Trump’s social media summit

Written By: - Date published: 8:57 am, July 13th, 2019 - 36 comments
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I must admit some trepidation in writing anti Trump posts.  I thought they would be universally acclaimed and accepted on this site.  But like Brexit there is a significant number of lefties who think differently to me.

And why do I attack Trump?  Well he is a climate change denier misogynist who does not pay his bills and cultivates relationships with white supremacists and attacks the press for holding him to account and has a terifying lack of grasp of the nuances of International relationships and he is a bully but apart from that I am sure he is a swell guy.  I would prefer that he was not nominally in charge of the world that I live in. And I don’t think Hillary would have been as bad.

But some lefties think that to attack Trumps to attack the far left.  I am still trying to work that out.

He has recently been holding a Social Media Summit.

Think Jacinda’s post Christchurch Massacre summit but with the completely opposite goal and full of crazy people.

Remember Ardern’s international gathering?  The Herald had this description:

Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern has opened the Christchurch Call summit in Paris with an appeal to tech companies to review their business models that can pull users down dark rabbit holes to radicalisation.

And she is asking online platforms like Facebook, YouTube, and Twitter – considered to be so global in reach to not have to answer to anyone – to be more transparent by publishing progress reports regularly.

Ardern arrived at the Elysee Palace to a French guard of honour and a warm la bise greeting – a kiss on each cheek – from French President Emmanuel Macron, who hosted lunch.

Later representatives from Facebook, Twitter, Google, Microsoft, Wikimedia and Qwant as well as the leaders of seven countries and the European Union arrived for the summit.

The Christchurch Call to Action aims to take collective action to prevent a repeat of how the terror attack on March 15 was weaponised on social media.

“I stand before you with the 51 lives lost in New Zealand heavy on my mind,” Ardern said in her opening address to the summit.

“The hearts of Aotearoa still ache … Let us all here the call from Christchurch today.”

Ardern asked tech companies to enforce the standards they already have by preventing such content from being uploaded in the first place.

She also addressed the business models of social media companies that are designed to grab users’ attention in a way that can pull them into a single and increasingly radical narrative.

“We ask that you assess how your algorithms funnel people to extremist content and make transparent that work.

Pretty hard to disagree with.  Unless you think that racial hatred should be tolerated. Funnily enough Trump did not show up to that meeting of International leaders.

Instead he thought he should have a summit to celebrate the complete and unfettered freedom of freedom of expression. The sort that appears to have energised he who shall not be named

So what did the Trump gathering want to achieve?

So one gathering involved many leaders from throughout the world talking about how the worst excesses of social media could cause evil, and another gathering involved a bunch of trolls celebrating the evil that social media could create because at least its guy would have power.

One leader wanted to prevent further atrocities. The other leader wants to get re-elected no matter what.

Trump’s meeting attracted some heavy weight intellectual fire power.

And unlike Ardern’s meeting Trump did not want to have the heavyweight social media companies at his meeting. Vice had this description in anticipation of the big event:

Tomorrow, President Donald Trump is meeting with a series of right wing figures at the White House to discuss social media issues. But Facebook and Twitter won’t be there. In fact, the only social media network that has publicly said it’s attending is Minds—billed as the crypto “anti-Facebook” and once home to several neo-Nazi extremist groups.

Pulp, a public relations firm that counts Minds among its client list, sent Motherboard a photo of the invitation the fringe social media site received to the White House for the summit.

“Minds.com is the only social media network invited to the White House’s social media summit!” wrote the Pulp representative in an email to Motherboard. Facebook and Twitter, social media companies with an astronomically larger number of users than Minds, were excluded from the summit.

A previous Motherboard investigation found that miliant neo-Nazi groups connected to Atomwaffen Division—a violent American hate group connected to several murders—was using Minds as a platform for recruiting and spreading propaganda. Minds eventually banned the accounts when Motherboard showed them to the platform, but the company’s lax content moderation allowed them to proliferate unchecked for months.

The White House declined to comment on the guest list of the summit, but Trump has made the perceived “bias” against conservatives by social media companies one of his core talking points in recent months. Earlier this year, Trump met with Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey and reportedly discussed such pressing issues as why his follower count declined.

Well hand me a tinfoil hat and call me a George Soros disciple but I get the feeling that the Trump gathering may have been in response to the Ardern gathering.  CNN provides this background to who was invited:

The White House has not extended invitations to Facebook and Twitter to attend its social media summit on Thursday, people familiar with the matter said.

The people, who spoke to CNN Business on the condition of anonymity, suggested it was not surprising. They said they believe the summit would amount to a right-wing grievance session and was not aimed at seriously discussing some of the issues facing large technology companies.
A spokesperson for the White House declined to comment.

The White House announced the summit in June, describing it as an event to bring together “digital leaders for a robust conversation on the opportunities and challenges of today’s online environment.”

So compare and contrast.  Am I being too conspiracist on it or was this a Trump attempt to undermine what Ardern wants to achieve?

36 comments on “Trump’s social media summit”

  1. "One leader wanted to prevent further atrocities. The other leader wants to get re-elected no matter what." Why shouldn't she seek re-election?

  2. More swollen than swell, methinks.

  3. marty mars 3

    anyone trumpish isn't left so just forget that mate – you know this as well as I do – they are sorta proud of it

    leave them to the middle, and their delusions

    t.rump is driven by base desires – wouldn't surprise me if he was trying to better our PM – he is so slow, so low, so so so, in all he does.

    • Dukeofurl 3.1

      I agree. The Trumpanzees that turn up here  would  be comical if not the underlying tones of white nationalists who love everything about him, in reality hes a disgrace

  4. Laugh of the day so far: "Trump’s meeting attracted some heavy weight intellectual fire power." followed by that pic of Joy Villa.

  5. One Two 5

    Must be good for a few clicks…eh MS.

    Censorship is rife in the digital shere and rapidly propagating …including via direct requests from within congress.

    You know that is going on, right?

    • Incognito 5.1

      Must be good for a few clicks…eh MS.

      Way to miss the point; did you read the Post?

      Only a few hundred clicks so far, none of which have any impact whatsoever as this site doesn’t place any ads and doesn’t have a revenue stream based on clicks or anything else for that matter.

  6. Anne 6

    Yes, Jacinda Ardern has surely made the illustrious list of 'Trump's enemies no 1′. How dare she organise a Social Media summit attended by world leaders and one which was greeted with such international acclaim. Of course he was going to have one of his own to counter the good work she and Macron achieved.

    It has been said that an invitation is waiting for our PM when she returns from her short holiday. NZ has been invited by the USA to join a "multinational military coalition force" led by the USA to safeguard the waters around Iran and Yeman.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12248984

    Now someone remind me, who has got a re-election campaign coming up and part of the strategy is to provoke a war with Iran? I remember, it's Donald Trump. So, who is sending unmanned drones into Iranian airspace thus provoking responses from Iran? That's right, Donald Trump. And who 'requested' the UK govt. seize an Iranian tanker in the Mediterranean thus provoking further hostile responses? It was US military command probably under orders from Donald Trump.

    And assuming our prime-minister will politely decline joining this military coalition we can expect the wrath of this

     climate change denying misogynist who does not pay his bills and cultivates relationships with white supremacists and attacks the press for holding him to account and has a terrifying lack of grasp of the nuances of International relationships and he is a bully 

    president in the form of an incoherent tongue lashing  twitter attack on NZ – at the very least.

  7. Observer Tokoroa 7

    The American Bully

    Hello there Micky Savage.  I shouldn't be too disturbed by that American Despot –  Donald “Hey Look at Me” Trump.

    He goes around telling himself how great he is.  Then immediately he passes the great word on to the ever gullible "Donald Duck" American Citizens.

    IQ is not noticeably high – in Donald Land.

    Trump hires pathetic, dangerous, fraudulent, abysmal Staff and aides. In other words, he hires people who are head to head copies of his wretched self. A few of them seem to have cases of serious Sex crimes pending.

    One thing we do know – is that Americans don't win wars. Not the North Korean fiasco. Not Vietnam. Not Afganistan.

    His little Chinese North Korean Guy is trampling all over our Donald Duck.

  8. Peter 8

    Compare and contrast? That's a challenge – finding a reasonable analogy.

    How about saying Trump has about as much class as the toe nail clippings of someone like Jacinda Ardern?

  9. Ad 9

    also a great day to see hundreds of old white guys surrendering their military weapons to the state, through a lawArdern led through our parliament.

    • Chris T 9.1

      ??

      I know this may be hard for you to comprehend, but it isn't just old white blokes who are handing in guns

      Unless you have some weird racist tendency to think all the other gun owners aren't honest enough?

      Mmmm

      • Incognito 9.1.1

        Maybe it was a reference to white supremacists?

        • Chris T 9.1.1.1

          I would imagine what ever miniscule amount of white supremacists we have in NZ would be like gangs and wouldn't be handing them in.

          • Incognito 9.1.1.1.1

            I suggested it was a “reference” but only Ad can answer for himself.

          • Jess NZ 9.1.1.1.2

            I hear they are buying big plumbing pipes and wrapping the guns in them and burying them and laughing at how clever they are. To me, that's practically as good a result. They're not available to be stolen or used accidentally or badly, which cuts out most of the statistical harm.

            http://gunviolencearchive.org

  10. marty mars 10

    classic t.rump – even he can't believe it!

    “People come up to me: ‘Sir, we want to follow you; they don’t let us on,’” he said.

    “I have millions of people, so many people I wouldn’t believe it, but I know that we’ve been blocked.

    “When I put out something, a good one that people like, right? A good tweet. It goes up,” Trump said. “It used to go up, it would say: 7,000; 7,008; 7,017; 7,024; 7,032; 7,044. Right? Now it goes: 7,000; 7,008; 6,998. Then they go: 7,009; 6,074. I said, what’s going on? It never did that before. It goes up, and then they take it down. Then it goes up. I never had it. Does anyone know what I’m talking about with this?”

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jul/12/trumps-far-right-twitter-summit-the-most-bizarre-highlights

  11. Adrian Thornton 11

    Mickey Savage..you say you don't understand why many Lefties don't agree with the incessant focus on Trump…fair enough, then let  me tell you why some feel this way.

    Firstly, the constant and almost maniacal focus on Trump, as if he is some kind of outlier in US politics and policy is a complete red herring, his methods might be different, however the overall results are very similar, he is business as usual for US corporations, wall st, foreign policy, the 1% etc, even his appalling stance on immigration in nothing new in US politics

    Secondly Tell me where and when did the Democrates own their loss in the most winnable election in post war US history?, when did the self examination happen, and then the proposed changes put forward for discussion and evaluation? It is said one of the signs of madness is to do thing same action over and over and expect a different result…if that is true then the Democratic establishment strategy for 2020 is fucking crazy.

    Thirdly, One of the few things that Trump is right about is that MSM is a disseminator of fake news, one of the worst culprits in spreading disinformation on the new progressive  movement today is not FOX or right wing media  it is liberal MSM The Guardian, Washington Post, NYTimes, Huffington Post, an example from FAIR today.

    For NYT, Inconvenient Facts Equal ‘Russian-Style Disinformation’                              https://fair.org/home/for-nyt-inconvenient-facts-equal-russian-style-disinformation/

    The good old Guardian tearing down Corbyn in a classic…

    Yes, Jeremy Corbyn has suffered a bad press, but where's the harm?                                 https://www.theguardian.com/media/greenslade/2016/jul/19/yes-jeremy-corbyn-has-suffered-a-bad-press-but-wheres-the-harm

    Our report found that 75% of press coverage misrepresents Jeremy Corbyn – we can't ignore media bias anymore                                                                                                 https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/jeremy-corbyn-media-bias-labour-mainstream-press-lse-study-misrepresentation-we-cant-ignore-bias-a7144381.html

    So where is the outrage at this?, nope Trump Trump Trump, the 'centre left' (for want of a better term, others come to mind) haven't seemed to realized that their project of a new wave of pretty young leaders as being the new face and saviours of Liberalism have been a unmitigated disaster..Obama…left Trump as his legacy, Trudeau polls in free fall, Macron facing almost revolution on his own doorstep, Ardern winning our own election by only a hairs breath after three terms of the austerity and ravages of National.

    Trudeau now has a lower approval rating than Trump, with Tories way ahead: Ipsos poll                                                                                                                                       https://globalnews.ca/news/5103763/trudeau-approval-rating-snc-lavalin-budget/

    Until Liberalism is pronounced dead by the Left and we renounce the project as a failure, make amends with the massive base of fellow citizens so hurt and crushed by it's devilish ideology, then and only then can the Left offer a very real opposition to the rising right…by banging on and on about Trump or Russian or Assange or fake news, is handing the rising Right a very real path to further their gains, and entrench themselves…that is just some our problem with your focus on Trump.

    Turn Labour Left!                             

    • Andre 11.1

      That would all be very nice, if it wasn't coming from a second-option bias fantasist that reads a line like "…corporate media are eager to enter their junior year of the Russiagate conspiracy, despite its utter obliteration by Robert Mueller in April." and apparently thinks yeah, right on.

      • Adrian Thornton 11.1.1

        I agree the wording isn't ideal, however the fact remains that Russiagate was nothing more than a fantasy, one that you it seems you are still indulging yourself in…it's a bit sad to watch, bit I guess that's your business.

        Now if you have some problems with some of the actual facts in that article, then please point them out to us.

        Put up or shut up.

        • Andre 11.1.1.1

          Meanwhile, let's remind ourselves of the values of liberalism that you're so contemptuous of:

          Liberalism is a political and moral philosophy based on liberty, consent of the governed, and equality before the law. Liberals espouse a wide array of views depending on their understanding of these principles, but they generally support limited government, individual rights (including civil rights and human rights), capitalism (free markets), democracy, secularism, gender equality, racial equality, internationalism, freedom of speech, freedom of the press and freedom of religion.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism

          I'd put a few caveats and regulations around the free markets bit to try to limit abuses by the powerful. But the rest of it is stuff I value. Perhaps you'd like to explain which of those values of liberalism you find offensive and want to do away with?

          You also appear totally out of touch about your place in the political continuum relative to the American voting public. There's a very good argument that one of the contributors to Clinton's loss was that she in fact did take a sharp turn to the left. So much so that someone looking for a centrist candidate that was willing to excuse the Fraud from Fifth Avenue's personal detestable characteristics, and project their hopes and dreams onto his nonsensical contradictory pronouncements that scattered across wide range ideologies, well, he was in fact the more centrist candidate.

          https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/voters-think-trump-has-moved-to-the-right/

          • Adrian Thornton 11.1.1.1.1

            Please stop obfuscating, as I said previously, please point out the factual mistakes of the article you ridiculed, then maybe lets move on to a wider discussion.

            • Andre 11.1.1.1.1.1

              I've pointed out below how the FAIR article starts with a big steaming pile right at the start.

              Now, how about you explain a bit more about what values of liberalism you're so contemptuous of and want to get rid of.

        • Andre 11.1.1.2

          The starting paragraph of your FAIR piece is an misleading distortion – what Mueller's report said was the investigation "did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities.". That is, they didn't think they had enough evidence to prove something in court. Compare that to how the FAIR piece described it: “corporate media are eager to enter their junior year of the Russiagate conspiracy, despite its utter obliteration by Robert Mueller “.

          The rest of the piece goes on and on with the same kinds of misleading distortions and emotive language, all well-calculated to reinforce second-option bias fantasists' mistrust of the media.

          That kind of bullshit is harmful. It is clearly designed to get the reader to reflexively reject what is in the mainstream media. That is a very different proposition to assessing an article critically to form an opinion on how much weight to give it or how much to hold off forming an opinion until further corroborating information comes out (or not).

  12. Adrian Thornton 12

    So you don't like the tone, so what, that is exactly the sort of tone employed relentlessly by most liberal MSM to imply colustion, apparently that's how it is now, so as I have said twice already, what factual information is incorrect, please specify?

    • Sam 12.1

      Y'know I find people who pride themselves on facts and figures and writes very accurate Facebook posts and so on to be ultra ironic. Only for no one to click like on it. The more desperate for likes the greater the use of click bait titles and edgy descriptions. So go back to the beginning, accurate about what? Being accurate about being liked or correct is a failed business model. But what should we do? Should we correct them? Should we write equally accurate posts about there failed business models, why? No, I think eventually failed business models just run out of puff anyway if we like them or not.

      • Adrian Thornton 12.1.1

        I wouldn't know, I am not on face book.

        • Sam 12.1.1.1

          I was just trying to be unironic so I could leave the door open to the fact that we are not stupid every secound of the day. Perhaps we are at our most intelligent directly before the 6 o'clock new comes on and then we watch Fox News then oops we are stupid again. Perhaps. 

          Social media on the other hand I find most annoying when morbidly obese people or even just people who are a little overweight say look at me because I'm body neutral. It's sickening watching people eat themselves to death and have them try and skull fuck people into giving them likes, clout and monetization.     

          Y’know people who do the least amount of work I think are good examples of people who shouldn’t be on social media. Inevitably they run out of puff anyway.

  13. Poission 13

    firstly the US senate (republican initiative) is examining the use of algorithm its uses,transperancy and what policy may be enacted through its sub committee process.

    https://www.commerce.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/hearings?ID=E4F108BD-47FA-4857-B8F4-4AE745C7A119

    There is a remarkable excellent response and analysis from Stephen Wolfram with a scaffold (framework) for policy outcomes,as opposed to eating Brioche at the Elysee palace.

    https://blog.stephenwolfram.com/2019/06/testifying-at-the-senate-about-a-i-selected-content-on-the-internet/

    With regard to who Trump invited to the social media event at the WH ,I suspect it would be good politics to unfriend them (in social media speak) due to the forthcoming (this month)Netflix documentary which will be bigger then Ben Hur (the original).

  14. Anne 14

    Talking of Donald Trump, I've just seen the fellow's latest performance on Newshub. He's changed his tune about the now former British Ambassador to the US (Darrock). He now "wishes him well” because:

    "he's learn't that what he said wasn't about him, it was about other people." 😯

  15. joe90 15

    tRump word salad.

     
    On What’s Happening

    But I’ll tell you, a lot of bad things are happening. I have people come up to me: “Sir, we want to follow you. They don’t let us on.”

    And it was so different than it was even six, seven months ago. I was picking up unbelievable amounts of people. And I’m hotter now than I was then, OK? Because you know, you also cool off, right? You do. But I’m much hotter. Especially with a nice, new stock market like it is. Right?

    But no. I’m hotter now, and I go to Dan, I say, “Hey, what’s going on here?” It used to take me a short number of days to pick up 100,000 people. I’m not complaining; we’re like at 60-some-odd million. But then we have five different sites. We have another site with 25 million. We have another site with 10 or 12. Then we have Facebook. Then we have Instagram. We have a lot!

    We got a lot of people. Way, way over 100 million, but I used to pick them up… And when I say “used to,” I’m talking about a few months ago. I was picking them up, a hundred thousand people every, very short period of time. Now, it’s, I would say, ten times as long. And I notice things happening when I put out something—a good one, that people like, right? Good tweet. It goes up. It used to go up, it would say 7,000, 7,008, 7,000, 7,017, 7,024, 7,032, 7,044. Right?

    Now it goes, 7,000, 7,008, 6,998. Then they go, 7,009, 6,074. [Audience boos] I said, “What’s going on?” Now, it never did that before. It goes up, and then they take it down. Then it goes up. I’d never had that. Does anyone know what I’m talking about with this? [Audience screams “yes”] I never had that before. I used to watch it. It’d be like a rocket ship when I put out a beauty. Like when I said, remember I said somebody was spying on me? That thing was like a rocket. I get a call two minutes later: “Did you say that?”

    I said, “Yeah, I said that.”

    “Well, it’s exploding. It’s exploding.”

    I turned out to be right. I turned out to be right. We turned out to be right about a lot of things. But I never had it.

    https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/07/trump-social-media-summit.html

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    Farmers have been whining a lot lately, about the methane targets in the Zero Carbon Bill, about Canterbury's proposed nitrogen limits, and about the government's new proposals to stop them from shitting in our lakes and rivers. These policies are "throwing farmers under the tractor", they will force farmers off ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago
  • Behind Every Good Woman Should Stand – Another Good Woman.
    Alone, Alone, All, All, Alone: To argue that the Prime Minister is the victim of her advisers’ failure to keep her informed may offer Jacinda some measure of exoneration – but only at the cost of casting her as a hopeless political ingénue. A star-dusted muppet, whose only purpose is to ...
    3 days ago
  • Poor quality, poorly educated kiddie ‘Journalists’ spreading fake news
    In times of hysteria about the “World coming to an end” and “rising sea levels” so-called ‘Journalists’ who can barely spell words longer than four letters are having a ball! Though the majority of the Public have worked out that manmade climate change is nothing short of pseudo-science, and the ...
    An average kiwiBy admin@averagekiwi.com
    3 days ago
  • Chris Trotter on the BFD
    I don't want to give pblicity to certain parts of the internet that are better left to fester in their own irrelevance (I know, a bit like this place) but the listing of Chris Trotter as a 'author' on Cameron Slater's spinoff website, the BFD requires some explanation.Now, I don't ...
    3 days ago
  • Sex is not a spectrum
    The text below is a Twitter thread by Heather Heying that explains the essence of sexual reproduction and it long evolutionary history. She is an evolutionary biologist and a “professor-in-exile” after she and her husband, Bret Weinstein, stood up to supporters of an enforced “Day of Absence” for white staff and teachers ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    3 days ago
  • Climate Change: Trees, aviation, and offsets
    With crunch time for new Zealand climate policy approaching, most of the New Zealand media have got on board with a global reporting effort to cover the issue. There's one strand of stories today about polling and what it shows about changing public attitudes to the crisis, but the strand ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago
  • Pissing-Off The Israelis Is A High-Risk Strategy.
    Dangerous Foes: For those readers of Bowalley Road who feel disposed to dismiss any prospect of an Israeli destabilisation of New Zealand politics, the example of the United Kingdom repays close attention. Ever since the election of Jeremy Corbyn as leader of the British Labour Party, the Israelis have sanctioned, funded and ...
    3 days ago
  • Something to go to in Wellington
    Make It 16, the youth-led campaign to lower New Zealand's voting age, is holding an official campaign launch at Parliament this Friday from 16:30. If you'd like to attend, you can register using EventBrite here. ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago
  • A founding member responds to Peace Action Wellington
    by Don Franks It was a lovely sunny Wellington afternoon with blue skies above  the beaches.  In Courtenay Place, political activists packed out a stuffy upstairs room for an important meeting. The assembled pacifists, anarchists, communists and independent young radicals of Peace Action Wellington felt the need for a mission ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    3 days ago
  • “Mistakes and errors”
    Current and former NZDF top brass are being publicly grilled this week by the hit and run inquiry over their public responses to allegations of civilian casualties. Previously, they've claimed there were no casualties, a position which led them to lie to Ministers and to the public. Now, they're saying ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago
  • “Homosexuality is same-sex attraction and relationships, not heterosexuals with delusions of gende...
    by Rafael D. Quiles (gender-critical gay man from Puerto Rico) The writing on the wall is right in people’s faces and people just don’t see it or don’t want to. What could actually possess a heterosexual male to want to feminize himself and claim that he is a lesbian? Because ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    4 days ago
  • Trump: “Where’s my favourite dictator?”
    From the Wall Street Journal:Inside a room of the ornately decorated Hotel du Palais during last month’s Group of Seven summit in Biarritz, France, President Trump awaited a meeting with Egyptian President Abdel Fattah Al Sisi. Mr. Trump looked over a gathering of American and Egyptian officials and called out in ...
    4 days ago
  • Magdalen Burns, 1983-2019, fighter for women’s liberation
    by the Redline blog collective At Redline we are very saddened to hear of the death of Magdalen Burns who passed away on the morning of Friday, September 13 (British time). Magdalen was a great fighter for the rights of women in general and lesbian women in particular, a defender ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    5 days ago
  • Parliament and the Executive
    The Brexit issue has certainly brought with it a series of apparently difficult constitutional issues, many of them concerning the respective roles of the executive and parliament. Most of them arise because of the unwillingness of MPs, despite their professions to the contrary, to be bound by a constitutional rarity ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    6 days ago
  • The Abigail Article; Martyn Bradbury’s Article, and My Response
    . . This blogpost is different to my usual format of reporting on issues… Since July 1011, I have blogged on a variety of political issues; near always political and/or environmental; mostly highly critical of the previous National Government. Other issues included Israeli occupation of Palestinian lands and repression of ...
    Frankly SpeakingBy Frank Macskasy
    6 days ago
  • Police will have to wear silly Buckingham Palace hats from now on, says Police Minister
    Those close to the Police Minister believe the initiative may be the result of Nash “seeing a great deal” on AliExpress. In a move that comes seemingly out of nowhere, Police Minister Stuart Nash announced this afternoon that he expects all frontline staff to don bearskin hats, famously worn by ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    6 days ago
  • A sensible crackdown
    The government has released its Arms Legislation Bill, containing the second tranche of changes to gun laws following the March 15 massacre. And it all looks quite sensible: a national gun register, higher penalties for illegal possession and dealing, tighter restrictions on arms dealers and shooting clubs, and a shorter ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • California bans private prisons
    Private prisons are a stain on humanity. Prison operators explicitly profit from human misery, then lobby for longer prisons terms so they can keep on profiting. And in the US, prison companies run not only local and state prisons, but also Donald Trump's immigration concentration camps. Faced with this moral ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • Why PPPs are a bad idea
    When National was in power, they were very keen on Public-Private Partnerships (PPPs) - basicly, using private companies to finance public infrastructure as a way of hiding debt from the public. They were keen on using them for everything - roads, schools, hospitals. But as the UK shows, that "service" ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • A Movement That No Longer Moves.
    Moving And Shaking: There was a time when people spoke matter-of-factly about the “labour movement” – a political phenomenon understood to embrace much more than the Labour Party. Included within the term’s definition was the whole trade union movement – many of whose members looked upon the Labour Party as ...
    7 days ago
  • NZ ‘left’ politically embracing extreme postmodernism
    by Philip Ferguson Much of the left, even people who formally identify as marxists, have collapsed politically in the face of postmodern gender theory of the sort pioneered by American philosopher Judith Butler. For Butler even biological sex is socially constructed. “If the immutable character of sex is contested, perhaps ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • The obvious question
    The media is reporting that the (alleged) Labour party sexual assaulter has resigned from their job at Parliament, which means hopefully he won't be turning up there making people feel unsafe in future. Good. But as with everything about this scandal, it just raises other questions. Most significantly: why the ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • The moment I found out that you found out, I acted swiftly
    By Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern I am every bit as angry as you are. I am every bit as disappointed as you must be. The people with power, oversight and the ability to do something about these processes within the Labour Party should be ashamed. Whoever those people are, I ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • This is why people hate property developers
    Property developers think there is an "oversupply" of houses in Auckland:High turnover rates and falling prices may be a sign that there are too many new houses going in to some parts of Auckland, commentators say. [...] Property developer David Whitburn said there was a "bit of an oversupply" in ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Australia to Pacific: “Fuck you, you can all drown”
    World leaders are meeting in New York in two weeks for the 2019 Climate Action Summit, where they are expected to announce new and more ambitious targets to stop the world from burning. But the Australian Prime Minister won't be there, despite being in the USA at the time:Scott Morrison ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Implausible ignorance
    Labour Party president Nigel Haworth resigned yesterday over the party's sexual assault scandal. But while that's good news, its unlikely to take away the stench of a coverup. Because according to Paula Bennett in Parliament yesterday, pretty much everyone in the Prime Minister's office was involved as well:I have been ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Labour’s Fatal Flaw.
     Two-Faced? Labour insiders' commitment to the neoliberal status quo puts them at odds with their party’s membership; its trade union affiliates; and a majority of Labour voters, but this only serves to strengthen the perception they have of themselves as a special elite. Among the lesser breeds, they’ll talk up a ...
    1 week ago
  • Ten reasons the Tories do NOT want an election
    There has been a lot of talk about Boris Johnson wanting an election, and he has blustered with great gusto about 'chicken' Jeremy Corbyn refusing one, but I think there are many reasons why he is secretly glad he has been refused the opportunity:The Tories are an utter rabble,tearing themselves ...
    1 week ago
  • Prorogation Illegal, rule Scottish judges
    Scottish appeal court judges have declared that Boris Johnson’s decision to suspend parliament in the run-up to the October Brexit deadline is unlawful. The three judges, chaired by Lord Carloway, Scotland’s most senior judge, overturned an earlier ruling that the courts did not have the powers to interfere in the prime ...
    1 week ago
  • Let me explain what I meant by Everyday New Zealanders
    By Simon Bridges. The following is a press release from the office of Simon Bridges, leader of The National Party. Key ora, New Zealand. Happy Maori Language Week. Look, I’m writing to you today because I want to clear something up. There’s been a lot of kerfuffle around some things ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • Yes, the SIS is subject to the Public Records Act
    I understand there's some stuff going round about how the SIS "was removed from the list of public offices covered by the Public Records Act in 2017". The context of course being their records derived from US torture, which will be disposed of or sealed. The good news is that ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • An evidence-based discussion of the Canadian fluoride/IQ study
    Dr. Christopher Labos and Jonathan Jarry discuss the recent Canadian fluoride/IQ research. They provide an expert analysis of the paper and its problems. Click on image to go to podcast. The critical debate about the recent ...
    1 week ago
  • Climate Change: Australia in denial
    Australia is burning down again, and meanwhile its natural disaster minister is denying climate change:Australia’s minister responsible for drought and natural disasters, David Littleproud, has said that he doesn’t “know if climate change is manmade”. Clarifying earlier comments that the question is “irrelevant” when considering the Coalition government’s response to ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Philippines activist speaking on the Duterte tyranny
    Auckland Philippines Solidarity is excited to host Professor Judy Taguiwalo for a speaking tour of NZ in September. She is a well-known activist in the Philippines and was a political prisoner under the Marcos dictatorship. Professor Taguiwalo briefly served as a Cabinet member under President Duterte but was forced from ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • Disgust
    I have no special insights to offer on the Labour sexual assault coverup. All I have is disgust. Disgust that an organisation could fail its people so badly. Disgust that they punished the victims rather than the perpetrator. Disgust that its party hacks are apparently blaming the victims for demanding ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Speak Up for Women calls out Greens’ censorship
    This open letter to the Green Party was penned after an opinion piece by Jill Abigail, a feminist and founding member of the party, was censored by the Greens’ leadership. (Redline has reprinted her article here).The intolerance of the Green Party leaders and their acceptance of the misogyny of gender ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • Member’s Day: End of Life Choice, part 3
    Today is a Member's day, and David Seymour's End of Life Choice Bill continues its slow crawl through its committee stage. They're spending the whole day on it today, though the first hour is likely to be spent on voting left over from last time. After that they'll move on ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Flight to Los Angeles turned back after passengers decide they don’t want to go anymore
    An ambitious plan to fly to Los Angeles petered out into a brief sight-seeing trip and a desire to return home and get some sleep before work tomorrow. Air New Zealand has confirmed a flight to Los Angeles last night was turned back about a quarter of the way into ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • Indigenous Futures: defuturing and futuring – an analytical framework for policy development?
    There appears to be consensus – by omission – that the concept of indigenous futures should be accepted at face value. So I scavenged the internet to see if I could locate an academic descriptor or a framework around how we think about it as a concept, and whether it ...
    EllipsisterBy Ellipsister
    1 week ago
  • Cadbury rumoured to be releasing the Pineapple Trump
    Here’s another novelty chocolate to shove in your gob, New Zealand Cadbury could be seeking to make itself great again with a rumoured new release: Pineapple Trumps, a spin on its classic chocolate-encased pineapple treat and do-it-yourself tooth remover. The global confectionery manufacturer and bumbling “before” character in an infomercial, ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • The coming resource war.
    During my time in the Pentagon I had the privilege of sitting down with military leaders and defence and security officials from a variety of Latin American nations. Sometimes I was present as a subordinate assistant to a senior US defence department official, sometimes as part of a delegation that ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    1 week ago
  • Māori Language Week with The Civilian
    Kia ora, Aotearoa. It’s that magical time of year. Te Wiki o te Reo Māori. In English, the week that frightens talk radio. As you probably know by now, all your favourite media outlets are participating, some more successfully than others. Stuff has changed its name to Puna for the ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • Will Horizons act on climate change?
    Local body elections are coming up next month. And it looks like all Palmerston North candidates for Horizons (the Manawatu-Whanganui Regional Council) want to take action on climate change:Climate change is set to be a key issue in Palmerston North for the next three years if those wanting to get ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • BORA reform is stalled
    Eighteen months ago, the government promised to strengthen the Bill of Rights Act, by explicitly affirming the power of the courts to issue declarations of inconsistency and requiring Parliament to formally respond to them. So how's that going? I was curious, so I asked for all advice about the proposal. ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Corbyn and Brexit
    As the Brexit saga staggers on, the focus is naturally enough on the Prime Minister and his attempts to achieve Brexit “do or die”. But the role played by the Leader of the Opposition is of almost equal interest and complexity. The first problem for Jeremy Corbyn is that he ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    1 week ago
  • A ditch for him to die in
    Last week, English Prime Minister Boris Johnson boldly declared that he would rather die be dead in a ditch than delay Brexit. Unfortunately for him, the UK parliament accepted the challenge, and promptly dug one for him. The "rebellion bill" requires him to ask for and secure yet another temporary ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Warning! Warning! Danger Jacinda Ardern! Danger Marama Davidson! Warning!
    Lost In Political Space: The most important takeaway from this latest Labour sexual assault scandal, which (if I may paraphrase Nixon’s White House counsel’s, John Dean’s, infamous description of Watergate) is “growing like a cancer” on the premiership, is the Labour Party organisation’s extraordinary professional paralysis in the face of ...
    1 week ago
  • Union solidarity with Ihumatao land occupation
    by Daphna Whitmore Every Sunday for the past two months unionists from First Union, with supporters from other unions, have set out to the Ihumatao land protest, put up gazebos and gas barbeques, and cooked food for a few hundred locals and supporters who have come from across the country. ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • Climate Change: The wrong kind of trees?
    Newsroom today has an excellent, in-depth article on pine trees as carbon sinks. The TL;DR is that pine is really good at soaking up carbon, but people prefer far-less efficient native forests instead. Which is understandable, but there's two problems: firstly, we've pissed about so long on this problem that ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • No freedom of speech in Turkey
    Canan Kaftancioglu is a Turkish politician and member of the opposition Republican People's Party (CHP). Like most modern politicians, she tweets, and uses the platform to criticise the Turkish government. She has criticised them over the death of a 14-year-old boy who was hit by a tear gas grenade during ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Speaker: Tadhg Stopford: Why I’m standing for the ADHB
    Hi there, just call me Tim.We face tough problems, and I’d like to help, because there are solutions.An Auckand District Health Board member has nominated me for as a candidate for the ADHB, because her MS-related pain and fatigue is reduced with hemp products from Rotorua.  Nothing else helped her. If I ...
    1 week ago
  • Good little vassals
    The Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security has published their report on whether the SIS and GCSB had any complicity in American torture. And its damning. The pull quote is this:The Inquiry found both agencies, but to a much greater degree, the NZSIS, received many intelligence reports obtained from detainees who, ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Who Shall We Turn To When God, And Uncle Sam, Cease To Defend New Zealand?
    Bewhiskered Cassandra? Professor Hugh White’s chilling suggestion, advanced to select collections of academic, military and diplomatic Kiwi experts over the course of the past week, is that the assumptions upon which Australia and New Zealand have built their foreign affairs and defence policies for practically their entire histories – are ...
    2 weeks ago
  • The Politics of Opposition
    For most of the time I was a British MP, my party was out of government – these were the Thatcher years, when it was hard for anyone else to get a look-in. As a front-bencher and shadow minister, I became familiar with the strategies required in a parliamentary democracy ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    2 weeks ago
  • More expert comments on the Canadian fluoride-IQ paper
    The Green et al (2019) fluoride/IQ is certainly controversial – as would be expected from its subject (see If at first you don’t succeed . . . statistical manipulation might help and Politics of science – making a silk purse out of a sow’s ear). Anti-fluoride campaigners have been actively promoting it ...
    2 weeks ago
  • The return to guerrilla war in Colombia
    by Gearóid Ó Loingsigh On August 29th a video in which veteran FARC (Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia) commander Iván Márquez announced that they had taken up arms again was released. There was no delay in the reaction to it, from longtime Liberal Party figure and former president Uribe, for ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    2 weeks ago

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