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Transmission Gully- $1bln white elephant

Written By: - Date published: 9:01 am, December 17th, 2009 - 119 comments
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Here’s a prediction. Transmission Gully will never be built.

There’s a reason that Labour kept pushing Transmission Gully off. The Benefit/Cost ratio is sh*t. “It is likely that the benefit-cost ratio for the Transmission Gully route is less than 1” says Joyce. Disgracefully, NZTA is too ashamed to publish the actual number.

Transmission Gully will cost $1 billion and be worth less than a billion to the country. Stupid.

Put the billion in early childhood intervention for at-risk kids. Pays off at $17  for each one invested. Or put the billion in public transport with decent B/C ratios. That’s what this government is about, eh? Value for money?

Even that crap “less than 1” B/C assumes no more oil spikes. The IEA reckons the next supply crunch will be 2012. Before building begins on Transmission Gully even if everything goes well. That next spike will push costs up and slash benefits driving the B/C into the ground. Peak oil will keep it there. No government with any sense will build a 27km white elephant, a billion dollar monument to the death of car culture.

Another thing. Tolls are dumb. Running the toll system costs a bomb. Up at Orewa-Puhoi, taking a payment by phone costs NZTA $2.70. Average transaction cost is $1.29. Toll is $2.00. In the first year, tolling lost $500,000 (25% more than revenue). The cost of the system is even more than expected and the losses are bigger (NZTA is pretty shy about revealing that too).

The B/C of roading projects falls with tolling. Why do it? It’s just a dumb obsession with user pays. If a project makes sense its because it creates a worthwhile benefit to the nation as a whole, the nation should pay.

Transmission Gully – worth less than it costs. Tolling – more expensive than the revenue.

Let’s hope we get that sensible government in time to cancel this ridiculous waste of our money.

119 comments on “Transmission Gully- $1bln white elephant”

  1. TightyRighty 1

    is the reason Labour put off transmission gully because it thought it could do better with kiwi rail? i think it’s pretty apparent that the cost benefit ratio of transmission gully will be higher than whatever it is for kiwirail. seeing we’ve already lost 600 million on that in the deal of the century.

    • Zetetic 1.1

      Bluster disregarded. You are against all projects with benefits less than costs, eh?

      • TightyRighty 1.1.1

        no not all. i am against putting things off over and over again, the cost of transmission gully has sky-rocketed from free to about a billion dollars. wellington needs another route north. saving ten mintues on a twenty five minute journey, multiply that by however many people use the road yearly, and you have some large efficiency gains. better to save some time and drive to work in wellington, than take your chances with a clapped out train system.

        • lprent 1.1.1.1

          That is calculated inside the B/C ratios. Evidently you are wrong.

          • TightyRighty 1.1.1.1.1

            what part am i wrong about lprent? saving ten minutes on a twenty five minute journey? or how you can multiply that by everone who uses the road each year? or that taking 40% off travel time is an efficiency gain?

            • Pascal's bookie 1.1.1.1.1.1

              The effieciency gain is included in the b side of the B/C, it still doesn’t outweight the c side.

            • snoozer 1.1.1.1.1.2

              Tighty. Those benefits are counted in the B-C ratio. They do not outweigh the cost

              And there’s no use crying that in the past it might have been cheaper. The money was spent on other things then and this decision is being made in the present.

              • TightyRighty

                i know that, so what b-c analysis was done for kiwirail that showed that we would pay a billion for something worth $400 million, and doesn’t even include the vital trucking operation that is now eating up competitors?

                compare the beneficiaries of transmission gully, everyone who uses the road or has goods delivered along such road, to the beneficiaries of buying kiwirail, toll, when the cost is the same. so really one provides wider good, and one benefited an australian company in the deal of the century.

              • Draco T Bastard

                compare the beneficiaries of transmission gully, everyone who uses the road or has goods delivered along such road,

                Until the road reaches congestion or until nobody can afford to run a car any more – whichever comes first.

                The B/C of 1).

              • Pascal's bookie

                So your argument is that Kiwirail thing sucked and we did that, so we should also do this other sucky thing, just to be fair?

              • snoozer

                Tighty. a B-C ratio for Kiwirail would include the benefit to the whole country, not just the value of owning it. I haven’t seen a B-C ratio for the rail system but I’m willing to bet its greater than 1, unlike TG.

            • Bored 1.1.1.1.1.3

              Methinks you miss the real point, you wont get that efficiency gain on a bicycle or on foot, What Zet correctly intimates is that oil will not be available at a price the average motorist can afford by the time this road gets built, compounding this will be th extra cost of building cause by the spike in oil prices.

              A saner alternative (regardless of your politics) would be to plan for this eventuality and match investment strategies to future realities.

              • TightyRighty

                methinks you live in lala land, when petrol gets that expensive, it will be feasible to drill the southern ocean basin. or people will buy electric cars, or whatever is out there to replace petrol engines. so lets plan for a future where humans, as they do now, have personal transport and use it.

              • Swampy

                Rise in the cost of oil will affect everything, not just road building, it will cause a massive economic slump, just as happened in the 70s with the oil price rises which caused recession in many countries. The truth is the oil economy is what our economic development relies on heavily. For this reason I dispute the wishful thinking that peak oil will lead to some new utopia where public transport will take over and everything continue as before.

  2. roger nome 2

    What an expensive barrel of pork. I wonder how much it’s worth to Peter Dunne?

  3. roger nome 3

    TR

    “i think it’s pretty apparent that the cost benefit ratio of transmission gully will be higher than whatever it is for kiwirail.\

    I think your crystal ball’s broken. Either that or you’re a peak-oil denialist (i.e. nearly as ignorant as a AGW denialist.)

    • TightyRighty 3.1

      my crystal ball is broken? oh thats right, your so progressive that forgot to wonder what might come after the internal combustion engine. gee silly me for thinking that people would rather catch a train than drive their electric car or whatever the future holds for independent personal transport to auckland. or one of the many place not served by rail lines.

      • lprent 3.1.1

        Yep I also think that personal transport will be around for a long time.

        However we have more than enough roads now if we had a decent public transport system. The more people on public transport, the less vehicles on the road.

        That is why the B/C on public transport is high what ever way you look at it – amongst other things it reduces the requirement to pay for roads that fill up within a few years.

        • Gosman 3.1.1.1

          Wellington requires a decent road route going north out of the city especially considering the threat to the costal route due to potential sea level rise of AGW.

          No amount of investment in Public Transport will change this situation.

          • Pascal's bookie 3.1.1.1.1

            How do you get from the south end of TG to Wellington?

            • Gosman 3.1.1.1.1.1

              South end of TG?

              You have to be less obtuse.

            • Gosman 3.1.1.1.1.2

              Oh you mean Transmission Gully.

              It is still far more inland than the current route and will be easier to protect from any sea level rise.

              • Pascal's bookie

                So how do get between the south end of the new safer inland route and Wellington again?

                Just seems like this argument, that you are fond of, has a few gaps that might be very expensive to fill.

              • Clarke

                It’s a pity it’s going to be built on a fault-line, then. Because in an earthquake, NZTA’s own analysis says the road will be more damaged than the coastal route and will take longer to repair …

              • Gosman

                Do you mean the existing Motorway on Wellington harbour?

                If so then this will have to be protected at some stage as well. However this will have to be done whether or not Transmission Gully is built.

                I would prefer that we have a decent first class road route in-land and not have to worry about having to protect all the existing coastal highway.

              • Gosman

                The existing Motorway is built across fault lines as well. It is pretty hard to avoid that in Wellington.

                Which is easier to do though, rebuild a road after a one off earthquake or deal with flooding caused by rising sea levels?

          • lprent 3.1.1.1.2

            A rail line on the Transmission Gully route would be a hell of a lot cheaper. It might even have a positive B/C.

            I’d agree on the need to reduce dependence on the coastal route. But that has been the case since I first looked at the civil defense in wellington. An earthquake has always been on the cards there, and that coastal road has a good probability of dropping back into the sea (or going up again).

            • Gosman 3.1.1.1.2.1

              Relying only on Railway as the main route in to and out of Wellington from the North would be extremely limiting.

              Building a road widens your transport options, including you public transport ones.

              BTW this nonsensical talk about Transmission Gully being too steep for Trucks is laughable. This is not the Himalaya’s.

              If trucks can travel over the Kyber pass I think they should be able to build a road for them that isn’t too steep in Wellington.

            • Swampy 3.1.1.1.2.2

              With the grades of the TG highway a rail line would be very expensive to operate. Still it has been talked about for decades, but this is the NIMT we are talking about and the most they have managed to justify in the heyday of railways was a couple of minor deviations (off the original route via Johnsonville).

            • burt 3.1.1.1.2.3

              lprent

              I’ve taken my mountain bike up Transmission Gully a few times and I can assure you that getting a train up that gradient would be an interesting exercise. The “incline” grade sections of the old Rimutuka rail line are nowhere near as steep as Transmission Gully.

              Sure it would be possible I guess…Perhaps the IPCC could model it for us and prove that gravity has different effects of trains when you use them to replace cars.

              • lprent

                I’ve never been there. Inclines are a bitch for trains, which is why there aren’t tracks over the harbor bridge.

                However I was thinking more of a tunnel at transmission gully. There are probably those nice machines around that they used at Puhio.

              • burt

                lprent

                A tunnel seems like the most logical choice, perhaps the type of rock and the presence of fault lines etc buggers that option.

                The perfect option would seem to be;

                Rip the guts out of the top of the gully on a mega scale making the summit 100 meters lower than it is today. Stockpile the massive mounds of clean fill for when we need to build sea walls around the Kapiti coast. Replant renewable resource credits trees all over the remodeled landscape.

                If you say my idea is silly I’ll call you a traitor. 🙂

                • lprent

                  Whatever you say burt – but it does seem like it would raise the cost part of the equation.

                  Personally I think that the whole transmission gully road seems pretty bad. The only major ‘benefit’ would be to get politicians out of Wellington when the big one comes. But I thought that would be against your religions.

  4. roger nome 4

    TR:

    Ah ever faithful in the market to magically provide all the answers i see. I too believe that one day a solution will found to get around the depletion of fossil fuels, re personal transport, i just don’t know that this can be done within the next 20-50 years, when we’ll need it.

    The following is from a report prepared for the US department of energy.

    i.e.

    World oil peaking is going to happen, and will likely be abrupt.
    * World production of conventional oil will reach a maximum and decline thereafter.
    * Some forecasters project peaking within a decade; others contend it will occur later.
    * Peaking will happen, but the timing is uncertain.
    Mitigation efforts will require substantial time.
    * Waiting until production peaks would leave the world with a liquid fuel deficit for 20 years.
    * Initiating a crash program 10 years before peaking leaves a liquid fuels shortfall of a decade.
    * Initiating a crash program 20 years before peaking could avoid a world liquid fuels shortfall.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hirsch_report

    • TightyRighty 4.1

      and Roger that may all be true. it does not mean that people will stop using personal transport in favour of public. trucks will still operate, business will still need roads to function, and providing a third northern route out of wellington is sensible to say the least.

  5. Macro 5

    Building motorways now is the HEIGHT of STUPIDITY.
    * A few more million invested in upgrading the rail into Wellington.

    *Banning trucks carrying containers into the port and putting containers on rail from container ports built out of the city.

    * Or better still moving containers by rail in the first place.

    *Upgrading public transport even more with more frequent feeder buses to trains etc.

    *Taxing single person cars traveling into the city in peak hours. eg Singapore/ London.

    Far cheaper and would have a positive benefit for all as well as the planet.

    • Kevin Welsh 5.1

      This is one thing I have never been able to understand about road container transport. Why move one container at a time by truck, when you could move hundreds at a time by rail?

      Why not set up rail hubs in strategic locations, and then have smaller trucks delivering in a small radius instead of working between the likes of Auckland and Wellington?

      • Gosman 5.1.1

        Flexibility.

        If I have a small consignment of goods that I need to move fast to a location away from a rail hub it makes economic sense to move it by road.

        • felix 5.1.1.1

          And that’s why no-one is suggesting digging up all the roads. That option will always be available for that type of transportation.

          It’s not a reason to go on building more and more roads though – most freight is far more predictable, repetitive and bulk-oriented. Rail and hybrid solutions are more appropriate.

          • Gosman 5.1.1.1.1

            Possibly but that is really a separate argument to whether or not Transmission Gully is a good thing or not.

            Wellington doesn’t have a decent main road going Northwards. Transmission Gully provides it with this option.

            This will mean that the existing Coastal route can become far more people friendly and there is greater flexibility in transport options into and out of the Greater Wellington area.

            I have yet to see any meaningful alternatives put forward by opponents of Transmission Gully beyond a childish ‘More Public Transport and less provate cars’ mantra.

            • felix 5.1.1.1.1.1

              Well I’m not really an “opponent” of the transmission gully project – it’s not even on my radar to be honest.

              But I do take issue with your suggestion that promoting more public transport and less use of private vehicles is in any way childish.

              Actually the more I read it the more ridiculous that last paragraph of yours looks.

              • Gosman

                It’s childish because it is a simplistic rendering of a complex issue which doesn’t really deal with the topic at hand. It would be like saying the solution to AGW is to reduce Carbon Dioxide in the Atmosphere. It might be correct but there is no substance behind it.

                More Public Transport might resolve a number of issues but it is not going to deal with the fundamental problem that Transmission Gully resolves, that is the lack of decent road link in and out of Wellington from the North.

              • felix

                It might be correct but there is no substance behind it.

                If it’s so obviously correct as to be childish then to argue against the premise would be….?

                Note, I said “against” not “for more detail“.

              • Gosman

                It is childish to use that as the sum total of your argument. And that is all I have heard in relation to alternatives to Transmission Gully. ‘You should spend more on Public Transport’. Really? How will this make Wellington’s northern access less vulnerable? That is why there is no substance in such an argument.

              • felix

                Fair enough. I think I started replying to you while you were off on a tangent so I missed the context of what you were saying.

      • Swampy 5.1.2

        Because you still have to get the containers from the premises to the rail yards, and off at the other end. How do you do this except by road? And then it costs extra to transfer them from road to rail. We are talking here about relatively short journeys across town or whatever. And then the containers that have been loaded have to wait in the rail yard while the rest of them are loaded onto the train before it gets going, and then it takes time to unload them all at the other end.

        Now a single truck may only be able to move one or perhaps two containers at a time but it can do so on demand and without these delays and extra handling. On a long distance trip it becomes less of an issue but on a short haul across a city it does not stack up so well.

        • Macro 5.1.2.1

          “Transmission Gully” is about access into and out of Wellington. Now if you can remove trucks and a large number of commuter traffic going to and from work from the existing motorway TG would be unnecessary! Sure you will need trucks in the city but the transportation of containers into and out of the city should be off the motorway.
          Furthermore the Govt has said that it will cut Carbon emissions by 10 % or more. Just how is it going to achieve that if continues investing in concrete and more cars and trucks? The pitiful ETS is not going to achieve it.

    • Gosman 5.2

      Ummmm…..

      Transmission Gully is not really for the day to day commuter, although it will help in that regard.

      I take Public Transport to work pretty much every day. However when I go North on trips with my family I take a car as it is far more convenient than having to drag four kids and associated baggage on Public Transport.

      None of the options you suggest will make my life easier.

      • Clarke 5.2.1

        ransmission Gully is not really for the day to day commuter, although it will help in that regard.

        Actually Transmission Gully is almost exclusively for cars, as it’s too steep for trucks – it’s nearly three times as steep at the summit as Ngauranga Gorge, which means it’s pretty much impassable for B-Trains and the like.

        This is a road to nowhere, dreamed up by a moron of a Minister.

        • Gosman 5.2.1.1

          I’d suggest the amount of commuters north of Paramata is minimal compared to those living in the wider Porirua, Hutt Valley, and Wellington City environs.

          The Road will allow much easier access of these people to the North. I’d suggest that is hardly a road to nowhere.

          Why do you think this project has got so much support amongst the wider local Government area in Wellington?

          • Clarke 5.2.1.1.1

            I’d suggest the amount of commuters north of Paramata is minimal compared to those living in the wider Porirua, Hutt Valley, and Wellington City environs.

            I think you’re entirely right – which is, of course, why the project has a negative BCR, particularly given that the trucks won’t use it in any appreciable numbers.

            Why do you think this project has got so much support amongst the wider local Government area in Wellington?

            Because Kerry and co are a bunch of car-centric dinosaurs – and because (largely) Transmission Gully is not their money, it’s central government money. So it should be interesting watching Bob Jones sweeping the current pro-car WCC lot into the dustbin of history at the next election.

        • Roflcopter 5.2.1.2

          Ummm… It’s not 3 times as steep, it’s the same grade over a longer distance. And no, it’s not a problem for trucks, it just takes longer.

          But don’t let the facts get in the way of a good yarn.

        • ben 5.2.1.3

          This is a road to nowhere, dreamed up by a moron of a Minister.

          You’ll have to be a bit more specific. This has been on the books for 40 years.

        • Swampy 5.2.1.4

          You are much mistaken, the road has been campaigned for a decade or more, it was not suddenly dreamed up out of nowhere by the Minister.

    • Bored 5.3

      You can always rely on techno salvationists to argue against the laws of physics and known shortfalls in resource capacities. They tend to be the same fringe looneys (and economists) who believe that continuous growth in a finite world is possible. Its the same materialist stupidity evident in the extremes of both left (communism) and right (market neo liberalism) that blindly refuses to see reality.

      Your chances of getting these pillocks to understand our common future and act accordingly wont happen in advance, the actual reality will have to happen first and wrap itself around their very thick craniums several times before you will get so much as a duhh!!!!

      • Gosman 5.3.1

        Ummmm…..

        Was there a point to your post Bored?

        Simple question for you –

        Does Wellington need a decent road route into the City from the North?

      • Draco T Bastard 5.3.2

        You won’t even get that – even after it happens they’ll still deny it.

  6. Gosman 6

    Do any of you who a decrying the decision to build the Transmission Gully route live in Wellington and drive?

    The current roads out of the Capital are positively Third world. On top of that they are extremely vulnerable to being cut off due to natural occurances or accidents.

    Given the threat of increased sea levels due to AGW wouldn’t it be sensible to build an in-land route which won’t be impacted?

    • snoozer 6.1

      there’s lots of things that would be nice to have. but government spending shouldn’t outweigh the benefits of that spending. Sorry, but Transmission Gully isn’t worth the cost.

      • Gosman 6.1.1

        The Government has decided otherwise. The road should be a toll one with steep charges though. I wouldn’t mind paying $10 for a trip for example if it saved me 15 to 20 minutes.

        If The Labour Party wishes to make this an election issue come 2011 I welcome that. It would be interesting to see how much support they will lose in Wellington.

        • Draco T Bastard 6.1.1.1

          The Government has decided otherwise.

          That’s because this government is stupid.

          • Gosman 6.1.1.1.1

            And so too must be most of the Local Governments in the Wellington region then.

          • Clarke 6.1.1.1.2

            .. or it could be because the National Party took election “donations” from the trucking lobby. Not stupid – simply available for purchase.

            • prism 6.1.1.1.2.1

              About trucks firms using the TG someone has already suggested that it is too steep for many. So they probably wouldn’t be major cash supporters of National with this project as a goal.

          • Gosman 6.1.1.1.3

            So why does the proposed route have majority support amongst the wider local Government sector in Wellington?

        • snoozer 6.1.1.2

          Gosman. The point of this discussion is that the government’s decision is stupid and the costs outweigh the benefits – that’s official. The government didn’t decide that isn’t the case, they are building it regardless.

          Labour won’t run against building TG. But some future government will just shelve it.

          • Gosman 6.1.1.2.1

            Not if the build is well advanced it won’t.

            The proposal is to take around 10 years to build it. It is unlikely that any new Government will shelve it if it is already three or four years into this schedule.

            If they did the backlash from a large section of Wellingtonians would be huges.

            • Lanthanide 6.1.1.2.1.1

              That depends entirely on whether the government is facing a huge deficit or not, doesn’t it?

              After the Asian financial crisis in 1997-98, many highways, hotels and other construction projects simply halted, and have remain halted since.

              http://www.thailandguru.com/1997-asian-financial-crisis.html

              So don’t just merrily assume that because something costs $1b to build, that once it is started it will be completed no matter what. You simply can’t finish building something if the money isn’t available.

              Now the most likely scenario for this is peak oil and oil price shocks. But also consider what would happen if a massive earthquake struck Auckland, Christchurch or Wellington? The government would likely divert funding from unnecessary infrastructure towards rebuilding the necessary.

          • Swampy 6.1.1.2.2

            Labour supported TG in its previous term of office.

            • lprent 6.1.1.2.2.1

              Yes, it kept getting deferred for projects with better benefit / cost ratios – ie ones that returned more in benefits to the community than they cost.

    • Bored 6.2

      I walk, bike, scoot, and occasionally drive around Wellington, its a bloody nightmare. It reflects years of neglect and should not be as it is. We missed the boat for what we needed when oil based energy was cheap. Having said that the wisdom of spending billions on an automobile infrastructure now is wrong. Its a misinvestment.

      • Gosman 6.2.1

        Regardless of whether or not investment in Public Transport is increased within the convines of the greater Wellington region it still needs a decent overland road route to the North. The Coastal route is extremely vulnerable to numerous threats including increased sea levels. Building a first class route in-land makes sense even if you want people to take buses instead of private cards.

        • Bored 6.2.1.1

          That would be a better investment so long as it is attuned to future usage, I have long been in favour of better integrated rail / bus services to take the weight of cars of the roads. That will happen in the future anyway, but I agree there does remain a real issue as to whether the current local routes provide any redundancy etc. Must say the current coast road would drive anybody using it regularly to insanity.

        • Clarke 6.2.1.2

          it still needs a decent overland road route to the North.

          You may well be right, so it’s a pity that Transmission Gully doesn’t fit the bill. It’s too steep for large trucks and heavy machinery, sits on a fault line so is more likely to be haevily damaged in a large earthquake, and will take longer and cost more to repair in an earthquake than the coastal route.

          It’s a billion dollar white elephant, exactly as Zetetic suggests.

          • Gosman 6.2.1.2.1

            So when the Coastal route is impacted by rising sea level rises what would you suggest Wellignton does Clarke?

    • satty 6.3

      How do more cars in Wellington City improve the car traffic there?

      In Central Europe the cities with the highest average inner city travel speed are the ones with the best public transport systems. Here in New Zealand the politicians try desperately for 50 years to prove the opposite – they completely failed.

      Wellington (traffic) can clearly only improve with less cars in the city. Therefore every cent invested in car traffic instead of public transport makes things only worse.

      • Gosman 6.3.1

        Do you live in Wellington Satty?

        Have you ever tried to take your family on a trip to the North during a Summer holiday?

        • Draco T Bastard 6.3.1.1

          I’ve done that and it was a nightmare. Took nearly 4 hours just to go the first 100km or so. It took that long because of all the commuters in their cars. If all those commuters had been on the train instead then it wouldn’t have taken as long as the roads would have been empty.

          • fizzleplug 6.3.1.1.1

            Those aren’t commuters, they are holiday-takers. Who for some reason don’t want to take their suitcase on the train with them.

            Normal commuter traffic is no-where near this bad.

            • Gosman 6.3.1.1.1.1

              What a flippent and ignorant reply.

              Have you ever attempted to take a number of small children on a holiday?

              Taking them on Public transport would be a nightmare.

              • snoozer

                It’s stupid to build a billion highway just to ease congestion a few days a year.

                especially when oil prices are heading one way – out of reach for things like cra holidays

              • prism

                When I travelled through Wellington north a while ago, I noticed that major car numbers on the roads in the weekend were young men. The road through the Rimutakas seems to be a rally track for them. This sector of population are big road users in the weekend cf to other sectors.

              • Captain Rehab

                Have you ever attempted to take a number of small children on a holiday?

                Taking them on Public transport would be a nightmare.

                You’re not smacking them properly.

            • Draco T Bastard 6.3.1.1.1.2

              No, they were commuters. I doubt if normal commuting applies in the holiday period anyway but the time I went through wasn’t actually in the holiday period, it was close though and midweek.

              Normal commuter traffic is no-where near this bad.

              That’s what I’ve heard – I suspect that the day I went through was just one of those days when everyone took their car to work rather than public transport and yet NACT want to build a highway that will encourage even more people to take their car.

              Definition of stupidity: Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.
              And yet that is exactly what NACT are proposing to do and at a known B/C ratio that proves that it’s not worth doing.

          • Swampy 6.3.1.1.2

            No it is because the roads north out of Wellington are inadequate for the traffic, they go through too many residential areas

        • satty 6.3.1.2

          I have no problem if people take their car for a weekend trip. Specially, when there are three or more people in the car. The car might be a necessary item at the place you spend the holidays, like in rural areas. Does it make sense for some holiday trips saving 15 or 20 minutes travel time to invest a billion dollars?

          The main traffic problems are working day commuters: A single person driving a car through the city to park it on most expensive real estate in the country. The car stands around there idle and doesn’t serve any purpose all day.
          You can fill up Courtney Place with maybe 20 cars, which is something like 20 to 25 people, or you can try and get 6 or 7 buses through instead, which is probably more than 250 people in peak hour times. The majority people do not need there car at the office, no parking fees and everyone’s travel time would be reduced, reclaiming pedestrian areas to make a city a lot nicer and stress-free, with a large number of trolley buses this certainly reduces toxic exhaust and therefore improves the health of city people… this is a real Win/Win/Win/Win situation, proven in God-knows how many cities around the world (haven’t seen one in New Zealand yet).

    • Macro 6.4

      I used to live in Wellington and now I live in Auckland – I visit Wellington regularly though throughout the year and travel down occasionally by car and have driven around the city by car in the last month. Let me tell you that the roads around Wellington in rush hour are no where near as congested as the roads in Auckland at the same time.
      Let me also suggest that this is possible because of a much more people friendly public transport system.

      Captcha “Bus” – This thing is intelligent i tell you!

      [lprent: I read the code. It isn’t….]

  7. Pete 7

    Given we’re borrowing a billion every two weeks to fund Labours social spend-up, $2.4b is a drop in teh bucket. A mere few weeks spend.

    Why are you getting exited about the latter spend but not the former?

    This road is needed. The current road is inadequate, no matter how much money you waste on KiwiRail.

    • snoozer 7.1

      pete.

      the benefits outwiegh the costs. That’s official.

      that means that this road isn’t needed, not at this cost.

      • Gosman 7.1.1

        The Government has decided otherwise. This decision is extremely popular amongst many Wellingtonian’s.

        • snoozer 7.1.1.1

          No. The government has not decided that the benefits outweigh the costs. The minsiter says the B-C is less than 1.

          They have decided to ignore the B-C ratio and waste our money because it will be popular with a few people on the Kapiti Coast like you. Those of us in the centre of the city couldn’t give a crap, except that it’s a waste fo our money.

          That may be good politics. But it’s not good government and its not good use of our taxpayer dollars.

          • Gosman 7.1.1.1.1

            Ummmmm….. I don’t live on the Kapiti Coast.

            If noone else in Wellington cares about this why does it have majority support amongst the Local Government sector?

            I would love if the Labour Party made this an election issue.

            • Bright Red 7.1.1.1.1.1

              they’re obviously not going to make it an election issue.

              No-one in the Hutt cares about it, gosman. I know that much. We just see it as a waste of our money. A billion dollars to give a road to some idiots who can’t just take the train.

              So Prendergast likes it, so what? She’s just pro building roads.

            • Pascal's bookie 7.1.1.1.1.2

              Really? You’d love a nation-wide campaign on the proposition that the Nats are slashing spending, except for on an uneconomic road designed so that beurocrats can save ten minutes on their yearly trip to the provinces? 😉

          • Rob 7.1.1.1.2

            If the benefits outweighed the cost then the ratio would be greater than one. You are confused.

            What you are meaning to say is that the costs outweigh the benefits ie a ratio of less than one.

      • prism 7.1.2

        Or vice versa.

  8. Greg 8

    Nome: Peak oil. Myth. Read an article the other day from a oil producing nation’s persepective. They were busy laughing at us, because while we stress about peak oil, they stress about limiting supply to keep the price high. Which is a challenge apparently. That aside – yes oil will be more scarce tomorrow than it was today, and yes one day we come close to running out. But the market WILL supply a solution. We know roughly the amount of oil left, we know the rough cost of extracting it. Therefore the price will increase in line with the increased cost an scarcity. As such the investment in alternative fuels becomes more profitable, more money is invested and alternatives are developed. The wonders of economics eh.

    Bored: “They tend to be the same fringe looneys (and economists) who believe that continuous growth in a finite world is possible. Its the same materialist stupidity evident in the extremes of both left (communism) and right (market neo liberalism) that blindly refuses to see reality.”

    Speaking like someone who truly does not understand economics. I suggest you take some time to look into it – you may be suprised what you see. The thing about economics is that the common misconception is that economists develop models and try to fit them to the real world. In reality the opposite is true, economists study the real world – and develop models to reflect it.

    Have you ever heard of the Solow Growth Model? Basically it hypothisised what your claiming, that the world is finite so countries can only reach one maximim point of growth. The problem was that real world evidence contradicted this. Countries just kept on growing. What was discovered was that either an increase in the capital/labour ratio or technology can shift the whole model outwards – making countinued growth possible in a finite world.

    • Bright Red 8.1

      greg. there is only so much recoverable oil. peak oil is an inevitablity, that’s the concensus of the geologists. That’s how resrouce extraction works – every feild peaks, every region peaks (eg the US peaked in 1970), and eventually the world must peak too.

      but I guess you know better than them, just like you know better than the climatoligsts.

      The only question with peak oil is ‘when’? And I’m not aware of a single model that puts it more than 20 years away.

    • Draco T Bastard 8.2

      In reality the opposite is true, economists study the real world and develop models to reflect it.

      A couple of economists do that but the majority just take the free-market theory at face value. They don’t even look at the assumptions behind – the assumptions that assume away reality.

      • fizzleplug 8.2.1

        Not sure what all this peak oil fuss is about. If we wait another 50 million years, a whole new lot will be ready for extraction. Just be patient people.

        Transport spending is a long term plan (obviously).

    • Bored 8.3

      Greg, the fairies at the end of your garden have been telling you tales. Solow I have read along with other tea leaf readers (commonly known as economists). His models has too many failings to discuss here, but even if you dont break it down its as simple as the inability to fill a cup to twice its capacity.

  9. Greg 9

    Oh and TightyRighty – stay true to your name, don’t become a pawn of this National government. Your right – kiwirail was a disaster. But that does not mean Transmission Gully is a good idea. A cost/benefit ratio lower than 1 is terrible, even a ratio higher than 1 does not make it a good idea. Evidence out of the states suggest tax cuts have a cost/beneift ratio of 3. I feel this is the benchmark we should be comparing it to.

  10. Greg’s faith in the Invisible Hand of the Market coming to our rescue when oil becomes too expensive is a mite akin to the faith of the Rapturists that the Invisible Hand of God will come to their rescue when Armageddon breaks out.

    In reality as the price of oil increases the market for it will shrink to those who can still afford it, and those who can’t afford it will become “collateral damage” of the market mechanism – unable to run their cars they’ll have to crowd like cattle on an inadequate public transport system to get to school or work, if they still can, give up trips to relatives and/or leisure activities, crowd into inner-city concrete jungles to to get a job they can walk to or take what they can, which means they’ll have even less money to spend on the inevitably expensive ‘new technology’.

    Alternatively, if Greg is correct the result will be that ten years after TG opens the north end will be surrounded by satellite housing developments built to take advantage of the ‘improved’ access to Wellington and TG will no longer be able to cope with the extra vehicular movements it’s very existence generated, so another road will be needed.

    The fundamental point is that with global warming, peak oil and a totally unsustainable growth in both population and its expectations, man is catapulting himself into a situation where no man has been before and the old mindsets will no-longer do.

    It’s a truism that Generals go into new wars always prepared to fight the one before. Politicians are no better and Transmission Gully is just kind of war-winning plan the General were drawing up in 1914.

    • Bored 10.1

      Well put, it’s the triple whammy you mentioned that needs recognition. A rational response is not to leave this to faith based solutions such as market economics or undiscovered technologies. If either have any mitigating factors great, but to rely on them would be foolhardy in the extreme.

    • Quoth the Raven 10.2

      Greg’s faith in the Invisible Hand of the Market…
      Maybe you should look at the Iron Fist behind the invisible hand.
      You at once want to decry the market and this bit of government folly from National. If left to the market this road would never be built because as Marty rightly points out it is just not economic. No private business would build this white elephant it’s only possible with the extra-economic power of the state.
      As to peak oil if it’s a real phenomenon, which I believe it to be, one should think you’d see the advantages to market mechanisms working away making oil ever and ever more expensive and alternatives such as public transport or alternatives to oil altogether becoming more economically viable. People will adapt to peak oil it will probably mean a process of relocalization will happen. It’s also interesting to note that the US that paragon of the free market 🙄 still provides subsidises to the Oil and Coal industires.

      The fundamental point is that with global warming, peak oil and a totally unsustainable growth in both population and its expectations, man is catapulting himself into a situation where no man has been before and the old mindsets will no-longer do.
      Man has always been “catapulting himself into a situation where no man has been before”. There is nothing new there. I agree re: population growth, but what do you propose to do about it? Coercive legislation?

      • Draco T Bastard 10.2.1

        It’s also interesting to note that the US that paragon of the free market 🙄 still provides subsidises to the Oil and Coal industires.

        The US loves free-markets – just so long as it’s not theirs. An actual free-market would destroy capitalism as there’s no profit in it (which is how the market should actually operate).

        I agree re: population growth, but what do you propose to do about it? Coercive legislation?

        I’d prefer education where everybody has a good idea as to what their life costs in regards to resources used.

  11. Tim Ellis 11

    Good on the government for going ahead with it.

    For those complaining about the cost benefit ratio, I doubt there was a lot of economic sense in spending an extra 1.7 billion on the waterview tunnel either, which Labour wanted to do.

    • Good on the government for going ahead with it.

      Why?

    • Draco T Bastard 11.2

      What extra $1.7b?
      Last time I looked it was an extra 2 or 3 hundred million and it would keep the community together, not have 165 homes massively devalued and would have been a better option all round.

    • felix 11.3

      Tim has never been good with figures though.

      Or dates for that matter.

      Or names, quotes, accuracy, analogy, original thought, subtext, and definition.

    • jarbury 11.4

      The Waterview Connection, as a full tunnel version, had a BCR of 1.15. The Transmission Gully motorway has a BCR of around 0.3-0.5. Quite a difference don’t you think Tim?

      Whilst this project might be quite strategically important, I think it’s hard to get past the fact that its BCR is so low.

  12. Bill 12

    As white elephants go…….kind of tedious.

    Why not emulate this and sail over Cook Strait in style…..hook it in with Kiwi Rail?

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/dec/15/worlds-longest-sea-bridge

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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Bite-sized learning
    Amelia SharmanThere’s no one-size-fits-all when it comes to micro-credentials, those bits of bite-sized learning that can help workers stay on top of technological change.  What’s a micro-credential? While definitions vary, micro-credentials can be understood as short courses that allow people to learn new skills or have an existing competency recognised. ...
    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    1 week ago
  • “Not The Labour Party We Once Knew.”
    All Smiles Now: Claire Szabo is taking up her presidential role after serving as the CEO of Habitat For Humanity. Which is absolutely perfect! After KiwiBuild was so comprehensively mismanaged by Phil Twyford, the party has not only elected a new president from a thoroughly respectable not-for-profit, but one who ...
    1 week ago
  • Marxist versus liberal methodology on transgender ideology/identity politics
    While much of the NZ left has transitioned to postmodern and identity politics in relation to transgender ideology, there are some very good articles about that deploy Marxist methodology in relation to this subject.  The one below is from the British marxist group Counterfire and appeared on their site here ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    1 week ago
  • Book review: The Farm by Joanne Ramos
    by Daphna Whitmore At Golden Oaks, a luxurious country retreat in the Hudson Valley, pregnant women have the best care money can buy. From the organic food, personalised exercise programmes, private yoga instruction and daily massages Golden Oaks looks like a country lodge for the upper class. Set some time ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • Loosening the purse strings
    When Labour was running for election in 2017, it felt it needed to demonstrate "fiscal responsibility" and signed itself up to masochistic "budget responsibility rules". It was a fool's errand: the sorts of voters who demand fiscal responsibility are also the sorts of voters who believe that labour can never ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Climate Change: How to get there
    Writing in Stuff, Joel MacManus looks at what we need to do to meet the Zero Carbon Act's targets. The core of it:1. Convert 85 per cent of vehicles on the road to electric. 2. Eliminate fossil fuels from all industrial heating up to 300 degrees Celsius. 3. Double our ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • anti-vaxxers in a measles epidemic: so many ways to be untruthful
    “Anti-vaxers are a pro-death movement,” those comments from Dr Helen Petousis-Harris speaking about six more Measles related deaths in Samoa over the past twenty-four hours. “Anti-vaxers are a pro-death movement,” those comments from Dr Helen Petousis-Harris speaking about six more Measles related deaths in Samoa ...
    SciBlogsBy Alison Campbell
    2 weeks ago
  • Is Youth Vaping a Problem in New Zealand?
    Professors Janet Hoek and Richard Edwards, Emeritus Professor Phil Gendall, Jude Ball, Dr Judith McCool, Anaru Waa, Dr Becky Freeman Recent media reports have presented conflicting evidence on youth vaping in NZ. While some NZ school principals report concerns about increasing vaping on school grounds and confiscating vapes, ASH Year ...
    SciBlogsBy Public Health Expert
    2 weeks ago
  • In pursuit of “Freedom and Democracy”: Forever Wars in “America’s backyard”.
    “America the Beautiful!”, staunch defender of democracy, freedom and… a whole lot of despotic tyrants that play nice with what is called “the Washington Consensus.” America is indeed capable of immense good, but like any Nation, and most assuredly any aspirant to the mantle of Empire, great, immense evil. All ...
    exhALANtBy exhalantblog
    2 weeks ago
  • November ’19 – NZ blogs sitemeter ranking
    Image credit: The beginner’s guide to blogging I notice a few regulars no longer allow public access to the site counters. This may happen accidentally when the blog format is altered. If your blog is ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Whodunnit? Finding the mystery 1080 testing lab
    1080 is used to control pests in NZ. Its use is contested by a noisy few. A new report claims high levels of 1080 in rats washed up on a beach. Flora and Fauna of Aotearoa (F&F) won’t name the laboratory that did their testing. It has sparked a hunt ...
    SciBlogsBy Grant Jacobs
    2 weeks ago
  • Authoritarian Friends, Democratic Enemies.
    What Kind Of Empire? The thing for Kiwis to decide is what kind of empire they want to belong to. The kind that, while offering its own citizens democratic rights, demands absolute obedience from its “friends”? Or, the kind that, while authoritarian at home, takes a relaxed attitude to the ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Boris Johnson Goes Down
    It hasn't been a good week for the Conservatives, pollwise.  All major recent polls are showing their lead shrinking.Comparing each pollster's current (between 29/11 and 22/11) and previous most recent poll.Com Res - Conservative lead down 3 points.You Gov - Conservative lead down 1 point.Kantar - Conservative lead down 4 ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Interesting
    Within quick succession, Countdown maths wizard and twitterer Rachel Riley, alleged comedian David Baddiel and prominent lawyer Andrew Julius have all expressed very similar opinions / ideas:
    These #3billboards are going round London today, organised by ex-Labour people, horrified by what their party has become. Their principles haven’t changed, they’re ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Damn the Polls
    So, there have been a bunch of bad polls out for Labour, and even the Leftie's friend, Survation, have recently given the Conservatives a rip-snorting 11% lead.  You Gov's much vaunted MRP poll - which pretty much nailed the result in 2015 - is currently predicting a comfortable majority for ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Climate Change: Europe declares an emergency
    The European Parliament has voted overwhelmingly to declare a climate emergency:The European parliament has declared a global “climate and environmental emergency” as it urged all EU countries to commit to net zero greenhouse gas emissions by 2050. The vote came as scientists warned that the world may have already crossed ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • A Bi-Partisan Commitment To X-ing “P”.
    Pure Fear: Worse than Heroin, this drug’s addictive power was terrifying. People under its influence didn’t drift off to Elysium. Nor did it persuade inadequate individuals that they could conquer the world. No, this drug – pure crystal methamphetamine, “P” for short – unlocked the gates of Hell itself. It ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Advice about measles: when ignorance is definitely not a virtue
    As the rate of measles infection, and of deaths, continues to climb in Samoa, antivaccination activists infectious disease proponents seem intent on doubling down on their claims about vaccination. (Check pretty much any news-media FB post about measles & you’ll see exactly what I mean.) Unfortunately, some of them have ...
    SciBlogsBy Alison Campbell
    2 weeks ago

  • Government takes bite out of loan sharks
    The days of vulnerable consumers falling victim to loan sharks, truck shops and other predatory lenders are numbered, following the Credit Contracts Legislation Amendment Bill passing its third reading tonight. “Too many Kiwis are being given loans that are unaffordable and unsuitable, trapping them in debt and leaving their families ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    12 hours ago
  • New Zealand safer as Terrorism Suppression (Control Orders Bill) becomes law
    A Bill that prevents terrorism and supports the de-radicalisation of New Zealanders returning from overseas has passed its third reading, Justice Minister Andrew Little says. The Terrorism Suppression (Control Orders) Bill is a carefully targeted response to manage the risk posed by a small number of New Zealanders who have ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    13 hours ago
  • Foreign Minister and Pacific Peoples Minister to visit Samoa
    Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Peters and Minister for Pacific Peoples Aupito William Sio will travel to Samoa on Friday, where New Zealand medical teams are helping Samoa respond to an outbreak of measles. “New Zealand has been working closely with the Government of Samoa and offering our assistance from the ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    13 hours ago
  • New Pastoral Care Code will support tertiary students in 2020
    The Government has changed the law to improve student safety and welfare in university halls of residence and other student accommodation. The Education (Pastoral Care) Amendment Bill passed its third reading this afternoon and details of an interim Code of Practice setting out the Government’s expectations of tertiary providers have also been released. ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    13 hours ago
  • New infrastructure funding tool to build housing developments faster
    A new tool to help councils fund and finance infrastructure could mean some housing developments happen a decade earlier than currently planned, Urban Development Minister Phil Twyford said today. “This new tool, developed by the Government in partnership with industry and high-growth councils, will allow councils to access private debt ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    15 hours ago
  • Vision to unite the primary sector launched today
    Agriculture Minister Damien O’Connor has welcomed the release of a bold new vision for the country’s vital food and fibre sector. “I’m delighted that New Zealand’s major farmer and grower organisations are today supporting the Primary Sector Council’s vision – Fit for a Better World,” he said. “The international consumers ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    17 hours ago
  • NZ congratulates PNG and Autonomous Bougainville Government on referendum
    Foreign Minister Winston Peters has congratulated the Government of Papua New Guinea and the Autonomous Bougainville Government for completing a well-conducted referendum on the future political status of Bougainville. “New Zealand supported the referendum process by providing technical advice through the New Zealand Electoral Commission and leading a Regional Police ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    18 hours ago
  • Next steps for Upper North Island logistics
    In light of Cabinet’s position that freight operations on prime land in downtown Auckland are no longer viable, the Government will now embark on a short work programme to enable decision-making in the first half of next year, Associate Transport Minister Shane Jones says. Minister Jones is today releasing the ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    18 hours ago
  • Surgical mesh restorative justice report received
    Associate Health Minister Julie Anne Genter has received the report back from a surgical mesh restorative justice process undertaken by Victoria University. The process heard stories, either in person or online submission, from more than 600 people affected by surgical mesh. “The report made for heart-breaking and confronting reading,” says ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    19 hours ago
  • The Water Services Regulator Bill – Taumata Arowai a milestone for drinking water safety
    The Water Services Regulator Bill – Taumata Arowai , introduced to Parliament today, is a milestone for drinking water safety in New Zealand and will help improve environmental outcomes for urban waterways, rivers and lakes.  “This is a breakthrough for New Zealanders in terms of providing safe drinking water throughout ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    20 hours ago
  • Speech to new direction for criminal justice reform announcement
    Kia ora koutouE ngā mana, e ngā reo, e ngā matā wakaTēnā koutou katoaHaere ngā, moe maiKoutou ma ngā Rangatira Ko Anaru ahauKo au te Minita mo ngā TureHe Honore tino nui kei roto I ahau No reira tena koutou katoa Today, we are releasing two reports that are the ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    21 hours ago
  • New direction for criminal justice reform
    The Government is looking to turn around the long-term challenges of criminal justice by taking a new approach to break the cycle of offending to ensure there are fewer victims of crime. Justice Minister Andrew Little released two reports today, Turuki! Turuki! from Te Uepū Hāpai I te Ora, and ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    21 hours ago
  • New law sets up $300m Venture Capital Fund
    New Zealand firms expanding beyond the start-up phase are set for more support after today’s passage of the Venture Capital Fund Bill, Associate Finance Minister David Parker said. The Bill, which establishes a $300 million Venture Capital Fund, puts in place a key initiative of the Wellbeing Budget’s economic package. ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago
  • New Zealand’s National Statement to COP25
    E ngā mana, e ngā reo, e ngā iwi, e ngā rau rangatira mā. Tēnā koutou, tēnā koutou, tēnā koutou katoa. Señora Presidenta, Excellencies, Delegates. International action A common thread that runs through the Paris Agreement is the commitment we have made to each other to do what we can to ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • $12 billion in extra infrastructure investment
    The Government is lifting capital investment to the highest level in more than 20 years as it takes the next step to future-proof New Zealand. Finance Minister Grant Robertson has announced $12 billion of new investment, with $8 billion for specific capital projects and $4 billion to be added to ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • Strong economy, careful spending gives $12bn of surpluses
    The Government is forecast to run $12 billion worth of surpluses across the four years to 2023/24 as the economy continues to grow. The surpluses will help fund day-to-day capital requirements each year. These include fixing leaky hospitals, building new classrooms to cover population growth and take pressure off class ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • Priorities for 2020 Wellbeing Budget outlined
    Budget 2020 will continue the Coalition Government’s focus on tackling the long-term challenges facing New Zealand while also investing to future-proof the economy. When the Government took office in 2017 it was left with crumbling infrastructure, severe underinvestment in public services, degraded rivers and lakes, a housing crisis and rising ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • Minister welcomes data-rich coastline mapping tool
    The Minister responsible for the Marine and Coastal Area (Takutai Moana) Act 2011 (te Takutai Moana Act 2011), Andrew Little has welcomed the launch of an online geospatial tool that provides data-rich, dynamic coastline maps that will significantly boost research and evidence-gathering under the Act. Te Kete Kōrero a Te ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • Chief Victims Advisor reappointed for a further two years
    The Chief Victims Advisor to Government Dr Kim McGregor, QSO, has been reappointed in her role for a further two years. Dr McGregor has held the role since it was established in November 2015. She provides independent advice to government on how to improve the criminal justice system for victims. ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • New Zealand tsunami monitoring and detection system to be established
    Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Peters and Civil Defence Minister Peeni Henare have today announced the deployment of a network of DART (Deep-ocean Assessment and Reporting of Tsunami) buoys. “New Zealand and the Pacific region are particularly vulnerable to natural disasters. It is vital we have adequate warning systems in place,” ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • DART Buoys Announcement
    DART Buoys Announcement Aotea Wharf, 9.30am 11 December 2019   Acknowledgements Acknowledgements to Minister for Civil Defence Hon Peeni Henare also here today. White Island It is with regret that this event shadows the tragic natural disaster two days ago. The volcanic eruptions on White Island have claimed 5 lives, ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • Final steps for racing industry reform
    Racing Minister Winston Peters has welcomed the first reading of the Racing Industry Bill in parliament today. This is the second of two Bills that have been introduced this year to revitalise New Zealand’s racing industry. “Our domestic racing industry has been in serious decline.  The Government is committed to ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Funding to promote New Zealand Sign Language initiatives
    Minister for Disability Issues, Carmel Sepuloni, is pleased to announce that $291,321 is to be awarded to national and local community initiatives to maintain and promote the use of New Zealand Sign Language (NZSL). “New Zealand is one of the few countries  in the world where Sign Language is an ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • How New Zealand defines and recognises veterans
    Minister for Veterans Ron Mark has announced today the Coalition Government’s initial response to work completed by the independent statutory body, the Veterans’ Advisory Board. “When Professor Ron Paterson completed his review of the Veterans’ Support Act in 2018, he made a number of recommendations, including one which I referred ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Government to fund lion’s share of Ohakea water scheme
    The Government will fund the bulk of the cost of a rural water supply for the Ohakea community affected by PFAS contamination, Environment Minister David Parker announced today at a meeting of local residents. This new water scheme will provide a reliable and clean source of drinking water to the ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Prime Minister statement on White Island eruption
    I have had the opportunity to be briefed on the details of the volcanic eruption of Whakaari/White Island, off the coast of Whakatane in the Bay of Plenty.  The eruption happened at 2.11pm today.  It continues to be an evolving situation.  We know that there were a number of tourists ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Govt funds $100k for weather-hit communities
    Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern and Minister of Civil Defence Peeni Henare have today confirmed initial Government support of $100,000 for communities affected by the severe weather that swept across the South Island and lower North Island over the weekend. The contribution will be made to Mayoral relief funds across the ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • Death of NZ High Commissioner to Cook Islands
    New Zealand's High Commissioner to the Cook Islands, Tessa Temata, died in Palmerston North over the weekend, Foreign Minister Winston Peters said today. Ms Temata, 52, had recently returned to New Zealand for medical treatment. "On behalf of the Government and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Trade, we extend ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • Wellington rail upgrade full steam ahead
    Transport Minister Phil Twyford today announced construction is underway on Wellington commuter rail upgrades which will mean more frequent services and fewer breakdowns. The upgrades include converting the Trentham to Upper Hutt single track section to a double track, with a new signalling system, upgraded stations and level crossings, and ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • Defence Climate Change Implementation Plan released
    Minister of Defence Ron Mark and Minister for Climate Change James Shaw have announced the release of a Defence Climate Change Implementation Work Plan, titled Responding to the Climate Crisis: An Implementation Plan.  The plan sets out a series of recommendations based on the 2018 New Zealand Defence Assessment, The ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • Govt releases funding to support South Canterbury
    A medium-scale adverse event has been declared for the South Canterbury district, which will see up to $50,000 in funding made available to support farming communities which have been significantly affected by recent heavy rain and flooding in the area, says Agriculture Minister Damien O’Connor. “Two weeks of solid rain ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Speech at launch of Rethinking Plastics Report
    Thank you Professor Juliet Gerrard and your team for the comprehensive and extremely helpful report and recommendations. Thank you too to all the stakeholders and interested parties who have contributed ideas and thinking to it. “Making best practice, standard practice” is a great framework for change and the action plan ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Govt pledges next steps on plastic waste
    The Government will phase out more single-use plastics following the success of its single-use plastic bag ban earlier this year and the release today of a pivotal report for dealing with waste. Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern has welcomed the Rethinking Plastics in Aotearoa New Zealandreport, released by her Chief Science Advisor ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • International student enrolments grow in universities and the regions
    International education continues to thrive as the Government focuses on quality over quantity, Education Minister Chris Hipkins said. The tuition revenue from international education increased to $1.16 billion last year with the average tuition fee per student increasing by $960. The total number of international students enrolled in New Zealand ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Speech to Government Economics Network 2019 Conference
    I want to talk about one of the most pressing issues in our national life: the housing crisis and the poor performance of our cities. The argument I want to make to you is that generations of urban land use policy have lacked a decent grounding in economics. The consequences ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • DHB leadership renewed and strengthened
    Health Minister Dr David Clark says new appointments to DHBs represent a significant changing of the guard, with 13 new chairs including four Māori chairs. Today 76 appointments have been announced to complement elected board members, as well as eight elected members appointed as either chair or deputy chair.  Four ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Tabuteau to advance New Zealand’s trade and political interests with European partners
    Parliamentary Under-Secretary for Foreign Affairs, Fletcher Tabuteau, is travelling to Germany, Poland, Austria, and Spain next week to bolster New Zealand’s political and trade relationships in Europe. While in Spain, Mr Tabuteau will represent New Zealand at the 14th Asia-Europe (ASEM) Foreign Ministers’ Meeting in Madrid. “New Zealand strongly supports ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    7 days ago
  • Statement from the Prime Minister on Kris Faafoi
    “I’ve spoken to Minister Faafoi, who has apologised for his poor handling of this issue,” Jacinda Ardern said. “I have confidence in Kris as a hardworking and effective Minister, but this should have been dealt with in a much clearer manner, and I’ve made my views on that very clear ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    7 days ago
  • Tonga-New Zealand Joint Ministerial Forum
    Deputy Prime Minister Winston Peters met with Tongan Prime Minister and Foreign Minister Pohiva Tu'i'onetoa in Wellington today. The pair signed a Statement of Partnership setting out joint priorities for cooperation out to 2023.  “We welcomed Prime Minister Tu'i'onetoa on his first visit to New Zealand as Prime Minister. Tonga ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    7 days ago
  • Shooting in Kurow
    The Minister of Police Stuart Nash says his sympathies are with the family of a man who died after being shot by Police in Kurow. “Initial reports are that Police were called by a family member to help the man who was threatening to harm himself,” Mr Nash says. “However ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    7 days ago