#Trumpcare

Written By: - Date published: 8:44 am, March 16th, 2017 - 22 comments
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The Donald is on a roll. He is ready to rid America of the scourge that is Obamacare.

What is Obamacare? It is a communist inspired plot to sap America of its greatness. The technique that it uses is completely unamerican. It depends on healthy Americans contributing to the cost of other Americans who are having problems with their hearth.

So in its place the Republicans have proposed a new Act, titled the American Health Care Act. What does it achieve? From the Washington Post:

House Republicans’ proposal to rewrite federal health-care law would more than reverse the gains the Affordable Care Act has made in the number of Americans with health insurance, while curbing the federal deficit, according to a widely anticipated forecast by congressional analysts.

The analysis, released late Monday afternoon by the Congressional Budget Office, predicts that 24 million fewer people would have coverage a decade from now than if the Affordable Care Act remains intact, nearly doubling the share of Americans who are uninsured from 10 percent to 19 percent. The office projects the number of uninsured people would jump 14 million after the first year

But the GOP legislation, which has been speeding through House committees since it was introduced a week ago, would lower the deficit by $337 billion during that time, primarily by lessening spending on Medicaid and government aid for people buying health plans on their own.

The report predicted that premiums would be 15 percent to 20 percent higher in the first year compared with those under the Affordable Care Act but 10 percent lower on average after 2026. By and large, older Americans would pay “substantially” more and younger Americans less.

And get this! There is a tax cut for the rich.  And the richer you are the bigger the tax cut.  From CNBC:

The proposed repeal of taxes that were put in place to fund Obamacare would give America’s top earners the biggest tax cut.

According to an analysis by the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center, the health-care bill introduced by House Republicans last week would give the top 1 percent of earners a cut worth about 2 percent of their after-tax incomes. That shakes out to an average of $37,240 per year. The Tax Policy center defines the top 1 percent of Americans as those making more than $772,000.

The top 0.1 percent of earners, those making $3.9 million or more, would fare even better. They would see their taxes cut by 2.6 percent, or an average $207,390.

The middle 20 percent of earners, who make between $52,600 and $89,400, would see a tax cut of just 0.5 percent — or about $300 a year. The lowest earners, or those in the bottom 20 percent, would receive an average reduction of $150, or 0.9 percent.

And those faring the worst are Trump supporters.  From the New York Times:

The people who stand to lose the most in tax credits under the House Republican health plan tended to support Donald J. Trump over Hillary Clinton in the 2016 election, according to a new Upshot analysis.

Over all, voters who would be eligible for a tax credit that would be at least $1,000 smaller than the subsidy they’re eligible for under Obamacare supported Mr. Trump over Hillary Clinton by a seven-point margin.

The voters hit the hardest — eligible for at least $5,000 less in tax credits under the Republican plan — supported Mr. Trump by a margin of 59 percent to 36 percent.

Take that suckers.

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  1. Sabine 1
    16 March 2017 at 9:06 am

    republican healthcare – aka the ownership society

    you are on your Own
    if you get sick
    die, quickly and silently.

  2. Infused 2
    16 March 2017 at 9:22 am

    Obamacare was shit. Just look at all the instances where people’s insurance has tripled over the last year and who can no longer afford it. It was a disaster.

    • mickysavage 2.1
      16 March 2017 at 9:55 am

      Citation please. And not Breitbart.

      • Tophat 2.1.1
        16 March 2017 at 11:02 am

        In the style of our dear prime minister I have some anecdotal evidence. 😉
        I have several friends in the states, for this post I will use 2 of them, 1 a doctor the other a linesman for a telephone company.

        1. Our doctor is well qualified in their field and had to relocate. She got a job in a Govt facility on a trial that involved only part time employment. The trial period came and went with no communication in regards to the result. When a query was lodged she was told her trial period had indeed finished and she could stay on with “part time” conditions. Now although working a normal doctors 84 hour week, as soon as they are put on full time they are entitled to health care. She is still employed on a part time basis some 3 years later.

        2. Our linesman was in the same boat. He approached his boss inre a full time position. In time he got his full time contract minus the health cover. He complained, his boss was fined and he still got no health care. Turns out that the initial fine costs far less than it did to provide health cover, said fine is also discounted in various ways. he is still without health care. he had an accident at work, could not afford a doctor or medication. he is now no better off than a junky with a job. Self medicating, he can buy his pain killers for far less on the street than he can get them from licit means.

        While I see that the medicaid plan the Don is rolling out to be a total crock of shit, I also understand that Obama’s plan has served to undermine employment conditions and provide no more security than previous plans had.

        • Draco T Bastard 2.1.1.1
          16 March 2017 at 11:07 am

          That doesn’t sound like a problem with Obamacare but other regulations and corrupt managers.

          • Sabine 2.1.1.1.1
            16 March 2017 at 11:14 am

            But but Trumpcare will be beautiful and it will cover everyone with a load of golden hued bullshit, and that golden hued bullshit will give the unwashed masses ‘access’ to healthcare.

            Now lets go grab some kittens.

          • McFlock 2.1.1.1.2
            16 March 2017 at 11:27 am

            Yeah – although I don’t have much time for him, Michael Moore (the Bomber bradley of the US film industry) did have an interesting story about being on TV talking about the casualised workforce, and during the break it turned out that some of the camera operators who had been working on that show for literal decades were still casual temps, just for the employer to get out of legal obligations.

          • Tophat 2.1.1.1.3
            17 March 2017 at 10:46 am

            Simply it is a problem with Obama care and it’s administration. Caused by Republicans gutting it or otherwise this was not an issue previously.

            • Draco T Bastard 2.1.1.1.3.1
              17 March 2017 at 5:48 pm

              Yeah, no, it does appear that it was an issues before hand.

              And I’m definitely going to believe Mike Moore over you.

              • Tophat …
                20 March 2017 at 10:30 am

                That you’d take the word of a left leaning provocateur at face value is somewhat disturbing and speaks volumes of your narrow mindedness.
                Of course Mr Moore avoids anything to this tune as it does not fit his narrative. In turn it wouldn’t help sell his movies and would upset his Democratic Party mates.
                Take an objective view DTB, otherwise your opinion is severely devalued.
                I do not mind at all that you challenge my opinion, but you have done nothing to convince me that you are in fact correct in your assertions.

                in post; I have asked one of the people I used as an example to post a reply to this thread. They will attempt to do so some time today.

                • Draco T Bastard …
                  20 March 2017 at 10:50 am

                  Who said I took it at face value?

                  I said I’d believe him over you.

                  And I always take an objective view – comes with the autism.

                  We have evidence that business people will do whatever they can to avoid doing the right thing if it lowers their profits.
                  We have you providing anecdotal evidence of same.
                  We have Mike Moore saying the same thing has been happening for decades.

                  So, all you’ve got now is to say that you were actually lying here but that doesn’t work either because of the other evidence that shows that business people really are scum.

                  • Tophat …
                    20 March 2017 at 11:11 am

                    Calling me a liar is not going to win your argument for you as taking my words out of context won’t either. Especially after characterising yourself as being on the spectrum while suggesting that objectiveness is a trait. lol@ you. If so you belong to the biggest group of single minded people on the planet. That’s a fact as, ” Autism is a neurodevelopmental disorder characterized by impaired social interaction, verbal and non-verbal communication,” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism

                    Until a few years ago I served your community in an administrative role for approx a decade.
                    So Draco who’s full of it now mate?

                    in post again; I also know full well that I am waisting my good time arguing a point with someone on the spectrum. So I will leave you at that sorry. Nothing personal, you’re the one who decided to fall back on an this disorder to excuse yourself.

        • Barfly 2.1.1.2
          17 March 2017 at 12:38 am

          so they are all the same? …so you should disengage?… do you get paid for this?

    • Draco T Bastard 2.2
      16 March 2017 at 11:05 am

      Of course it was shit – the Republicans forced it to be shit.

      The US needs full state health care. It’s the cheapest, most efficient health care around but the republicans don’t want that as there’s no profit in it for the bludging shareholders.

    • joe90 2.3
      16 March 2017 at 11:32 am

      It was a disaster.

      Tripled, you say.

      (McArdle ain’t no bleeding heart)

      @jpodhoretz For older people at 175% FPL, premiums shoot up by $12k, from $1700 to over $14k. For older people at 450% of FPL, goes down.— (((Megan McArdle))) (@asymmetricinfo) March 13, 2017

      @jpodhoretz Hard so see how someone making $21k a year pays a $14k insurance premium.— (((Megan McArdle))) (@asymmetricinfo) March 13, 2017

    • adam 2.4
      16 March 2017 at 1:26 pm

      I see infused is back to lying to help him score points.

      Ever wondered why people get upset with you on this infused? Ever worked out it’s actually peoples lives you derogate, so you can play the silly trolling game?

  3. Macro 3
    16 March 2017 at 11:29 am

    “TrumpCare” really doesn’t cut the mustard as far as I’m concerned.
    My own name for this ridiculous “Health Care” Plan* rolled out by the Republicans – who, by the way, have had 8 years to think about it, and get it “right” would be:
    “TrumpDoesn’tCare”

    * Note the deliberate use of quotes! a la “wiretapp” 🙄

    24 million to become uninsured out of 320 million.
    Persons earning over $1m get tax benefits totaling up to $164B.
    Over 65s premiums quintupling…
    Yeah Every one is covered! Would be the latest Tui ad.

  4. Tophat 4
    16 March 2017 at 11:39 am

    I found this explanation of the political stand points involved to be helpful;

  5. Ad 5
    16 March 2017 at 5:00 pm

    Not even sure how much this plan can be attributed to President Trump as distinct from the GOP and the Congress majority.

    This, together with the failure of his Obama wiretapping accusation, and the Courts further stopping his immigration policy, will keep his approval ratings continuing right through the 40% barrier, and head to 30%.

    Trump is struggling.

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