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6:05 am, November 6th, 2020 - 38 comments
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CNN presidential results live page
David Slack’s You wonder what Joe Biden may be able to do about it
But thank you Jesus no. Maybe it’s the lateness of the hour, maybe the Covid he doesn’t have is bearing down on him, but he hands it over to loyal Mike Pence and ABC breaks away.
And now it would appear they have had a prepared conversation all ready to go for just such an occasion: the President of the United States alleging electoral fraud.
They set out chapter and verse forcefully and compellingly: why the counting of votes is lawful; the absolute right of the people to have their say.
The denunciation is strong and it feels like a line is being clearly marked and every Republican who joins the conversation in the hours to follow reinforces the message: we tolerate a whole lot of his shit, but we’re not letting this stand. Haven’t seen anyone ask Mitch McConnell though.
Get a load of the guy. You’re going to the Supreme court? On what grounds? You know it’s not like hitting speed dial for one of your crooked layers, right?
Someone tweets: A lawsuit without provable facts showing a statutory or constitutional violation is just a tweet with a filing fee.
The current rise of populism challenges the way we think about people’s relationship to the economy.We seem to be entering an era of populism, in which leadership in a democracy is based on preferences of the population which do not seem entirely rational nor serving their longer interests. ...
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Link to interesting Finton O'Toole (journalist) article
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/us/fintan-o-toole-at-2-23am-the-us-president-launched-an-attempted-coup-1.4400134
The US needs an intervention. First thing I'd do is standardise and simplify voting across all states so they are all doing the same thing.
Have three votes if they must, President, Senate and House but no more.
Make the president a figure head only . Its fucking insane giving one person so much power . Get rid of the electoral collage . Go mmp .
Bust the toxic duopoly of dems repubs.
Biden has the popular vote by approx 5 million. If he is not the next president then the Trump vote has been subsidised as being somehow more important.
I thought it would have been called overnight that Biden has reached 270 electoral college votes.
The NZ special votes are being released at 2pm today.
Nevada is a certainty for Biden, but cannot be called without backing down from the early call to award Arizona to Biden (not a certainty).
It's possible a Biden win in Georgia (toss up) will decide it before Arizona. The OK news for Democrats is that it looks like both Senate races will be going back for a runoff (still expected to lose).
So the US election result comes down to counting the legal votes. Determining what the legal votes are is creating a problem. Late votes, when counting stops, recounting. Different rules for different states.
Why is Nevada taking so long to count, cf to say big states like New York, California?
Nevada is actually closer to finishing the count than NY or CA. But in all the trillions of parallel universes, there is not a single one where the margin is close in either one. Whereas Nevada is a deciding state and it is close, so the count has to be complete before making a call.
Aha Thanks – got it.
A bit of fun while we wait
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/juliareinstein/funny-election-tweets-memes
Best tweet because I suspect it is true. 😮
They call themselves a superpower and they can't even sort an efficient vote-counting system.
I am reminded of the Brits who made the ironic comedy recording How to win an election (or not lose by much).
There's a great skit where a chap is counting the votes one by one –
And there was another on housing. A clever architect had found a way to infill with very-small-housing, build in the spaces between walls or subdivide garages – smart thinking, you wake up in the morning, roll over and are in the car ready to go to work. You sleep in your work suit and hey presto away good and early. Such convenience! etc – (that isn't word for word).
Silly blokes! It was a great bit of political satire from 1964 and been reissued. I would like it to go up on youtube with just the audio and an image of Sellers, Secombe and Milligan to remember them by.
Leslie Bricusse was one of the writers and a producer
David Platz was another producer
A link with the skits titles
. https://www.discogs.com/Harry-Secombe-Peter-Sellers-and-Spike-Milligan-How-To-Win-An-Election-Or-Not-Lose-By-Much/release/607028
On eBay https://www.ebay.co.uk/i/401394268141?chn=ps
(And an aside. Came across this on google – could be handy for aspiring, perspiring politicians. See keywords : how to win an election with no money)
So the person in each state who counts the votes for president are they impartial?
It might help if one from each side (Dems Repub) counts. Then again they might argue and hold up the counting.
yes indeed, some superpower. Not that I am a fan of China's ways, but they managed to test something like 7 million people in 10 days for Covid (or so they say)
Do you seriously believe anything the Chinese government says?
let's just remember that the virus got a foothold because of the liesiof the very same Chinese government.
Whatever faults of the US, it is far better as a superpower than the Chinese Empire would ever be. Xi and the CCP are fast becoming Hitler and the Nazis reborn.
Do you seriously believe anything the Chinese government says?
let's just remember that the virus got a foothold because of the lies of the very same Chinese government.
Whatever faults of the US, it is far better as a superpower than the Chinese Empire would ever be. Xi and the CCP are fast becoming Hitler and the Nazis reborn.
Hu to believe? At least, according to you, the CCP won't keep us waiting long
A Kenyan journolist has been tweeting the US election in the way western media commentates on African elections.
starts off:
And the thread goes on from there…
https://twitter.com/gathara/status/1322999903753220099
I've counted a few votes. It must be hard doing it with a big squad all wearing the same colours yelling "STOP COUNTING!"
And their mates yelling "KEEP COUNTING!"
And their idol's son yelling "IT'S ALL FAKE!"
And their idol's little sober lawyer standing with them tucking his shirt in.
Forgive me if this is a stupid question.
But why are these states taking so long to count, when their voter turn out is on the lower end of the spectrum compared to other States?
Different rules about whether:
Also a factor is not the size of the state but the size of the voting catchment. Large cities are a factor than a state with lots of smaller locations..
Further delay are being caused due to Trump's legal action e.g. some now have to separate out votes received after election day.
Constitutionally the individual states (local government) set their own voting rules to reduce the ability of the state (central government) to manipulate the rules to suit themselves.
Also, delaying the count gives DT more time to 'prove' that it's fraudulent. So any mayor or governor sympathetic to him can clutch at that straw. (They wouldn't have to deliberately obstruct counting, just under-resource it.)
Yes it's corrupt, but they're quite open about that now.
Yes it's corrupt but they're quite honest about that now. Hah. FIFY
Mail in votes take much longer to count because each vote has to have the signature and barcode cross checked manually.This election electronic voting has been stopped and a paper trail vote reinstated.
A bunch of votes were filmed being burnt. This was published by Republican people. Aha! Evidence of voter fraud?
But no. The glimpse of the ballots before they burnt showed that they were Sample Ballots sent out to help voters vote. What naughty little desperate Republicans you are.
If that's desperate from roused up, stirred up angry folks what is it when the son of the President is using the false stuff as bait and incitement?
Pennsylvania should seal the deal today for Biden (if the count comes in today as predicted).
what makes you think Biden will overtake Trump?
They're all mail in votes that disproportionately favor Biden left to be counted. And the bulk from areas that favor Biden.
Trump’s lead is disintegrating.
I think it was Biden's camp claiming 75% off those were coming in Dem votes.
Trump's 380K lead has been whittled down to 80K in the last day.
Looking very close now.
The Man is on TV! His cognitive genius' cogs are at work … 'miraculously' numbers changed, totals went up …
Ummmmmmm, its called COUNTING THE VOTES! You sort of have to laugh. It should simply be pathetic but this is in a different realm.
That was the most ridiculous concession speech I've ever heard.
He's fomenting violent civil unrest telling by millions of Americans that their vote is being stolen from them. Dangerous times ahead, 'Murica.
I'm watching a rambling shambles on CNN from an ill man who needs someone to step in and tell him it's over and lead him away. Much as I loathe him it's pathetic and very sad.
Record Covid infections in the US and all Trump is interested in is creating civil unrest, no regard for others. The sooner Trump goes the sooner America can tackle the big issues, unity, Covid, the economy, climate change, unemployment, health care, housing, violence.