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When Earth’s future is under attack …

Written By: - Date published: 9:25 am, June 3rd, 2017 - 36 comments
Categories: climate change, Donald Trump, Environment, global warming, us politics - Tags:

So Donald Trump has decided that preserving the world’s environment is not in America’s best interests.

Apparently there are some coal mining jobs to save. The fact that the US of A is doing a sterling job in developing high tech jobs in the renewable energy sector and that there is a lot of potential growth in the sector is irrelevant. The US of A needs to have coal mining jobs. Nothing else matters.

Trump is becoming a caricature of all that is wrong with right wing politics. And the Simpsons predicted this 17 years ago …


And Rage Against the Machine also predicted this 17 years ago …

In a very unfortunate coincidence US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson is visiting New Zealand on Tuesday of next week. Tillerson has the unfortunate characteristic that he is a former oil baron and was awarded the Russian Order of Friendship in 2013 by President Vladimir Putin for work he performed on completing a deal to explore the Arctic Ocean for oil.

Audrey Young has attempted to paint him as a Paris Accord moderate. But his position in the oil industry and in Donald Trump’s cabinet mean that he is going to attract attention.

350 Aotearoa is going to hold a reception for him, and not the usual sort.

From their Facebook event:

On Tuesday, the US Secretary of State, Rex Tillerson is landing in Wellington to meet with our Government.

Sign up here for updates – http://bit.ly/2rrNrB4

We need to provide the opposite of the warm welcome Wellington normally gives: we need to let Tillerson and The Trump administration know they are not welcome, and call on our government to distance ourselves from climate denial and warmongering.

This visit comes at a time when Donald Trump has announced that he will pull the United States out of the Paris Climate Agreement. 2016 was the hottest year ever, and a huge wakeup call. But 2017 is a fire alarm. Trump pulling out of the Paris Agreement is a crime against our global future. Now is the time for New Zealand to step up and show leadership on climate change by strengthening our own commitment to the Paris Agreement, not engaging with those who threaten the future of our planet.

Hundreds of us will join together to protest outside Parliament on Tuesday. Click attending for alerts about the action here – and start making your placards.

We don’t know yet what time Tillerson is to be arriving in Wellington, and even on the day it could well change. If you have any tips, let us know!

Some people have suggested that Trump pulling America out of the Paris Accord may not be such a bad thing.  It may actually spur worldwide action into dealing with this most difficult of problems.  I hope they are right.  But Trump could do a lot of damage.  It will be a case of how backward America goes compares to how much more action the rest of the world takes.

In the meantime when Earth’s future is under attack …

36 comments on “When Earth’s future is under attack … ”

  1. 808state 1

    “Trump is becoming a caricature of all that is wrong with right wing politics.”

    No, he is a symbol of all that is wrong with Globalist politics, an “every reaction has an opposite and equal reaction” kind of phenomena.

  2. saveNZ 2

    In the meantime when Earth’s future is under attack… the National Party has prepared the welcome mat for NZ to be a foot soldier in the assult.

  3. I wish I was in this protest – I hope the message gets through loud and clear and tillerson that oil and vlad loving most senior trumpee decide never to come back here.

    • Anne 3.1

      I wish I was in this protest.
      Me too. I would come out of a lengthy protest retirement to be present at this one but I don’t live in Wellington. I hope many thousands turn out because this is a once in a life-time opportunity for NZers to gain international recognition for their strong stance on the environment and Climate Change in particular.

      We led the world in the 1980s with out anti-nuclear stance. We can do it again.

  4. BM 4

    The problem is Christianity and low information voters, facts are the vast majority of Americans just don’t know or care about anything that goes on outside their state.

    I’d bet money 95% of Americans haven’t even heard of the Paris accord.

    • weka 4.1

      “The problem is Christianity and low information voters”

      That doesn’t explain your resistance to change though BM.

    • RedLogix 4.2

      Yes … while the huge majority of Americans I’ve worked with over the years are usually warm, generous and friendly people, with rare exceptions they do tend to be very possessed by the “America the Great” myth and quite incurious of anything outside of the USA.

      • 808state 4.2.1

        I agree, I find Americans I have worked and socialised with easy going and open – they take a cut and thrust approach to every issue which works most of the time. They are conscious of anti-American sentiment, and can become cagey if they suspect you of it.

      • BM 4.2.2

        My partner works for an outfit that has staff regularly travelling to America on business

        With all the stuff going on in with Trump and what we read in our media, you’d think America was on the cusp of a major civil breakdown.

        The reality is slightly different though, not a sound, no discussion or interest, politics is never mentioned, when one of the guys did actually raise the topic of Trump most thought he seemed to be doing a good job.

        Sport, family, church, love for the USA if it’s not one of those topics you’re wasting your time.

      • UncookedSelachimorpha 4.2.3

        And the Americans us NZers are likely to encounter are the ones who get out of the states (or at least mix with foreigners) more than 99% of the US population.

  5. Ad 5

    Even Tillerson’s old employer – the world’s largest publicly traded oil behemoth and a company that potentially has much to gain from relaxed environmental standards – doesn’t appear to be on board with the Paris pullout. The majority of Exxon shareholders voted Wednesday in support of a new transparency standard that would require the company to disclose how climate change affects its business operations.

    The resolution reportedly drew support from shareholders of all sizes, including big-name investors like BlackRock and Vanguard. It passed with more than 62 percent of shareholders in favor of the increased disclosure requirements – which mirror certain details in the Paris accord related to restrictions on global temperature increases.

    Just a year ago, only 38 percent of shareholders voted in support of the resolution.

    With Royal Dutch Shell, BP, Duke, Dominion and other major oil producers all willing to support the Paris Climate Change agreement, one has to wonder what’s in it for them?

    The optimist in me says that the oil producers will continue to read the global floor in oil prices as the biggest possible long term market signal to change from petroleum production to renewable energy production.

    The pessimist in me says these companies-larger-than-most-countries would rather support a non-binding agreement than something harder to deal with like a really high globally traded carbon market.

    I resolutely prefer at this moment to be optimistic.

    • Bill 5.1

      if they’d called for transparency on how their business affects/causes/drives global warming and climate change, then I’d have seen a point to it. But to call for transparency on how they are biting their own arse… Paris = 3.5 degrees C or some such with the US on board and all pledges met btw.

      There is no “long term if we’re talking about AGW, therefore any talk of a “long term market signal” is bunk, as is any talk of shifting from petroleum production to renewable energy production. We can’t build our way out of this Ad.

      I do agree with your optimism though.

      Read the banner in the picture that accompanies the post. And reflect that a few short year ago, that sentiment would have been seen as lunatic and nutty. Now it’s not only thinkable, but it can be expressed openly.

      • weka 5.1.1

        Have to say the response from various parts of humanity and power structures in the past couple of days has bumped my hope up a notch. Best we take advantage of the opportunity.

      • To have 30 states disagree with Trump is quite something. See B1 of today’s “The Press”.

  6. Draco T Bastard 6


  7. Draco T Bastard 7

    Some people have suggested that Trump pulling America out of the Paris Accord may not be such a bad thing. It may actually spur worldwide action into dealing with this most difficult of problems. I hope they are right. But Trump could do a lot of damage. It will be a case of how backward America goes compares to how much more action the rest of the world takes.

    No, it won’t be a case of how far backward the USA goes – it will be about how well the rest of the world reacts to the USA’s attack on it. The only viable option they have is to cut off the USA but will they do it or will they keep up the failed super-hero worship that they’ve built up for the USA over the last few decades?

  8. https://willnewzealandberight.com/2017/06/02/climate-change-gases-also-attacking-the-oceans/

    The gases linked to climate change are also linked to acidification of the oceans and worsening bleaching of coral reefs. Are we go in to address that as well?

    • 808state 8.1

      Yeah, there was a nzherald article a few days ago saying it was basically over for the Great Barrier Reef, 90%+ of it already showing heat stress symptoms – “bleaching”. Only thing to do is manage it and hope pockets survive. Depressing.

  9. 808state 9

    All the Hollywood types and other rich Yanks denouncing Trumps decision while cavorting around the world on private jets are getting on my nerves.

    • One Anonymous Bloke 9.1

      It’s a tempting thought process: right wingers employ it all the time.

      “How environmentally friendly is your computer?” they’ll ask accusingly of anyone who points out some sensible changes we could make to our energy consumption habits.

      Worth recognising and avoiding, if you want to “change more than your clothes”, that is.

      • Bill 9.1.1

        There’s a world of difference (literally) between owning a computer that uses electricity and has its own carbon footprint embedded, and having a carbon footprint that’s 7000 or 9000 times that of the world’s poorer people.

        And top Holywood actors (eg – DiCaprio) have that kind of footprint – as do many, many “rich Yanks” with their private jets, yachts and endless globe trotting for some ‘important’ business or other.

        • One Anonymous Bloke

          Nonetheless, US carbon emissions have declined to 1991 levels, which is far better than we’ve managed.

          Like religion, carbon footprint is pretty much an accident of birth. I don’t think blame is useful.

          • Bill

            That’s an utterly pointless stat, as I’d have thought you’d be aware of. The US and others have ‘off-shored’ their emissions by moving production to China or wherever.

            A large carbon footprint is not an accident of birth beyond what we might call ‘the background carbon’ of the society that’s born into. Large carbon footprints track large incomes and the lifestyles that go with with those large incomes.

            Did you not bother to read any of the posts containing the info about end-user emissions that point to a 10/40/50 breakdown of carbon emissions? Maybe you should.

            Then come back and argue about how it’s all an ‘accident of birth’ and how everyone’s blameless.

            • One Anonymous Bloke

              As I’ve consistently argued, wealth is delivered by good fortune, as poverty is by bad luck. Yes, the lifestyle predicts the footprint, and both are accidents of birth.

              I didn’t say everyone is blameless, I said that blame is useless. If this plain English is still unclear please ask questions rather than making hostile assumptions.

              The 10/40/50 breakdown illustrates the facts; if you want to use it as a tool for blame go ahead, I won’t stop you. All that blame will still be useless though.

              • Bill

                Do you do chicken gut readings of this world determined by “luck” and “fortune”?

                Wealth and poverty are both systemic outcomes. Luck and fortune only play the minor role of possibly dropping you into a family in a culture that has inheritable inter-generational wealth…which – systemic outcomes give rise to in the first place.

                Note: the above assumes the ludicrous notion that a new born is a pre-determined and complete identity needing only food, shelter and water: that identity is not an ever changing and somewhat elusive effect of environment.

                • One Anonymous Bloke

                  an ever changing and somewhat elusive effect of environment.

                  Sure, so accidents of birth can be affected by accidents of environment, which affects the point not one bit.

                  If wealth and poverty and carbon footprints are systemic outcomes, and I think they are, what use is blame in changing that system?

                  • Bill

                    Well, you reject a system and sanction those who would otherwise use it to excuse their actions. Both these things happen in conjunction with one another.

                    It’s a matter of fact that rich fucks are killing off this biosphere. I don’t want them ‘blamed’, I want them stopped.

    • Ad 9.2

      Because you’re not entitled to have an opinion unless you live in a straw hut with black teeth wearing a sack and can recite the entire script to the Four Yorkshiremen sketch.

  10. timeforacupoftea 10

    I will bring my oil fogger, should be fun.

  11. Michael 11

    IIRC, the Washington Post reports that Tillerson (and Ivanka Trump) actually argued against pulling out of the Paris Treaty. Of course, in the case of the former, that may have been a tactical move, to save him from an even rougher time in Aotearora-NZ. However, it may also be the case that Tillerson is not a total, raw-meat chewing Neanderthal but actually has a degree of subtlety and nuance that distinguishes from his boss. It might be a good idea if we don’t treat Tillerson as Satan’s emissary next week.

  12. mosa 12

    Prediction number one -any protest against Tillerson won’t feature much in the 6pm propaganda bulletins.

    Prediction number two- Andrew Little won’t be in taking part in the protest march.

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