is a ban in the first place. Pictures make events real in a way that words don’t. Thats why governments ban photographers and cameras. If you really want a free and open society let the cameras in.

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